April 28, 2025 • 52 mins
The battle lines are drawn at 1331. 1331 is divided… and we’re not holding back. Sinners has split the crew — and we’re not holding back. Two of us are ready to defend it… and one of us is ready to bury it. In this episode, we break down what’s working, what’s not, and why the horror world is so divided. If you love a good fight, mixed reviews, and raw, unfiltered opinions — this one’s for you.
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
What's Up? And welcome back to thirteen thirty one. I'm
your host, mister Ripper, and as always I have my
lovely co hosts here to help me. The one the
Only Todd of Thunder What's Up? And the Mistress of
the Monsters Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hey, my little monsters.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And we're back with another movie review, the hit blockbuster Sinners,
the movie that is taking America by storm, so to speak. Yeah,
we went. I saw this movie last Friday. We've been
sitting on this for a hot minute, mostly because of me,
because I have been trying to figure out how to
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go about this, because this movie has a lot of
controversy around it. Would you would you say that there's
controversy around Centers.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think that Centers has led to some really big discussions.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
We're going to get into those discussions today. What about you, Todd,
Have you heard any controversy on your end?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, I have seen controversy from the public, but I
don't say the big fucking dale.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So well, it's it's kind of like a hit or
miss thing for some people. But I guess to give
you a heads up, we're probably going to be diving
into a lott of spoilers, a lot of spoilers and
tailor alert, so just go ahead if you haven't seen it,
which by now, I feel like the whole world has
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seen it, because we're recording this on Wednesday, and that
was Friday, so it's almost been a week. So Misscellana.
What was your overall takeaway from Sinners? Mm?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, something that I thought was interesting is walking into
the theater, I had this kind of buzz and excited
energy that I don't get super often anymore. A lot
of times I go in almost kind of anxious and
nervous because I know we're gonna be talking about it,
and some of the movies that we've seen this year
have not been so great, not really, but this one
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was felt a little bit different for me. And then
it's like I almost just knew I was gonna absolutely
love this movie. I had. Man, this was such a
fun ride for me. I loved almost every single aspect
of this movie, and I'm excited to dive into it
and go into a little bit more detail, but overall,
absolutely fully loved this movie.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Thunder from down Under, What was your overall experience for
this movie?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Well, I was kind of the same way I went
into this film knowing that this film had a good budget,
it had name actors, and I was expecting a couple
big things from it. Thought the trailer obviously grabbed my attention.
I was ready for the ride, and for I would
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say the majority of it. I enjoyed the ride.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I I'm mixed on my end. I yeah, I don't
know how to dive into this. I personally did not
care for this movie. I'm like the one percent on
the internet that didn't really care for this movie.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
But you know it's awesome about that though, is the
fact that it allows us to have a much more
fun conversation.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Well, miss Lana, we will see how much of a
fun conversation it's going to be. I have no faith
that this is going to be fun. I think this
is going to be very heavy, honestly. But go ahead
and tell the colt out there what brief synopsis or
tell them a little bit about Sinners. Sure so.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Sinners is a brand new vampire horror film that is
directed by Ryan Coochler. It stars Michael B. Jordan as
twin brothers Smoke and Stack, who returned to nineteen thirty
two Mississippi to open a juke joint. Their plans are
disrupted by Remick, an Irish vampire played by Jack O'Connell.
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The film blends historical realism with supernatural horror, exploring themes
of cultural appropriation and historical trauma.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, that is very on the nose with describing this movie.
So I guess in order to end on a good note,
I guess we got to start with the sour note.
And I guess, since I'm the biggest sour puss, I
will dive into the dislikes on my end, and y'all
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can chime in if you want to, and you can
challenge me on this, Okay, So I've.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Made you give us permission. You can't fuss when we.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Challenge, and you know what, throw it out there if
you think that we feel differently, I know you are,
so well, we just want your cue about it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
We don't want to be like, well wait a minute, motherfucker. No, No,
go ahead, chime in. So I'm going to let y'all
know my dislikes because I have a list. They don't
have a list, I'm assuming. So my first dislike for
this movie, I thought the sex scenes were kind of
just unnecessary. Honestly, Well, I can get behind you on
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that because if you cut them out and nothing changes, I.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Will agree with that. I agree they didn't offend me,
but I will agree with your statement.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I'm not gonna say they offended me. It was more
they were kind of useless. Yeah, they was useless. It didn't.
The only one that kind of made any sense, you know,
it being cinners was the preacher boy and the the
married woman. Well they were all married, but anyway, Yeah,
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that one made sense because he was sinning and he
knew he was sinning, and it was a married woman
and stuff like that. But the other ones were just unnecessary.
I found it to be poor lighting in several situations,
particularly when it was outside. It had moments of great lighting,
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and then it had moments of like I can't see
what the fuck is going on, and it gave me
like a VP recreem vibes. I might be on the
island by myself on that one, but that's just how
I felt. One big problem I had was with Sam.
I couldn't understand what the fuck he was saying half
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the time.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I will agree with you on that one. When now
his singing totally different story. But when he was speaking,
there were some times where I was like, bro, what
are you saying?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Like?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Open mouth a little bit, it's all he got cotton balls.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It was his take on a Southern accent, and it
was it wasn't that great.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Honestly, he had a very unique voice too. I think
it has something to do with it. It's just I
think the way that his voice is combined with that
Southern accent. But I get what you're saying for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You want to know what's funny about that? I was
kind of the opposite way when he was talking. I
could understand him. When he first started singing, I didn't
know what the fuck he was saying. Well, I kind
of dis agree with you, I don't. I couldn't understand
a lot of what he was singing. Oh really yeah,
it sounded like he had a mouthful of marbles. It
was like if Bubba could carry a tune. Like when
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he was talking, it was more like, hey, you know whatever.
But when he started was like, you know, kind of
like that old black man, And I'm like it was
it was kind of shocking to begin been seeing that
he's how old is he supposed to be? Like eighteen
in the film.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't think he's too far from that age ineral life.
He's probably like early twenty so when he started singing
any Headbird, old black Man, and Vault.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
At least got an old soul when it comes to his.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, yeah, but you know it, it eventually worked out
for me. But go ahead. I don't think that the
overall quotation theme of sinners was explored enough, Like the
whole sinning concept. I don't think that that was really there.
They didn't really dive into it.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, I personally, I think they they did. I just
think that for the time period, if you put what
they put on a pedestal of what was bad behavior
in twenty twenty five, that's just something everybody does every
single day, Yeah, you know what I mean. So I
think it might have been one of those you know,
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I mean just going to what they called the Jute Joint,
which is basically a club now right, you know, Yeah,
that's a Saturday night for anybody. You know, you'd be
the last one to leave the club, first one in
the church.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
These days. Well, I still I don't think it was
explored much. I mean, I feel like it was kind
of a missed opportunity if anything.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I mean, yeah, I can see what you're saying. I
do think though, that there was a lot in this
film that was very like subtle. There's a lot of
metaphors there was. I mean, even just if you think
about Remick, our first introduction to him is the scene
where he falls from the sky. We get that shot
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looking down on him, and from if you're thinking of
it from a Christian perspective, Lucifer was a fallen angel.
There was a lot of things that really kind of
made Remix seem like a metaphor for Lucifer. I mean,
he was literally like Sammy called him the devil when
he first saw him, which was more blatant in your face,
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but there was also a lot of like really subtle
things that if you have a Christian background or any
knowledge about the Bible and like who Lucifer is, that
kind of go hand in hand, which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. It was a lot
of the devil references without calling him the devil, except
for like once or a couple of times that Sammy
called him the devil. But another I'm glad you brought
up one thing another aspect that I didn't quite understand
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and why they were just in it for five seconds,
was the Native Americans? So I'm five seconds and then
they were like out was a very.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Like yeah, yeah, why were they there for just a
split second and then never talked about again.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, I mean it didn't like if you take them out,
nothing changes.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah. I thought that myself, actually, like is this going
to play back into the story or whatever. But then
I thought to myself, well, it kind of reminded me
of the scene in John Carpenter's The Thing where you
see the Norwegian people at the beginning and then you
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really don't know what the fuck while they were there,
but you find out that this thing happened to them
before it got to the base. So I'm thinking it
happened to the Native Americans before it got here.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Right, which could go into a backstory, It could go
into a sequel or prequel crease.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Which I think is what happened. I mean, they said
right there at the end of their little scene of
we need to get back before dark, which was at
that point we didn't know that remake. I mean, we
knew from the trailer that we were we were watching
a vampire film, right, But in watching the movie, we
weren't yet made aware that he was a vampire, and
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that was kind of the first little allusion to it,
because vampires come out at night. But it was a
little bit of confusion for me in that scene of
he's out in the sunlight. I mean, yeah, his skin's burning,
but like, what's happening here?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, it didn't. It didn't make sense to me because
at the end of the movie, he started like catching
on fire almost immediately, right, So one of these things
just don't make sense. So I thought that this movie,
the plot progression was fucking slow. Oh my god, it
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was like watching fucking paint dry for me. I just
I couldn't get into it. I kept checking my watch,
and you don't get vampires until an hour into the movie.
