Zaynah Bear talks her content, authenticity, her story & more | S8 E2 | 1 on 1's w/Deuces - 1-on-1's w/Deuces

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Let me choose your character.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Sight.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
All right, all right, welcome back to the geek Set
podcast only podcasts that blending hip hop coachure and geek
coachure together. I'm your boy, Duces and this is one
on one with Deuces, the place where I speak with creators,
curators and people that.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
You should know.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
And right now we have somebody that I guess throughout
my whole podcast career, I have been champion. I have
been talking about somebody whose content is just the most
wholesome content that.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
You can think of.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Somebody who is a creator, a dancer, somebody who is
just putting out positivity. But we have Madam's A aka
Zaya Bear. How are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I'm great, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
No, I'm so I'm so excited.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
So you know, we like to call ourselves the reporters
of the culture here at geek Set, right, and so
we like to let, you know, share the positivity and
let people know about like the creators and just people
that are doing dope things in this space. And one
of the things that attracted me to your content, and
I wanted to get your insight on that is that
you know, we live in a world where people have

(01:36):
to always do what like they call like the fake
it till you make it, or people always got to
put on like how they are on social media versus
how they are in real life, and your content comes
across as so authentic, it's so just you. And I
love that you get to walk in the walk in
who you are and people are loving it and accepting
it and finding that as you know, a little piece
of love for themselves. And I wanted to know for

(01:57):
somebody in this world knowing how social media is, how
comforting is it that you get to be yourself and
also people get to find joy in it.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's a little bit surreal because it's definitely like I'm
definitely doing the things that people would think are cringey,
and I'm stuff that I'm too shy to do in
person in real life. So it was shocking to me
to find out how much people like rocked with it,
Like y'all actually like this.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Because you know it is that because you know when
the way this is how I look at it right
in real life, a lot of us what we do,
like at the crib, we.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Singing, were doing weird dances, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
We making funny voices, but a lot of us are
scared to put that out in the world. So when
we see somebody that's so fearless like yourself that it's
doing it, and I know that you had a journey
to get there, but the scene that and being able
to be like yeah, and then also seeing the comments
to so many people.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Like us who love it.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I think that that's why we all attract to it,
because it's like, yo, I do this all the time. Yeah,
I might be walking around the crib singing. You know
one of the things I always do. I always do
the crust of the crab pieza, so on listen. I will
break that out at any given time and do the
whole crust that cray like I do the whole thing,
because because you know, that's what we do. So it's like,

(03:27):
we love to see you do it at such a
and you look like you you're genuinely having fun doing
these videos.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'm glad it looks that way because I'll be stressed
the hell out trying to film these Nadia. I feel like, dang,
my head didn't turn the right way. I need to
do that. I don't like the angle. I gotta do
it again each Clippers like film twenty plus times.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
But I feel like that's also comes with being a perfectionist,
Like yeah, yeah, once you get into you know, like
you know what your content is going to be, then
you become a perfectionist and then you're you know, sometimes
you get hype overly critical of it and everything like that.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
So I don't I don't.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
I don't equate that to like, like to like you're
not liking your content. I just feel like you just
always want it to be perfect, you know in your eyes.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, they're like, oh, I bet you were, like I
bet you had so much fun filming us and you
were laughing the whole time, Like absolutely not. I had
an extremely straight face reviewing each clip. I just wanted
it to be good.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
So I do want to take it back some because
I know that we we so we kind of share
a similar story where you worked at a call center
and customer service and you was like, all right, I
gotta get a bout of there, and then you became
a fire bender, which is which is most was the
most How long was you a firebender?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Firebender is hilarious, but I was I was only doing
fire dance for a couple of months, okay, but I
worked with that company for a while on and off.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
And how was that experience?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
I guess, like because I know that you're trained in
ballet and dance and so, but going into dealing with
you know, twirling fire and everything.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, And I mean I also haven't taken like classical
dance classes since high school. I grew up doing ballet,
but I didn't just like continue doing that. And I'm
I'm about to be thirty in two weeks. So yeah,
so it's like I went, dang, when did I start
the fire dancing. I think I was like twenty five,

(05:40):
so I was already like six years out of Actually no,
I think I went like nine years completely not dancing,
not doing any kind of like exercise or anything. So
jumping back into fire dancing, like taking my toe dip
back into dancing period was definitely challenging.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, but you know, I have to remember.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
How to dance and now I'm doing it with fire.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
That's those that's those side quests.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Like I said, I often put like the walk of
people's life into like video game terms and everything like that,
and that was that's definitely a random side quest that
it's still is in line with the main story, but
it's like, Okay, yeah I'm doing I'm.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Toiling fire down, you know, yeah, but that's that to me.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I look at that like that's also one of those
dope things because like me researching who you are, I
learned that you are a Swiss army knife of talent
in multiple in multiple forms, and so it's just like
like when I was when I read that and or
I heard you talk about that, I was like, of
course she she knows how to twirl fire, like of
course she does.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Like this tracks so well.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I wouldn't say I ever got good at it, but
I only had a couple of lessons before I started
doing gigs. So I'm just like, well, as long as
I in this gig without burning myself, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
So what was the last straw?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I guess with the call center, so like, you know,
because you know, I know for me, after a while,
I was like, you know, I really I'm half in
half with this content. Like I do these interviews and
I really enjoyed doing it, but I was like, I
need to get to a point where I put a
maximum effort in it and see where it can go.
So that was kind of like my introduction of leaving

