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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Beyond Mindset Limits with Tisha Marie Kine. Here
we explore how unlocking your mindset can pave the way
for unlimited success. Discover how to create opportunities through legal challenges,
and transform your business and life with effective public relations strategies.
Get ready to elevate your journey and maximize your potential.

(00:26):
Now let's welcome your host, tisham Marie Cain.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Welcome back to Beyond Mindset Limits, where we go beyond
surface level thinking and into real transformation, the kind that
changes your life, your business, and who you become. I'm
your host, Tisha Marie Kine, CEO and founder of Beyond
Mindset Limits. Publicists, producer, publisher, transformational expert, and I have

(00:58):
gone from the courtroom to the microphone, helping people win
in life, in business, and beyond. This platform is about
elevating voices, expanding perspectives, and bringing you to the tools
that you need to truly step in your power. And
today this conversation is important and it's really really special

(01:21):
and personal to me. I'm joined with Elizabeth Ann Walker.
She is the founder of Integrated NLP and internationally recognized
master trainer in embodied Leadership. In transformation and energetic mastery.
Her presence shifts rooms, her facilitation moves timelines. She holds

(01:46):
a field where truth lands, identities rewire, and next levels
activate instantly within her rooms. She holds a field where
truth lands, identities rewire. I have to say that again
because she radically transformed my life to and we'll get
to that. She helps entrepreneurs, leaders, and facilitators across the

(02:09):
world turn strategies from plateaus into soul calls. Soul calling work.
Her work moves beyond surface level. It's embodied, it's structured,
and more importantly, it's lasting. She speaks to the unconscious,
the body, the energy, and everything aligns in response. Elizabeth

(02:36):
is the leader who mirrors your brilliance, activates your power,
and invites the version of you who is ready in
the right now. She activates who you become next. And
for me, she radically transformed my life. So Elizabeth, thank
you to the show.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Oh my goodness. Sometimes I hear my own and I go,
who is this lady? She sounds really cool, and then
I go, oh my god, that's me. It's so great. Yeah,
I love that.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh my god, you are your freaking famous, You're amazing.
You're in Australia, I'm here in the States, and I
knew I'm like, I have to have Elizabeth on my show.
And so thank you from my deepest, deepest part of
my heart. Thank you for being here with me.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
It's such an honor. Like, we have so many clients
from the States and we love working with, particularly women
from the States. And what I love the most is
being able to speak into the hearts and minds of
so many and this platform is giving me an opportunity
to do that. So I'm super grateful. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Great. So let's dive in. So this is beyond mindset limits.
I want to know all about you. I want our
listeners who are traveling down the roadway to really dive
into Elizabeth Ann Walker and who she is. And first
let's start with your personal journey. Can you share your
journey into becoming a master coach and a global NLP trainer? Well,

(04:04):
first of all, I guess it's important. What is LP.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, So NLP is neuro linguistic programming, neuromeaning the mind, neuroscience, linguistic,
the words that we speak, not just externally, the words
that we speak internally as well. In our own head.
And then we've got programming. And this is like patterning,
programming habits the same thing. It's things that we do unconsciously,

(04:28):
you know. So if you were to go home tonight
and you were to brush your teeth with the other hand,
you may find it quite difficult, even though you've been
brushing your teeth for fifty years, right or how old
you are, you've been brushing your teeth for a long time.
If you'd switch hands, your brain doesn't know what to
do with that because it's used to running the same pattern.
And so the programming part is looking at those patterns
and deconstructing the ones that are not helpful for you

(04:51):
to get your goals and creating the ones that are
going to be helpful for you to get your goals.
My goodness, you know you want to be an entreprene
If you've got a pattern of I'm not good enough,
then it's highly likely that that pattern's going to show
up in business. Right. You want to get rid of
that pattern and get a pattern that says I am
incredible at creating results, because that's going to be a

(05:14):
program that's going to support you to become that next
level entrepreneur. That you want to be.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
And what I know from you is you're an expert
at this. Elizabeth, you are the leading top global trainer
in NLP, and if anyone gets to learn NLP, it
needs to be from Elizabeth N. Walker. And I mean
I endorse you on all fronts because I'm a master
NLP practitioner because of you. Yeah, you challenged me to

(05:42):
the next best level of myself and so you're an
expert of this. So I love that. I love that
NLP And do you use LP and like a daily
practice like at home?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, So I totally believe that NLP is a lifestyle right.
Like there's a lot of trainers out there that the
teachers of techniques and it's like, oh, if you have this,
use this, if you have that, use that. Actually, the
techniques are so much deeper than that, you know. And
that's why I call what I do integrated NLP because
it works not just at the surface level. It's not
just a series of techniques to fix a series of problems.

