Sean Patrick Thomas talks Gen V, Barbershop, Save The Last Dance & more | S8 E9 | 1 on 1's w/Deuces - 1-on-1's w/Deuces

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Let me choose your character.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
All right, all right, all right, Welcome back to the
geek Set podcast only podcast that blending hip hop, coachre
and geek coaching together.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm your boy, Duces, and this is one on one
with Deuces, the.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Place where I speak with creators, curators and people that
you should know and listen here. Y'all already know how
much I love the boys in gen V universe. We
talk about it on the podcast all the time. I've
been champion it online. I've been able to I've been
blessed enough to be able to talk with mother's milk.
I talked to Sister Stage and now we have another
cultural icon to the black community. But also in gen

(01:05):
V we have the one and only Sean Patrick Thomas
aka Philarity.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Bro. How are you doing. I'm fantastic man.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
How you doing, brother man? I am doing great, Man,
I am doing great.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Like I said first and foremost before we start, my
platform is all about giving people their flowers while they're
here to smell it, right and Bro, your work as
a Black American, as somebody who's Guyanese as well. You know, yes,
within the culture, I mean you you were in one
of the dopest casts as in Barbershop. You are playing

(01:37):
a black hero in gen V. You know, you gave
us that hip hop blending mergin with Save the Last Dance.
You did important roles as like till you were in
reasonable doubt, And I just want to say, man, from
geek set, from the blurred community, from the Black community, Man,
thank you so much for all your work that you
are putting in in the game, because we truly truly

(01:59):
appreciate your act, skill set and just everything that you're
putting out into this world with entertainment.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, thank you so much. Brother, man, I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
You know, just give me all that love because you know,
this business is is very very uh, it's very tricky.
It's very uh, you know, there's a lot of there's
a lot of ups and downs. And I'm very grateful
that I'm still here and still able to do what
I do. So just to have you express all that
to me and let me know that you see me
and that you notice it and appreciate it from the

(02:28):
bible of my heart.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Man, just I really really really thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, you know, And it's funny because when you when
you get to that point when you finally tell your
story right, like, whether it's a biography or book or
whatever the case may be.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I feel like your through.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Line to your story is definitely Raising in the Sun
because it not only did you, you know, play it
in the you know, in the theater, and then you
was able to do it in film. But if you
think about the themes of Raising in the Sun, you
know about the American dream but in the face of
discrimination and everything, and knowing the history of entertainment in
and then you play in characters like a superhero, and

(03:03):
you know, it's not stereotypical.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
You're you're you're.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Really like kind of living that Raising in the the
Sun theme as your life as entertainment because you're overcoming
so much and entertainment and everything, and it's just really
dope how it parallels that.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, man, I mean, I guess it's an excellent point.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I mean, you know, it was even more ironic about
that is that the first play I ever did in
my life, when I was in college at the University
of Virginia was a Raisin in the Sun speaking role
I ever had in a play. So I really appreciate
that you brought that up, you know, I feel like
I'm so lucky. You know, like at every juncture in
my life where I could have you know, gone right

