Sonia Denis talks #IronHeart, Playing Clown, #BlackLadySketchShow & more | S8 E5 | 1 on 1's w/Deuces - 1-on-1's w/Deuces

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Let me choose your character. All right, all right, all right,
welcome back to the geek Set podcast only podcast that
blend hip hop culture and geek coachure together. I'm your boy, Duces,
and this is one on one with Deuces, the place
where I speak with creators, curators and people that you

(00:44):
should know. And again another one of these interviews where
if you listen to my podcast, you already know the
love I have for this show. You already know the
love I have for this cast. And today I am
honored to be speaking to none other than Sonya Danie.
How are you doing today? I'm doing great, I am

(01:10):
you know, I've been having a hell of a week,
so you know what I'm saying. So this is kind
of like the cherry on top of the cake for
me because you know, we're a one man show, like
you know, we run this whole thing operation by ourselves.
So I'm always grateful for having this, uh, these type
of opportunities. It's me and just like four of my guys,
but like we have no backing or anything like that,
so anytime we're able to get somebody like you, it

(01:32):
is such a big, big moment for us. And before
I start like I said, my platform is all about
giving people their flowers while they are here, right.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
When I see when when you popped up on this show.
The one thing that like really really resonated with me
and then the culture is that one we got tired
of the same black character tropes that we've seen in TV, right,
and so here comes your character, this eccentric character. You know,
the style, the hair, the look, and it was like

(02:03):
one of those moments like, oh my god, we got
another representation for us, and you killed the role so much.
It was so much layers and nuance to your character.
And I want to say, from me from my podcast
from the culture, thank you so much for everything that
you have given us in this within within this character
and then just your work in general.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I appreciate that so much. Like there were a lot
of time and love and effort and thought and intentional
into like every single person that you saw on camera
and behind camera. It was so much love was put
into us. So it means a lot that it was received.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Now, one thing, like I said, because I'm I got
a couple of questions about the show, and then a
couple of questions just in general about you. But I
know that. You know, you at one point was talking
about having imposture syndrome when you got onto that show, right,
because there was so many actors who had such you know,
longngevity and acting and everything like that. But then the

(03:00):
came out and it got such a great reception, especially
within the culture and again and with your character specifically,
and I wanted to know, like, now that the show
has got and then you see the reception and everything,
has that helped with your imposture syndrome?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah? No, it for sure has. I loved the character
so much and she was so fun to play and
it honestly, when I got into it, it felt like
everything I've been doing, from writing and stand up and
even the other acting i'd done improv it all felt
like this was like it was meant for this moment.
And so to have people received the show and also

(03:37):
to see you know, the different takes online on different
social media and stuff like that, I definitely felt like, Okay, yeah,
like I what what I's the work I put into
it and the care I did people received that, and yeah,
we got so much love for the show. You know,
it was like a long wait, you know, before it
came out, so you started to be like, did we

(03:59):
really do that? I love it? Did I do that?
Did I say this? You know what I'm saying. So
when people received it and saw it and you got
to hear other people's perspectives on it finally and actually
watch it ourselves, it was like, this is so cool.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, because that had to be like a like a
like a stressful like sandwich, because like, first you get
the row, You're like, oh my god, I got the row.
Then you do it and then you're like, all right,
I don't know when it's gonna come out. And then
it comes out and you're like, now I gotta wait
till people see like it?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Right? Yeah? Yeah, we were like it comes out twenty
twenty what five? Planning my death by now I'm saying
global warming?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Right, you know the rapture just happened. We don't even
know it's.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Gonna be right. I was like, God, please wait until
after this comes out, then you can take me and think.
God was like, I'm not taking you both. You're not
one of them. Now.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
What I do love about your moments in the show
is that the moments where you really got to like
your personality, like your personality got to shine through and
with some of our favorite moments. So like I know,
like when you had to put the cape on right,
you know you that wasn't a moment where you kind
of you didn't like you. The guys didn't have to
set to practice, so when you got to do it

(05:10):
on camera, you really got to kind of like you know,
show your comedy impriv skills and everything. And that became
a lot of people's favorite moment. And I was like,
for that for you to be able to put yourself
in that role and that be a great moment. How
was that for you?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
It was so fun because actually that that scene was
one of the scenes I auditioned with, so I yeah,
so i'd actually when I remember reading it and being
so excited to film that, and I had this like
I went to a third store in Mexico City. I
don't know why I bought this, like this like old
like it's like this jacket, this smoking jacket that's like

(05:45):
really big, and like I was, I have not worn
it since, even though the guy convinced me to buy
it and I spent more money than I should have.
But I remember being like, oh, this is the perfect
thing for it, so I had harady been, I practiced
that I'd done it in my audition and so to
get on set and then like see the stairs and
they were just kind of like, well, hear the lines

(06:05):
and like she just needs to you know, reach the
bottom of the stairs like this. So I just was like, oh,
this is I love it, Like this is so fun
to just be able to just do some wacky shit and.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yes, absolutely looking at geek shit over here.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah like GK shit. Yeah, to do some wacky shit
and yeah, I was I was so happy when I
saw like people like clipping it and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
It was yeah. And then you know, it's also you
just got to think, like, you know, we have all
like all these like like different superhero character tropes and
everything that we that we get to you know, experience, right,
but like you, I know that you pulled arcane as
an inspiration for a clown and everything, and what's great.
I always love these moments where you get a character

(06:53):
that hasn't really been portrayed in live action and then
you get to be the first because now you kind
of set the precedence for that character. Like when I
think of clown in Marvel now I'm like, I picture
you and what you brought to the role, so now
anything that comes after is kind of gonna be there.
So my question is you, like, with you pulling from
Arcane and then now portraying Clown and everything like that

(07:15):
prep work for that role, what was it about Arcane
that that you saw that you was like, this will
fit with Clown and then you started doing your iteration
of it.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, I loved, loved Arcane. I remember watching it when
it came out and just being like so stunned by
how incredible the the animation was. And I remember when
I was reading the size for Clown and then when
I got the role, I just I think I was
like rewatching it and I just saw the character Jinx

(07:47):
and it's like I think they have there's these these
sensitive girls where like you know, they cover with like
humor and their exterior is like you know, there's artarial
choices are very much like speaking to how they feel
inside and when someone hurts them or something bothers them,

