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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What if I told you that everything you know is
just the beginning. Beyond the veil of the ordinary lies
a realm of hidden knowledge, ancient wisdom, and untapped potential,
a place where consciousness expands, reality bends, and the impossible
becomes possible.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You weren't meant to stay asleep. You were meant to awaken.
Open your mind, remember who you truly are, and step
with me Beyond the Frequency three sixty nine. Hey, before
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Speaker 3 (00:56):
Welcome back to Beyond the Frequency three sixty nine. I'm
your host, Caesar Perdama, And folks, there's no introduction leader
for this guest. He's been on the show numerous times,
so I would call him just a returning champion. So
without further ado, Andre Miller the Alchemist three sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Hey, buddy, how are you? Thank you suesor thank you?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I'm well, man, I'm well.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
How are you I'm doing great?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Man, I'm excited about this episode with you. What I
like is that every time that you come on board
on this on on the on the show, you always
bring something new and it's always good I think for
me as a as a host, and also for the
audience that follows both you and I to see the progression. Right,
you talk about and you learn things at some point
(01:42):
in your in your experience, whether it be a few weeks,
a few months ago, and then when you come back
to the show, you get to bring back something new
about what you've learned so far, any any changes, any updates,
and that's what kind of makes it all exciting. So
I'm glad that you were able to take the time
to come back on the show, and I know you
have something interesting and amazing and fantastical to share with us.
(02:05):
So I'm ready to get into it whenever, whenever you are, buddy, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Man, So yeah, you know, as you know, you know,
I've been. You know, I'm an out of body traveler.
I've been those who may be watching us for the
first time, and in doing so, you know, I've been
able to gain my own perceptional wisdom and insights, and
doing so, you know, able to step beyond the veil
and see things. Yeah, And in doing so, I actually
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have been able to I've been trying to figure out
how this place works right as we all make these claims,
as we live on a flat plane of existence where
electromagnetic beings, you know, well, all that's fine and dandy,
but how does it work right? How does do these
things work? What make if we're on a flat plane
of existence? What makes the sun go around right? What
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keeps the Sun in orbit? What keeps the Moon in orbit?
What gives us the moon phases? Is astrology so important?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Still? You know?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
What is gravity? So those are all These are all
questions that I've been asking for the last year two
years of my life as soon as I've got into this,
and I believe I have a pretty solid understanding of
how it works, you know, through several experiences, insights and
downloads and just pure just meditation for hours, you know,
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just trying to really figure this thing out. And I
think I got a pretty good grasp of it. So,
you know, I put together a presentation actually that's on
my website, and it goes over you know, first like why, First,
it goes over why the space narrative is false. How
can we disprove Einstein's theory of gravity?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Right? Why is that false?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Because that's where that's what the whole space model is
made up off. So I get into that, and then
I get into, you know, just really trying to get
people to think for themselves, like, if it looks like
a duck quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Don't
listen to the narratives here because it's all wrong. And
then I kind of get into you know what Nikola
(04:08):
Tesla said in Bill Ny the Science Guy. I really
wish people would understand that this is an enclosed system.
And Tesla said, think in terms of frequency, energy, and
vibration to understand the universe, right, And then I break
down for people, you know, exactly what do we mean
when we say frequency, energy, and vibration, right? And then
I tie all of that into the light spectrum and
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the light how light appears physical, How the light spectrum separated.
Because when we say we step out of our body
and we access more of the light spectrum, what exactly
does that look like? How does that break down? So
I get in to explain all of that to people
so they have a solid foundation, and then I get
into the mechanics of this particular realm in general of
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how it works, the plasma core, the moon, the Sun,
and then I go on to explain how the realms
are separated, and then eventually how I how with using
this knowledge, I'm able to navigate the other side.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So I love it.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Dude, Hey, what a great what a great like appetizer
to what's coming. And if you don't mind, alchemists, I
would like to ask questions as you hit certain points.
So you know, I don't want to like fully interrupt
you as you're in the flow and everything, but if
I have a question about something, hopefully you won't, it
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would be okay to ask you and everything.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. And I'll just present
the mechanics of this realm because I feel like that
that's really important for people, and I'll leave out, you know,
all the other stuff you know about the constructed frequency
and energy and everything.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
But yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
So what I have here is this is the mechanics
of this realm. By this realm, what I mean is
basic Earth. Right, So what we have here we have
a flat plane of existence, and we have a black
core or the black sun. You hear a lot of
times in ancient civilizations and things they refer to what
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we call the black Sun. Well, that is actually the
core of the Earth, and it's not really like what
they say. And then we have the Sun and the Moon,
and what's spectacular is that all three of these are
made out of plasma. You know, the moon is not
a physical place, We're not going there. The Sun is
made out of plasma, and so is the core. So
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that's very important because what plasma is is this the
fourth state of matter. Right, So imagine a gas substance
where it has all these electrons and ion supercharged everywhere, right,
but there's still a framework of where they have to
operate in Well, in plasma, that framework, that boundary is gone,
so the electrons and ions are free to move. And
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a big characteristic of plasma is when plasma is static,
it creates a torreto field similar to a magnet and
that's where we get this Torredo field of the Earth here.
