April 28, 2026 • 56 mins
After 13 years of chronic migraines that sent her to the ER monthly, Edna Ness stumbled upon a therapy so powerful it eliminated her pain permanently in just one month. But that was only the beginning of her incredible journey. When doctors told her husband he had less than a week to live with stage four cancer, she pulled from years of alternative healing experience to guide his recovery using the same revolutionary treatments. What started as personal desperation became a mission to help others access therapies that most people have never heard of.
Edna reveals the shocking truth about why hyperbaric oxygen therapy isn't standard care after cancer treatment, despite being FDA-approved for radiation damage. She shares the exact protocols that transformed her health, how she built a thriving healing center with her son's ex-girlfriend as business partner, and why she believes this therapy could change the future of medicine. You'll learn how oxygen under pressure works like magic in your body, why pro athletes swear by these treatments, and how to access healing modalities that could transform your health journey forever.
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Edna reveals the shocking truth about why hyperbaric oxygen therapy isn't standard care after cancer treatment, despite being FDA-approved for radiation damage. She shares the exact protocols that transformed her health, how she built a thriving healing center with her son's ex-girlfriend as business partner, and why she believes this therapy could change the future of medicine. You'll learn how oxygen under pressure works like magic in your body, why pro athletes swear by these treatments, and how to access healing modalities that could transform your health journey forever.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello everyone, Welcome to Achieving Success with Olivia Akin.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm your host, Olivia Akin. Each week we will.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Discuss the roadmap of achieving your personal and professional success.
We give you real life stories on growing personally and
professionally to achieve your life and career goals with the
help of some.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Top not guests.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Today we are speaking with Edna and nest and Inness
is the co founder of a revolutionary hyperbolic oxygen and
light therapy healing.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Center and Vancouver, Washington.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And her business partner, Caitlin and Wilson, were both struggling
with chronic migraines and autoimmune flares when they began searching
for answers beyond traditional.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Treatments the treatment options.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
What started as a personal journey for healing quickly.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Evolved into something much, much bigger. After attending a light
therapy conference and.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Experiencing powerful results from hyperbaric oxygen therapy, they made a
pact if they experienced true healing, they would open a
clinic to help others do the same. Not long after
opening their clinic and the husband was diagnosed with stage.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Four throat and tongue cancer.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Through his recovery journey, many of the same therapies they
now offer in their clinic became part of his path
to healing. Today, their center operates multiple hyperbaric chambers and
advanced therapies, helping people facing.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Some of the toughest health challenges, from cancer.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Recovery to autoimmune conditions and traumatic brain injuries. Today will
dive into Enna's journey, how personal health challenges turned into
a mission driven business, and how innovative therapies are helping
people retain their health and their lives. You can find
Edna by going to her website in Light Hyperbolics. Hello,
(02:01):
and it's fantastic having you on the show.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Thank you so much for having me. This is a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I'm excited and let's start write into it because there's
so much for us to discuss. To start off the show,
can you tell me what success means and looks like
to Edna.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Ness, Well, that's definitely a two pronged question. Professionally, I
guess really I have to look at the financial part
of it, because if I don't, if I'm not successful financially,
I can't keep the doors open and.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Then I can't help people.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
But for me personally, helping people have hope and get
the healing that they need. That if I can help
one person every day, that is success for me. So
that's what brings me joy, is just helping people feel better,
(02:55):
look better, like having hope that they're not going to
suffer anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
One thing you brought up when you were talking about
success is really that line. And when I say the line,
I mean connecting the money to the passion to.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
The joy of everything. And I love how you did that.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Because so many times we'll think there's success buckets, but
really what you just emphasized as well is that it's
really that flowing of a river more than just a bucket,
and that flow connects to everything. If we're not showing
up and making money in our business, how are we
going to show up and feel personally? How are we
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going to show up and be present and help others?
And I think that's really powerful because it's so important
to identify it as well.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yes, So one thing.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
That when we talked originally, when I was prepping for
this Converse station, I realized not just that passion and
not just that joy, but you created a business around
something that not only helped you and your friend, but
also family, right, your husband and using those real results
(04:21):
and saying, Okay, how can I serve as many people
as possible? And you and your business partner, Caitlin, were
both dealing with chronic migraines and autoimmune.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Flares before starting this journey.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Can you take us back to that time and what
life looked like for a while while you were searching
for answers yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Absolutely, I think that to really do this justice, I
need to start from the very beginning so that people
understand where I came from and how I really how
I got clinical experience to do what it is that
I do today, because it is really important. So my
(05:05):
journey for finding answers for my health issues started in
the year two thousand. So I was a single mom
for many, many years of three sons, three very active sons,
and I was working two jobs to make ends meet,
and I was very broken down.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
At that time.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I was suffering not only with chronic brain issues or
chronic pressure in my head and migraines, but I also
had severe IBS and.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I knew I needed some.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Kind of different healing because the medical world wasn't really
doing it for me. I started working with a naturopathic
physician and to try and get my diet under control
and help especially with.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
My bowel issues.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
After working with her for a year, those issues basically
were gone. So she helped me change my diet work
with my food allergies. And it ended up that she
I had so much passion for what she did for
me and how she changed my life, that I begged her.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
To hire me.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So in two thousand and one, I started working for her,
and as it turns out, I would work for her
for the next fourteen years, and that's where I really
learned a lot about diet supplementation and all kinds of
different alternative care, you know, all kinds of things. She
(06:38):
helped me with my bowels, but I still had that
pressure in my head. So we would continue to try
and find different ways that I could hopefully help with
my migraines. And it wouldn't be until well in two
thousand and four, I bought my first light therapy device,
thinking that might help with my migraines. Light just really
(07:01):
spoke to me. I don't know why, it just I
was drawn to it. So I bought my first light pad,
and in the long run, it didn't help with my migraines.
But it helped a lot with the tension that I
would get from the migraines, and I would I would
continue to use it both professionally and personally, and I
(07:25):
would use it in the clinic for a lot of
different people that would do it with a lot of
different ailments. And I was blown away at what light
therapy could do for the body. And this was back
when not many people knew about light therapy for pain
and inflammation or for healing. This is also at the
same time that Caitlin's in my world would collide.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So she is thirty years.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Younger than I am, and she was eighteen at the time,
and she had had two rounds of mono before she
was eighteen, and you know, they really couldn't help her
much and she was just really suffering.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So I would guide her through.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
That journey as far as working with naturopathic remedies and
light therapy and she would end up getting her healing
from that. So for years she would help me, like
just educate people about light therapy. I was selling light
therapy because I wanted to educate people and on what
light could do for them. In two thousand and nine,
(08:30):
I went back to school and got my license to
as an esthetician. I wanted a license to touch the
body so that I could practice without just being only
under a physician, so that was awesome. I still worked
for the Natural Path, but I also set up I
put together a salon where I worked with people individually
(08:50):
and continue to educate others about light therapy and the
power of it. Caitlin and I became business partners in
twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Now, through all of this time, I.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Was still continuing to have the pressure in my head
and I would have migraines at least four days out
of the week, so always had that threat of a
migraine every day, which is not very much fun. And
you know I was on medication, but you know they
(09:25):
would only give me nine pills a month. Well, when
you're having that many migraines, that doesn't really help you
because once you've taken those nine then it was a
matter of every time my husband would have to take
me to the er so to get a shot of
tourt all and you know, calm everything down.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
So it was really.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Difficult to still be working, still supporting my children and
suffering as much as I did. So I needed in
actually twenty thirteen was when I first found out about
about hyperbarics. So that was before Caitlin and I went
to can Kun or that light therapy conference. But at
(10:09):
this particular conference, they had a hyperbaric chamber there and
I asked them if I could do an hour of
hyperbarics in the chamber when I was there, and I did,
And after that first treatment of hyperbarics, I had a
month without a migraine, which was huge for me. So
(10:33):
I made that someday hyperbarics would be in my future.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
One thing you.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Mentioned in that story too, and there's so many impactful parts. Boy,
I got to bring this up as well, is what
is it like finding a business partner where you have
this common ground but there's similar but different life experiences
and different points your life journey as well, not only
(11:02):
bringing different perspectives to the table, but really you're into
different spaces. And so what has that been like in
what have you learned from her and what has she
learned from you and continuing your entrepreneurial journey.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Oh my gosh, it has been like a matchmate in
heaven really, as far as.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I'm so grateful for her.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Youth and you know, her being, you know, having the
knowledge of social media and her being able to reach
or speak to the younger crowd if that's needed, and
then having me thirty years older than her, having a
(11:49):
little bit more wisdom. I had a lot of clinical experience,
which is really important when you're.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Doing a business like this.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And I think that what has made our partnership so
beautiful is so she was She dated my youngest son
for thirteen years, so we already knew each other and
had a lot of respect and love, and they would
eventually break up, and I just felt like she is
(12:20):
the one person who understood what I was doing, had
so much passion just like I did for the therapies
that we used to help ourselves, but not only that,
also really wanted to help others through from our experiences.