(08:07):
They've learned to have this shell which is the you know,
the physical, but also like their personalities. And I just
felt like I felt some of that. And I also
when I was watching Our Cane and seen Jens's character,
it just kind of resonated. And then when I got
on set, like I didn't know how she would look.
And then you know, Sam Bailey and the people who
are wardrobe and hair and makeup, like not enough can

(08:30):
be said about them because so much of that. To
be able to see yourself in the costume, with the makeup,
with the hair, with the fronts, it was like okay,
Like it made it easy to like switch on into
that character and to be this person who you know
had the moments of like she's quick for a joke,
but then when she's hurt, you can kind of see

(08:51):
that too because she is like, yeah, such a sensitive person,
but she's not gonna let you know that. And for
me too, humor has always been the way I've coped
with things, like I will make fun of something the
darkest thing that's happened to me, because it loosens its
power and like allows me to create a change the narrative,
which I felt like that was a thing that clown
did a lot.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
No, absolutely, and like and the way that you that
the way that your character was written and how you
portrayed it, it left us wanting so much more from clown,
like you know, because it was like, all right, there's
a lot to this character. But then also you were
able to get that moment of like, oh shit, she
is a fierce character. Like when she was chasing re Read,

(09:32):
it was like whoah, like this like yeah, like you know,
it was kind of like, you know, like kind of
like a horror movie. Like it was just like that
moment like whoa, I need to know more about this character.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
No, that was so fun. I mean, that was honestly
an exhausting shoot. They built a white castle in the
middle of Atlanta, okay, and then it was all the shoot.
It was at night time, so we had to work
overnight to do that, so that was exhausting. It was
like a lot of late nights. And then for me
and Dominique like figuring out the choreography with also Angela Barnes,

(10:05):
the director of being like Okay, she's gonna go here,
and then she's gonna go there, and then like yeah,
it was because the scene starts off with me blowing
the glass on the door and like kind of like
this cat mouse thing. It was like, oh, this is
kind of fun, Like I feel like clown hasn't really
been a villain until now, Like and now I was like, yeah,
I'm really trying to kill you read like raw mistakenly,

(10:29):
but I just had to make a choice, right right,
she's in the murder you.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, but like I said, you know, and then you know,
knowing what I know about like a lot of behind
the scenes and like movies and shows and everything like that,
Like you said, that is late night, but then you're
also dealing with practical effects, like I know that that
also had to be like just adding to those elements
like oh okay, wait, that's that is something that's really
going to explode or that's something that's really on fire
at that moment, and so like that had that was

(10:57):
that that definitely, But again, it put together such a
compelling character and such a compelling story, and I just
love the reaction to it. Now before this and before
getting into that, were you a convention person at all
or anything? Like did you go to any other cons Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I went to Kamakahn one year because I was dating
someone that was really into it, uh, And I went
and I was honestly, like I had no idea about it,
Like I've heard of cosplaying whatever, but I didn't know
the extent. I didn't know like I was the mass
of it, the amount of people and also seen people
in their costume and seeing the detail the work, the

(11:35):
time that went into that. It was like I was
really impressed, but I haven't been since. I would love
to go again.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
So here's what I'm gonna tell you two things to know. One,
you literally gave black people something new to cosplay like
this year. This year we've got so much with like
smoking Stack from Sinners and everything like that. Obviously re
Re always been already getting that type of you know, love,
but I going to let you know that specifically dream

(12:02):
Con and Blurred Con, which is which is unapologetically black cons,
you are going to see cosplays of clown but in
your style.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
So I hope that you would. I would love that.
I would love that, like like really, like it really
was like such a collaboration, and I was so impressed
by like the hair, makeup, wardrobe, like just and she's
just fun. Like I was like, can I keep off
the wardrobe like really especially in up fronts, Like I
really was like not star.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I would love to see that.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Oh yeah you will. And they're going to tag you.
Like I said, it's going to be it's going to
be really really dope. And it's because it's one of
those things where, you know, for the longest we you know,
we had Storm, we had static shot, we had a
Bishop like, we had you know, Blade, like we had
small moments of it. But then with the explosion of
Blood Blurred culture and just seeing way more characters and

(12:56):
everything like that, Like you definitely gave us something that
was like, oh yeah, because it comes down to, like
you said, one of the fronts, the hair, the costume,
and then you know, people get very very creative with
the practical, with the practicality of it, right, so somebody's
going to create some way to show the fire or
you know, the explosion.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Like yeah, no, I'm excited to see that, and I'm
excited to see like black people doing that because so
much of her, like the choices she made are black,
like the bands who Knots fronts like it was. And
also all the people who worked on hair were air
Cup and Mordrobe that like the lead team people were
like black people too, So it was like very intentional.

(13:34):
It's obviously the first time me as an actress. One
of the few times I could like show up on
set and not have my hair done at all and
feel like I was at a hair salon and wash it.
They parted like we'd be listening to music. That was
like it was like a very like a whole experience
to be there. So I can't wait to see like
people's interpretation.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Right, No, it's been dope now that you talk, Like
I said, we talked a lot about the costume and everything,
and I know that you said that that first moment
seeing everyone in costume, that was like a breath taking moment.
What other moments during that show on like behind the
scene on set that like really like shot you or
made you like take a step back.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
I got a new appreciation for stunts the scene that
were Manie's character Uncle John like slams my head into
the bar, really do that a bunch of times, and
I was kind of like I'd never done something like
that before. He and I were both stressed about it,
even though stunts did a really great job of like
talking us through it and showing us how to do

(14:34):
it in a way where neither of us would get hurt.
But it was still like hard because in the moment
my body is like I sort of going to fight
like Vaughn. Like I was like, that was like different
because it I thought about other actors who have done
something infinitely more intense where you're really getting hit and this,
that and the third. So that was like my first

(14:56):
experience with that being like with the crew, like these
people you spend this time with. We were all in Atlanta,
and I don't think any of like not if there
are people in the cast were from Atlanta, but like
the vast majority of us were not from there. So
we all spent like a lot of time together offset
and on set and seeing how that kind of translated