And then essentially what happens is with this Torredo field
that's caused by the black Core, because this is a
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much grander, a much bigger body of plasma, it creates
a magnetic field and another characteristic of plasma is when
it's in a magnetic field, it creates an orbit, and
there's tons of demonstrations for that. So that's the basis.
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So first, you know, we have to understand that creation
is no accident. We are not. This is no accident.
There was no big bane and big bang. And then
you know, somehow out of all the craziness of space
we ended up developing here on this planet and all
of that that is not true. It's no accident. Our
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bodies are intelligently designed, and so is this creation. There
is structure, there is intention, and there is energy flow.
There is containment within this realm that we're in. So
the core, like I was talking about, now, that's the
hidden plasmas, the hidden power source. It's a plasma generator
beneath the plane. It's pure charge energy. It emits electromagnetic
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currents upwards through the center, and it creates the torredal
flow that powers and shapes the entire realm. It establishes
directionally what we call up and down. Without this, there
would be no up and down force because everything is electromagnetic.
Our bodies are electromagnetic. This whole place is built off
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of frequency, energy, and vibration and magnetism. Right now, this
acts as the conductor of frequency for all matter above
this plane. And when I was in this in between
state and the other side kept telling me I was.
When I was trying to figure out how this works.
I kept getting messages it breathes, It breathes, it breaths,
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and I'm like, okay, oh I get it. It breaths.
So when I say it breaths, what I mean is
this is constantly generating energy. Sometimes it generates more energy,
sometimes it generates less energy, but it is all on
a cyclic timescale. Right, So it breaths, and this is
what is going to create the seasons. This is what's
going to create the moon phases. And this is also
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why we feel different as well during this time. And
then I have a video of a thirty third degree
Mason describing this, because this is what this place looks like. Guys,
this is it's about very very accurate as to what
this place is. There's a flat plane of existence.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, so let me ask, let me ask, just make
sure that we're that we're falling. So when you said
this breeds, this like it comes tracks and expands.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Yes, say it contracts and expands.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Okay, so everything, and that's you know, when you look
at when you look at pretty much anything, even a
light source, you can see it kind of like expanding
and then going dimming out and expanding. Everything here in
the in the universe expands and contracts. So that's cool.
And then this, this plasma ball under the realm is
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so if we're talking about for those that understand the
construct and the different realms, are you saying there's one
of these balls underneath each realm? Are there twelve of
these plasma balls?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, eventually there is. I'm actually under the belief that
you can think of it like that. However, I'm under
the belief that there's just one, because actually this ball
is actually how you can transcend. This is actually considered
a stargate too. This is how you would transcend to
the other realms as well. This is where the story
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of Hyperborea comes from North from the North Pole and
things like that, because beings were using this to come
into this realm. So I'm not entirely sure. I don't
have exact clarity on if there's actually twelve separate ones
or if there's just one, and when you can tap
into the frequency of that one, it opens up other realms.
(11:24):
I don't necessarily have all those details, but you know,
hopefully one day I can come back on and I will.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, absolutely, man, I appreciate it. Man, just just asking
questions that I'm thinking the audience will be thinking about
as you're going, all right, continue please thanks.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, that was a good question. That's one of
the questions I still have as well. So the breathing field,
this realm operates on cyclical rhythms at every scale. Light, magnetism,
and biological systems follow predictable patterns. So expansion and contraction
is a universal cycle. This is what causes the day
and night. This is what causes the seasons. Seasons are
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in growth phases, the tides, gravitational magnetic fluctuations, sleep and wakefulness,
emotional and creative waves.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
This all has to do with the energy that this
thing is emitting. Right, So when this this is why
when people say it's a full moon and things are
getting crazy, it's because the core is emitting this energy.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
And I'll get into that more a little bit more,
and then I have a video illustrating how the how
plasma in a magnetic field. How it creates an orbit
around the magnetic field to verify that's what happens when
you have two smaller plasma bodies orbiting a bigger plasma body.