And so having a business partner that you already you
(12:41):
have love and respect for, we've never gone sideways. We've
been in business now for twelve years and never I mean,
you know, the respect is so big that we were
able to talk through everything.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And really support each other. So it's it's.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Really an amazing thing because I know how hard business
partners are.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean, it's hard to.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Have I was gonna say, it's a difficult things sometimes
to have business partners.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I don't, but it's also really important.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I've seen it. It's also really important to have the
right people around you and the right sounding board. And
I want to dive into that, but I got to
ask because I know problem so many people are thinking
it right now is you never had a hiccup and
you saw her as this, But how did your sign
feel going like, Okay, now she's really going to be
(13:33):
a part of our life for like ever, because now
she's going into business with my mom. There's no kind
of like navigating this around this? How how how is
that conversation?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
So, yeah, that's that's a good one.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I'm glad you brought that up, because it is it's
everybody always wonders that.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
But you know, when when we made.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
That decision, they were still together at the time, but
when we kind of knew that it was going to
be rocky, I mean as far as that they were
not going to end up together in the long run.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I sat both of them down and.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I told them that, you guys are going to have
to deal with each other the rest of my life.
But it is the right match and I think my
son he knew he knows how passionate I am, and
he knew how passionate Caitlin was because he watched her
go through her journey because they were friends clear from
(14:36):
elementary school and then started dating per se in junior
high and then all through high school and.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Then thirteen years. Thirteen years is a long time.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
So he watched her and he knew her passion as well,
so he understood that what I was doing was probably
the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And they just know that.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
I mean, they don't live in the same town anymore,
which is helpful, but and he's married and has children now,
so you know, they don't have to face each other much.
But it's it was a matter of it, just like everything,
having a conversation, you know. I think it's really important
to just have that honest conversation and this is why
(15:23):
we're doing what we're doing, and talk it through.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And as you were saying that, in back of my
head mind, I is like so logical and so like
mom to also be.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Like, listen, this is the reality of things too. Right.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
There's whether it's like mom two kids or like mom
of a friend group.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Let's be honest there's all times where someone's got to
step in and be like, this is the reality. We
gotta figure it out, you know, how are we gonna
deal with this?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
But also as you were talking about that, I was like,
there's probably so many families, whether they have the commerce
or not, in a family business where you know, people
might get divorced, 're and it's a family business, you're
all still working together and so and I think that
(16:13):
was a great example of how to handle those moments
of two people separating. But you're building something and or
have built something, and it's not like the parties are
just gonna disappear and clean the hands, even if you
wish that could potentially have.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, and that being said as well, how one thing
you brought up is having love and respect for your
business partner.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
How have you handled as you've continued to grow.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
In different aspects maybe and like, I'm asking this question
because I'm curious, so it has goals changed, and partially
to you know, as each of us in individually grow,
our goals can change personally and professionally. How have you
(17:09):
considered continue to make sure you're on the same page
with goals, but also you're on the same page with
how you show up and serve clients.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Oh wow, you know it's been so natural.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
So I mean because I feel like both of us
it's so deep in our hearts and our soul to
help others that it hasn't changed. And you know, I
think also because we are so good at communicating with
each other and sitting down, spending the time and talking
(17:46):
about you know, what is the next stage of our
business we're looking at, you know, adding this device, what
does that mean for the business.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Is it going to change our vision?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
You know? Just talking through each step as it comes along.
I think that's the most important thing, is just really
the communication about it all, you know. And I want
to just mention one other thing because it's about it
as far as the business part of it and making
sure that things don't you know, that you have things
(18:18):
lined up. It was really important to me to make
sure that the law that we have that long. I mean,
obviously you have an operating agreement and its stick to that,
but also to make sure that the long like I'm seventy,
so we don't live forever.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And I wanted to make.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Sure that everyone was honored through my legacy, I guess
and so we have everything in line, so everybody knows
what's going to happen when I pass, and there's no
doubt as far as you know how my family gets
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their part of my legacy, but it's really her job
to carry my legacy forward.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And I want to talk about that, because whether it's
old age or just something happens and comes up in
life that day comes in owning a business or not
owning a business. Right, having a planning place is important.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
So how did you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Like having that as a goal and that really important
to you, of not just having the legacy, but also
being very clear on all the steps. What was that
conversation like, because, for example, I asked that because I
remember when my grandmother was the last to pass away,
(19:53):
and her death did comes suddenly, but about two years
I would say, before she passed away, my nana passed away.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So ironically, the two.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Last living grandparents I had were both women, the women
on either side, And when my nana passed away, it
was also kind of unexpected.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It was over a few months, but it was.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Unexpected overall, and she like had her will and everything
in place.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
But I remember.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The next time we went to visit my grandma. My
grandma took us, me and my sisters to side.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And my mom and dad and like.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
We were just having a normal dame and like I
remember being in her house and just hanging out. And
then she looks at us, she goes, girls come here
and my Italian grandmother way, and we're like okay, and
she walks into her bedroom and she turns around and looks.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
At us and she goes, I want you to have
a piece of me, and I want you to have
a piece of my jewelry.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Each of you right now, pick out at least one
thing so I can get guarantee you.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Get at least one thing you want.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And I looked at her and I was like, we're
not talking about this right now.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
You're not dying like stot.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Like I'm getting emotionally even telling it, because I'm just
like women, you're very healthy, your your grandma, Like I'm like,
stop talking about like.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You're gonna go tomorrow and like it's gonna be over
and you.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Want us to have these pieces. But it was very
important to her, But it came with me being like
can we stop, Like what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Stop it? But when the day did calm.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
We had she which we didn't know like her way,
She'd put each item in a box and in a side,
and each fox had our names on them, and I
was like okay, wow, and then everything else.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know, got different ways.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But yeah, sometimes we all react differently to when those
conversations come up. And you even talking right now, I'm thinking,
I'm like, I'm thirty one, but maybe i should have
a plan, like, okay, my business because i'm sol an entrepreneur.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Like what happens to people, especially if.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You're not an entrepreneur, do you know one needs to
be covered well?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
And you don't know when your last day is, you know,
And it's it's so interesting because when you said that,
you know, after what your grandma said, that's how Caitlin
would always respond.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
It's like, whenever I want I brought it up. It's
like stop, let's not talk about this.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
This is not happening, and it's like, no, it's not
happening today, but it is inevitable and we never know
when our last day on earth is, so we're always
better off to have a plan. And no matter how
young you are, you should have a plan. I highly
recommend it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Well, now you've got to me thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Maybe I should call my business attorney after this and
have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
And so as far as like those conversations, I mean
that you know they're they're not easy because you're talking
about something that you really don't want to have happen.
And however, with both my with Caitlin and my three sons,
they all have so much respect for me and the
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work that I do, and they know the passion that
I have for it and how important it is that
it continue after I'm gone.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I think the fact that all of.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Them, everybody has so much respect and love for each other.