(06:16):
It's actually a way of life where you show up
in your life as the best version of you every
single day and you have the techniques to support you
to do that.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yes, and I remember when you taught me these words
integrated and embodied, and I didn't have a freaking clue
what that is, right, because I was so in my
logical left brain, you know, being trained and indoctrinated in
law school, that I was like, what does this mean?
What is integrated embodied mean? What does this mean? And

(06:51):
soil you broke it down and taught it to me,
and I was like, Wow, this was a whole new
world for me.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, there's a whole lot of people out there that
are thinking their feelings and not feeling their feelings. And
what I mean by that is they say things like
just give me a few moments to process that, or
they go I'm just yeah, like I can totally see
where the hurt came from, and so I'm just trying

(07:19):
to manage, you know how I respond to that. That's
all thinking feelings, actually letting that emotion course through your body.
And when we talk about emotion, it's energy and motion,
right Like, it needs to move. It needs to move
to be resolved, it needs to move to be felt,
it needs to move to be able to move through
you and your life is as a vessel and a

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conduit for energy. Right, You can create and move energy.
It's just always there. And so as you as a conduit,
your job is to allow that energetic emotion to move
through you. It's not yours to hold on to you,
it's not yours to be part of you forever. It
is simply an experience and a beautiful experience of being human.

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And when we can allow that emotion to move through
our body, it keeps moving and it eventually moves out
of our body. When we lock it down in our mind,
we tend to ruminate on it. So we think over
and over and over and over on the same thing.
Why did he hurt me? What did I do wrong?
How was that mean? In terms of you know, what
did I do to create that? How? It goes crazy

(08:29):
in your mind? Right? But what about if you just
sat with it and let it pass through you? What
if you could live a life where you were so
congruent with what you were creating that you didn't have
to experience negative emotions very often? Right? I'm not going
to say that you can have you know, I know
there's toxic positivity, right, So I'm not going to say
you can always be happy, amazing, joyful every single minute

(08:52):
of your day. However, you can be pretty close. Yeah,
you know, you can be pretty close. And the beauty
of that is the people who think their emotions. Not
only do they think the negative emotions, they think the
good emotions too, And so you never get that true
experience and expression of joy. Whereas when you feel it,

(09:13):
you can't stop it. Like you are jumping around you dancing,
You're excited, and that excitement is felt on a cellular level,
and that is what keeps us healthy. Right, we've got
negative emotion going around in our brain. Then on a
cellular level, we've got stagnant energy staying in ourselves. When
we allow positive emotion and negative emotion to flow through us,

(09:35):
there's movement around ourselves and on a cellular level, we
stay healthier.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
And I know that from firsthand experience. You know, the
more joy I'm in, the more healthy I feel in
allowing that to move through me. And it's so great
because you know, I kind of map it across to
you know, when I have so much joy, I feel
like dancing. Right when I'm angry, I just kind of
But if I'm angry and I hit some pillows and

(10:03):
let it move through me, Yes, like two minutes and I'm.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Done, exactly, And then you don't have to be depressed
for the whole day. You don't have to be angry
for the whole day. You don't have to ruin your
weekend with your partner just because you decided to get
angry and not let it move through you. Instead, you
were overthinking and blaming like that's not necessary.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
My husband is still learning this lesson. It's so great.
I'm all, great, are you going to be mad for
twenty nine hours? Are you gonna be mad for twenty
nine minutes? You get to choose, and I'm going to
support you and whatever that is, right, Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
How much time you want to spend with me, I'll
walk away for the twenty nine hours if that's what
it takes. However, you could do it quicker and we
could actually have a great weekend.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Wait were you there? Did you know? That's exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Definitely something I've been accused of as being in people's
living room in their air conditioning events, because I seem
to know exactly what they're going through.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So how do you define mindset? And why do you
believe it's crucial for personal and professional growth?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah? So this is really interesting because mindset, the word itself,
actually implies stagnation, and I want to dig into that. So,
you know, we all know about fixed mindset versus growth mindset.
Fixed mindset where you know, failure is the limit of
my abilities. In other words, the first time you fail,
you're like, oh, well that's it, that's all I can do.

(11:31):
And then we know about growth mindset, where it's like, okay,
failure is an opportunity to grow. So okay, I'm going
to push past that. Both of those things have limitations.
What I believe in is creative imaginative mind flow. Right,
creative imaginative mind flow. This is where failure is the

(11:52):
desired outcome. And the reason I say this is this
might come as a big surprise to people who have
focused on success. Actually, you cannot know your success until
you know the limits of your failure, right, And so
how can you push so hard in the direction you
choose that you can fail so that you can learn
faster how to do it better?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Wow, Elizabeth, you're dropping bars like this is so freaking mind.
You know I'm sitting here taking nodes still because I'm
a student of life. You know, I'm a student of you.
I'm a student of mindset and creative and manager creative,
imaginative mind flow. This is radical, keep going, keep going, okay.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
So like, if we look at fixed mindset, you're either
I'm good or I'm not good at something. In growth mindset,
we are I can learn to do anything I want
to learn. In mindflow, we're moving into I know how
to do more than I know. Say that again, I
know how to do more than I know. Whoa oh,