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And it's all magnetism either too. It's not the it's
not the Sun bending space time like Einstein says or anything. No,
this is literally plasma. And we can duplicate all of
this in a laboratory, you know what I mean, something
that you can't do with the actual space model that
we have. Now that that's why it's still a theory,
(13:09):
right yeah, yeah, But understanding this rhythm lets us work
with it and not against it because you know, later
on in the presentation I also get into how you
can implement this into your daily life so you can
live in harmony with your environment. So gravity, gravity is
density and magnetism.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Density determines the direction. Heavier things settle downward into the system,
Lighter things rise upward toward expansion. Everything finds its level
compared to its density. Right, So if less dense things
are going to rise and more dense things are going
to sit.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
At the bottom. Right.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
There's tons of experiments that showcases there You can have water, oil,
and another liquid substance in a cup, and you're going
to see all of those settle at different times.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I actually have a picture of that in the other
section of this presentation. So what we call falling is
objects seeking equilibrium. Higher density moves into lower energy reasons,
just like oil rises above water or helium rises in air.
Instead of a universal polling force, we have structure and
flow that creates the orientation. Down equals towards the field's
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return path, and up equals towards the outward flow. We
experience this as a constant downward pressure because the system
is always circulating inward, right, So that torredo field that
I was talking about is creating it, so it's forcing
it inward. All the energy is inward. That's where we
get the downward pressure from. So density gives it the
(14:51):
structure and the field gives it the direction. Right, So
that's all gravity is. And this again can also be duplicated.
You know, always finds its level. If you have a
helium balloon that's going to rise in the air, right,
you know all those things.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
That's pretty plasma body you were, So that's pretty cool.
So because the field keeps going inward. That's what's creating
our gravity. So anytime we throw something up that that
energy feels always going inwards, and this is what's creating
the gravity or the pull down effects.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, that's awesome, exactly. Yeah. Now,
plasma bodies right in the current. Now, the Sun and
the Moon follow natural cycles that are predictable and rhythmic. Right,
These patterns can be visualized like elements in an electromagnetic circuit.
This whole thing is essentially a circuit. It's like one
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big circuit. And plasma physics labs charge particles naturally form
torroredal flows. Plasma rings lock into motion along magnetic field lines.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
This is all duplicated in science too. Now nature shows
self organizing electrical structures on cosmic scales. These dynamics offer
a symbolic lens for energy flow in our lived experience.
Rhythm and duality, light and dark, expansion and contraction, all
part of one interconnected system. The sun equals the expression,
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the Moon is the reflection. It's a cosmic dance of balance.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Right.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
So, now, as if this plasma core was to expand,
what's that going to do? It's going to create a
stronger field, and it's going to pull the Sun's orbit
because these are all right in an electric circuit track, right,
These are all orbiting around the electromagnetic field. However, when
this is generating more energy, this pulls the Sun in
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more towards the north pole, where we would have summer
in the northern hemisphere. When this contracts and has less energy,
the Sun would then navigate more outwards and we would
have summer in the southern hemispe right. And it's similar
similar concept for the moon phases as well. So essentially
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that's what I just said. You know, as the field breathes,
the sky moves, enter and outer tracks create the seasons.
Energy charge equals the moon phases. It's not caused by
Earth's tilt or shadows. Now the moon phases, the Moon
reflects the energetic charge of the realm. This is why
there is a map of this place on the moon.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Right.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Now, you have this plasma core generating all of this energy.
It reflects on the moon, right, That's how you get
the map on the moon. Now, as the system expands
in energy, the moon appears fuller and brighter as when
there's a full moon. The core is emitting more energy.
(17:51):
So that's the peak outward and emotional and psychic amplitude. Right,
Human behavior are mood intuition. They all rise with this
charge right when it's a full moon because there's more
energy in this realm. Right now, when we have a
new moon, that's the rest cycle. Now it's important to
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have lower outward expression and deeper inward reflection, right because
there's less energy here because we're electromagnetic beings, so we
feed off of this energy right now. The moon symbolizes
the inner rhythm of consciousness. It phases mirror our shifts
between action and integration, expression and restoration, emotion and insight.
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By tracking the moon, we can serve the energetic tides
instead of fighting them. Yeah question, yeah, yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
What what's the Maybe I've never really understood the difference
between a full moon and a new moon?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Do you do? You know the difference between the.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, so, so full moon is this here at the
top picture and then the new moon there actually be
you would actually see no moon in the sky, so
there's actually no reflection of this place at all, you know,
because the record is remais that you.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Were talking about, then goes back to zero. That's reset.