Even though Caitlin and my son are aren't together anymore,
they still have that respect. And so those conversations we
have they were not hard.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
For me, a little hard for them because yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Don't really want to talk about that issue, but you
also don't want to have things turn upside down when
it does happen, So better to be I think it
really does like calm everyone's nerves internally to know that
there is a plan in place. So it's very very important,
(24:25):
and I have to say that it was. I just
want to share this little tidbit in twenty twenty one,
I nearly died of COVID and I was in the
ICU for two weeks and it was really touch and
go for two weeks whether or not I was coming
out of there. And at that time, my oldest son
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was my power of attorney medically. And what I realized
through that experience because he does don't really understand everything
that I believe in and how I would want to
be treated.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Even though he knows my business, and he.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Doesn't really have the knowledge that I have and that
Caitlyn has. And so it was Caitlin that was directing
him through that whole thing. What do you need to
be telling the doctors? What questions you need me to
be asking? And going through that experience because obviously I lived,
(25:29):
I think goodness, my work wasn't done. But what it
made me realize was that I had the wrong person
as my power of attorney for my medical issues. So
that's something that I changed in my will and so.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And they have respect for that.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
And it's also like sometimes.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You go through moments and you're like, like you said,
you realize who the right person is. So sometimes the
person who was the wrong person, whether it's in job
or like a responsibilities like.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
That was like why am I in charge of this?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Like this person is a better fit, and even talking
about this right now as we've been talking about this
specific topic, and I was like, you know, my boyfriend
who's in the military, when you go through boot camp
before you go to your first station, you have to
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write out your will.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You have to have all that in place.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
So I remember, and I totally forgot this until we
were talking. We were actually in.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Juno where.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
We are stationed, and I for we think it was
we just went to the Shine of shank Terrees, which
is here in Juna by yourselves, and we saw this
along the path like towards the end they of like
the cemetery blocks like stone things, and it's very pretty.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
And we went and like paid our respects to those people.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
And that was like our second third time there and
we hadn't walked that far, so we didn't even know
that you could be buried there. And we turned around
and he mentioned something, He's like, oh, when I died,
this is I already have this planet.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
This is the plant And I was like.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Okay, sure, okay, and it like didn't It was so Notchalot,
because he had been in for so long that it
was just like, okay, whether it happens during this time
or down the line, like this was a conversation I
had to like I did think through this at eighteen
years old, so I and like sit with it, and
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so I was like, okay, sure, And it was just
with such confidence at ease.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
That makes you more confident in ease.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So the other thing I realized is, and you expressed
it today, is like when you are confident and it
is a priority and you're secure in the decision, it
makes it everyone else kind of be like, okay, you know,
more comfortable with its will.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But let's move on from that because there's so much
more to discuss.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I want to talk about the and I see it
behind you as we're recording right now, your book Radical Recovery.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
What made you decide to write a book.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I felt it was really important for really to continue
to educate people about things that I had learned and
how we as humans can get better healing, faster healing
by using different modalities over I mean, I working when
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I worked for the Nature Path, I learned so much
about you know, supplementation and all kinds of different therapies.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
But what I realized through that is that my heart always.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Went to what modalities can be used to help encourage
the natural healing abilities in our body. So we're giving
our body extra energy in different ways. Light therapy is
through photons, Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is hyperoxygenating the body. There's
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a lot of different you know, I mean using castor
oil to help pull out toxins, I mean all those
different things. And I felt it was really important to
share the knowledge that I had gained over the years
because when I my husband went through what he went through,
I needed to pull out of all of those years
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of experience to help him to survive what he was
going through. And I felt it really important to pass
that on for other people because it was a big,
big challenge what he was facing. And so it was
just my way of, you know, putting it out to
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other people, not you know, other people can find it
without even knowing me and maybe get something out of
it to help someone else with their journey through it.
And it was also very cathartic because what we went
through was very, very intense.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
And I'm curious about two. Once you started writing what
was your process, like, did you sit down and all
of a sudden everything flowed out or were there moments
where you like, I'm running this business and I got
this going on, and now this is sitting on the
top of my head because a lot of people right
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now as well, are like, how can I help as
many people as possible?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And you mentioned that.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
A subconscious way as you were answering the question of
you know, going back to legacy, going back to helping
as many people as possible, and that reads. But once
you get started with something right, especially when you're a
busy individual, sometimes things can fall off the plate and
you never finish them. So for you, what was that
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like and how did you make sure you finished that
book and it got out there.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
That's a really really good question, by the way, because
so many people start something and they just never finish
it because they keep changing it and not never finishing it,
so it never gets into the hands of the people
that need it.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
So I worked with a coach and her her deal
was ninety days to done.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
So you were encouraged to write your book in ninety
days and whatever it is at ninety days, that's your
book and you get it published. So I was under
pressure from myself to get that done, and so did
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I take I took time to. Yes, sometimes it was
sitting in my office and just you know, going through
typing out the story, just making sure, you know, I
was just day by day and I did a lot
of it through.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So when my husband was going through his cancer.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Diagnosis and treatment and everything we went through, I kept
a daily log so of all of his medications, all
took notes on everything that was going on with him,
bowel movements, blood pressure or all of everything. So each
page had a day, I mean, or each day had
a page, and so I had his whole story in
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this notebook of everything we had been through. So I
really kind of went off of that a lot, but
I also had it ingrained in my mind because it
was intense what we went through. I mean, when we
got to Seattle for a third opinion, they told us
he only had he had less than a week to live.
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So it was touch and go for quite a while
for a couple months of whether or not he was
going to live through this. And so as I was writing,
I mean, there were times when I would burst into
tears and have to run out of the room and
away from my computer and breathe because it brought up
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such emotion from what we had just gone through. And
how I had the strength to do it all, you know,
how how did I gather the strength because I I
had to be his everything and so it was very
cathartic and I and then there are also times when
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I did a lot of my writing inside of a
hyperbaric chamber, which felt like a safe place too.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Well, And I want to dive into that aspect right
because like a lot of people while we're sitting here
are probably like, okay, trying to imagine what a hyperbolic
chamber is like.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
So I had another question in mind, but first I
want to touch upon that.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
And then we're going to go Okay, First, I always
make sure you say it right, because hyperbolic is way
different than hyperbaric.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Oh well, see I'm learning something.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Right now, and you're not alone.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
A lot of people do that, so it's okay.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
So tell me what that is like. And yeah, all
this stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
And why we use it or I mean, because it
kind have popped all over the face here and so
so hyperbaric oxygen therapy is breathing oxygen at a pressure,
a greater pressure to get a change in the body.
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So how it works is we typically rely on red
blood cells to get oxygen to our tissue. But when
we have any kind of inflammation or damage in the body,
we get restriction in the blood vessels and we're not
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going to be able to get those red blood cells
through to get to the tissue. On the other side,
that's when we start having symptoms. So it can be
symptoms like pain, it can be disease like cancer. It
can be migraines, headaches, brain tramp I mean, memory loss, fatigue,
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any kind of symptom. You can pretty much bet that
there is an area of your body that is not
getting the oxygen that it needs, and those cells are
sending a message to us saying, help me, help me,
I need oxygen. So oxygen is our most important primal nutrient.
It's the one thing we can't live without for minutes,
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and it's the first thing we need when we need healing.
We need oxygen to get to the tissue. So those
the symptoms that are being sent to us from our
cells is really saying give me oxygen, and so our
fluids can flow to all parts of our body. But
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it doesn't carry oxygen, so it can't really help. So
when you're in a hyperbaric chamber, we now can dissolve
the oxygen into the fluids of the body.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And that's called Henry's law.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
And Henry's law says when we put a gas under pressure,
we can now dissolve it into fluids. So the simplest
way for someone to have a visual of this is
you know those little soda stream things that make carbonated water,
So that's an example of Henry's law. So that's putting
oxygen under pressure and you're making bubbly water. So when
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you get in a hyperbaric chamber, it's like a soda
stream for the body. It literally is dissolving that oxygen
you're breathing into the fluids of the body. So now
we can hyperoxygenate the body with the fluid now carrying oxygen. Way,
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we can start reducing inflammation and start reducing symptoms.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
As simple as that.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
So the next question you're saying it's as simple as that,
is who should be looking at this?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Like should everyone be using it even if you're healthy?
Should everyone kind of make it part of like at
least a yearly routine. And do it or is it
really for if you're having certain symptoms.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
So, in my opinion and from what I've gone through,
I think everyone should have the experience so you know
that it is an option for you when you need
it personally.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
That's how I feel.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
I feel like every household should have a hyperbaria chamber
in it because we would all be a little healthier. So,
I mean, obviously I use it for anti aging. Now,
I mean what does that mean. It means I'm keeping
in internally my body younger by getting in a hyperbaric
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chamber because I'm making sure that I'm reducing inflammation on
a regular basis. Is it that I get in every
every day? No, I don't get in every day. Sometimes
I go through times when I'm in there every every morning.
But people that really should I mean so yes, as
far as across the board, I think everyone should try
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it just so you know what the therapy is and
be familiar with it. But the people that really can
benefit our you know, we as far as in our
facility here, anybody that has any kind of brain brain problems,
whether it be traumatic brain injury, post traumatic stress syndrome,
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even dementia, getting more oxygen to the brain is game changer.
So reducing the inflammation in the brain and getting more
or oxygen slash blood flow can do wonders any kind
of cancer recovery, because if someone's going through chemon radiation
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or surgery, you need recovery. Chemon Radiation destroy our blood vessels.
I mean, it is really hard on our bodies. We
come out of treatment with a lot of damage and
we don't have much of an immune system to help
ourselves to heal. And if we can give our body
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some extra nutrients such as oxygen and light, you can
really speed up the recovery after your treatment. I feel
like anybody who goes through radiation therapy should absolutely hands
down and go through hyperbaric treatment. One of the so
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in the hyperbaric world, one of there's diagnoses that are
FDA approved, so those are the only conditions that are
covered by insurance. One of those is post radiation damage.
