October 16, 2025 • 7 mins
Fresh off a peace summit in Egypt, Trump’s caught on a hot mic discussing real estate deals with Indonesia’s president, then pivots to threatening to yank Boston’s World Cup games because he doesn’t like the mayor. International diplomacy, meet condo development and sports revenge.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Callaroga Shark Media from Boston, where it would be a
shame if someone took your World Cup away. This is ballance,
that's right now. If you want to write a check,
maybe we could talk. Let's hit this. I'm Patrick Gutfield
and President Trump attended a Gaza ceasefire summit in Egypt
(00:26):
this week where he gave a speech about peace in
the Middle East. Very presidential, very diplomatic, and then immediately
after his speech, he forgot the microphone was still on.
Trump was caught on a hot mic having what appeared
to be a business conversation with Indonesian President Proboo Subianto.
Subianto asked to meet with Eric Trump to discuss what
(00:46):
sounds like real estate projects. Trump responded, He's such a
good boy. I'll have Eric call you now. The White
House has repeatedly insisted there's a firewall between Trump's presidential
duties and his family business. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said
in May that it's frankly ridiculous to suggest Trump does
anything for his own benefit, which is a bold statement
to make before your boss gets caught discussing condo deals
(01:09):
at a peace summit. The audio is muffled, but at
one point Subianto mentions a location that's not safe security
wise and says they'll need to look for a better place.
Trump agrees and says he'll have Eric or don call him.
So apparently we're workshopping Trump tower locations during international diplomacy now.
Subianto also mentioned someone named Harry, likely Harry Tanozwadibjo, an
(01:32):
Indonesian real estate developer who's already partnered with the Trump
organization on two properties in Indonesia. Just days before the summit,
Tanoswadibjo posted a promotional video for Trump branded property in
Lido City, bragging about its breathtaking views and unmatched prestige.
Great timing. Tony Kark from the watchdog group Accountable US
(01:52):
said Trump is using a foreign leader summit as a
platform to smooth things over for his son's condo development ventures.
But hey, why was a trip to Egypt talking only
about ceasefires when you could also discuss waterfront views. Indonesia's
foreign minister tried to downplay the whole thing, saying the
two presidents are friends, so private conversations are natural. Sure,
(02:13):
totally natural. I have lots of friends, I discuss international
real estate deals with right after giving speeches about Middle
East peace. That's just what friends do. Before they parted ways,
Trump told Subianto, you you're a fantastic guy. I'll have
one of them call you. I like that. You told
me that we don't need that. We don't need what
(02:33):
exactly microphones that work ethical guidelines the appearance of impropriety.
While in Egypt, Trump thanked Egyptian President El Sissy and
noted that Sissy had been my friend right from the
beginning during the campaign against Crooked Hillary Clinton. Sir, this
is a peace treaty. Back in twenty sixteen, when Trump's
campaign was broke, he met with Sissy and called him
(02:55):
a fantastic guy. Once elected, Trump gave Egypt two hundred
million dollars his own state department, opposed than a billion more.
The Washington Post later reported Trump shut down an investigation
into a ten million dollar withdrawal from Egypt's national bank,
the same amount Trump mysteriously injected into his own campaign.
Totally unrelated, I'm sure. At that same Egypt event, Trump
(03:19):
was caught on a hot mic arranging a meeting between
his son Eric and Indonesia's president Eric has no government job,
but he does manage the Trump organization, which just opened
a golf course in Indonesia. What a coincidence. Then there's
Katar first term funders of terrorism, second term, they gave
him a four hundred million dollar jet. Now if Katar
(03:40):
gets attacked, we respond like we've been attacked. You can
buy a lot with four hundred million dollars. Apparently you
can buy a military alliance. And this is all happening
during a government shutdown. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent just sent
twenty billion dollars to Argentina to bail out their currency.
Argentina has been ailed out by the IMF twenty three
(04:01):
times and still collapsed in April. We have almost no
trade with them. Why are we doing this? Two billionaires
close to Besent bet big on Argentina's economy. If we
prop them up, they get rich, so to recap. Egypt
gets billions, Katar gets a military treaty, Indonesia gets a
presidential endorsement, Argentina gets twenty billion dollars, and American hospitals
(04:24):
are operating without funding, but sure fiscal responsibility. President Trump
held a press event this week with Argentine President Javier Milai,
who was visiting after receiving a twenty billion dollar bailout. Naturally,
the conversation turned to the most pressing issue facing America,
threatening to take sporting events away from cities he doesn't like.
