March 31, 2026 • 50 mins
What if the secret to building a profitable business wasn't working harder, but working with more joy? Arliss Dudley-Cash discovered this truth the hard way after performing over 5,000 autopsies as a deputy coroner, burning out in a PhD program, and being diagnosed with a rare genetic condition that doctors said would give her only one year to live. Her journey from forensic pathologist to neuroscience researcher to soul-centered business consultant reveals how entrepreneurship becomes the ultimate mirror for every unhealed trauma we carry. Through her company Solutions LLC, Arliss helps driven professionals break free from the old model of success that demands you work yourself to death to prove your worth.
In this conversation, Arliss shares her "work gentle, joy hard" philosophy and explains why curiosity is an entrepreneur's superpower for getting out of fear-based decision making. She reveals the simple tools that transformed her schedule from overwhelming to manageable, allowing her to work just three days a week while building a thriving business. You'll discover why asking yourself ridiculous questions can shift your brain from fear to possibility, and learn the specific apps and systems that can streamline your operations without sacrificing impact. This episode will challenge everything you believe about what it takes to achieve success while maintaining your health and happiness.
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In this conversation, Arliss shares her "work gentle, joy hard" philosophy and explains why curiosity is an entrepreneur's superpower for getting out of fear-based decision making. She reveals the simple tools that transformed her schedule from overwhelming to manageable, allowing her to work just three days a week while building a thriving business. You'll discover why asking yourself ridiculous questions can shift your brain from fear to possibility, and learn the specific apps and systems that can streamline your operations without sacrificing impact. This episode will challenge everything you believe about what it takes to achieve success while maintaining your health and happiness.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Oh hello everyone. Welcome to Achieving Success with Olivia Actin.
I am your host, Olivia Akin. Each week we will
discuss the romance of achieving your personal and professional success.
We give you real life stories on growing personally and
professionally to achieve your life and career goals with the
help of some top notch guests. Today we are speaking
(00:29):
with Artless Dudley Cash. Artist is the founder of Solutions LLC,
a company she created to help entrepreneurs, professionals, and busy
on individuals who are navigating life's challenges while striving to
grow their business. With a wholehearted approach, she empowers others
to build a business rooted in self, love, healing, and purpose.
(00:54):
Her mission is clear to show the true success comes
not just from strategy, but from aligning your business with
who you are at your core. Through her own educational
and entrepreneurial journey, Arlest has cultivated wisdom and tools to
guide others in creating both balanced and sustainable growth. You
(01:15):
can find our list by going to her website Solutions
dot com or by emailing her at Arlest at solutions
dot com. Hello, Arlest, it's fantastic having you on the
show today.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm so grateful to be here with you today.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I am grateful to have you and I have enjoyed
the conversations we've had before this recording. Probably some stuff
will also be going into today, but I really want
to start off this show with can you tell me
what success means and looks like to our list?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Stubley Cash.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, to me, success is feeling healthy, feeling a sense
of joy in my line, and having a lot of fun.
I love the fun.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Part because a lot of times people leave that out,
and that's one of the amazing reasons why. And people
joke I start every episode with this question, and people
are like, you start with the same question, and like,
no matter how many times I ask it, everyone answers
it differently, and I'm like, and I love the fact
that you added fun to it, because we need to
(02:26):
be having fun in what we do, what we're passionate about,
but also other aspects of our life as well.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I also feel like it's one of the things that
kind of falls off the plate first is when our
plate gets full, it's the thing that's on the outer
edge and it falls off and we don't even notice
that it's gone until it's like when's the last time
I laughed? When's the last time like I smiled so
much my cheeks hurt. When's the last time that I
(02:53):
felt silly or had a silly part to my day?
And those are so important to us having resiliency in
our business, And.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Like that hit me just now, and I think it's
so important. I was like, yes, preach it please, because
I remember when you were saying that one thing I've
remembered is going from working in professional sports to corporate
to start your own business. I was like, okay, be professional,
but also like now I get to show.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Who I am right and in my podcast.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And I remember when I started my podcast at first,
like my first three episodes, I was asking questions. I
really wasn't giving my own insight or my own connective
story to what the guest was saying. I was really
giving them this space to talk and maybe adding something
here or there. And I got an email from someone
(03:48):
who wanted to be a guest, and we went on
to talk and he goes, I've been listening since day one,
and when you started, you didn't really like show any
part of your own personality. And then X amount of
episodes in you shared like this really impactful story you
had and it really made me feel like the layer
(04:11):
was coming off. And like after that, like I thought
about and I was like, that's so right, and I
enjoyed being able to like spend the five minutes and
tell that story and then grow the conversation from there
and like really showed that like yeah, I've been there too,
like let's be honest here. And so from that moment,
I was like, yes, I need to be doing more
(04:31):
of that. We need to be leaning into that. But
also like to your point, it is one of the
things like Okay, I have all these things to get
done going out to dinner. We'll just miss tonight, We'll
do it tomorrow because I got all these things on
my plate, or you know whatever, the plethora of things
(04:53):
that could be fun to you. I remember this week.
I was like, when was this last? I like les,
and I was like once last time I build the
legou easily six months, And I was like, I need
to do this at some point over the weekend, like
spend an hour build this out, like have some joy.
(05:13):
But lastly, because I know, I'm like like saying a.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Handful of things right now.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I remember when I met my boyfriend and we were
dating for a while and I was laughing more. I
was finally feeling like myself. And we had a conversation
similar to this topic, and I was like, you know,
for the longest time, I felt like I needed.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I iconic completely be myself.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I needed to show up how the person in front
of me, whether it was a professional athlete, an owner,
you know, howld that a friend how they needed or
saw me as showing up and not just showing up
completely as me, even if sometimes it's a little uncomfortable,
you know. And I was like, once I started pulling
(06:02):
those layers back, I was like, people in my who
I work with love it even more because they know, like, oh,
this is how all of you thinks.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
She's gonna tell me how she thinks. You know, there's no.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Awkwardness in it. People connect with you more. Even in
personal life. It's like, oh, this is more fun. It
makes everything work.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Luck, Yeah, it does. And when we're having fun in
our lives or in our business, the stress doesn't stresses
out as much. And there's an old saying work hard,
play hard, And what I like to say is work gentle,
joy hard. So like, how do we bring that joy
into our life and in our business and really have
(06:47):
that lesson the stress that happens, because we're all gonna
have stress. You know. I like to ask any humans
in the realm, right, we all have our hand up.
We're gonna have stress in our lives. That's just a
normal part of being a human. On this plan, it
when we have joy and fun, it reduces that stress
or it reduces the weight of that stress, and it
allows us to be more successful as individuals.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So that being said, in twenty nineteen, you decided and
founded Solutions, a business that is dedicated to literally helping
people bring soul into their work. That's a bold move
in a business world like we've already said that prioritizes.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Things like hustle and profit.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
What personal experience or struggle pushed you to create a
business that was rooting in pushing the boundaries a little
bit in what we might prioritize and something that was
truly different? And how did you know entrepreneurs needed this?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh? I knew they needed this because I needed this.
I mean I feel like we create that what's what
we need or we even teach that which we need
to learn. Uh So, so this was I mean, I
obviously want to be helping other people and selfishly, these
are all things that I need to be learning myself
in a deeper and deeper way every day. I have
(08:12):
always been very success driven, but like an old model
of what success looked like. So I was the person
that took thirty five units in a quarter and went
on to do you know, ninety hours of research and
classes in a PhD program and things like that, and
really burned myself out to the point where my health
(08:33):
struggled significantly. And I'm sure we'll end up talking about
that more, but it was a huge wake up call
to me that I could not continue to live under
that old model of success, that I had to figure
out a different way that worked for me. And what
I realized in that pursuit was that there were so
(08:54):
many other people out there like me that felt like
they really literally had to work themselves to death in
order to be successful. And I didn't want to believe
that that was true. And so through solutions, I really
look at how can business be profitable and successful and
(09:15):
the owner feel good about themselves and feel healthy in
their body and mind in the process, And what does
that look like, and to be honest with you, that
view is evolving every day as I meet new people
and get new experience.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Well, and that being said, as you're guiding entrepreneurs and
professionals who are juggling a lot of different responsibilities, responsibilities
and expectations that feel never ending. From your perspective, what
do those struggles reveal about deeper patterns of self worth
(09:52):
or healing identity and how do help yourself break through
those when you feel that coming on? But also the
entrepreneurs and individuals you work with.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You know, entrepreneurship is like the grand mirror of all
the trauma we've ever experienced in our lives. I mean,
I'd love to say it in a nicer way, but
it's true. We have to wear so many different hats
and be all aspects in our business, and it just
it brings forward all the different areas that we've experienced
(10:28):
challenge and didn't heal in that moment, and have brought
that challenge or that trauma forward, and entrepreneurship gives the
opportunity for people to heal in a deeper way if
they want to, If they want to heal in a
deeper way, or if they want to go deeper into
the challenge and in a deeper way, honestly, And I
(10:49):
think some of the things that happen as we grow up,
and it's not because people are wanting to do this
or cause this, is that we feel like we're not
good enough, or we feel like we have to compare
ourselves to others, or somebody that was in an authority
figure told us that something we did was wrong or bad,
(11:11):
and so we decided that we could never do that again,
like speak loudly or share our truth or take risks
or things like that. And entrepreneurship brings all of that up,
and it really is like here, here's all the things
that you have the opportunity to heal. And most of us,
(11:33):
most people don't really want to go into that healing.