(13:00):
Because if we consider that we're only using, you know,
ten percent of our brain at any one time, what
we think we know is far less than what we
actually know. And so if we feel as though we
have to know whether we can achieve something, that's actually
a limitation. We want to know that we know more
than what we know. And that's mind flow, you know,

(13:24):
if we go down to fixed mindset again. In fixed mindset,
people don't like to be challenged because they're challenge they
feel like a failure. In growth mindset, we recognize that
challenges help you to grow. However, in mind flow, it's like,
give me the challenge. I want the challenge and I

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want it fast. In mindset, we fixed mindset, we're jealous
of the success of others. In growth mindset, we're inspired
by the success of others. In mindflow, we believe that
everyone is successful in their own way.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
And this is this is why people pay hundreds of
thousands of dollars to work with you, Alis, Yeah, because
this is this is mind blowing. And it's so simplistic,
the way that you break it down, the way that
you illustrate it in my brain and I too, am
like you. I have a synesthesia, you know, I could
use your audio. And so when you break it down

(14:20):
for me, it breaks open my mind to say, yeah, yeah,
I get it, and it's very digestible.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah. And so we the common phrase is mindset, right. Yeah. However,
we have to be careful of how we use it.
So we want the energetics of the words that we
use to really inspire us to be the best version
of ourselves. And so if I put my position in
a place, if I put myself in a place where
my position is mindset, then it implies that my mind

(14:48):
is set like jello, right, like Jelo is set. And
that however, if you think about jello, like everyone thinks
the little you know, crystals of sugar, you put them
with boiling water, you put it in the fridge. It
then sets, and they're like, that is jelly, right, Like
jelly is or jello is what we do once we've
mixed the sugar with the water and it sets in

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the fridge. But actually, if you left the jello out
for long enough, it would go back to liquid. And
if you let the jello out long enough in the sun,
it would eventually go back to sugar crystals. And so
anything we think is static or set is never really
static or set. You know, when we chop a tree
down and make a piece of wooden furniture, we assume

(15:32):
that that wood is all it can be. Yet actually,
in every second that wood is decomposing, change is inevitable.
Change is always happening. And the key to being the
best version of you is your adaptability to change. In
other words, a thing that we call the law of
requisite variety. The person with the most flexibility will control

(15:56):
their own system. And so the more flexible you can
be as to how you gain success, how you actually
create your life, the better it is. Because if you
give yourself one option and go that success, then you
better be damn good at getting that success. You better
be damn good at that one option, Whereas if you
give yourself multiple options for gaining success, then you're far

(16:17):
more likely to get it because you're far more likely
to go on a trajectory or timeline that is actually
yours instead of someone else's. You know, I'm a multi
millionaire and a lot of people look to me and say, well,
what's your version of success? I have it. I have
a garden, I live on the water, and my boat's
out the back. You know. I have my grandchildren come

(16:38):
around on Tuesday and I look after them. I have
fridays to do fun things like that. This is my
version of success. Do I get to buy nice things? Yeah?
Occasionally I do, and I like being able to do that. However,
is that my version of success? Not really, that's just
kind of a perk, you know. And it's like, what
is your version of success? And how can you use

(16:59):
your or mindfulw to create it the way you want
it rather than being dictated to by others that have it,
Because you know, there are other people who their version
of success is being able to go on holidays four
months of the year. You know, I don't want to
be around along. I don't want to be away from
my grandbabies for that long. Yeah, you know, I like holiday.

(17:20):
I holiday regularly. However, I don't want to be away
from them for that long. So I don't want to
go on a holiday for six months or four months
of the year. Right. So, whoever is dictating your success,
it's potentially creating your failure. In other words, unless you're
allowing yourself to create your own version of success, you're
possibly running someone else's timeline and that's possibly the reason

(17:42):
you're not there. It has to be your own timeline.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
So the first step would be defined, What is your
definition of success? Right? Would you say that?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah? Sure? So my definition of success is, like I said,
it's days with my grandchildren. It's running a business where
I get huge impact with people and their mind and
their body and their soul. Like I impact people on
all three levels, and I love that. My version of
success is having a happy marriage. My version of success
is having children that want to spend time with me

(18:18):
and that I'm able to spend time with. And it's
different for everyone.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
So when you define success, success is what makes you
feel the most joyful in life.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Hmm. Yeah, And I mapped that across to when I
opened this Las Vegas office, I was like, Okay, I
want to be able to take my family to a
Las Vegas show once a month, right, And so I
set that out. I'm like, okay, great, I'm working in
Las Vegas. I get to play in Las Vegas. I

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want to be able to see David Copperfield or someone right,
And so I was praying. I was shooting up my
rockets of desire up to God, and I'm like God,
and I wasn't tied to the outcome. I was just like,
you know what, however, I want this office to take off,
and my definition of success is being able to take
my family to these shows. And so yeah, soon as

