Voices of the 369 Collective: OBE’s, Mindsight & Parallel Realities | LIVE Panel 11.12.25 - Beyond the Frequency 369

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We live in that in multiple realities, and which means
that there are multiple versions of wards that we live
timultaneously concurrently. Why that is, you know, I wouldn't have
an answer, but I think that we exist multiple places

(00:21):
at one time, since that they did said it's aw
a dining set in the house that was not there.
When if you're not out of the body, if you're
just here. So we've got to tell us that there
are multiple realities that we live through.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
We are going live. Let's give us some folks some
time to catch up. Yeah, let's get focused, some time
to catch up here while or we get things gone.
We'll give We'll give folks about two or three minutes,
two or three minutes to just kind of get on
the live, jump in, get relaxed. If you need to
grab some some popcorn or a drink, have at it.

(01:03):
You have that time now, So this would be good. Hey, Kennedy,
what's up? Thanks for joining, Thanks for joining. It's gonna
be a fun one, all right. Let's see here. And
in the meantime, while we're waiting, I'm just getting a
couple of things squared away. Make sure we are looking right, okay,
So we'll give folks. About another minute, we'll get that.

(01:24):
We'll get that going. Hey, Loretta, thanks for joining us.
Just getting focus some time to jump on because we
have different time zones. I'm at six thirty well right now,
six forty two pm Eastern time. So giving the different
time zones, some peoples are a few minutes, you know,
a few minutes difference here. All right, all right, let's

(01:44):
do this all right, start hearing about thirty thirty seconds, folks. Now,
I appreciate you guys being patient and grass and water.
Because we are doing a live panel tonight, you guys
are probably thinking, where's the panel people? They are backstage.
They are backstage, so they'll be coming on here soon. Okay,
So just in that way, we don't have any more
dead air. I am going to just start off, so folks,

(02:08):
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(03:33):
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(06:07):
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six nine. Fantastic. Hope you guys enjoyed that. Let's see
here first again, Kennedy, thanks a lot for joining the live.
Appreciate you being here, Loretta, Michelle, Carlos, what's up guys again,
thanks a lot for joining, and everybody else you guys

(06:29):
are up there, thank you for joining and being part
of this first episode that we'll be doing. That's a
live it's an actual live panel. So I'll introduce you
guys to those guests here in a second and gave
my bearing straight here. All right, so let's do this, Okay,
all right, folks. Anyways, like I said, welcome back to

(06:49):
this another episode of Beyond the Beyond three sixty nine,
the live current where we're going beyond the guests. We're
doing it live, and you guys are the current because
you're engaging right live and in color. But folks, tonight's
a special one because for the first time ever on
this show, we're hosting a live panel, not guests, not experts,

(07:09):
not creators, but the people who help build this community
from day one. So these two individuals have been longtime supporters, subscribers,
active voices in the chats, and some of the very
first members inside are newly formed Discord community, the three
sixty nine collectives. So they aren't just viewers. They're the
foundation part of what we call the first twelve within

(07:33):
the within the community, the organization there. And tonight they're
joining me live cameras on Energy High, ready to explore
some big topics with all of you and all of
the above. Okay, so let me actually start bringing them
here onto the show. Let's see here we have Cassandra there,
and we have Christina, and let me change my layout here. See,

(08:00):
guys can see us better? Cool? Is that better?

Speaker 1 (08:02):
There?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Awesome? Okay, so yeah, so we're gonna do this. Me
make sure we got see. I have to also and
I only have to host, but I also have to
manage all the background stuff. So I'm glad you guys
are bearing with me, and you guys can see can
see that Cassandra, I think for some reason it like
took your video and it went there you go awesome there?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Okay, yeah, I was like cooling around, but say it.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
But let's go go awesome. So all right, before we
dive into the deep stuff. I want all of you
watching to get a sense of who these amazing souls are.
This is their first time on camera, so we're gonna
ease into it with some simple questions, no pressure, folks,
nothing heavy. This space is just for you to kind

(08:47):
of introduce your yourselves. So Cassandra, before I ask you
any any big questions, right, small introduction? Who are you
for folks? Right?

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Where you?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Where are you from? And like what what brings you
to these type of topics?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Okay, Well, I'm from Regina, Saskatchewan, kind of a weird
place name, but yeah in Canada. I'm a mom of
two and administered during the day, but just kind of
had some weird experiences. Have always been super open to
anything supernatural or just out of the ordinary. And then
I found myself here and found you. So I'm really

(09:24):
happy to be here and just to share my experiences.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Love. I appreciate Cassandra and Christina. What about you?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Hi there. So I'm also a mom of two. I'm
a psychiatric nurse practitioner, so that's my daytime job slash
me and a mom. But all of this world here
is like my hobby, my go to fun, fun stuff,
not in agreement with my husband, he wouldn't find this
as interesting. So it's nice to have this community of
like minded people that I can kind of vent to

(09:54):
and get ideas out and bounce back back and forth on.
So I'm excited to be here. And my wakening journey
kind of started early this year, so it's been fun.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, I appreciate Christina, and yeah, I am so happy
to have you guys come and join me because you know,
I can get on here and I can talk about
my thoughts, you know, all day, right, and then I
can bring in guests, you know, who aren't considered like experts,
but they are more familiar with these topics because they
practice and things like that. What a lot of us,

(10:25):
to include myself, what we want to hear is from
people like you, you know, people who are also interested in
these same topics, but you don't have a title of
I'm an expert of this or I've done that. But
your voice matters. You know, your input has value to it.
And I wanted to create this live panel, this platform

(10:46):
so you guys have a moment to just express yourselves
talk about the topics that you on a day to
day hear someone else talking about. But now people are
going to hear you talk about those same topics, So
you guys ready for all that awesome awesome and folks,
we also we did have a third person that was
going to join us. He couldn't make it today and

(11:08):
things happen, and that's fine. So Ebenezer, if you're out
there and you're watching for in some fashion, we love you,
we miss you, and we'll and we'll talk to you
on the next panel. Okay, So I just want to
make sure that we recognize him on that. So all right, Consandra,
let me ask you something. What pled you into this
world of consciousness like ancient knowledge and everything that we

(11:29):
explore on this show. What made you say, yeah, these
are my people.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
When I had my experience in February this year, I
saw a frozen person for over three minutes while I
was driving, and I was like stopped so I could
see them. And that's really what made me just start
going down this rabbit hole of like Egypt, and you're Noaki,
I don't know, just frozen time. I'm just so yeah,
I'm loving it all.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, yeah, just go right here. You got to tell
us a little bit.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Thank you, Christina, that's about say, Cassandra, go for it,
because I think we all want to know this. I
go for it.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah. So then I guess after I started going down
the rabbit hole, then that's when in August I started
seeing these orbs and I thought they were just moving stars,
but I like really watched them close and started documenting
them and then communicating with them, and then here I
am now, and I'm just like it's really opened up

(12:27):
my eyes to like what is possible and what is
out there.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
And Cassandra, before you even continue with the orbs deal,
I think we're I think we were referring to when
you said something about watching somebody freeze and tie. Oh wait, hold.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
On, actually yeah that was kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Actually I think Ebeneze is coming in. Hang tight, and
Ebeneze are in here?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yay make it?

Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yeah? Well everything okay, so everything is carved. So so
I'll talk though I'm lying Illinois. And then I was
thinking that you.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Either if you I gotta, I gotta, I gotta interrupt
you if you can hear me. There's a lot of
lag and you're also live. So I'm wondering if if
is there a way that you can kind of kind
of tweak your internet a little bit or something. There's
there's a whole lot of lags. We're getting a lot
of fee feedback.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, yeah, sure, let me come over.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's all right. If you're if you're asking if if
we can, if it's better, I think it is, say
something else.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Let me see. Let me come in to the mobile phone. Okay,
let me say to get them better, just connect from it.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh here, I'll take care. I'll take care of that.
Let's see here and let me use these better. Actually, yeah, yeah,
let me I'll take you out here. Okay, all right,
I took I took him out of folks. See, folks,
this is what happens when you when you're alive. You know,
we got to take care of we got to take

(14:04):
care of business. But let's definitely do give Ebenezer an
opportunity to join us, because he definitely has some great
topics and we've been talking to him on the discord.
He's just a great, a great guy. So we'll we'll
be you know, patient with him, and I hope you
guys can also be patient with us too. But hopefully
in the meantime, Sandra, let's talk about this person that

(14:24):
you saw frozen in time, and then if Ebenezer comes in,
I'll just kind of like go like this or something,
so you'll so you'll know that just to pause for
a second so I can condiment. Okay, go for it.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, So this was really strange. I was driving in
the area I grew up in. I still live in
this area, and I've gone down that street thousands of times,
and I went to turn and there was like a
man with a backpack, a hoodie and jeans holding a
Tim Horton's coffee cup, but his hand was out and
his leg was like he was mid taking a step,

(14:58):
so it was like his leg was up and midstep,
so it wasn't like he was just standing or walking,
and it was completely frozen. I was like incomplete shock, obviously,
because that's not something you see every day. And I
saw someone across from me turning and he didn't seem
to look at him strange or anything. So I ended

(15:19):
up having to turn. I couldn't just stand there like
in my car any longer, but I turned, and then
I still kept looking at him in the rear view mirror,
and he was still frozen until I got three blocks away.
Then I couldn't see him any longer, but it was
at least a three minute gap, and I was like, okay, wow,
maybe the universe is trying to speak to me.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Wow, I and Christina, I want to hear your thought
on what she just said. But I have to ask
a question for the skeptics out there. Couldn't this person
possibly been doing one of those like Mannequan challenges where
they got to stay still for a while or something.
He's just doing it in public, I know.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Like that's the only thing that I guess would make sense.
But he have to be like trying to just take
his first step off the sidewalk while holding a cup
of coffee and still for like really long time, so
like there was no one else around, like you know,
like watching him or making sure he was staying still.
So it's like, this is really strange. But of course

(16:17):
you want to try to think of things like why
would that have been happening? Or did you even see that?
Or you know, like your brain wants to think of why.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Hold on on one second, let me try to bring
Ebenezer in. Don't don't lose your thought on that.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
One, Oh for sure, for sure?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Okay, how is there now.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Is it better?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah? I think it is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Yeah, he can hear you.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Awesome, awesome, But you see me, yeah, we can see you. Yeah,
and we can hear you. Everything seems to you.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
The black screen for me, but that's okay.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I can still see a black screen for you. Christina.
What about you? Can you see him?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Okay, because I'm probably I think I think it's going
to work.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, yeah, okay, as long yeah, as long as you
can see him for right now, that's good. But we
can all see him and it's feeding in through the
through the live so so I think we'll just play
with it and see how that goes. But Ebenezer, again,
thank you so much for joining us. Man. We were
we just kind of barely just started ninety deep dive questions.