It's scary. I mean, it's it's it's really a brave
thing to do. And my hope is with solutions and
with there's a lot of other people that are that
are doing this type of work that we holistically, including yourself, Olivia,
that we can support people in being in the place
(11:55):
to be brave and say, yes, I want to heal
from these things. I want to I as a person.
I want to move into a place where I am
my authentic self and I take really good care of
myself during the process.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I love how I bring up like entrepreneurship literally pulls
back that curtain, and everything you are good at can
get amplified. But everything you've been scared, fearful, or feel
like isn't in alignment will also get amplified. And I
think it's one of those things that it gets amplified
(12:31):
in how you show up for the business you're building
and how you show up personally. Because as entrepreneurs, yes
there's work and life right and us outside of life
or outside work, outside of life, outside work.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
They tend to spill out over into each other's areas.
And so I remember one thing I used to always say, like,
and it would be a joke because partially a joke
I realized early on in the kind of individual I
am in college, like, I don't really understand sales. So
(13:14):
I like participated in a sales pitch competition and they
gave you, like a case and you had to pitch it.
And it was a regional competition that happened yearly, and
it was something like I did two years and then
the third year, they weren't offering it anymore, and like
the university wasn't offering to like send the students.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
To do this. And I sat there and I went
through it.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I didn't do great, and I was like, I still
don't understand like how to pitch or like how to sell.
So I tell people, like when I would talk to
them or these different areas like, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Not great at selling.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I don't sell like I don't and like I tell
people and even when I start my business, I'm like,
I'm not a salesperson. I'm not here to sell you.
Like it was something and I was kind of reinforcing it, right,
I was saying verbally to the person from me, Yeah,
I don't sell, not great at it. I don't try
to be like not my goal in the business. Now,
(14:19):
any entrepreneur or anybody knows, like you gotta be able
to sell to make money, I mean, you know, and
grow like there is money that gets involved, and so like,
I was very lucky to have people like our lists
in my corner who would refer and that client would
sign and then they would love their experience so much
(14:41):
they would refer resign and like all these different things.
So I would go to networking events and like, yeah,
I don't sell. They're like, how do you not sell?
I'm like, my whole client base is referral park like
referrals or and then be like wait, your whole client
base is referrals like and like yeah, and like then
the big shock for me at least, and I know
(15:04):
we've talked about this is when I went to elevate
my business. I was like, yes, we're doing awesome. We're
doing awesome. I want to take it to the next level.
Well not everyone who's referring to you at that point
where all those clients are now right for that next
growth stretch.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
In your business.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And now I'm going, oh, wait, my business is all referrals. Oh,
this can be problematic. Not because they're all referrals. Referrals
are amazing individuals like our lists who literally referral all
the time, and I continue to hear great things. They
are powerhouses and they you should have a business that
(15:45):
refers and like you keep your clients for a long time. However,
in that moment I realized I was like, shit, I
know my strength is not selling, and like having these
like sales, I get uncomfortable in these moments. I have
(16:06):
to get comfortable with being uncomfortable with this and lean
in one hundred thousand percent because it is long term
going to be the only one, the only things that
is going to help me get to where I want
to be and know I can rely on myself to
do it and I don't you know this and that,
(16:27):
and so like pulled it back to a point like
you were saying, where like you can go down and
build up that self worth because in saying I'm not
a salesperson, right, I'm beating myself down mentally on the topic.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I'm reinforcing that mindset.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I'm not healing from like different things that might have
been said and building a skill.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
But I was I.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Finally got to a point where I was like, yes,
I'm going to be the powerhouse behind this. I'm going
to get so comfortable with it. And now like I
do things and like I'm like, yeah, that didn't even
feel like a convers like a sales conversation, or someone
will sign and they're like, I know, we just had
a sales conversation, but that didn't seem like it, and
(17:13):
like a wait, yeah, because I'm so comfortable with it now,
but you have.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
To be in the mindset of doing that.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And that being said, I want to go back a
little bit to your journey and one thing you had
mentioned earlier was you have different PhDs. You actually one
thing I think is so interesting is you really started
in a different profession like myself. And I always say
(17:40):
you can pivot careers, you can pivot industries. I have
a joke that, like, I have lived five different career lives.
I mean, if you look at it, it's honestly true.
But you've kind of done the same. So when you
were in college, what did you do you think you
(18:01):
were going to be doing the rest of your life,
and what were you going to school for? And then
what was that moment we started to be like, Okay,
maybe I need to.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Do this a little bit, this needs to change.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, I thought that I was going to be a
forensic pathologist. So in my senior year of high school,
I read my very first what do you call that?
Like a true crime novel? And I got fascinated with forensics,
and I decided that that's what I was going to
(18:37):
do in college. And I wrote my own major at
the University of California, Santa Cruz in forensic science with
anthropology and medical sciences emphasis, and I loved it. I
worked as a deputy corner intern while I was in college,
and I was also an intern at a crime lab
(18:58):
for four years, and once I graduated, I became a
deputy corner. As a deputy corner, I got to do
a lot of what I thought I would ultimately be doing,
which is autopsies. So I did over five thousand autopsies
as a deputy corner in the time that I was there.
(19:20):
And I was totally fascinated with the human body and
anatomy and the science behind it, and I still am today.
I am a total nerd that loves to nerd. The
emotional challenge of dealing with death every day was not
something that I had considered with that career choice. And
(19:41):
I remember very vividly leaving work one day and I
would go to my dad's office because he lived or
his office was right around the corner from where I worked,
and I would talk to him about my day. And
I remember walking in and saying, I just don't know
how to make this fun and he said, well made
you should consider doing something else, and so That was
(20:04):
the turning point that day of realizing that as fascinating
and interesting and as much of a difference as I
could make, it still was never going to be laugh
out loud fun. And you have to realize that I
was the person coming in in pink scrubs and pigtails,
like realizing that my bright, sunshiny personality was never going
(20:26):
to be a good fit for death investigation. So I
applied to graduate schools all out of California, and I
decided to go to the University of Iowa, and I
ultimately chose neuroscience for a PhD program. I had to
leave after three and a half years because my health
declined and I was diagnosed with a rare genetic condition
(20:49):
and I was told at the time that I only
had a year to live. So I left with a
master's in neuroscience, which I really loved too. I loved
studying neuroscience, I love doing the research. And I moved
to Hawaii because my parents had retired here, and eventually
I got healthy again and accidentally started my own business
(21:11):
and jewelry design. I eventually sold that business. I worked
in corporate for a couple of years doing director of
operations work, and then I went on to start solutions
after I got my master's in business administration. So I
am working on my first doctorate of religious sciences right
(21:32):
now and I'm hopeful that I will be complete with
it by the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Well I love that, and I want to touch upon
that in a minute. But as I know your backstory,
but even hearing it again, it made me think. And
I don't know if you've watched this television show, but
this is a new show that has one series seasoned out,
and I really hope it gets another one because I
like it because I'm a crime person. But I also
(21:59):
knew growing up with a medical issue and like having
onto needles, I don't do needles, so like doing the needles,
doing the I would have never survived. And having two
parents who work in the medical field. People look at
me and they're like wait, what, like come on now,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Like no, no, no, like it's bad, Like I can't
do it.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So I live my like medical crime, you know, being
able to help in that area through television and being.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Able to watch it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
But there's this new show called Bad Monkey, Yeah, Bad Monkey,
and it is about a cop who kind of stumbles
on this case. He's gotten in trouble, so he was like, uh,
on leave. They asked him to help. They just told
him like, hey, it wasn't a crime, and he's like, no,
(22:51):
something's off and he reaches out to a corner to
look at it, and they've become very close. I'm not
gonna be the whole story, but basically part of the
Corners trajectory and storyline is that she's struggling with the
fact that it's a lot of depth and evaluating how
(23:14):
like over time her personality has shifted, her joy has
shifted because even though she knows she's making the impact.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Is like, oh wait at what cost?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So like you watching that show a few weeks ago
and now re hearing that story, I'm like, yes, yes,
like it's but it's something too that like we all
I think go through in order to say this is
where I need to be now. And I want to
go into a little bit though, like what made you
(23:48):
decide to after starting your business and going through that
journey to not only have your business and be growing
your business and making an impact with working with individuals,
but also getting your page to get the same time.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, So why am I getting a doctor in religious science.