(19:11):
I shot my rockets of desire, our neighbors said, hey,
did you know that if you're a veteran you get
to sign up to these vettics and my husbands yeah,
my husband has spent seventeen years in the military, and
you get to sign up to these vettics and each
of the Las Vegas shows set aside a certain amount

(19:32):
of tickets for the veterans to go for free.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah. That's manifestation, right, Like, that's it absolutely working. I
love that you live in Vegas and as soon as
I can trouble over there. And what I mean by
that is, you know, Australia is very far away from
the rest of the world, like we are very very
far away from any other country, and it feels really
safe here, and when we hear about things that are
going on overseas, it's like, Oh, I don't want to

(19:58):
go over there. Let me just stay here in my
nice little pocket of the world. And I remember when
you and your husband were out here and we went
to the markets that day. I had my handbag just
hanging over my arm and your husband was like like,
no one's going to just come run up and steal
your handbag, like and I had it down on the grass,
just sitting beside me, and he's like you, like, does

(20:19):
this not happen I might we live in Australia, Like, no,
that doesn't happen here. And so there's this level of
I guess at the level of this discernment that you
have to use energetically to know when the right time
to go away from Australia is. And so when I
get there, though, I am going there to see circ
Di Siley, Oh oh yeah, Like that is my big

(20:42):
thing I was. I really wanted to go to Vegas
for my fortieth birthday. And this was before I had
this business, right, So just on that you can create
success in a very short period of time. I'm fifty
two now, so when I was forty, I had no money,
Like I had nothing. I was a single mom working
my way, you know, to try and make things happen.
And there was no way I could have afforded even

(21:04):
a plane ticket to Vegas in those days, right, And however,
what I wanted for my fortieth birthday was to be
able to go and see so to slay. Oh, I
am super blessed that it is still running twelve years later,
and you know, and I know that it's going to
happen in the next year.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh absolutely, And when you come, we're going to do
the VIP package because we're a bougie like that.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yes, yeah, yes, and I'm calling.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
In on that. I would love to spend time or
invest a time with you and your husband to do.
Oh it's a fantastic show, but it would be great.
It just relating that back, not being tied to the outcome,
defining your success and what that looks for you. There's
no right or wrong in this game of life. And

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that's why I am so joyous because I really and
you taught me this moving from you know, the effect
of my life into the cause of my life. And
I didn't understand and that when I was I was
taking your NLP course from the States and I was
on Australia time, and you and another coach kept saying,

(22:08):
she's at she's at the effect of her life, and
I was like, Okay, this is garbling goop, you know,
just like when I was joining law school and they're like, okay,
just keep referencing. You know, if you didn't know a word,
a legal word like subpoena, you would pull open your
legal law dictionary and you would map it across. When

(22:28):
I was in your training room, I was like, okay,
cause and effect. What is going on here? And you
taught me that I could be at the cause of
my life, that I get to I get to have
everything that I want and even more like I'm the
thermostat and not a thermometer.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yes, absolutely, you taught me that because you know what,
whenever you put things outside yourself right, so like when
you when you say it's there fault or it's because
of this or this is why I do this. You
give away all of your power to the event or
the person or the thing that you have no control over,

(23:08):
and therefore you have no control when you go Actually,
I created this. I didn't mean to. I didn't want
it to be that way, but I accept responsibility on
some level for it. Then you get to be in
control of your life and you actually have the power
to do something about it. And so being a pause
is a really important thing whenever you find yourself and
for all the listeners out there, whenever you find yourself

(23:31):
out there blaming others or even the weather, Like I
didn't go for a walk today, so I've missed my
fitness goals because it's raining. Well, like your waterproof, you
know you have skin, Like if you're really dedicated to
actually releasing weight, then you go for a walk even
though it's raining. We'll get on a treadmill at the gym,

(23:53):
like you know, people will go, oh, it was really rainy,
so I didn't go for a walk, so I missed
my goal. It's like that being at the effect of
the weather.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
My family is kind of annoyed because I'm always at
the cause. I when I when I travel, and I
uh pick up a coffee mug from the coffee store.
So when I was in Australia, of course I had
to get an Australia coffee mug.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Well, the other day, Uh, my son, my little son,
you know, was washing dishes and he broke it and
uh and you should have seen the look on his face, like,
oh my gosh, my mother had collected these coffee cups
from all of our worldly travels and it broke. And
I immediately I said, nope, it was my fault. You know,
if that coffee mug was and it was the one
from Prague, which which kind of sucks because now well

(24:38):
not sucks because now I get to go back to
Prog and get a cup. But right, so say, and
you know, if that coffee mug was really important to me,
I should have taken responsibility and wash those cups by
hand and put them back into the the cabinet. You know,
it's it's my fault, not yours. And they're like, oh god,
yeah there, you know, they were grumbling and stuff. But
that's how I lived my life. I take full responsibility

(25:01):
for whatever is happening in my field, and It's radically
transformed my.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Life absolutely, because it gives you back all of your
power and lets you decide what happens next instead of
letting the whims of the world decide what happens next.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah great, perfect. So I want to know. I want
to know more about embodied leadership because you help entrepreneurs,
you help executives, you help high level C suite entrepreneurs
move through this. What does embodied leadership mean to you?
And how can individuals cultivate this quality for themselves?