(07:22):
the call center and then going content. For you, what
was that moment for you?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, well, I left the call center like a year
before I started doing content. The content wasn't even thought
of yet at that time. But it was like in
the height, during the height of the pandemic, and I
was too good at my job. So I wound up
having like double the call volume then the rest of

(07:50):
my team because I guess I got through my calls quickly,
so they just sent me all of them. So my
teammates would get be having like fifteen minute breaks in
between their calls. I would have a call two seconds
after I just ended the last one. So I told
my boss that I was overwhelmed and I was so

(08:13):
stressed out that I was throwing up. And then like
a couple of weeks later, she's like, okay, so we're
going to train you to take on more responsibility. And
they didn't say anything about my pay changing.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
So I was like I quit, you know, cause you
know call centers, they have a tendency of doing that.
It's like like, listen, I worked at a call center
for fifteen years. I was a coach, so I had
a team, and at that point I was just like this,
this is getting on.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I won.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I got tired of telling grown ups that, hey, you
can't take you can't come back fifteen minutes when your
break every time, and then two listen here. If I
hear anybody say anything about after call work or average
handle time again, I would lose my mind, Like I
used to hate those terms so much in call centers.
And so I got pe TSD from the Microsoft Teams notification.

(09:02):
Sound like I don't want to hear that. Like call
centers have a tendency of like the little mundane things
but then also adding more things on it.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
So I'm glad you got about there.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Listen there, I'm a I'm an advocate of get about
them calls Internet.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, so I just wanted to like I wasn't going
to get an I didn't want to get another job yet.
I did get one more full time job after that,
but it was like way later. But right after the
call center, I just started picking up money wherever I
could find it. So a bunch of side hustles to
make one income. So I was modeling, like I was

(09:42):
modeling crochet hair and wigs. I was doing the fire dancing.
I was also teaching English online. I was also like
giving out lemonade samples as a brand ambassador. I was
also like banquet serving at the Georgia Aquarium. I was
just whoever wants to pay me, I'll I'm willing to

(10:05):
take where. I was also doing graphic design. I was
doing a lot of different shit.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I do graphic design as well.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
If everything that's on my page and with my interviews
and everything, that's all me and everything, So I trust me,
I understand that.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
So was that also when you did the music video.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I saw that you had did a music video where
you were saying you was the girl that got cheated on.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Oh yeah, No, that was when I was fresh out
of high school.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Okay, okay, So that was right.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Before I started college because I took a semester off
to see if I could like pop off real quick
and follow my dreams. And I was like, wow, this
takes a long time. Let me just go ahead and
go to college, right. So I finished my degree early
so I could be on time with the rest of
my class that started on time.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Nice. Nice, nice nice. You know.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
So the Hotel Transylvania video that was kind of like
your grand open into the world. That was the one
that caught fire right, No, oh, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
That was like two years into uh doing content creation.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
But so I got that wrong.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Okay, So what was the first video that really like
took off for you?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I mean, there there were a few. I guess my
most viral video to this date was within like I
think the first two months of me making videos, and
that was I was dancing to wipe me down and
my butt accidentally clapped and I was like, excuse.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Me, I forgot about that one.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I think it was like that was within the
first two months of me making videos. So I wound
up getting a following damn near immediately.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Well that goes into you know, one of my other
questions is because like, so within your content, what I
really what I noticed and also what I do like
about it is that like you do have like you're jumping,
it's kind of like your Martin and Jamie Fox bag
where you do have characters like you have Rico. I
mean obviously that character as you're talking about, I don't
know if that was the start of that character, but
you also have missy AM's that we don't talk about

(12:14):
and I'm calling Muscle Mammy a character as well. And
I was wondering, have you ever thought about doing like
any type of content where it's like with like giving
these giving these characters, you know, storylines and arts and
everything like that.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, that was where my like, I feel weird calling
the fans, but my initial fan base was for Rico
and his brother Raymond. So like that was at the
time where I was like developing character personalities and stuff,
and then later on I started doing the cartoon stuff

(12:49):
and that popped off even more. So I just wound
up sticking with that because I didn't feel like drawing
on a beard. It's a lot of work. But people
have been asking me to bring Rico back, So I
I did just a couple videos ago with the live
and Leavita loga thing. I'm like, okay, we can have