The thing that I am not happy with, and it
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frustrates me, is that they won't give you hyperbaric they
won't refer you to hyperbaric oxygen therapy after radiation. They
will wait for you to start falling apart because the
radiation has damaged your tissue to the point where it
doesn't have circulation that it needs. I feel like it
should be standard of care after radiation treatment personally, just
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from what I saw happen with my husband and what
I see has you know, happen with other people that
I've seen here at the clinic. I don't know if
I got off track there, but.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
No, it made me think of something.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Now I'm like, I have more and more questions here
about this. So one thing you mentioned early on in
your answer, You're like, you should do it, you know,
at home, and it's as easy as that. So you
have your treatment facility in Vancouver, Washington.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
And I'm going to go out on a limb.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Okay, And this could be I could be proven wrong,
but like I'm going to go off on the limb
and say, in Juno, Alaska, for example, there isn't a
facility that offers that. Is this something for people who
don't have a facility near them that they can do
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at home, or is this something where's you really do
need that facility?
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Well, for one, you might be surprised if you look
for a facility, so you might not know there's not
a lot of us around. It is a pretty small industry,
but it is growing by leaps and bounds. We do
sell hyperbaric chambers. We also rent them straight from the company,
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and we can set up a chamber. We can help
anyone set up a chamber in their home, so it
would be a mild mostly usually it would be a
mild chamber. We'd also set up hardshell chambers that go
to a higher pressure, but mild hyperbaric chambers go to
a very low pressure, which is usually around ten feet
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underwater pressure.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
And even though it's so mild, you can still get
so much benefit.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
I mean, for five years of our business, all we
had was mild hyperbarics. Many people will tell you that's
not hyperbarics, but.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
It is.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Any time you are going under pressure, you will start
as soon as the pressure changes, that is around your body,
you are going to start having gene expression change. And
for me, I got my healing from my migraines and
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my nerve damage that I had taken on from a
two hundred and twenty volt shock.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I got all of my healing in a mild.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Hyperbaric chamber without extra oxygen. So all I had was
this chamber that I was getting in and doing treatment
twice a day for at least an hour twice a day,
and within a month, my migraines were gone and my
nerve damage was well on its way from disappearing. And
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that was back when we said when we bought the chamber,
and we said, if we open, if we get our healing,
if I get my healing, we'll open a healing center.
If I don't get my healing, we'll sell the chamber. Well,
that's how we ended up having a healing center is
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because I did get my hea from that mild pressure.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
So nobody can tell.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Me that that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Help you, because it was a game changer for me.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
And for twelve years, I have never had another migraine.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
So it was permanent change for me.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
And I'm sure that it was because I had brain
trauma from flying over my handlebars and landing on my
face or falling out of trees, and you know, I mean,
I can tell you many times when I'm sure that
I had concussions and as over the years, if you
have that inflammation in your brain, you will continue to
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get worse. And I did continue to get worse, and
so it was a game changer for my life, and
I think it can for other people as well.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
And it is there, like you mentioned earlier, it through
different stories like that one you did twice a day
at home earlier you mentioned a.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Different amount of times. So is there.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Should you let me put this way? Do you consult
someone like yourself to create the plan, say this is
how long you should go in things like that?
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yes, definitely.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
I mean you always want to work with somebody that
has some knowledge behind their belt. You know, at the
time when I did that, I was working under a physician.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
They wrote me a prescription.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
I mean, we have to have a prescription on file
for anyone that we put in a hyperbaric chamber or
for somebody for home use. So we set up a
lot of chambers in people's homes because they need them
in their homes because they're not close enough to a
facility to get the treatment that they need and they're
that sick. So but we have to have a prescription
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on file. So it is good to chat with somebody,
you know, to work with somebody that knows what they're
doing and that can help you get the prescription you
need and have the physicians backing and knowledge so we
have a medical director here, so it's not just just
my experience and what I do, but we have we
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do have a medical director, and I think it's very
important because you want, you need that guidance.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
It is a it's a medical treatment.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
I mean it's been being used for three over three
hundred years medically, hyperbarics has been so there's there's a
long you know, a lot of years that we can
rely on for data.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Well, and it's in.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
All that you're saying as well, in my head, I'm going, Okay,
they should also be talked more about in the military.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Because absolutely, totally.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yes, there's a lot of PTSC.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
There's a lot of you know, injuries that occur, there's
a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I'm just like going in my head.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
I'm like, oh this wait for sure, And you know,
the thing is and there's more and more studies coming
out the doctors that we work with that we you know,
we rely on when we have we go to conference
every year, uh you know that do our talks. They're
all doing, you know, amazing research studies proving that these
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lower pressures are a lot of times that's what we need,
and especially when it comes to PTSD and brain trauma,
those lower pressures. It can change somebody's world very quickly.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, so all military people out there, they need it. Yes,
ask the question I know about tried care, So see
where closest to you. But and it very much sounds
like from what you said earlier, it should be something
that should be a part of all of our discussions, even.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
As a not reactive, proactive proactive. I think it's free.
I was like, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Proactive, I think it's It's really part of the future
of our medicine, you know. I mean you look at
pro athletes and how they're using it, and you know,
you wonder these athletes are playing longer at a at
an older age, and how are they doing that?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Why are they doing that?
Speaker 4 (49:28):
It's because of all the biohacking that's happening, and hyperbariates
is one of those big tools that they use.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
So, and one thing I want to cover as well
is everyone's health journey is different. So how do you
approach creating a personalized treatment plan for people who come
to your clinic, whether it's a proactive or reactive situation.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
So the first thing that I feel is so important
just sitting and listening to their story because you really
want to understand what they've been through, how are they feeling,
whether they're they're symptoms, what have they tried, what has worked,
what hasn't worked, you know, and just really standing with
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them in their story. And from there then we can
talk about what therapies because we do have a lot
of different therapies here that are all natural to give
us give our bodies different energies to get the healing
that we need. And so then we can guide them
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on what we would recommend for them, you know, what
could be beneficial, and you know that might include you know,
I'm not going to be able to get to the
clinic to do treatment, so then we can see what
can we do, how can we help you at home?
And so really it's a matter of listening to people,
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what they've been through, where they're at at the time,
and giving some giving them some hope. So that's one
of the.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Things that I love about what we have built here.
We went from fifteen hundred.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Square feet when we first started one chamber and the
few life paths to a forty five hundred square feet facility.
And what I love is when people come in and
they have been suffering terribly and they say, We've tried,
I've tried everything, and nobody has any answers for me.
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And we're able to introduce them to several different therapies
that could be beneficial for them that they've never heard of.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
And that's a really.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Good feeling to give people hope that there may be
something else that they've never heard of that they can
try and it might help.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Them get it out of their suffering. I love that.
That would be really good to me.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
That's success.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
There you go love it and and it's a great
way to wrap up. We start with the word success.
We're gonna end with day and now, how can people
get in touch with you if they wan't connect with you?
Speaker 3 (52:21):
So you can reach it?
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Reach me off of our website, which is in Light
Hyperbarics dot com. You can look up in Light Hyperbarics
and get the phone number and give us a call.
I do consults with people all the time, whether you
are able to come into the clinic or we do
it via zoom like this.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
We can.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
We can connect in many different ways, but probably the
website is the best way to reach me. You can
also follow us on Instagram, Facebook, So well, thank.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
You and not for all of your insight today.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
Thank you for having me. This has been fun. It
went in a totally different direction than.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
I thought it was gonna. Well, that's I like to
surprise us like that.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
We have some powerful conversation and it could go in
an unpredicted.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Path, just like the healing you hope so many people do.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
Absolutely and a few of.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Our key takeaways from today's conversation include, have love and
respect for your business partners and for people in your life.
I really think that shine through in so much that
Enna talked about is having respect for the people and
open communication with the people you work with, loved ones,
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for clients, and having that level of respect pay dividends
a long run, but also help you show up with
that joy that Enna talked about and that passion every
single day, as.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Well as spend the next time, spend.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
More time that the next time, spend more time walking
through all aspects. When it ended, talked about how she
approached is figuring out a health plan with a client,
When she talked about figuring out long term plans for
the business, for making business decisions, for making life decisions.
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She talked about walking through all the different steps and
aspects and why it's beneficial and what's the right decision.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
That's really important.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
So next time you're going through a challenging moment, whether
it's in healthcare and health treatment, or it's in business,
or it's about planning long term life, take a step back,
sit down and write through all the different aspects as
well as do you have a plan for something happens.
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I mean, Edda made me think, I'm like, I've really
got a call start thinking about that. And one thing
I love that I think was expressed when Enna was
talking about her book and the joy and.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
The legacy and the also.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Therapy that was for her is she sat down and
she did it in ninety days and done and that
concept and I think so many of us can implement
that into not just books.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
That you've thought about writing and.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Being like, Okay, I have ninety days to get this done,
or it could be in business, right, you want to
launch that podcast, I have ninety days to do this.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Move the needle and set that.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Goalpost for yourself and don't allow it to move, because
when we continuously allow it to move, it never gets done.