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah? Great. So this comes back to that same thing
I was talking about earlier, where people are thinking their
feelings rather than feeling their feelings. And I want to
take you on an etymology Joenny. So, etymology is the
study of where words started. Right, So, in the beginning,
the dictionary was invented by people all over the world
sending mail in as to what different words meant and

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how they were created, and then then they got a
consensus on what a word meant and then they put
it in the dictionary. Right. So, etomology is the historical
part of the word. So when we look at the
word leadership, we've got two main words in it, which
one is lead laad, and one is ship. Now, in
ancient times, lead was a very very precious material in

(26:24):
terms of building. If we go back to Roman times particularly,
and lead itself used to travel on ships. Now, the
concept of leadership is to send something precious out and
equally the ship would come back with something precious. It
may not be lead, but it might be wheat or

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fruit or whatever the exchange was in those days. So
if you're in true leadership, you are sending something out
that is extremely precious and important and valuable, and you
equally are allowed yourself to receive that same level of
value back. Now, if we're an embodied leader, we know

(27:09):
exactly what we're sending out and we know exactly what
we're receiving back, and it's done very very intentionally. There's
no such thing in that world as hierarchical leadership, right,
If you're really embodied in your leadership, you don't need
a hierarchy because people naturally allow themselves to be influenced
by you know, and so if you're in a position

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where you're allowing yourself to have discernment of what influences you,
then the way that you're going to influence others is
going to be with integrity and in alignment with your goals.
If you're advertising that, then that alignment is visible to others.
You know, if anyone was to go to my Instagram
right now, if they scroll down a little bit, they'll

(27:54):
see a dancing video of myself and my husband and
it was pretty funny. However, So that's actually what was
happening in the moment. You know. It wasn't like, oh,
I need some content, let's film this. You know, what
can we do to make it go off? Like it's
just here we go? You know, if you scroll through
my content, you'll see that I was, you know, a

(28:14):
few months ago, I was at the opera house and
I was actually bashed by a lady. That piece of
content just telling that story, you know, it was went viral.
It got i don't know, four million views or something
like wow. And when you think about that, like, you know,
I hear people all the time go, I really want
a business. I really want a social media based business,
but I don't know what to post. It's that you

(28:35):
don't have to know what to post, just post who
you are, literally be authentically you, because people who are
looking for a leader. In other words, allowing you to
step into leadership. Are looking for the resonance between them
and you. And if you're not truly who you are
and they buy the version of you that you're portraying

(28:59):
instead of who you really are, you'll end up with
dissatisfied customers, which will lead to bad reviews, which will
lead to your inability to continue in leadership. Now this
works in corporate as well. How are you influencing? Like
that is a version of hierarchical leadership, and so that's okay,
you didn't create it, you're just in it. How though,

(29:19):
can you influence rather than delegate? Right, Because if you
have full ownership of your leadership, if you have full
ownership of knowing what it is that you're preciously sending
out and receiving back, then you can inspire and influence
your teams to actually do the same thing, to do

(29:40):
it for the mission. And this is one of the
things that I love about what I do. It's all
for the mission, right, It's I get the perks from it, absolutely,
I get the perks. Yeah, However, it's all for the mission. Like,
I don't do this, you know, I don't get haters
on social media abusing me because that's what I want.

(30:02):
I get that because I challenge their standard. You know,
I'm someone who I don't know anyone else who meets
their standards the way that I do. I show up
time and time and time again because I have a
set of standards. Now that doesn't mean that all my
standards are good. You know, like I definitely forgot to

(30:23):
send you my bio when we were planning this meeting.
You know, well, really what I forgot to do is
tell the marketing team to get it done. So I
didn't actually forget to do it, just forgot to tell
the people who should have done it to do it.
And so then this morning I was like, ah, I
haven't said to that thing. So I'm like scrambling email
half you know, half an hour before we're doing this call,

(30:44):
and it gets done. Yeah. And so with other standards, though,
like when it comes to someone's heart and their head,
I will stay and stay and stay till four o'clock
in the morning if required to get the result, because
I'm absolutely committed to what I do because I know
the wealth of what I offer and I know the
wealth of what I received back.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Oh that's so sexy. I know the wealth of what
I offer. That's so sexy. I love it, you know,
because I remember speaking of wealth. I remember when we
were running our values and you were very bold and
loud and proud and said that one of your top

