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February 18, 2026 65 mins
90s TV Babies Meet The Golden Girls: Uncovering Timeless Comedy | 80s TV Podcast

Join co-hosts Susan Lambert Hatem and Sharon Johnson as they welcome back the “’90s TV Babies”—Sergio Perez, Sailor Franklin, and Serita Fontanesi—plus first-time (almost silent) guest: the 20s² TV Baby Theo —for a 2026 discussion of The Golden Girls.

The group is assigned a lineup of key episodes across Seasons 1, 2, 4, 6, and the two-part series finale.

They catch up on the last six months: Serita welcomes baby Theo (nearly six months old), shares his love of his Paddington bear, and talks about returning to work; Sailor celebrates a new solo apartment in South Pasadena, a promotion to visual and performing arts associate at a nonprofit, and performing in a 134 West variety show (“Merry Queerness: A Wildly Inappropriate Holiday Show”) featuring a “Last Christmas” number; Sergio describes his first “adult summer” without children’s theater, a year in a new apartment with Koji, and travel to the dunes at Pismo Beach.

Theo’s teething, sock-removing, and foot-in-mouth milestones frequently steal the spotlight.

On The Golden Girls, the guests discuss its lasting impact, rapid-fire joke writing, and how boldly early seasons tackled topics like LGBTQ+ themes, age gaps, consent/power dynamics, teen pregnancy, grief, and loss—often balancing heart with humor. 

Sergio admits he’s watching the series for the first time and praises the show’s intelligence and influence on later sitcoms; Sailor highlights the value of 24-plus-episode seasons and names Dorothy as her favorite; Sergio chooses Rose and admires Betty White’s performance.

They single out “Mrs. George Devereaux” for its emotional weight and structure, and critique the pacing and feel of the series finale’s ending. They also touch on behind-the-scenes context discussed on the podcast, including Estelle Getty’s later-season memory issues and reported tensions between Bea Arthur and Betty White, and briefly fan-cast a hypothetical reboot.

The episode includes a Cozy Earth ad read (41% off with the show’s promo code - ONLY GOOD UNTIL MARCH), mentions a 40th anniversary Golden Girls special on Hulu (2025), shares Serita’s Venmo for diaper money, and plugs Susan’s arts organization Arts à la Carte

The hosts preview upcoming episodes featuring writer/producer/professor Georgia Jeffries (episode 99) and announce Morgan Fairchild as the special guest for the show’s 100th episode.

THE ASSIGNMENT
If you want to watch what the 90s TV Babies watched…
Here is your assignment should you choose to accept it:

S1E1 Pilot, The Engagement
S1.E9 Blanche and the Younger Man
S1.E13 A Little Romance
S1.E25 The Way We Met
S2.E02 Ladies of the Evening
S2.E24 To Catch a Neighbor
S4.E15 Valentine’s Day
S6.E9 Mrs. George Devereaux
S7.25 & S7.26 One Flew Out of the Cuckoo’s Nest

BONUS EXTRA CREDIT EPISODES
S2.E5 Isn’t it Romantic
S2.E21 Dorothy’s Prized Pupil
S6.E14 Sister of the Bride
S7.E2 The Case of the Libertine Bell
S3, Ep1 - Friendship and Memories


00:00 Welcome Back + Golden Girls Episode Assignment
02:24 Meet the Nineties TV Babies (and Baby Theo!)
03:24 Serita’s Life Update: New Baby, Time Off, Paddington Bear
05:04 Sailor’s Update: Shows, Audio Fixes, and Holiday Performance
11:11 Sailor’s Big News: New Apartment + Promotion
12:20 Sergio’s Update: Post-Theater Freedom and Travel Adventures
18:57 Back to the Show: Everyone’s Golden Girls History
24:29 Sailor’s Take: Why Golden Girls Still Hits in 2026
28:39 Campy vs. heartfelt: unpacking the dream episode’s wild tonal mix
30:00 Bring back 24-episode seasons: why filler, flashbacks & character color matter
32:20 Sergio’s first-time watch: rapid-fire jokes, smart writing, and trusting the audience
34:15 Standout lines & bold topics: teen pregnancy, grief, and jokes that land
36:16 Sponsor break: Cozy Earth bamboo sheets (41% off)
36:59 Why Golden Girls still feels ahead of its time (and the case for a reboot)
39:53 Surprises on rewatch: dramatic acting, theater-style sitcoms, and that gut-punch ending
46:38 Favorite Girl debate: Dorothy vs. Rose, and what makes each character click
49:00 Behind-the-scenes: cast dynamics, Estelle Getty’s memory issues, and Betty White lore
53:14 Finale reactions: hating Stan, rushed romance, and an ending without a button
57:26 Monoculture is gone: streaming chaos, reboot realities, and dream fan-casting
01:01:50 Wrap-up & plugs: anniversary special, links, Patreon, and what’s next

AUDIOOGRAPHY


🎙️ FEATURED GUESTS

  • Sergio Perez – Associate Producer, actor, writer & "90s TV Baby"
  • Sailor Franklin – South Pasadena based
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Weirding Way Media.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Eighties Day and so Pretty Ladies Day to the City
Ladies were the money Man World.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello everyone, happy post Valentine's in Gallentine's Day, and welcome
to Eighties TV Ladies, where we explore the fabulous female
driven television shows of the nineteen eighties. I'm your co
host Susan Lambert HadAM and I'm your other co host,
Sharon Johnson. Today's episode is gonna be awesome.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I've been so looking forward to bringing back the nineties
TV Babies and I can't wait to hear what they
think of the Golden Girls.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I know it has been so long since we last
talked with the nineties TV Babies, and now these days
we actually have five nineties TV Babies in rotation. Today
we'll be talking with three of them because seven people
is just too much for one podcast, so we'll be
rotating our ninety TV babies in and out in different configurations.
And I am so excited for today because we have

(01:12):
tasked the nineties TV Babies to watch the following episodes
of Golden Girls. Now, if you want to pause here
and then go quickly watch those episodes well before coming
back to listen.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
To the episode. That's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Here's your assignment, should you choose to accept it. Season
one episode one, Pilot, The Engagement, Season one episode nine,
Blanche on the Younger Man, Season one episode thirteen, A
Little Romance, Season one episode twenty five, The Way We Met,
Season two episode two, Ladies of the Evening, Season two

(01:49):
episode twenty four, To Catch a Neighbor, Season four episode fifteen,
Valentine's Day, Season six episode nine, Miss George Devereaux, and
season seven episodes twenty five and twenty six. The two
final episodes of The Golden Girls one flew Out of