So that is the one challenge I want to leave
everyone with as well as give yourself the ninety days
and be done.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
Role end to talk about.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
And really the last thing I want to leave everyone
with is the importance of understanding our body and understanding
what additional things we can all be using to help us,
like the hyperpheric oxygen chambers and light therapy and no,
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and ask yourself, can that be used in my life?
Is this something I can be using? Whether you're near Vancouver,
Washington or not. This was a great episode with our
top notch guest at Ninette.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Thank you for listening and having successful winner
Hello everyone, Welcome to Achieving Success with Olivia Akin.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm your host, Olivia Akin. Each week we will.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Discuss the roadmap of achieving your personal and professional success.
We give you real life stories on growing personally and
professionally to achieve your life and career goals with the
help of some.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Top not guests.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Today we are speaking with Edna and nest and Inness
is the co founder of a revolutionary hyperbolic oxygen and
light therapy healing.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Center and Vancouver, Washington.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And her business partner, Caitlin and Wilson, were both struggling
with chronic migraines and autoimmune flares when they began searching
for answers beyond traditional.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Treatments the treatment options.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
What started as a personal journey for healing quickly.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Evolved into something much, much bigger. After attending a light
therapy conference and.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Experiencing powerful results from hyperbaric oxygen therapy, they made a
pact if they experienced true healing, they would open a
clinic to help others do the same. Not long after
opening their clinic and the husband was diagnosed with stage.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Four throat and tongue cancer.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Through his recovery journey, many of the same therapies they
now offer in their clinic became part of his path
to healing. Today, their center operates multiple hyperbaric chambers and
advanced therapies, helping people facing.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Some of the toughest health challenges, from cancer.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Recovery to autoimmune conditions and traumatic brain injuries. Today will
dive into Enna's journey, how personal health challenges turned into
a mission driven business, and how innovative therapies are helping
people retain their health and their lives. You can find
Edna by going to her website in Light Hyperbolics. Hello,
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and it's fantastic having you on the show.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Thank you so much for having me. This is a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I'm excited and let's start write into it because there's
so much for us to discuss. To start off the show,
can you tell me what success means and looks like
to Edna.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Ness, Well, that's definitely a two pronged question. Professionally, I
guess really I have to look at the financial part
of it, because if I don't, if I'm not successful financially,
I can't keep the doors open and.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Then I can't help people.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
But for me personally, helping people have hope and get
the healing that they need. That if I can help
one person every day, that is success for me. So
that's what brings me joy, is just helping people feel better,
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look better, like having hope that they're not going to
suffer anymore.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
One thing you brought up when you were talking about
success is really that line. And when I say the line,
I mean connecting the money to the passion to.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
The joy of everything. And I love how you did that.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Because so many times we'll think there's success buckets, but
really what you just emphasized as well is that it's
really that flowing of a river more than just a bucket,
and that flow connects to everything. If we're not showing
up and making money in our business, how are we
going to show up and feel personally? How are we
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going to show up and be present and help others?
And I think that's really powerful because it's so important
to identify it as well.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yes, So one thing.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
That when we talked originally, when I was prepping for
this Converse station, I realized not just that passion and
not just that joy, but you created a business around
something that not only helped you and your friend, but
also family, right, your husband and using those real results
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and saying, Okay, how can I serve as many people
as possible? And you and your business partner, Caitlin, were
both dealing with chronic migraines and autoimmune.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Flares before starting this journey.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Can you take us back to that time and what
life looked like for a while while you were searching
for answers yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Absolutely, I think that to really do this justice, I
need to start from the very beginning so that people
understand where I came from and how I really how
I got clinical experience to do what it is that
I do today, because it is really important. So my
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journey for finding answers for my health issues started in
the year two thousand. So I was a single mom
for many, many years of three sons, three very active sons,
and I was working two jobs to make ends meet,
and I was very broken down.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
At that time.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I was suffering not only with chronic brain issues or
chronic pressure in my head and migraines, but I also
had severe IBS and.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I knew I needed some.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Kind of different healing because the medical world wasn't really
doing it for me. I started working with a naturopathic
physician and to try and get my diet under control
and help especially with.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
My bowel issues.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
After working with her for a year, those issues basically
were gone. So she helped me change my diet work
with my food allergies. And it ended up that she
I had so much passion for what she did for
me and how she changed my life, that I begged her.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
To hire me.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So in two thousand and one, I started working for her,
and as it turns out, I would work for her
for the next fourteen years, and that's where I really
learned a lot about diet supplementation and all kinds of
different alternative care, you know, all kinds of things. She
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helped me with my bowels, but I still had that
pressure in my head. So we would continue to try
and find different ways that I could hopefully help with
my migraines. And it wouldn't be until well in two
thousand and four, I bought my first light therapy device,
thinking that might help with my migraines. Light just really
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spoke to me. I don't know why, it just I
was drawn to it. So I bought my first light pad,
and in the long run, it didn't help with my migraines.
But it helped a lot with the tension that I
would get from the migraines, and I would I would
continue to use it both professionally and personally, and I
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would use it in the clinic for a lot of
different people that would do it with a lot of
different ailments. And I was blown away at what light
therapy could do for the body. And this was back
when not many people knew about light therapy for pain
and inflammation or for healing. This is also at the
same time that Caitlin's in my world would collide.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So she is thirty years.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Younger than I am, and she was eighteen at the time,
and she had had two rounds of mono before she
was eighteen, and you know, they really couldn't help her
much and she was just really suffering.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
So I would guide her through.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
That journey as far as working with naturopathic remedies and
light therapy and she would end up getting her healing
from that. So for years she would help me, like
just educate people about light therapy. I was selling light
therapy because I wanted to educate people and on what
light could do for them. In two thousand and nine,
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I went back to school and got my license to
as an esthetician. I wanted a license to touch the
body so that I could practice without just being only
under a physician, so that was awesome. I still worked
for the Natural Path, but I also set up I
put together a salon where I worked with people individually
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and continue to educate others about light therapy and the
power of it. Caitlin and I became business partners in
twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Now, through all of this time, I.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Was still continuing to have the pressure in my head
and I would have migraines at least four days out
of the week, so always had that threat of a
migraine every day, which is not very much fun. And
you know I was on medication, but you know they
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would only give me nine pills a month. Well, when
you're having that many migraines, that doesn't really help you
because once you've taken those nine then it was a
matter of every time my husband would have to take
me to the er so to get a shot of
tourt all and you know, calm everything down.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
So it was really.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Difficult to still be working, still supporting my children and
suffering as much as I did. So I needed in
actually twenty thirteen was when I first found out about
about hyperbarics. So that was before Caitlin and I went
to can Kun or that light therapy conference. But at
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this particular conference, they had a hyperbaric chamber there and
I asked them if I could do an hour of
hyperbarics in the chamber when I was there, and I did,
And after that first treatment of hyperbarics, I had a
month without a migraine, which was huge for me. So
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I made that someday hyperbarics would be in my future.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
One thing you.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Mentioned in that story too, and there's so many impactful parts. Boy,
I got to bring this up as well, is what
is it like finding a business partner where you have
this common ground but there's similar but different life experiences
and different points your life journey as well, not only
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bringing different perspectives to the table, but really you're into
different spaces. And so what has that been like in
what have you learned from her and what has she
learned from you and continuing your entrepreneurial journey.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Oh my gosh, it has been like a matchmate in
heaven really, as far as.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I'm so grateful for her.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Youth and you know, her being, you know, having the
knowledge of social media and her being able to reach
or speak to the younger crowd if that's needed, and
then having me thirty years older than her, having a
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little bit more wisdom. I had a lot of clinical experience,
which is really important when you're.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Doing a business like this.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And I think that what has made our partnership so
beautiful is so she was She dated my youngest son
for thirteen years, so we already knew each other and
had a lot of respect and love, and they would
eventually break up, and I just felt like she is
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the one person who understood what I was doing, had
so much passion just like I did for the therapies
that we used to help ourselves, but not only that,
also really wanted to help others through from our experiences.
And so having a business partner that you already you
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have love and respect for, we've never gone sideways. We've
been in business now for twelve years and never I mean,
you know, the respect is so big that we were
able to talk through everything.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
And really support each other. So it's it's.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Really an amazing thing because I know how hard business
partners are.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean, it's hard to.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Have I was gonna say, it's a difficult things sometimes
to have business partners.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I don't, but it's also really important.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I've seen it. It's also really important to have the
right people around you and the right sounding board. And
I want to dive into that, but I got to
ask because I know problem so many people are thinking
it right now is you never had a hiccup and
you saw her as this, But how did your sign
feel going like, Okay, now she's really going to be
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a part of our life for like ever, because now
she's going into business with my mom. There's no kind
of like navigating this around this? How how how is
that conversation?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
So, yeah, that's that's a good one.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
I'm glad you brought that up, because it is it's
everybody always wonders that.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
But you know, when when we made.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
That decision, they were still together at the time, but
when we kind of knew that it was going to
be rocky, I mean as far as that they were
not going to end up together in the long run.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I sat both of them down and.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I told them that, you guys are going to have
to deal with each other the rest of my life.