An hour and a half into the fucking movie.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I think it is like an hour and a half.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Well, normally I'm right there with you. However, we've kind
of you know, we talked amongst ourselves how we enjoyed
the story. So for those of us who enjoyed it,
it didn't seem very long. We were on board with it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, I just so the cult knows like we, like
he said, we've had this conversation already, but I just
want the cult to be aware. You were listening to
a video talking about Sinners, and he said that it
was two and a half hours long, and I was like, what,
I had no idea like, I was personally like, I hate,
I hate. I know how it feels to be like,
oh my god, this movie is dragging on and you're
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totally valid in your feelings. I don't know why we
felt so differently about that aspect of it, but I
was so enthralled by the story that I was just like,
and normally, this is another thing. I think it's funny.
It's normally I have to pee when he's that long.
And I was so into it, I didn't even have
to be.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, yeah, But we definitely know where you're coming from it.
If you don't enjoy the ride, it's it's gonna feel
like a long fucking ride. But if you enjoy it,
you know it doesn't seem that bad.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I think the thing that made me count the tiles
in the ceiling, so to speak, is that most of
the movie, this is another rolling into My next negative
is that most of this movie is spent opening this
fucking bar like ninety percent of this movie is spent
opening bar, opening the bar for fucking nothing, and then
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it's like a short vampire fight movie over. I'm like,
the fuck. I thought it was just I thought it
was just fucking weak. It was like it was like
lighting a bottle rocket and you think it's gonna take
off instantly, and then you're sitting there fucking a half
hour later and then all of a sudden, out of
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know where, and then it's over. But that's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, I think to us it was just character development.
We were establishing who these characters were, how they were,
how they moved about, and what their in gold was.
Their end goal was to get this jute joint up
and running, and we went on the journey with them
of how they were going to do it, from who
they were going to have at security, to who they
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were going to cook, to who they were going to
run the bar, the whole nine yards. That might have
been something that maybe you would have cut out or whatever,
but I appreciated what they showed us.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I don't think that I would have appreciated the movie
as much without it, because I wouldn't have been invested
in those characters or give a shit about what happened
to them.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, because you run into this, you run into this
deal where you get how you feel Ripper where it
was kind of pointless, and then you get to the
other people that would go there was no character development.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I wouldn't say that it was useless. I wouldn't say
that I don't enjoy character development. I just don't enjoy
how they did the character development was this movie? I
felt like they drug the character developed me out. Okay,
so they drug the character development out and put a
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bunch of filler in that was unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Like the sex scenes. Is that what you mean?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
The sex scenes? Some of the monologue was unnecessary. I
mean you can summarize these characters within I don't know,
forty minutes. I mean I can talk about them and
summarize them in less time. And how come it took
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like over half the movie to establish these characters when
on paper, it's not a lot of depth to them.
They don't give you a lot. They say it's character development,
but you don't give us a lot about these characters.
You say that you're giving backstory to these characters, but
can you really honest tell me that you know these
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characters inside and out. As long as this movie took place,
you should know they're fucking beginning and end at least
for the brothers, but you don't.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But it was one day.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, okay, Well, I mean, well, hang on, I guess
so I don't know. Hey, let's just sum it up
like this. We liked it, you didn't, and that's okay. Well,
I mean if it's one day, I just I don't
understand a two fucking hour runtime. Like I get you're
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saying it's one day, but they're spending all this quote
unquote time with character to development, but they're by the
end of the movie. You really don't know these characters
one hundred percent or not even fifty percent.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, I can't speak for the mom here, but I
was okay with the characters that I did get to know.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I was fine with them. Yeah, okay. Well. Another one
of my big dooty points I guess, so to speak,
is I thought it was fucking genre confused. They tried
to be a fucking musical, a horror, a drama, comedy,
artsy fartsy piece, and it just it was jumbled fucking
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mess to me at first half of the movie doesn't
match the second half of the movie. It's like putting
two pieces of the puzzle together. They kind of look
like they should fit, but you're forcing them to fit.
That's how it came off to me.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
How do you feel about that, mom?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
This is hard because I don't want to feel like
I'm just like, well, shitting on your opinion. I'm trying
to I actually personally really liked that. This felt to
me like a melting pot of genres. And what is
kind of mind boggling to me is the fact that
normally I would feel the same way you two of
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like damn, maybe couldn't make up their kind of what
it wanted to be. But for some reason, the way
that this is written and executed I was I loved
every part of it. I loved the drama, the romance,
the crime thriller, the music part, the horror elements that
we got which I could have used a little bit
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more of that, but just the overall the way that
it all came together created this beautiful picture, this interesting story,
this fun vampire moment. Like to me, this was one
of those fun vampires, not spooky, scary the vampires, and
I liked that.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I agree with you, I think if it wasn't for
the first half of the film, the second half wouldn't
have been so awesome For me.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I don't feel I feel like it was two different movies.
I feel like that if you take the vampire out
of this movie and it's just a time it's just
a period piece.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, and well that's one of the reasons why I
like it, because the vampire is not supposed to be
in this movie. The fact that it is in the
movie is like, how we go from like normal nineteen
thirty two. You know, these these black people trying to
open up a jute joint to vampires. Some people like
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you will get well, that's too different. What the fuck's
going on? To me, I'm like, that's fucking great. It's
not supposed to happen, which is why I like it.
It's not supposed to be vampires in nineteen thirty two
fucking up a jute joint.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
See, I don't mind that. But it was no it
was no build up for it. It was just like, Okay,
we're focusing on the brothers. Okay, we're focusing on this story,
we're developing these characters, and then oh, by the way,
there's vampires.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, well, you know, it kind of had like one
of those Well, it kind of has a Marvel movie
type of thing where you see the bad guy for
like two seconds and it's all about the good guys
and then all of a sudden, here comes bad guys,
and then the good guys.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Have to deal with the bad guy. I'll give you that,
But I like the journey that we went on. I
thought it was more like Django meets Twilight meets West
Side Story. I didn't get Twilight vibes not.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
There because you haven't even seen all the Twilight movies.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Whatever, Twatlight it's it no, not a I'm not a
fan of the twat Light movies. But my big, big,
big problem. And I know I've seen on the inner
web people say, oh, this is a lazy opinion. It's
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very satire opinion of you to have, and it's it's
a modern day from dust till Don, Like it's almost verbatim.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yes, but don't you love dust till Don? So why
do you hate this one so much?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Because I've already seen dust till Don. Yeah, but dust
Till Don it wasn't quite light. I mean it was
a little bit like it. Motherfucker please, not really. I
mean it was with the two brothers but young antagonists.
But can't locked in a bar. Can't you say though,
that the main character's father is a priest? I can
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keep going.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
No, no, I'm going back to what you said where
this movie felt like two different movies. Well, can't you
say the same thing that the first half of Dustill
Down doesn't match the second half of Dustill Dawn.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
This isn't about from Dustill Down. This is the fact
that this movie straight up blatantly ripped this movie off.
I don't think it blatantly it did. I would say
the fuck out here, will I'll give.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
You forty percent of it? Yeah, I'll give you forty percent.
I don't think it completely ripped it off. No, it
changed the period that that's it. The ending of Sinners,
the vampire aspect of Sinners, the end part, most of
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the main part, but mostly the vampire aspect of it
is exactly from dust Till Dawn. There's no fucking if
if Anne's butts and nuts about it, You've got two
main brothers, one level had straight to the point, one
out of his fucking mind.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Crazy. Quentin Tarantino wasn't really charming, though, I'll give that
element to it. Main young character, Bob, did you say
May Young? Maine Young said May Young. The rest was,
oh my god, character quit trying to quit, trying to
throw me off. Her father is a fucking priest. It
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takes place in a bar. They're fighting to get out.
You only have two survivors at the end of the movie.
Your main cool guy that's you know, we know, is
that type of you know, going to survive no matter what.
And the young character there's the heart wrenching love interest.
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That not love interest, but it's that heart wrenching character
like the Asian kid that has to be killed because
he's going to turn. Oh that sounds like smoke or
sacks girl and Annie Annie exact same fucking scene.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
She like begs him to kill her before she turns.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Huh happening from Dustill don I mean, I can keep
going with the fucking the similarities here. Well, to be fair,
in Sinners, there was only one survivors Smoke God. Okay,
they changed the ending a little bit. The only thing
that I will give you with this movie. I know
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some people are gonna say, well, from Dustill, Donna is
a be ridded vampire movie whatever suck my fucking ass.
The van looked way better and from dust till Don,
but this movie, the story leading up to the point,
was probably more interesting than Well, it's definitely shot better
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than from Dustill Down, but I still prefer from Dustill Down.
And that's my biggest problem with this. And I'm surprised
you didn't point this out, and you didn't fucking see this.