(31:27):
values was wealth. And my whole body went like, how
could she say that? Right? And so I've always been
a disruptor. That's who I am from the fibers of
my soul. So now I talk about wealth all the time.
I'm like, I want to make a f ton of money.
And I see, because I'm Claire sentient, Claire cognizant, I

(31:49):
see and feel people's body immediately get restrictive because they
can't handle that type of language, right.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, And they retract from it because they don't believe
it's available to them.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
That's right, and it's available to everyone. In relating back
to authenticity, is I have nieche down probably last eighteen
months working more with C suite executives. But they're hiring
me because I'm such in my authentic power. Yes, I'm
quirky and I'm weird, and I, you know, celebrate little
small wins all the time, and they're like, how could

(32:24):
you behave in such a manner. You need to put
on your business suit and you need to be strict.
And I'm like, no, is it okay that we could
play and work at the same time, And They're like, oh,
I've never really thought about it like.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
That exactly exactly. I was literally cleaning out our building
the other day, Like we have a building where we
have like a purpose built facility where we run our trainings,
and there's been I haven't done a spring clean of
it for about a year and a half, and I
was like, I know that there's stuff in here that
doesn't need to be here, and I want a clear,

(32:55):
energetic container as we move into our next training. And
as I was cleaning, I found a five cent piece,
which is I guess, like a dime in America. I
found a five cent piece of the floor, and I
like squealed in delight like a childhood and my husband
like it must have been quite a blood curdling squill
because my husband bolted from the other end of the room,

(33:17):
got there and went are you all right? And I'm like, yeah,
I found five cents. It was like, oh my god.
I like I ran for that, and I'm like, yeah,
it's exciting, like that's a sign that there's more wealth coming.
Whereas most people would see five cents and go. They
might pick it up, but they don't really think about

(33:38):
what it represents. And so our minds are meaning making machines.
We make the meaning of everything. And so how can
you choose in every moment, choose the most empowering meaning?
You know, like finding five cents the most empowering meaning?
Is that means that our business is going to succeed
financially because look how easy it was to get money.

(34:01):
I just found it, you know. So the meaning that
you make from things, you're already a meaning making machine.
How can you be a meaning making machine that actually
chooses the most empowering meaning? M You know, you get
stuck in traffic, instead of going, oh, I'm going to
be late, be like, oh, I actually get time to

(34:24):
rest and collect myself before I running into that meeting.
You know, this is an opportunity for me to phone
my mom. This is you know, whatever you have to do,
you've just gained a whole lot of time.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Absolutely, absolutely, our minds are meaning making machine. Elizabeth and
Walker dropping the bars today. This is so good. That's
why I love it. I love being in your energy.
I love swimming in your energy because every time I'm
with you, you know, I think that I'm an expert in

(34:58):
some things, and then I'm like, oh god, I mean
kindergarten again, Like let's go, Like I get more to learn,
you know, I get to learn more, which your self
fantabolic that that's.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Mind flow in action, right, uh huh, Like I know
I know more. Yeah, And it's just you know, surrounding
yourself with the right people allow you, allows you to
recognize what else you know.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
And how important is it to surround yourself with the
right people.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Well, you know, they say that you become the people
of the five people you hang around. And I'm imagining
that you have some moms that listen to this show.
So if you're a mom thinking, my god, I must
be like my children because I'm hanging around five children,
that's okay, we're not talking about that. Because it's not
just about who you physically hang around. It's who you
energetically hang around, who you mentally hang around. So if
you're listening to podcasts, listening to the radio like this,

(35:46):
then you're hanging around us right now, and you're that
means you'll like us because you're spending time with us, right,
and so you become the five people you surround yourself with.
Is what's the energetic globe that you're surrounding yourself with.
Are you surrounding yourself with people who are flat load
depressed or are you surrounding yourself with people who are energetic,
upbeat and wanting more out of life, because that will

(36:08):
determine what you get out of life.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Hmmm. So true. And I can I feel that now
that you taught me years ago how to be an
embodied leader, I could feel who I'm in residence with.
Even in a line, you know, in the line going
into the show, I'm like, the guy behind me sucks.
He just totally sucks, you know, And there's no really judgment.
It was just like, I don't you know, he may

(36:30):
be amazing, but I just don't resonate because I already
heard him complaining because we were standing, and I'm not
a complainer. I'm like, I'm a yes to life type girl.
I'm so blessed to be here and be on my
mission and help transform lives that this guy was no right,
So thank you for that journey through the etymology of
the word and leadership, and that's that lands for me,

(36:54):
and I'm hoping that it's going to land for our listeners.
If it doesn't, you could replay the recorded here. KT
so great. So let's go. Let's go into that unconscious influence.
You speak about addressing the unconscious mind. How does this
aspect of your work differ from traditional coaching methods?