But it is the right match and I think my
son he knew he knows how passionate I am, and
he knew how passionate Caitlin was because he watched her
go through her journey because they were friends clear from
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elementary school and then started dating per se in junior
high and then all through high school and.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Then thirteen years. Thirteen years is a long time.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
So he watched her and he knew her passion as well,
so he understood that what I was doing was probably
the right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And they just know that.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
I mean, they don't live in the same town anymore,
which is helpful, but and he's married and has children now,
so you know, they don't have to face each other much.
But it's it was a matter of it, just like everything,
having a conversation, you know. I think it's really important
to just have that honest conversation and this is why
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we're doing what we're doing, and talk it through.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And as you were saying that, in back of my
head mind, I is like so logical and so like
mom to also be.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Like, listen, this is the reality of things too. Right.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
There's whether it's like mom two kids or like mom
of a friend group.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Let's be honest there's all times where someone's got to
step in and be like, this is the reality. We
gotta figure it out, you know, how are we gonna
deal with this?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
But also as you were talking about that, I was like,
there's probably so many families, whether they have the commerce
or not, in a family business where you know, people
might get divorced, 're and it's a family business, you're
all still working together and so and I think that
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was a great example of how to handle those moments
of two people separating. But you're building something and or
have built something, and it's not like the parties are
just gonna disappear and clean the hands, even if you
wish that could potentially have.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, and that being said as well, how one thing
you brought up is having love and respect for your
business partner.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
How have you handled as you've continued to grow.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
In different aspects maybe and like, I'm asking this question
because I'm curious, so it has goals changed, and partially
to you know, as each of us in individually grow,
our goals can change personally and professionally. How have you
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considered continue to make sure you're on the same page
with goals, but also you're on the same page with
how you show up and serve clients.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Oh wow, you know it's been so natural.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
So I mean because I feel like both of us
it's so deep in our hearts and our soul to
help others that it hasn't changed. And you know, I
think also because we are so good at communicating with
each other and sitting down, spending the time and talking
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about you know, what is the next stage of our
business we're looking at, you know, adding this device, what
does that mean for the business.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Is it going to change our vision?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
You know? Just talking through each step as it comes along.
I think that's the most important thing, is just really
the communication about it all, you know. And I want
to just mention one other thing because it's about it
as far as the business part of it and making
sure that things don't you know, that you have things
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lined up. It was really important to me to make
sure that the law that we have that long. I mean,
obviously you have an operating agreement and its stick to that,
but also to make sure that the long like I'm seventy,
so we don't live forever.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And I wanted to make.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Sure that everyone was honored through my legacy, I guess
and so we have everything in line, so everybody knows
what's going to happen when I pass, and there's no
doubt as far as you know how my family gets
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their part of my legacy, but it's really her job
to carry my legacy forward.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
And I want to talk about that, because whether it's
old age or just something happens and comes up in
life that day comes in owning a business or not
owning a business. Right, having a planning place is important.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
So how did you.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Like having that as a goal and that really important
to you, of not just having the legacy, but also
being very clear on all the steps. What was that
conversation like, because, for example, I asked that because I
remember when my grandmother was the last to pass away,
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and her death did comes suddenly, but about two years
I would say, before she passed away, my nana passed away.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So ironically, the two.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Last living grandparents I had were both women, the women
on either side, And when my nana passed away, it
was also kind of unexpected.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It was over a few months, but it was.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Unexpected overall, and she like had her will and everything
in place.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
But I remember.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
The next time we went to visit my grandma. My
grandma took us, me and my sisters to side.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
And my mom and dad and like.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
We were just having a normal dame and like I
remember being in her house and just hanging out. And
then she looks at us, she goes, girls come here
and my Italian grandmother way, and we're like okay, and
she walks into her bedroom and she turns around and looks.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
At us and she goes, I want you to have
a piece of me, and I want you to have
a piece of my jewelry.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Each of you right now, pick out at least one
thing so I can get guarantee you.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Get at least one thing you want.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
And I looked at her and I was like, we're
not talking about this right now.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
You're not dying like stot.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Like I'm getting emotionally even telling it, because I'm just
like women, you're very healthy, your your grandma, Like I'm like,
stop talking about like.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
You're gonna go tomorrow and like it's gonna be over
and you.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Want us to have these pieces. But it was very
important to her, But it came with me being like
can we stop, Like what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Stop it? But when the day did calm.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
We had she which we didn't know like her way,
She'd put each item in a box and in a side,
and each fox had our names on them, and I
was like okay, wow, and then everything else.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know, got different ways.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But yeah, sometimes we all react differently to when those
conversations come up. And you even talking right now, I'm thinking,
I'm like, I'm thirty one, but maybe i should have
a plan, like, okay, my business because i'm sol an entrepreneur.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Like what happens to people, especially if.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You're not an entrepreneur, do you know one needs to
be covered well?
Speaker 4 (22:22):
And you don't know when your last day is, you know,
And it's it's so interesting because when you said that,
you know, after what your grandma said, that's how Caitlin
would always respond.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
It's like, whenever I want I brought it up. It's
like stop, let's not talk about this.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
This is not happening, and it's like, no, it's not
happening today, but it is inevitable and we never know
when our last day on earth is, so we're always
better off to have a plan. And no matter how
young you are, you should have a plan. I highly
recommend it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Well, now you've got to me thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Maybe I should call my business attorney after this and
have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
And so as far as like those conversations, I mean
that you know they're they're not easy because you're talking
about something that you really don't want to have happen.
And however, with both my with Caitlin and my three sons,
they all have so much respect for me and the
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work that I do, and they know the passion that
I have for it and how important it is that
it continue after I'm gone.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I think the fact that all of.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Them, everybody has so much respect and love for each other.
Even though Caitlin and my son are aren't together anymore,
they still have that respect. And so those conversations we
have they were not hard.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
For me, a little hard for them because yeah, you.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Don't really want to talk about that issue, but you
also don't want to have things turn upside down when
it does happen, So better to be I think it
really does like calm everyone's nerves internally to know that
there is a plan in place. So it's very very important,
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and I have to say that it was. I just
want to share this little tidbit in twenty twenty one,
I nearly died of COVID and I was in the
ICU for two weeks and it was really touch and
go for two weeks whether or not I was coming
out of there. And at that time, my oldest son
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was my power of attorney medically. And what I realized
through that experience because he does don't really understand everything
that I believe in and how I would want to
be treated.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Even though he knows my business, and he.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Doesn't really have the knowledge that I have and that
Caitlyn has. And so it was Caitlin that was directing
him through that whole thing. What do you need to
be telling the doctors? What questions you need me to
be asking? And going through that experience because obviously I lived,
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I think goodness, my work wasn't done. But what it
made me realize was that I had the wrong person
as my power of attorney for my medical issues. So
that's something that I changed in my will and so.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
And they have respect for that.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
And it's also like sometimes.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
You go through moments and you're like, like you said,
you realize who the right person is. So sometimes the
person who was the wrong person, whether it's in job
or like a responsibilities like.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
That was like why am I in charge of this?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Like this person is a better fit, and even talking
about this right now as we've been talking about this
specific topic, and I was like, you know, my boyfriend
who's in the military, when you go through boot camp
before you go to your first station, you have to
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write out your will.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You have to have all that in place.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
So I remember, and I totally forgot this until we
were talking. We were actually in.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Juno where.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
We are stationed, and I for we think it was
we just went to the Shine of shank Terrees, which
is here in Juna by yourselves, and we saw this
along the path like towards the end they of like
the cemetery blocks like stone things, and it's very pretty.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
And we went and like paid our respects to those people.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
And that was like our second third time there and
we hadn't walked that far, so we didn't even know
that you could be buried there. And we turned around
and he mentioned something, He's like, oh, when I died,
this is I already have this planet.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
This is the plant And I was like.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Okay, sure, okay, and it like didn't It was so Notchalot,
because he had been in for so long that it
was just like, okay, whether it happens during this time
or down the line, like this was a conversation I
had to like I did think through this at eighteen
years old, so I and like sit with it, and
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so I was like, okay, sure, And it was just
with such confidence at ease.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
That makes you more confident in ease.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So the other thing I realized is, and you expressed
it today, is like when you are confident and it
is a priority and you're secure in the decision, it
makes it everyone else kind of be like, okay, you know,
more comfortable with its will.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But let's move on from that because there's so much
more to discuss.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
I want to talk about the and I see it
behind you as we're recording right now, your book Radical Recovery.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
What made you decide to write a book.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I felt it was really important for really to continue
to educate people about things that I had learned and
how we as humans can get better healing, faster healing
by using different modalities over I mean, I working when
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I worked for the Nature Path, I learned so much
about you know, supplementation and all kinds of different therapies.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
But what I realized through that is that my heart always.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Went to what modalities can be used to help encourage
the natural healing abilities in our body. So we're giving
our body extra energy in different ways. Light therapy is
through photons, Hyperbaric oxygen therapy is hyperoxygenating the body. There's
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a lot of different you know, I mean using castor
oil to help pull out toxins, I mean all those
different things. And I felt it was really important to
share the knowledge that I had gained over the years
because when I my husband went through what he went through,
I needed to pull out of all of those years
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of experience to help him to survive what he was
going through. And I felt it really important to pass
that on for other people because it was a big,
big challenge what he was facing. And so it was
just my way of, you know, putting it out to
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other people, not you know, other people can find it
without even knowing me and maybe get something out of
it to help someone else with their journey through it.