It's the very first thing I said to you when
you came out of the fucking theater. You said it
kind of reminded me. I'm like, in the back of
my head, I'm like, yes, but I was the first
one kind of well, that's the way I felt. It
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kind of reminded me. Oh, okay, well, I'm here to
point out that there's more of a kind of I
watched some interviews with the director of this movie, and
he said that he got some influences from X, Y
and Z vampires movies, and he did acknowledge from dust
Till Don, thank god. But he also said that he
got the look in the fucking concept of this movie
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for the vampires. Could you possibly guess where he got
the influence and look of the vampires for this goddamn
movie Pussing Boots.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I thought that was just the eyes.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Nope, the fucking plot. He one for one took the
he he didn't say he took the character. He said
got influence. But going back, I watched the comparison the
evil villain in Pussing Boots? Is was his riddick? Is
that his name of the vampire remick one for one?
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Even the fucking red eyes, even the way the mannerisms
and talking. Oh yeah, it's fucking mind blowing. The more
the more research I do on this movie, the more
like shit I find, The more I'm like, this is
the hill I'm choosing to die on. Yeah, I'm trying
to come up there and patch you up, but you
won't let me. Yeah, well, so, oh good stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, you're you're in a parking lot all by yourself,
but at least you won't be bothered.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Is there any good things that y'all want to bring
up or y'all good?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Well? What I find interesting is you know you touched
on you didn't touch on it. You talked about how
you felt like this was such a slow burn, and
then all of a sudden boom, vampire's done for me.
The best way I can think of to describe how
I felt with the pacing of this movie is like
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you put a pot of water on the stove and
you turn it on high, and it sits there pretty cool,
calm and collected for a moment. Then you start seeing
some bubbles start simmering, and it goes pretty quick from
simmering to a full rolling boil. That's what this felt
like to me. We had a whole It took a
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long time for it to warm up to the horror
part of the movie. It's simmered there for a second,
and then it's turned into a rolling boil. And when
you're boiling water, you're making some posters, you're making something good.
And that's what he was for me. It rounded out
the story, give me what I wanted, give me a
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fun vampire moment, and I was happy with it.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And I also believe that if you take out the
vampire aspect, let's say that the director, instead of going
with the vampire very much, could have went with like
the demon aspect of it. I think that would have
worked as well in this film, and maybe it even
would have worked better. Seeing that the film was called
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Sinners maybe they should have instead of being vampires, they
should have been demons. Certainly would have fit the theme
a little bit more better. What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I think this movie was just a bunch of pieces
that he took. I ain't gonna say influence from him,
but he took other story and put it together and
then made a Frankenstein monster. Well that's okay with me.
I like Frankenstein's Monster, yeah, but I don't like this
Frankenstein's monster. This is like sci fi level monster. Well,
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you know, it's like, Oh, I'm gonna take elements of
from Dust Till Dawn and put it right here, and
we'll take a little old brother warth All. I won't
put it right here. I'll take a little bit of life,
put it right here. Oh, I'm we'll take a little
bit of legend right here. Oh. You know what, I
really liked that movie Pussing Boots.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I'm gonna take that and you know, just.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Just cook it up and you know, still everybody else's
fucking idea and then make one big, convoluted idea. Love it.
I don't know, I like all those movies though, Yeah
he did too, And then he made one big fucking dips,
one big fucking fart fest.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
No, it was a beautiful melting pot.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
No, and the melting pot of shit.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well yeah, like I said, man, you're on an aland
by yourself on this one, brother, and I've been calling you.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Hey, what fuck you? Fuck you too.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
On a more serious note, though, I think that there's
probably people that feel the same way that you do
that are going to be like, oh, finally someone can
see it from my perspective. So I am very grateful
that you did not shy away and you shared your thoughts,
and I'd like, I just want to say, your thoughts
and your feelings are one hundred percent vaalid and I'm
not putting them down. Just because I saw it differently
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doesn't mean I can't value the way that you saw
than what your perspective was on it.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And good for you actually being able to say what
you did not like about this movie other than these
idiots on TikTok that are following trends and making it
about either race or religion. Good for you.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, well, I feel like when people dive into that
ass respect of it, I feel like it's kind of
like a lazy, cheap way out of being offended by something.
It's like somebody being offended by you accidentally calling a
mammer sir.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah. And how.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Idiotic of it to go into a movie called Sinners
and come out and say, well, that goes against my spirit, right,
like shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah. Well, on a positive note, we will go ahead
and dive into the positive aspect of this now, mister thunder,
So go ahead, and I guess kick off the good
time vibes. I guess so to.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Speak, Well, some of the things that I really liked
about this film. You guys know that I like isolated
films that take place in areas that doesn't seem like
a whole lot of help is coming along. I think
that makes for a great little movie when you know
there's no hope come around the corner and you kind
of kind of have to thin for yourself. So this
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a movie, even though it was a kind of a
long movie, it didn't seem that way. But the majority
of the action takes place place at this juke joint,
as it's called. So I like that the atmosphere in it.
I was vibing with it. It took place in nineteen
thirty two. I felt like it was nineteen thirty two.
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I didn't have to use my imagination for it. The
music that they used in it, this was very music heavy.
Of course, one of the themes about the film is
how music can kind of conjure up evil spirits and
demons that you might not want, kind of like that
you know, old saying, you know, don't listen to that
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type of music. It's the devil's music. It kind of
goes off that superstition type of deal. I liked Michael B.
Jordan's performances as the brothers in this film. I really
like the the other kid that was Preacher Boy that
he was referred to most in the film. Honestly, it
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kind of centered around him more than Michael B.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Jordan.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Obviously, Michael B. Jordan as the brothers were kind of
like the heavy hitter stars in this but the overall
story kind of revolved around Preacher Boy because he's the
one with the gift of guitar playing, and he's not
a bad singer.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Either, and this was his first film ever.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Well that's even more impressive because I thought he did
a very good job the vampires. The way they made him,
I thought it was very unique. Usually in a vampire flick,
they're either really vicious to the point where they're almost animalistic,
or they're nope, sparkly.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, these vampires were like they were like humans, but
their whole deal was just become a vampire.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
So much better. Like that was it, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
And I enjoyed that, But it's still kind of being
intimidating and being, you know, something you don't want to
be around. But at the same time, they could talk
to you, and I like the fact that they didn't
force themselves when they could, they would try to convince
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you to make the choice first, and if you didn't
make the choice, then that's when they were like, Okay,
we'll just tear you apart.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I enjoyed that little option thing. But at the end
of the film, or by the end of the film,
like I said at the beginning, I went on the ride.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
And yeah, I always say, I can't convince anybody else
to like the film. I can just tell you why
I like And those were some of the reasons why
I like it. Other than what we normally go over, score, cinematography,
all that stuff, this movie was top notch. When it
comes to all of that, right, it's yeah, it was
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very thought provocating. Is that the right word provoking? Provoking? Poke,
poke me whatever?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Anyway, Yeah, Misscellana Todd has named a lot of good
positives about this on his end. So what was some
things that stood out to you and intrigued you?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Well, the opening scene was pretty heavy. We see our
preacher boy really torn to shreds limping obviously hurt, carrying
half of a guitar. And there's a scene between him
and his dad where he's you know, telling him to
come back to God and leave all this behind him,
(35:59):
and we're like, what happened? What happened? And then it
jumps back in time. Now, by I jump back in time,
I mean literally this entire movie is over the course
of one day.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
The end is the beginning.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Right yeah, and right after that though, when we jump
back for the next almost actually, I think over half
of the movie is where there really isn't much horror
going on. It's more of the drama, the romance, the
kind of crime thriller aspect, lots of character development and
(36:35):
background stories to get to know these characters. And I
think most of the time, like I feel like I
would be bored, but the way that this was done,
I wasn't at all, And it made me actually care
about each of these characters, even the ones that I
didn't really like. I wanted to know what happened to them.
I was invested, and there was a one part where
(36:58):
I had this moment I was like, oh wait, I'm
much in a horror movie. Almost forgot But I wasn't
mad about it, like I feel like I would be
in a lot of other movies. He just did it
so well in the.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Way did not make you mad for this one.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Because I was so like I said, I was so
invested in the story and the characters. I was enthralled
by what I was, what I was seeing, what I
was hearing, what I was watching, The music how I
touched on this. The guy that actually did the score
is Ludwig Gorenson, who just won an Oscar for his
work in Oppenheimer. He'd won previously for Black Panther. The music,
(37:36):
to me, was really like the heartbeat behind this film.
It was what the overall like. It was a It
was a constant pushing the movie forward and exploring the
story more. And music is such an important thing to me.
I thought it was really cool how they talked about
I mean, yes, they talked about how it can summon
(37:58):
like demons and things like that, but it also talked
about out like how can bring people together and join
people from different generations and aspects of life. And I
thought that was really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
That scene was definitely interesting. I thought it was all right.
There's some things in it that I didn't really care for,
but I'm not going to go into that aspect of
it personally. I guess I'll talk about some of my
likes that I do have for this movie. I thought
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the acting of this movie was pretty spot on. I've
always been a big supporter of Michael B. Jordan Todd
knows that. Ah, my friends know that. I love the
Creed movies and absolutely great which this director did the
Creed movies too. I thought it was kind of an
interesting setup. It was. It was the period piece. Definitely
(38:54):
felt like the time period they did. They did know that.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Aspect of it, theduction to the character, like the costume design,
it was all. It was very lived in.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, I definitely enjoyed it. It definitely had that time period,
like down to a tee. As far as that goes.