(02:11):
the Cuckoo's Nest, and we gave them some extra bonus
episodes as well, and that list will be in our
description because we could just list off episode after episode
of The Golden Girls. I mean, it's fun for us,
but you.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Know, so without further ado.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
They're happy, they're sassy, they're fabulous and funny. Yes, the
incredible nineties TV babies fresh faced in twenty twenty six.
They are Sergio Perez, Sailor Franklin, and Serta Fontanesi, and
a very special guest star today, little baby Theo Theodore

(02:47):
FONTANESSI Oh, I'm so excited. It's his first appearance on
the podcast, although you won't get to hear him this time,
but who knows what will happen in the future. I know,
Oh my god, special guest appearance.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Welcome to Eighties TV Ladies, nineties TV Babies, Sera sailor
In Sergio.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh my gosh. All right, so we haven't seen you,
all of you for a while. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
I'm sure would love to know what everybody's been up
to over the last six months.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Over let's start with you. I'll start over the last
six months.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
I had a baby. He's almost six months there, he's great,
he's perfect. I took five months off of work, which
was amazing. So I also am just getting back to
having to work for a living again.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
That's if anyone knows how to get rich, quick call in. Well,
we'll still have the venmo in. Yeah, you want to,
you want.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
To, you know, buy theo a cookie bug Serita one and.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Then again, Okay, he'll he'll see, mom's a good food.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
This is fun.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
But yeah, that's been the last six months for me.
Tell me something amazing, sure of.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Like listen.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
His okay, so my brother in law his uh, partner
lives in London and for Christmas from London got him
a Paddington Bear. It's real cute, guys, and he's pretty
obsessed with it. So that's been very wholesome and very precious.

(04:44):
Or else it's of Teddy and his and his Paddington
all right, so is it? Is it Teddy or THEO?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
So we use both?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Would they It's pretty interchangeable until he can tell us
which one he likes.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Uh, you know, like we're really just workshopping them all.
I love it? Okay, Who's next? Sailor?

Speaker 6 (05:06):
You know?

Speaker 7 (05:06):
I was thinking about the last time I was on
ninety TV Babies.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
I think Serena, you announced that you were pregnant. So
the facts.

Speaker 7 (05:17):
Now the baby is here, which congratulations, thank you for me.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
A lot of exciting stuff has been happening for me.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
I've continued working with Susan with Productions for one thirty
four West. We did readings of the Flirt bar or workshops.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And then Susan just took that to Atlanta.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
After we did the workshop, we did Uh Mary Queerness.
I've already forgotten the title of our variety show, but
it was really fun.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
I got to perform it was Merry Queerness, a wildly
inappropriate holiday show and they get an amazing job.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
What oh.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Walk up from his nap and he said, I would
like to be included.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Look at that Look at those cheeks, my baby.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Hi. Immediately yep, that shirt was clean. It's fine. You
can have it. Yeah, baby, Hi, You're so beautiful. I
can't stand it. Oh my god, I'm gonna cry. Listen,
I didn't look at your beautiful things. Get eyes. Oh

(06:38):
my god, Yes, you're so beautiful. Oh my god. I
think she's like, yeah, see, I get anything you want
out of them. Right now.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
It looks like he's getting dimples. Like we've been noticing
little dimples coming in and it's.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Like, whoa, this is dangerous. Yeah, it's yeah, Oh my goodness.
So we'll have a little friend talking about golden girls. Kay,
I'm gonna get so distracted.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Well, I think this is it now, anybody, if you
just play this, it's just staring.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, the whole.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Episode, Teddy, it's just here's a baby.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Here's a baby, and he's adorable, and he's wide eyed
and big cheeked and just good.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Exactly kids, And.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
This is why he loves space time He's like, this
is fun.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Every just goes goga over me.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, okay, Taylor, back to you.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Does this sound better? Yeah? Yeah, it does seem like
getting close to it helps.

Speaker 7 (08:03):
Let me like, let me get real podcast about it.
I'll just like sink down in my shair.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Whoa, it's strange. Sorry about that. I don't know what's
a closing it.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I bet you THEO cansult it by getting that sock
off of his foot.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
That that's the other big THEO update is And we
can now get our foot in our mouth and that's
pretty exciting.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Now he's like, watched this party tray. Oh my goodness,
give him a headset and a mic. Get this baby
on the mic. Yeah. He's like, I found a foot.
It's got to suck on it.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
And within a week, I'm gonna be able to pull
that sock off anytime I want.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I know.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Bigger's gonna be really upset when she finds out this
baby does not keep socks on?

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Did he pull the other one off himself? Almost?

Speaker 5 (09:03):
And I said, you know what, we're just gonna before
because the thing is the dogs also are like, yeah,
well that sokka.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, so that mom forgets about it. Oh my gosh,
you are outnumbered, aren't you. I am. I am truly
oh my gosh. No, but they're also cute. They're gonna
kill you to get you.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, They're gonna win every time, every time I've got
no leverage in my own home.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
No, oh boy, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Okay, all right, no it, okay to that, yeah, micon
and tell us what your what your song was?

Speaker 7 (09:50):
So I love Christmas music, but my favorite by far
is Wham's Last Christmas. I listened to it on repeat
every single Christmas. But usually when we do these productions,
I serve as stage manager, and so I kind of
combined it all into one weird role where I'm trying
to both stage manage, you know, Eliza Minelli's party and

(10:14):
make sure it all goes perfect while also having my
heart broken because I'm in love with Liza Minelli and
she frankly is not in love with me.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
And I get to be George Michael for two minutes.

Speaker 7 (10:24):
It was great fulfill my heart and I can't wait
to see the recording of it.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
It was it was so much fun. It was really great.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
You did a wonderful job and we and you had
great backup singers, which I did.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah it was good Jimmy and a Katerina shout out
to them.

Speaker 7 (10:46):
But in personal life also, the funny thing is that
you know Srida and now she was pregnant on the
last ninety see babies I was on and I was
just moving on the last ninety.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Seven babies I was on. I guess what's happening again.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
I just signed a lease yesterday for my very own
apartment where I was by myself for the first time
in my entire life. It's a little apartment, but it
will be mine and I'm so happy.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
And for you.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Ed South Pasadena, so just.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
Like it's like like ten minutes away from where I
am right now, but it's yes, it's.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Close to Mission Street. I'm very excited.