(15:17):
into the characters. Like the more we shot and the
more we were comfortable each other and the more we
had like inside jokes with ourselves, the easier it was
to be on screen with everybody and we're all still
like really cool. Like I talked to every body in
the cast at different points texts and all that. So, yeah,
the camaraderie and then just watching like Anthony and dom

(15:38):
Is the two leads, and being in scenes with them
and seeing just how they would like as their position
they would use like the leverage to help other people,
like that day when I had that scene with stunt
and I was getting hit or my head slammed, like
there was a moment where I had something so malfunctioned
with like my hair or something like that. And then
Dominique was like one of the few people that noticed

(15:59):
because I was trying to to say anything and she
kind of like stopped the scene and was like, wait,
I think we should do this. It was just like, yeah,
it was just cool to see to be on set
and realize like how much camaraderie and like how you
do really become like a family, right and.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
It's spend so much time together and that got to
mean a lot that the star of the show. It's
also like got your back, like who whoo, hold up,
I ain't gonna have my girl looking crazy. Let's make it.
Let's get that tog you know.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, yeah, she was amazing because she was working so
many hours and would show up every day lines memorize
is ready, and like, you know, it kind of made
you bring your egg game too, because you were like, Okay,
she's she's doing this every single day basically, and she's
still out here showing.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Up and you know what's funny is like you know,
you know going back is it's like this show you
kind of like manifested it in so many ways. Like
so I know that you talk about the story that
when you were nine you told your mom that you
wanted to be an actress, right, but you also went
to school for computer science and this show re reach
smartest person all down there in the Marvel universe and everything.

(17:06):
It's kind of it's like, oh, this was definitely manifested
for you to be a part of it, because now
you why are you off screen? You could be like,
let me check this this science that you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, it was cool because also with uh excuse me,
Clown's character, she used to be a chemist, and like
when you see that flashback scene, how much more of
a norm she looks like? And then she has a
moment where she like quote unquote breaks bad, and then
like then you see her before and now you see Clown,
how she her hair, everything, who she is, her personality.

(17:41):
It's like there was a period where she went through
like this like evolution, and I felt the same way.
I run into people sometimes who knew me when I
was like in college, and they'll be like huh, it's
like you. I was shocked to hear you do comedy.
Like I was a much quieter person. The way I
like presented myself, the way I walked through the world
was like so different. And also she was a chemist

(18:03):
clown too, so it was like, oh, this is so
much one on one like MATCHI matchie things about this
character like we're not the same, but we're like two
trees on the same or two branches on the same tree.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, no, understandable. And and so I know, like I said,
a lot of you know, you get into these roles
and you have to play this character for a while,
you know, as did you know, you go through learning
the lines, doing it and everything, and then also just
you know, speaking from the character in interviews like this,
I wanted to know, what did you learn about yourself
playing clown?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Hmm. I think it goes to back what you said
about imposter syndrome. I think that I it it being
able to show up in that place like I would
do a scene and like you know, a lot of
the scenes it would be like do the script through
the script, but like there was room for like for example,
with the cape scene, to improvise and bring more life

(18:53):
to the character. Or there'd be some scenes where the
director would turn to me and say, hey, Sonya, for
this one, you can like, you know, make sure you
hit the story notes, but like riff, do something else,
improvise and then I would take a couple of seconds
and then I would just do it. And it really
gave me a lot more confidence as a performer. It
like kind of erased the part of me that had

(19:16):
been like, oh, because when you get something that's big,
you're my impulse anyway, my anxiety works, like how could
I lose it? Like I was really paranoid to get
COVID I. I thought they'd be like, oh wait, no
we met Sonya Davis, like what are you doing here?
We got the wrong actress? Like we didn't want to
hurt you. No, that's crazy, you know. But it was yeah,

(19:41):
being able to show up and do it and have
my other peers and other people on set you know,
be kind and say nice things, and then to later
have the show come out and for it to match
and exceed honestly my expectations of how the character would
be received. Yeah, it just kind of it's like what
you said, it felt like from the moment all this happens.
From the moment I got the sides, I felt like,

(20:02):
oh this was meant to be, like this is the
universe speaking and like right time, right place. Even with
the delay that that was really hard, especially because there
was you know, stripes in Hollywood, but uh yeah, it
was just like everything has divine timing and just being
patient and like understanding it all works out.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
No, And I'm glad that you were able to get
that moment of relief, you know, and it was something
that you are also already good at, you know, from
your background in hosting to to comedy to everything. It's like, oh, yes,
the moment that's going to give you your confidence will
be letting you rift and letting you do your thing
and everything. But I want to let you know that

(20:43):
goes full circle to everybody because you know, like I
told you, like, we're a one team show here, just
straight out of Milwaukee. So every time anytime we get
these interviews, I always think like, all right, they said yes,
but all right until it actually happens. Then they like
how they're going to pull out? And then you know, uh,
with today, even with our delays, I was like, oh
my god, how to mess this up. Now she's gonna

(21:06):
think that professional.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, no, I'm definitely yeah, I'm definitely done to say
but like Eastern Standard Time, Oh no, no, it's all good.
I'm glad we connected.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
No, So so you're going to be in doomsday right.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
What? Uh listen, you gotta call Katafai and have him
be like like, you.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Know, I got to try to get something and everything,
because you.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Know, yeah I was there would be a Mickey mouse
off on camera with a gun on my head, like
I dare you to say something? Your children's children's children
will be paying that now?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Now, how many like how many of your close friends
who are into Marvel try to ask you about secrets
about Marvel?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know? It was funny because it was like, you know,
the delay was so long between when I got it
and filmed it and then it came out, and people
would be like, well, what's your character? She like they
learn a hero? And I'd be like like I can't say, like,
but what what happens with Reeby? Or I'd go online
and I see people tweeting stuff like I heard that

(22:18):
was obviously really funny because it would be like people
really dead wrong, they said that Robert Downey Jr. Is
gonna be in it and actually he's the star, and
we'd be like wow, like nope, he's not here.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
I ain't gonna home. I was one of those people
because all right, now, let me explain why. All right,
because Robert Downey Jr. Showed mad love for real, right,
and I was like, all right, I understand. You know,
it's iron Man, the new iron Man, you know, replacement
kind of sort of. But I was like, Robert Downey Jr.
Ain't never really been this involved in like promo and support.