(17:19):
We were just kind of getting to know each other. Okay,
So Cassandra was just giving us a little rundown of
of a of a of an instance that had happened
to her, and we were just kind of going to
rift off of that. But let me let Cassandra finish
her point and then let's have you kind of introduce
yourself to the audience. All right, Cassandra, you want to
finish your your story.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, I just it just would have been hard to
figure out what it was like. Of course, I did
tell two people at work that I trusted and was like,
I feel like it was a glitch in the matrix,
Like what do you guys think? And they're like, because
we deal with a lot of addictions at my work
is one of the things we deal with, So they're like, well,
I think that person was just on drugs and frozen,

(18:00):
like due to the drugs. And I was like, I
really don't think that that, like is possible. But okay,
I mean I'm not a doctor, I'm not a nurse,
so I mean, who knows. I mean I think maybe
some people just have to grasp but something that they
don't understand that they can't explain.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, yeah, Christina, what do you think about her frozen
man on the street deal?

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Just skeptics out there? Were you on anything?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
No, no, yeah, I was completely sober. So yeah, I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
It was other people around, sorry, mineus the one behind
you right, the car and so nobody.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, there was a car in front of me and
just cars that were coming down the street so that
they were going so fast, like just driving, so it
was like no one that I could verify with, even
with me in the car, Like it's just myself, and
like even my husband's like, well I believe you, but
I mean, you know what I mean. But I believe yeah, yeah, yeah,

(18:59):
which is understandable. I don't know if i'd feel the same.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, Ebenezer, Cassandra would just telling us that she was
driving and basically saw a man frozen like about to
walk and cross the street and didn't move. Everybody was
moving around him except for him. So we're just trying
to figure out, like what what could that have have been?
So that's what we're trying to figure out here, all right,
So Ebenezer, let me, uh, let me give you an

(19:23):
opportunity to kind of give the folks, you know, a
little bit of an idea of who you are and
where you're from and kind of what what brought you
into the whole esoteric topic and conversations just in general, you.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Know, awesome, awesome, Hi guys, Hi, Priscilla hypersandrap. So Maybeinizer
as we early know, So I was wanted in NIGERI yeah,
but I grew up in New York and I think
the past two years or so, having very curious about
the natural reality, who we are, where we came from?

(19:58):
What mixed while we heat? Who is God? You know
where did God came from? And then God came to be?
I just something arose in my consciousness and I had
to like look at things from a different perspective. Now
I came from from hourly does background. I was going
to Baptist and I've always I've always used to like

(20:19):
church and all the organizial region settings. What I thought,
there's more, There has to be more, right because everything
seems so simple, seem so plain, and one has to
die deeper beyond the stuff is to understand what is existence?
What form source? The biggest question for me is who

(20:40):
is God? You know where did God came from? Now
everything has an origin, right, And I thought a questioning
pains about everything that has to do with you know, reality,
life as we know it. Away in the metrics. I
will not in the metrics, you know. I think, of
course probably find out now that we're actually in the

(21:02):
matrix and want to know, you know what the purpose is?
You know why? Why? Why? Why? Why did we come
took her?

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (21:10):
What are we here for? And we we direted all
the journey began, and that's why I handle is the
universe and be young. So so I want to be
able to dive into all of these things. I want
to be able to find out posthand in an obe situation.
Are still working on it, but but I haven't open mind,

(21:33):
and I'm willing to like taking whatever tend just out
of curiosity to find out. You know, why we're joining here.
So that's brought me into the whole you know, uhotype situation,
your online you want to see I've listened to. I've
watched a lot of OLBE podcasts over the years, and
I've watched a lot of NDI podcasts over the years too.

(21:56):
Now find it fascinating, you know what people find out
and what they came back to report. And I want
to be able to at please find out myself you
know when I can. But I want to get to
the bottom of pains. And that's that curiosity has led
me to while we're here.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, Ebaniez, I appreciate that. And I'll tell you what, Man,
A lot of that curiosity that you have, those same
questions is shared among so many people. We all have
those same questions. We all have that sense, the same curiosity,
and what makes it rewarding in some sense is that
when we find a community like this where people are
asking the same questions, the heavy load isn't always just

(22:35):
on you to find the answer, you know, because through Cassandra,
through Christina, through myself, and through you, we all are seeing, hearing,
sensing different things, and we have a conversation. We can
sit down and have a conversation, share our experiences, our
takes on these on these you know, what if questions
or what or what is and hopefully through that conversation

(22:59):
will find a common thread, and that common thread is
the truth. Christina, how do you feel about that common
What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, no, I definitely agree. It gets kind of lonely,
and you wonder, how is not everybody curious about this?
You know, from the moment you wake up in the morning,
Why am I here? What is all of this about?
And I feel like I've been that way my whole life.
We were not religious or anything, but for some reason
I had a pull to for church and maybe that
was just the only something that was out there available, right.

(23:28):
So when we moved from Slovenia and Europe, to the
States in two thousand. I was age eight at that point,
and I remember telling my mom when we get there,
I need you to take me to church. I don't
care which church, just take me. So that right there
was kind of like my first awareness of there's got
to be more and I need to know more. And
I did find churches and I did attend for a

(23:50):
couple of years through young adulthood, but it didn't really
resonate entirely, and I always had more questions and like reincarnation.
I heard about a child from back home, right, so
she had a reincarnation story. This was in the nineties
when nobody talked about it, so that was always in
the back of my mind. I read about the on
Monaki when I was in high school and I was fascinated,

(24:11):
you know, and like, why is this not being taught?
Why am I learning English one on one? Right now?
Are we talking about this? So there's little bits of
things here and there that have kind of found me
in my life. And I'm not one to just a
lot of people it just goes over their heads, right,
So for me, it was something I dived into. There
was all these rabbit holes. I was always diving into
things flat Earth, right, that was like, I don't know,

(24:34):
for me, it was maybe twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen kind
of became more popularized, and I remember telling my husband, Babe,
I don't think we live on a planet, and you know,
they're looking at you like you're crazy. But I'm not
one to just dismiss things. I'm an open skeptic right
not to where my brain's gonna fall out of my head,
but I am intrigued and want to I want to

(24:55):
find out what is it. I don't know. Mandela Effect
came out around that time as well, so that was
kind of another thing of like bears all that stuff.
It just freaked me out for a minute. And then
this year was kind of a big, big one for
me because I had a couple of years right of
coming to myself, becoming a mom and all of that.
But now I came back to a point of I
need to get back to those roots. I need to

(25:16):
I want to talk to people. I want to know
what's what's going on, and we're never going to we
might not ever figure it out right likely, but it's fascinating.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
So yeah, I appreciate you sharing that. Christina Yeah, I
just love to hear everyone's journey how they got to
right now. It's always fascinating, you know, And I know
there's a lot of people out there that are listening
or watching on the playback that can resonate with that. Yeah,
I went through the same thing. A lot of us,
you know, had a church foundation, a lot of us

(25:46):
have a partner who supports us. But it's like a
slow down on the whole esoteric stuff. You know, friends,
family that maybe you had at one point and no
longer because of your belief. So you're understanding a lot
of us are going through the same thing or we
have gone through the same thing, you know. But when
you lose something, you also gain something else, okay, and

(26:08):
you're gaining this community.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
You know. That's what I said, and that's that's what
and that's checking to what Kristin has said. Sometimes you
sometimes you feel like isolated right from family members, from
friends alike. But they don't understand that's prospective, right, Everybody
pretty much live life on this office. No they don't.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
They don't have if you need to feel like, if
you have a mind to die deep into terends like this,
people tend to think and maybe you're going to the
other side of town. You're running some you know on
the other side, and they want to make sure you okay,
do you need a psychiatrist? But you know what, what what?
Why do you think the way you think? I feel

(26:50):
the way you feel? So most of times the johny
can be it can be lonely, but I think I
think at the same time it's rewarding. I in the
sense that you're you're awake. There's something great about being awake,
the fact that that you can know for sure, there's
more than this. There's more than what we see. You know,

(27:10):
you know what is reality? Everything we see here, life
is way more than that. If you want to want
to treat the origin of things of existence, and then
I think you're on the right path because everybody needs
to know, you know, everybody needs to question everything. It
just it just means that we know who we are. Well,
if you know who you are, you're going to want

(27:32):
to like where where are you coming from? And then
you get here and everything in between. Christina said she
read about the Ananakies and all of those beings are
fascinating for the play dance. You know, uh, and all
of these ancient beings probably being here on her sence
years ago, but probably still come here right, still you

(27:54):
come to this it we don't see that. But what
I'm sure we're not alone and do you right?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, so so.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
With we're of the coffee, it's gonna be coffee of
course to tak the only one.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, we'll be too we'll be too ignorant if we
actually think that we're the only creatures or species that
exists in this and whatever. This is, right, it's it's
a little bit. It's a little bit, say Narcos, what
was that ur Narco's word? Thank you? Right? You think
it's just it's just us, It's just us, right. I

(28:31):
want to give and and Ebeneze, I appreciate. That's a
beautiful thing. And we're definitely going to get into a
lot of these topics. I want to give a moment.
Since we are doing a live I want to make
sure I acknowledge the folks that are on here. Ebenezer,
this one's for you, Russy says cool quick silver shirt, Ebenezer,
is that thank you? Thank you?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
All right?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
So we have some folks that are you know, saying
high from different areas. Amy says, let me put her
on the screen. All right. She says, I would turn
on my boombox as a kid and listen to Coast
to Coast on the radio. As a kid, can appreciate
your curiosities. Yeah, I remember Coast to Coast. I don't
know if that's still on. Is that still on anybody?

(29:12):
I mean, I'm sure I don't know if it is,
Like I'm not familiar. It's a radio podcast station. Yeah,
Jamie clarify for us on the on the live when
you get a moment. But this guy I forgot what
his name was. Jamie made me mention his name too,
and he would talk about all this stuff and people
would just go on there, just like they would come
on my show and they'll talk about all these things.