Speaker 7 (11:30):
And the other thing is like I've worked for a
nonprofit like a that does you know, after school programming
at no cost.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
To parents for a while. But I just got a.

Speaker 7 (11:41):
Big promotion to the Visual and Performing Arts Associate, which
is now facilitating me getting the apartment.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
So say so, I'm real excited. Sergio. Hi, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 8 (11:57):
I feel like it's been so long since I've recorded
one of these, and I just while we were working
out audio. I checked the last episode of nineties TV
Babies that I did was for a Different World, which
was like four shows ago. Yeah, yeah, that was a
while back, and so I was like, oh my gosh,
I've not had to do hett nineties TV Babies in

(12:18):
a while.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
So hello, I'm back.

Speaker 8 (12:21):
For introducing myself to folks who might have started tuning
in after a Different World. Yeah, I'm so excited to
be here. I was really excited to talk about the
Golden Girls, but I'll get into that later. The last
six months, I mean, I had my first ever adult

(12:41):
like summer to myself where I not had occidental children's theater,
and it was very, in a word, liberating. I got
to experience a lot of things in like during the
summer of just being able to do something without going
oh but I have to be at rehearsal tomorrow at

(13:03):
eight am. Oh no, I can't go out with my
friends or else I'm gonna throw up during the show
tomorrow or something.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
And so it was really just so crazy.

Speaker 8 (13:18):
To me, like everything, I was like, oh my gosh,
there's a whole world out there, and Coach and I
are Now we've spent one year in our new apartment
as about August, but like it's been a long time
since we've caught up. But yeah, since August it was
one year. And yeah, I mean I'm just I'm running around.

(13:41):
I'm trying to figure out who I am right now
and after like the like I've moved on from children's theater,
I'm like, Okay, all these doors are open and I'm
gonna try every single one of them. So, just been
doing some crazy stuff. I been traveling a lot. I
was up in I don't know, have y'all ever been
to the dune's in San Miguel or like not San Miguel,

(14:02):
but like in like Pismo.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yes, you got me.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
Real excited because I'm like, my hometown in Indiana is
like like ten minutes away from the Dune State Park.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Oh, I got you went to the Midwest.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
No, oh my goodness, I'm going places where my car
can take me and while my car can't take me
to the Midwest.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, it's just been a lot of traveling.

Speaker 8 (14:24):
So Cozy and I we recently were visiting a friend
up in San Miguel and then afterwards we came back
down went to the dunes in Pismo beach and it's
really really crazy out there, Like I could not believe
that that was out there. And it's funny because one
of my friends he brought a drone and just like
took videos of us hiking these dunes.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
And then at the very end of the trip, we.

Speaker 8 (14:46):
Get a text and it's a video of all of
us set to the music from Dune. So it's that
person screaming I don't Yeah, I've never seen Dune actually,
so sorry everybody who loves Dune. But it was just
just those kinds of things, Yeah, hanging out.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Oh the sock is all I was gonna say, I'm distracting. Yeah,
he was like in.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
My update, I got the sock off, I got the
sock off reward my toe.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Watching her baby stuck his own toe wild. All right, Now,
I know that he will upstage everybody. Yeah, everybody. I listen.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
I didn't think that it was possible to be like
to be upstage.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
I listen. I've got a pretty big personality.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
And then I had he's also a Leo, so I
had a me and here we are for those for
those who wonder, he is a Leo's sun scorpio moon
scorpio Rising.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Oh No, he's trouble. He is trouble. I said, yikes
on a bike, all right? And what does that mean
for those who don't know, for those that don't know.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
So like Leo Sun, he's as we see, he's a personality,
very gregarious. Scorpio Moon, he's got like a lot of
deep feelings. He's got a pretty intense RBF already. And
Scorpio Rising. He like when he can speak, he's gonna
be one of his kids who like walks up to
you and just has like really blunt questions and like

(16:29):
no concept of why you wouldn't want to talk about.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
That in public, you know. And he's gonna because that weird?
What are you? What are you talking about? Yes?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
And then you'll answer Beck Listen, a bunch of people
saw you take a stock off.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yea six months old? The onesie.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Thurles because it's cold, because it's cold.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
He's checking out this standing up thing. Look at him.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
I know he's very into it, which is concerning. I'm
gonna need you to slow down, Okay, I'm working on
I'm talking to the sharks and asking them for money
to get you stuff growing.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Ohs, and we're teething and we're teething.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, he's not even content with his own foot in
his mouth. Now he's putting your finger in his mouth.
Oh yeah, I listen. I'm a notorio lit.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
I've been getting my nails done for decades at this point,
and I usually have very long claws until I had
a baby. And now we're a short square grilly until
someone stops putting my fingers in his mouth.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
By it, that's not stopping any time, really going at it? Ye,
good stuff? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, oh god, okay, well, okay, we have to move on.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I'm sorry, Teddy Theo.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
You are going to have to stop distracting us quite
so much, or I'll just do this like I do
on the pit, like well, I can't watch except now
I can't watch the cuteness. No, keep the cuts from me.
Come on, all right, we got it, We got it.

(18:32):
Back to Golden Girls, Back to Golden Girls.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
All right, I talk about No, I'm kidding.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Oh we could talk about the pit another well, chat
all right, your assignment before we start talking about the
show itself. We as always are curious who knew about
the show before we started to talk about it or
ask you to watch it, and.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
What did you know?

Speaker 3 (18:58):
And uh, And I think I think I know answers
to Serena because we spent a lot of time together
way back when.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
All right, and so the first I have a feeling
everybody has has a history with The Golden Girls, Am
I correct?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
All right?

Speaker 4 (19:16):
Sailor's unmuted, go Sailor, Yeah, and Sergio's nodding, So.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, I think I think we all have.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
Like I've I've seen The Golden Girls, Like it's such
a cultural touchstone for even people of my generation. Like
I will admit, I don't think I started watching it
until I was like in my twenties and now I
am I'm just for twenty six, so, like, you know,
not too long ago, but like it's such a comfort

(19:45):
show for me.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I just love.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
Watching these girls get up to whatever crazy stuff they
are getting up to now. I think before I was
tasked with our episodes, I had I.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Haven't watched all of Golden Girls. I watched.

Speaker 7 (20:02):
I think I watched up to the fourth season, and
I was working through the fourth season, so like I'd
see a good chunk of it and like I love it.
I like show it to my friends. I I love
you know what I'm going to save that because I
have a personality test for everybody, because I feel like
everybody has a favorite Golden Girl and it says a

(20:26):
lot about you.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
So if we could do that.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
Now, I want to know what who everyone's favorite Golden
Girl is?