I love lifelong learning. I mean, I keep thinking that
at some point I'm not going to want to be
in school, But I love being in school. I love
learning new things, I love hearing different perspectives. I love
seeing the world through a different lens. And being in
(24:29):
school stretches me in that way. And so, you know,
I jokingly or maybe not so jokingly, say, as soon
as I, you know, finished ministerial school, then I'll be
in law school. We'll see what happens. I just I
don't I can't imagine not being in a learning environment.
(24:50):
And what's interesting is I teach as well. I teach
at the University of Kwaihilo, so I'm on the other
side of things as well. And I will say that
being a student make me a better teacher, Like I
learn things from being a student myself. I learned what
I like and what really works, and I learn what
I don't like, and I change my own behavior as
(25:13):
a professor myself. So I feel like the two go
hand in hand. And I just can't imagine not being
a lifelong learner.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And I think the life on learners one is like
a flex being like yeah, I can continue to learn,
and I love it because for me, like I say,
even whether it was in the classroom orund of the classroom,
I'm always looking at things and challenging and like this
and that. And I remember in between my undergrad and
(25:45):
grad and then going to teach, I was getting certifications.
And some of these certifications had nothing to do with
my job. Like if you think about between my undergrad
and grad, I was working.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
In professional sports.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And by the time I got into grad school, I
had my SHARM certification, which is HR.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I had a project management certification.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I had like one other that I'm blanking on right now,
none of them in sports because sports doesn't really have certifications,
And people were like, why are you gang these? I'm like,
because they're interesting and I might need to pull something
like a project management concept into a projects we're working
on for the team, or you know, on this clothing
(26:31):
line or this or that, like it's all this information
coming together. And then went back to school, got my
MBA in supply chain and I ended up getting certifications
in ASM, which is the Association for Supply Chain Management.
I have Green Belt certifications, I have coding certifications, like
(26:53):
I'm like literally no joke, degree certification in every business
area and people are like, how, like wind, would you
spend all this time? And like because it all works together?
And now like with what I do, like I get
to have so many different conversations with people and being
able to go, oh, like the way my mind works,
(27:15):
like this could connect this way or this or that,
but also like now, like again that sales strategy, and
like learning that I did learn that in the classroom,
and I acknowledge that was something I was not learning
in the classroom. So I took it upon myself to
be like, Okay, what can I get my hands on
(27:36):
what do I have found through research the best tools
that align with me how I learn and how I
show up that I could use And like my friends joke,
some of them will have like courses, right, consultants will
do courses and they'll be in different areas.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And like one of my friends.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Literally texted me yesterday and she goes, I just released
this will take this course and I'm like, yeah, it'll
be done tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I'll go through all of it.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I'll do it, and like I walk away and I
just learned something new and I was able to help
her because I was able to give feedback. But it's like,
I feel like, if you turn off your curiosity brain,
how much are you continuing to glorrow.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Or are you gain complacent?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah? Absolutely, and curiosity is a superpower. People don't think
about it as that, but a lot of entrepreneurs get
really stuck in fear and anxiety, frustration, anger around stuff
and business and they use that to motivate them. But
what they do when they do that is they get
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really focused in their amygdala, which is the So if
our brain is a hand and our wrist is our
brain stem and then our fingers going over our frontal lobe,
that might right there is the amygdala. It's actually about
that size and that's the fear part of the brain.
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And when we get really focused on our amygdala, in
our abygdala, we see things through the lems of fear,
which can really limit what we're doing in our business.
Whereas when we get curious, we're right into that frontal
lobe of our brain. And that's where really great decision
making comes from. That's where confidence comes from, that's where
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actual positive motivation comes from, and it really changes how
people see their business when they're able to get curious.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
So how do you get curious?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Oh, well, in a lot of different ways. I'm I
listen to audio books, like that is my jam, So
I'm listening. I listen to probably close to one hundred
audiobooks a year in all different types of topics. So
that's one way. The other way is I ask myself
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really ridiculous questions when I get into that fear space.
So if I'm in a really fearful place around my
business or in life, I'll ask myself, like, if a
monkey jumped out of the tree right now, would you
offer a banana? And like, just asking myself that ridiculous
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question gets me into my thinking brain and gets me
out of that fearful brain. And what I know about
myself is as soon as I do that, I see
so many more options. I also love to have fascinating
conversations with people, I mean, which is obviously one of
the ways you get curious. People are stunningly interesting and
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I could never endingly have conversations with them, especially you.
I think you're great, Well.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Thank you, I appreciate that. But it's also to your point,
I think getting out of the fear safe, like the
way it just describes that and like, this is where
fear set and this is what it looks like and
this is where curiosity SAIDs and like how that really
integrates into.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
How we show up is so powerful.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
How do you through the work you're doing with your clients,
like help them get out of that space, because I'm
assuming and correcting if I'm wrong when they start working
with you, you're doing an evaluation of all different aspects
and having the hard conversations.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, absolutely, well.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
One is I I ask them to get curious around
what tools could help them do their business better so
that they're not feeling so overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And I can't tell you how many entrepreneurs I work
with that have no idea how to edit their own website,
don't have a calendly setup, I don't have a Google
search page set up, I don't know how to use
an app on their phone to track to dos and
things like that. Is not a judgment, by the way,
It's just a fact that there are tons of tools
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out there and most entrepreneurs are not using them to
their benefit. And so that's one of the ways that
I asked them to get curious and then instead of
setting it up for them. I teach them how to
set it up themselves so that they feel confident and
secure and comfortable and managing that aspect of their business.
And usually that tool is taking some type of workload
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off their plate.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
And I love that because even when you were talking
about it, I was like, I don't know, Like I
have my web like my web page, and there's been
times I've needed to change things and I've gone back
to the person who helped me set it up. I'm like, hey,
I want this change, and then takes longer than I expect.
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Sometimes I'm like, Okay, if I just knew how this worked,
like where so I didn't mess it up, then I
would have just gone I didn't do it myself because
I am in the back end, like I see it,
I have access to.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It, this and that.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
So like I'm like, yeah, I'm on those people. I
don't know how to edit my own one page, but
I find that tools like you said, calendar.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Powerhouse stool.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I remember when I started my I started my business
and podcasts in November and in May, someone was like.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Hey, can I have your calendy link. I'm like, calendar,
what's calendar?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Like this is like five months into the business, right,
Like they're like, have you not heard of calending now?
Mind you, this is like May of twenty twenty three,
so like it was newer and I was like no,
and they're.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Like, oh, you need to set one up like today.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
This will streamline your emails of like setting up meetings
this and that, and now it's like so easy if
I want a different block of time for people or
like have them decide what kind of meeting or this
or that a consulting you know, like hey, this is
just like an onboarding call versus consulting, Like just send
them the link. So easy, and like I do agree,
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like having the right tool and understanding the tools can
save flethora of time. I recently was having conversation with
someone and I was joking.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I was like, you.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Know, going from professional sports, and I'd love to hear
your journey on this as well. For me, going from
professional sports, where the expectation is in season, you're working
seven days a week, I was commuting an hour and
a half each way, you're working ten to sixteen hour
days depending on the day.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Game all that to.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Corporate, which for me was Lakheed Martin to which was
you're working. I started at nine eighties, but the expectation
was like you're not really clocking out out of your
out your nine hours, You're really working like ten eleven.
And then we switched to four tens and it was like, yeah,
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you're working your ten, but that expectation's really like a
thirteen hour day and you know this and that, and
so for me when I started my business, showing up
and putting in the hours and binding it out normal,
this is what you do, Like you got to at
least work the eight hours four five days a week
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and more when you're starting your business, and as time
growing the business, growing.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
This and that, and like I'm leveraging certain tools. I remember.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
When I started thinking about like taking the business to
the next level, I talked to a few consultants and
they were telling me how they work four hours a day,
five days a week, so twenty hour days, and like what.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Drugs are you taking?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Like what that's like you're out and you're telling me
you're making how much money, Like you're there's a disconnector
you're lying to me. Like I just felt this presence
of like you're bullshitting me, and I'm not.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Taking the bullshit like, come on now.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Because I was looking at like what I was doing,
how I was doing it, what I was trying to
make an impact in And I'm like how, because like
I've gotten to a point where I was working four
days a week and then maybe touching my computer Friday
for an hour or two or a few hours and
maybe over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
But I'm like.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
How in the world, Like, yeah, I take Friday off,
but my hours are like ten to fourteen Monday through Thursday.