(03:42):
or left in terms of pursuing acting, uh, there was
there was somebody there who kind of guided me and
gave me that that support and gave me that confidence
that I could really do it.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
At the University of Virginia it was Ritrid Warner, who
was my great great mentor and teacher there. Uh, you know,
when I got to New York, great teachers there, Ron
Van lou at NYU. So like every step of the way,
there was somebody there telling me, hey, you know, you
really you can do this, because I never really felt
like this.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Was my thing.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Like I'm a Guyanese immigrant, so you're supposed to do
something responsible, you.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Know what I mean? And I was. I was making
choices that were not that and so I just got
very very lucky all along the way. So how what
did you have?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
What did you do the stomach up to tell your
parents that hey, I'm not going to be studying law,
I'm gonna try this acting thing.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Like right, you know what.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
My mom was super super supportive, you know, because what
happened was like my first year of college. Right after
my first year of college, my father passed and so
it was just me and my mom, my brother, and
my sister, And it was a period of time where
I think I felt kind of, you know what, like.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
My dad is gone. One of the last things.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
He told me before he passed was to take time
to smell the roses. Yes, what he told me, And
so like, I think that kind of put me in
a mindset of like, you know what, what the hell, man,
Like I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Try this acting man, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
And my mom was very much in that same kind
of headspace, I think, where she was kind of like,
you know what, we don't we don't know how long
we're here.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Right, so so go for it, so you know, oh man,
And she was.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
She was super supportive in a way that you wouldn't
expect a typical uh I guess immigrant parent to bey.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
But but yeah, like she didn't. You know.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
What was great was that like she came and saw
me do plays at school, okay, and I think and
I think that gave her the feeling like, okay, like
you know, he's this is something he loves to do, right,
and this is and I don't want to stand in
the way.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
So I think that's how I kind of played out. No,
that's dope, that's dope.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
You know, hey, listen, you gotta love a supportive black mom,
you know, right. No, But you know, you know us,
especially in black culture, you know, we're always have a
there's always a level of skepticism in anything that we
take right.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
We're always like, okay, when is that other shoe going
to drop? Right? But then you have that moment where
you can breathe right.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
So for you, what was the moment that where you
was like, oh and like you like you really felt confident,
tell your mom like, hey, I'm here, this is it,
this is the career now, Like, what was that moment?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
I think when I got to New York and uh,
I was doing plays at school. Uh, she would always
come and see all my plays up at school in
NYU two.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I was there for grad school.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
And I think like by my third year there, she
was like, oh, like this is legit.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
You know, you can really do this, you know.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, And then and then I booked a job not
too long after graduating.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Uh, on One Life to Live. I got to play
this corny gang banger.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
It was it was horrible. It was terrible, but but
it showed my mom that I could really actually get
paid doing this, you know, and it was something that
she could tell friends and family, Hey, you know, Shaanie
gonna be all one life to live you know, and
watch it, you know, to borrow two o'clock, you know,
and so like she had something that she could point
to to like see, oh okay, this is like the.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Real deal, and it just kind of flew from there.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Oh man, that's dope because you know, like I said,
that's a voice actor myself, and you know, you know,
uh uh, I'm still trying to work more on the
acting side and everything. When I booked my first national commercial,
I think that was like from my pops military man.
That's when he realized, like, ah, okay, this is this
is something serious.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Okay, you got it. You gotta give him that little
like seed of like, Okay, this is not a joke,
you know, right right, you definitely do, you definitely do.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
And then you know, like, you know, I know that
you know, you're talking intensively extensively about you know, with
the with say the last thing you enjoyed more of
like the offscreen things you know that they had you
out in the clubs in Chicago and and everything like that.
But I would say the last thing, the one thing
that I did want to ask you about. Have you

(07:49):
seen the tiktoks the people doing the doing the.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
You know what everybody sends me those tiktoks? Everybody, everybody.
I see those things all day, every day, and you
know what, I appreciate it, you know. I think at first,
I think at first I was like, hold on, this
is you know, like what are people saying here? But
then like I was like, oh, this is like appreciation,
This is love. You know, this is like something that

(08:14):
that's stuck.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
With them, you know. And when when you're an actor,
that's gold.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
When you're an actor, when you do something that people
remember and enjoy like that happens very very rarely.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
And you got a couple of those because I mean,
I mean, I mean you took Eves orange juice.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
I know, you know, apple apple juice, apple juice, and
it was and it wasn't me, it.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Was it wasn't you, It wasn't you.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
But you got blaming, You got I got blamed, yes, yes, yes,
But like you have those moments you have, like said,
would say, the last dance what I liked about because
even you got to think about that error, there was
so much of like focus on dance, hip hop and
everything like that we had stopped the yard we had
you know, even just black colleges and just even that
experience of black New York and entertainment in theater or

(09:00):
just like we had so many of those that kind
of came around that room and say, the Last Dance
was very, very pivotal in that era of you know,
my generations for sure of just like yo, this is
like wait a minute, this is exploring us to something different.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
You know, at that time, even.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Just the thought process of you know, how to mix
classical dance with hip hop that was still a foreign idea.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
You know. During that time, we.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Started focusing more on choreography with certain artists and everything
like that.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
But this was kind of like a a peak behind
the curtain. It was.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
It really was, It really was, And it was a privilege,
you know on my part to get to play that
role because on paper, I did not see myself playing
that role, you know, because you know, I grew up,
I was born and raised in Delaware, Okay, in Wilmington, Delaware,
and you know, on paper, this guy was you know raised,
you know, you know, south Side of Chicago, and I
was older than seventeen for sure when I came to