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Right, do you want to know? Now?

Speaker 7 (20:37):
Well?

Speaker 1 (20:38):
No, no, let's get to that. Let's come back around.
We'll save that for let's say that that's a big
person up all right, Sergio, I would like to know
what you knew of this show before we started. Hey, okay, So.

Speaker 8 (20:51):
Working for the podcast aside and having to pour over
the photos of the Golden Girls to make all these
different magazine things, like I know every crease and wrinkle
on everyone's face at this point, I I'm gonna be
one hundred percent honest. I had never seen the Golden Girls, like,
never sat down and watched it before I had to

(21:15):
record this episode. So I went in like I knew
who was in it. I was like, just like, you know,
it was something that was always around, but never something
that I tuned into. So I'm so sorry everybody. I'm
the one person in this call right now.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I love it. I love it now. It's great. Yes,
it's good this is very good.

Speaker 8 (21:37):
Like obviously, the like the the theme song is so iconic,
and i'd heard that before. I did a play reading
once where they sang it and I had to learn
it and I was like, oh, I don't know this
and it was like crazy. But yeah, like I went
in this time around completely blind, Like I knew who

(21:59):
was in it and I knew the theme song, but
I didn't know what they were doing, who they were,
where they were going.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
So I'm excited to share what I thought.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Mm hmm, okay, I love that and Serena and Teddy Yea.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
I obviously had known all kinds of things about the
Golden Dolls, like it's one of those shows that is
like a pretty consistent rewatch.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Would you like this? Oh you want me to think?
That's on me? That's my bad. I should have not.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Here, But yeah, I mean I'm obsessed with the Golden
Girls and I feel like I was watching in like
heistit like because it was like syndicated, like you know,
it was a rerun.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Would you like this? There we go? That's what I
want to be tall, But yeah, I mean, huge fan.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
I will save my my favorite Golden Girl time what.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Okay, now, did Teddy watch any shows with you? He
did not.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
We are we are trying no screams other than FaceTime
for the first two years.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
We're gonna see, We're gonna see. Yeah, see how far
you can get. I think that's very smart. It's very good.
Thank you, very good. I'm very proud of you. A
friend of mine did that.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
I think I think it may have been longer than
that before she introduced screens to her daughter. So it's
not easy, obviously because they're so everywhere.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
But yeah, good on you. That's great. This is going
to be the most distracted eighties TV Ladies.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Nineties TV babies episode, because come on, all right, we
may have to release this video just so people can
can catch well. I don't know if you want, if
you may not want them out there, sailor, why don't
you start tell us all about your thoughts on the
Golden Girls?

Speaker 7 (24:10):
Oh boy, and come to saying all of my thoughts
on the Golden Girls is such such a big ask.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Well, it doesn't have to be all of them. What
did you think of the show? From both an eighties
perspective and from now?

Speaker 7 (24:32):
I think the big thing about the Golden Girls is
like of course it is a show of the eighties,
but even as a person watching from the big gear
of twenty twenty six, I am still so shocked by
what topics they took on, especially like like we're talking
like first and second season, we're doing like hard hitting

(24:54):
episodes about being gay, about you know who your partner
might be, about you know, age gaps, about the episode
where Blanche is offered like a better grade if she
sleeps with her teacher. The amount of these episodes like
are so many that I can't even.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Think of all of them.

Speaker 7 (25:15):
So just as a person in today's today's age, I'm
still shocked by what they covered and how well they
took it on. I won't say all of them are like,
you know, hit it out the ballpark, fantastic, get handling
some of these topics. Like there's there's times when like
Sophia will walk into the room and like like, for example,

(25:36):
I think it's a little romance when there's a little
person that Rose is saying, like he walks there, Sophia
walks into the room and sees doctor what's his name?

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Oh God, Sophia, please don't say a.

Speaker 7 (25:50):
Bad thing, Like I know you're going to make light
of the situation, but please don't say like, you know,
a slur or like something horrible that's not going to
go over well. But that episode, Like watching it again,
I forgot how funny it is because like she walks
into the.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Room and she's like, forgive me for what I'm about
to say. I'm very tired. I'm gonna go lay down.

Speaker 7 (26:15):
He's like, oh, this is completely fine, and then she means, like, Dorothy,
please come see me. That is that guy, and you know,
she says not the most amazing word and she's and
Dorothy converts like yeah, that's you know, he's a little person.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
She goes, thank god, I thought I had another stroke.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
And it's like they take these topics and they somehow
weave humor into it really well, I will I've totally
forgot the ending of that episode, which is Rose like
decides like, yeah, I'm gonna marry him and it's gonna
be fine, and he lets her down easy because she's
not Jewish and that's why they can't be together.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Like how it's so funny. Like I feel like as.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
As a twenty six year old in the year twenty
twenty six, like I've got a completely different sense of
humor than what was, you know, back in the nineteen eighties,
and I'm still laughing my ass off as some.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Of these shokes. It's so funny.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean, I think that's one of the
reasons I think that it has lasted, is that there's
a universality to a lot of the humor that will
work at work then that works now and probably will
continue to work for years to come, because it's so
grounded in their humanness.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
An episode with Blanche and George.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Is one of my favorite episodes because it is such
a perfect example of like how much the show is
able to hold in like one container because while Lanche
is having this full, like emotional, like deep experience, Dorothy's
being courted by study bono.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
That was also one of my favorite episodes, just like
magic in.

Speaker 5 (28:13):
That like there is this like hilarious, like canpy like
technically side story because like Blanch is supposed to be
the focus of the episode and like that just like
every moment about it, like I'm tackling, And then in
the same episode, under the same roof, Blanche is having
this like incredibly like deep moving like experience.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
That we sorry spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen it.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
At the end, we discover was all a dream, Sergio,
we discover was all a dream, which also like I
need short classic TV trope of like how do you
like insert a plot that you don't want to like
carry on? But still it was just like, oh my god,
and she's still dreaming these big, vivid dreams of her
like dead husband and maybe just something will happen that

(29:04):
will bring him back.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
And also Dorothy's being courted by these two famous men.

Speaker 9 (29:09):
Who are like obsessed with her and demand that she
make a choice, all because she saw them at Equis
and they over charged by her, which also wild play
to pick as like.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Of all the shows they could have picked to be
the one that she met them at.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
And also Golden Girls is I was actually talking to
a friend about this earlier as another great example of
why we need to bring back twenty four episode seasons.