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yeah? Right, So normally, what we're doing in coaching, and
what people are doing in coaching is looking at a
problem and asking questions of the person in order to
find the solution. However, if the unconscious program is of something,
that means they can't have it. So, like, I'll give

(37:35):
you an example of a person that I coached this morning.
She's a successful Australian coach and she's currently living in
Costa Rica and she's about to do a launch and
she wants to do a three hundred K launch and
she's quite capable. She has the audience to be able
to do that, she has a skill set to be
able to do that, and she's worried that she won't

(37:55):
be able to do it. Now, her underlying belief about
self is I'm not good enough, and her underlying reason
for that is because at multiple times when she was
a child, she was abandoned, like her parents weren't emotionally
available for her. Her brother and sister were really good friends,
and she was kind of left out. So she's abandoned.
She's got this abandonment wound that shows up as I'm

(38:17):
not good enough. And so what we have to do
is disconnect that program at the root level. We're not
disconnecting it now that she's an adult. We're disconnecting it
at the time and through the language and through the
feelings of the child. Now, as an adult, she can
rationalize that her parents had challenges and that that's why
her parents weren't available to her. However, as a child,

(38:41):
she had no idea. As a child, she was just
missing mom and dad. As a child, she just felt
as though no one cared. And so we have to
address the feelings of the child in order to allow
the adult to step into the fullest expression of themselves.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Absolutely, And how is she doing now?

Speaker 3 (39:03):
So she's great, She's about to start the launch and
she's feeling great about it.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, which is fantastic. Yeah yeah, yeah. And then I
think that resonates with me too, because my deep core.
Was that not good enough? That's why I always had
to hustle for my work and do all the things.
And so I finally said, you know what, I don't
need any more certificates. I don't need any more letters
at the end of my name. This is like, can
you just stop already and just believe that you're worthy?

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, it's the same as me. You know, I had
four degrees because I wasn't good enough, so I better
learn some more. Yeah, And then when you realize that
actually it's a mindset piece, not a brain capacity piece,
not an intelligence piece. Right. This is one thing I
love telling people is intelligence is simply the rate of learning.
So a lot of people, a lot of people think

(39:51):
they're dumb. They're not dumb, they just haven't actually worked
out how to increase their rate of learning. And so
if we look at something like AI, which is out
there right now, you know, it has a high rate
of learning and therefore appears intelligent.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Ah, so good.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
However, if we look at AI right now, it currently
does not have the ability to have compassion right right,
because no one's taught a compassion. People have taught on emotions,
but no one's taught at compassion, and so that's a
human quality. We have the ability to have compassion. We
have the ability to choose where we focus our energy,

(40:34):
you know, and that's super important. It makes us incredible beings,
which means that we can all have success as long
as we focus on what we want.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, and my energy is my currency, right, yes, yeah,
Like I have to be really careful. When I started
looking at my calendar, I'm like, why are there several
coffee dates here? No? No, we're not having coffee dates.
I'm very highly motivated, highly focused to grow my businesses,
and I can't allow time to bro coffee, like really,

(41:06):
like I love you and no, that's like me.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
People go, I really need individual coaching, and it's like, well,
to work with me costs a bomb, and so just
come to my training because you will get what you
need in the training and then if you choose to
create success, you'll be able to access me further, you know.
And it's like people are like, oh, but I want
one on one and it's like, sorry, it's not it's

(41:32):
not in my desire to do that low level one
on one. And when I say low level, you know
someone who's just starting out on a mindset journey, come
to my training where training is amazing. It's incredible, you know.
And if you're in the States, stay up, Tisha did it?
You know, like hundreds of people from the States have
stayed up all night to do the training. Is it hard? Yes?

(41:52):
And you know you can do hard things. Possibly your
life's already hard, so you're doing something hard. Really doesn't
make a difference. It just in the right position to
make it easier.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah. And I had to ask myself, how bad do
I want to feel better?

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Right? And you told me in that training my flavor
in the past was sadness. And it was in your
modality ect emotional change technique that radically broke me open
and I was able to get neutralized sadness at the root.
And then I went on to do this exact work
and I'm moving out. It's funny that you say one

(42:28):
on one because I'm moving out of that one on one.
You know. Yeah, it's a lot, and yes, people you know,
to work with me is a lot because I transform lives.
But I want the full Fyes. Like when I showed
up for your training, I was like, Elizabeth, I ad gaping,
My heart is gaping. Wounds. I need someone to teach

(42:49):
me other than this indoctor nation. I need someone to
break me wide open for me to be able to
see that there is a better life for me. And
that's exactly what you did. And so just going down
through those processes really allowed it was a door to
more so pu heart.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I think that's the thing to SWI the work that
you and I do, it's transformative, and it's not transformative
in a motivational way. And what I mean by that
is you can go to a one day motivational event
and you're going to feel great on the day. Yes,
you might even feel great for three weeks, right. However,
it's not going to touch you at that unconscious level.