(22:51):
And I was like, all right, I think he's gonna
pop up somehow. I started making theories. I'm like, all right,
so I say, I'm like, all right, she gonna really
need something gonna happen to her suit and then she
like Robert Donny Jorge is really going to come. I
started reading the comics more like all right, so I
know he's the AI in this one. It was like,
but you know that to me, that's being a geek

(23:12):
and being a nerd. Is that's my love for a
lot of this stuff. You know, it's like seeing how
it get portrayed on the big screen and then then
being able to theorize how these things are going to happen.
Because the way I approach the MCU is I approach
it like a comic book run. And I tell people
all the time, this is the best way for you
to experience the MCU, because a lot of people wanted

(23:33):
to be one v one like, they wanted to be
exactly like the comics, and I'm like, it can't be,
because I said, when you look at the like even
the origin of like iron Man, there's different people writers
who wrote, like you know, the story, there's certain things
that are cannon that has to happen, but there's also
this is everybody's interpretation. There's a different story for Batman,
a different story for Superman. There's like five different Superman

(23:55):
stories from origin to now, right, So when I look
at the MCU, I said, these are this is Kevin
Feig's run. This is his comic book run, his whole
overarching art. So there's certain things that needs to happen,
but there's also he should have the creative liberty, and
that to me, that's where I have the most fun
being able to enjoy these things. But then also like
breaking it down because like I said, with Clown, I

(24:15):
didn't know too much of the character. So when I
got to see the character, all right, let me see
what else is known about this character. And I love
that you are really laying the groundwork for more history
of this character. And to me, I think that that
is going to be you know, I hope that he
does explore your character more because that is going to
be the big. Big thing about it is that that
there's so many lyrics of this character, that that even

(24:37):
in that series, you gave us a lot, but that
it left us wanting more. We want more from Clown.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah. No, I think it's it's kind of like when
you read a book and then you go see the
movie about the book, Like it can't be a one
on one because you know, that's just a completely different medium.
And I could love it, like I I it would
obviously I would love to play more parts as MCU.
But if in like a decade, somebody else was to
be like, oh, here's another version of Clown, that would

(25:06):
be like. Because I'm like a fan, I watched Like
the Different Like like I know we are in Marvel
and all hell to Marvel, but I've watched like Different
Batman's and like the most recent Superman and even within
the MCU, like seeing like what we redid with like
Iron Man. I think that's what's cool about comic books. Like,

(25:27):
as someone who's not one hundred percent, I'm not going
to pretend like I'm comic book hot, but I think
it's like interesting to see like how they'll be this
version this character is, oh, like Wolverine, like the different
like how there was like Logan and then there's other
Wolverine and the X Men and like all these versions
of this character where you can put these like this
this world or even like in Star Wars where it's

(25:50):
like like one of my favorite shows is and or
oh yeah, man, I yeah. When people would ask me
what our show is, like I would mention and or
because I feel like our show people would be like,
oh you were tight? Are you wearing capes? And it's
like no one. I mean there is a cape, but
no one. It's not like it's not like uh like
the similar Like it's not like Avengers exactly, Like we

(26:12):
don't have like a thor there's magical realism, but there's
no one who's like everyone's power is garned from somewhere
like Wei's powers from her, like her brain and her
ability to create things. And then the hood got like
made this deal with the devil and now he has
this cape and without the cape, it's nothing, and like
my character, it's like chemistry and all these things. And
it's also like so it's in the world of the

(26:34):
MCU obviously, but it's like very different. I think, more
like in a way grounded in like the world than
it is like as fantastical as like.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
But again that's a lot of those are especially in
the show range. A lot of those are the best shows.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
But when Marvel was cooking with you know, Dared Devil
and Blue Cage and Yasaka Jones, like those were more
grounded level. Now granted, you know, their devil did have
a suit and everything like that, but it was still
more grounded and everything where it's kind of like, yo,
we kind of liked these stories too, and I think
that there's a world where all of it can exist,
you know. And I do also love how like they

(27:16):
they made that show feel feel very Chicago. I'm from Milwaukee,
so we are. I'm a Midwest kid and I'm at
Chicago all the time. And I said, man, this is
this feels like Chicago, And to me a lot of
the times when I look at a lot of these
superhero shows and properties, certain places, certain shows, the city

(27:37):
needs to be a character itself, right, Like you know,
when I think about Batman, got theam needs to be
got them, like, you know, it needs to let me
know that this is a scary place, right. And reading
the comic book about Ironheart and understanding that character and
her and what Chicago means to that character is like, oh,
you need this prevalent in the show. So it made

(27:59):
that kind of like it really made the show feel
like it was what it was, like, this dope show,
but it was like it's its own show, like it's
it can go with the overarching story, but it doesn't
have to. Everything doesn't have to connect. We can get
lost in this world. And it's kind of mirrors what
Black Panther did for us as well, because in Black Panther,

(28:19):
Wakanda has its own like you can tell the story
of Black Panther without having to know about anything else
that's going on in the MCU because Wakanda is such
a big character and what's going on with Black Panther.
I feel like this fits right in that mode and
I love it so much because you guys gave one
for this Midwest kid. I'm like, yo, look at us.

(28:39):
You know what I'm saying. That's again that show was
so unapologetically black. It was so many tropes, from the
family aspect, to the friendships, to the characters like you guys, man,
you guys did y'all big one with that one. I
ain't gonna like, I gotta let you guys know that.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
No, it means a lot because like Sam Bailey, the
director for the first three episodes, she's from Chicago, and
like you know, if you you living in Milwaukee, you
know that if you meet somebody from Chicago, they are
Chicago down to the toils. It don't matter if you
meet them in Antarctica or la they are in Chicago down.
So like a lot of thought and even like set design,

(29:19):
like for example, the bar that we were, the pizza
place that we had that was all created from a
set like that was a whole set and to see
to walk in and see the attention of detail. Here's
a bear sticker, here's a cubsti or white sauce that
and yeah, to me, like you said, with Gossam or
like Atlanta, like the show Atlanta. How that is like