That's honestly. I mean the music in the movie was
very soulful. I enjoy blues music personally. Whether I'm allowed
to or not, that's a different story and that's a
(39:25):
different conversation, but I don't know that that's pretty much
my that's pretty much my only like positives.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I also one of the things that I loved about
Michael B. Jordan. I mean, we've seen him in a
lot so far. We already know that he's a fantastic actor.
But what I think is so cool is that we've
seen it done before where one character plays or one
actor plays multiple characters. Yes, and sometimes that can become
kind of gimmicky and almost take you out of it
because you know it's the same person. In this film,
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I felt like each of his characters were very distinct
and different, and I felt like I was watching two
different people.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I definitely can get behind that somewhat. I think that
that's a very accurate statement. He was on par as
much as Tom Hardy was in Legend. I know you
haven't watched Legend about the two brothers that are gangsters,
and they they feel like night and day different, but
(40:26):
you know it's crazy. They feel like Coen Brothers and
Michael b did a very good job and making each
character different, like the difference between Smoke and Stack, Like
one smiling and you know, very charming, I guess, so
to speak, and the other one's very straightforward, serious, business minded,
(40:49):
very short with what he says, short and sweet, straight
to the point. Yep, Yeah, I dug that aspect of it.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
But I also felt like I just wanted to touch
on Hailey Steinfeldt for a second because I felt like
she didn't get a whole lot of a whole lot
of screen time, but when she did, I felt like
she commanded the screen and she played her role so well.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
She I guess I really haven't stopped to think about
her performance that much. Really, she definitely she was she
was something. I mean, I don't know. I kind of
found her kind of bitchy. I don't know why. I
don't know if it was her voice or attitude, but
(41:35):
maybe it was my attitude. Hello, I don't know. At
this point.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Now, she had some spunk and I liked it.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Well, was there anything on y'all's end that you found
to be negative? Mister Thunder?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
The only thing I didn't like in the film was
there was this kind of fantasy scene where it kind
of connected all the generations of music together from that
time period up until the sixties and seventies, eighties, the
hip hop era of the nineties and on like that,
(42:09):
and it kind of came out of nowhere. And I
understand and get what they were trying to do. They
were trying to say, you know, music is universal, music
is you know, you can't have this without that, and
blah blah blah, you know that whole aspect of it.
But I thought it went on extremely too long, and
(42:30):
it just happened. They didn't like it went from this
great performance by the Preacher Boy to this. I would
have rather just seen Preacher Boy just perform that whole scene.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I agree with you completely, And that's actually what I
was going to say too, is like the beginning of
it was really good when it was just really it
was just him and Slick on the piano. But as
it went on, I got very lost and it was
hard to keep up with and realize what all was happening. Actually, Ripper,
you pointed out some things I didn't even see.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, it was some things in there that I personally
don't care for But I'm with y'all. I I thought
the scene was fucking stupid. I'm just I'm just gonna
put it like that. I thought it was fucking stupid.
But I do agree with y'all and preacher boy, I
(43:22):
did like where it was going. I was getting that like,
oh brother arthoul like meets life type vibe going on.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, it felt very spiritual there for a minute.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, little bit it did.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
It felt like we were seeing like a real scene,
and then the rest of it felt like a forced performance. Yeah,
you know, it's something like one of those you know,
kind of like when you see the halftime of the
super Bowl and you're just like, you know what, that
would have been better if you just stand.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
There and song instead of all this stupid shit, right exactly. Well,
as always, we tell you there were use and the
census before we dive into it ourselves. So, miscellana, since
this is a big movie, probably going to be the
biggest talk of the summer, what did it do as
(44:17):
far as money? This is kind of a new thing.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Well, Sinners was actually number one at box office this weekend,
so it made forty eight million dollars domestically, So in
the United States and sixty three million globally an opening weekend.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
So is that sixty three like total or is that
like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
So sixty three I think overall worldwide?
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Okay? And it had one hundred million budget it.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Says ninety plus, so somewhere between ninety one hundred.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
So it hasn't broke even yet anyway.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
In one weekend and it wasn't okay? Can we talk
about the fact that a horror movie was number one
at the box office.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
I don't find this to be a horror movie. Horrible movie, oh,
Mark Alanta, Well, you know, speaking of horrible, let's talk
about the Google audience rating over at uh Google. So
the audience rating has this at a four point five
out of five. Not surprising, Mister Letterbox, we don't really
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talk about Letterbox too much, but has it at a
four point three out of five? Not surprising? I'm deba
or IMDb is got this at a eight point two
out of ten, not surprising. I'm surprised. I thought they
would have gave this thing a ten. Now, of course,
the biggest thing making the waves that everybody's talking about
(45:44):
the reviews on is the tomatoes that are rotten. So
do y'all want the popcorn meter or the tomato meter?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
First, wait, which one tomato meter is that? The critics, Yes, yes,
I agree.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Well, the critics, with two hundred and ninety nine reviews
have this at a certified fresh ninety eight percent. Whow.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yeah, honestly, none of these are surprising. I heard that
the critics did like the film.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Well, the audience rating at ten thousand plus verified ratings
hot and fresh or whatever it is, certified whatever the
hell it is for the audience has this only at
one percent lower at ninety seven percent.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Considering all the negative talk surrounding this, and it's usually
about the religion aspect of it, yeah, I think a
lot of people just watched it just like me and
you did, and just had fun with it and just said,
you know, the hell with all this crazy stuff or whatever.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I'm on the the island by myself. I don't get
this one. I don't think this is what I'm going
to get. But you know, I will say this, I
will watch this movie when it comes out again, and
maybe maybe I'll like it on a second rewatch. Maybe
maybe it is me. I don't know. I can only
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give my perspective in my honest opinion of this, and
I tend to you know, I know I'm a little
harsh on the ratings and stuff like that and you know, reviews,
but it's honestly how I feel, and if you know
I feel a certain way, I feel like that I
owe it to whoever's listening to this to be one
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hundred percent honest and genuine. Yes, So I guess, Miss Atlanta,
I'll get you to kick it off, then I'll give
my rating and then will end with mister Thunder because
I know mine is going to be different than both
of y'all. Question.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Man, I I'm smiling right now because I had such
a good time with this movie. I honestly wouldn't mind
going and seeing it in theaters again, which I have
never gone back to the theater to see a movie twice.
But I think that there was a lot in this
film that really was kind of open ended. It was
(48:20):
up for interpretation, and I'm curious how I would feel
about a lot of things on the second watch and
if there are things that I may have missed, especially
in the music sequence that we talked about with the
generations that we were all kind of like, what the
fuck's going on. I'm curious if I would appreciate it
more or if I would not like it more intenseally
that specific scene on a rewatch. But anyways, I absolutely
(48:43):
loved it. I can't speak highly enough about it, and
I'm going to give this a four point five.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Really, I thought you was gonna Oprah win for you
this shit. You get a five, you get a five,
you get a five, and you get a five.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Well, with that being said, will say that I think
that this is something that's going to become something that
is talked about for a very long time.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, not in the best way possible.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Neither, Yes, in the best way possible.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
No, it's too much controversy for this movie and my liking.
But I'll give my opinion and my rating for this movie.
Talking about the music sequence where we have the past,
you know, and the present and the future all in
one scene, I just want to state that, you know,
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out of all the cultural music, I really didn't see
anything reminiscing like the Temptations or you know that type
of what would you call I don't want to say
do wop, but you know that genre of music. Maybe
I missed that part, but I didn't see any representation
(49:55):
of that, and to me, that was a very big
time period music Motown. That's what I'm looking for us, Yeah,
motown type stuff. Maybe I missed it. I don't know,
but my overall like I'm expressing my negatives and very
little positives. This is kind of hard I'm sitting at Initially,
(50:15):
when I came out of the theater, I head this
at a two and a half, But sitting on it
and thinking about some things, I'm going to give this
a three todd of thunder.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
What oh no, I think I think the mistress over
here said something very profound, which is interpretation. However you
interpret this movie is how you're going to feel about it.
You interpret it very differently than me and her. So
I'm on par I gave this a four and a half.
I loved this film. The only negative I had is
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that multi generation scene where that's the only thing that
felt kind of just funky to me. Other than that,
I was okay with everything. Four and a half. Well,
there you have it. There's the rating of thirteen thirty
one over here. And we just wanted to take time
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and say thank you for yes Satan.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
I just want to say that I hope that if
you have not seen this in theaters yet, that we
have inspired you to go watch it for nothing else
to figure out which side of the fence you fall on.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Well, if you follow on my side, I'll try to
catch you, but just remember it's just me catching you,
so don't have very much help. But no, you're gonna
have plenty of parking spaces park my fucking foot in
your ass. But one thing I'm not gonna park and
(51:49):
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Speaker 2 (52:14):
Tudlou Bye, My Little Monsters Day.