(43:27):
And so eventually the old program, the old patterning, will
just run its course and you end up doing the
same thing over and over expecting a different result. Some
people would call that insanity. You know, when you step
into one of our room, like even into coaching with
you or into one of my training rooms, you are
actually going to experience transformation or at the unconscious level,
and that pattern will be neutralized forever. You will not

(43:48):
be able to run it. It's like rebuilding a train track.
Your mind can't run down that track anymore. Your mind
goes down the new track. And if you spend enough
time in the old version of you doing the old things,
then sure you may be able to reinstall the track
in the old method. However, you will find that very
difficult because your own voice will be in your head going,

(44:09):
this is not what I want. M It's not okay anymore.
I'm not that person anymore m hm.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
So rewiring that at that root cause is what it's
most important. Yeah, and it really works, and it's like
it's the old paradigm of talk therapy. I realized talk
therapy was keeping me stuck looking at all that other stuff,
and I was like, what is going on? And I remember,
I remember the day that said I am not going
in no bagging on the Woman's Haven. But I remember saying,

(44:39):
I can't go back to the Woman's Haven because they
keep talking about what happened to me, and I certainly
just don't want to talk about that anymore.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah, Because the thing is is your brain can't distinguish
between reality and non reality. So if you keep talking
about a problem, your brain is experiencing that problem as
if it's happening all over again right now. That doesn't
mean you should never talk about your problems. Obviously, talking
about your problems initially to someone who is great at

(45:08):
looking at the problem, finding the root cause, and disconnecting
the version of you that made that problem possible, that's important. However,
if you're going to a therapist where they're just talk
talk talk, talk talk, and you say the same thing
every single week, you know, you turn up there and
they go, how are you going with that thing that
happened to you? And you have to talk about it again,
They're just reinstalling the problem deeper and deeper into your mind.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
And that's why LP integrated in LP is so so
important if you're suffering, if you're going through it, if
you're living in these low negative emotions, like you've got
to get in Elizabeth's room because there's nothing like surrounding
yourself with those people and the high vibe. And I
know it's funny because people are like, oh, you guys,

(45:53):
do is just dance over there?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
No?

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, like, are you guys just dance over there?

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Now?

Speaker 3 (45:59):
You know, there's a limit to what we can put
on social media, so sometimes it does look like on
my social media that if you look at the training room,
it's just all these people happy in dancing, and that's
just what we can put on there. Like the depth
of what happens in that room is indescribable to people. Yeah,
you know, we really get to the core wounds of
what's happened to people. And there's big stuff that gets

(46:23):
released in our rooms and that there's a sacredness around
that that doesn't belong on social media.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Ah, yes, it is so sacred. How I know you
have tons of offerings. Yeah, I know you have tons
of offerings. But if someone wanted to just start, if
they're in that fetal stages of waking up and understanding
and comprehending that there's more and I get to live

(46:50):
a bigger life and I'm stuck and I need help.
What's the first level to work with you? And what
should they do?

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yes, So first of all, they should actually contact me
on social media. So jump onto my Instagram, Elizabeth N. Walker, Underscore, EAWTC,
send me a message because I actually manage my own Instagram.
So I'm the person writing back to you because I
deeply believe in people, so I want to have that connection. Yes,
the second thing is is we have two different entry points, right,

(47:19):
So if you're ready to invest and you can, then
I want you to invest at that level and jump
into our integrated NLP training. If you're not ready for that,
then jump onto our Bloom, which is our women's space,
a really nice, gentle entry point. We have an online
bloom that happens. It happens in the evening Australian time,

(47:41):
which is early morning US time. Perfect if you're in
Pacific standards time, and these kinds of things are totally
available to you. But literally start consuming content. Jump on
my YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
I binge watch you and Katie over there. You girls
are like kill it it or life in it, whatever
you want to call it. But you girls are just
putting out I'm like, why are they even sharing this information?
This information should be at a fee, you know, because
you guys are like giving this information out for free.
If they could just binge watch your YouTube and swim
in your energy a little bit, you could see what

(48:18):
you have to offer to help them get to the
next level. If that's what they want. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, great, okay, good.
So we are here with Elizabeth Ann Walker. She is
a master coach, a visionary. She's a global NLP trainer,
and we have a couple of minutes before we're show

(48:39):
shores up here. What do you want to leave our
listeners with? Elizabeth? I know your heart is as big
as the globe and I just love you so much
and you have dropped so much wisdom and bars into
this Beyond Mindset radio show today. So I'm so freaking grateful.

(49:00):
If there's one thing that you can leave our listeners with,
what would that be?

Speaker 3 (49:04):
In life, there's love or there's fear. The world is
what you make it. You get to.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Choose great to let that land. Thank you again for
your time today. I love you.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Thank you for joining Tisha Marie Kain for Beyond Mindset Limits.
Tune in every Wednesday at four pm as the conversation
continues around mindset, legal insight, and publishing as a strategic
tool for business positioning. Visit Tishamrie Caine dot com or
Caine's Legal Support dot com for more information or to

(49:47):
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