Like what are you talking about? And I kept getting
like I got like four people to say this to me.
They're like, yeah, I work like a twenty to thirty
hour week, and like again you're on drugs, Like you're
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the second person, Like what is going on here? Like
you're lying to me? Stop, Like how this cannot equate?
And I remember having a conversation with my boyfriend and
this was kind of when I'd already started having those
(37:12):
conversations thinking about alevating the business. And he looked at
me one day he did seriously and he's like, what
does success look like for you long term with the business?
And like without missing a step, because I'm like little
sassy sometimes I was like it looks like being able
to work, you know, the four to six hours a
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day Monday through Thursday, not feeling the pressure to like
answer phone calls or you know, business stuff or checking
stuff outside of those business hours and like this and that.
And he looked at me and he laughed. He goads,
you're never gonna work just four hours a day because
like part of my own personality, Like he's like, you're
not working and then going sitting on the couch and
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he's like no.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
But if I you know, like one day.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
We have kids, like I won't be able to be
present and be joyful. As we mentioned earlier in those moments.
So when we got a dog and like.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
He's a puppy now, he uh, he had issues like
he was rescued. We rescued him. He had been.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Beaten, starved and left to die and was in a
seventy one dog courting situation, and so we did not
know what to expect personality wise, like him being in
the house. They're like I didn't know like what his
cues were, like, oh, I gotta go to the bathroom now,
Like I was so nervous. I was like every two
hours were going out to go to the bathroom. But
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at that time, I was like okay, challenged, accepted, can
I work this like six hour day? Like let's just
get down to like this six hour day. And granted
I wasn't recording at the time episodes, but I was like,
let's see and by leveraging certain tools that I added
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to my repertoire and like putting them in. Two weeks
went by, and I remember looking at my boyfriend because
he had been mind you, we got this dog Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Unexpectedly, we just were like called to this dog.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
We're like, yes, come on, you're coming with us. And
then Monday morning he went underway and he was gone
all way and so like I didn't see him.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
And then the next week he had to go underway again.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
So there was two weeks back to back where I
was like basically here just doing my thing. And so that,
you know, the weekend comes of that second week and
we're talking, he's like, how's working, And I'm like, I've
been working six hours for six hours. He's like you've
been doing what And I'm like, yeah, I've been leveraging
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these tools that I just added, and I'm super amped
about them, and you know, I'm now more specific on
who I play in my calendar, and I didn't realize
the power of not allowing everyone on your calendar makes
to your schedule. And I was like, oh shit, those
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people weren't bullshite. This is a real thing. This is
like and hitting that moment of like this can be
realistic in the business, and then being able to be
so much more joyful being present, being.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Excited to do everything, and being.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Like, yes, I can do that, Oh easily, you want
to do this, then no problem needs such a shift.
So I tell that whole story because I'd like to
hear like going off of those tools, like what was
your like, oh no, this is possible moment in your business,
and like as you help people, what do you see
(40:50):
kind of that shift happen as well?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, mine was out of necessity. Uh So, having a
chronic illness, I have to be really really careful with
my time, and if I overschedule myself, I get sick
and I take myself out of the game for a
long time. So when I started my business, of course
I wanted to go balls to the wall and have
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my schedule open and all these things. And I got
sick and then I did it again, and I got sick,
and I got did it again, and I got sick,
and I did it again, and I got sick. And eventually,
around like the fifth or sixth time, I finally got oh,
I can't do this anymore. I can't do this anymore.
Now does that mean that I don't still do it
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and get sick on occasion? I still do it on occasion.
I would love to say that I'm a perfect human.
I've learned this lesson. I don't do it anymore. That's
not true. I'm not. I still do it on occasion,
but I do it a lot less often. I do
it like once a year instead of multiple times a year.
And I try to be really careful. So I set
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my tools up like calmly and like the different things
where I'm only available on certain days and times. I
personally typically only work on Monday, Wednesday, Fridays from eight am.
Right now it's eight am because I'm teaching a college
class at eight am. Normally it would be like nine
or ten until about two or three in the afternoon.
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There are things that pull me in on the other
days that are one offs, Like once a month, I
go over to the Hawaii Island developed care Center, and
I do a two hour workshop for caregivers on a Saturday.
So there are things that are outside of that that
I have had negotiations with myself that are meaningful to
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me that I want to be able to do. I
think that for me, I have to ask myself, am
I being results oriented? Or am I really considering the
process of things? And that's what helps me stay in
the time windows. If I get really results oriented, I
get really focused on getting that result, and I am
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more likely to overwork myself or break my own boundaries.
That brings up the piece of having really strong boundaries
within oneself. If I get into the process of enjoying
the process of meeting with clients, or enjoying the process
of writing a paper, or enjoying the process of going
through the emails, and let go of the results focused part,
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then I'm more likely to hold those boundaries within myself.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
So I would be remiss without asking besides, County, what
is one or two of your favorite must have tools
in your business?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
So I have a checklist on my phone which I
call the care and Feeding of our Lists, and it
has on there physical movement eating a certain number of
grams of protein a day, taking my vitamins and things
like that, and I look at that every single day,
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and I invite every entrepreneur out there to have a
caring of feeding of Olivia or whatever it is. That
you know the things that you need to do to
take care of yourself and that you're checking those off.
It really allows me to show up better in my
business when I'm taking really good care of myself. I
use otter a lot so O t t er. It's
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a voice to text app. I use it to write
speeches and talks. I use it to write my classes,
I use it to write papers, I use it to
just take voice notes. Sometimes I use it to take
notes on meetings for me. So that's another big tool.
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And then number three or I guess I said three,
but number four I'll do one more is tiny Facts,
So there's an app on my phone. I don't have
to facts that often in my business, but when I
do tiny Facts on my phone saves the day. And
I can't tell you how many business owners I work
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with and they're like, I don't know where to facts.
I don't even know fax machines exist anymore, Like how
do I even do this thing, Tiny Facts on your
phone can be a game changer.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Well, I just learned a new app as well that
I definitely have to down because I do know on
your phone too, Like now it's at least with the iPhones,
like you could take a picture, save it as a PDF,
and then email it as a PDF, but I don't
know the facts part. So tiny Facts is going to
be added to.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
My repertoire now as well, Carles.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
How can people get in touch with you? If they
want to connect with you?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
The easiest way to get in touch with me is
you go to my website solutions dot com. That's s
O U l l U tios dot com and to
send me a message. I'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
And I'm gonna put that in the description as well,
so you could just click it and reach out to
our list.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Thank you our list for all of your insights today.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Thank you so much for everything you do, Olivia. I
am so grateful for you in this world.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Well, that means so much to me and I really
enjoy you sharing your story and giving all those insights,
and even in this conversation like as we're talking, yeah,
we're we've shared insights and even in past conversations, but
also like you got my brain turning. I'm like, okay,
am I optimizing every tool? Am I using every tool
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that I could be using? Like now, like after today,
I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna start checking, like where
can I add a tool? But also like I mentioned,
you've been such a great like connector referral and our
list referres one to me the other day, who I like,
we got on the phone and I was like, that
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person signed thank you so much. But even in that
conversation with that individual, when we talk about connection and
leading from a place of joy and impact, they were like,
Arlest is amazing, like the introductions, the way of thinking that,
like all these different aspects, and I was like, yeah,
she is, and that's why she's gonna be on my podcast.
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But I was like, I'm not surprised, and I want
to go over a few of those key takeaways from
today's conversation, which there's so many I had to limit it,
so no, not everything is covered, but work gentle and
joy hard. I love how Arlest brought this up early
(47:45):
in our conversation, and then it was really an overarching
theme of what we were talking about today is are
you showing up with joy?
Speaker 3 (47:53):
How often are you showing up with joy?
Speaker 1 (47:55):
It isn't just work hard play hard work gentle like
are you optimizing everything right?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Are?
Speaker 1 (48:02):
How are you working? And how is the joy showing up?
As well as create and teach what you need, what
you would want, what you need Like I think that's
so important is when you're talking to people. A lot
of people uralists brought this up. It comes from a
place of what they need support on, and most times
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it was something you needed support on at one point.
And that's how you became an expert in what you're
talking about, because you needed that and you didn't get
it and you went down the rabbit hole yourself. As
well as when you get in a fierce state, ask
yourself ridiculous question. This is something I'm gonna start trying
out as well, and I challenge everyone this week to
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at least one time when that fear state happens, to
ask yourself a ridiculous question and be able to reframe
yourself at that point. As well as what tools make
your business move the needle and move more smoothly and easier.