(29:34):
And you'll turn on and you're like, what are they
talking about today?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
You know?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
So Coast to Coast. Yeah, you guys can google, can
google it, you know if you haven't done so a
ry So thanks for sharing that, Jamie. No No Progo
Pronto also watched Coast to Coast. Carlos resonates completely with
everything that's been saying so far, and then Rusty he's
saying it's part of the nWo oh, the New World

(30:00):
the Order plan to divide people because if we unite
and stand up, the one percent lose. And that's yeah,
absolutely right, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Amy says it's a
different host. I'm not sure. I'm not Again, I haven't
followed the show too much. I don't really know what's
going on. But again, if you guys are interested, look

(30:20):
at Coast to Coast on there and oh, our bell,
that's who it was she put up here. Our bell
was your original host. That sounds familiar. But again, guys,
look it up and and see how that, see how
that goes. I appreciate you guys interacting with that. All right,
So folks, before we dive in, let's bring this all together.
Now everybody's relaxed. We got to know you know each other.

(30:41):
You guys have an idea where everybody's coming from. So
if each of you had to describe your current spiritual
journey in one word, what would it be? And no
explanations yet? Just one word? Ebenezer, give me a word please?
All right, Cassandra, Magical, Christina.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Get these questions. I would say, confused.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
That's fair, I get it. Yeah, that's fair and honest.
I love it. I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
think so. All right, so I think that we're ready
to get into this. So so we're gonna get into
tonight's topics, folks. Each of our panel is brought two topics,
one inspired by the show Beyond the Frequency three sixty
nine and one personal passion topic that they've been exploring

(31:24):
on their own, on their own journey. All right, So
we're going to rotate these questions. We're going to start
off with a show topic, then a personal topic, then
a show topic, and back and forth and see if
we can get as many topics as we can before
the end of this live. Now, this live is special,
so it's not going to be one hour. We're either
doing an hour and a half possibly two hours. Okay,

(31:46):
So for those of you that are on the live
and yours and your troopers, let's push through. If if
you're watching it on the playback, you guys can cut
it up and watch it, you know, in pieces as
you guys need to. And for the folks on the
panel with me again as a reminder, if there's any
kind of emercy and you do need to drop and
take care of something by all means take care of

(32:07):
take care of that, Okay, So we understand that life
still goes on outside of this, all right, Okay, So
kicking things off tonight is going to be Cassandra. Okay.
So Cassandra, you brought in a topic that this show
keeps circling back to over and over again, and that's
outer body experiences. So Cassandra, what angle do you want

(32:29):
to explore tonight regarding Obe's and what draws you into
the OBU world?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
The floor is yours, Okay, I just want to dive into,
like I guess if you've never done it before and
you want to start doing it just because I've never
done it. But it got me really onto. It was
like you having the Alchemist and Bam and Cory on
and I'm just like, Wow, these guys are amazing and
they're very knowledgeable and sweet human beings. I mean, they're

(32:57):
telling you what's coming from their heart and they just
let you know that there is something else out there
and that we aren't just our physical bodies. We're more
than that. And that really got me excited absolutely.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Now, yeah, and Christina, what are your thoughts about the
Obe situation? Oh my gosh, well, where do I start, right?

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Where do I start? Yeah, I'm absolutely fascinated. We've heard
the term astro projection, like back in the day, right,
you hear these things, never put two things together, never
knew what it was about. And then early on this
year came across when all of this kind of started
popping up all over, tearing about gateway, gateway, gateway, and

(33:39):
I've never meditated, never did anything, and so I was like, okay,
let's give this a show. I don't even know what
this is. I knew something about CIA, had invested a
resource into finding out more about it, and so I
threw on the first tape, got to the resident tuning
if you know, you know right, if you've done the tapes,
and I just shut it off and stopped it right

(34:01):
then and there because I was completely creeped out.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
I was like, what is this?

Speaker 4 (34:04):
I never meditated, so having like my eyes closed, thinking
like no thoughts to myself. It was very uncomfortable for me. Okay,
but I said, you know what, I need to give
us a shot. Something inside of me kept saying like
you gotta do this, you got to do this, And
I feel like a lot of us have that intuition,
something just pulling at you their strings to keep going.
And so I listened to another one or two tapes

(34:25):
and I started vibrating all over my body. And what
did I do? I shut it off. I shut it off,
and I said, I don't know what this is, but
I don't want any part of it. So I believe
sometimes the less you know, the less expectation there is,
and for some reason, things just work out easier that way,
you know. And I feel like I was stepping into

(34:45):
it kind of naturally. Things were just happening. I woke
up one night and essentially half of me was out,
and then woke up another night and was half in,
half out, floating. But I shut it all down. I
shut it all down. I just wasn't ready. And then
I delved in deeper, actually learning about it. Started reading books,
just book after book after book, techniques, et cetera. What
is this, what's going on? What are the theories around it?

(35:08):
Everything from Tom Campbell right, Monroe, Graham Nichols, just all
over everything. And I think the more I learned, the
more it's kind of shut down, which is you know,
I mean, I don't know, to each their own, but
I think it becomes more about techniques and less about
the natural ability that we all have. And so I
still meditate every day. That's the one thing that I've

(35:30):
kept because not necessarily to go out of body, but
because it's the most relaxed, clear minded, in a waking
state I'd ever been in my entire life. And so
I do that every day at least thirty minutes. It's
completely enjoyable and relaxing. And so I guess that's where
I'm at with OBS. So still I'm trying. I started
trying again actually doing like a wake back awake back

(35:52):
to bed method. And I am I'm a scaredy cat.
I think a lot of us are. And I think
it's all in little baby steps, so little things here
and there, and I'm going to get there one day.
I think we all will we if we put our
mind to it.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Absolutely sure. You sharing that, yeah, yeah, awesome. And Folks,
as we continue having these conversations and our panelists are
sharing their thoughts and by all means, we want to
hear your thoughts as well. So if you have a
quite a general question for the panel or just one
directly to one of the panelists, by all means put
their name down and then I'll put you on the

(36:25):
screen and we can definitely engage with you. Danielle said,
this is awesome. Caason, I'm late but made it. Hey Danielle,
I'm glad you made it too. We're all glad that
you're here. So I do agree, Danielle, this is great.
This is something that I think I will be doing
maybe once a month. Maybe once a month, we'll do
a live panel and just get folks. You know, Danielle,

(36:46):
we haven't met yet, but you might be the next
person on the panel, so let's keep this going. Ebenezer,
I still want to stick to the whole OBE conversation
because Cassandra and Christina had their input on it. How
does that line up with what you've experienced or felt?

Speaker 1 (37:00):
So I think I think ob it's something everybody he
would be curious about. So we don't know, at least
up until recent years. I'm probably going to say I
never knew such phenomenon existed or even thinking about it.
My thought is, you die and you go and you
have the concept of, you know how how the religion

(37:24):
for see heaven or head that that was what I
was used to. I started watching a lot of NDE
situation over our YouTube, and I founded fascinating in terms
of in terms of what I came back and actually reported,
you know, what they find, who they met, who they
came across familily members on the other side in jail

(37:47):
Jesus my God. So I got curious about it, and
I think, I think, I think my view is actually
necessary that everybody, if you can into the olde side
of health reasonbing, that you find out things that you

(38:09):
would probably never know if you just stick to this
amner that we you know, we live in. If you
might just cover yourself in the process, right, you might
get answers to questions, and that's probably been living on
your mind for a very long time. So I think
it's it's necessary. You know, the OBE is necessary, awaitness

(38:31):
is necessary. I I've deepped into it and I've had
some sensations. I think I was nearly probably almost coming out,
but I think that there was a distraction that's actually
you know, shut it down for me. But I've gone
through bannera beats and pemissing and try to do a
light meditation for yourself to have one personally, I would

(38:54):
love to actually experience that as much as possible, if
not all the time, because quest so.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
I want to make sure I understand Ebenezer. Just to interrupt,
I apologize here, but you're you would like to be
able to experience obs as much as possible.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
That's what you're saying right much as I can, because
because you questions are limitless, you know, you have a
lot of things you want to find out. I think
the best thing is to find out on your own,
post hand post the person I was, I was talking
on the discord that I have a question to ask
and when I do come out, you know, I want

(39:32):
to be able to note things down as how I
go who I max, you know, I think I think
while I talk about an order, the order meeting them,
I be just sourced with that in your mindcraft think
that gay bad. It might be any of those guys
I regard itself. I want to find out, you know what.
I probably will not be able to do here because

(39:54):
we don't have all the answers. We don't have all
the answers out here, but when we get there, we
have hell on diluted answer free from the source. Curious
about that, I want to be able to on that
journey and then stay with it because again you discovered
things more and more. My grandmother passed. She feel e

(40:15):
raised me, but she played a very tidbut her role
in my life when I was little, and she passed
on from me, and I won't to be able to
find her very important for me. Right. So so if
I don't have, if I don't have a motivation as
to why I am journey into the O, my motivation

(40:36):
would be I want to be able to find my grandma.
I'll be able to talk to her again, and you know,
just seeing her again, I would it will be joyful.
It will bring a lot of information. That's the question,
you know why when she passed, what happens? What's happened?
And I will try to find a few things I

(40:56):
might want to pand up from her. You know, when
you're coma people, you never know who we're going to
run into. You never know, so so it might be
as pretty Dyk might be your guy, It might be in,
it might be the plade is, it might be anybody
might find yourself anywhere. Just be curious while you have
as much more to ask you as you as you can,

(41:17):
and then come share with us let's let's let's let
let's know what's going on. This life. In my view,
this life we're living and this world we're existing. I
think in my view it's picture.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
It's picture.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
This is not real as we think it is. And
and and that that that the other side is more real.
I think I think you've had a couple of all
be experiences on the on the show, we've all said that,
yeah right now, not your worst, all of those, all
of those guys, and and I've feel excited that that's

(41:53):
the possibility. And the guy the Alchemist versus nine talk
about he went to he went through his past lives
and yeah, right, a real soul was able to experience everything,
met friends it would have known us live before. They

(42:13):
met a guy and they met his wife from the
past life and then lived as it is happening now.
So so so the possibility is actually limitless when you
start having that. I don't think it's a journey anybody
want to want to back on and then you know,
step back as it never happened.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yeah, and no one would want to forget it happened.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
They don't, Yeah, right, and Ebenezer, and let me just
and again, I appreciate. I'm following everything that you're that
you're saying, and you're absolutely right because I think we
all believe the same thing, we all understand it the
way that you are. I want to also give the
ladies also a moment to kind of touch base on
what you on what you've said. Christina, let me jump
back to you for saying because Ebenezer had mentioned that

(42:57):
he would like to experience OB's as much as if
I'm even assuming correct me if I'm wrong, Ebenezer, that
you may want to you want to stay out outside
your body for a long for a long time. That's
kind of what you're what you're saying there. Okay, so Christine, Yeah,
So Christiana, I want to propose a question to you
for those that might be asking this question, do you

(43:19):
think that is safe to be outside your body for
such a long time? And I know you're not an expert,
we're not assuming that, Just what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (43:27):
On that thought, it's something I try not to think
about too much, honestly. So, like we talked about earlier
today's Caesar and my my interpretation of sounds that I
was hearing as I was coming out right or getting
into a different state of mind. And so I'm trying
not to think about these things because you think, Okay,
so the people that die pass away in their sleep, right,

(43:48):
I mean, who knows what some of those things could
have been. And so that's another thing my husband says,
is why are you playing with fire?