(29:41):
everyone from there is influenced by the location, and the
location is like a character in the show. So yeah,
it was like important that it was like Chicago. It
was important that it was also like black and brown
and queer like that. It felt like these are people
that you would actually meet, but they happened to live
in this world where like powers and mismatics.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I mean, what the were talking about here Fridays we
are talking a brand new show bringing you hilarious commentary
about black characters like Goofy in the whole the whole game.
We all know that black They've been nigga. You said,
Pete Black, he unkleed rutkis Yeah, p Black of the
cartoon intro Dark Queen Up. Nobody gonna join you with Oh, y'all,

(30:25):
you gotta have anime Drip and our adventure. What I'm
talking about it I want to be able to have
my polls just like I want to throw it in
there game nights. I feel like Twister is gonna get
people in some positions that they don't need to be on.
That's an hr nightmares. It's a lawsuit video games would
have to be a two K Hey sometimes sometimes two

(30:46):
K Man and more. Brought to you by Geek Set
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only on I mean what we talked about, I want
to dive into a little bit deeper, more into like
just in general you and everything like that, right, because

(31:07):
I know that you know you're a writer. You know
you got to write on a Black Lady's sketch show,
a show that listen here. I love that show so much.
I was like, that show was such a big show
for me because I love sketch comedy and I just
remember when I watched that first episode, I said, oh,
this is about to be fire. And in that cast

(31:28):
was just such an amazing cast. It was just filled
with so much creativity and so much talent. What was
it like writing on the show like that?

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I learned a lot.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
It was the first time I'd ever been in a
room with like all black women. You know, at most
I've been with like one other black writer in a
writer's room, So that was really amazing. So many people
are so much talent, Like it was interesting because everyone
had their different skills. We pitched, you know, sketches and
stuff like that, and then it would be like interesting
to see like, oh, this type of person come their

(32:01):
brain works like this, and this person their brain works
like that, and then watching it later. That was honestly
one of the crazy because when you write for like
an episodic show a lot it changes so much because
it's also much more collaborative. Like by the time you
go off and write your episode that you're assigned, it's

(32:24):
it's already a lot of people's other ideas, and then
you write your script and then between then and when
it goes through the studio and then when it gets
on set and then the actors in this and the
editing so much has changed, whereas the sketch show, I
would literally watch like Gabrielle Dennis say like something I wrote,
and I was like, oh my god, it's crazy, Like

(32:44):
it was so yeah, that was really cool. And yeah,
the experience of being like with all these black women
in the room and being like wow, like we're all here,
because you know, it's it can be hard like to
be in this industry for anybody, but definitely as a
black woman.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Right, So now that gives me again, I'm a theory
type of guy. So so I always had this thought
process that the black the Black Lady Courtroom song came
from the writer's room, that was like something that y'all
would chant because it was all black women writers. Is
that where that came from?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Oh? They did, That's so I worked on season three
and I think they came up with that with one
or two. So I don't know, But honestly, I don't.
I feel like if that if it wasn't in the
writer's room, it was on set, because I think there
was a lot of play to where it was like, oh,
like this is the really because when we were in
the room, we would like pitch around ideas and then
things would come and then you'd later see and like,
oh that made it into the cut. So I'm sure

(33:36):
I don't know. I'll find out for you though, right because.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Again that even with the even the premise of that
like the Black Lady Sketch Show, and then when you
peel back the layers and see that it is a
black writers room and then you know it ran by
you know, Robin and everything, you're like, oh, this to me, again,
this is really really dope. Like it was, it was
just a really dope package thing. You know. I hate that,
you know it was canceled and everything like that, but

(34:03):
you know, it's one of those things that it's still
it ran for a long enough time where it's it's
a perfect package. It's one of you know, it's kind
of like the Boondogs before season four, it was like
this is this is like this is perfect, this is
everything that we kind of wanted and everything like that.
And I know that, like I said, your writer aspiration

(34:24):
and goals. I know that you cite like people like MICHAELA.
Cole and Isa and what they did and it's kind of,
you know, a goal for you to kind of get
to where you can write your own project and everything
like that. I just want to know that, you know,
not without giving anything away or anything, because I know
things are usually you know, you know, uh close close, nip.
But have you been you know, getting closer to that goal?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (34:47):
I guess how where we're at on our vision board.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
No, I do feel like I'm getting closer. I feel
like for me, honestly, writing was the hardest thing I've
had to do because with stand up I've been trying
to be a funny person in my whole life, Like
that's how I got through my childhood. And then with
acting that kind of felt like performing it just felt like,
you know, it all was intuitive and it made sense
and that I could I knew how to get better,

(35:15):
whereas like writing was really really hard. It's so solitary,
you're just sitting in the room, you're coming up with ideas.
You have to figure out your own process. So yeah,
so I feel like I've been making really great strides
doing that, and you know, every my answer I can
give you is that I'm working towards it and it's

(35:36):
still a thousand percent of goal of mine. Like because
my first experience, like real experience on camera, I was
working with Sam Bailey and flatting my odd guard and
show on this website is called Brown Girls, and I remember, Yeah,
it made a really big inprint on me because it
was like, Oh, everyone here knows each other some kind
of way, and we're all this is all labor of love.

(35:57):
And it felt the same way in Ironheart, like it
was like, oh, when you can get the homies and
then make something and then like meet other people who
are like minded, I think that's what Beyonce's brilliant is like,
she may not be able to play the drums, but
she knows how that drum needs to look. Ye, she
can convey that idea to you. So it's like my goal.
My dream is to one day, obviously, like Lisa and

(36:18):
Mikaela and Donald, is to be able to like get
on set and be like, all right, here's the vision.
And then then it changes too, because once you start
off with your collaborators will be like, actually you should
look like this, and should looks like that. I also
want to get into directing too, So yeah, let's still
go slowly.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I see it for you so much because you know,
even when you was hosting the I think it was
called The After After Party, right, you got to see
your characteristic like who you are, your personality right, And
I know a lot of those shows is used with
like an extension of their personality, like you know, Awkward
Black Girl was an extension of Asa. You know, Abbott

(36:57):
is an extension of you know, Quinta, and it's like
start seeing you know, you know, Orlanda's the extension of Donald.
And I'm like, with what you've given us, you know,
with your comedy, with your hosting, it's like Ooh, I
definitely want to see more of what you can bring if, like,
if your brain child in a show packaged together. It's
like you have a lot of supporters like like us