Speaker 10 (29:38):
I am sick of the short ten episode like Matt Lee, yuh,
I want episodes that are all backstory and just you're
just gonna give me all of the exposition in one episode,
like when we uh see the episode of how the
girls actually all came together, or the Valentine episodes, it's

(30:00):
just all going to be flashbacks because.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
They're still fun and like add to like the color
of the characters. But sure they're not the most plant
driven like whatever, but like they're fun and they're a
good time and we get like random again, random side
Sophia talking about bloody Valadine.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Like like you know, like we get just.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
These little snippets in there, and then we also still
get these really full, rich episodes about their.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Lives and who they are, Like.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
The last two episodes that we watched, the one fleo
out of the Cluelan's nests, right, like that's like those
two episodes are like very plot heavy and like are
in the same universe that same person, Dorothy was being
chased down by two silly famous men or they had

(30:55):
backstage passes to see mister Burt Reynolds, And I love this.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I love this. Would also do horrible things to me
Bert Reynolds, like I relate.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
I like that episode reminds me of like there really
are like these quintessential like figures of every generation of
like the person and like Bert Reynolds, like there's so
many jokes about him on shows of people being obsessed
with them that like he like really is like top

(31:29):
tier and that whole episode.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Is so funny.

Speaker 7 (31:35):
Another episode where they all end up in jail. Yes,
that that trope still comes back, but.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I digress.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yeah, Sergio, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (31:48):
Yeah, I think because, like I said, I've never seen
an episode before, but watching it, even the like abridged
version of the Golden Girls, the homework that you gave us,
it's like you really see us how foundational this show is.
I think that, like, compared to shows that we've watched
in the past, there were many moments in this one
where I'm like, Okay, I see now, like how much

(32:10):
The Golden Girls has inspired creators today, like people who've
made different sitcoms ever since then, Like they're all very
very inspired by this, and like the dynamics that are
like that you see between all of the Golden Girls,
and I just I had so much fun. It's it's
crazy because I was so while I was watching. Koji

(32:34):
was he he does volleyball on Sundays, so he was
off in volleyball. He comes back and he had seen
The Golden Girls. Actually he grew up, he watched the
Golden Girls. He's watched all of Riba, but that's like, whatever,
we're gonna talk about Reriba right now.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Okay, hold on, but it might have to circle back
just personally about the ReBs.

Speaker 8 (32:54):
But he comes back and he's like, so, how did
you like it? And I was like, oh, my goodness,
I could barely keep up. It was crazy because it's
joke after joke after joke after joke, and it's never
something that feels at least to me or well, I
won't say never. There were moments where I'm like, Okay,
this did come out in the eighties, but it always
felt smart, and it always felt like it knew that

(33:14):
the audience wasn't dumb and that.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
They didn't have to spell.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
Out the joke for you like they have to do now,
where it's like, oh, you have to know that the
musical sting is mysterious, so that you know that the
this is mysterious, and like every character is going to
come in and say exactly what they're thinking and feeling,
and there's like more, there's a different kind of honesty
in The Golden Girls that it's just like so exciting

(33:40):
to me.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
There's online that Dorothy says that is one of my
favorite wines in TV, and it's they're dealing with teen
pregnancy in the episode, and like one of the neighbor
girls finds out she's pregnant.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
She does know what to do.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
She's like running away from home, and Dorothy is letting
her know that she has options that you know, she
can't have the baby. She cannot have the baby, which
already is like pretty bold or for a TV show
to be discussing. Dorothy says, you know, just because the
pipes are in the house doesn't mean they're ready for use.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Have been watching too much This Old House, And.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Like it's so like to your point, Ordio of like
it's such like it could be such a throwaway line,
but like so beautifully encapsulates this moment of like acknowledging
that she is talking to ultimately a child who now
finds herself pregnant doesn't feel safe like with that news
at home and just needs to hear that like whatever

(34:46):
her choice is is her choice, but she does have choices,
which again in the eighties and on TV, it is
like pretty bold, yeah, and which is probably why it's
cushioned in a joke about this old House U, but
it is true It's such a beautiful line and like
cracks me up every time if we're sharing standout lines,

(35:08):
I think for me.

Speaker 8 (35:11):
The ones that pined my ear in a funny way
was when during a Missus George Devereaux where Dorothy gets
back in the bed and it's like, oh my gosh,
Blanche just had her dream and everyone comes in and
Sophia is like, I should have known.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I sent her to tennis camp that one time.

Speaker 8 (35:27):
I was like, oh my gosh, is that a Billy
Jean king himself.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
I'm gonna have to feed a little baby sit. So
just yeah, just to make sure, I will.

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Speaker 5 (36:26):
I definitely obviously love Golden Girls, and I would say
even both for its time and still today ahead of
the game. I mean, just shows and drown for older women,
what women and an older woman, and it's not just
about like being old and Sailor Blanche is like I

(36:50):
love them all deeply and it's tough, but Blanche is
really my girl because I just I love that she
like gets to just be this little like slut, like
empowered slut, you know, and we love that, and we
love that that's coming from someone who is of an
age that often people decide no longer to have any

(37:11):
sense of sex or self or or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
And yeah, I am just obsessed with the show.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
And the reason why it's one of my kind of
like go to comfort shows is other than just being funny,
is that it still feels current and like still feels
really relevant in a way that again bring back twenty
four episode because like, I think that's hard to do
in a short ten episode season to like.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Feel timeless in some ways.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
And I think there's there's a beauty that Golden Girls,
and there's a beauty to like really enjoying aging, especially
as women that again, like we have grace, I always
want to say, Gracie and frank Grace and Frankie. But like, right,
like I can think of one show that centers older

(38:06):
women and of current times and listen if I don't,
I don't support reboots very often, but if we wanted
to just update gold and Girls a little bit and
get her back on the air, sign me up.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Dare I mention that the women in and Just like that,
the reboot of Sex and the City, they're basically the
same age as the ladies and the Golden Girls.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
And our and and the issue is is that and
Just like that tries to be Sex and the City
like just tries to continue Sex in the City instead
of allowing the women to age any Golden Girls, let
them age but still have a full life.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
And that is the difference. I will die on. Okay,
so says Serena. Yes I'm gonna go fad my invent.
I can cure him. Yes you can do another zoom soon.
I will bring him back.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
Love you all, love you, good to see you both, Sergeio.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
What was surprising?

Speaker 8 (39:23):
I think surprising some things that were surprising. These are
surprising things that I liked.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
What was cool?