(13:09):
a band. So I'm really incorporate my characters back in.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, so I guess with the with the cartoon. With
the cartoon videos, when because I say, I know you,
like everybody, you have that moment where something gets popular
that she was like, oh, I didn't really know what
that was going to do. But then you have that
second awakening, that moment where you realized that, Okay, this
is actually lightning in a bottle, and I'm like, I
can start fine tuning this and getting better at you

(13:35):
know what I'm saying with this type of content. When
when did you have that moment in your mind about
like the especially specifically the cartoon videos, that this is
you know what I'm saying, where I'm going to go.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Right before that first Hotel Transylvania video in the striped paint,
well that was the second one, actually the one, the
second one in the striped pants did a lot better
than the first one. But that came about because I
was already doing the videos in like the cartoon dance
style and I've never seen Hotel Transylvania, but people kept commenting, like,

(14:10):
you move just like the characters in Hotel Transylvania. I
had Phineas and Ferb in my mind, Hotel Transylvania is
low key like the next generation, but everyone kept saying it.
So I'm like, okay, I'll look at some of the
moves from this movie then and then do a side
by side. And so I wound up like sticking with

(14:30):
the side by side videos for a while and then
those fell off, so I just went back to just
dancing as myself in the cartoonish style and people still
like that one. So I'm staying with that for now
and see if something else pops off, and then I'll
go with that. I done changed my content style a
good three four times since I started.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Because it's ever evolving, and you know that's what I like,
you know, because in this world today, a lot of
people think that, like consecreation is just put your camera
up and then do whatever trend is right like like
you know, but you know, the creators that are actually
successful are the ones who actually take that time to understand, like, Okay,
it's not just putting that camera up, it's also, yeah,

(15:13):
if this is going to evolve into this, how do
I incorporate what I'm doing into that where it's not
going to be unauthentic? You know, like you said, and
that that's again with your content being so authentic to
who you are, and it's one of those things where
it's like, oh, yeah, you know, if this is how
the video aesthetic is looking, now, yeah, how can I
transfer what I'm doing into that? So you know, when

(15:35):
you're doing the split screen, it made sense now you're
doing the solo. But what I love about that the
most is that it's still focused on you, right, And
I think that's the big part about content creation and
where it's like we can get into a cycle of
trying to just chase the trends, but then we get
lost in our identity and who we are. And so
I feel like, you know, with your content, you're not

(15:56):
faced with that. And then even with it, even with
it being collaborative with other you know, other celebrities and
other big names, it's other celebrities saying hey, hey.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I want to I want you to do you but with.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Me, and and I love that for you, and I
love that for just even just the culture of content
creation because there is a there could be a negative
cloud over it, and I feel like you are a
positive light and showing a positive way to do this.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Do you feel that that's great?

Speaker 2 (16:25):
You know?

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Because and and that's the that's what That's one one
of the things that I like to highlight because, like
I said, you did have some big names reached out
to you. You know, Glorilla brought you out for the music video.
I know that you're a big fan of keV on
stage shout out to Kevi on stage and Kevin on
stage at the video.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, and that was so cool, and.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
So you know, it's like, you know, when I think
about things like that, I was like, was that your
most shocking collab work with keV or was it the
glorial I guess what was your most shocking collaud.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
It was definitely Glorilla because I've been like hoping to
collab with keV on stage because we interact on social
media a lot. But with Glorilla, it was just random
because it's like, I don't really have a relationship with
her at all, like not online friends or anything. She's

(17:14):
retweeted some of my videos, but like a lot of
celebrities have liked or retweeted something that I posted and
it doesn't usually mean anything. So when she asked me
to come out to do the music video and do
the dance that I did in the TikTok, I.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Was like, and then I love the story that you
told me because you said that you know, yeah, of
course you know this is Gloilla, Mega Superstar at this point,
so you know, you had you know, jitters, you know,
you were a little bit nervous, and she gave you
that pep talk. But yeah, prior to her giving you
the pep talk, when you first got like when it

(17:48):
became reality that.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
You were going to be working with Gloilla in her
music video. Who was the first person you told?

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I don't remember because I didn't want to tell anybody
until I got the address to the shoot, just in
case they're like, actually, never mind, fuck you. So I know,
I told my boyfriend and my two best friends. I
don't know which one of them I told first. It

(18:19):
was actually no, I'm pretty sure I called my I
texted my best friends, and I called my boyfriend, so
they all wound up finding out about the same time.
And then I got on FaceTime with my friends, like,
okay's this eute? Do I look poor?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Just immediately get it into your head. But but you
for the for the culture.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
I want to let you know, for the culture, and
for us fans of you. That felt like such a
big win for you and the culture because we were
just like one when you did the video. It was
already the video already itself was fired. Then like it
was like it was like a it was like a
just like stairs. It was like the video is fired.