So there's nothing there, I see.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Yep, there's nothing here, yep. And this happens once a month,
once a month. Interesting, okay, yep, yep. And then I
won't necessarily get into the rest of this is this
is astrology, how to implement and everything. But yeah, that's
that's how this place works essentially, man. And it's great
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to know because when you know these things, you can
then implement it into your daily life, right. And you know,
I go on to even talk about how, you know,
like I said before, I explain the light spectrum, how
the realms are separated, how the construct works, and how
I navigate these things once I'm out of my body,
you know. So once you have this knowledge, you know,
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it helps in your everyday life, man, And you can
start doing things to live in harmony with your environment,
you know for sure. And by doing things to live
in harmony with your environment, I mean things such as
when you hear people talk about they like to ground themselves.
When you hear people talk about they like to ground
themselves to the earth, that is a real thing because
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as you've just seen, this whole thing is an electric circuit.
So when you're grounding your feet, you know, you're getting energy,
You're grounding yourself. You're living in conducive with your environment.
Right when you're getting energy from the sun. If you're
grounding yourself and at the same time you get energy
from the sun, what are you doing, You're you literally
getting energy from the core right now. Another way to
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think of this, people think we get the energy from
the sun. We don't. Right, think of a light bulb
when you flip a light that this light bulb right
here right now, if this light was other, is this
the source of the energy. No, the light is not
the source of the energy. The outlet would be the
source of the energy. Well, the core would be the outlet.
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So the sun is not the source of the energy.
It's the you know, that's the source, that's the outlet.
But when you ground your feet, what are you doing.
You're connected to the magnetic field that the core creates.
And when you get energy from the sun, you're also
getting energy from the core. Right, So it's all related.
So doing those things help man, And like I said,
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we're electromagnetic beings. So doing things like aligning your chakras
they definitely help. While you're in the physical if you're
leaving your body, you know, you don't really need that.
But while you're in the physical aligning your chakras, anything
that you can do to conduce electricity will help your
physical body. That's eating less right, because food can clog
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up your system. Detoxifying your body from heavy metals. I
just did an interview with masterpece CEO. He has a
product called Masterpiece that actually detoxes heavy metals from our bodies.
So doing things like that because we're negatively charged, so
when you have metals in your body that gives you
a positive charge, it messes up your whole electric flow.
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Get those heavy metals out of your body, man, you know,
just doing things like that to help you live in
conducive This also ties into why astrology is so important too,
because everything works around the energy of this place. So
while certain things are moving within the firmament, it all ties,
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it all ties to the core the energy. So almost
everything that people say about astrology grounding yourself, all of
that is true.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
And that's why.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
And I love I love that explanation.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And I guess a question that I would think somebody
would be wanting to ask is the outlet the source
of energy, how's that form? Where does that come from?
Is that just just one of those divine things that
we just accept that it's just there?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Or is there any kind of science that you understand.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So there's no signs that I necessarily understand for that yet.
That's I didn't get that far yet. But you know,
if you just think about it, you know, if we're
divine beings and we can just create with our thought forms,
that's just how we thought to design it, right, Like,
when you're in God form, you don't need to necessarily
create something. Even me doing this now, explaining this in
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human terms for people, it's not really necessary because when
you're in God form and you're creating, it's just there,
you know what I mean. So we're trying to use
human terms to describe these things. But if that's what
it takes to get people to realize then you know.
But yeah, so, but it's just it's essentially just plasmas
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to force state of matter, right, So when you just
put a bunch of plasma in there, you know, it comes.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You know.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
That's kind of like asking like, okay, what created the elements?
You know? Right, it's like a tough question.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Right know, absolutely, now I'll just figure it.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I definitely I know that you like, like like we
cover in the beginning, you don't have all these answers.
But this is for folks that are listening and watch
you right right now that really really their foundations, that
three D mindset. So you know, some some people that
saw and listen to your presentation might take it as like, uh,
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the science lesson, So they're trying to ask, you know,
more into it and eRating stuff and not everything in
that is fully science. And like you and like you said,
you are trying to put into human terms to try
to help out people under understand things. But so so
again I appreciate you even just taking the attempt, the
(24:47):
stab at trying to put some of that into into
words I have.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Let's see, I'm.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Interested about there was something that you had mentioned to me,
I think brief fleet offline you says something in regards
I don't know if it was you or if it
was your partner who went to like Antarctica or something
like that and saw something.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, yeah, a.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Little bit about that. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
So you know, me and my partner, you know, we
both leave our bodies and when we got together, we
started accessing our soul records, and in accessing our soul records,
it took us both to a place called Neo Soul.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Now, if you can.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Remember the first time I was on your show, I
was talking about this place, Neo Soul. Right now, she
had an out of body experience and she went back
to Neo Soul as well, and in her experience, she
actually was shown a map and they said she was like,
they said, you know, this is where you come from.