Speaker 8 (39:30):
And Serena touched on it a little bit, but I
think that it was really cool that these were older
women who could talk about their sex lives. But the
joke about them talking about their sex lives was never
they're old and having sex. It was always something else
and something more subversive than that. Surprising to me. Maybe

(39:53):
it's just because I'm like, again, like twenty twenty six
were coming at it here, and like I grew up
watching other shows, but it was like, oh, we're gonna
have this little conversation now you speak something like grief
and loss, And I honestly like, of all the episodes

(40:16):
that you shared with us, I think that for me,
my favorite one, my favorite two or the Pilot and
Missus George Devereaux, because it really is like, okay, Rooue
McLanahan in both gets to do a lot of dramatic
acting that you don't expect from a sitcom. The first one,
like it it's not even like the shot is focused

(40:38):
on her, but you can see her just reacting to
being spurned in the pilot and it's like, oh my gosh,
she is fantastic, And like, it reminds me too that
sitcoms are kind of filmed like theater and like that
just is always like so exciting to me just watching
people who are in this industry and like acting doing

(40:58):
their jobs.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Like really really well.

Speaker 8 (41:01):
And then, like I said, like for missus George Devereux,
I wasn't expecting it to end that way, because like
maybe it's just because we're dropping in at a time
in the season where I'm like, yeah, maybe Dorothy is
being courted by those two guys at this point in
the season, like they've been here before, and so I'm
watching it again as someone who's never seen it, and

(41:22):
I'm like, yeah, this makes so much sense to me
that she would be like talking to these two guys.
Oh right, he's the mayor of Palm Springs right now.
Like it's just like, yeah, I didn't have the context
of maybe this was a joke until the very end,
when like when Blanche wakes up and it just delivers
perhaps one of the most heartbreaking moments I think of television.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
I don't know, I'm I've.

Speaker 8 (41:48):
Just seen it today, but I was like, oh my gosh,
I was really affected by that because it's something that's
played off a lot of the time as funny, like oh,
she's got it dead them like oh, but now she's like,
you know, she's going around sleeping around, but like when
she says like, oh, like but this time, like I
got to hug him, and this time like you chose

(42:10):
some and then it's like it's it's the one two
punch of like here's something dramatic but like the what
do we call it? You hit him and you hug
him or something. It's one of those where I was
just like really really really affected by that, and yeah,
I don't know if it's a parent I really liked it.

(42:30):
I really really liked it. I see why it has
stood the test of time and it's like still to
this day, getting adaptations, getting stage shows, everything, Like I
loved it.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah, it's a lot of a lightning and a bottle
magic of those characters and that tone then that was
both really really funny, sharp witted and also incredibly warm
sailor looking back at it sort of like you were

(43:02):
familiar with it, but when you know, when you kind
of rewatched, what was there something that surprised you on
this rewatch or something that stood out for you.

Speaker 7 (43:18):
I mean, I think the big thing that I took
away from it was once again, these like kind of
topical issues that came up within it, mostly because that's
a lot of what was either on the assignment or
the extra credit. Like I said, it really just it
does such a great job at touching these I'm going

(43:41):
to cheat a little bit and go outside of what
the assignment was and reference some episodes that, like, personally
I love, one of which was I think it's the
first episode of season three where Sophia a friends a
man who has al Alzheimer's And I haven't seen that

(44:03):
episode forever, but I do remember it being like one
of my favorites because of how beautiful this story was.
Like it's still to this day, like I said, I've
seen him forever, but I can still recall like how
much I loved it. And the other one was I
think I watched it because I think you guys mentioned it,

(44:24):
which was the episode where Sophia's son Phil dies, and
like it's filled with a bunch of jokes, like you know,
he's been cross dressing all his life, and oh the
mourners here there are also men in dresses underneath the veils,
and yet it ends with such like a heart wrenching

(44:44):
moment of Dorothy's eulogy to him, which is like we
should never let like us as family, we should never
grow so far apart, and like I wish I could
say all this stuff to him. And then the final
moment of the episode, which is the only like Golden
Girl episode I can think of that didn't end with
a zinger, is Sophia just breaking down and being like like.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
What did I do?

Speaker 7 (45:11):
What happened to have him turn out this way? And
just ending it with like my baby is gone, Like
that's God? Does that just hit something deep within you?
And it's like I came here to laugh, and like
there's lots of laughs in that episode, like the fact
that they bury him in a teddy and everyone keeps

(45:33):
commenting like it's a very nice teddy, like it's a
very it's very tasteful one. Like Serita said the Missus
George Devereaux episode, I need to say it. My favorite
part of that episode is when Dorothy asked, like, who
did I end up this time? And she's like, oh,
it was it was Sunny Bono and she goes, yes,

(45:56):
that was my favorite part. It was so like it's
that's a dramatic episode. My favorite part is watching those
two men fight over Dorothy. I'll say it now. Dorothy
is my favorite Golden girl. I love her to death
as a person who is not very effeminate and is

(46:18):
a big fan of Wise Cracks and you know, having
a heart and exterior. She's my girl. I love her
to death. She's my role model, truly.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
She's my favorite too, for what it's worth. But getting
back to the I'm so glad you guys respond. I
really love the George Dever episode as much as I do.
I probably saw it when it aired originally, but I forgotten,
so I felt like I was watching it the first
time around this time and I did not see it coming.
And it's a It's such an example of how good
the writing is on the show, the way that they're

(46:51):
able to balance both of those storylines and both and
both of those endings and make it fit together so
perfectly somehow away with the magic of the whatever magic
or pixie dust say, sprinkled on it.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
It just it worked, and it works so well. Sergio
do what character?

Speaker 7 (47:13):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (47:15):
I think, just based off of the episodes that I watched,
I'm I'm somebody who really likes I wouldn't say like
throw away jokes. I like I don't know, is this
surprising at all? I think my favorite is Rose. I
think I because she's just like one, Like the Saint
Olaf stories are crazy. Losing butter Girl was devastating, but

(47:41):
also it's just comedically played so well, like when we
all met, Like when she's like, oh, I've got a
room and it's got Blanche Devaux on the like called
Blanche Devro and she's like, oh, that's cool. Yeah, let's
sight the room. Oh and what's your name again? It's
just like it's so funny. I think it. It takes

(48:02):
such a smart performer to play dumb and it's like
literally just a masterclass in that.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah, I think I'm a I think I think I'm
a Rose. You think you're a Rose. I love that
I'm a Rose.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
I think you're a Rose too. You have a lot
of optimism in you, and I think Rose does too.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
But yeah, that's another thing. She's really like the heart. Yeah,
she's the heart.