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Right?

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (43:58):
I get it, of this is unknown and I don't
want to touch on this stuff, right, I'm really trying
to stay positive. But I also am in the psychiatric field, right,
and so schizophrenia and all of these mental conditions, I'm
now starting to have a different interpretation of these things.
What if they're tapping into something else and it's not
you know, I mean sometimes yes it has to be treated.

(44:19):
I understand for quality of life and all of that,
but what are they tapping into? And that is so
intriguing to me? And the brain right has always been
a fascination for me, which is why I'm in the field.
I'm in always learning, always wanting to know more who
we are, why we're here. So going back to our
obe safe, do I think we need out of our
bodies as much as possible? It sounds like from Darius

(44:42):
and all of these obe explorer masters that it seems
that it's okay, And Darius even said I believe he
was offered to stay correct, yes, and so yeah, So
I mean, what if it's so amazing on the other side,
and I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll stay, you know. And
it's crazy in this perspective of our little minds, in

(45:03):
our little world though it's maybe on the other side
this is nothing, right, it's a blink of an eye
as the NDE folks come back and say too. And
I've loved ndees as well. That was a huge gateway
into all of this for me. So a lot of
them do want to stay. And it is a little
bit of a scary thought. It might be part of
why I'm not completely letting go and giving myself the

(45:23):
shot of going on body because I'm holding back and.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
I appreciate that. At Cassandra, I'm gonna throw it to you.
Why is it that the unknown when you think about
what anybody thinks about the unknown, the first emotion our
thought that comes to mind isphere why do you think
that is?

Speaker 3 (45:42):
Yeah, that's that's a good question. It's like, because we
don't know what to expect or what's going to happen
when we're there, or maybe the people we see or
are going to look scary like how they've said some
of them do are in all black cloak, but they're
there to help you, So it's kind of it's how
you interpret them. So that's the hard part too, because

(46:03):
if you see someone all black and in a hood,
you're going to think something negative right away because that's
how we've been conditioned to see those things. But in reality,
it could be like an angel that's helping you, that
just looks, you know, different, right.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Right, and and and my two cents on that, and
then we'll move to the next subject is that when
when when we don't know, we always start becoming very defensive.
We always try to protect ourselves or run away is
to have fight or flight, right, So when it comes
to the obe state, if you don't if no one
ever talks to you about it, if no one has conversations,

(46:39):
if you haven't heard about people having NDEs or ob experiences,
you are going to be afraid. And Christina, you meant
you mentioned how you've gotten to a point where you
were afraid and you were hearing things and then you
shut things down, right because because it shocked you. It
made you feel afraid. That's okay, that's okay. You have
to get that out of your system. You have to practice.

(47:00):
Try one time, shut it down, do it again. Something happened,
shut it, shut it down. Eventually, after a few times,
you're gonna say, all right, I get it, all right,
I get it. I know what's going on out there.
At least I have an idea something's gonna be here.
I'm gonna sound this. But now that fear will become
familiar to you, no longer unknown, however scary, however it sounds,

(47:24):
however it feels, it will now become familiar. And when
you something's familiar to you, it becomes acceptable. Right, So
this is why you have to continue to keep practicing
and attempt the exposure exposure, keep attempting to go beyond
your frequency. All right, So we'll and folks in the

(47:44):
in the in the chat, if you've had you know
OBEs or want to experience it, or if you like
the topic type type ob three sixty nine. All right,
so I know you're engaged and you're in here, and
and if you don't know, folks, sleep around aaly is
not the only way to leave your body. It's one
of the easiest ways, but for most folks it is

(48:07):
scary because your body can't control it. You're you're paralyzed. Okay,
but understand that when sleep paralysis just means that your
body's relaxed at a point where it's not going to move.
It has to protect itself. Imagine if you went to
bed and sleep paralysis never kicked in, and you have
a dream where you're fighting something or moving around, You're

(48:28):
going to start punching your loved ones and hurting yourself. Right.
This is why sleep process happen. You get to a
particular you know, state where your body protects itself and
it stays still, and then your soul, your energy is
able to step out. But when it steps out, it's
not how you say, it's not consciously aware, right, it's

(48:49):
doing business, but it comes back forget. You may get
a peak, but then you're like, just probably a dream. Okay,
I've had Folks, ask the question, what is the difference
between you know, how do I know if I had
dream or obe? Okay, yeah, question, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
And my my.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Response to that from my understanding is that when you dream,
you come, you wake up, You forgot right. You you yawn,
you blink, you do you move a finger. That dream,
that whole dream just went away. But when you have
an OBI, when you wake up with your with your
physical eyes, you remember the experience.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
You have it with you.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
How many times have you guys woken up and you
stayed in bed like, wow, what was that?

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Yeah, you thought about it after the fire.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
And you thought about it and your heart's still beating. Right.
Maybe you might catch a taste or a or a
smell or something that you were interacting. You probably feel
the last touch that if you engage with somebody, you
bring all that back. That's not a dream, that's an
experience outer body experience, okay, and you're able to recall

(49:55):
the details of that experience, just like you go down
the street to the grocery store and say, yeah, and
then this person cut me off, and then I had
to go through these lights and just say. You're able
to recount those stories. You can do that with an OBE.
So that's how you know the difference between whether you
had a dream or an out of body experience. If
you bring it back the experience and you can write

(50:16):
it down and talk about it, you were out of body.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Okay, I wanted to ask you see talking to you
guys today on the discord. But so because of all
of this effort and intention I'm putting, my dream world
is now colliding with my real world. Right, so I'm
getting into sleep paralysis because I feel the vibrations. I
become pareless, and I think I from that point on
I cross over into dream. But essentially the dream is

(50:42):
let me roll out, let me roll out, and let
me float whatever, and then I come out and then
I'm in my room. It sometimes looks different, but my target,
I have a target. I'm trying to verify this experience
because I am such a skeptical person. Even if it
happened to me, I wouldn't believe it. And so do
you think having a goal of urifying it is even
possible or feasible. So in my example, what I'm trying

(51:04):
to do is go down the street that way and
turn right and see the numbers on a house I've
never been to before.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
So is that?

Speaker 4 (51:12):
And I do that all the time. And these lucid dreams,
fake obees experiences IM having where I leave and I
go through the wall and I'm walking out and one
time these people saw me and were chasing me, and
I was like, no, I got to get to my
I need to see this address number on that house.
And I made it and I saw it, and so
I'm jotting down all these numbers of the house. And
I haven't told my husband this, so I can't. There's

(51:32):
nobody I can verify and be like, hey, are these
the numbers that are on that house? But I know
it's a dream, so I haven't even pursued trying to
verify it, right, But do you think that that's something
even worth trying?

Speaker 2 (51:44):
I'm going for Before I answered that, I want to
give Ebenezer, let me get your thoughts on what she
on what she said. If you do that real quick,
all right, So.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
With all Bee, you're gonna know it, You'll be it's
gonna be clear date the dream I drum, we'll wake
up from it and we'll kind of remember from some bits.
Like now, now you have clarity, right because you because
you want this quest for an O B E. Now,
what that does for you is it brings it kind

(52:14):
of like makes you a little bit cleverance, if I
can use that word, it bring clarity to to your dream.
State because I explained the same thing too. So the
first thing you see is if you get a vivid dream,
and it's like it's like your dreams are getting lucid, right,
and that is the precausal to having an OB. So

(52:34):
so you're actually making a u a huge progress towards
the OBE because now you're having a lucid dream, right.
But it's gonna be You're gonna play as the you're going,
you're gonna know it, you're gonna come out, you're gonna
come out to your dog, You're going to see everything
just as we sing it right now. So it's not
you cannot get an O B E. You can have
an O B experience and not know you have it.

(52:57):
It's you will not.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
Yeah, I believe it too. That's why I don't. I
haven't had it. I know it's it's a locier dream,
but I know this is one step closer. Because journaling
really works. Waking up immediately journaling in that book, anything
you can remember. I used to barely remember anything from dreams.
So I have a journal fall of like I can
fill up a page or too easily every day now

(53:19):
because my brain is retaining and it's understanding that my
intention is to to know that side of myself, the
sleep side. I want to know what's going on and
I want to have control.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Yeah. Yeah, well so one my last three departments is
when you get from this journey to your things happens
along the way you're going to unlock something. Talk about
you know, like you just said, you're having a clear dream.
That's one of the benefits of it because because you're
actually shappening yourself, you're sharpening your essence, you're sharpening who

(53:54):
you are. Right, It's like it's like when you have
a blindfold and you turn the blindfold off right so
you can see clearly.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Well, one of the booking about you know, been on
the OBI Johnny. Yes, like I said, you got awakening,
You got awaken, right, so you're know more, you get
more classy, you see what out more cans, stuff happening
that you might never experience, not experience the poor even
before the OBE. So it's like it's like a long

(54:23):
line of things that happens while you on it. If
you haven't got way for everybody, I'm not your but
you on the right plath, I think everything just greats.
The way you're having a right now, which it's also
been good.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, And let me throw this on here.
This is funny. Jamie had had put down, what about
cloaking yourself when going to obi And that's that's for you, Christina.
So there's no one can trace, you can trace you
back and everything. So that's fine. Yeah no, I mean yeah,
cloak all the way and stuff. Yeah, Christina again my charger.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Go go go go for it, go for it. Yeah yeah, yeah,
there is a live folks. This is how we do it.
We got to take care of we got to take
care of things. See, Jamie had asked, let me put
this on here quick. See she says, question for anyone,
do you dream in black and white? Color or or both?
That's a fair question. Everything I dream in color? I

(55:21):
don't think I've very dreamed in black and white, because Sandra,
what about you?