(37:20):
that are like, yo, we want to see more from
her and what she's going to bring to this game
and everything real quick. You said that your first writing
experience and stuff like that was with Brown Girls.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
No, no, no, that was my first acting on camera, like, uh,
like a lead role. Yeah, I didn't write No Fatima
ro Sam created.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
So your first acting was an Emmy nominated like that
that had that had to be a real boost confidence
for you.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
No, it was like I done acting here and there,
taking classes. I'd like been I don't even think I'd
done something small on like a Hollywood level at all,
but it was. It was when we did Brown Girls,
it was kind of like the same thing. We were
just like, we love this, this is so fun. And
then it was two weeks in Chicago and then we thought,

(38:13):
you know what, Chicago will love it. That'll be the
highest peak would be like if we if our community
could be like, wow, we love this. It's a love
letter Chicago. We receive it. And then the I remember
the day it came out, it was like February something,
and it was trending on Twitter that night because there's
like watch parties all over the world honestly, and then
and later have it be like, you know, mentioning all

(38:36):
these magazines, HBO show interest in it, and then Emmy nominated.
It was like, oh, what we made for like fifty
thousand dollars like with the Homies. Oh yeah, no that yeah, yeah,
it definitely. It gave me a lot of confidences because
my actual first time on camera period, like I did
this thing called the forty eight hour Film Festival. I

(38:57):
don't know if you've ever heard of it.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, my brother actually he's working on some stuff. I
think they still do stuff like that, my brother. So,
my brother, who handles most of the visuals for our
general podcast and everything that we do, he's really, you know,
a film nerd and everything like that. So he enters
all these competitions and things like that to hone his skills.
And I think that that's what it sounds familiar. It
definitely sounds familiar.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, I so I did it. I got all this
and I didn't know the role. So the person that's
forty the people a forty hours to make a movie,
so day won they send you the script like late
at night, and I was chugging coffee. I was really nervous.
I had I was a waitress. I had like three lines,
but I was taking it too serious, like I the
next day I showed up on set, I was fatigued.

(39:41):
I was like still chugging coffee, and I just it
was also like we had a genre and it was
like film noir, and I was trying to do an accent,
like I was trying to do too much. And then
the person I was fin the scene with was like, so,
did you go to school for like Meisner or did
you Like he's asked me about Checkov and I'm like,
I'm a proud I'm a fraud and fraud and I
started raling and I could not say those three lines.

(40:02):
And the sun is setting on the second day and
they have forty eight hours to film this and they're
stuck on my scene. It was like, oh god, yeah,
it was like one of the worst is but to
like then later go on and just do it and
like have fun and then have it be well received,
like it was like yeah, So it was a full
circle moment with me with Brown Girls too, I was like, Oh,

(40:24):
I can do this. It's really fun, like because yeah,
the first experienced No, I hope the god that they
burned that film. I don't know what happened to after.
I never watched it. I know I did that.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
You know it's going to circle back. They're gonna be
like Marble's featuring Marvels.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Right right right, they be like wow, Wow, I'm a
how she got this? So I'm like hostey recovered. They
barely made it at forty eight hours. They had the
slide at forty six because I took like thirty other
hours trying to say three lines.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
So with my platform, I've been fortunate enough to interview
a lot of comedians, right, And one thing that I
learned is that, like, you know, a lot of people
have what they call a comedy OG. Now, I know
that Marlon Wayne's is your early influence, but who is
your comedy OG?

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Like by og, I know, OG means but like you
mean like somebody that mentored me, or you mean like
when I.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Looked up to mentor you put you on somebody? You know,
like who who would be considered your comedy OG?

Speaker 2 (41:25):
You know, Baron Vaughan. He's actually been really really kind
to me. I remember like when I first went to
there used to be this festival. Oh my god, I
forgot the festival. It used to be in Portland. Is
it starts with a B? That's crazy in my mind
is gone. But basically, like I remember when I the

(41:45):
first time I ever met like an agent was interested
in me based on that festival or no, it was
like people executives from CBS and ABC and I remember
seeing him and like telling him and he just sat
me down and like talked me through like you can
do this, you could do that, Like this is how
it is. It's how the industry and expectations. Like he's
always like and I think not just for me, for

(42:07):
multiple comics, been the person who you can come to
and talk to and just different comics. Honestly that from Chicago.
Like when I first started the scene, like Cameron Neston,
Zito and Adam it was like people who were in
the scene in Chicago who you you might not know now,
but like if you go to Chicago, they're like big
there because and they just gave me stage time or

(42:30):
like encouraged me to like you know, riff like they
even like being able to do the the riffing on
set and marvels that started in Chicago, Like I Chicago
honestly is like a OGD me because starting comedy there
was I think one of the best decisions I've ever made,
because it was like there was no pressure to be
good or it was for sure to be good for yourself.

(42:52):
But it wasn't like in LA and New York. I
think it's hard to start there because there's industry eyes.
You know, there's ages and managers who go to different shows.
Where Chicago like if you're doing it for the love,
there's no one there right to like, you know. And
then it's also very di y the whole city, like
whether you're a musician, after a writer, whatever, like you're
doing it yourself a lot of times, at least when

(43:12):
I started.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Well, you know, Chicago. Chicago is definitely always in the
conversation as being where the best comics come from. I mean,
you got d Ray Davis from there, Dion Cole from there,
a little real from there, Like there's a lot of
comedians that come from there and everything like that. So
I can definitely see that like that helping in regards
to that, and you know, you get to use your

(43:34):
comedy chops and so many things that you that you do.
I mean, you were in BoJack Horsemen, you were in
bird Girl, and these are shows that are all tongue
in cheek shows but hilarious and everything like that. Like
how is it getting into those type of voice voice
acting roles, like you know, being able to be ev
and bird Girl and knowing what that show is and

(43:55):
knowing it's a spin off of a show that's also
a spin off of a parody of a more serious show,
and then BoJack Horsemen of course that you know the
big Like how was being on those shows?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
No? Voice acting is so fun because you know, with acting,
you have to put on like a costume, you have
to go through hair and wardrobe that takes hours and hours,
whereas with voice acting, you kind of just get into
booth and then you know, there's like a screen where
you see the director and then there's a studio engineer
and then you kind of just get into these voices.
I really enjoy that, Like especially with Ivy, like they