(09:56):
shoot the movie. And I'm no dancer either, so all
those reasons, I was like, wow, this is a big
hill to climb. But again, I just have to, you know,
thank people who helped me along the way to not
make a fool out of myself, you know, Oh yeah, definite, Richmond,
Richmond Tallawiga and Fatima Robinson. Uh, they really just like

(10:20):
carried me through that entire film, and and and and
made sure that I was at least plausible in the role.
So I give forever thanks to them, and and and
Punch Earl Punch right, who is my dance double, Uh,
phenomenal brother, amazing dancer, and and and those those people
really really saved my butt. And obviously of course working

(10:41):
with Julia Styles, who was the most incredible professional, cared
so much about being great that that could only help
but lift me up as well.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh no, yeah, definitely. And you know, I love the fact,
you know, when I do these interviews.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
The one thing that I really love when I'm speaking
with actors, especially you know, of your caliber is how
you guys remember the names of people that were involved
that was on screen and off screen, right, Because to me,
you know, I'm a researcher. I'm a person that I
like to deep dive a lot of the times I'm
like who did that? And I'm like, let me look
at that, who wrote that part?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
And so I love the fact that, like, you know,
even with those you can kind of go back and
be like, Okay, you know who helped out with the choreography,
who did the costume design, and who did this, and
it was like, I love the fact that you guys
are able to remember those names in those pivotal moments.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
That's just gratitude for me, pure gratitude.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I mean on a day to day basis, they were
the ones that were just like carrying me, you know. Yeah,
so you can't forget them because they're the ones that
made the difference between your phone on your face and
you know, and having people remember you as having done
good work.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
And so I know, Halloween just ended. However, you know,
you are part of how uh black horror history right
because you're in the that because you are in the
movie that the first black man fought back ah.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Not to bust the rhymes.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
But in that movie Halloween Resurrection, we let's hear it
because you know, you know, we watch we've been watching
horror movies all our lives, and we always say, like, what,
that's not how black man is going to react and
bust the rhymes.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
He squared up, He squared up, he did in horror.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Are you a horror fan or like, because I mean,
you haven't did a lot of horror movies, but that
one is still in the ethos.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, I've done a few.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I'm not a huge horror fan, to be honest with you,
because like for me, it's hard for me to suspend
my disbelief because I always feel like, you know, okay,
they're just kind of setting me up for the next
time to say boom, you know. And so for me,
I need a lot more than just like somebody coming

(12:54):
out of the dark with a knife, Like I need
a little bit more of that psychological intrigue going on
to it for me to really get into it.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
It is much more my style.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
So like so kind of like the things that Jordan
Peel is doing, you know, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Like that's more your speed. Absolutely, man, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, man, you know what, Now it made me think,
because I can you and Jordan Pill will put together
something amazing.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I believe, Bro, you know what.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
That brother, he looks at things from a totally different angle,
and any anything that he's doing, I'd be down to
do it, you know, because like that's that's when I
get excited, when i'm when somebody's coming at me with
something that I wasn't expecting.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
We're gonna put that in the ethos. We're gonna make it.
We're gonna put that in there.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
But we here specifically for because you are part of
gen b jen V and the Boys universe as Polarity
and Bro. This last season, this last season was so dope.
So I was let's let's let's take it back because
I always like to like.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
To hear people take it.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, when you first got the role or got you know,
got the got the the the audition for it and everything,
what was your first thought process going into this and
knowing about the universe.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Well, that's the thing. I didn't know about the universe
and I got the audition. When I got the audition,
I'd heard of the Boys, I was aware of it.
I knew that it was popular and well loved, but
I'd never seen it, and so I just auditioned with
what I saw on the page, which was this father
who was having this conflict.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
With his son, you know. Oh, and that that was
what was on the page.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
And I knew that they were superheroes and that they
had superpowers, but to me, that was secondary, yeah, to
the relation to the relationship, you know, this father and son.
And so that's all I played. You know, I didn't
know anything about the Boys.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
And then after I did the audition.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Months past and I didn't hear anything about, you know,
about the role and anything like that. But I did
end up watching the Boys a little bit, you know,
because I was curious after having done that audition, and
I was hooked. The Boys was just so incredible. It
was so mind blowing. It was so like original. And
at that point, I was like, man, I'm glad I
hadn't seen the Boys before this audition, because if I