(19:04):
Then Gorilla posted. It was like, oh, snap, she's seen it,
because you know, of course everybody we tagging her.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
We let her know, like you need to see this,
you need to see this.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
And when you popped up in the video, I think
that that that first second of you in the video
got posted so much because we was just so excited
because we knew how much it won. It meant to
somebody of like a creator of your of your stature,
but also again just to be able to see like
you often hear that that phrase man, they let the

(19:34):
right one get famous. We was like, that's the right
one right there, like we was. That was so that
was so fired. That was that was really yeah when
it so, I know can say you did Like I said,
you're trained in ballet and you do dance as well.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Have you ever thought about going the route of, you know, like.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
A choreographer, you know, for like music videos or just
dance or anything of that nature.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
I don't think I have the skill set for that really,
you know.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I feel like you, I feel like you have the
basis of it, and I'm not for sure how how
how deep you are and dance, because I know a
lot of it is more so gymnast gymnastics in ballet.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
But I've never done gymnastics.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
You didn't, now, oh so okay, So now now I
got questions because I always I always assume with the
with the pole training that came from gymnastics.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
No, it came from ballet.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Oh okay. That that blew my mind.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
So this is so I'm gonna let you know that
I'm a dance dad and my daughter is like, she's
doing tap and my other daughter's doing tap, and we're
doing they're they're doing ballet. But I know that they
want to get into hip hop and everything like that.
But that's like, this is where I'm at. I know
about tap, I know about uh, I know about what's

(20:56):
the other one, jazz and hip hop, but I didn't
know that that.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Led until that. Okay, So then that that, Yeah, I mean, it.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Doesn't necessarily lead into it, but it helps, like having
the flexibility and the strength already before you start poll classes,
it helps and it makes your lines look better.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Right But no, yeah, definitely, yeah, you be killing it
on there because you know, when I when I look
at like pole dancing and pole training in regards to that,
it's the upper core strength that that is heavily impressive, right,
So I know that, Like you know, another part of
your content is like people always having you do like
those challenges, like like you did that baky one and

(21:34):
when you win it, I was like, man, her upper
core strength is remarkable. And so it's like to me
when I look at like pole training and everything like that,
that's what I kind of equated to.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
But that's why I always thought it was.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
I always thought it was more so dance because you know,
obviously like when you see like those those pole performances,
it is more like dance base and everything like that
you start seeing you know how you know, people use
their body on there and everything. So that's why I
always equated it to more so choreography and not actually
like ballet. So that's I do apologize for confusing that.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, people think I'm a gymnast all the time, Like, no,
never done gymnastics. I cannot do a backflip. I can't
do a.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Flip at all.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
So then the evolution of that training and then going
to teaching, how like, I guess how did that evolution start?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Well, it was an accident because I just contacted a
pole studio just curious. Well, first off, I took Pole
classes for about a year, and then I contacted did

(22:50):
a Pole studio like, hey, you know, what's if I
want to be if I want to teach at the studio, Like,
what's the process so I can prepare? And they're like, oh,
you want to start? When I was like, I said,
I mean if you think I'm ready, then sure. I
was just curious.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
And how's that been going and teaching?

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Oh, I mean it's been going well. Unfortunately, the studio
that I teach at is going to be closing down
at the end of the month because we just weren't
getting enough students. Yeah. So I've had a lot of
classes get canceled, you know, due to low sign ups.
But outside of that, I really enjoyed teaching my classes.

(23:41):
It was kind of tricky to figure out which moves
are actually beginner because beginner to me means something different
than beginner to most people.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, they're trying to teach, like, okay, so just do this,
They're like wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
We don't yeah, because I've been what would be considered
freakishly strong for my entire life. So even as like
a ballet dancer. I just had more upper body strength
than everybody else.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Why, but you know that's that kind of became also
a part of your brand because like I often see
like if anybody, no matter what it seemed like, some
we'll see something online, somebody do something that is just
like remarkable strength. And you are one of the first
creators that a lot of people think of, because I'll
see your name tagged in a lot like do this,

(24:36):
Pols do this?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, they know you up next, and like that.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Ting me is the most impossible ship, Like what makes
you think to be like, oh, this should be easy
for you. And the challenge starts with a double backflip.
You've never seen me do a double backflip, but I'm
glad you're believe in me. Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
A pirouette with a double backflip into it into the split.
Definitely can do that.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
They're like, come on, it's easy, you do it.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
But you know, I think it's it's just like I said,
because you do make a lot of things look easy
when we like in hindsight, because you know, as an
anime lover myself and seeing that backy Poles, I would
like you had, you had a lot of people like, oh,
I can probably do that because you made it look
so easy, and a lot of a lot of people
fell on their face. A lot of people did because

(25:29):
it's not as easy as it looks, and everything.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
And knowing everything that you guys have built up their
geek set as well. Man, it deserves the spotlight to
be highlighted for this the incredible work that you guys
put in that helps and inspire others to feel comfortable
in their own skin about being fans of the things
that they genuinely care about.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
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Speaker 1 (25:52):
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Speaker 1 (26:49):
But I'm speaking with the one and only the Dean
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Speaker 3 (26:52):
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and now that's that's the easy part.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Hey, you have a really good voice for this.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
So but also another part of your Swiss army knife.
You are also an artist like you know you also
how and so? And I know you went to the
to the School of Arts. What was the school you
went to again?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Georgia State, Georgia State, Yes, or what are you talking about?
My high school?