(44:27):
kind of as we were going through they would be like, oh,
you do this, so let's like change that or like
try this for this voice. So it was a lot
of experimentation with BoJack Tuo. I was a huge fan
of the show. It's it's it's it's like it's like
a different muscle because there is so much of it.
It's just your voice, and you can hear yourself on

(44:48):
the headphones and you can kind of like explore different
like tones. Because that's also part of stand up too.
It's like I can deliver a joke a certain way
and another comedy would deliver it a certain way and
you might laugh depending on how my voice goes. And
so I've been experimenting with that too through my stand up.
So it was really cool to be able to like
get in the booths and do that and then to
watch it later and see what the animators did. It

(45:11):
was really amazing.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Oh no, that's that's dope. That's dope, all right. So
I got some fun topics before we get you out
of here that I always like to do, Right, So
the first thing, we call it geek set hypotheticals. Right,
this is the hypothetical situation. This is you zombie apocalypse,
robot apocalypse, or alien apocalypse? Which one do you believe
that you can survive the longest.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Wait, so zombie robot aliens. Yes, I think to survive
the longest. I think the Aliens because I think I
don't know if you ever saw the what was it
the three Ring problem? Yes, you know what I'm talking about. Okay,
So that's so when she would betrayed humanity, I don't
want to spoiler for anyone, just a spoiler, but when
she betrayed humanity and told the aliens to come, I

(45:54):
come to the aliens like, hey, hey, I don't know
if y'all seen our history, but humanity is not doing great.
I honestly, I am like me, I dropped off of
this one. I'm I feel like I'm lost. I'm like,
technically I'm one of y'all, So, like, which way is
the president? I've got to GPS right now, go get them?

(46:14):
Like I don't. So, yeah, I think I would. I
would use the gift the guys to get in good
with the aliens and try to like leave the gate
open for my friends and everybody else. I don't know,
I don't know the aliens yourself.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
To your defense, if you if we're using movies as
like as like the barometer of like Okay, this is
what we're measuring off of more alien movies. We came
out successful in zombie if you think, if you notice this,
in zombie movies, there's never no end. It's just really like,
right this, either our hero died or are like they

(46:47):
survive in another way, but the zombies are still coming.
In the Row Apocalypse, it gets too convoluted. There's really
never no whinner there but aliens. We've won a couple
of times against the aliens.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
So Terminator is bleak. Every time I've watched it, I'd
be like a lot of myself. I would I would
end it like he got it like I can't. But
or and but also there's like Independence Day. You see
how that went. So shout out to Will Smith.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Shout out to Will Smith. That's one of my favorite movie.
That's one of those movies that even if it comes
on T and T, I'm gonna watch it because, like
you know, so, I'm gonna watch it all the way through,
all right, So I gotta get some top five out
of you. Now are you? Are you a big Marvel?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Like?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Have you watched all of the Marvels.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
I've watched more of the Marvel movies.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yes, okay, top five Marvel projects for you.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Okay, I mentioned Logan earlier. I really love that the
X Men movie the most, the one with Forgive Me
for Not. I know the geeks are gonna be like
I got I got here, okay, but the movie that
had the one with the twins and the one twin

(47:59):
that runs really fast. Last, and then there's an elevator
scene where you see him. Yeah, so that one that
X Men. But I love X Men period. Yeah, the first, uh,
first one of the movies where Chris Pratt I Haven't slept,
Guardians of the first Guardians of the Galaxy, the first Deadpool,

(48:23):
and you know, I gotta do six, but like, honestly
bump one of my one out both Black Panther movies,
Like that's the first Black Panther movie. I remember going,
I never in my life has stood in front of
a poster and then the Wakanda and I like, I
was so proud. I want my parents went to see
the first Black Panther movie, which like is unheard of

(48:45):
for them to go to movies like that. I remember,
like the moment culturally speaking, was so impactful. And then
the second one I went and I like cried and
teared up, especially with the scenes with like Chadwick.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Before the movie even started, I said, why how would
you start this movie like this? I'm like, I'm it
was because it was silent, silent, and I was just like,
why would you do this? Why? I but you want
to know something funny about the first Black panther. So
the whole reason for our podcast. So our podcast is
called the geek Set Podcast. It's similar to dipset. Our

(49:19):
logo is the ego, but instead of holding money, they're
holding controllers and like we you know, man, we blend
geek culture. Right, That's the whole purpose of it, the
reason why we started this. So again I told you
I deep dive into comic book properties, movies and everything
like that. Like I'm the person when I watch a
comic book property, the first thing I do is I
go to like screen Crush watch their breakdown Easter eggs
that you missed. Then I go, you know, and then

(49:40):
I'd say, I'm I'm one of the first black narrators
on watch Mojo. So we get to do lists, you know,
top ten list and everything. So I'm like, let me
see what we what we're talking about, you know, so like,
I'm that person. Right. So, before I was working for
Watching Mojo and all that, I was listening to all
these podcasts breaking down when they announced Black Panther, right,
and the first if you remember, the first trailer for

(50:02):
Black Panther had Run the Jewels as the commercial like
Run the Jewels was outtrack to the commercial, and I
was like, Yo, nobody is talking about this homegrown, like
underground hip hop group being on the first you know,
shout out to Blade, but the first black Marvel superhero
on Disney. Like nobody is talking about this aspect of this.

(50:25):
And I said, That's what I want to talk about,
because hip hop and geek culture blends so well, but
nobody is talking about how dope this is. And I said,
I want to do a podcast talking about things like that,
cultural things, how you know, we talk about things, you know,
black people, but with that and so that was kind
of like where my whole birth of our podcast came from.