(04:47):
Trump said he would consider pulling World Cup games from
Boston because of recent street takeovers where police officers were
attacked and a police car was set on fire. His
main concern, Boston may Or Michelle Wu is left and
not good. So the solution to street crime is apparently
to punish the entire city by taking away soccer matches
scheduled for Gillette Stadium, which is twenty two miles outside
(05:11):
of Boston. That'll show those street racers. Trump explained his
enforcement strategy. If someone is doing a bad job and
I feel there's unsafe conditions, I would call Gianni, the
head of FIFA, who is phenomenal, and say let's move
it to another location. And he would do that. He
wouldn't love to do it, but he'd do it very easily.
(05:32):
He'd do it now. Gianni Infantino, the FIFA president, has
been extremely cozy with Trump. He's shown up at multiple
Oval Office events. Had Trump delivered the club World Cup
trophy to Chelsea and even delayed FIFA's own congress to
accompany Trump to the Middle East. The FIFA trophies Infantino
gave Trump have apparently become permanent fixtures in the Oval Office.
(05:54):
So yes, they're friends. But when Trump previously threatened to
pull games from Seattle in San Francisco in September, FIFA
Vice President Victor Montagliani wasn't having it. He said, with
all due respect to current world leaders, football is bigger
than them, and football will survive their regime and their
government and their slogans, which is a diplomatic way of saying,
(06:14):
you can't actually do this. Then Trump decided to expand
his threats to the twenty twenty eight Los Angeles Olympics.
He said, if LA isn't prepared properly, he'd move it
to another location. He acknowledged he'd need a different kind
of permission for that one, permission from the International Olympic Committee,
whose new president, Kirsty Coventry hasn't even met with him yet.
(06:37):
Trump criticized California Governor Gavin Newsom's handling of the LA
wildfires and warned if he doesn't play ball We're going
to have to be very tough, which raises the question,
what does playing ball mean in this context? Agreeing with
everything Trump says, changing political parties, installing gold toilets in
city hall. Trump previously went after Seattle and San Francisco
(06:59):
for being run by radical left lunatics who don't know
what they're doing. Apparently the vetting process for World Cup
host cities should have included a political litmus test. Trump's
final message to Boston was succinct. Boston better clean up
their act. That's all I can say. Well, that and
the part about calling your friend at FIFA to move
an international sporting event because you don't like the mayor.
(07:21):
But other than that, yes, that's all you can say.
Callaroga Shark Media from Boston, where it would be a
shame if someone took your World Cup away. This is ballance,
that's right now. If you want to write a check,
maybe we could talk. Let's hit this. I'm Patrick Gutfield
and President Trump attended a Gaza ceasefire summit in Egypt
(00:26):
this week where he gave a speech about peace in
the Middle East. Very presidential, very diplomatic, and then immediately
after his speech, he forgot the microphone was still on.
Trump was caught on a hot mic having what appeared
to be a business conversation with Indonesian President Proboo Subianto.
Subianto asked to meet with Eric Trump to discuss what
(00:46):
sounds like real estate projects. Trump responded, He's such a
good boy. I'll have Eric call you now. The White
House has repeatedly insisted there's a firewall between Trump's presidential
duties and his family business. Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said
in May that it's frankly ridiculous to suggest Trump does
anything for his own benefit, which is a bold statement
to make before your boss gets caught discussing condo deals
(01:09):
at a peace summit. The audio is muffled, but at
one point Subianto mentions a location that's not safe security
wise and says they'll need to look for a better place.
Trump agrees and says he'll have Eric or don call him.
So apparently we're workshopping Trump tower locations during international diplomacy now.
Subianto also mentioned someone named Harry, likely Harry Tanozwadibjo, an
(01:32):
Indonesian real estate developer who's already partnered with the Trump
organization on two properties in Indonesia. Just days before the summit,
Tanoswadibjo posted a promotional video for Trump branded property in
Lido City, bragging about its breathtaking views and unmatched prestige.
Great timing. Tony Kark from the watchdog group Accountable US
(01:52):
said Trump is using a foreign leader summit as a
platform to smooth things over for his son's condo development ventures.
But hey, why was a trip to Egypt talking only
about ceasefires when you could also discuss waterfront views. Indonesia's
foreign minister tried to downplay the whole thing, saying the
two presidents are friends, so private conversations are natural. Sure,
(02:13):
totally natural. I have lots of friends, I discuss international
real estate deals with right after giving speeches about Middle
East peace. That's just what friends do. Before they parted ways,
Trump told Subianto, you you're a fantastic guy. I'll have
one of them call you. I like that. You told
me that we don't need that. We don't need what
(02:33):
exactly microphones that work ethical guidelines the appearance of impropriety.
