August 19, 2024 • 11 mins
From the IHeart Podcast Parlor at the Allen County Fair, Russ Decker is joined by Abby, Sarah and Claire to talk about their time in 4H and the projects they worked on this year!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, and we are back to another episode of
ACF four one one.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's the Allen County fair Information on the iHeart Podcast
parlor used to be the milk parlor here at the
Allen County Fairgrounds. It's just on the north end of
the dairy building. And of course our podcasts this week
are powered by Nutrient. We also want to thank Spencer
Sugar Shop that gave us cookies, so everybody that comes
in and talks to us in the podcast parlors can
(00:25):
help themselves to some cookies. And we also want to
thank our friends at the Allen County Dairy Services for
letting us use their building. And we also need to
thank Alex will if our engineer, for making us sound
good tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
So thanks Alex. All Right, so we've got some very
special guests with us on this episode. We have Abby,
Sarah and Claire. So welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Hi guys, Hello, hi, oh oh, and you have fans
outside the window.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
This is great.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
We don't always get a fan base when we do these,
so you guys are pretty special. So let's just we'll
start with Abby and go down the line. But so
tell me about the projects you've got going on at
the fair.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well, I have some pretty mean chickens, mean chicken, mean chickens.
And then I took a scrap booking project too.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
All right, So we haven't had anybody that yet. It's
doing a special product. So tell us about special projects.
We haven't talked about that at all.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, I completed a book on it, and then I
obviously made the project. It's been something I've been doing,
like for a couple of years though, like just building
it up.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So what all is in your scrap book?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's every season of high school sports I've done.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And what sports?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Cross country, basketball and softball?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Wow? Nice, very versatile. All right, Sarah, what projects you
have going on this year?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I just decided to take meat chickens.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
That's it, just meat chickens. Just meat chickens. Yep. So
is that crunchy or barbecue?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Either.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Honestly, they're both pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
They're good, Claire, what do you.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I also did meet chickens, and then I did two
special interest projects. I did a mentoring one and Your
Thoughts Matter one for mental health.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So so explained both projects to us a little bit.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
The mentoring one, I had a little boy in my
four age club and I helped him like with his projects.
If he had any questions, I would help him and
like just get him through like the year and stuff.
And then my other one, I had to fill out
a book and just do like definitions and like stuff
about mental health, like the facts, like the numbers and stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Okay, and we're right across from the U Matter.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Booth, so yeah, it's perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yesterday, that was pretty cool. Yeah, so what's it like
mentoring a little boy?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
It was fun because you went all through through all
of those like years that he hasn't been through, so
you could tell him like stuff that he didn't know,
so you could like further him and better him for
the years that he has to go.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So, so, ladies, how's stressful is it when you're in
the judging arena with your with your project and and
you're depending on an animal to do things.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I'm gonna speak from years previous with my pigs I
have done. I've shown pigs for nine years, and you
work all summer with them obviously, and like all the
pressure is put on one day, one moment and something.
Sometimes things just don't go your way and it is unfortunate,
(03:30):
but you definitely learn from it.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You grow from it.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
But what's as you did your pig? Ever? Do anything
really goofy in the judging ring? Not?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I think goofy just really frustrating, you know, Like no,
they just like yelled the whole time.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, because we had we had King Brody in here
first and his took him for a ride.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Oh has happened before.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And now that I think about that, I would surprise
me if they peed down my boot too.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
That would that would be that would be embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But not in the ring, but like as I was
walking them.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, how about you, Sarah, you look like you have
an embarrassing moment you want to Well.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I've taken rabbits, goats and chickens, and I think like
over the years, I think like the worst thing that's
happened is just like a rabbit, Like I think when
I first started, obviously, like when you're that little, you
don't know what's going on sometimes and it's like dropping
a rabbit, is I feel like pretty.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Common in that barn. Surprisingly, I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Know if they I would say they bounce, They probably
just like do a little like oh that hurt, and
then just like going with their lives, like like most
people yeah, yeah, they speak to us.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Someone rabbit, they said, who that hurts?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, definitely, yep, you had to be there to see it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
We could go back and you could reenact it.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Oh yeah, if you have a rabbit for me, that'd
be yeah, I can reenact it perfect.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, Claire, I haven't had that happen. But this isn't fun.