A new art list brought up multiple different times, different tools, calendar,
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easy acts, you know, all these different tools, and really say,
at Otter, am I using these tools? What tools can
I be moving easier? Because our list is a pure
example of this. I am an example of this. You
do not have to work the massive long days and
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the six five six days a week. Do have a
successful business that you're proud of, that moves the needle,
that impacts people, that is profitable. You can work the
three days artist works, you can work the four days
I work. You can work those four to six hour
days most of the time, as well as have negotiations
(49:54):
with yourself. I love that art List brought this up
because there are times that we have to check with
ourselves and say, okay is this work doing?
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Am I okay doing this? What will this give up?
Speaker 1 (50:06):
And have those negotiations. So I love that and this
was a great episode with our top notch guest Arlest
Dudley Cash. Thank you for listening and have a successful day.
Oh hello everyone. Welcome to Achieving Success with Olivia Actin.
I am your host, Olivia Akin. Each week we will
discuss the romance of achieving your personal and professional success.
We give you real life stories on growing personally and
professionally to achieve your life and career goals with the
help of some top notch guests. Today we are speaking
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with Artless Dudley Cash. Artist is the founder of Solutions LLC,
a company she created to help entrepreneurs, professionals, and busy
on individuals who are navigating life's challenges while striving to
grow their business. With a wholehearted approach, she empowers others
to build a business rooted in self, love, healing, and purpose.
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Her mission is clear to show the true success comes
not just from strategy, but from aligning your business with
who you are at your core. Through her own educational
and entrepreneurial journey, Arlest has cultivated wisdom and tools to
guide others in creating both balanced and sustainable growth. You
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can find our list by going to her website Solutions
dot com or by emailing her at Arlest at solutions
dot com. Hello, Arlest, it's fantastic having you on the
show today.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm so grateful to be here with you today.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I am grateful to have you and I have enjoyed
the conversations we've had before this recording. Probably some stuff
will also be going into today, but I really want
to start off this show with can you tell me
what success means and looks like to our list?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Stubley Cash.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, to me, success is feeling healthy, feeling a sense
of joy in my line, and having a lot of fun.
I love the fun.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Part because a lot of times people leave that out,
and that's one of the amazing reasons why. And people
joke I start every episode with this question, and people
are like, you start with the same question, and like,
no matter how many times I ask it, everyone answers
it differently, and I'm like, and I love the fact
that you added fun to it, because we need to
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be having fun in what we do, what we're passionate about,
but also other aspects of our life as well.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I also feel like it's one of the things that
kind of falls off the plate first is when our
plate gets full, it's the thing that's on the outer
edge and it falls off and we don't even notice
that it's gone until it's like when's the last time
I laughed? When's the last time like I smiled so
much my cheeks hurt. When's the last time that I
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felt silly or had a silly part to my day?
And those are so important to us having resiliency in
our business, And.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Like that hit me just now, and I think it's
so important. I was like, yes, preach it please, because
I remember when you were saying that one thing I've
remembered is going from working in professional sports to corporate
to start your own business. I was like, okay, be professional,
but also like now I get to show.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Who I am right and in my podcast.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And I remember when I started my podcast at first,
like my first three episodes, I was asking questions. I
really wasn't giving my own insight or my own connective
story to what the guest was saying. I was really
giving them this space to talk and maybe adding something
here or there. And I got an email from someone
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who wanted to be a guest, and we went on
to talk and he goes, I've been listening since day one,
and when you started, you didn't really like show any
part of your own personality. And then X amount of
episodes in you shared like this really impactful story you
had and it really made me feel like the layer
(04:11):
was coming off. And like after that, like I thought
about and I was like, that's so right, and I
enjoyed being able to like spend the five minutes and
tell that story and then grow the conversation from there
and like really showed that like yeah, I've been there too,
like let's be honest here. And so from that moment,
I was like, yes, I need to be doing more
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of that. We need to be leaning into that. But
also like to your point, it is one of the
things like Okay, I have all these things to get
done going out to dinner. We'll just miss tonight, We'll
do it tomorrow because I got all these things on
my plate, or you know whatever, the plethora of things
(04:53):
that could be fun to you. I remember this week.
I was like, when was this last? I like les,
and I was like once last time I build the
legou easily six months, And I was like, I need
to do this at some point over the weekend, like
spend an hour build this out, like have some joy.
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But lastly, because I know, I'm like like saying a.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Handful of things right now.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I remember when I met my boyfriend and we were
dating for a while and I was laughing more. I
was finally feeling like myself. And we had a conversation
similar to this topic, and I was like, you know,
for the longest time, I felt like I needed.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I iconic completely be myself.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I needed to show up how the person in front
of me, whether it was a professional athlete, an owner,
you know, howld that a friend how they needed or
saw me as showing up and not just showing up
completely as me, even if sometimes it's a little uncomfortable,
you know. And I was like, once I started pulling
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those layers back, I was like, people in my who
I work with love it even more because they know, like, oh,
this is how all of you thinks.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
She's gonna tell me how she thinks. You know, there's no.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Awkwardness in it. People connect with you more. Even in
personal life. It's like, oh, this is more fun. It
makes everything work.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Luck, Yeah, it does. And when we're having fun in
our lives or in our business, the stress doesn't stresses
out as much. And there's an old saying work hard,
play hard, And what I like to say is work gentle,
joy hard. So like, how do we bring that joy
into our life and in our business and really have
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that lesson the stress that happens, because we're all gonna
have stress. You know. I like to ask any humans
in the realm, right, we all have our hand up.
We're gonna have stress in our lives. That's just a
normal part of being a human. On this plan, it
when we have joy and fun, it reduces that stress
or it reduces the weight of that stress, and it
allows us to be more successful as individuals.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
So that being said, in twenty nineteen, you decided and
founded Solutions, a business that is dedicated to literally helping
people bring soul into their work. That's a bold move
in a business world like we've already said that prioritizes.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Things like hustle and profit.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
What personal experience or struggle pushed you to create a
business that was rooting in pushing the boundaries a little
bit in what we might prioritize and something that was
truly different? And how did you know entrepreneurs needed this?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Oh? I knew they needed this because I needed this.
I mean I feel like we create that what's what
we need or we even teach that which we need
to learn. Uh So, so this was I mean, I
obviously want to be helping other people and selfishly, these
are all things that I need to be learning myself
in a deeper and deeper way every day. I have
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always been very success driven, but like an old model
of what success looked like. So I was the person
that took thirty five units in a quarter and went
on to do you know, ninety hours of research and
classes in a PhD program and things like that, and
really burned myself out to the point where my health
(08:33):
struggled significantly. And I'm sure we'll end up talking about
that more, but it was a huge wake up call
to me that I could not continue to live under
that old model of success, that I had to figure
out a different way that worked for me. And what
I realized in that pursuit was that there were so
(08:54):
many other people out there like me that felt like
they really literally had to work themselves to death in
order to be successful. And I didn't want to believe
that that was true. And so through solutions, I really
look at how can business be profitable and successful and
(09:15):
the owner feel good about themselves and feel healthy in
their body and mind in the process, And what does
that look like, and to be honest with you, that
view is evolving every day as I meet new people
and get new experience.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Well, and that being said, as you're guiding entrepreneurs and
professionals who are juggling a lot of different responsibilities, responsibilities
and expectations that feel never ending. From your perspective, what
do those struggles reveal about deeper patterns of self worth
(09:52):
or healing identity and how do help yourself break through
those when you feel that coming on? But also the
entrepreneurs and individuals you work with.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You know, entrepreneurship is like the grand mirror of all
the trauma we've ever experienced in our lives. I mean,
I'd love to say it in a nicer way, but
it's true. We have to wear so many different hats
and be all aspects in our business, and it just
it brings forward all the different areas that we've experienced
(10:28):
challenge and didn't heal in that moment, and have brought
that challenge or that trauma forward, and entrepreneurship gives the
opportunity for people to heal in a deeper way if
they want to, If they want to heal in a
deeper way, or if they want to go deeper into
the challenge and in a deeper way, honestly, And I
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think some of the things that happen as we grow up,
and it's not because people are wanting to do this
or cause this, is that we feel like we're not
good enough, or we feel like we have to compare
ourselves to others, or somebody that was in an authority
figure told us that something we did was wrong or bad,
(11:11):
and so we decided that we could never do that again,
like speak loudly or share our truth or take risks
or things like that. And entrepreneurship brings all of that up,
and it really is like here, here's all the things
that you have the opportunity to heal. And most of us,
(11:33):
most people don't really want to go into that healing.
It's scary. I mean, it's it's it's really a brave
thing to do. And my hope is with solutions and
with there's a lot of other people that are that
are doing this type of work that we holistically, including yourself, Olivia,
that we can support people in being in the place
(11:55):
to be brave and say, yes, I want to heal
from these things. I want to I as a person.