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Either or because yeah, because you said you went through
the School of Arts from elementary.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, yeah, I went to Decab School of the Arts.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well you know with some with some
uh notable like Donald Glover went there, Baby Tait went there.
So it's like it's really no that is breeding such
creativity in regards to there with your art? Now, is
that more just a passion or is that something that
you want to do something bigger with?

Speaker 1 (27:44):
I guess I think.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
It used to be a passion before I went to
college for it, and then I just stopped forever. I
have been trying to get back into it though, because man,
I used to paint every day, but college may may
not like it anymore.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
So same with me with like graphic design and art.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I don't know what it is like.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I was doing it a lot for just the love
a lot of it because also when it came down
to the content that I was creating, I just like
I was broke. I was broke, and so I was like,
I gotta find ways to do this myself because I
can't pay people their proper rate, and so I.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Started learning things on my own. But I don't I don't.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Know if it's the I realized that I do graphic
design and art out of necessity because I don't have
the funds to pay somebody, Because if I could pay somebody,
I would just do it right. But I'm good at
it as well. But it's just like I realized that
I don't like the I don't like the details of it.
I don't like the history like I like. For me,

(28:49):
I did it the love of that like I have
for like hip hop and anime, where I want to
deep dive and learn more.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I didn't really really want to deep dive into art.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
And everything like that, and so that kind of like
deterred me from like really pursuing anything in the art
fields heavily. But when I look at your art, like
it's like it seems like you have a defining style
you had, like you know, like you know, like when
you did share the bit that you had and I
was wondering, like, do you have a like an art
style or is it just you know, freehand what moves you.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, I'm looking up at a portrait right now, but yeah,
I mean it's usually just freehand and whatever I want
to do. And I think that's what turned me off
of it because in college there was a lot of
planning and I don't like to plan my art. So
if they're like, oh, you got to turn in like

(29:43):
ten different sketches of three different ideas for this one painting,
I'm like, why can't I just paint it? What the
fuck is?

Speaker 3 (29:50):
That's exactly what I was like, because you know, at
the end of it was like like especially like when
they when you got to turn into You're like, they're like,
you got to turn in your process, right, So I
was like, I don't really have the elements of the process.
I kind of just went at it and I made
this like I think, show you like and then when
I when I was like, all right, I got the degree,
let me try to get some jobs, and it was
like portfolio.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
So I'm like, sure, I'm showing them finished worse. They're like, okay,
but where's the stuff. And I'm like, I don't have all.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
This is what I did, and so it's like it's like, yeah,
you were ungrateful.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Actually my process is I had a dream.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
I had a dream.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
So one big moment that that was this year, right, Yeah,
one big moment this year was you we was able
to ask a culture to get you to come to
dream cond and you had your first meet and greet,
and I want to talk about that experience, so one.
You know, I know that, like you said, you did
say that creating content and putting content out was kind

(30:54):
of like a form of therapy to kind of help
you out with you know, things that where you were
at in your life.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
And you know, you often say you know that you're
you know, you.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Identify as being shy, you know, you say that, you know,
so a meet and greet.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Especially at that at that level.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Where you were at, and so many people, you know,
love bombing on you and everything like that, I want
to get into, like one, how was that experience for
you at dream Con?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
It was so cool. I felt like a celebrity all
week and people were stopping me like every two minutes like,
oh my god, it's I can't take a picture. I
was like, stop the press it. But of course I
made sure to take a picture with anybody that asked.

(31:40):
It's like all the ones that got me here and
I'm happy to meet you, but it was it was
I'm just glad I charged up my social battery the
way I did before I went to dream Con because
by the end of it, I was like depleted. I
was like, get me out of here. But I last

(32:01):
I lasted until the very end.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
And that wasn't your first convention, was it.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Oh that was your first convention too. Oh so we
are well.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I mean I went to what is it, like Anime
con or something a couple of years ago, but that
was just because I was working the VR booth and
I needed some money, so I don't really count. But
my first time like actually going to the convention and
like going to the panels and experiencing a convention, yes,
it was dreaming con Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
No, and say, you know, we've been doing conventions.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
We've been covering them for as pressing the last year
we was as creators because we was doing we uh
moderated the Carl Jones booth, Martian Blueberry panel, and then
we did a panel last the year before that with
Kevin on stage and what was good and Pierre Steps.
So we started getting more into our content creation bag.
But I often tell you a lot of people about conventions,