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What's Up? And welcome back to thirteen thirty one. I'm
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Only Todd of Thunder What's Up? And the Mistress of
the Monsters Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hey, my little monsters.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And we're back with another movie review, the hit blockbuster Sinners,
the movie that is taking America by storm, so to speak. Yeah,
we went. I saw this movie last Friday. We've been
sitting on this for a hot minute, mostly because of me,
because I have been trying to figure out how to
(01:11):
go about this, because this movie has a lot of
controversy around it. Would you would you say that there's
controversy around Centers.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I think that Centers has led to some really big discussions.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
We're going to get into those discussions today. What about you, Todd,
Have you heard any controversy on your end?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Well, I have seen controversy from the public, but I
don't say the big fucking dale.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So well, it's it's kind of like a hit or
miss thing for some people. But I guess to give
you a heads up, we're probably going to be diving
into a lott of spoilers, a lot of spoilers and
tailor alert, so just go ahead if you haven't seen it,
which by now, I feel like the whole world has
(01:58):
seen it, because we're recording this on Wednesday, and that
was Friday, so it's almost been a week. So Misscellana.
What was your overall takeaway from Sinners? Mm?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, something that I thought was interesting is walking into
the theater, I had this kind of buzz and excited
energy that I don't get super often anymore. A lot
of times I go in almost kind of anxious and
nervous because I know we're gonna be talking about it,
and some of the movies that we've seen this year
have not been so great, not really, but this one
(02:32):
was felt a little bit different for me. And then
it's like I almost just knew I was gonna absolutely
love this movie. I had. Man, this was such a
fun ride for me. I loved almost every single aspect
of this movie, and I'm excited to dive into it
and go into a little bit more detail, but overall,
absolutely fully loved this movie.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Thunder from down Under, What was your overall experience for
this movie?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Well, I was kind of the same way I went
into this film knowing that this film had a good budget,
it had name actors, and I was expecting a couple
big things from it. Thought the trailer obviously grabbed my attention.
I was ready for the ride, and for I would
(03:21):
say the majority of it. I enjoyed the ride.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I I'm mixed on my end. I yeah, I don't
know how to dive into this. I personally did not
care for this movie. I'm like the one percent on
the internet that didn't really care for this movie.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
But you know it's awesome about that though, is the
fact that it allows us to have a much more
fun conversation.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Well, miss Lana, we will see how much of a
fun conversation it's going to be. I have no faith
that this is going to be fun. I think this
is going to be very heavy, honestly. But go ahead
and tell the colt out there what brief synopsis or
tell them a little bit about Sinners. Sure so.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Sinners is a brand new vampire horror film that is
directed by Ryan Coochler. It stars Michael B. Jordan as
twin brothers Smoke and Stack, who returned to nineteen thirty
two Mississippi to open a juke joint. Their plans are
disrupted by Remick, an Irish vampire played by Jack O'Connell.
(04:38):
The film blends historical realism with supernatural horror, exploring themes
of cultural appropriation and historical trauma.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, that is very on the nose with describing this movie.
So I guess in order to end on a good note,
I guess we got to start with the sour note.
And I guess, since I'm the biggest sour puss, I
will dive into the dislikes on my end, and y'all
(05:09):
can chime in if you want to, and you can
challenge me on this, Okay, So I've.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Made you give us permission. You can't fuss when we.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Challenge, and you know what, throw it out there if
you think that we feel differently, I know you are,
so well, we just want your cue about it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
We don't want to be like, well wait a minute, motherfucker. No, No,
go ahead, chime in. So I'm going to let y'all
know my dislikes because I have a list. They don't
have a list, I'm assuming. So my first dislike for
this movie, I thought the sex scenes were kind of
just unnecessary. Honestly, Well, I can get behind you on
(05:52):
that because if you cut them out and nothing changes, I.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Will agree with that. I agree they didn't offend me,
but I will agree with your statement.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I'm not gonna say they offended me. It was more
they were kind of useless. Yeah, they was useless. It didn't.
The only one that kind of made any sense, you know,
it being cinners was the preacher boy and the the
married woman. Well they were all married, but anyway, Yeah,
(06:22):
that one made sense because he was sinning and he
knew he was sinning, and it was a married woman
and stuff like that. But the other ones were just unnecessary.
I found it to be poor lighting in several situations,
particularly when it was outside. It had moments of great lighting,
(06:42):
and then it had moments of like I can't see
what the fuck is going on, and it gave me
like a VP recreem vibes. I might be on the
island by myself on that one, but that's just how
I felt. One big problem I had was with Sam.
I couldn't understand what the fuck he was saying half
(07:05):
the time.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I will agree with you on that one. When now
his singing totally different story. But when he was speaking,
there were some times where I was like, bro, what
are you saying?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Like?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Open mouth a little bit, it's all he got cotton balls.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It was his take on a Southern accent, and it
was it wasn't that great.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Honestly, he had a very unique voice too. I think
it has something to do with it. It's just I
think the way that his voice is combined with that
Southern accent. But I get what you're saying for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You want to know what's funny about that? I was
kind of the opposite way when he was talking. I
could understand him. When he first started singing, I didn't
know what the fuck he was saying. Well, I kind
of dis agree with you, I don't. I couldn't understand
a lot of what he was singing. Oh really yeah,
it sounded like he had a mouthful of marbles. It
was like if Bubba could carry a tune. Like when
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he was talking, it was more like, hey, you know whatever.
But when he started was like, you know, kind of
like that old black man, And I'm like it was
it was kind of shocking to begin been seeing that
he's how old is he supposed to be? Like eighteen
in the film.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I don't think he's too far from that age ineral life.
He's probably like early twenty so when he started singing
any Headbird, old black Man, and Vault.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
At least got an old soul when it comes to his.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, yeah, but you know it, it eventually worked out
for me. But go ahead. I don't think that the
overall quotation theme of sinners was explored enough, Like the
whole sinning concept. I don't think that that was really there.
They didn't really dive into it.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, I personally, I think they they did. I just
think that for the time period, if you put what
they put on a pedestal of what was bad behavior
in twenty twenty five, that's just something everybody does every
single day, Yeah, you know what I mean. So I
think it might have been one of those you know,
(09:06):
I mean just going to what they called the Jute Joint,
which is basically a club now right, you know, Yeah,
that's a Saturday night for anybody. You know, you'd be
the last one to leave the club, first one in
the church.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
These days. Well, I still I don't think it was
explored much. I mean, I feel like it was kind
of a missed opportunity if anything.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I mean, yeah, I can see what you're saying. I
do think though, that there was a lot in this
film that was very like subtle. There's a lot of
metaphors there was. I mean, even just if you think
about Remick, our first introduction to him is the scene
where he falls from the sky. We get that shot
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looking down on him, and from if you're thinking of
it from a Christian perspective, Lucifer was a fallen angel.
There was a lot of things that really kind of
made Remix seem like a metaphor for Lucifer. I mean,
he was literally like Sammy called him the devil when
he first saw him, which was more blatant in your face,
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but there was also a lot of like really subtle
things that if you have a Christian background or any
knowledge about the Bible and like who Lucifer is, that
kind of go hand in hand, which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I'm right there with you. It was a lot
of the devil references without calling him the devil, except
for like once or a couple of times that Sammy
called him the devil. But another I'm glad you brought
up one thing another aspect that I didn't quite understand
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and why they were just in it for five seconds,
was the Native Americans? So I'm five seconds and then
they were like out was a very.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Like yeah, yeah, why were they there for just a
split second and then never talked about again.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, I mean it didn't like if you take them out,
nothing changes.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah. I thought that myself, actually, like is this going
to play back into the story or whatever. But then
I thought to myself, well, it kind of reminded me
of the scene in John Carpenter's The Thing where you
see the Norwegian people at the beginning and then you
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really don't know what the fuck while they were there,
but you find out that this thing happened to them
before it got to the base. So I'm thinking it
happened to the Native Americans before it got here.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Right, which could go into a backstory, It could go
into a sequel or prequel crease.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Which I think is what happened. I mean, they said
right there at the end of their little scene of
we need to get back before dark, which was at
that point we didn't know that remake. I mean, we
knew from the trailer that we were we were watching
a vampire film, right, But in watching the movie, we
weren't yet made aware that he was a vampire, and
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that was kind of the first little allusion to it,
because vampires come out at night. But it was a
little bit of confusion for me in that scene of
he's out in the sunlight. I mean, yeah, his skin's burning,
but like, what's happening here?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, it didn't. It didn't make sense to me because
at the end of the movie, he started like catching
on fire almost immediately, right, So one of these things
just don't make sense. So I thought that this movie,
the plot progression was fucking slow. Oh my god, it
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was like watching fucking paint dry for me. I just
I couldn't get into it. I kept checking my watch,
and you don't get vampires until an hour into the movie.