They pointed to these six continents that we know North America,
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South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, and they said, this
is where you come from. And then he went way
over here and he said this is where we are.
And she said, well, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
The ice wall.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
I know that, Like oh yeah, duh, Like yeah, I
know about the ice wall, and yeah, we're over there. Yeah.
So he pointed to the map and then he went
on to tell her about how the civilization started there
and he said, you know, humans actually migrated out there.
So you know, the civilization of Neo Soul is populated
with humans that come from here. However, if we were
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to discover them, they would be considered extra terrestrials to us, right,
because they don't come from these lands. However, I can
tell you because I was there, they are just like us,
just like us, man, and you know, yeah, and so
they started the civilization there as after the ice wall
was put up, you know, some humans escaped and started
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a civilization there, man. And Neo Soul is one of
the most advanced places I've seen humans in for sure. Like,
so you're familiar with the resets, right, the Great Flood,
How this place has been reset. Well, imagine if humanity
was never reset for the next three to five hundred years, right,
(27:09):
Imagine how advanced we would be from now. That's like
what Neo Soul is.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Like.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Okay, so wait, you're you're saying, let me make sure
I understand this part. There's two there's two things that
there's two comments that you made. One you mentioned about
the ice wall was put up, Like, what's your understanding
of that? Was was there? From what you understand, was
there a flash freeze tilting of the of the planet
(27:38):
or whatever the case is, or was the wall literally
put up to set to separate these these two areas
of the of the of the plane.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
What's you understanding, So.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
It's not it's not a natural occurrence for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Same with deserts. Deserts aren't natural.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Man, I don't know exactly. I don't have necessarily have
all the details on what happened yet, but I do
know one hundred percent that it was put up for sure.
And I do know that one hundred percent. Yeah, Like
it was intentional to do that, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Dang, that's that's wild, just to think about that, like
you know, like, like you said, it was intentional. So
with every intention, there's a reason, So it'd be interesting
to know what the reason was, right, And then I'm
also wondering, and this isn't really a question that you
wouldn't know the answer to unless you have a thoughts
(28:30):
on it. But I'm wondering also when these resets happened
on our side, did they even effect lands on the
other side of the ice wall?
Speaker 1 (28:41):
What don't you think?
Speaker 4 (28:42):
No? For sure, No, the resets only take place here
within these six continents, Yeah, nothing else.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Why do you think just here though? It just happens.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Essentially, it's an experiment, you know, and from the human perspective,
you know, it seems evil and stuff like that. But
from a greater perspective, you know it works. However, I
will say that the creators of.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
This place do not like it.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Nobody does. Once you're outside of an incarnation and you're
back and so forth, nobody likes what's happening here. That's
why we come back. That's why I'm here, you know,
that's why you know, all of us come back to
try to stop it.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Right.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
But when you're in the human form, or if you're
in another incarnation, like let's say you're an et for
an example, and you have control and greed within you
because you're in a physical vessel, those are the reasons
that create this place right when. But when you uh,
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but when you step out of here, man, and you
go back home to the other side, and you see
everything and all is revealed to you again and you
see what's going on here, it makes you angry. And
then that's why people come here for an incarnation to
try and help to try and wake this up, to
try and fight the system.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Essentially, that's yeah, what what is what do you think
from your understanding?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
What is the system? Right?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Like, we know, these souls we leave and we come
and we come back to try to help, Like you said,
fight the system, But what is for folks that are Again,
I'm just trying to I'm trying to embody the people
that are listening and watching, They're trying to ask these questions,
what's the system?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
What do you mean by that from your understanding?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
So, by the system from my understanding, I mean the
monetary system, the government system, the control structure. You're the everything, man,
the religion, the food, the literally the entire system. And
when I say the system, I mean everything here. The
people in control do not need to be in control here.
And that goes for every line, every every fashion of it.
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I don't care at what level, none of none of
that needs needs to be taking place at all.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Now that's wild man, that's it's it's wild just to
know that there are these entities, these other souls that
just decided to, I guess, take the opportunity, take advantage
of the other souls are here in forgetfulness and do
what they do, you know, control and uh keep on controlling.