(32:58):
it's like, yay, one is going to drain your social battery.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
One. You better have some good walking shoes because you're
gonna be walking all over the place.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
But what I loved about dream Con, and say we've
been going for the past five years, is that dream
Con one seeing us, seeing people that look like us
and just living in their nerdouness, their geeked them living
in their fandom. But also the way that we approach things,
the way that we do things in general, and just
being able to eye you know, identify that. You know,

(33:27):
they got that trope of conventions about like it smells bad.
And granted we had some pockets, we had some pockets
for the most part, dream Con smell you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
And they were handing out Dealdorant there too.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
You don't even right, you know truth.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
But what I loved is that, like I love that
they put our people on the grand stage. We'll go
to a lot of these conventions and you know, we'll
see creators on there, but they don't look like us.
So at dream Con, being able to see uh, you know,
a Zanana bear there and a cav on stage there,
and then a clear time is they're whoever and they're
on the main stage part of the main thing.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, it makes me feel so spoiled because it's like
it's my first convention experience and I get to be
around black people, you.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Know, right right? And then that press conference.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
That press conference was really dope, you know because again
it's like I said, it gives you that celebri treatment,
but it's focused on you. And I love the questioning
that you know, the press had for you because it was,
you know, we do want to know you know more
about who you are and everything because we love everything
that you're doing.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
And I think that you know, your answers was great.
And did you have to prepare for that?

Speaker 3 (34:34):
I guess, like, what was your preparation for your first
ever press conference?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I had a little drinky drink and hoped for the best.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
What's they's drink of choice? What's your drink of choice?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
A double vodka cranberry.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Oh okay, okay, because.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
It's it's the hardest drink to mess up. It's just
two ingredients.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
It definitely is.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
So Now now, like I said, we definitely want to
have a little bit fun here in regards to that.
So we have a couple of questions that I want
to ask you. All right, So everybody always asks you
what your top five cartoons is. However, I want to
get deeper into that. What is your top three cartoon introsh.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Dude, okay, SpongeBob SquarePants. Well, I mean I love SpongeBob. Okay.
So there are there are the there are the cartoon
intros that I just think are iconic, yes, because like

(35:45):
these are my favorite cartoons, so of course I love
these intros. But then there are the cartoon intros that
are just like, this is just a cool ass intro.
I don't need I don't funck with a show like that,
but the intro is fired.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
That's what I want to know. I want to know that.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Okay, who Samurai Jack oh boon docks? What else? What else?
Samurai Jack boone Docks. I love Family Guy, but that's
just because I love the show. Oh Fairly odd Parents.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Oh Fairly Our Parents is a slap that.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
So we got this show sub show on our podcast
that we call it's called what We're talking About, and
we did an episode about cartoon intros, you know, and
and Fairly Our Parents is one of those ones that
is like, I don't know, I just find again, I
find myself quoting that, which leads me to my mo

(36:48):
So that leads me to my next question, because this,
this caused almost this almost caused anarchy within the podcast
nineties cartoon intros versus two thousand cartoon intros.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Who has the better intros?

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Nineties?

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Oh okay, hold on.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Because some of the like the early two thousands, like
fresh out of the nineties, they were eating a little bit.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
So I was listen there just so I'm a nineties baby.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
But when I was thinking about those cartoon intros, I
was saying, I was like, all right, one like Phineas
and fir that is that that go hard.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
I love that intro.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
It does, but like the car too, especially during like
Disney Channel's Black era, Proud.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Family, Proud Family.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
But then with the nineties, though, you do have things
like Freakazoid, you have dark Wing Duck, you have like
like you, there's something.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Like Gorilla just because it's catchy.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Gorilla and so it's it's it's hard. So it's like
but so I did overall you two thousands. But then,
like I said, there was a lot of people more
so nineties it was it caused anarchy. It was like
nobody can really choose which cartoon intro. And I was like,
because I don't know with my kids, I'm watching a

(38:11):
lot newer ones with my kids, and because of that,
I'm learning so much more cartoon intros. And I'm like, hey,
he's kind of slap man Loudhouse. I love like Loudhouse
slap Like. It's just like there's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
There's a lot of slaps. So all right, so you
going nineties.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Though, I'm leaning more towards the two thousands honestly, cause
like the two thousands made up more of my childhood
because I was born in nineteen ninety five. Okay, so
it's like I do. I did have like some of
the nineties cartoons, but I had more of the early

(38:46):
two thousands cartoons.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Okay, okay, all right, so now this is.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Now, this is this is this, this is the one
what cartoon intro?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Do you believe? It's highly overrated?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Highly overrated, overrated?