And it was also very cathartic because what we went
through was very, very intense.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
And I'm curious about two. Once you started writing what
was your process, like, did you sit down and all
of a sudden everything flowed out or were there moments
where you like, I'm running this business and I got
this going on, and now this is sitting on the
top of my head because a lot of people right
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now as well, are like, how can I help as
many people as possible?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And you mentioned that.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
A subconscious way as you were answering the question of
you know, going back to legacy, going back to helping
as many people as possible, and that reads. But once
you get started with something right, especially when you're a
busy individual, sometimes things can fall off the plate and
you never finish them. So for you, what was that
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like and how did you make sure you finished that
book and it got out there.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
That's a really really good question, by the way, because
so many people start something and they just never finish
it because they keep changing it and not never finishing it,
so it never gets into the hands of the people
that need it.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
So I worked with a coach and her her deal
was ninety days to done.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
So you were encouraged to write your book in ninety
days and whatever it is at ninety days, that's your
book and you get it published. So I was under
pressure from myself to get that done, and so did
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I take I took time to. Yes, sometimes it was
sitting in my office and just you know, going through
typing out the story, just making sure, you know, I
was just day by day and I did a lot
of it through.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
So when my husband was going through his cancer.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Diagnosis and treatment and everything we went through, I kept
a daily log so of all of his medications, all
took notes on everything that was going on with him,
bowel movements, blood pressure or all of everything. So each
page had a day, I mean, or each day had
a page, and so I had his whole story in
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this notebook of everything we had been through. So I
really kind of went off of that a lot, but
I also had it ingrained in my mind because it
was intense what we went through. I mean, when we
got to Seattle for a third opinion, they told us
he only had he had less than a week to live.
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So it was touch and go for quite a while
for a couple months of whether or not he was
going to live through this. And so as I was writing,
I mean, there were times when I would burst into
tears and have to run out of the room and
away from my computer and breathe because it brought up
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such emotion from what we had just gone through. And
how I had the strength to do it all, you know,
how how did I gather the strength because I I
had to be his everything and so it was very
cathartic and I and then there are also times when
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I did a lot of my writing inside of a
hyperbaric chamber, which felt like a safe place too.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Well, And I want to dive into that aspect right
because like a lot of people while we're sitting here
are probably like, okay, trying to imagine what a hyperbolic
chamber is like.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
So I had another question in mind, but first I
want to touch upon that.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
And then we're going to go Okay, First, I always
make sure you say it right, because hyperbolic is way
different than hyperbaric.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Oh well, see I'm learning something.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Right now, and you're not alone.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
A lot of people do that, so it's okay.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
So tell me what that is like. And yeah, all
this stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
And why we use it or I mean, because it
kind have popped all over the face here and so
so hyperbaric oxygen therapy is breathing oxygen at a pressure,
a greater pressure to get a change in the body.
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So how it works is we typically rely on red
blood cells to get oxygen to our tissue. But when
we have any kind of inflammation or damage in the body,
we get restriction in the blood vessels and we're not
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going to be able to get those red blood cells
through to get to the tissue. On the other side,
that's when we start having symptoms. So it can be
symptoms like pain, it can be disease like cancer. It
can be migraines, headaches, brain tramp I mean, memory loss, fatigue,
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any kind of symptom. You can pretty much bet that
there is an area of your body that is not
getting the oxygen that it needs, and those cells are
sending a message to us saying, help me, help me,
I need oxygen. So oxygen is our most important primal nutrient.
It's the one thing we can't live without for minutes,
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and it's the first thing we need when we need healing.
We need oxygen to get to the tissue. So those
the symptoms that are being sent to us from our
cells is really saying give me oxygen, and so our
fluids can flow to all parts of our body. But
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it doesn't carry oxygen, so it can't really help. So
when you're in a hyperbaric chamber, we now can dissolve
the oxygen into the fluids of the body.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
And that's called Henry's law.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
And Henry's law says when we put a gas under pressure,
we can now dissolve it into fluids. So the simplest
way for someone to have a visual of this is
you know those little soda stream things that make carbonated water,
So that's an example of Henry's law. So that's putting
oxygen under pressure and you're making bubbly water. So when
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you get in a hyperbaric chamber, it's like a soda
stream for the body. It literally is dissolving that oxygen
you're breathing into the fluids of the body. So now
we can hyperoxygenate the body with the fluid now carrying oxygen. Way,
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we can start reducing inflammation and start reducing symptoms.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
As simple as that.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
So the next question you're saying it's as simple as that,
is who should be looking at this?
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Like should everyone be using it even if you're healthy?
Should everyone kind of make it part of like at
least a yearly routine. And do it or is it
really for if you're having certain symptoms.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
So, in my opinion and from what I've gone through,
I think everyone should have the experience so you know
that it is an option for you when you need
it personally.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
That's how I feel.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
I feel like every household should have a hyperbaria chamber
in it because we would all be a little healthier. So,
I mean, obviously I use it for anti aging. Now,
I mean what does that mean. It means I'm keeping
in internally my body younger by getting in a hyperbaric
(39:05):
chamber because I'm making sure that I'm reducing inflammation on
a regular basis. Is it that I get in every
every day? No, I don't get in every day. Sometimes
I go through times when I'm in there every every morning.
But people that really should I mean so yes, as
far as across the board, I think everyone should try
(39:25):
it just so you know what the therapy is and
be familiar with it. But the people that really can
benefit our you know, we as far as in our
facility here, anybody that has any kind of brain brain problems,
whether it be traumatic brain injury, post traumatic stress syndrome,
(39:50):
even dementia, getting more oxygen to the brain is game changer.
So reducing the inflammation in the brain and getting more
or oxygen slash blood flow can do wonders any kind
of cancer recovery, because if someone's going through chemon radiation
(40:13):
or surgery, you need recovery. Chemon Radiation destroy our blood vessels.
I mean, it is really hard on our bodies. We
come out of treatment with a lot of damage and
we don't have much of an immune system to help
ourselves to heal. And if we can give our body
(40:36):
some extra nutrients such as oxygen and light, you can
really speed up the recovery after your treatment. I feel
like anybody who goes through radiation therapy should absolutely hands
down and go through hyperbaric treatment. One of the so
(40:57):
in the hyperbaric world, one of there's diagnoses that are
FDA approved, so those are the only conditions that are
covered by insurance. One of those is post radiation damage.
The thing that I am not happy with, and it
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frustrates me, is that they won't give you hyperbaric they
won't refer you to hyperbaric oxygen therapy after radiation. They
will wait for you to start falling apart because the
radiation has damaged your tissue to the point where it
doesn't have circulation that it needs. I feel like it
should be standard of care after radiation treatment personally, just
(41:44):
from what I saw happen with my husband and what
I see has you know, happen with other people that
I've seen here at the clinic. I don't know if
I got off track there, but.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
No, it made me think of something.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Now I'm like, I have more and more questions here
about this. So one thing you mentioned early on in
your answer, You're like, you should do it, you know,
at home, and it's as easy as that. So you
have your treatment facility in Vancouver, Washington.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
And I'm going to go out on a limb.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Okay, And this could be I could be proven wrong,
but like I'm going to go off on the limb
and say, in Juno, Alaska, for example, there isn't a
facility that offers that. Is this something for people who
don't have a facility near them that they can do
(42:41):
at home, or is this something where's you really do
need that facility?