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It's yeah, it's unbelievable. What do you what do you
think from your understanding? What do you think happens to
these entities that are in control?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Right?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Right now or trying to stay in control. What do
you think is going to happen to them when they
return home? Fully, I mean, is there something karmic dead
They're gonna have to pay for it.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, They'll be in deep pain and regret. There's no
there's no karmic that however, they will feel it. Once
you return home to unconditional love and you're stripped free
of everything that you need here, that's one of the
hardest things. That's still going to be the hardest life
review they ever have, you know, because now, the thing
about life reviews is when you step out of your
physical body and you no longer have to worry about pain,
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You no longer have to worry about suffering, You no
longer have to worry about money, You no longer have
to worry about any of the things that humans think
are important.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Right.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
We all think all of these things are important, and
that is what fuels a lot of our decisions, right,
the scarcity mindset, this survival mode, that's what fuels a
lot of our actions. But when you're stripped out of
that shell and you no longer need for anything, and
you're just your pure soul, your pure consciousness, and you
see yourself acting because of the illusion of scarcity, because
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you felt you needed to do something for monetary gain,
or because you felt you needed to do something for
any of those reasons. Here that we live by. Once
you're free of this and that no longer applies to you,
that pain hurts so bad, And that hurts bad for
an average individual who just might be like, oh, no,
(33:00):
I didn't give that man a dollar because I only
got five, right, But you didn't know that man really
needed a double cheeseburger from McDonald or something. You know
now that would hurt you, or so imagine if you're
doing that to millions of people, billions of people. Consciously,
you consciously know that this is a game. You consciously
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know what you're doing, and you're doing it anyways. That
pain is gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
And that's the part from a human understanding, that's the
part that's kind of like it's mind blowing, because, like
you just said, you consciously are aware that you're doing this,
and you know that you're going to have to feel this,
this horrible pain after all it's all done. Why would
you make that choice? You know, it's just I don't
(33:54):
I don't understand that.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
You know, the illusion of control runs deep. I will say,
some people come here to play that character. To you know,
this is the relevant dully. Some people come here on
purpose to play that character. However, some of it is
not that, you know what I mean, it's just the
illusion of control. Man Like if you know, it's the
same way like when people learn all these skills and
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oh you can leave your body and stuff like that.
Now somebody comes and says, oh, dude, I'll give you
a million dollars if you do it for me or
something like like some shit like that. That's that's like,
you know, would you do that for a million dollars
even knowing all the things you do, like some people
would you know? So that's that's it's really that simple,
(34:39):
you know. So what would you do for the illusion
of control, for the illusion of power here? And how
do we get that illusion of control and power through
monetary gain? It all has to do with money, because
money gives us the illusion of control and power here.
For sure, you made a great point about the illusion
of control. You know, being omnipotent beings, we can't control
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one another too. So to make a choice intentionally to
want to have the illusion the experience of controlling others.
I mean, I guess without putting a label on it,
because now I just I just I just kind of
stopped my myself here.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I was going to put a label on it and
just say like, that's horrible. But at the end of
the day, you and I know that these are just labels.
It's an experience. It's just an experience. We we look
at it with the moral human mindset of that's bad
based off of our belief system and our understanding and
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and everything that we that we think that we that
we know this is good and this is bad. But
if there is no good or bad, if it's just
the experience, then I guess they're doing what they what
they wanted to do, and and in.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Some level it's okay. I guess.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
From that so.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
It is all just an experience. Man. At the end
of the day, it's just a game. I call it
the game on life, Caesar, because I can promise you, man,
when we're sitting on the other side and we're sould
say we're outside of this entire universe, Caesar, this is
how you can think about life on Earth, right, This
is how everybody here can think about life on Earth.
Say me, and you say, we're outside of this universe,
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this construct whatever name you guys want to call this
place that we're in, I can tell you it's not
a universe. So it's definitely a construct or creation. But
say we're outside of here and we're just hanging out, man,
we're just having a good old time. You're showing me
something that you built, and I'm just hanging out right,
and I'm like, yo, Caesar, I heard that they got
this new construct we can go into. But you got
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to forget everything, man, it's this place called Earth.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I heard.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
It's crazy. You got to forget everything that you know
to be true and you just got to start over. Man,
And you have all these limitations, like you die, and
you'd be asking me like death, like what's that? And
I'd be like, it's this crazy concept on Earth Earth, Man,
you got to check it out. You want to do it?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Like yeah, why not?