I want to move into a place where I am
my authentic self and I take really good care of
myself during the process.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I love how I bring up like entrepreneurship literally pulls
back that curtain, and everything you are good at can
get amplified. But everything you've been scared, fearful, or feel
like isn't in alignment will also get amplified. And I
think it's one of those things that it gets amplified
(12:31):
in how you show up for the business you're building
and how you show up personally. Because as entrepreneurs, yes
there's work and life right and us outside of life
or outside work, outside of life, outside work.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
But.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
They tend to spill out over into each other's areas.
And so I remember one thing I used to always say, like,
and it would be a joke because partially a joke
I realized early on in the kind of individual I
am in college, like, I don't really understand sales. So
(13:14):
I like participated in a sales pitch competition and they
gave you, like a case and you had to pitch it.
And it was a regional competition that happened yearly, and
it was something like I did two years and then
the third year, they weren't offering it anymore, and like
the university wasn't offering to like send the students.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
To do this. And I sat there and I went
through it.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I didn't do great, and I was like, I still
don't understand like how to pitch or like how to sell.
So I tell people, like when I would talk to
them or these different areas like, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Not great at selling.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I don't sell like I don't and like I tell
people and even when I start my business, I'm like,
I'm not a salesperson. I'm not here to sell you.
Like it was something and I was kind of reinforcing it, right,
I was saying verbally to the person from me, Yeah,
I don't sell, not great at it. I don't try
to be like not my goal in the business. Now,
(14:19):
any entrepreneur or anybody knows, like you gotta be able
to sell to make money, I mean, you know, and
grow like there is money that gets involved, and so like,
I was very lucky to have people like our lists
in my corner who would refer and that client would
sign and then they would love their experience so much
(14:41):
they would refer resign and like all these different things.
So I would go to networking events and like, yeah,
I don't sell. They're like, how do you not sell?
I'm like, my whole client base is referral park like
referrals or and then be like wait, your whole client
base is referrals like and like yeah, and like then
the big shock for me at least, and I know
(15:04):
we've talked about this is when I went to elevate
my business. I was like, yes, we're doing awesome. We're
doing awesome. I want to take it to the next level.
Well not everyone who's referring to you at that point
where all those clients are now right for that next
growth stretch.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
In your business.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And now I'm going, oh, wait, my business is all referrals. Oh,
this can be problematic. Not because they're all referrals. Referrals
are amazing individuals like our lists who literally referral all
the time, and I continue to hear great things. They
are powerhouses and they you should have a business that
(15:45):
refers and like you keep your clients for a long time. However,
in that moment I realized I was like, shit, I
know my strength is not selling, and like having these
like sales, I get uncomfortable in these moments. I have
(16:06):
to get comfortable with being uncomfortable with this and lean
in one hundred thousand percent because it is long term
going to be the only one, the only things that
is going to help me get to where I want
to be and know I can rely on myself to
do it and I don't you know this and that,
(16:27):
and so like pulled it back to a point like
you were saying, where like you can go down and
build up that self worth because in saying I'm not
a salesperson, right, I'm beating myself down mentally on the topic.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I'm reinforcing that mindset.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I'm not healing from like different things that might have
been said and building a skill.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
But I was I.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Finally got to a point where I was like, yes,
I'm going to be the powerhouse behind this. I'm going
to get so comfortable with it. And now like I
do things and like I'm like, yeah, that didn't even
feel like a convers like a sales conversation, or someone
will sign and they're like, I know, we just had
a sales conversation, but that didn't seem like it, and
(17:13):
like a wait, yeah, because I'm so comfortable with it now,
but you have.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
To be in the mindset of doing that.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And that being said, I want to go back a
little bit to your journey and one thing you had
mentioned earlier was you have different PhDs. You actually one
thing I think is so interesting is you really started
in a different profession like myself. And I always say
(17:40):
you can pivot careers, you can pivot industries. I have
a joke that, like, I have lived five different career lives.
I mean, if you look at it, it's honestly true.
But you've kind of done the same. So when you
were in college, what did you do you think you
(18:01):
were going to be doing the rest of your life,
and what were you going to school for? And then
what was that moment we started to be like, Okay,
maybe I need to.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Do this a little bit, this needs to change.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, I thought that I was going to be a
forensic pathologist. So in my senior year of high school,
I read my very first what do you call that?
Like a true crime novel? And I got fascinated with forensics,
and I decided that that's what I was going to
(18:37):
do in college. And I wrote my own major at
the University of California, Santa Cruz in forensic science with
anthropology and medical sciences emphasis, and I loved it. I
worked as a deputy corner intern while I was in college,
and I was also an intern at a crime lab
(18:58):
for four years, and once I graduated, I became a
deputy corner. As a deputy corner, I got to do
a lot of what I thought I would ultimately be doing,
which is autopsies. So I did over five thousand autopsies
as a deputy corner in the time that I was there.
(19:20):
And I was totally fascinated with the human body and
anatomy and the science behind it, and I still am today.
I am a total nerd that loves to nerd. The
emotional challenge of dealing with death every day was not
something that I had considered with that career choice. And
(19:41):
I remember very vividly leaving work one day and I
would go to my dad's office because he lived or
his office was right around the corner from where I worked,
and I would talk to him about my day. And
I remember walking in and saying, I just don't know
how to make this fun and he said, well made
you should consider doing something else, and so That was
(20:04):
the turning point that day of realizing that as fascinating
and interesting and as much of a difference as I
could make, it still was never going to be laugh
out loud fun. And you have to realize that I
was the person coming in in pink scrubs and pigtails,
like realizing that my bright, sunshiny personality was never going
(20:26):
to be a good fit for death investigation. So I
applied to graduate schools all out of California, and I
decided to go to the University of Iowa, and I
ultimately chose neuroscience for a PhD program. I had to
leave after three and a half years because my health
declined and I was diagnosed with a rare genetic condition
(20:49):
and I was told at the time that I only
had a year to live. So I left with a
master's in neuroscience, which I really loved too. I loved
studying neuroscience, I love doing the research. And I moved
to Hawaii because my parents had retired here, and eventually
I got healthy again and accidentally started my own business
(21:11):
and jewelry design. I eventually sold that business. I worked
in corporate for a couple of years doing director of
operations work, and then I went on to start solutions
after I got my master's in business administration. So I
am working on my first doctorate of religious sciences right
(21:32):
now and I'm hopeful that I will be complete with
it by the end of the year.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Well I love that, and I want to touch upon
that in a minute. But as I know your backstory,
but even hearing it again, it made me think. And
I don't know if you've watched this television show, but
this is a new show that has one series seasoned out,
and I really hope it gets another one because I
like it because I'm a crime person. But I also
(21:59):
knew growing up with a medical issue and like having
onto needles, I don't do needles, so like doing the needles,
doing the I would have never survived. And having two
parents who work in the medical field. People look at
me and they're like wait, what, like come on now,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Like no, no, no, like it's bad, Like I can't
do it.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So I live my like medical crime, you know, being
able to help in that area through television and being.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Able to watch it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
But there's this new show called Bad Monkey, Yeah, Bad Monkey,
and it is about a cop who kind of stumbles
on this case. He's gotten in trouble, so he was like, uh,
on leave. They asked him to help. They just told
him like, hey, it wasn't a crime, and he's like, no,
(22:51):
something's off and he reaches out to a corner to
look at it, and they've become very close. I'm not
gonna be the whole story, but basically part of the
Corners trajectory and storyline is that she's struggling with the
fact that it's a lot of depth and evaluating how
(23:14):
like over time her personality has shifted, her joy has
shifted because even though she knows she's making the impact.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Is like, oh wait at what cost?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So like you watching that show a few weeks ago
and now re hearing that story, I'm like, yes, yes,
like it's but it's something too that like we all
I think go through in order to say this is
where I need to be now. And I want to
go into a little bit though, like what made you
(23:48):
decide to after starting your business and going through that
journey to not only have your business and be growing
your business and making an impact with working with individuals,
but also getting your page to get the same time.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, So why am I getting a doctor in religious science.
I love lifelong learning. I mean, I keep thinking that
at some point I'm not going to want to be
in school, But I love being in school. I love
learning new things, I love hearing different perspectives. I love
seeing the world through a different lens. And being in
(24:29):
school stretches me in that way. And so, you know,
I jokingly or maybe not so jokingly, say, as soon
as I, you know, finished ministerial school, then I'll be
in law school. We'll see what happens. I just I
don't I can't imagine not being in a learning environment.