(15:06):
had seen the Boys before this audition, I would have
been all geeked up. I would have been like, oh
my god, it's the Boys, you know, And so it
actually helped me that I was unfamiliar.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh man, that's the yeah. And then what happened was,
after those months.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Passed, I got a call, Hey, they want you to
read again for gen V. Yeah, and by this time
I had seen The Boys, you know, right, So I
calmed myself down and.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Went in an auditioned for it, and it all worked out.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Oh man, that's no, so okay if they when they
give you the slides and they're just like, all right,
you're just a father and son and you're having this conversation,
you're taking a straight age. But then you watch The
Boys and you're like, whoa, wait a minute, this is
not the superhero show that I.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Thought right right, right, And so when you see something,
when you see what.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
The what the universe is, and then you're like, all right,
do you do you now? Do you want your character
to have some extremes or do you like, let me
continue to play like this, Like it's like did you
want to.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Go fall in? No?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
You know what what was cool about it was that, like,
once I was aware of what The Boys is.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
And what that whole world is.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, when you really think about it, when you really
try and play the truth of the scene, it's the
exact same thing.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
It's really about the relationships.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
It's really about this father and this son and how
do they bridge the gap between them, And that's really
what it's about. So what I originally played at my
first audition really isn't really any different after I found
out about the boys. For me, it was just about
like not getting so excited because now I knew what
I was, what I was getting.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Into, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
That's that's really the only difference is just keeping my
own emotions in check and playing the scene for what
it is and play the relationships.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, and you know, you know, shout out to you
and Chance man, you know, you know, rest in peace
to him. But you guys, you guys definitely like you
guys really killed the father dynamic role, you know, father
son dynamic role in there, like because it really felt like,
you know, the father who was the hair ro who
was like, all right, I really want to I really
want to USh you into this because I can see

(17:03):
the benefit of this in regards to that.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
But you know, you also you know this a little.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Bit going on, but you you you feel confident enough
that you can protect them in this and everything.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
And I feel like, you know, and then you had
chance being kind of more of a kind of.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
A rebellion and everything and his character and it was
just like it was a real great dynamic. I was
able to see pretty much like my how my interaction
with my dad, because like, you played a great black dad,
Like you know, there's so many moments that is like, oh,
that's a black.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Dad right there.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Well, you know I had, I had a good, strong
black dad, and I'm like to think that I'm a
good strong black dad myself in real life.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
I have two kids and I have a son, Luke
he's fifteen, have a daughter Lolo, she's seventeen, And you know,
I pride myself with my dad energy for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, no, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
And so one of the things because like I said,
I love the gen V cast so much and I
love that storyline so much. Right and then when the
unfortunate accident happened with Chance, I was like, dangn and
he played such a big part into that season. And
then I'm also I'm like, I kind of know what
the gen V universe is. I want them I don't
want them to straight away from the character and what
the themes and how the show is. But I was

(18:11):
like I wanted I hope that they do it tastefully
and in a great way, And personally, I believe that
they did it excellent the way that they you know,
played that on screen, and you know, and you know
you got to you still feel the emotion from the cast,
which you know that it was. Yes, it's the character's emotion,
but you can really feel how that impact on there
going into that season.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
How did you.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Mentally prepare for just even dealing with that and having
to have that through line within the story. You know,
it was tough to have like some overarching, you know,
strategy to it. You know, I guess my my biggest
feeling was Chance is so unique, He's so incredible, He's

(18:57):
so talented. I have to do everything in my power
to make sure that the weight and the impact of
his loss, of his absence is felt. And everything that
I do in every scene that I do, every every
moment that I'm on camera, I have to make sure
that the the gravity of his loss is felt. That

(19:20):
that was really the biggest thing for me, and not
just his character Andre, but a chance to the young
man Chance, the young man, Uh, he was just you know, irreplaceable. Yeah,
And except like I said, I believe that the show
did it masterfully. I feel like you guys paid you know,
perfect homage to his character and him as a person.