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:24):
In color?

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Right?

Speaker 3 (55:25):
I was going to say, I don't think every in
black and white that I can think of, but.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah, yeah, but is it what about you color or
black and white or both?

Speaker 1 (55:34):
I think I think it's it's all being colored, Okay.
I think dreams, dreams have they have publushes for the
guests asking the questions. I mean, if you're dream black
and white, then it's something that said to you that
way for reason that the proposts do that mostly it
is colored. But if it's black and white, then that

(55:54):
is what that might make sense to you, that you
might make sense or better get out of.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. I mean again, like for some
folks they might think, like, what's with the question, But
I hear it. I mean, Jamie, I'm actually curious. I'm
throwing the question back to you, what do you dreaming?
Since you proposed the question, do you do you dream
in black and white? I'm kind of curious, so I'll
wait for that response. Carlos says that he actually dreams

(56:21):
both black and white and in color. So that's interesting though,
And this is this is why we have these conversations,
because sometimes we think that other people are doing the
same thing that we are and they're not, you know,
and then you ask them why or how? Right, So
that's a beautiful thing. Let's see here, all right, So
we'll get we'll get back to the chats here. All right,

(56:42):
let's move over from from ob I appreciate everybody's perspective
and thought on it, Christina, Actually, I don't know if
I even answered your question. I don't think. I don't
think I did. Or are you Are you satisfied with
what's already been responded to? Did you want me to
add to that?

Speaker 1 (56:58):
You?

Speaker 4 (56:58):
Do you think if I come out of body and
I show up at the house, well I have the
accurate address?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Say it again, because you could off, you could off.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Do you think?

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Sorry, do you think if I come out of the body,
if I achieve it, I go out of body and
I walk down the street to that house, do you
think I will be able to Well, remembering is another thing,
But if I saw that, would that address be correct?

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Yeah, it should be. Yeah. If you're in if you're
in your same dimensional space, you should definitely see whatever's
outside of your of your house address or street sign.
That's your confirmation. But I want to touch base on
one thing that you said that just kind of came
back to me when you were explaining that, you said
you came out of your body and your room was
a little bit different. Did you not, Yes, just really quick,

(57:40):
when you say different, what was what was different?

Speaker 4 (57:43):
There was underneath my window by my dresser, there was
what looked like storage containers and things that were never
there have never been there.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Okay, So that was different, okay, And when you saw
that universe a different We're gonna get to that. We're
gonna get to that, Cassandra, because you're you're you're on
the right. I think we're all on the right, on
the right track here. But Christina, I wanted to ask
you that that storage under your windows seal, did it
did it seem familiar to you, like, did you accept it,

(58:14):
like to think about.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
That for a second, yeah, or did you look at
it and be like, why was that?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (58:19):
My dream self right the one in because outside of myself,
I'm like, okay, that was whatever.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
We're not gonna give it a label to what it was.
When you saw that chest or whatever underneath your windows
sell okay and dream I.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Feel like it was normal for the person experiencing.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
That dream, okay, okay. Which is which in your case,
your dream self or whatever right right? Okay?

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (58:44):
For whatever it is, dream self out of byself. What
are the cases this? This happens quite often when you
leave your body, there is a high potential chance that
you will be in, i say, a different dimensional space.
That looks the majority of it looks like your room,
your house, but there's there's slightly different things, Like, for example,

(59:05):
when I've gone outer body a few months back, when
I came out into my dining room right now, I
have a long, rectangle black dining room table with a
heavy piece at the bottom to hold it, and six
white white chairs. And when I was out of body,
that dining room table and those chairs were not there.
It was a circular table with four chairs. Now, when

(59:28):
I saw it, it felt familiar to me. I was like, oh, okay,
it's cool. Why did this seem familiar to me? Because
there's different versions of us, right, parallel universes, dimensional spaces.
There's another version of Caesar that lives in that same house,
except for he made a choice instead of buying the
rectangle table, he bought the circle table, and that's in

(59:51):
his house. Does that make sense? So there's there's a
version of you, Christina that when you got out dream
or not. Let's not put a label on it, right,
but whatever you see, all and everything belongs there to
that version of Christina in that house. Okay, So just
pay attention moving forward when you when you have those
experiences how did you feel when you saw something there's

(01:00:15):
there could be a moment where you're where you're where
you're where you're like like that's not that's not for me,
or what are the cases? But you have the ability
to recognize that's not my table. But I'm okay with it,
like like it's still it still feels like mine. Okay,
So pay attention to those, to those things, and yes,
definitely do confirmations.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Remember more. But I in that in that occasion, I
pulled out a box of so great value. Isn't that
that's a Walmart brand? Yeah, yep, And it was a
great value box maybe like of crackers, I don't know,
very colorful. It's so random that that was even you know,
part of the experience.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Where was that in the in the.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
It was wherever I was rummaging through that storage whatever
and pull that outult and for some reason, I don't know,
I just okay, I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Well we just witnessed just now, yeah, because it's right whatever,
we just wines just now as as we're talking about it,
you remember something something that you didn't know about a
minute ago, and they just came back to you. That's awesome.
And write that down and more things will come up. Okay,
I love that. I love that, all right, Jamie says,
could be another timeline. Yeah, we can call it a timeline.

(01:01:29):
I personally, Caesar, just me, I call it a different
dimensional space because all dimensions are stacked on top of
each other. We're talking about infinity, infinity going up and
down or left and right. It's all, it's all stacked
at the same place. Right. All you do is change
your frequency, whether it be audio, mind, sight, whatever the case.
You just tune in and then you experience it. Okay,

(01:01:52):
that's all it is potential time timelines and she and
She's right. You could have that that chest might might
be something that you buy a year, two years from now,
ten years from now. There's just so many possibilities and stuff.
But pay attention to your feeling more than what's ever
being being said, the feeling, because that's what you bring
back with you. All right, So let's move it on, Ebenezer.

(01:02:15):
We're gonna come over to you regarding a personal topic,
and you wanted to talk about parallel universes and dimensions. Okay,
So I love this topic because parallel universes, multi multiple dimensions,
the layer construct of reality, which is a great segue
from what we're just talking about. Just you know, just

(01:02:37):
now go ahead and open us up with this conversation.
Why is something that you wanted to bring it up?
Give us for a few minutes, and then let's get
everybody else jumping in on as well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Well. Actually, it's like it's a good thing that Christiam
actually brought this off. I think, shit, you brought up
at the right time. When you see the thing you
see like like a wardrobe, like a little cabinet where
you saw it from on the on the window side,
I think you said, and you pull a lot of
the pack of baithing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Like a warm mass package.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Yeah, so that's actually it's great that I came prior
to this question. We live in that in multiple realities,
and which which means that there are multiple versions of
boards that we live timultaneously concurrently. Why that is you know,

(01:03:30):
I wouldn't have an answer, but I think that we
exist uh multiple places at one time, since that they
did said it's all a dining set in the house
that was not there. When if you are not out
of the body, if you're just here, so which got

(01:03:51):
to tell us that there are multiple realities that we
live through. So the stall uh, our soul is having
a human experience. That's why what is That's what we're
here for. We're here on this art to experience that
which we would not be able to experience if we're

(01:04:13):
just in the other side. What's the other side, the
great world? My time with weird. That's how we hear.
We hear to experience. The first and the only way
we can, I feel equally experience this earth is in
the human body. This body that we have right now
that is made for this uh dimension, is made for
this three D world that we live in. We cannot function,

(01:04:38):
you know, without having this physical body in this world
because it's more dance. This is the dance reality we're living. True.
So now, like I said before, when when I was
really just God, God, God decided, I'm talking about the
nature of reality. So so so what is the nature
of reality? What is real and what is not real?

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
So, if we have our soul experience seeing different possibility
of itself, because it's a stall, the way I understand it,
it replicates. So so the soul might be having an
experience with your Christina in this howth told you are
with your family. There might be a version of you
and there also existing somewhere else having a full lednche

(01:05:20):
experience of family. You might be an athlete in a
different part of the world. You might you know, be
a business woman, you might be a doctor, it might
be something so so. So that is what that multi reality,
that is what it's all about. Rights multiple dimensions we
have here. We have this dimension, we have we have

(01:05:41):
the ID, we have all this, all this dimensions that
actually has life forces living and existing in them. And
so parallel universe we have. I do believe there's there's
another version of these hearts were in the universe in
the core book that people actually leave and have the
same experience that we actually experience in there. Remember, the

(01:06:06):
soul is limitless, it's not bound by anything. And you
know the experience that the store will not have to
let it do. The stoll is, if you can use
the word growing, The soul is growing like it's having
experienced this, it's advancing probably towards perfection.

Speaker 4 (01:06:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
And and so when the soul replicates, we have different
versions of different people and being in multiple dimensional spaces
like say, for instance, when uh, the guy on the
potast the Alchemist came on, came on. It was in

(01:06:46):
a different world, right, new Soul, New Soul, So New
Stoll is running concurrently while we're here on this first
that as a typical example, and it was able to
go there, and why it was there, it was there
in I probably want to say real time, which which

(01:07:07):
means means there's a word of this thing over there.
Why we appear so ontiple univers This is not the
universe that we know that we exist in, hurts in.
It's not the only universe. It's not the only universe
in existence.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
So let me let me interrupt, Let me interrupt there,
And I love what you share share there. So what
you're what you're also saying is that we don't exist
in just one dimensional space or one universe, because as
being multi dimensional beings, we exist in all dimensions at
the same time. It's about which version of us were

(01:07:48):
tuned in consciously. We have a choice. If you look
at a if you look at a on your TV
box and all, let's say, let's pick an actor. I
don't know, Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Are body knows him
right right the Rock? Okay, let's say he's I'm just
gonna just pick one. Let's say that he is actually
playing on five different channels. Okay, but you're only tuned

(01:08:11):
in to one of his movies. You're watching that one,
that's the one that you're focused on. That's the channel
that you clicked on. That doesn't mean the other four
movies don't exist. The other the other four versions that
are playing of him don't exist. They still exist. You're
just onto one channel. And to what you're saying, Ebenezer,
that's what's happening to us. We're clicked into one channel.