An hour and a half into the fucking movie.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I think it is like an hour and a half.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Well, normally I'm right there with you. However, we've kind
of you know, we talked amongst ourselves how we enjoyed
the story. So for those of us who enjoyed it,
it didn't seem very long. We were on board with it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, I just so the cult knows like we, like
he said, we've had this conversation already, but I just
want the cult to be aware. You were listening to
a video talking about Sinners, and he said that it
was two and a half hours long, and I was like, what,
I had no idea like, I was personally like, I hate,
I hate. I know how it feels to be like,
oh my god, this movie is dragging on and you're
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totally valid in your feelings. I don't know why we
felt so differently about that aspect of it, but I
was so enthralled by the story that I was just like,
and normally, this is another thing. I think it's funny.
It's normally I have to pee when he's that long.
And I was so into it, I didn't even have
to be.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, yeah, But we definitely know where you're coming from it.
If you don't enjoy the ride, it's it's gonna feel
like a long fucking ride. But if you enjoy it,
you know it doesn't seem that bad.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I think the thing that made me count the tiles
in the ceiling, so to speak, is that most of
the movie, this is another rolling into My next negative
is that most of this movie is spent opening this
fucking bar like ninety percent of this movie is spent
opening bar, opening the bar for fucking nothing, and then
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it's like a short vampire fight movie over. I'm like,
the fuck. I thought it was just I thought it
was just fucking weak. It was like it was like
lighting a bottle rocket and you think it's gonna take
off instantly, and then you're sitting there fucking a half
hour later and then all of a sudden, out of
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know where, and then it's over. But that's just my opinion.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah, I think to us it was just character development.
We were establishing who these characters were, how they were,
how they moved about, and what their in gold was.
Their end goal was to get this jute joint up
and running, and we went on the journey with them
of how they were going to do it, from who
they were going to have at security, to who they
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were going to cook, to who they were going to
run the bar, the whole nine yards. That might have
been something that maybe you would have cut out or whatever,
but I appreciated what they showed us.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I don't think that I would have appreciated the movie
as much without it, because I wouldn't have been invested
in those characters or give a shit about what happened
to them.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, because you run into this, you run into this
deal where you get how you feel Ripper where it
was kind of pointless, and then you get to the
other people that would go there was no character development.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I wouldn't say that it was useless. I wouldn't say
that I don't enjoy character development. I just don't enjoy
how they did the character development was this movie? I
felt like they drug the character developed me out. Okay,
so they drug the character development out and put a
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bunch of filler in that was unnecessary.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Like the sex scenes. Is that what you mean?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
The sex scenes? Some of the monologue was unnecessary. I
mean you can summarize these characters within I don't know,
forty minutes. I mean I can talk about them and
summarize them in less time. And how come it took
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like over half the movie to establish these characters when
on paper, it's not a lot of depth to them.
They don't give you a lot. They say it's character development,
but you don't give us a lot about these characters.
You say that you're giving backstory to these characters, but
can you really honest tell me that you know these
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characters inside and out. As long as this movie took place,
you should know they're fucking beginning and end at least
for the brothers, but you don't.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But it was one day.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yeah, okay, Well, I mean, well, hang on, I guess
so I don't know. Hey, let's just sum it up
like this. We liked it, you didn't, and that's okay. Well,
I mean if it's one day, I just I don't
understand a two fucking hour runtime. Like I get you're
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saying it's one day, but they're spending all this quote
unquote time with character to development, but they're by the
end of the movie. You really don't know these characters
one hundred percent or not even fifty percent.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, I can't speak for the mom here, but I
was okay with the characters that I did get to know.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I was fine with them. Yeah, okay. Well. Another one
of my big dooty points I guess, so to speak,
is I thought it was fucking genre confused. They tried
to be a fucking musical, a horror, a drama, comedy,
artsy fartsy piece, and it just it was jumbled fucking
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mess to me at first half of the movie doesn't
match the second half of the movie. It's like putting
two pieces of the puzzle together. They kind of look
like they should fit, but you're forcing them to fit.
That's how it came off to me.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
How do you feel about that, mom?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
This is hard because I don't want to feel like
I'm just like, well, shitting on your opinion. I'm trying
to I actually personally really liked that. This felt to
me like a melting pot of genres. And what is
kind of mind boggling to me is the fact that
normally I would feel the same way you two of
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like damn, maybe couldn't make up their kind of what
it wanted to be. But for some reason, the way
that this is written and executed I was I loved
every part of it. I loved the drama, the romance,
the crime thriller, the music part, the horror elements that
we got which I could have used a little bit
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more of that, but just the overall the way that
it all came together created this beautiful picture, this interesting story,
this fun vampire moment. Like to me, this was one
of those fun vampires, not spooky, scary the vampires, and
I liked that.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I agree with you, I think if it wasn't for
the first half of the film, the second half wouldn't
have been so awesome For me.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I don't feel I feel like it was two different movies.
I feel like that if you take the vampire out
of this movie and it's just a time it's just
a period piece.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, and well that's one of the reasons why I
like it, because the vampire is not supposed to be
in this movie. The fact that it is in the
movie is like, how we go from like normal nineteen
thirty two. You know, these these black people trying to
open up a jute joint to vampires. Some people like
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you will get well, that's too different. What the fuck's
going on? To me, I'm like, that's fucking great. It's
not supposed to happen, which is why I like it.
It's not supposed to be vampires in nineteen thirty two
fucking up a jute joint.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
See, I don't mind that. But it was no it
was no build up for it. It was just like, Okay,
we're focusing on the brothers. Okay, we're focusing on this story,
we're developing these characters, and then oh, by the way,
there's vampires.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, well, you know, it kind of had like one
of those Well, it kind of has a Marvel movie
type of thing where you see the bad guy for
like two seconds and it's all about the good guys
and then all of a sudden, here comes bad guys,
and then the good guys.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Have to deal with the bad guy. I'll give you that,
But I like the journey that we went on. I
thought it was more like Django meets Twilight meets West
Side Story. I didn't get Twilight vibes not.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
There because you haven't even seen all the Twilight movies.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Whatever, Twatlight it's it no, not a I'm not a
fan of the twat Light movies. But my big, big,
big problem. And I know I've seen on the inner
web people say, oh, this is a lazy opinion. It's
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very satire opinion of you to have, and it's it's
a modern day from dust till Don, Like it's almost verbatim.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yes, but don't you love dust till Don? So why
do you hate this one so much?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Because I've already seen dust till Don. Yeah, but dust
Till Don it wasn't quite light. I mean it was
a little bit like it. Motherfucker please, not really. I
mean it was with the two brothers but young antagonists.
But can't locked in a bar. Can't you say though,
that the main character's father is a priest? I can
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keep going.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
No, no, I'm going back to what you said where
this movie felt like two different movies. Well, can't you
say the same thing that the first half of Dustill
Down doesn't match the second half of Dustill Dawn.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
This isn't about from Dustill Down. This is the fact
that this movie straight up blatantly ripped this movie off.
I don't think it blatantly it did. I would say
the fuck out here, will I'll give.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
You forty percent of it? Yeah, I'll give you forty percent.
I don't think it completely ripped it off. No, it
changed the period that that's it. The ending of Sinners,
the vampire aspect of Sinners, the end part, most of
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the main part, but mostly the vampire aspect of it
is exactly from dust Till Dawn. There's no fucking if
if Anne's butts and nuts about it, You've got two
main brothers, one level had straight to the point, one
out of his fucking mind.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Crazy. Quentin Tarantino wasn't really charming, though, I'll give that
element to it. Main young character, Bob, did you say
May Young? Maine Young said May Young. The rest was,
oh my god, character quit trying to quit, trying to
throw me off. Her father is a fucking priest. It
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takes place in a bar. They're fighting to get out.
You only have two survivors at the end of the movie.
Your main cool guy that's you know, we know, is
that type of you know, going to survive no matter what.
And the young character there's the heart wrenching love interest.
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That not love interest, but it's that heart wrenching character
like the Asian kid that has to be killed because
he's going to turn. Oh that sounds like smoke or
sacks girl and Annie Annie exact same fucking scene.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
She like begs him to kill her before she turns.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Huh happening from Dustill don I mean, I can keep
going with the fucking the similarities here. Well, to be fair,
in Sinners, there was only one survivors Smoke God. Okay,
they changed the ending a little bit. The only thing
that I will give you with this movie. I know
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some people are gonna say, well, from Dustill, Donna is
a be ridded vampire movie whatever suck my fucking ass.
The van looked way better and from dust till Don,
but this movie, the story leading up to the point,
was probably more interesting than Well, it's definitely shot better
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than from Dustill Down, but I still prefer from Dustill Down.
And that's my biggest problem with this. And I'm surprised
you didn't point this out, and you didn't fucking see this.
It's the very first thing I said to you when
you came out of the fucking theater. You said it
kind of reminded me. I'm like, in the back of
my head, I'm like, yes, but I was the first
one kind of well, that's the way I felt. It
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kind of reminded me. Oh, okay, well, I'm here to
point out that there's more of a kind of I
watched some interviews with the director of this movie, and
he said that he got some influences from X, Y
and Z vampires movies, and he did acknowledge from dust
Till Don, thank god. But he also said that he
got the look in the fucking concept of this movie
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for the vampires. Could you possibly guess where he got
the influence and look of the vampires for this goddamn
movie Pussing Boots.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I thought that was just the eyes.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Nope, the fucking plot. He one for one took the
he he didn't say he took the character. He said
got influence. But going back, I watched the comparison the
evil villain in Pussing Boots? Is was his riddick? Is
that his name of the vampire remick one for one?