(19:44):
And you know, like I said, everybody including you know,
on that set, with that, with with that.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Team, you guys did an amazing, amazing job with that.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
The one thing that I absolutely love about the culture
is that it's still embedded in black culture. Mike, he's
still rot dumps or Jordan's And they also talked about
Batman first Superman. Batman and super Superman is literally Brown
versus Jordan.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Dragon ball Z. That like, my whole trajectory and life changed.
Don't nobody talk to me. My shit is on. We
just been experience. It looks like it's gonna be real deep.
The elevation from where King Vader.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Started to now Black geek culture helped me through some
of the highs of my life, through some of the
lowers in my life. It's always been there, sort of
like an undercurrent of everything I did.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
There was no term for it, there was no it
was just this is what I'm doing. I love us
in it.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I love the fact that we take things and we
always make it better.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Now, you know, with the development of the show and
everything like that, So polarity gets a more bigger rolling
because now you guys got like this Scooby Doo mystery
thing with Adkin, right because you.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Know, because he's like now because it's like, okay, who
done it? You gotta get that mask off of him.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
You don't know, you know, you don't know who Cipher
is and bro, you know, as a geek, as a nerd,
you know, a black nerd over here.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
We had our theories and everything like that.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
For you man, like how was it that you know,
to be able to dive into like that mystery of it,
having to be able to kind of go through that
teaming up with Little Cricket the team up didn't know
we needed.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
But we love you know what. That was just a
lot of fun, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
I mean for me as a black man, as a
black actor, you fantasize when you're growing up, you know
about superhero stuff and you know, Superman and Batman, spider Man, whatever,
and when you're black, you always kind of felt like
the black superhero was kind of sidelined or secondary or

(21:55):
a sidekick or an act thought, you know, And to
step into this season and to be able to move
beyond that, you know, where like you know, the black
superhero is actually a key part of telling this story,
an essential element of getting answers, you know. I was

(22:18):
very proud of that and very excited about that. And
then on top of that, getting to work with Lizzie.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Broadway please Emma a little cricket.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Well, she's just so inventive and so much fun to
work with and she brings so much different you know,
energies and colors and line readings and surprises all the
time that it was a real, real, real pleasure to
work with her.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
No, yeah, it was. It was great. It's definitely looked
like you guys was having a whole lot of fun
on there.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
And again, like just even just like the way that
they like, the way that they did your character, taking
your character from you know, the press willing, willing to
give up to becoming you know, pretty much the savior
of the season and everything, Like, I thought that that
was really dope and to me, Okay, so I love
comic book stuff, right, and I love the X Men right,
And I don't know if this was intentional or not,

(23:05):
but I like the flip of the ones in charge,
Like you think about Magneto and Professor X. Magneto is
the person who the moves things with his mind. He's
the good guy. I mean, I was on Professor XA guy, yeah,
and Magneto is the bad guy and Magnetism. But you
guys flipped it. Polarity is kind of is now the
one who has the children of the future, that is,

(23:25):
you know, with the gen v and then you have
Cipher slash Godokin who is the one that is really nefarious.
And I thought that that was really really a dope
contrast of showing how like these powers can be good
or these powers can be bad.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
It just really depends on the on the wielder the user.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And when you just nailed it, like
the idea of having superpowers is that it really just
amplifies who are what you really really are, you know. Uh,
you know, so if you have some flaw or some
hole in your soul, the superpowers amplify that that. You know,
if you have some type of part of you that's

(24:03):
that's better than you have been and there's some potential
for you, the superpowers amplify that too, you know. And
so that's a very cool dynamic. And you touched on
that and on top of that, you know, episode the episode,
I did not know how that was going to play out, Like,
I didn't know up until like a couple of weeks
before we shot that. You know, Polarity was going to

(24:24):
have all these you know, leveling up as Okay, I
didn't know.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I didn't know. I'm just like the audience.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
I'm reading the scripts waiting to see what's going to
happen next myself, you know, And so the whole Professor
x Magneto thing, I don't really have a sense of
that at all while we were doing it, oh and
not not remotely, And so I only got a real
sense of that after it was all over and I
actually seen the show.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
So that's maybe you know, just a couple of months ago.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Oh man, that's that's dope. I like that because it
now allows you to just really live in the character, right,
not always thinking about the next thing at the next scene,
how this like you can just give your best performance
as Polarity, as this character, and then it works in
so well because you trust your team, you trust that cast,
you trust how it's going to be, you know, cut
on there and they said they did it so perfectly