Speaker 3 (38:59):
So I want to let you know, Well, my one
of my podcasts hosts Trippy and this is this this
this almost got him kicked off the podcast.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
He said that the Pokemon intro is highly overrated. He said,
he said one.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
He said also, he said they called him Ash catch
him and Ash didn't really catch that many.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
He only caught a few and like he was, but yes,
he almost got kicked.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Is one of the best, even if you don't watch
anime like that.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
So now I want to know, if you had to
pick one, what would you say, is an overrated cartoon intro?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Overrated?

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I got to think a cartoon intros that people talk
about all the time. What's one that people talk about?

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I said, So you gotta said Pokemon is that one? Spongebobe?
You got? What else? What else?

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Animniacs? Let's see, I'm trying to think. So, so here's
what I thought some some of the ones that somebody
said the Sailor Moon intro was overrated? I was like,
that's crazy. Somebody says SpongeBob intro was overrated. I'm trying
to think, what else?

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Do whatever? What else did we throw off there? I
don't know, it's it's a it's a hard category.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I might have to say sponge Vibe actually, because the
theme song it self, by itself doesn't slap. I think
people just like it because the show was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
So here's all right, I said somebody, I am somebody,
But let me tell you why, because in the middle
it gets jumped up and here's the thing. I was like,
I get it. It's like it starts off strong, but
there's in them. There's a middle part that everybody stumbles
upon on that on that SpongeBob intro, and I feel

(40:58):
like how it came slap is hard if everybody gets
tripped up on it that that was you kind.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Of just mumble that part and she's like, it's up.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Right.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I think the sponge song is fun because like it's chantible,
like you you coach the show spungebos.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Also, I feel like there's there's songs in the SpongeBob
Show that go harder than the intro. Oh.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
The SpongeBob Show songs are fire.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Goofy Gooper, I'm a goofy dubar.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
That is my I love that song and even the
songs that you said listen when it takes song, like
when he did that part.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Oh man, that is one of my favorite, like in
show songs ever.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
So it's like, you know so that so that was
my that was my So all right, I'm glad that
I got an ally here.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, this the theme song, ain't that good? The show
is one of the best to ever do it. The
theme song. It supports the show, right.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
All right, last fun question and then we'll got a
few more than we'll get you about there. So we
do our segment called geek Set Hypotheticals. This is a
hypothetical situation, and I want to gauge your survival rate. Okay,
zombie apocalypse, robot apocalypse, or alien apocalypse? Which one do
you believe that you will be able to survive the longest?

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Robot apocalypse? Robot apocalypse because I'm always kind to my electronics,
so if they decide to go against the humans, I'm
going to be one of the favorite humans.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
So you're gonna trade on human kind.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Sure the hell will. I'm not about to be a
slave to robots.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
It's always weird because I was like when they be
showing like those advanced robotics, and then I feel like
the test that they show us is always just so
cruel to the robots, and they're like.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yes, maybe kicking the robots over and stuff. I be like,
leave them alone. And that's why I would be one
of the favorites. My computer would come to life like Xana,
You've always been good to me, and then go zep
somebody else.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
All right, so's so I know that you.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
You did say that Issa and Quinta is kind of
like an example of like how you would like your
career to go and things and that and and things
that you want to jump into. Have you already start
putting those those things in the motion at all?

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Man? I tried. I pitched a show to a company
and they said they liked it. And I've been trying
to schedule that second interview to meet with like the
the higher ups that would make it happen, and they
just danced around me. So but that first thing didn't happen.
But I'm gonna keep trying.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
So. But but but you have, you have an active
pitch right now.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
So here's hopefully somebody Let's say, if I can, if
anybody can see this, and you got you got that,
uh that that power at me, make sure y'all reach
out because it says she got a show ready in
regards to that. But that's dope, like I said, and
I don't I'm not going to ask you to reveal
what it is because, like I said, I'm manifesting that
it's going to come to life and we're going to
see you on that on that TV screen or that

(44:18):
movie screen soon in regards to that, but you know,
it is one of those things that you know, people always,
you know, try to figure out. And also, yeah, earlier,
was it either earlier this year or late last year?
You did also start your stunt woman journey?

Speaker 1 (44:32):
How is that?