But a lot of go it's like to jump, like
when you're trying to like show it and like get
it ready for the judge to like feel it and
see if it has a good muscular structure, and they
kind of like jump at you. So that's probably the
most embarrassing thing and you're like, okay, you can stop.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
That right now.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Okay, now if it wasn't your project, did you ever
see something happen to a friend and you're like, oh, man,
I'm not Yeah, I've.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Caught a few goats, like like a little kids showing
and like they like go of it or like like
slips the collar, so you like like catch it while
they're showing.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But yeah, you know, but with at least with rabbits
and chickens or something, they're not that big.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
They're not like the holl guy that if it decides
it's leaving, it's gone. Yep.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
A little bit heavier too.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Have you ever chased your chicken to rabbits?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I had a bed one this year.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Oh yeah, it ran away from me in the yard
and I couldn't get it.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It made me feel very unathletic. But you're in all
those sports I retired, So.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Let's talk a little bit about So for rabbits and chickens.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Anyway, it's Thursday night at the livestock sales and everything
else is on Friday.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
How many of these have you been through?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
This will be my tenth, Yeah, this will be my
ninth or tenth.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So how important is the sale? Because we were trying
to use these podcasts in the part to educate folks
about coming out and seeing the projects and talking to
the kids about their projects, but more importantly coming back Thursday.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And Friday and maybe buying a project. So talk about
how important the auction is. I mean, you work all
year for this one day in the ring, right, what's
it mean to you?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I think it means a lot when people come out
and support us because we worked all summer for this,
and if we wouldn't have people support us, then we
couldn't do it the next year. If you pay for
it out of pocket all by yourself, it's kind of
expensive to show animals, So when you don't have people
supporting you, it's very hard to do it the next year,
to do what you love and like to keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
How many hours do you work on your project?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I mean, how you start a spring late spring?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Yeah, chickens are like the middle of June because it's
like a six week project. But like the goats, they're
born in like mostly January, so you would have them
like pretty much the winter until fair.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So, so do you have goats?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
No, I showed goats for like nine years before this.
But building yeah pretty much. Yeah I can show yeah, yeah, no,
we can do it because cut it's done so right.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
How much time do you do you all spend on
your projects?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Pigs?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It was winded pigs. It was like, I don't know,
one two hours a night, every night, every night.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I mean with the animals, people, you can't take the
weekend off, right.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Unless you have a lovely mother who takes care of
them when you're gone.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You can just call Kelly.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'm sure Kelly would love to do that.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I don't know why I have never thought of that before.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Take a weekend off.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Call Kelly, she'll take care of before or Melissa.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, Lissa loves animals, yes, and so she definitely the
morning of the fair parade, she had to go birds
some pigs, right right, Alissa, excuse me, my bad.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
It's still a big job. They need food, so it's fine.
Like yeah, Still, I've.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Never asked this of any of our other guests.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But do you guys have any stories about about four
age staff?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I mean, you have.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Alyssa, you've got Kelly. Surely they can't be perfect all
the time. Can you think of an instance when they
work perfect?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
You know, they're really stressed in the office. So like
one the one day I went in there, unless I
just seemed stressed and I was talking to her and
she still seems stressed. So I just walked away, and
later I came back and she was better. She just
needed a minute. Kelly has those times too, So they're
just really stressed in there. They just seem a minute.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So it's nick see the problem. No, No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Probably anybody else got good stories on them while they're
out there, because you know they will volunteer to come
in here and talk.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Oh they did save me and Sarah at a junior
fairboord meaning one time. Yeah, we have We're just like
the storytellers, honestly, we keep them entertained.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I feel, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
So we we Me and Sarah were driving home and
I happened to have ran over a cone in the
fairgrounds and it got lodged underneath my car and then
we called Alissa and she brought James and they had
(10:14):
to jack.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Up my car in the middle of the fair grounds.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, we tried before we called because it was embarrassing,
but because her car was making weird noise and for
some reason we thought it was fine.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It was very dramatically loud a quarter mile.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
With this cone, and that's when we decided to pull
over and probably figure out what was going on. So yeah, yes,
Kelly and Alyssa and they sent us a source named James,
and yeah, and we had Craig and Joe Anne.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
We had a whole audience watching this go down.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Anything you want people.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
To know about the fair were like almost halfway through
still times, so it is all the judging done for rabbits.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I think it is clothes I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I have no idea, could not tell you you.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Have any more shows coming up that you're all in.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Nope, I think we're all in just chickens and that
was on Saturday, So I think we're all done other
than the auction and the.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Auction okay, So we want again and encourage people to
come out Thursday.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I think it starts at four, is that right? Auction
starts at four on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Then resumes again on Friday morning, so please come out
and support the Junior Fair. We want to thank everybody
for tuning into this edition of ACF four one one.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
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to this forever. You guys will be there forever now.