Speaker 4 (37:03):
And then we get here and it's a ride.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Man. I like I like that.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I like that part that you just say, well, you
just breathed out, like man, that's that's actually that In
more than the words that you said, that sound has
so much like intention and emotion behind it that we
all we all understand it.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
It's like, man, what a what a great example that
you just give.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
We're out, we're out there, and you know, we hear
about this experience that we probably some folks, some souls
have never had. We make the choice, and so okay,
I know it's I know this is gonna be a
tough one and there's probably gonna be times while I'm
having this experience that I want to.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Get out, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
But but then you have your what we call here
in the human experience, are guarding angels and you know whatever,
you know, things beings out there that out there to
remind us you're not done yet. You're you know, like
keep going, keep going, keep going. You know, they're helping
us fulfill this experience in it in its entirety, however
(38:11):
long that may be and stuff. So what a cool
way to just to just see that and understand that
it's an experience.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah, because because the same way I said, hey, we're outside,
that's that's the example if we both decided to come
in here. Now, this is how you can think of
spirit guides guys. Now, imagine me and Caesar we're talking like, oh,
there's this new experience called Earth, but I got to
forget everything. Man, I'm a little scared, yo, Caesar, why
don't you stay here while I go in and then
if I need help, you can help me. Caesar be
(38:43):
like all right, man, Yeah, that's your spirit guy.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
That's that's all it is.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
It's not so magnificent being or something. That's just your
friend from the other side that stayed out. Well you
were in to assist you in the game. Yeah, you know,
love it, man, it yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Man.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
It's it's like it's like, let's use another game example.
We're playing an online game. I'm going in and in
this online game, I'm playing the character, but you're like
you're watching me play the game, but you're assisting me,
like saying, hey, here's power ups here and here's coins
(39:24):
over there, and you know, like if I need if
I might playing the game, I need you to go
find some cheat codes and everything, and you're you're doing
all the administrative you know, oversight, you know, for me
because you're helping me complete this.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Game, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, So anyway we look at it and stuff. I
love all of it, and it makes it when you
think about it in that manner, it makes it a
little bit more digestible. That's awesome, dude. I love the
I love I love I love the game.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Analogy.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Andre, I remember a while back you had this is
like a months back, when you were still learning things
as you've as you've been doing all this time, and
you had this whole example of like I think you
use the whole.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Like football analogy.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Let me ask you this from that, from that time
frame when you had that understanding at that moment to now,
has that analogy changed for you?
Speaker 1 (40:24):
No, not at all, Not at all.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yeah, that same analogy still is still applicable for everything
that I know.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Like when you leave your body, when you cross this
electromagnetic threshold that keeps the frequency out, that keeps information
out of this realm. When you leave the firmament and
you reach a higher realm, your memories come back. You
start to remember creation, You start to remember how this
place works. Like I'll say I'll say this. I never
said this publicly, but one time when I came back
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from a out of body experience, I felt like I
had so much knowledge of how this place was built.
I felt like I was one of the ones that
made it. Now, that's how much information can come in,
right from an out of body experience. So when you
have these experiences, man, you just understand so much. And
where that analogy came from was I was like, damn,
(41:12):
I know all this. How can I explain it to
my friends? You know? And at the time, you know,
I was just I was like, I had some other friends. Man,
I'm like, how can these guys you know know, like
I know they like Madden, I know they like football,
I know they played video games, So let me try
to break it down that way for them, you know.
That's where that came from.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, it was, it was, it was. It was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Now I'm only just ask and you probably don't have it,
but just ask you anyways, do you do you have
that setup where you have the white board where you
can just do something like that right now or now?
Speaker 4 (41:45):
I don't, Man, I don't. I wish I did. I
wish I did. As you know, I'm traveling, that would
have been great. I would have loved to explain the
mechanics on a white board. Yeah, that's my thing. That's
the best way to explain to people. Yeah, alway.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
But either either way, if folks want to see that,
then go to your to your page and ey thing,
which will have the link obviously on the description already
if people if people don't already know where to find you.
But it's definitely a pretty interesting and fun entertaining watch
as well. Get your thinking stuff.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Yeah, and that and that video where I'm explaining on
the whiteboard that just details realm one. I actually wrote
an entire game of life thesis that details every realm
like this whole universe and construct and compares it to
video games to you, that's on. I got that on
my site. If you know, it's a good that's a
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good read too. I think I think these analogies really
helps put these things into perspective for people, you know,
because when you think of creation in the universe, it's
so massive and you think of it as just this big,
grandiose thing. But then when you can relay it to
somebody in a format that people can relate to, it
kind of helps break down the grandiose of it, you know.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, andre are there are You've been hearing
a lot, We've all been hearing a lot in the
Estaire community about something BIG's coming, big change, and you
know where everything will be revealed to us.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
What are your thoughts on that mindset and that statement?