(24:50):
And what's interesting is I teach as well. I teach
at the University of Kwaihilo, so I'm on the other
side of things as well. And I will say that
being a student make me a better teacher, Like I
learn things from being a student myself. I learned what
I like and what really works, and I learn what
I don't like, and I change my own behavior as
(25:13):
a professor myself. So I feel like the two go
hand in hand. And I just can't imagine not being
a lifelong learner.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And I think the life on learners one is like
a flex being like yeah, I can continue to learn,
and I love it because for me, like I say,
even whether it was in the classroom orund of the classroom,
I'm always looking at things and challenging and like this
and that. And I remember in between my undergrad and
(25:45):
grad and then going to teach, I was getting certifications.
And some of these certifications had nothing to do with
my job. Like if you think about between my undergrad
and grad, I was working.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
In professional sports.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And by the time I got into grad school, I
had my SHARM certification, which is HR.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I had a project management certification.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I had like one other that I'm blanking on right now,
none of them in sports because sports doesn't really have certifications,
And people were like, why are you gang these? I'm like,
because they're interesting and I might need to pull something
like a project management concept into a projects we're working
on for the team, or you know, on this clothing
(26:31):
line or this or that, like it's all this information
coming together. And then went back to school, got my
MBA in supply chain and I ended up getting certifications
in ASM, which is the Association for Supply Chain Management.
I have Green Belt certifications, I have coding certifications, like
(26:53):
I'm like literally no joke, degree certification in every business
area and people are like, how, like wind, would you
spend all this time? And like because it all works together?
And now like with what I do, like I get
to have so many different conversations with people and being
able to go, oh, like the way my mind works,
(27:15):
like this could connect this way or this or that,
but also like now, like again that sales strategy, and
like learning that I did learn that in the classroom,
and I acknowledge that was something I was not learning
in the classroom. So I took it upon myself to
be like, Okay, what can I get my hands on
(27:36):
what do I have found through research the best tools
that align with me how I learn and how I
show up that I could use And like my friends joke,
some of them will have like courses, right, consultants will
do courses and they'll be in different areas.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And like one of my friends.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Literally texted me yesterday and she goes, I just released
this will take this course and I'm like, yeah, it'll
be done tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I'll go through all of it.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I'll do it, and like I walk away and I
just learned something new and I was able to help
her because I was able to give feedback. But it's like,
I feel like, if you turn off your curiosity brain,
how much are you continuing to glorrow.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Or are you gain complacent?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah? Absolutely, and curiosity is a superpower. People don't think
about it as that, but a lot of entrepreneurs get
really stuck in fear and anxiety, frustration, anger around stuff
and business and they use that to motivate them. But
what they do when they do that is they get
(28:47):
really focused in their amygdala, which is the So if
our brain is a hand and our wrist is our
brain stem and then our fingers going over our frontal lobe,
that might right there is the amygdala. It's actually about
that size and that's the fear part of the brain.
(29:07):
And when we get really focused on our amygdala, in
our abygdala, we see things through the lems of fear,
which can really limit what we're doing in our business.
Whereas when we get curious, we're right into that frontal
lobe of our brain. And that's where really great decision
making comes from. That's where confidence comes from, that's where
(29:29):
actual positive motivation comes from, and it really changes how
people see their business when they're able to get curious.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
So how do you get curious?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Oh, well, in a lot of different ways. I'm I
listen to audio books, like that is my jam, So
I'm listening. I listen to probably close to one hundred
audiobooks a year in all different types of topics. So
that's one way. The other way is I ask myself
(30:01):
really ridiculous questions when I get into that fear space.
So if I'm in a really fearful place around my
business or in life, I'll ask myself, like, if a
monkey jumped out of the tree right now, would you
offer a banana? And like, just asking myself that ridiculous
(30:21):
question gets me into my thinking brain and gets me
out of that fearful brain. And what I know about
myself is as soon as I do that, I see
so many more options. I also love to have fascinating
conversations with people, I mean, which is obviously one of
the ways you get curious. People are stunningly interesting and
(30:42):
I could never endingly have conversations with them, especially you.
I think you're great, Well.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Thank you, I appreciate that. But it's also to your point,
I think getting out of the fear safe, like the
way it just describes that and like, this is where
fear set and this is what it looks like and
this is where curiosity SAIDs and like how that really
integrates into.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
How we show up is so powerful.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
How do you through the work you're doing with your clients,
like help them get out of that space, because I'm
assuming and correcting if I'm wrong when they start working
with you, you're doing an evaluation of all different aspects
and having the hard conversations.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, absolutely, well.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
One is I I ask them to get curious around
what tools could help them do their business better so
that they're not feeling so overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And I can't tell you how many entrepreneurs I work
with that have no idea how to edit their own website,
don't have a calendly setup, I don't have a Google
search page set up, I don't know how to use
an app on their phone to track to dos and
things like that. Is not a judgment, by the way,
It's just a fact that there are tons of tools
(32:04):
out there and most entrepreneurs are not using them to
their benefit. And so that's one of the ways that
I asked them to get curious and then instead of
setting it up for them. I teach them how to
set it up themselves so that they feel confident and
secure and comfortable and managing that aspect of their business.
And usually that tool is taking some type of workload
(32:28):
off their plate.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
And I love that because even when you were talking
about it, I was like, I don't know, Like I
have my web like my web page, and there's been
times I've needed to change things and I've gone back
to the person who helped me set it up. I'm like, hey,
I want this change, and then takes longer than I expect.
(32:50):
Sometimes I'm like, Okay, if I just knew how this worked,
like where so I didn't mess it up, then I
would have just gone I didn't do it myself because
I am in the back end, like I see it,
I have access to.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It, this and that.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
So like I'm like, yeah, I'm on those people. I
don't know how to edit my own one page, but
I find that tools like you said, calendar.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Powerhouse stool.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I remember when I started my I started my business
and podcasts in November and in May, someone was like.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Hey, can I have your calendy link. I'm like, calendar,
what's calendar?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Like this is like five months into the business, right,
Like they're like, have you not heard of calending now?
Mind you, this is like May of twenty twenty three,
so like it was newer and I was like no,
and they're.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Like, oh, you need to set one up like today.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
This will streamline your emails of like setting up meetings
this and that, and now it's like so easy if
I want a different block of time for people or
like have them decide what kind of meeting or this
or that a consulting you know, like hey, this is
just like an onboarding call versus consulting, Like just send
them the link. So easy, and like I do agree,
(34:08):
like having the right tool and understanding the tools can
save flethora of time. I recently was having conversation with
someone and I was joking.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I was like, you.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Know, going from professional sports, and I'd love to hear
your journey on this as well. For me, going from
professional sports, where the expectation is in season, you're working
seven days a week, I was commuting an hour and
a half each way, you're working ten to sixteen hour
days depending on the day.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Game all that to.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Corporate, which for me was Lakheed Martin to which was
you're working. I started at nine eighties, but the expectation
was like you're not really clocking out out of your
out your nine hours, You're really working like ten eleven.
And then we switched to four tens and it was like, yeah,
(35:05):
you're working your ten, but that expectation's really like a
thirteen hour day and you know this and that, and
so for me when I started my business, showing up
and putting in the hours and binding it out normal,
this is what you do, Like you got to at
least work the eight hours four five days a week
(35:30):
and more when you're starting your business, and as time
growing the business, growing.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
This and that, and like I'm leveraging certain tools. I remember.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
When I started thinking about like taking the business to
the next level, I talked to a few consultants and
they were telling me how they work four hours a day,
five days a week, so twenty hour days, and like what.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Drugs are you taking?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Like what that's like you're out and you're telling me
you're making how much money, Like you're there's a disconnector
you're lying to me. Like I just felt this presence
of like you're bullshitting me, and I'm not.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Taking the bullshit like, come on now.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Because I was looking at like what I was doing,
how I was doing it, what I was trying to
make an impact in And I'm like how, because like
I've gotten to a point where I was working four
days a week and then maybe touching my computer Friday
for an hour or two or a few hours and
maybe over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
But I'm like.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
How in the world, Like, yeah, I take Friday off,
but my hours are like ten to fourteen Monday through Thursday.
Like what are you talking about? And I kept getting
like I got like four people to say this to me.
They're like, yeah, I work like a twenty to thirty
hour week, and like again you're on drugs, Like you're
(36:51):
the second person, Like what is going on here? Like
you're lying to me? Stop, Like how this cannot equate?
And I remember having a conversation with my boyfriend and
this was kind of when I'd already started having those
(37:12):
conversations thinking about alevating the business. And he looked at
me one day he did seriously and he's like, what
does success look like for you long term with the business?
And like without missing a step, because I'm like little
sassy sometimes I was like it looks like being able
to work, you know, the four to six hours a
(37:33):
day Monday through Thursday, not feeling the pressure to like
answer phone calls or you know, business stuff or checking
stuff outside of those business hours and like this and that.
And he looked at me and he laughed. He goads,
you're never gonna work just four hours a day because
like part of my own personality, Like he's like, you're
not working and then going sitting on the couch and
(37:55):
he's like no.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
But if I you know, like one day.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
We have kids, like I won't be able to be
present and be joyful. As we mentioned earlier in those moments.