But you go you download the free iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
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you can listen to them all. We'll be right back
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this
All right, and we are back to another episode of
ACF four one one.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's the Allen County fair Information on the iHeart Podcast
parlor used to be the milk parlor here at the
Allen County Fairgrounds. It's just on the north end of
the dairy building. And of course our podcasts this week
are powered by Nutrient. We also want to thank Spencer
Sugar Shop that gave us cookies, so everybody that comes
in and talks to us in the podcast parlors can
(00:25):
help themselves to some cookies. And we also want to
thank our friends at the Allen County Dairy Services for
letting us use their building. And we also need to
thank Alex will if our engineer, for making us sound
good tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
So thanks Alex. All Right, so we've got some very
special guests with us on this episode. We have Abby,
Sarah and Claire. So welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Hi guys, Hello, hi, oh oh, and you have fans
outside the window.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
This is great.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
We don't always get a fan base when we do these,
so you guys are pretty special. So let's just we'll
start with Abby and go down the line. But so
tell me about the projects you've got going on at
the fair.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Well, I have some pretty mean chickens, mean chicken, mean chickens.
And then I took a scrap booking project too.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
All right, So we haven't had anybody that yet. It's
doing a special product. So tell us about special projects.
We haven't talked about that at all.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, I completed a book on it, and then I
obviously made the project. It's been something I've been doing,
like for a couple of years though, like just building
it up.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So what all is in your scrap book?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
It's every season of high school sports I've done.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And what sports?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Cross country, basketball and softball?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Wow? Nice, very versatile. All right, Sarah, what projects you
have going on this year?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I just decided to take meat chickens.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
That's it, just meat chickens. Just meat chickens. Yep. So
is that crunchy or barbecue?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Either.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Honestly, they're both pretty good.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
They're good, Claire, what do you.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I also did meet chickens, and then I did two
special interest projects. I did a mentoring one and Your
Thoughts Matter one for mental health.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So so explained both projects to us a little bit.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
The mentoring one, I had a little boy in my
four age club and I helped him like with his projects.
If he had any questions, I would help him and
like just get him through like the year and stuff.
And then my other one, I had to fill out
a book and just do like definitions and like stuff
about mental health, like the facts, like the numbers and stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Okay, and we're right across from the U Matter.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Booth, so yeah, it's perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yesterday, that was pretty cool. Yeah, so what's it like
mentoring a little boy?
Speaker 5 (02:46):
It was fun because you went all through through all
of those like years that he hasn't been through, so
you could tell him like stuff that he didn't know,
so you could like further him and better him for
the years that he has to go.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So, so, ladies, how's stressful is it when you're in
the judging arena with your with your project and and
you're depending on an animal to do things.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I'm gonna speak from years previous with my pigs I
have done. I've shown pigs for nine years, and you
work all summer with them obviously, and like all the
pressure is put on one day, one moment and something.
Sometimes things just don't go your way and it is unfortunate,
(03:30):
but you definitely learn from it.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You grow from it.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
But what's as you did your pig? Ever? Do anything
really goofy in the judging ring? Not?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I think goofy just really frustrating, you know, Like no,
they just like yelled the whole time.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, because we had we had King Brody in here
first and his took him for a ride.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Oh has happened before.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And now that I think about that, I would surprise
me if they peed down my boot too.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
That would that would be that would be embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But not in the ring, but like as I was
walking them.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, how about you, Sarah, you look like you have
an embarrassing moment you want to Well.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I've taken rabbits, goats and chickens, and I think like
over the years, I think like the worst thing that's
happened is just like a rabbit, Like I think when
I first started, obviously, like when you're that little, you
don't know what's going on sometimes and it's like dropping
a rabbit, is I feel like pretty.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Common in that barn. Surprisingly, I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Know if they I would say they bounce, They probably
just like do a little like oh that hurt, and
then just like going with their lives, like like most
people yeah, yeah, they speak to us.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Someone rabbit, they said, who that hurts?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, definitely, yep, you had to be there to see it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
We could go back and you could reenact it.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Oh yeah, if you have a rabbit for me, that'd
be yeah, I can reenact it perfect.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, Claire, I haven't had that happen. But this isn't fun.