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Even the fucking red eyes, even the way the mannerisms
and talking. Oh yeah, it's fucking mind blowing. The more
the more research I do on this movie, the more
like shit I find, The more I'm like, this is
the hill I'm choosing to die on. Yeah, I'm trying
to come up there and patch you up, but you
won't let me. Yeah, well, so, oh good stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, you're you're in a parking lot all by yourself,
but at least you won't be bothered.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Is there any good things that y'all want to bring
up or y'all good?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Well? What I find interesting is you know you touched
on you didn't touch on it. You talked about how
you felt like this was such a slow burn, and
then all of a sudden boom, vampire's done for me.
The best way I can think of to describe how
I felt with the pacing of this movie is like
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you put a pot of water on the stove and
you turn it on high, and it sits there pretty cool,
calm and collected for a moment. Then you start seeing
some bubbles start simmering, and it goes pretty quick from
simmering to a full rolling boil. That's what this felt
like to me. We had a whole It took a
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long time for it to warm up to the horror
part of the movie. It's simmered there for a second,
and then it's turned into a rolling boil. And when
you're boiling water, you're making some posters, you're making something good.
And that's what he was for me. It rounded out
the story, give me what I wanted, give me a
(28:17):
fun vampire moment, and I was happy with it.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
And I also believe that if you take out the
vampire aspect, let's say that the director, instead of going
with the vampire very much, could have went with like
the demon aspect of it. I think that would have
worked as well in this film, and maybe it even
would have worked better. Seeing that the film was called
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Sinners maybe they should have instead of being vampires, they
should have been demons. Certainly would have fit the theme
a little bit more better. What do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I think this movie was just a bunch of pieces
that he took. I ain't gonna say influence from him,
but he took other story and put it together and
then made a Frankenstein monster. Well that's okay with me.
I like Frankenstein's Monster, yeah, but I don't like this
Frankenstein's monster. This is like sci fi level monster. Well,
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you know, it's like, Oh, I'm gonna take elements of
from Dust Till Dawn and put it right here, and
we'll take a little old brother warth All. I won't
put it right here. I'll take a little bit of life,
put it right here. Oh, I'm we'll take a little
bit of legend right here. Oh. You know what, I
really liked that movie Pussing Boots.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I'm gonna take that and you know, just.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Just cook it up and you know, still everybody else's
fucking idea and then make one big, convoluted idea. Love it.
I don't know, I like all those movies though, Yeah
he did too, And then he made one big fucking dips,
one big fucking fart fest.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
No, it was a beautiful melting pot.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
No, and the melting pot of shit.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well yeah, like I said, man, you're on an aland
by yourself on this one, brother, and I've been calling you.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Hey, what fuck you? Fuck you too.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
On a more serious note, though, I think that there's
probably people that feel the same way that you do
that are going to be like, oh, finally someone can
see it from my perspective. So I am very grateful
that you did not shy away and you shared your thoughts,
and I'd like, I just want to say, your thoughts
and your feelings are one hundred percent vaalid and I'm
not putting them down. Just because I saw it differently
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doesn't mean I can't value the way that you saw
than what your perspective was on it.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
And good for you actually being able to say what
you did not like about this movie other than these
idiots on TikTok that are following trends and making it
about either race or religion. Good for you.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, well, I feel like when people dive into that
ass respect of it, I feel like it's kind of
like a lazy, cheap way out of being offended by something.
It's like somebody being offended by you accidentally calling a
mammer sir.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah. And how.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Idiotic of it to go into a movie called Sinners
and come out and say, well, that goes against my spirit, right,
like shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah. Well, on a positive note, we will go ahead
and dive into the positive aspect of this now, mister thunder,
So go ahead, and I guess kick off the good
time vibes. I guess so to.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Speak, Well, some of the things that I really liked
about this film. You guys know that I like isolated
films that take place in areas that doesn't seem like
a whole lot of help is coming along. I think
that makes for a great little movie when you know
there's no hope come around the corner and you kind
of kind of have to thin for yourself. So this
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a movie, even though it was a kind of a
long movie, it didn't seem that way. But the majority
of the action takes place place at this juke joint,
as it's called. So I like that the atmosphere in it.
I was vibing with it. It took place in nineteen
thirty two. I felt like it was nineteen thirty two.
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I didn't have to use my imagination for it. The
music that they used in it, this was very music heavy.
Of course, one of the themes about the film is
how music can kind of conjure up evil spirits and
demons that you might not want, kind of like that
you know, old saying, you know, don't listen to that
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type of music. It's the devil's music. It kind of
goes off that superstition type of deal. I liked Michael B.
Jordan's performances as the brothers in this film. I really
like the the other kid that was Preacher Boy that
he was referred to most in the film. Honestly, it
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kind of centered around him more than Michael B.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Jordan.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Obviously, Michael B. Jordan as the brothers were kind of
like the heavy hitter stars in this but the overall
story kind of revolved around Preacher Boy because he's the
one with the gift of guitar playing, and he's not
a bad singer.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Either, and this was his first film ever.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Well that's even more impressive because I thought he did
a very good job the vampires. The way they made him,
I thought it was very unique. Usually in a vampire flick,
they're either really vicious to the point where they're almost animalistic,
or they're nope, sparkly.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, these vampires were like they were like humans, but
their whole deal was just become a vampire.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
So much better. Like that was it, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
And I enjoyed that, But it's still kind of being
intimidating and being, you know, something you don't want to
be around. But at the same time, they could talk
to you, and I like the fact that they didn't
force themselves when they could, they would try to convince
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you to make the choice first, and if you didn't
make the choice, then that's when they were like, Okay,
we'll just tear you apart.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I enjoyed that little option thing. But at the end
of the film, or by the end of the film,
like I said at the beginning, I went on the ride.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
And yeah, I always say, I can't convince anybody else
to like the film. I can just tell you why
I like And those were some of the reasons why
I like it. Other than what we normally go over, score, cinematography,
all that stuff, this movie was top notch. When it
comes to all of that, right, it's yeah, it was
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very thought provocating. Is that the right word provoking? Provoking? Poke,
poke me whatever?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Anyway, Yeah, Misscellana Todd has named a lot of good
positives about this on his end. So what was some
things that stood out to you and intrigued you?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Well, the opening scene was pretty heavy. We see our
preacher boy really torn to shreds limping obviously hurt, carrying
half of a guitar. And there's a scene between him
and his dad where he's you know, telling him to
come back to God and leave all this behind him,
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and we're like, what happened? What happened? And then it
jumps back in time. Now, by I jump back in time,
I mean literally this entire movie is over the course
of one day.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
The end is the beginning.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Right yeah, and right after that though, when we jump
back for the next almost actually, I think over half
of the movie is where there really isn't much horror
going on. It's more of the drama, the romance, the
kind of crime thriller aspect, lots of character development and
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background stories to get to know these characters. And I
think most of the time, like I feel like I
would be bored, but the way that this was done,
I wasn't at all, And it made me actually care
about each of these characters, even the ones that I
didn't really like. I wanted to know what happened to them.
I was invested, and there was a one part where
(36:58):
I had this moment I was like, oh wait, I'm
much in a horror movie. Almost forgot But I wasn't
mad about it, like I feel like I would be
in a lot of other movies. He just did it
so well in the.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Way did not make you mad for this one.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Because I was so like I said, I was so
invested in the story and the characters. I was enthralled
by what I was, what I was seeing, what I
was hearing, what I was watching, The music how I
touched on this. The guy that actually did the score
is Ludwig Gorenson, who just won an Oscar for his
work in Oppenheimer. He'd won previously for Black Panther. The music,
(37:36):
to me, was really like the heartbeat behind this film.
It was what the overall like. It was a It
was a constant pushing the movie forward and exploring the
story more. And music is such an important thing to me.
I thought it was really cool how they talked about
I mean, yes, they talked about how it can summon
(37:58):
like demons and things like that, but it also talked
about out like how can bring people together and join
people from different generations and aspects of life. And I
thought that was really beautiful.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
That scene was definitely interesting. I thought it was all right.
There's some things in it that I didn't really care for,
but I'm not going to go into that aspect of
it personally. I guess I'll talk about some of my
likes that I do have for this movie. I thought
(38:29):
the acting of this movie was pretty spot on. I've
always been a big supporter of Michael B. Jordan Todd
knows that. Ah, my friends know that. I love the
Creed movies and absolutely great which this director did the
Creed movies too. I thought it was kind of an
interesting setup. It was. It was the period piece. Definitely
(38:54):
felt like the time period they did. They did know that.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Aspect of it, theduction to the character, like the costume design,
it was all. It was very lived in.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, I definitely enjoyed it. It definitely had that time period,
like down to a tee. As far as that goes.