So when we got a dog and like.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
He's a puppy now, he uh, he had issues like
he was rescued. We rescued him. He had been.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Beaten, starved and left to die and was in a
seventy one dog courting situation, and so we did not
know what to expect personality wise, like him being in
the house. They're like I didn't know like what his
cues were, like, oh, I gotta go to the bathroom now,
Like I was so nervous. I was like every two
hours were going out to go to the bathroom. But
(38:40):
at that time, I was like okay, challenged, accepted, can
I work this like six hour day? Like let's just
get down to like this six hour day. And granted
I wasn't recording at the time episodes, but I was like,
let's see and by leveraging certain tools that I added
(39:00):
to my repertoire and like putting them in. Two weeks
went by, and I remember looking at my boyfriend because
he had been mind you, we got this dog Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Unexpectedly, we just were like called to this dog.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
We're like, yes, come on, you're coming with us. And
then Monday morning he went underway and he was gone
all way and so like I didn't see him.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
And then the next week he had to go underway again.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
So there was two weeks back to back where I
was like basically here just doing my thing. And so that,
you know, the weekend comes of that second week and
we're talking, he's like, how's working, And I'm like, I've
been working six hours for six hours. He's like you've
been doing what And I'm like, yeah, I've been leveraging
(39:50):
these tools that I just added, and I'm super amped
about them, and you know, I'm now more specific on
who I play in my calendar, and I didn't realize
the power of not allowing everyone on your calendar makes
to your schedule. And I was like, oh shit, those
(40:12):
people weren't bullshite. This is a real thing. This is
like and hitting that moment of like this can be
realistic in the business, and then being able to be
so much more joyful being present, being.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Excited to do everything, and being.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Like, yes, I can do that, Oh easily, you want
to do this, then no problem needs such a shift.
So I tell that whole story because I'd like to
hear like going off of those tools, like what was
your like, oh no, this is possible moment in your business,
and like as you help people, what do you see
(40:50):
kind of that shift happen as well?
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, mine was out of necessity. Uh So, having a
chronic illness, I have to be really really careful with
my time, and if I overschedule myself, I get sick
and I take myself out of the game for a
long time. So when I started my business, of course
I wanted to go balls to the wall and have
(41:14):
my schedule open and all these things. And I got
sick and then I did it again, and I got sick,
and I got did it again, and I got sick,
and I did it again, and I got sick. And eventually,
around like the fifth or sixth time, I finally got oh,
I can't do this anymore. I can't do this anymore.
Now does that mean that I don't still do it
(41:35):
and get sick on occasion? I still do it on occasion.
I would love to say that I'm a perfect human.
I've learned this lesson. I don't do it anymore. That's
not true. I'm not. I still do it on occasion,
but I do it a lot less often. I do
it like once a year instead of multiple times a year.
And I try to be really careful. So I set
(41:56):
my tools up like calmly and like the different things
where I'm only available on certain days and times. I
personally typically only work on Monday, Wednesday, Fridays from eight am.
Right now it's eight am because I'm teaching a college
class at eight am. Normally it would be like nine
or ten until about two or three in the afternoon.
(42:21):
There are things that pull me in on the other
days that are one offs, Like once a month, I
go over to the Hawaii Island developed care Center, and
I do a two hour workshop for caregivers on a Saturday.
So there are things that are outside of that that
I have had negotiations with myself that are meaningful to
(42:43):
me that I want to be able to do. I
think that for me, I have to ask myself, am
I being results oriented? Or am I really considering the
process of things? And that's what helps me stay in
the time windows. If I get really results oriented, I
get really focused on getting that result, and I am
(43:08):
more likely to overwork myself or break my own boundaries.
That brings up the piece of having really strong boundaries
within oneself. If I get into the process of enjoying
the process of meeting with clients, or enjoying the process
of writing a paper, or enjoying the process of going
through the emails, and let go of the results focused part,
(43:30):
then I'm more likely to hold those boundaries within myself.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
So I would be remiss without asking besides, County, what
is one or two of your favorite must have tools
in your business?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
So I have a checklist on my phone which I
call the care and Feeding of our Lists, and it
has on there physical movement eating a certain number of
grams of protein a day, taking my vitamins and things
like that, and I look at that every single day,
(44:10):
and I invite every entrepreneur out there to have a
caring of feeding of Olivia or whatever it is. That
you know the things that you need to do to
take care of yourself and that you're checking those off.
It really allows me to show up better in my
business when I'm taking really good care of myself. I
use otter a lot so O t t er. It's
(44:32):
a voice to text app. I use it to write
speeches and talks. I use it to write my classes,
I use it to write papers, I use it to
just take voice notes. Sometimes I use it to take
notes on meetings for me. So that's another big tool.
(44:53):
And then number three or I guess I said three,
but number four I'll do one more is tiny Facts,
So there's an app on my phone. I don't have
to facts that often in my business, but when I
do tiny Facts on my phone saves the day. And
I can't tell you how many business owners I work
(45:14):
with and they're like, I don't know where to facts.
I don't even know fax machines exist anymore, Like how
do I even do this thing, Tiny Facts on your
phone can be a game changer.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
Well, I just learned a new app as well that
I definitely have to down because I do know on
your phone too, Like now it's at least with the iPhones,
like you could take a picture, save it as a PDF,
and then email it as a PDF, but I don't
know the facts part. So tiny Facts is going to
be added to.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
My repertoire now as well, Carles.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
How can people get in touch with you? If they
want to connect with you?
Speaker 2 (45:51):
The easiest way to get in touch with me is
you go to my website solutions dot com. That's s
O U l l U tios dot com and to
send me a message. I'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
And I'm gonna put that in the description as well,
so you could just click it and reach out to
our list.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Thank you our list for all of your insights today.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Thank you so much for everything you do, Olivia. I
am so grateful for you in this world.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Well, that means so much to me and I really
enjoy you sharing your story and giving all those insights,
and even in this conversation like as we're talking, yeah,
we're we've shared insights and even in past conversations, but
also like you got my brain turning. I'm like, okay,
am I optimizing every tool? Am I using every tool
(46:43):
that I could be using? Like now, like after today,
I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna start checking, like where
can I add a tool? But also like I mentioned,
you've been such a great like connector referral and our
list referres one to me the other day, who I like,
we got on the phone and I was like, that
(47:03):
person signed thank you so much. But even in that
conversation with that individual, when we talk about connection and
leading from a place of joy and impact, they were like,
Arlest is amazing, like the introductions, the way of thinking that,
like all these different aspects, and I was like, yeah,
she is, and that's why she's gonna be on my podcast.
(47:24):
But I was like, I'm not surprised, and I want
to go over a few of those key takeaways from
today's conversation, which there's so many I had to limit it,
so no, not everything is covered, but work gentle and
joy hard. I love how Arlest brought this up early
(47:45):
in our conversation, and then it was really an overarching
theme of what we were talking about today is are
you showing up with joy?
Speaker 3 (47:53):
How often are you showing up with joy?
Speaker 1 (47:55):
It isn't just work hard play hard work gentle like
are you optimizing everything right?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Are?
Speaker 1 (48:02):
How are you working? And how is the joy showing up?
As well as create and teach what you need, what
you would want, what you need Like I think that's
so important is when you're talking to people. A lot
of people uralists brought this up. It comes from a
place of what they need support on, and most times
(48:24):
it was something you needed support on at one point.
And that's how you became an expert in what you're
talking about, because you needed that and you didn't get
it and you went down the rabbit hole yourself. As
well as when you get in a fierce state, ask
yourself ridiculous question. This is something I'm gonna start trying
out as well, and I challenge everyone this week to
(48:48):
at least one time when that fear state happens, to
ask yourself a ridiculous question and be able to reframe
yourself at that point. As well as what tools make
your business move the needle and move more smoothly and easier.
A new art list brought up multiple different times, different tools, calendar,
(49:11):
easy acts, you know, all these different tools, and really say,
at Otter, am I using these tools? What tools can
I be moving easier? Because our list is a pure
example of this. I am an example of this. You
do not have to work the massive long days and
(49:32):
the six five six days a week. Do have a
successful business that you're proud of, that moves the needle,
that impacts people, that is profitable. You can work the
three days artist works, you can work the four days
I work. You can work those four to six hour
days most of the time, as well as have negotiations
(49:54):
with yourself. I love that art List brought this up
because there are times that we have to check with
ourselves and say, okay is this work doing?
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Am I okay doing this? What will this give up?
Speaker 1 (50:06):
And have those negotiations. So I love that and this
was a great episode with our top notch guest Arlest
Dudley Cash. Thank you for listening and have a successful day.
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