Speaker 7 (48:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
So now I'm curious if you knew of these actresses,
particularly Betty White, since Betty White kind of worked in
until she died, Yeah, what you knew of them and
how that affects how you think of their character in
the show.

Speaker 8 (48:48):
Okay, actually I was this is something I was thinking
of as I was watching where again just because like
I've been like I have to listen. I listened to
every eighties TV Ladies episode and like, so I know,
like stuff that was happening behind the scenes and other things,
and like watching it, you can tell maybe like from

(49:08):
episode one to literally the finale, Sophia's character is a
little more diminished.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Her performance is a little.

Speaker 8 (49:16):
Smaller, and as we know now, it was because a
Stelle Getty was having memory issues on set, and that
was something that I was thinking about as I was
watching it. I was also thinking about, like the personal
relationships between the cast. If I'm remembering correctly, it's it
was Betty White and be Arthur who were not friends.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yes, yeah, it would mostly be Arthur not appreciating Betty
White's style.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
I think.

Speaker 8 (49:49):
Okay, yeah, and maybe it's just because that's something I
was like thinking about. I don't know if it necessarily
bled into the perform of things, like I think they
were being very professional and yeah, I think the one
that mostood out to me was Estelle Getty's just the
change and like what her character like the function of

(50:11):
her character in the finale versus in the pilot. That
was something that made me feel a little emotional just
because it's like, Wow, that's she did seven seasons. I
did know of Betty White. Of all of them, I
knew Betty White the most. And yeah, I can't say

(50:32):
that I had seen either or any of the other
three and anything else until I watched The Golden Pearls.

Speaker 7 (50:40):
I know what you mean of like, oh, that's Betty White.
Because I had never seen Betty White in anything. I
just am like, Oh, that's Betty White. That's you know,
the really old lady who's been in everything and she's
still spry and she's just like ready to take on life.
I remember she had like a very brief show that
was just like a prank show where old people would

(51:04):
play pranks on people. It's called Betty White something that. Yeah,
I remember that.

Speaker 8 (51:11):
I'm remembering her now from The Proposal, the rom com
with Ryan Reynolds and Sandra Bolo where she plays his grandmother.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yes, that's what I remember it like.

Speaker 8 (51:22):
That was probably my first ever like sit down and
watch something that has Betty White in it. Because my
older siblings loved the proposal, so they put it on
all the time, and I just remember the scene where
she and Sandra Bullock are in the forest doing the dance.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
And say what you will.

Speaker 8 (51:38):
It is quite offensive, yes, but Betty White is just
a comedic.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
I would encourage you to go look at Mary Tyler
the Mary Tyler Moore show from you know, and when
Betty White, Betty White comes in, she's not in the
comes in later into the show, but seeing her do
the performance she does in Mary tyllymore and seeing her

(52:09):
do Rose. If you've heard any of the episodes, you
know that at one point they were hiring Rue McClanahan
to play Rose, and they were thinking of and Betty
White to play Blanche. And that will explain why both
why they thought of that at first seeing her character
in Mary Taylor Moore, but also why neither of them

(52:33):
wanted to do that and why they why it was
much better to have her go play Rose.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Here's something I want to touch on.

Speaker 7 (52:42):
I hate Stanley's yes he's a yes, I say it themselves.
I hate it and I can't as Dorothy being my
favorite golden girl.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
He kills me that. I'm like, why did you marry that? Man.

Speaker 7 (52:58):
And it goes back to like me being so thankful
that women have a lot more agency and were not
forced to like settle down and do everything so quickly.
Because if a beautiful, strong, gorgeous woman like Dorothy has
to settle for a man like Stanley, I it makes.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Me which I'll bring it back to this, I was.

Speaker 7 (53:26):
I had never seen the final two episodes, so I
was really surprised when I saw the ending. I am like,
it was a very good episode, it was very touching.
I I don't know, I didn't enjoy the ending as
much as I thought I would.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
I think it's just because.

Speaker 7 (53:47):
Maybe it's because they got married so quickly, Like I
didn't I wish this was I know it was a
two parter episode, but still like it felt deep. It
felt so quick and like the whole joke was like, oh,
let's pretend to get married, but actually I'm crazy about you,
And I'm like, when did this happen? They went to

(54:07):
a hardware convention and Dorothy had a horrible time, and
now they're kissing. I don't know, Like I'm not saying
I hate the concept. I'm just saying it could have
used a little bit more. You know, I want to
see fall in Love. I love a slow bird, it's
so good. I loved moon Biting. Of course I love
a slipperd.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
All Right, so final thoughts uh for us, and I
would say, weirdly have to talk about how much she
disappeared at the show. Uh, I'm kind of a Sophia.

Speaker 7 (54:45):
But I think they artfully like how many Roses dumb jokes, Blanches,
the slut jokes and Dorothy's mainly jokes. How have they
done over seven seasons and still season seven?

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I am laughing at these jokes.

Speaker 7 (54:58):
Like they're pretty The writers are pretty masterful at keeping
these bits going.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Mm hmmm, it's pretty great. It's so exciting. It's really
fun that you guys enjoyed it. And I'm so excited
Sergio that despite working.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
On it for months, I knew nothing. You did not
know anything about it. I knew nothing. I knew nothing,
and it was like, okay.

Speaker 8 (55:24):
It was funny because I'd hear quotes and I'd be like,
oh my god, wait, I know that quote because I've
used it in something that's weird, and then I hear
the delivery of it, I'm like, oh my gosh, that's
not how I was reading it at all, and now
it's even better. To me, the ending felt very stilted,
like I know, like there was a joke of Dorothy

(55:44):
coming back, and like I loved it, and I actually
wanted her to come back one more time. And then
I also loved just just going back to Rose really quickly.
I love the way Betty White played it where everyone's
looking around and she does like this very slight lance
and like another door and then like audience laughs. But
then after like the realization hits that she's not coming

(56:06):
back that time, the girls just turn in and their
faces drop and then it's credits, and I was like,
what that feels wrong for this show. I felt like
there should have been just like one more thing. And
like obviously I'm not like saying anything about the writing
or like how the writers chose to end their show,
but it was really surprising to me. It felt very like,

(56:29):
oh wow, yeah, it's over, and it just ended in
such a way where I'm like really surprised by it.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
It felt a little deflated. Yeah, I was waiting for
the button.

Speaker 7 (56:38):
Absolutely, where's the last little joke that leaves us happy
at the end?