(25:14):
and you know what again, going back to that black
dad moment at the end when it was like he
was like all right, y'all gotta go, and it was
like no, it's like, hey listen here, y'all got to
go about that was such like I like, that was
one of those ones like if you know, you know,
you don't You didn't have to say much else.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
It was just like, all right, that's a black dad
putting his foot down. Black Hey.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
You know what if I can be remembered as like
one of those black dads, that would just be a
cherry on top of the cake from me, like James Evans,
you know that.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
That whole uh you know tradition. I'm down for that.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Because you know, if you think about it this way, right,
and you know, it's kind of like the you know,
the silver lining is that, yes, you know, you know,
Polarity may have lost his son, but he literally gained
a group of children that is now his his You
know that he has the he helps and overseas and
looking things like that that he wants to protect.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
No doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I mean I think he sees these helping these kids
as like his way of redeeming himself honestly, you know,
he feels like, you know what, I dropped the ball
with my own son. My son is dead largely because
of actions that I took, you know, and if I
do nothing else, I have to spend the rest of
my life making that up to him and protecting these

(26:39):
children from the same forces that took my own son.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
No, absolutely, So A couple of questions that I always
like to ask characters, specifically black characters, for sure, because
you know, music plays a big part in black culture
and black people and everything like that, right, and we do.
We play music for a lot of things. We cleaning up,
we playing music, were working out, We're playing music.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
So I want to know what music does Polarity listen
to to get his day started. Oh, that would have
to be Eric being rock Kim, no doubt about it.
That's his thing, that's societiest thing.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he's he's from that era, like
that would be his his uh, his style, you know,
Eric being Rock Kim, Public Enemy KRS one, You know
that that that whole vibe, that whole era Big Daddy came.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Oh yeah, Flaritt Clarity got some bangers that he's listening
to He started, h quickly, if you can answer this
question for us, and I know that I don't know.
You might know or not, But it was a theory
that we had that in that moment where Black Noir
was kind of questioning Polarity, it kind of seemed like

(27:49):
two things. One, Black Noir was a big fan of Clarity,
but it also seemed like Clarity and.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Black Noir had met before and everything like that.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Because he had that moment, he was like, wait, so
you can talk now on the paper.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Was there a history between Black Noir and Polarity?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
I mean, the way I took it, they had never met,
That's the way I took it. Because Noir is so
excited to have met him, and Noir taking selfies with
him and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
To me, that suggests that they never.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Really met, and that Noir was just a fan of
Polarity and like his old movies like this one right here.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Like like that movie right you know? So I think
that uh, Noir really is just a fan.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Oh and and Polarity is like, oh Jesus, this guy,
he won't shut up.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Did you get the did you get to put the
suit on?

Speaker 3 (28:40):
I've never worn the suit I've never worn I never
want a suit because that's that's polarity.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
When he was like in.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
His prime, true, you know, commodity, you know, doing the
movies and concerts and all that stuff, and he's retired
from the suit and now he's like an elder statesman.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I just want to let you know.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
You know, we get into con season and we had
we had a couple of scenes where we was able
to see the suit in full. So I am predicting
that you're going to see some polarity cosplays at some point.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Hey man, I would love that. And I want to
wear to suit myself, like season three, like I want
to suit. I want we gotta get you in this.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
I'm just putting that out there writers. I mean, gotta
get you into the suit. I want the suit.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Okay, let's do it. I can still I can still
fit it, sameasments. All right.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
So we got some fun topics that we're gonna go
over real quick and it will get you a little
boy here. So I always like to get some top
five from people. So you who watched the gen of
the Boys universe, watching Gen V and knowing that there's
always that shock value, I want to know what is
the top five shocking moments for you? And it doesn't
have to be in order, just five shocking moments for
that Gen V Boys universe that made you go.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Whoa what?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Number one has to be the opening scene of Gen
V with teenage Marie Oh yeah, getting her uh her
monthly cycle and then you know, the blood starts shooting
out and killing her parents and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
That's just off the chain.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's so original and so inventive and and it really
set up the entire series. Definitely did that opening scene
of Gen B. But then the number two I would
have to go with the opening scene of the Boys,
because you know, Hugh, he's just chilling with his girlfriend
and then bam and then and again you're like, what
just happened?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Oh my god? And then that.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Sets up with but the show is going to be
there too, you know. Beyond that, I would have to say, uh,
hero Gasm, he was.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Crazy when I when I when I talked, when I
had the conversation with las Alonzo, he was saying he
was like, he said, I really had to shower so
many times?