(01:08:32):
We're living this experience. Do we have the ability to
experience the other ones? Absolutely, but we have to learn
and train ourselves to switch back and forth so real
quick on the on the chat, folks, if you think
we're in a one singlar reality, let me know. Or
if you think we're in infinite branches of timelines like

(01:08:53):
I just explained, letting you know, share your share your
thoughts as well. Are we are we? Are we in
one universe, one reality and that's it? Or are we
everywhere all at once at the same time, Cassandra, I
want to hear your thoughts about this topic.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Well, yeah, I was just gonna say, like I remember
last year, before all of this happened, I was watching
it in how there's multiple universes. It was on Disney.
Oh boy, I'm gonna it's gonna bug me because it's
a show on there they do there's multiple It was
the Bad Brother. Chris Hemsworth was the good Brother and

(01:09:29):
he's the bad the village.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Then there's multiple timelines and multiple branches and he has
to save the main timeline. Then it makes you think
like they're telling us all of this maybe for a reason,
like you know, they're wanting to open your mind with
just little shows and little things like that. But there's
been a lot on multi universes, like within the last
say five ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Maybe it's been a hot topic. Right, it's been a
very hot topic. And you're right, Cassandra, I think what's
happening is the media. Right, there's there's a phrase that
there's nothing new under the sun. Okay, so so you
can create something that that that doesn't already exist. You
know what that means is if I ask you, if
I ask you, Cassandra, if I say create a new

(01:10:14):
color right now, can you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
That'd be so hard because it's like, yeah, I don't
know it probably not because they've all been created, I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Don't, right, right, But what but whatever you were to create.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
I could create a new color, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Yeah, but whatever that you were to create would have
to be coming from other colors that already exist, that's right, right.
So so anything anytime that there's a new invention, it's
based off of pieces of things that already exist. We
just put it together. We we like a like a lego, right,
we just put it together in pieces. Now we have

(01:10:49):
a new a new block. Right. So all these all
these inventions are just things that already exist, stacked differently
and put together differently, you know. So yeah, the multiverse,
the movies, the cartoons, to the topics, has been a
very hot topic. And I believe that the reason that
exists right now so so hot is because everybody is

(01:11:14):
now is collectively tuning in to the possibility of a
multiverse reality or universe. You know, we don't talk about
it so much if we don't, if we're not vibing
with it, Okay, So I think that's why it's out there.
And I think they are the movie Hollywood, They're telling
us something you know stargates, right, Stargate an old movie

(01:11:37):
from back from back then.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
I just watched it this year.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Did you just watch it this year for the first time?

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
I had to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Yeah, for the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
I was like, how have you seen it too?

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Is have you seen it as well? It you guys?
You guys gotta check it out. Yeah, it's I came
out in the early two thousand. Yeah, it's a good movie.
The Stargate talks about stargates and how they were found
and how the military is using them and all the
different things. Actually, those stargates actually exist, and I don't

(01:12:08):
know if you guys actually are aware, but the person
that discovered one of the first stargates was Saddam Hussein.
Did y'all know that?

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
I did hear that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
And that really got me because I'm like, well, maybe
that's why we.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Went to war exactly exactly. It was more than yeah,
so Saddam and this is this is well, I don't
want to say common knowledge and the esoteric community is
common knowledge. Okay, So Saddam Hussein found a stargate. He
also felt very strongly that he was one of these
on a Knaki beings okay, and you guys can search

(01:12:44):
all this stuff up. So he wanted to. He purchased
a piece in Iraq somewhere. I forgot the location in
detail to kind of tell you just the general. But
he bought this place and he wanted to create an
amusement park based off of on a knock knowledge. That
means that people from around the world for the first
time will come to this place and learn about the Annaki.

(01:13:07):
Now let me ask you this. Do you think the
rest of the world the elites wanted you to learn
anything about the un knacky? No, no, So what are
they gonna do. They're gonna shut it down.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Go ahead, Ebenezer, Well that's still that's still the people
who run this world. I don't think they want.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you, I hear you on that.
But they ended up he ended up wanting to put
this together. He found a stargate, so fast forward. The
United States ended up saying, oh, he's got weapons of
mass destruction. Mm hmm, all right. So they went and
they the United States and you know, went to town

(01:13:47):
you can look up today. The question is did they
find anything? Nope? Zero, They found nothing. And looking in
the historical records. Did they go to like bases and
things like that to find these weapons of mass destruction?
They didn't. They went to museums. They went to museums
and all these archaeological sites. Who goes there to find

(01:14:09):
weapons of mass destruction? That's because they were trying to
stop him from diggy and they were trying to find out,
we don't want somebody else to find ancient technology that
would put them ahead the game of us. So that
that that whole narrative was crazy. But the point is
why I say that is because him finding the Stargate,
then we have the movie Stargate, the very same structure.

(01:14:33):
When you guys watch the movie or watch a pull
up on Google, the same structure just loo looked just
like the one that he found. Oh yeah, so just
so yeah, that's it's it's just interesting. There's just so
much that you guys can go into that, all right,
So that what.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
You should make a whole episode on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Yeah, because I just found that out to this, like
I don't know, within the last months or something.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
So that Yeah, it's like a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Don't, well, folks on the on the chat and on
the playback if you, if you, if you want me
to make a whole episode talking about that, and a
couple of more things in relation to that, drop it
in here, say Stargate all right, and then then i'll know,
all right, if I get at least twenty Stargates, I'll
go ahead and make an episode on that. So that's

(01:15:25):
that's cool. That's cool, and this is what's cool about
us talking about it. Let me get back from yeah, yeah,
let's see what's going on here on the chat. I
gotta keep up, man, we got we got seventy six
comments and I'm just trying to keep up something here,
all right, Juliana, there's a Stargate show two super good. Yeah,
there is a Stargate show, you guys. That's that's I

(01:15:47):
think they had like ten seasons, so so definitely watch
watch that. I'm trying to keep up here, folks, to bear.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
With me here and different seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
My mom is a different season.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Yeah, they have Stargate Atlantis all the yeah, all that
good stuff. So and you'll and you'll learn so much
from there, all right, every time? Er, yeah, and one
more little things please, that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
That's why all the all the e is very important
and hands stress it, you know, Yeah, yeah, you got
you have to put you the l B staate. I
think you should go all in because what you would
find it's limitless. It's about all of those things. You get.

(01:16:33):
You get to know everything that has been shielded by
the by the control of this world, whatever you want
to call them. You will be amazed at what you
find hitting from the rest of us. If you if
you venture into that journey and you can start discovering
this one, your mind is blown away.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Yeah, absolutely, no, Yeah, I appreciate you that. Yeah, I
appreciate you sharing that. You know, and again, folks like
the the o B experience. It's not for everybody, Okay,
no one is, you know, forcing you to do it
and everything, but it is. It is an option. All
we're saying, and what Ebenezer is also saying here too,

(01:17:11):
is just that if you're if you're interested, if it
resonates with you, then try it out. Don't just do
it because if it doesn't resonate with you, if it
doesn't ring a bell, if you have no alignment to it,
don't try at tempted because what are you doing? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
All right, you'll want to do it to I think experience.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
With everything, with all of your claivoyant abilities, you have
to want to do it before you actually do it.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
So all right, A little bit jealous of the people
that just pop out like oh hey yeah and they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Even want Yeah. Well, here's the here's the thing. It's
not just I I appreciate the mindset. It's not just
pop out, Okay, it's it's not like oh booming, like
I shut down my body and then I just get
and I'm just gonna go wherever I want.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
It spontaneously happens for That's more of what I was saying.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Yeah, people can like very easily, but I don't think
that's very much.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
Yeah, there's folks that it happens to them accidentally and
they don't like it. It's it's scares them because because
they're having the experience, but they had no guidance exactly,
and that's scary.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Guardians, Guidance is the most important thing because when you
when you get out, where do you go?

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
You need? You need to have an of course, you
know why you want to, what you're looking for, where
you want to go when you step out, they have
to be this curiosity. You need to have a hugget.
I want to go visitis, I'm going to the I'm
going to I'm going there. So for those who just
pop out, it would be frightening and then it would

(01:18:51):
be confusing. I don't know what what, what's next? You're
probably going to take you dead. Yeah, that's true, so
so so so being being having a purpose the reason why,
and that would actually make it much more adventure.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Yeah, I appreciate the ebonezer. Yeah, you're absolutely right, just
having having intention stuff and may and who knows, we
might even do uh a panel on just obi itself
because any of these topics we could just talk about. Okay,
but again, to keep things going everything, let's let's keep
it going here. So let's bring in one of the

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hottest topics on this show, beyond a frequency three sixty nine,
which is mind sight. All right, So Christina, you've been
firs hand, you've seen it firsthand. Yeah, there she goes.
So Christina has first hand how powerful this is becoming
inside the community. So Christina, what what angle do you
want to bring up this topic from. Let's start.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
Let me think how does it work? Why the sudden
interest see so many directions we can take it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
Okay, let's start let's let's let's start off with let's
start off why the interest? Why why out of all
the supernatural you know, clairvoyant abilities, dormitabilities that you've read
seen on TV, cartoons, movies, why was mindseide like, you
know what, I think that for me, I can do that?

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Why?

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
Short answer you awesome? Yeah, because so I did see
the Superhumans documentary you saw, but that went over my
head at that time, right, because I feel like at
that point in my life it didn't resonate with me.
So I'd recently been hearing more about it, and then
for some reason, when you said you were able to
achieve it and your story about it, it just clicked

(01:20:38):
with me and I said, Okay, this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Is what I need to do.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
And it's the same thing with the OBEs. It was
kind of like this poll, like okay, do it, do it?
Do it? So that's kind of how it started for me,
and I think a lot of people are curious about it,
wanting to see it for themselves, but also it's a
way that you can tangibly show it to somebody else,
like the potential, right because you can. You can have
a clairvoyant experience and a dream precognizant to an extent, right,

(01:21:04):
or bend a spoon. I have a spoon here, right,
So I've done this too, so you can. You can
have these experiences, but nobody's nobody's feeling the spoon the
way you are, and they don't. They can't have that
same experience because you did it. And so mindsight is
something that you can kind of prove right in person
at least. I mean, there's so many skeptics out there.