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, I haven't been as as consistent as I should be,
but I've started taking some stunt classes and the stunt
teacher is really cool. So when he sees that students
are being consistent and he gets a job that you
could apply for, then he'll recommend you for it. So

(44:54):
he has recommended me for work to where I don't
have to do like any extreme stunts. I just got
to run after somebody. I just got to die in
a fire real quick, and I'm not on fire. So
I just got to take some more classes, get some
more actual advanced skills. And we're in the process of

(45:14):
putting together some like stunt scenes that I'm going to film,
so I'm excited for that. And that's another seed that
I've planted. So it's like, if I can't get my
own show right now, I can at least like try
to go the acting route and apply for a few
roles before you know, I get my own shit.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Yeah, are you do you have any connections with King Vader?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
You know, you know who King Vader is? Yeah, yeah,
because it might.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
That's kind of I see that same type of trajectory
for you, like with him, because you know he does this.
He did the same thing you know, had a stunt coordinator,
was working with stunts, doing his own stunts and learning
that process of it, and that evolve into his content
and everything like that. And I believe I think that
y'all two would make amazing content because it's two people
not only have the acting chops, not only half the

(46:06):
stunt chops, but you know also you know, you guys
are very animated.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
I was listening.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
I'm to approach him at dream condent. I got scared
because I high because we like follow each other. I
was like, all right, he said hey, but like hey,
as in like hello fan who I don't recognize.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
So I was like, oh, okay, I'm pretty sure he
recognized you. The things that I noticed about Vader because
I said, I've had the pleasure of interviewing him in
kind of the same type of interactions that you have.
The one thing that I know about Vader is that
because of how long he's been doing content within this space.
He almost has that like rock star appeal where there's

(46:45):
so much going on around him.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
That he treats everybody real quick at first, Glenn.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, no, I wasn't offended by it, but I'm already shy,
so like I was, like, that was all of the
nerve that I had built up for the day, So
I don't have any more.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
So what's next? I guess you know what I said.
I know, and I know this is.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
A cliche question and everything like that, but I do
want to see, like what's next.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
And where do you need people to support you at?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
What is next? That is a great question. I've been,
you know, trying to do more collapse with other content
creators so I can get on somebody show and stuff.
So I'm still harassing all deaf digital to put me
in some ship.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
I might can help you with that.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Really, that would be great.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
I was just on so I'd be on squad casts
and everything like that. So I I yeah, so I'll
be heving on the.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Team every couple of months, like hey, I'm still.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Here, just say, you know, I'll put I'll reach out
to some people.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
That would be fantastic. I have much to give, you know.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
So yeah, no, so so you want to get you,
so you want to lean more into like collabing with
like said the other properties, So like all deaf define
digital just doing just and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
And yeah, like even web shows don't it doesn't need
to all be like TV and movies, you know.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Oh yeah, no, I think I would love to see
you on hot ones. I would love to see I
would love to be.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
On hot ones because I'm like, the wings can't be
that hot. I feel like.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
I could be. I'm gonna let you know.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
I'm a hot sauce connoisseur, and so I found all
the hot sauces.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
I found their first two lineups, and I ordered all
those sauces and I tried.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Them some of them like some of So. One thing
about hot sauces is there's like there's two ways that
they're gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
The schofield level is how hot it is.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Some people are gonna do with the flavor and hot,
and some people are just gonna do just hot.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Right, So like, well that's weird.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
I wanted to taste good too.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Look, so most of them taste good, right, Okay, but
like the bomb I think that was like number seven
on the list, and the Mega Death and the Ultra
Death those taste.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Horrible, Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Yeah, but there's a lot of them that tastes well,
like the three fifty seven mad Dog tastes great, like
you know. And then I said, I also I did
the one Ship Challenge twice, like I'm one of those
I'm one of those people that really like.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Hot stuff and try that everything like that.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
So now before I get to get into our last
what's the name, I would be remissed not to ask
you what are your top five Zana videos?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Ooh, okay, the Devil went down to Georgia, Okay, because
that's one of my favorite songs and I wanted to
do a dance to that song for years, like since
I heard that song, like playing at Stone Mountain Park
for the Laser Show, I've wanted to dance to that song.
So that's definitely number one. Number two mm, I don't know.

(50:13):
I really like Living Levita Loco, but I'll put that
at number five. Number two. The one that I did
to give me some More by Busta Rhymes.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Oh that was fire. I just I just recently rewatched
that one.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Thank you they give me the more somewhere by just oh,
the the scene recreation from Shrek with with the merry men. Okay,
I have one more this number four mm hmmmm and

(51:04):
no umber four. What's number four?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
The good morning from family Guy.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Oh that was a funny one too.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Actually no, no, no, no, no, the yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Actually yes, Because you know what, it's a lot of
the time when you do content and you do certain scenes,
it's like, oh, I forgot about that scene.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
I was like, I forgot Joe was so unhinged in
that moment. Just yell yeah, no, I love that. I
love that.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
So man Zaanda, I want to say again, thank you
so much for giving me your time. Thank you so
much for putting out so much positivity and into this
world from our viewers.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
And from the culture ourselves.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
I want to let you know that you are appreciated
and cherished and we're going to continue to support you
in all your endeavors.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
And I was again just thank you so much for this,
thank you for having me anytime.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
And as as always, this is the only podcast that
blame hip hop coaching and geet coaching together. I'm your boy,
dudees this this has been the amazing day. And I
bear aka Madam j and we are out these

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