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Oh man, oh man, that was just nuts. Hero Gasm.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I would also have to say, uh, let me think
another scene on The Boys. It was think it was
season four where they were in uh in that kind
of bath house and the guy kept reproducing himself.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh yes, yes, yeah, and yeah that was that was crazy.
That was crazy. Nuts. That was crazy. That was nuts.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
And then I guess back to gen v you know,
uh Marie blowing up that penis you know.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Uh, yes, that's that.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
That's something that like as a as a man who
is very pro feminist as I am.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, when you when you.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
See the specter of sexual assault yep, and you see
that this woman had the power to just like blow
up his penis.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, I like that whole I like the symbolism of that.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, that's what you know what I mean, Like there's
something about that that, as somebody who supports women, I
love to see.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
So, you know, it's just funny because it's like you
have certain actors who play a role so well, but
because of what happens in this character, it's just like
I can't just root for this character, right, So, like
because of what happened in The Boys, I could never
sympathize for the deep like I just.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
R You're right, I just can't the deepest the deepest
a rapist, right, right, He's a rapist, right, And so
I just can't you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
The actors doing great, and even that characters story is
you know, it's good, it's a good story to tell
on paper.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
But he he's forever a villain. I cannot is he is.
He is a predator.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
He is a predator, and it comes out of his
own weakness, yes, and and and that's the way it
is in real life too. Then there's the people, the
people that are doing the most harm, the people who
are hurting the most people are the weakest ones, you know,
And I think that goes for the deep I think
that goods for Homelander for sure.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
So that that's how it works.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
And I'm glad that, uh, you know, you you and
I see it the same way that that that the deep,
the deepest is not somebody to be admired.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
So now this is what I've been asking all gen
V Boys universe people, because you always now the big topic,
the big debate, Superman versus Homelander.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Who do you got coming out?

Speaker 3 (33:05):
Hmmm, Superman versus Homelander. I think it would have to
be Superman.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
I mean, you know, what.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
That is a tough one because Homelander does not have
a known weakness other than breast milk as far as
i'm yeah, well, Superman obviously is kryptonite.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
So if we can keep the kryptonite out.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Of the mix easily Superman yeah yeah, so yeah, because
when I when I talk with Susan Hayward, she was
saying that her only concern though, is that Superman also
has a moral compass, but Homelander does not. And that's
that's that's the that's the unexpected, like we don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah, yeah, but you know, we see, let's say, depending on.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
What storyline you've seen, Like I said, Superman, eh straight
lebotomized people out here.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
So oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
The thing is, but that's the thing about a fight,
is that in a fight, the crazier one has the
advantage generally speaking.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, so I guess maybe that would be Homelander.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah, but I've also seen in comics and movies as well,
if you pissed Superman off enough, he's got you.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
You can't be if you pissed Superman off, it's over. Yeah. No, definitely, definitely. Oh.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I meant to ask this real quick, to go back
to just real quick. When you were preparing for Polarity,
was there any like muse or anybody that you like,
any character or anything that you used to kind of
play off of.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Not really, not really.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
I mean the writers really are just brilliant, and everything
that I needed was on the page.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Ok So, like I didn't really need to.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Kind of like look beyond the situations and the dialogue
that they gave me. But I would say, overall my
muse for everything, at all times, it's Sidney Poaitier.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Oh no, heard out about it. That is a great
muse there. So just that sense of groundedness and that
sense of black manhood. Yeah, you know, he's the gold standard.
He's the icon.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
He's the Muse forever and for always. For me, Oh
that's that's that's dope. And you know what I can
I can definitely see it in the roles that you take.
You know, it's like say, you know, especially in the
important roles like until you Know, because like like that
is one of those roles. It was like, oh my god,
Like wait a minute, Like you know what I'm saying.
You really you really get to flex in in in