Speaker 8 (56:43):
Yeah, Yeah, everyone had a great time at the Golden Palace.

Speaker 6 (56:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (56:54):
I think what's troublesome is that when The Golden Girls
is airing it, it's like everyone was kind of watching
the same stuff. You knew that we were all going
to sit down at this time to watch this show
and take away a certain lesson from it. And obviously,
ever since The Golden Girls came out, there's been a

(57:15):
lot that's happened in the world that you can do
updated storylines with and like create scripts with different lessons
to learn at the very end. But I think the
value of The Golden Girls was that everyone was watching
it and you could trust that that was happening. And
these days now it's like, well, if it's on to

(57:38):
be and fou boo and boo boo, and you got
to find it on PBE, Like yeah, you got to
go to plorb and when you're on FLOORB, just make
sure you get the poopoo track, Like you got to
get on this. Like it's so inaccessible now and no
one's watching the same things. There's no monoculture around media

(57:58):
that I feel like it would be just such a
disservice to what the show could be. That said, I
am already like fan casting it in my mind of
like who could do it?

Speaker 1 (58:09):
And I want Amy Pohlar there. But anyway, yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
That's a good well anybody else. It's kind of in
the back of your mind that you see on the Yeah,
on the reboot, if you're in a.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Castle would be hilarious.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
As which character Dorothy Amy Polar Polar?

Speaker 8 (58:39):
Rose Amy Polar would definitely be. That's why I was
thinking about it. A pol would be Rose.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
Okay, Oh my god, I was not. I did not
prepare for this. But now I gotta do some frantic
Google searches.

Speaker 8 (58:53):
Yeah, like this is this is the Patreon Like, okay,
all the nineties TV babies are back to talk about
their fan cast to the Golden Girls because it will
I'm thinking about it now.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I think that's that sounds like a great Blanche Angela Bassett.

Speaker 8 (59:11):
Yeah, I'm there. I just love Angela Bassett.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I'd like but let's let's get her out of.

Speaker 4 (59:21):
She's she's cashing a very big paycheck, that's true.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Leave her alone.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Okay, sorry, what about Sandra oh as Blanche?

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Oh? I love I love her and killing Eve.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
I mean, I'm not sure she is, but I'm thinking
she might be Kevin likes that.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Yeah, all right, Sandra, Oh all right, well, listeners, let
us know who you think should be recast in the Golden.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Girls, or if it should happen at all.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
It should happen at all, rebooted, but if even if
it shouldn't happen, you can still cast the idea of
a Golden Girl's root foot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
A girl you can dream.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Yeah, oh my gosh, thank you guys so much. We
are so happy to have you. I love seeing and
hearing your seeing your faces and hearing your voices, and
hearing all about what you're up to.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Hearing your thoughts about whatever show we're talking about is
always one of the highlights for me. It's always one
of the best parts of what we're doing in terms
of covering a show.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
And again, you guys did not disappoint, So thank you,
Thank you RuPaul Is, Sophia.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
Anyway I was thinking about I just could not Okay, yes,
I'm in place. I was like, thank you, nine babies.
It's so gad to see you. It has been so fun.
And we will have you back to talk about when

(01:01:02):
we look at Kateinelly and we'll be looking at.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
One day at a time. Yeah, very interesting shows. Thank you,
going to see you guys as always. Bye. In today's audioography.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Learn more about the Golden Girls on Facebook at Facebook
dot com slash Golden Girls.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Now, if you have Hulu and you haven't seen it,
I highly recommend you watched the fortieth anniversary special that
aired in twenty twenty five, and it is at Hulu
dot com. The link will be in our description.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
It was such a fun look back at the show,
and I was thrilled to see that several of our
former guests were part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
I know, it was like an EIGHTIESTV Ladies reunion up
there on ABC exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
And meanwhile, if you're so inclined, you can send Serita
diaper money for little Adorable Baby Theo at Venmo. It's
Venmo dot com, slash you slash Serta Fonta and again
the link will be in our show notes.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
And you know what, you can learn more about my
new arts organization that I'm the co artistic director of.
It's called Arts a la Carte and you can find
out there what we've been up to in the past
year and a half and how you can support new
works of theater going forward. You can check it out
at artsala carte dot org and on Instagram. You can
find us at arts a la carte la because there's

(01:02:32):
lots of arts ala Kart. Because it's Instagram, you gotta
have a little underscore or an extra.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Absolutely, so, thank you all for listening, Thank you for
your feedback and comments. Did any of you guys out
there recently watch or rewatch The Golden Girls? And if so,
what did you think? We love hearing from you. You
can send us messages at our website eightiestv Ladies dot com.
That's eight zero s TV l a d ees dot com,

(01:03:03):
and you can also tell us what you think if
there was an episode we should have given the nineties
TV babies. We're also so very grateful to our Patreon supporters.
You guys have helped us. Some of you have been
with us from the very beginning. You've helped make it
possible to do this show. Let us know what you
want from Patreon and we'll try to do it this year.
Message us through Patreon or send an email to eightiestv

(01:03:25):
Ladies at gmail dot com and mention your Patreon supporter.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Our next episode is so exciting.

Speaker 4 (01:03:33):
We have a very special guest coming on next Time,
missus Georgia Jeffries Georgia is a writer, producer, and professor
who worked on some of the most iconic Eighties TV
Ladies shows ever, including Cagney and Lacy, China Beach, and Sisters.
She wrote and produced some of our favorite episodes of
Cagney and Lacy. And it's such a wonderful conversation and

(01:03:57):
Susan guess what else?

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
What else?

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Well, that episode with Georgia will be our ninety ninth episode,
which means the next one after that is going to
be our one hundredth episode of Eighties TV Ladies.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Can you believe that? I cannot believe that. I can't
believe it's going to be. That makes this one ninety
eight well, happy ninety eighth, ninety nine and one hundredth
episode to us and to you guys, our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
I don't know what quite to do for the hundredth episode,
but I think we decided to do something very special
and Brion, a very very special guest, A fantastic gift
for all of us, Miss Morgan Fairchild will be coming
on our one hundredth episode of Eighties TV Ladies.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
I really cannot wait. We hope.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Eighties TV Ladies brings you joy and laughter and lots
of fabulous new and old shows to watch, all of
which will lead us forward toward being amazing ladies of
the twenty first century.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Babies, Dad, I'm like hand so pretty basta beating living
out into the city and the stabling and dream and
getting were God put the money in the band. Eighty Rats.
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