(01:21:25):
My husband is still questioning you. So there we go,
and he will forever more.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
He won't know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
He said, if you do it, then I'll maybe believe it.
So that's my goal is to prove him wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
I love it and that feels it right. Yeah, if
you're this Cassandra, what are your thoughts about mind sight
and for what you've seen about it, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
It's pretty interesting, Like I've never heard of it really
before until you started doing it and sharing more about
and I guess it also seems like it's maybe something
that's the most tangible to like tap into just be
it's something that we can practice and maybe like build up,
like especially if we don't think we have any powers,

(01:22:06):
but that's something that you could definitely try and like
build up on. Yeah, so I feel like it's it's
reaching love it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
I love it. I want to put one of these
chats up here. Let me go to this one from
Billy and this is for anybody here. He says, what
do you guys think about negative entities sucking someone's energy?
It just doesn't make sense to me if we are
infinite souls with no limitations. Who wants to take on
that one?

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
That's a good question actually, just because I want to
take this on maybe because the good about reptilians and
how they feed on essen, which I heard is like
your soul. But I think it's also maybe negative negativity
or something like fear and depression. But I don't know

(01:22:53):
if it's true or not. I mean, like I believe
in many different things, but I just don't know if.
I mean, maybe they hold because there is so much
horrible things going on that they have to keep feeding
into to like keep the game going. So it's like
there must be a real.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Is there any thoughts on that?
On that that?

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Yeah? Yeah, So so we're humans. Right then then humans
and we kind of have a unique We cannot unique
understand that we are, but I want to say directly
connected to stars, the lights, the source of all things, right,
and that kind of like I think in all of

(01:23:35):
creation the way I understand it were humans have a
unique place because we can have this light and this
starts that is the whole watforms our existence, right, that
is pretty much more convetted in on the other side
from the dark world that we have. You know, if

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people say he was spirit, right, it was spirit. People say,
you know negative nega the spirits. If you wave as
you have positive, then you have negative as a bulk.
So below that and so on. The energy that we
processed as human is coming from the fust from the
creator and stuff from the light. H sub change, sub

(01:24:17):
sub spirits actually fall away from the lights, or maybe
they're not just they don't have the same creative or
from creation same thing we have because I we're fortunate,
so so they're going to have to draw this energy
from some way. The light is a good energy. Everybody
want to be in the light if you have I

(01:24:37):
think what that happened is say you are Philu saying
far right, something negative. Say you have an anxiety, right,
those beings feed on those things. They feed on your feet,
they they feel, don't you anxiety? They feed on the
energy that you produce that actually is not of the light.

(01:24:59):
When you're in the light, everything is feel, everything is
pie your Oh when you said it's law. When you
start to ship for some reason, that little is then
you worry about pay yours over something you have a
eld unknown. Yes, those entities will feed on those negative energies.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
So it's right, it is right. Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about why. Why is it that these negative
entities feed on your negative energy or your fear? Right?
So it goes back to the concept of if you
think it to be so, it will be so. If
you think as an omnipotent being, a god or goddess,
if you will right outside of your body, if you

(01:25:41):
know that nothing can touch you, nothing can harm you,
then nothing will. But when you fear, when you have
that fear in your heart, you're opening the door. You're
allowing whatever it is that's frightening you to harm you.
So this is why when for those of you that
are attempting the Obe States, going in knowing that nothing
can touch you, Nothing will touch you unless you think

(01:26:04):
it to be. So that's it. So if something's coming
at you and you think it's gonna harm you, if
you think, because you are no longer limited by this
physical body at that state anymore, you are now a
light being. That means that the thought that comes to
mind becomes your reality.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Just like that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
No effort, no physical effort, no dance, no takes a
long time. It's just the thought that something's gonna hurt me,
it will hurt you, So change your mindset when it
comes to that. That's why these negative energies are feeding
off of you, because you feel like they can. All right,
and just a.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Quick war minute clarification rights, just to go a little
define that like you like this said, once you come
out of the body, Once you come out of your body,
you ai your perfect states, you in your life set.
That's the real view. You're all powerful, you're limitless, right,
you're not confined in this physical human body that has

(01:27:03):
a lot of job comings. When you're out, you're pretty
much untociable unless you believe it to be. So you
don't carry feared out of your body. The fear state
the Ais State, the United State is part of part
of the that the what exists in this physical human
body that has limitation, that slash if if you will,

(01:27:23):
your soul, your spirit person cannot be hammed. Just to clarify,
so you have to have that fear. You have to
let yourself have that believe that you can be had
to see it on. Your energy is on this earth,
it's with this physical body. If you haven't fear, now,
if you haven't feared, and you Indian body in this

(01:27:44):
really you're right now. I'm having a fear. They are
unstaining and it is like I cannot see if I'm
not out of my body, but they might be feared.
They might deciding next to me if I have a
fear of the or no, or I want to pay
my deal, I'm gonna get up. I'm panicking. I'm feared. Okay,
what's gonna happen tomorrow? I'm not sure I have a fear.
I'm panicking. Those entities will be fitted on those fears

(01:28:08):
while I'm sitting here, and they would be here, but
they're not physical because I can't say my physical heights right,
that is what I think that is once once I'm
out of my body, it's not gonna happen because I
know for sure if I don't give them. As a
matter of when you're out of your body, you are lights.
I say, you are lights. The darkness run the other
way from the light. So that's confidence. When you're out,

(01:28:31):
you're good. You're saying, don't grabut your business. Anything you say.
If you doet somebody, you know I resist you, and
they're gonna go away because you you're thrue itself with
the whole power that forms you. You end the power
of the creation when you're out of the body that
is here.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Yeah, I appreciate the ebonizer. And yeah, fear itself is
the illusion, That's what it is. Fear is the illusion,
the illusion that you can be harmed, that you are
lesser than what you truly are. That's how that's how
this the gatekeepers of this realm control the souls with
the illusion of fear. So just keep that in mind.

(01:29:09):
Know your true self, know who you truly, know what
you truly are, then take control of it. One last
point regarding the light, as you said so well, Ebenezer,
is that people always talk about like protecting yourself. I
gotta protect myself. So the negative energies don't get me.
Let me ask you this. Let me just propose an
idea here. If you're already in light, If you're already

(01:29:31):
in light, why would you need to protect yourself from
the dark. Let me rephrase it this way. You are
all right now in a room that's lit. You're in
a lit room. Are you right now afraid of the
dark coming in to get you? No, because you're in
the light. Think about it, light and you're in control
of the light exactly when you're in the light. I'm

(01:29:52):
giving you a physical context that you guys can wrap
your head around. If you're in the light, you're in
a lighted room. You don't care what the dark is,
or how how far it is to you, or whatever
the case is. So this is why when you if
you know from the heart that you are light, you
are the light, the source, then this whole thing about
I need to protect myself is bs because you're already protected.

(01:30:15):
You're it, you are the protection. Okay, all right, so
keep that going. So again, appreciate all you guys here.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Folks aren'ties real? Are they just?

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
They're real?

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
Imagine?

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Imagine they're real. They're Yeah, so that's a great question.
The entities are real, the negative entities. But here's where
it is. Everything from good just throwing a label out there,
from good or bad entities, right, the light the dark.
Everything comes from the same place, the darkness. The negative
entities are just light entities that fell so far away

(01:30:47):
from the dark and they're trying to find their way back.
Think about it that way. They're trying to find their
way back. This is why they come to the light. Okay,
So where if we change our mindset, we change our reality.
If we stop thinking because of this world that teaches
us that negative things, you know, like the Ring and
the crip keepers and all these fear factors, they're teaching

(01:31:10):
us that when you recognize these entities, they are bad.
They're going to harm you. They're going to hurt you
and possess you. They're feeding all of this. If you
change your mindset and let that go and think about
it this way and say that that negative entity is
coming to me because I'm going to bring it back

(01:31:30):
to source. I'm going to bring it back to the light.
Embrace it. I know that's tough for a lot of
folks to understand. What do you mean, Embrace it, figure
it out. It'll resonate with you. Okay. Not talking about possession,
not talking about any of that stuff. Okay. All I'm
saying is to if you understand that everything comes from
one place, the same source, then the only difference is

(01:31:53):
that one is further from the source than the other.
That's it. How you treat that is up to you. Love, folks. Love,
I'm gonna say it again, love.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
Yeah, and just believe in yourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Done you g yeah, yeah, like it awesome? All right.
So for the interest of time, we're gonna hit one
more topic. Okay, and Cassandra, this will be your your topic,
and this is the one about the orbs and the
light beings that you've been seeing. Okay. I want to
make sure that we that we address that together as
a panel, because you've really been like digging into this

(01:32:28):
for a while and sharing it with us. So start
us off, man, what have you been seeing, how have
you been capturing it? What are your thoughts, what do
you think it is? And then we'll jump in with
our thoughts as as well.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Yeah, I like I want to know more. I've been
since I thought it was stars, since August that we're moving.
I've been documenting, and I see them every night that
the sky is clear. It's usually one to three sometimes
it's been said, and sometimes there's really bright ones and
less bright ones. But I've found that it's not stars,

(01:33:01):
it's or and I don't know exactly what they are,
but I've been able to communicate by using go right
for yes and left for no, because I couldn't get
anything telepathic. I couldn't hear anything or sense anything. So
I tried that and it's been work. But what I
get is that they are an energy body, not a

(01:33:22):
physical body, and that they are consciousness, which I do
believe because it communicates with me and interacts with me.
Even twice now it has followed an eight minute drop.
One was like a further distance, but even this morning.
I saw it this morning a few times out the
window and was just you know, talking to it as

(01:33:44):
I'm packing my daughter's lunch and getting my lunch. And
then I dropped my son off at daycare and it
followed me there, and then I drove to work and
parked and it was right above my work and I
took a photo of and it's just I don't know
it's crazy and it sounds a little crazy, but it's
like given me this new outlook on life and it's

(01:34:04):
a positive thing and I just want to learn more.
And my kids see it too, so it's not just me.
So yeah, yeah, like they've seen it outside with me,
and yeah, I just feel like I have to show pee,
like help people not be afraid, just tell people embrace
that there's things out there that we don't fully know.

(01:34:26):
We can't fu least. I know it can only come
out like at death and the evening and the night.
I know it can't really come out past a certain time,
like when the sun is at past a certain amount.
So it's just like I'm finding little things out as
I go and ask questions, but it's still like something
that I'm diving into.

Speaker 4 (01:34:46):
They can't ask where are they located? Are we talking
about the sky or in front of you?