Speaker 4 (43:26):
You know, Caesar, I honestly believe you know that statement
and that mindset is spot on. You know, all these
people are connected to the other side. You have intuitive psychics,
mediums or whatever you want to call them, people that
are intu and you have out of body travelers, near
death experience. Everybody is channelers. Everybody is saying the same
thing right now. You have to ask yourself, if everybody
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is saying the same thing, do you think we're lying?
You know, the chances are very not likely, right so,
you know, and without even getting into too many details,
I will just yes, that's stef certainly where we're headed, man, certainly,
you know. I just I'm telling you, I just went
to be on the ice wall, and I'm saying, Yo,
there's humans over there. You know, you guys can leave
(44:14):
everybody and see you like they're hiding this stuff. You know,
So you know, with more stuff like that coming out,
you know for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
That's that's I mean, I know that thought alone about
there being humans on the other side of the ice
wall is a topic that's going to get people. Just
really just wanted to ask more so, and I know
you can't answer all these questions, I know, you know.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I know also that experience was mostly your your partners
regarding that particular story. And also you know, hey, if
you can, if you can throw in a good word,
I would love to have her on the show. We'd
love to have both of you on the show together
or just her, whatever it is, So hopefully you can
make something like that happen.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think she you open to
coming on for sure. I could come on with her too, Yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah, that'll be all to get into. Yeah, yeah, how
do you guys have the opportunity? So you guys have
traveled together or so far as it's been independently.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
You know, so we haven't traveled out of our bodies
together yet. It's been independently. We have tried a couple
times together with no success. But you know, certainly, you know,
and we're isolated right now, but certainly when we when
we get back to practicing, we certainly will for sure,
for sure. That's one of our intentions is to travel
and meet up and to come back and tell people
(45:37):
how we did it, you know, so other people can
meet up out of their bodies, you know, find techniques,
things to help with meeting up, you know, so other
people can meet up. Because I know that's a big thing.
A lot of people will feel like they want to
leave their body, but they're scared and if they knew
they could do it and meet up with somebody that
they know from this life. I feel like, you know,
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that would help a lot of people. So we're definitely
gonna try that.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
What a great idea and what are that's I think
that's what I would call the sauce.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
That's the piece there.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
You know, a lot of people it's already it's already
scary for folks to step into the unknown on their own,
even though you know, in the grand scheme of things,
we understand that you're never alone. But just for the
context of this, of this explanation, a lot of folks
feel like they're alone when they step into the other side,
or in this case, when they.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Leave their body. But to have the mindset or the knowing.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
That there's something that they are familiar with in the unknown,
I think that's attractive to people because it's like I'm
going to this big you know, people are imagining this
big world like they're thinking this whole different situation but
which which they're not familiar with. But there's gonna be
my friend or my loved one, or my partner or
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family member, whatever the case is, it's going to be
there and we'll be able to explore this unknown together.
I think that if one day you and your partner
are able to come back online and just explain to folks,
give them some kind of hope that hey, this is
how to do it. At least these are some of
our steps that we took to get to that point,
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I think that's going to encourage a lot more people
to step into the outer body experience.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, man, Yeah, I think for sure,
because you know, people ask me all the time, hey,
can you come get me and meet me up? You
know I necessarily won't, but if they could find somebody
else that can leave their body and that would love
to meet up with them, I really think that that
would help them, you know, be able to achieve this, yeah,
and overcome that fear.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yeah awesome, I love it. Well.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Andre, As we wrap things up, I definitely look forward
to having you back on so again, thank you for
your time, and I want to ask you, is there
something that you'd like.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
To leave with the audience before we roll out. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
I just want to tell you, guys, you know, a
lot of times in this life we feel alone, we
feel lost, we feel as if we don't have all
the answers you know, and a lot of people are
seeking something right, seeking something outside of themselves, whether it's validation,
whether it's money, or seeking an out of body experience
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to get out of here, or whatever it is. I
just want to tell you, guys, don't seek anything. All
the answers are within you. You are made of love,
You come from love, and you will return back to love.
This is just a temporary experience and everything will be
all right.
Speaker 1 (48:42):
Love it, man and folks.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
If this episode got you thinking, share it common below
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I always want to remind you that I love you,
I see you, I hear you, I am you. Continue
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to ask questions, don't be afraid to pull back the
current and take a deeper look.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
Push forward, always reaching beyond the frequency