While in Egypt, Trump thanked Egyptian President El Sissy and
noted that Sissy had been my friend right from the
beginning during the campaign against Crooked Hillary Clinton. Sir, this
is a peace treaty. Back in twenty sixteen, when Trump's
campaign was broke, he met with Sissy and called him
(02:55):
a fantastic guy. Once elected, Trump gave Egypt two hundred
million dollars his own state department, opposed than a billion more.
The Washington Post later reported Trump shut down an investigation
into a ten million dollar withdrawal from Egypt's national bank,
the same amount Trump mysteriously injected into his own campaign.
Totally unrelated, I'm sure. At that same Egypt event, Trump
(03:19):
was caught on a hot mic arranging a meeting between
his son Eric and Indonesia's president Eric has no government job,
but he does manage the Trump organization, which just opened
a golf course in Indonesia. What a coincidence. Then there's
Katar first term funders of terrorism, second term, they gave
him a four hundred million dollar jet. Now if Katar
(03:40):
gets attacked, we respond like we've been attacked. You can
buy a lot with four hundred million dollars. Apparently you
can buy a military alliance. And this is all happening
during a government shutdown. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent just sent
twenty billion dollars to Argentina to bail out their currency.
Argentina has been ailed out by the IMF twenty three
(04:01):
times and still collapsed in April. We have almost no
trade with them. Why are we doing this? Two billionaires
close to Besent bet big on Argentina's economy. If we
prop them up, they get rich, so to recap. Egypt
gets billions, Katar gets a military treaty, Indonesia gets a
presidential endorsement, Argentina gets twenty billion dollars, and American hospitals
(04:24):
are operating without funding, but sure fiscal responsibility. President Trump
held a press event this week with Argentine President Javier Milai,
who was visiting after receiving a twenty billion dollar bailout. Naturally,
the conversation turned to the most pressing issue facing America,
threatening to take sporting events away from cities he doesn't like.
(04:47):
Trump said he would consider pulling World Cup games from
Boston because of recent street takeovers where police officers were
attacked and a police car was set on fire. His
main concern, Boston may Or Michelle Wu is left and
not good. So the solution to street crime is apparently
to punish the entire city by taking away soccer matches
scheduled for Gillette Stadium, which is twenty two miles outside
(05:11):
of Boston. That'll show those street racers. Trump explained his
enforcement strategy. If someone is doing a bad job and
I feel there's unsafe conditions, I would call Gianni, the
head of FIFA, who is phenomenal, and say let's move
it to another location. And he would do that. He
wouldn't love to do it, but he'd do it very easily.
(05:32):
He'd do it now. Gianni Infantino, the FIFA president, has
been extremely cozy with Trump. He's shown up at multiple
Oval Office events. Had Trump delivered the club World Cup
trophy to Chelsea and even delayed FIFA's own congress to
accompany Trump to the Middle East. The FIFA trophies Infantino
gave Trump have apparently become permanent fixtures in the Oval Office.
(05:54):
So yes, they're friends. But when Trump previously threatened to
pull games from Seattle in San Francisco in September, FIFA
Vice President Victor Montagliani wasn't having it. He said, with
all due respect to current world leaders, football is bigger
than them, and football will survive their regime and their
government and their slogans, which is a diplomatic way of saying,
(06:14):
you can't actually do this. Then Trump decided to expand
his threats to the twenty twenty eight Los Angeles Olympics.
He said, if LA isn't prepared properly, he'd move it
to another location. He acknowledged he'd need a different kind
of permission for that one, permission from the International Olympic Committee,
whose new president, Kirsty Coventry hasn't even met with him yet.
(06:37):
Trump criticized California Governor Gavin Newsom's handling of the LA
wildfires and warned if he doesn't play ball We're going
to have to be very tough, which raises the question,
what does playing ball mean in this context? Agreeing with
everything Trump says, changing political parties, installing gold toilets in
city hall. Trump previously went after Seattle and San Francisco
(06:59):
for being run by radical left lunatics who don't know
what they're doing. Apparently the vetting process for World Cup
host cities should have included a political litmus test. Trump's
final message to Boston was succinct. Boston better clean up
their act. That's all I can say. Well, that and
the part about calling your friend at FIFA to move
an international sporting event because you don't like the mayor.
(07:21):
But other than that, yes, that's all you can say.
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