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Yeah, so it is in the sky, and i'd have
to say, like it's hard to explain how many feet
it would be at least ten twenty feet up in
the air, Like, so I can't reach it, but I
can definitely see it, and I can't I capture things
on video and in pictures that I can't fully see

(01:35:14):
with my own eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
That's like. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Another confirmation too, is like I've seen even photos where
it looks like in the ORB is an actual like
body formation. So oh, maybe it's showing me that it
really is like an energy body, like verifying certain things
with myself. It is interesting. But yeah, it's just like
I don't know why it's there every night or why
it's there. It just is there to protect me. I

(01:35:39):
feel like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
I like that you said that. I like that you
said that you're leaning towards it's there to protect me.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Will we tell it there for ever?

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Yeah? Whatever you think it's there for, then that's what
it is, because that's what you choose for it to
be right. You're a creator of your reality and stuff.
So I like that you're leaning towards that. Not like,
what's going on here? I did want to ask it.
You said you thought it was stars and then and
then you switched to its orbs. What was the switch? Like,

(01:36:09):
what made you convinced other orbs? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
I well, at first I was like, Okay, maybe it's extraterrestrial,
But then I would ask it things and it's like,
wouldn't fully say it's extraterrestrial. Then it said it the
energy body, not a physical body, and that it's from
a different planet, that it comes here when it can,
like which is during Yeah, that's all I've really gotten.
I'm like slowly getting answers here there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Can you can you explain that that communication? I don't
know if I missed it inert I was looking at
some of the chats here. But you said you're getting
to telepathically.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
No, I wish I I a first Yeah, like I
wish it was telepathic or that I could hear it.
It's literally asking it like I said, move yet for right,
right for yes, sorry, and left for no, And so
I ask it like yes or no question and sometimes yeah,
it will move and with my questions.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
Yeah, it's very exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
So cool that you found that. Ebaniez there, What are
your what are your thoughts in sixty seconds about what
she's doing and how she's communicating.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
I think I think it's exciting. I think it's a
beautiful thing. Talk about multiple universities, so you're getting visitors
from a different universe, different dimensional. I think it's something
to be excited about. The night be able to protect you.
Usually when things like this is talked about or like

(01:37:37):
this comes up. We usually attribute them to extra extras.
That's correct, right, it was, or as here you communicated
and they did say that. I have talked the rest
about they actually and they being something different, that different world.
I think it's a beautiful thing. We talked about being away,

(01:38:00):
being away, right, you might have found that they might
actually start communicating with you more. I'm gonna say, don't
be surprised if you start saying this energy being more
in person, they might start getting included. The more the sense,
how comfortable you are with them, the more they're going
to come forward. So the year for everything, I probably

(01:38:22):
want to say that you have to communicate with you
and they might actually want to sharhared life on the
nature of our reality. They might want to teach you
more about the dimensions and all the universities and everything
that we want to get answers to or that they
think we need answers to. Now we will wait. We

(01:38:44):
were on a very amazing timeline, this timeline, we have
a lot of good stuff that are happening. Thank you,
We're not Yeah, we now have a lot of people
who are actually more impressed in things like this, topices
like this, the l these and the nds and to

(01:39:04):
what you like, the ancient beings, the Annaki they played
the end. There's a lot of those things that comes
to form at that we're fourious about. This timeline is
very amazing and a lot of happening, and this is
like one of those things that are going on. So
I'm going to say, be excited. You might have seen
seeing those things, you know, like in the energy one

(01:39:26):
out of the hole, but as can't get fired when
they get conta. But it definitely here to one protect you.
Like you said, I'll have the say they had to
communicate something and they might have something to communicate that
they might have brought. They might be bringing enlightening bent
to you, thinks things they think you need to know.
They don't harm. Don't like that they have a puppy.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
Yeah, they came for a reason or to show me some.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Right, and the fact that they actually you know, you're
the one they therefore because they go with you everywhere though, yes,
don't be afraid. It's totally fine. You know, we all
we're all in a quest to know more about I distanced, right,
So I'm gonna say, yeah, you know, going with it.
It's something next time.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
Yeah, awesome, Yeah, thanks for sharing that, Cassandra. I have
a question for you from the chat here from Jamie.
I put it on the screen here. She says, do
you channel auto magic? Writing No, I have never.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
I just started meditating, actually, like I never thought I
could be the person that could have like a still
brain and just meditate. But I finally found like a
happy place and have start. Not I should do it
daily because it's important. At least I've start, But yeah,
channeling seems very interesting. Like I've watched certain people champ

(01:40:46):
and have read certain books about channeling, but I just
know I've never done it. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
Yeah, you never know, man, You never know unless you try, right.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
Yeah, No, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
I'd be open to it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Yeah, and we and we did. We did.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
We didn't understand this and I didn't coming true to you.
You never know what you end up with. It's always positive.
You never know what's bringing. And I want to say,
I want to say it's your meditation that actually would then,
because when you meditate, you you're opening this dimending our
space and you might come in contact with any with

(01:41:23):
any you know of those things. So I think they
got done to you from your meditation, and they might
have some communicate with you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
So it's going to get clear.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
I'm going to continue with that it is happening.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Yeah, that's a good point. And Jamie believes in you.
She says, maybe you do, so she's definitely believing. I
give that a shot. All folks, All right, panel, just
because of time constraint, we're already hearing that two hour mark.
Let's give Ebenezer in sixty seconds. Tell us just one

(01:41:56):
last piece of advice or something from you for for
the audience before we log out.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Go for it. Well, so so this is for everybody.
Be curious, the clorious. I have an open mind, be
willing to know more, just just more than the existence
that we this metrix we live in. We be willing
to go beyond the surface. Question things, you know, question everything,

(01:42:26):
types of questions. I have an open mind, is what
I'm going to say. We're in a very interesting time line,
like like I said, and there's a lot I feel
like we've reached a point where we were evolving as
a being. Wait for all these things, all these things
we see things we now learn that everybody is now

(01:42:50):
trying to get on board with a couple of years ago.
If you talk about this twenty tactical, the years we're
going to think you going google but lack of better words.
So so, but now we are, we are embracing it
and they all getting I believe it. It's getting less
dense between our dimensions and other dimensions, and so I

(01:43:11):
think it's gonna be it's gonna be good. But those
of us who are over here, actually it's cushing onto
this because a lot of people are still perfectly domant.
They don't really care about they don't care about what.
All they care about is what they're gonna eat tomorrow
and they're gonna play the build and they're gonna go
to work. Those are the mundane things here. But those
of us who actually are tuned in in to this,

(01:43:33):
it's interesting because we're gonna learn a lot, we're gonna evolve,
and we're gonna end up being the lights. So becurious
to be ac commnded quest showing things get awaken, have
that text to our way. You know from this domance
that we are.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
Thank you beautifully said, and I appreciate you. And I
think a lot of people resonate with that, so we're
all in agreeing and I'm gonna give you the same
opportunity and fifty seconds last words here to the audience.

Speaker 3 (01:44:05):
Ah, I just yeah, don't be afraid of anything like
believe in yourself and believe in what you're experiencing even
if others don't believe you. What you feel and what
you know deep down is what's the truth. If others
aren't ready to know that truth, aren't ready to be
on that same level with you, that's okay. You can

(01:44:28):
still be cool with them. You can try to get
your point across, but if they're not ready, there will
be a time when they're ready. Focus on trust the process.
I believe the veils fitting as well. I think that's
why we're all experiencing more and seeing more. And there's
so much online now with people documenting videos, photos of

(01:44:49):
things that are going. I know with AI now it's
hard to know what is real and what isn't. But
there's still genuine people out there that are sure real
things that are not safe and just try and yeah,
just believe.

Speaker 2 (01:45:03):
Just having open Thank you Cassandra and Christina.

Speaker 4 (01:45:05):
That was being a fun from the both of you.
And also things to everyone that's stuck around. It's been
a while here, but troopers out there. Both of your
points I fully agree with one hundred percent. Be curious,
stay open minded, have that drive to learn more. And
on the other end of that, which I'm also working on,
is stay grounded too, into your reality, into your experience

(01:45:26):
here on earth as the person are. Because all of
this was created right by who knows who, or all
of us collectively as one thing coming from source. So
there is a point and a purpose for all of
us being here. And as much as all these topics
are beyond fascinating, let's remember to give attention to the

(01:45:46):
people around us that we love and fulfill that purpose,
whatever that was for us to be here, so that
source itself can grow and it can learn.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Love it, love it. Everybody had something amazing to say,
as I know you always would, so tonight with special
we opened up a new branch of this show by
doing these live panels. Our first pioneers for this panel
is Cassandra Ebenezer and Christina. Thank you for showing up
courageously and sharing your perspective and in your thoughts. I

(01:46:16):
appreciate it. The audience appreciate it, and I know you
guys appreciate it too.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Yeah. I had a blast, and I love your guys' opinions.
I appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
It was so nice to put on a personality and
the whole thing to you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
Yeah, I think it's amazing. I think we've been talking
for back and forth for quite a while and we
shared some interesting thing about the discord. It's awesome to
be able to see what we're talking to behind that
is and also put some two weeks and I think
this is a great thing to do from Sison now, sisir,

(01:46:53):
I think this is amazing. Be course, when you bring people,
you bring perspectives, and then we all can learn to
get other and grow together and bring those pieces to
those pieces and make it one and and then it
helps to actually push further and probably some inspiration from
from the individual as we learn what everybody is onto,

(01:47:14):
and then we can also be able to you know,
listen by assets and each other. I think it's the
one that put in.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
Yeah, I appreciate it, Evan. That means a lot. And folks,
I can't forget about you either. To the audience, thank
you for being the heartbeat of this community, right you
guys by engaging, by sticking with us for two hours
and some change on listening to these conversations. I know
you guys got to get back to uh, you know,

(01:47:42):
doing life right. And Carlos, You're welcome, absolutely, man. I
do this from from the center of my heart, Okay.
I want to make sure that we have the opportunity
to hear you and to experience you in this fashion
as well. And folks, don't for don't forget. Beyond the frequency.
Three sixty nine dot com is my website. Go there
to find out everything about the show, everything about me,

(01:48:05):
what we're doing, and things like that. We're on YouTube,
We're on Spotify, We're on iHeartRadio, Apple podcasts, these are Amazon,
We're everywhere else. Just tune in, listen. One of these
conversations is going to help you remember who you truly
are before the world convince you otherwise. And as always,
continue to ask questions. Don't be afraid to pull back

(01:48:26):
the current and take a deeper look. Push forward, always
reaching beyond the frequency.

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