(35:22):
those period pieces, and I think that you, like you
said I feel like you really that whole movie in
general just really kind of you know, the heaviness of
that movie and then you know, you being able to
portray Gmobile as you know, as the father figure too
till I just thought that that was pretty dope.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
I appreciate that. Man. Yeah, we did our best every
single day on that movie.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
There was a kind of solemness and and and eerie
respect for Emmett, for his mother and what they went
through every single day. The energy on set was very,
very all about honoring his sacrifice.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, all of it.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, no, and it definitely came through on screen with
that in regards to that.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Okay, so last two questions in there. So you know,
right now we're in a world dealing with multiverses.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Everybody has a multiverse, right in the Sean Patrick Thomas multiverse.
If you have to put a buddy cop with two
characters that you played, which two characters will be in your.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Buddy cop movie a buddy cop movie, Well one has
to be Polarity, Yeah, because like he's got crime fighting skills,
buddy cop polarity And hmmm, I think I gotta go
with Jimmy James. Oh yeah, Polarity and Jimmy James, because

(36:50):
I think they're both smart and I think that they
would be entertaining to watch together because Polarity is kind
of serious and Jimmy James, you know, is kind of
you know, off the chain a.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Little bit that's had a straight man.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, yeah, so I think that I think that, yeah,
the conflict between those two, the contrast to be very
funny to watch.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
What do you remember about that cast?

Speaker 2 (37:13):
That barbershop cast man that was such a great black
excellence all through, all through and through.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
It was I'm so grateful to have been a part
of that, because that's another thing that I was in
that everybody seems.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
To remember, and I'm so grateful for that. It was
so much. All we did was laugh. All we did
was laugh.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Like when the cameras were not rolling, we were still
laughing all day.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Every day. Cedric the entertainer had us in stitches.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
He would try something different every take, and he's such
a brilliant comedian and and a wonderful person, but he
had me laughing the whole time. Just brilliant, brilliant, and
we all enjoy all We all enjoyed each other's company.
I think we all uh played off each other. Well absolutely,
we just had.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
A great time.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
If you guys captured that barber shop feel for real, Like,
you know, if you're if you were a black person
in America and you've been to an American barbershop, black
barber shop, that was that was a great portrayal.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
All right.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
So we have this last thing that we call geek
set hypotheticals. Okay, zombie apocalypse, alien apocalypse, robot apocalypse.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Which one do you believe you would be able to survive?
The mancacin zombie robot or what was the other one? Alien? Alien? Uh?

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I think I could survive an alien apocalypse the best.
Oh zombies, Like, I feel like it would just never end,
you know, like you could never ever, ever, ever ever chill.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
You can never chill.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
You can never chill with a zombie apocalypse. And and robots.
You can't really reason with a robot, you know. But
I feel like with an alien, like, as long as
I'm chill, as long as I lay back and like, hey,
I'm cool, we can be cool even if we don't
speak the same language. If I can communicate that spiritually,

(39:07):
maybe I have a chance. So I would take my
chances with an alien.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
And also, like I said, we've seen if we're using
movies as examples, we see more movies where we came
out either triumphant or fended off Earth against aliens.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
For zombies and robots, it's always never ending. We never
it's that that is no point, it's not gonna work.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
No right, well, man, let's say I ain't gonna hold
you two more longer. Man, I just want to say again,
thank you, thank you so much for your time, thank
you so much for everything.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I do look forward to and hopefully that you know,
they do more with that Polarity character.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
You know, I know that gen V is still up
in the air, but that I mean, but I know
The Boys is going to be done. But I know
that the creator said that that universe, though, is not done.
And so that's where I'm like, oh yeah, we definitely
got to tap more back into Polarity because it left
on the cliffhanger.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I mean, like I Sai, we left on the clip.
We can't leave loose ends.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
I gotta figure out when when the people come, what
did Polarity either say or do at that moment, because
there has to be.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
An aftermath like the audience has to see that.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
The Dokin came back and died. So it's like Cipher
was like, there's so much that got to uncovered. We
we can't just leave us out there like that.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
There's a lot more to do. There's a lot more
to do, a lot more to do.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
But again, Man, from the culture, from black culture, from
blurred culture, from geek set, from me, Man, thank you
so much, Thank you again, and we appreciate everything that
you got going on out here.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Man, brother, thank you so much for having me. I
really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Talk no doubt and as always, man, this is the
only podcast that blend hip hop culture and geek coachure together.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
I'm your boy, Duces.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
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