But a lot of go it's like to jump, like
when you're trying to like show it and like get
it ready for the judge to like feel it and
see if it has a good muscular structure, and they
kind of like jump at you. So that's probably the
most embarrassing thing and you're like, okay, you can stop.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
That right now.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Okay, now if it wasn't your project, did you ever
see something happen to a friend and you're like, oh, man,
I'm not Yeah, I've.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Caught a few goats, like like a little kids showing
and like they like go of it or like like
slips the collar, so you like like catch it while
they're showing.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But yeah, you know, but with at least with rabbits
and chickens or something, they're not that big.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
They're not like the holl guy that if it decides
it's leaving, it's gone. Yep.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
A little bit heavier too.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Have you ever chased your chicken to rabbits?
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I had a bed one this year.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Oh yeah, it ran away from me in the yard
and I couldn't get it.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It made me feel very unathletic. But you're in all
those sports I retired, So.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Let's talk a little bit about So for rabbits and chickens.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Anyway, it's Thursday night at the livestock sales and everything
else is on Friday.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
How many of these have you been through?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
This will be my tenth, Yeah, this will be my
ninth or tenth.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So how important is the sale? Because we were trying
to use these podcasts in the part to educate folks
about coming out and seeing the projects and talking to
the kids about their projects, but more importantly coming back Thursday.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And Friday and maybe buying a project. So talk about
how important the auction is. I mean, you work all
year for this one day in the ring, right, what's
it mean to you?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I think it means a lot when people come out
and support us because we worked all summer for this,
and if we wouldn't have people support us, then we
couldn't do it the next year. If you pay for
it out of pocket all by yourself, it's kind of
expensive to show animals, So when you don't have people
supporting you, it's very hard to do it the next year,
to do what you love and like to keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
How many hours do you work on your project?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I mean, how you start a spring late spring?
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Yeah, chickens are like the middle of June because it's
like a six week project. But like the goats, they're
born in like mostly January, so you would have them
like pretty much the winter until fair.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
So, so do you have goats?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
No, I showed goats for like nine years before this.
But building yeah pretty much. Yeah I can show yeah, yeah, no,
we can do it because cut it's done so right.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
How much time do you do you all spend on
your projects?
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Pigs?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It was winded pigs. It was like, I don't know,
one two hours a night, every night, every night.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I mean with the animals, people, you can't take the
weekend off, right.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Unless you have a lovely mother who takes care of
them when you're gone.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
You can just call Kelly.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'm sure Kelly would love to do that.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I don't know why I have never thought of that before.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Take a weekend off.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Call Kelly, she'll take care of before or Melissa.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, Lissa loves animals, yes, and so she definitely the
morning of the fair parade, she had to go birds
some pigs, right right, Alissa, excuse me, my bad.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
It's still a big job. They need food, so it's fine.
Like yeah, Still, I've.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Never asked this of any of our other guests.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But do you guys have any stories about about four
age staff?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I mean, you have.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Alyssa, you've got Kelly. Surely they can't be perfect all
the time. Can you think of an instance when they
work perfect?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
You know, they're really stressed in the office. So like
one the one day I went in there, unless I
just seemed stressed and I was talking to her and
she still seems stressed. So I just walked away, and
later I came back and she was better. She just
needed a minute. Kelly has those times too, So they're
just really stressed in there. They just seem a minute.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So it's nick see the problem. No, No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Probably anybody else got good stories on them while they're
out there, because you know they will volunteer to come
in here and talk.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Oh they did save me and Sarah at a junior
fairboord meaning one time. Yeah, we have We're just like
the storytellers, honestly, we keep them entertained.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I feel, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
So we we Me and Sarah were driving home and
I happened to have ran over a cone in the
fairgrounds and it got lodged underneath my car and then
we called Alissa and she brought James and they had
(10:14):
to jack.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Up my car in the middle of the fair grounds.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, we tried before we called because it was embarrassing,
but because her car was making weird noise and for
some reason we thought it was fine.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
It was very dramatically loud a quarter mile.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
With this cone, and that's when we decided to pull
over and probably figure out what was going on. So yeah, yes,
Kelly and Alyssa and they sent us a source named James,
and yeah, and we had Craig and Joe Anne.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
We had a whole audience watching this go down.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Anything you want people.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
To know about the fair were like almost halfway through
still times, so it is all the judging done for rabbits.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I think it is clothes I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I have no idea, could not tell you you.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Have any more shows coming up that you're all in.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Nope, I think we're all in just chickens and that
was on Saturday, So I think we're all done other
than the auction and the.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Auction okay, So we want again and encourage people to
come out Thursday.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I think it starts at four, is that right? Auction
starts at four on Thursday.
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Then resumes again on Friday morning, so please come out
and support the Junior Fair. We want to thank everybody
for tuning into this edition of ACF four one one.
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