That's honestly. I mean the music in the movie was
very soulful. I enjoy blues music personally. Whether I'm allowed
to or not, that's a different story and that's a
(39:25):
different conversation, but I don't know that that's pretty much
my that's pretty much my only like positives.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I also one of the things that I loved about
Michael B. Jordan. I mean, we've seen him in a
lot so far. We already know that he's a fantastic actor.
But what I think is so cool is that we've
seen it done before where one character plays or one
actor plays multiple characters. Yes, and sometimes that can become
kind of gimmicky and almost take you out of it
because you know it's the same person. In this film,
(39:57):
I felt like each of his characters were very distinct
and different, and I felt like I was watching two
different people.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
I definitely can get behind that somewhat. I think that
that's a very accurate statement. He was on par as
much as Tom Hardy was in Legend. I know you
haven't watched Legend about the two brothers that are gangsters,
and they they feel like night and day different, but
(40:26):
you know it's crazy. They feel like Coen Brothers and
Michael b did a very good job and making each
character different, like the difference between Smoke and Stack, Like
one smiling and you know, very charming, I guess, so
to speak, and the other one's very straightforward, serious, business minded,
(40:49):
very short with what he says, short and sweet, straight
to the point. Yep, Yeah, I dug that aspect of it.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
But I also felt like I just wanted to touch
on Hailey Steinfeldt for a second because I felt like
she didn't get a whole lot of a whole lot
of screen time, but when she did, I felt like
she commanded the screen and she played her role so well.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
She I guess I really haven't stopped to think about
her performance that much. Really, she definitely she was she
was something. I mean, I don't know. I kind of
found her kind of bitchy. I don't know why. I
don't know if it was her voice or attitude, but
(41:35):
maybe it was my attitude. Hello, I don't know. At
this point.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Now, she had some spunk and I liked it.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Well, was there anything on y'all's end that you found
to be negative? Mister Thunder?
Speaker 3 (41:48):
The only thing I didn't like in the film was
there was this kind of fantasy scene where it kind
of connected all the generations of music together from that
time period up until the sixties and seventies, eighties, the
hip hop era of the nineties and on like that,
(42:09):
and it kind of came out of nowhere. And I
understand and get what they were trying to do. They
were trying to say, you know, music is universal, music
is you know, you can't have this without that, and
blah blah blah, you know that whole aspect of it.
But I thought it went on extremely too long, and
(42:30):
it just happened. They didn't like it went from this
great performance by the Preacher Boy to this. I would
have rather just seen Preacher Boy just perform that whole scene.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I agree with you completely, And that's actually what I
was going to say too, is like the beginning of
it was really good when it was just really it
was just him and Slick on the piano. But as
it went on, I got very lost and it was
hard to keep up with and realize what all was happening. Actually, Ripper,
you pointed out some things I didn't even see.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, it was some things in there that I personally
don't care for But I'm with y'all. I I thought
the scene was fucking stupid. I'm just I'm just gonna
put it like that. I thought it was fucking stupid.
But I do agree with y'all and preacher boy, I
(43:22):
did like where it was going. I was getting that like,
oh brother arthoul like meets life type vibe going on.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, it felt very spiritual there for a minute.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, little bit it did.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
It felt like we were seeing like a real scene,
and then the rest of it felt like a forced performance. Yeah,
you know, it's something like one of those you know,
kind of like when you see the halftime of the
super Bowl and you're just like, you know what, that
would have been better if you just stand.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
There and song instead of all this stupid shit, right exactly. Well,
as always, we tell you there were use and the
census before we dive into it ourselves. So, miscellana, since
this is a big movie, probably going to be the
biggest talk of the summer, what did it do as
(44:17):
far as money? This is kind of a new thing.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Well, Sinners was actually number one at box office this weekend,
so it made forty eight million dollars domestically, So in
the United States and sixty three million globally an opening weekend.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
So is that sixty three like total or is that
like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
So sixty three I think overall worldwide?
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Okay? And it had one hundred million budget it.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Says ninety plus, so somewhere between ninety one hundred.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
So it hasn't broke even yet anyway.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
In one weekend and it wasn't okay? Can we talk
about the fact that a horror movie was number one
at the box office.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
I don't find this to be a horror movie. Horrible movie, oh,
Mark Alanta, Well, you know, speaking of horrible, let's talk
about the Google audience rating over at uh Google. So
the audience rating has this at a four point five
out of five. Not surprising, Mister Letterbox, we don't really
(45:20):
talk about Letterbox too much, but has it at a
four point three out of five? Not surprising? I'm deba
or IMDb is got this at a eight point two
out of ten, not surprising. I'm surprised. I thought they
would have gave this thing a ten. Now, of course,
the biggest thing making the waves that everybody's talking about
(45:44):
the reviews on is the tomatoes that are rotten. So
do y'all want the popcorn meter or the tomato meter?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
First, wait, which one tomato meter is that? The critics, Yes, yes,
I agree.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
Well, the critics, with two hundred and ninety nine reviews
have this at a certified fresh ninety eight percent. Whow.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yeah, honestly, none of these are surprising. I heard that
the critics did like the film.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Well, the audience rating at ten thousand plus verified ratings
hot and fresh or whatever it is, certified whatever the
hell it is for the audience has this only at
one percent lower at ninety seven percent.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Considering all the negative talk surrounding this, and it's usually
about the religion aspect of it, yeah, I think a
lot of people just watched it just like me and
you did, and just had fun with it and just said,
you know, the hell with all this crazy stuff or whatever.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
I'm on the the island by myself. I don't get
this one. I don't think this is what I'm going
to get. But you know, I will say this, I
will watch this movie when it comes out again, and
maybe maybe I'll like it on a second rewatch. Maybe
maybe it is me. I don't know. I can only
(47:19):
give my perspective in my honest opinion of this, and
I tend to you know, I know I'm a little
harsh on the ratings and stuff like that and you know, reviews,
but it's honestly how I feel, and if you know
I feel a certain way, I feel like that I
owe it to whoever's listening to this to be one
(47:42):
hundred percent honest and genuine. Yes, So I guess, Miss Atlanta,
I'll get you to kick it off, then I'll give
my rating and then will end with mister Thunder because
I know mine is going to be different than both
of y'all. Question.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Man, I I'm smiling right now because I had such
a good time with this movie. I honestly wouldn't mind
going and seeing it in theaters again, which I have
never gone back to the theater to see a movie twice.
But I think that there was a lot in this
film that really was kind of open ended. It was
(48:20):
up for interpretation, and I'm curious how I would feel
about a lot of things on the second watch and
if there are things that I may have missed, especially
in the music sequence that we talked about with the
generations that we were all kind of like, what the
fuck's going on. I'm curious if I would appreciate it
more or if I would not like it more intenseally
that specific scene on a rewatch. But anyways, I absolutely
(48:43):
loved it. I can't speak highly enough about it, and
I'm going to give this a four point five.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
Really, I thought you was gonna Oprah win for you
this shit. You get a five, you get a five,
you get a five, and you get a five.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Well, with that being said, will say that I think
that this is something that's going to become something that
is talked about for a very long time.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, not in the best way possible.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Neither, Yes, in the best way possible.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
No, it's too much controversy for this movie and my liking.
But I'll give my opinion and my rating for this movie.
Talking about the music sequence where we have the past,
you know, and the present and the future all in
one scene, I just want to state that, you know,
(49:32):
out of all the cultural music, I really didn't see
anything reminiscing like the Temptations or you know that type
of what would you call I don't want to say
do wop, but you know that genre of music. Maybe
I missed that part, but I didn't see any representation
(49:55):
of that, and to me, that was a very big
time period music Motown. That's what I'm looking for us, Yeah,
motown type stuff. Maybe I missed it. I don't know,
but my overall like I'm expressing my negatives and very
little positives. This is kind of hard I'm sitting at Initially,
(50:15):
when I came out of the theater, I head this
at a two and a half, But sitting on it
and thinking about some things, I'm going to give this
a three todd of thunder.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
What oh no, I think I think the mistress over
here said something very profound, which is interpretation. However you
interpret this movie is how you're going to feel about it.
You interpret it very differently than me and her. So
I'm on par I gave this a four and a half.
I loved this film. The only negative I had is
(50:51):
that multi generation scene where that's the only thing that
felt kind of just funky to me. Other than that,
I was okay with everything. Four and a half. Well,
there you have it. There's the rating of thirteen thirty
one over here. And we just wanted to take time
(51:13):
and say thank you for yes Satan.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
I just want to say that I hope that if
you have not seen this in theaters yet, that we
have inspired you to go watch it for nothing else
to figure out which side of the fence you fall on.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Well, if you follow on my side, I'll try to
catch you, but just remember it's just me catching you,
so don't have very much help. But no, you're gonna
have plenty of parking spaces park my fucking foot in
your ass. But one thing I'm not gonna park and
(51:49):
is I don't know how to transition this. Thank you
for taking the time in listening to thirteen thirty one.
Like share, subscribe, like share, and subscribe on all all
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thirty one horror cast across the board, and as always,
(52:10):
thank you for tuning in. I'm ripper and I'm taught
of thunderstand.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Tudlou Bye, My Little Monsters Day.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
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