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Well, for one, you might be surprised if you look
for a facility, so you might not know there's not
a lot of us around. It is a pretty small industry,
but it is growing by leaps and bounds. We do
sell hyperbaric chambers. We also rent them straight from the company,
(43:08):
and we can set up a chamber. We can help
anyone set up a chamber in their home, so it
would be a mild mostly usually it would be a
mild chamber. We'd also set up hardshell chambers that go
to a higher pressure, but mild hyperbaric chambers go to
a very low pressure, which is usually around ten feet
(43:29):
underwater pressure.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
And even though it's so mild, you can still get
so much benefit.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
I mean, for five years of our business, all we
had was mild hyperbarics. Many people will tell you that's
not hyperbarics, but.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
It is.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Any time you are going under pressure, you will start
as soon as the pressure changes, that is around your body,
you are going to start having gene expression change. And
for me, I got my healing from my migraines and
(44:05):
my nerve damage that I had taken on from a
two hundred and twenty volt shock.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I got all of my healing in a mild.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
Hyperbaric chamber without extra oxygen. So all I had was
this chamber that I was getting in and doing treatment
twice a day for at least an hour twice a day,
and within a month, my migraines were gone and my
nerve damage was well on its way from disappearing. And
(44:37):
that was back when we said when we bought the chamber,
and we said, if we open, if we get our healing,
if I get my healing, we'll open a healing center.
If I don't get my healing, we'll sell the chamber. Well,
that's how we ended up having a healing center is
(44:58):
because I did get my hea from that mild pressure.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
So nobody can tell.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Me that that doesn't.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Help you, because it was a game changer for me.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
And for twelve years, I have never had another migraine.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
So it was permanent change for me.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
And I'm sure that it was because I had brain
trauma from flying over my handlebars and landing on my
face or falling out of trees, and you know, I mean,
I can tell you many times when I'm sure that
I had concussions and as over the years, if you
have that inflammation in your brain, you will continue to
(45:34):
get worse. And I did continue to get worse, and
so it was a game changer for my life, and
I think it can for other people as well.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
And it is there, like you mentioned earlier, it through
different stories like that one you did twice a day
at home earlier you mentioned a.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Different amount of times. So is there.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Should you let me put this way? Do you consult
someone like yourself to create the plan, say this is
how long you should go in things like that?
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yes, definitely.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
I mean you always want to work with somebody that
has some knowledge behind their belt. You know, at the
time when I did that, I was working under a physician.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
They wrote me a prescription.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
I mean, we have to have a prescription on file
for anyone that we put in a hyperbaric chamber or
for somebody for home use. So we set up a
lot of chambers in people's homes because they need them
in their homes because they're not close enough to a
facility to get the treatment that they need and they're
that sick. So but we have to have a prescription
(46:48):
on file. So it is good to chat with somebody,
you know, to work with somebody that knows what they're
doing and that can help you get the prescription you
need and have the physicians backing and knowledge so we
have a medical director here, so it's not just just
my experience and what I do, but we have we
(47:09):
do have a medical director, and I think it's very
important because you want, you need that guidance.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
It is a it's a medical treatment.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
I mean it's been being used for three over three
hundred years medically, hyperbarics has been so there's there's a
long you know, a lot of years that we can
rely on for data.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Well, and it's in.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
All that you're saying as well, in my head, I'm going, Okay,
they should also be talked more about in the military.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Because absolutely, totally.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yes, there's a lot of PTSC.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
There's a lot of you know, injuries that occur, there's
a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I'm just like going in my head.
Speaker 4 (47:58):
I'm like, oh this wait for sure, And you know,
the thing is and there's more and more studies coming
out the doctors that we work with that we you know,
we rely on when we have we go to conference
every year, uh you know that do our talks. They're
all doing, you know, amazing research studies proving that these
(48:19):
lower pressures are a lot of times that's what we need,
and especially when it comes to PTSD and brain trauma,
those lower pressures. It can change somebody's world very quickly.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
Yeah, so all military people out there, they need it. Yes,
ask the question I know about tried care, So see
where closest to you. But and it very much sounds
like from what you said earlier, it should be something
that should be a part of all of our discussions, even.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
As a not reactive, proactive proactive. I think it's free.
I was like, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Proactive, I think it's It's really part of the future
of our medicine, you know. I mean you look at
pro athletes and how they're using it, and you know,
you wonder these athletes are playing longer at a at
an older age, and how are they doing that?
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Why are they doing that?
Speaker 4 (49:28):
It's because of all the biohacking that's happening, and hyperbariates
is one of those big tools that they use.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
So, and one thing I want to cover as well
is everyone's health journey is different. So how do you
approach creating a personalized treatment plan for people who come
to your clinic, whether it's a proactive or reactive situation.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
So the first thing that I feel is so important
just sitting and listening to their story because you really
want to understand what they've been through, how are they feeling,
whether they're they're symptoms, what have they tried, what has worked,
what hasn't worked, you know, and just really standing with
(50:20):
them in their story. And from there then we can
talk about what therapies because we do have a lot
of different therapies here that are all natural to give
us give our bodies different energies to get the healing
that we need. And so then we can guide them
(50:40):
on what we would recommend for them, you know, what
could be beneficial, and you know that might include you know,
I'm not going to be able to get to the
clinic to do treatment, so then we can see what
can we do, how can we help you at home?
And so really it's a matter of listening to people,
(51:03):
what they've been through, where they're at at the time,
and giving some giving them some hope. So that's one
of the.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Things that I love about what we have built here.
We went from fifteen hundred.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
Square feet when we first started one chamber and the
few life paths to a forty five hundred square feet facility.
And what I love is when people come in and
they have been suffering terribly and they say, We've tried,
I've tried everything, and nobody has any answers for me.
(51:39):
And we're able to introduce them to several different therapies
that could be beneficial for them that they've never heard of.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
And that's a really.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Good feeling to give people hope that there may be
something else that they've never heard of that they can
try and it might help.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
Them get it out of their suffering. I love that.
That would be really good to me.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
That's success.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
There you go love it and and it's a great
way to wrap up. We start with the word success.
We're gonna end with day and now, how can people
get in touch with you if they wan't connect with you?
Speaker 3 (52:21):
So you can reach it?
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Reach me off of our website, which is in Light
Hyperbarics dot com. You can look up in Light Hyperbarics
and get the phone number and give us a call.
I do consults with people all the time, whether you
are able to come into the clinic or we do
it via zoom like this.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
We can.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
We can connect in many different ways, but probably the
website is the best way to reach me. You can
also follow us on Instagram, Facebook, So well, thank.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
You and not for all of your insight today.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
Thank you for having me. This has been fun. It
went in a totally different direction than.
Speaker 2 (53:01):
I thought it was gonna. Well, that's I like to
surprise us like that.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
We have some powerful conversation and it could go in
an unpredicted.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
Path, just like the healing you hope so many people do.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
Absolutely and a few of.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
Our key takeaways from today's conversation include, have love and
respect for your business partners and for people in your life.
I really think that shine through in so much that
Enna talked about is having respect for the people and
open communication with the people you work with, loved ones,
(53:40):
for clients, and having that level of respect pay dividends
a long run, but also help you show up with
that joy that Enna talked about and that passion every
single day, as.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Well as spend the next time, spend.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
More time that the next time, spend more time walking
through all aspects. When it ended, talked about how she
approached is figuring out a health plan with a client,
When she talked about figuring out long term plans for
the business, for making business decisions, for making life decisions.
(54:20):
She talked about walking through all the different steps and
aspects and why it's beneficial and what's the right decision.
Speaker 2 (54:28):
That's really important.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
So next time you're going through a challenging moment, whether
it's in healthcare and health treatment, or it's in business,
or it's about planning long term life, take a step back,
sit down and write through all the different aspects as
well as do you have a plan for something happens.
(54:51):
I mean, Edda made me think, I'm like, I've really
got a call start thinking about that. And one thing
I love that I think was expressed when Enna was
talking about her book and the joy and.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
The legacy and the also.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Therapy that was for her is she sat down and
she did it in ninety days and done and that
concept and I think so many of us can implement
that into not just books.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
That you've thought about writing and.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
Being like, Okay, I have ninety days to get this done,
or it could be in business, right, you want to
launch that podcast, I have ninety days to do this.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
Move the needle and set that.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Goalpost for yourself and don't allow it to move, because
when we continuously allow it to move, it never gets done.
So that is the one challenge I want to leave
everyone with as well as give yourself the ninety days
and be done.
Speaker 2 (55:58):
Role end to talk about.
Speaker 1 (56:00):
And really the last thing I want to leave everyone
with is the importance of understanding our body and understanding
what additional things we can all be using to help us,
like the hyperpheric oxygen chambers and light therapy and no,
(56:24):
and ask yourself, can that be used in my life?
Is this something I can be using? Whether you're near Vancouver,
Washington or not. This was a great episode with our
top notch guest at Ninette.
Speaker 2 (56:36):
Thank you for listening and having successful winner
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