(50:46):
So that's why I love Black Panthers so much because
now out outside of the representation, it inspired me and
got me into doing what I'm doing now and everything
like that.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
So yeah, that's amazing. I think I was also too
like to just you know, when Black Panther came out
and even sinners like Ryan Coogler's whole run, it is
like you can put black people as the main you
can make this a black story and still have it
be relatable to everybody and more also have it be
like critically acclaimed, but also like blockbuster, like people will

(51:16):
pay money to see this. And yeah, I think Black
Panther had such an impact on so many people, so
much art, so it's cool to hear it now.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Now, did you get a chance to chop it up
with Ryan Coogler? Because I know that he's what not.
He didn't direct, but he's a producer on right, did
you get Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I met him at the the day we had the premiere,
So we had the screening and then we had a
party afterwards at the hotel across the streets. I met
him and his wife, who's also producer on the show,
and they were both incredibly kind, and I think I
geeked out too hard. I was like Black Panther, like,
how do you do it? He's like, get off me,

(51:54):
and I was like but yeah, yeah, And she was
so kind to she's pregnant, fully like they were both
like I'm just I'm just astounded by the amount of
like the work and the quality of it while they're
still like, you know, just kind now.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
As a as a stand up comedian. Uh my last
top five and then we can get you out of here.
Top five cities that you performed in.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Oh okay, let's see New York obviously, obviously, Chicago, obviously.
I some people it's contra this controversial people don't like.
Some people think the LA scene is questionable. But I
like LA because I feel like the you could random
end up in like a random outdoor show, like before

(52:40):
the pandemic happened, Like after pandemic there was more outdoor shows,
especially during the height of it. But in LA, I
would go and I'd be like, I'm on a random
like back person's porch or this, and like the energy Minnesota,
Minnesota is really fun, and I'll say DC. Yeah, that's

(53:01):
how I would like was like, grew up in the
DC area of Peach County. Shout out to anybody from Marlin,
uh but yeah, yeah, Like I think like DC crowds
are also like very black, and like there's there's like
an energy too. To me. Honestly, if I can perform
anywhere I would like time travel and go to like
the hide of Death Jam when like Bernie Matt was

(53:23):
killing d L and like where you would get a
laugh like you know you do like when you kill
as a stand up That's what we do it for.
That's why you go through Helen back is like the
crack of hidden like having a crowd like blow up,
but like watching death Jam and seeing people like throw
themselves on stage and like just be like dying laughing
to kill there I wish.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
But yeah, have you have you checked any of your
like your past like stand up comedian stand up clips,
because one thing that I always love, So i'm a
I'm a I love stand up comedy like I would
like say death Jam, comic view, Uh, this is not
happening when they was doing that or like I used
to love that, right, So I've seen some of your
sets before. So when you got announced, I was like,

(54:05):
oh shit, that's dope, right what I always love. Like
now when you go to it, you'll see one of
the top comments on the comments that be on there,
like who's here now after Iron hurt, right, and it'll
be so many people out here, So you I don't
know if.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
You notice Actually no, I haven't. Yeah, because I.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Got, you got a lot of people now checking back
like wait a minute, I didn't, and like I said,
you because you got, you got a few clips out
there that are like, you know, like fire. So it's
like there are people that's now discovering like wait, clown
actually does stand up's hilarious, Like wait, like so yeah,
that's that. I can see more people are probably going

(54:41):
to be tapping into your comedic side and everything like
that because of that very cool.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
No, I hadn't seen that. So sometimes you like the
comments and you're like, oh, I didn't know my face
did that like like what I would scroll and I'd
be like, oh, like you hear one like oh my god,
this girl is so funny. You were like, I am
so much and then next to us like women aren't
funny and she's part of that, You're like.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
No, trust me. When I got to watch Mojo Gig,
I was excited because you know, I don't know if
you watch any watch Mojo. Like I said, they're more
from They're from Canada and they so they have more
of a like a monotone voice, so they start off
like welcome to watch Mojo. But as you can see,
I'm very energetic, and so I come home like, welcome
to watch Mojo and that's they they over there, I

(55:25):
watch mojos. They loved me for they love the energy
that I bring. However, that crowd I had to leave
them comments alone because that was faking me apart.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
I'm like, whoa like not being happy about life? Your job?

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Well? I was, Yeah, I was trying to find a
way to work in somewhere but I couldn't figure it out.
But do you ever feel like Soldier boy, where you
were like I was the first to do this because
you had a whole streaming site before streaming was streaming, Like.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Wow, you really deep?

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Yeah? When I heard, I was like wait what. I
was like, you know what I'm saying, And it was
like the streaming is all today right now. It's like
do you ever feel like, hey, man.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I pioneered you know what. No other people were doing
it too. It was like just at the cuss before
like Naster and popped in and then when left. But yeah,
like I was like, that's what my parents were convinced,
Oh she's going to be a computer scientist. Ya da
da dah. But I was just like, I just wanted
some money. My parents were being like, you gotta work
for it, and it was like, okay, Wendy's or I
can illegally do this shit. And then they caught up

(56:31):
with to me and they were like this is illegal,
and I was like, yikes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I was the bootleg man for ones. Like I said,
I said, if I ever meet jay Z, I gotta
think them because I sold so many bootlegs the Blueprint out, yeah,
and because I was so tapped into music, like I
was like, I'm the word that like I buy mixtapes.
I was like I used to get the Mac DVDs
and everything like that. So like I'll have like seven

(56:58):
actual tracks from the Blueprint, but then it'd be like
seven unreleased jay Z tracks that I know that people
in Milwaukee hasn't heard.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I throw it upon there.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Selling you know what I'm saying five dollars a while.
I was selling so many Blueprint albums and I was like,
all right, if I e hear me jay Z, I
gotta apologize, but also thank you. Yeah got me through
high school.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Right. Jay Z is a billionaire, so maybe he owes
you honestly, all right.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
You know, I want to say again, man, thank you
so much for your time. You know, you got a
huge fan in me and in my podcast. We support
everything that you are doing, and we're going to continue
to support your endeavors. I'm calling it, like I said,
you're about to get your show within the next five
years easily, like I'm calling it, and we're going to
be watching it and we're going to review it here

(57:43):
two and we're going to talk about it. But I
just want to say thank you for your time, thank
you for being an amazing guest, and thank you for
everything that you are giving to this geek space that
we truly truly appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Thank you so much for having me and all the
kind words. I really appreciate it. And YO shut out
to you and this hod like it's really really amazing.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
No, I appreciate it. And as always, this is the
only podcast that blad hip hop coaching and geek coaching together.
I'm your boy, duces. This has been the amazing, amazing
song you Denny, and we are our beast

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