November 13, 2025 • 56 mins
Rabbi & Uni reflect on personal growth, historical resistance in Black communities, and lessons from Claude Anderson’s Dirty Little Secrets. The speakers compare past and present systems of power, stressing the importance of financial literacy, collective action, and protecting community interests — including concerns like East Cleveland’s future. They emphasize the value of Black-owned resources, cultural pride, and avoiding dependency or seeking validation outside the community. Ultimately, they call for preparation, unity, and building independent systems to support and protect the community.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
As we used to say, all sukie suky, good afternoon.
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rabbi and also the black unicorny bringing you today's episode. Ual.
(00:32):
We we've been kind of looking over the weekend. Well,
you know, how was your weekend? Unia? Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, it was cool? All right, all right, life is life.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'm just going to continue my prayers and breaths at
this present time.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But you know, life is life and huh okay, yes,
all right, interesting, all right?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Am I cool? Styles? Am I good?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
But thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So we you know, we we we live and we learn,
uh there there's there's there are times when when we
wonder if we made the right decisions. Then there are
times when we uh we we know, okay, and then
times we know what we did we did make the
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right decision. And in the times we know we made
the wrong decision.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
All right, and then it's time you feel like very
confident in your decision and then your mama talked to you,
and then you're like, oh my god, did I'll make
a mistake.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
And maybe you didn't, because you know, from mama's perspective,
for what happened with her in her time and her decisions,
you may not have, you may not be doing the
same things.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Are doing it out of fear of not ending up
like her?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, yes, right, Okay, I know my mom my mother. Again.
It's recent, in just last year or so, that I
came to understand my mother and much of what she
tried to avoid she really ended up driving me into.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay, would you like to elaborate?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
No, I don't want to get into it. But that
was some pot some things that happened to her, all right,
that she tried to keep me from making some of
the same mistakes. But the more she did that, the
more she ended up driving me towards the mistakes she
didn't want me to make. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Can we talk about that, just that realm of humanity
in general, us wanting things that we can't have, us
being pulled away from things that ultimately pushes us towards them.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Briefly, yes, okay, like this, had she not been pushing
me okay, in the direction she was pushed. She didn't
realize she was pushing me away from her mm hm okay,
and so trying to get away from her, I ended
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up doing what she did not want me to do. Okay,
if it makes sense there, Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Just find it interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And that's why long ago I thought I was gonna
be a psychologist, because I just like the way the
mind works properly. Oh yeah, no, it's not too late.
I just don't have interest. I lost interest. It wasn't
like a you know, I went for and failed out
or anything. I lost interest because people are people are people.
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I'll leave it like that. And I also feel like
that's a that's a passion position, Like you have to
have passion for for that To that degree, I have
passion to bring people joy, and I think you have
to have for that realm, you have to have a
passion for helping people make changes and improve themselves.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, the psychologists is that kind of the first step,
because that's where you kind of you're tested to see
what those passions may be. Okay, and then the psychiatrist
leads you towards solution. You know, it's ironic that we're
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talking about this, it almost leads us back into the
This Morning Show. However, I wanted to move towards one
of us in today's conversation, to move towards some of
the rebelliousness that took place. I was looking at in
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terms of the slave community that that came into creation
or into being and on this continent. And I'm looking
at Claude Anderson's book Dirty Little Secrets, and I'm on
page one thirty three, and he has so many facts
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here that I want us to examine. And I posted
on Facebook that the Supreme Court of the nineteenth century,
all right, I think it's nineteenth century or eighteenth century
was fairer than the Supreme Court of today in terms
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of making decisions based on human nature and not political ideology. Hmm,
what's right for other human beings rather than what's right
for the political party.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Do you think that came along with the monarch just
being a monarch itself and having to deliberate for people
and make those decisions for it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I think I think it came about moving away from
my anarchy okay, okay, okay, and and trying to establish
themselves differently than the king system you know the monarchy
system alright, drove us all right, drove the and again
to go back to what we talked about this morning again,
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the American Constitution and Bill of Rights is almost a
carbon uh, a pleedgized copy of the African Constitution and
Bill Rights that was in the existence about five thousand
years before America was thought about. Okay, And so uh
(06:41):
again we we have not we we give credibility to
the system now because it is it has taken our system,
if you will, and they use it for their best interests, yes, okay.
And what we need to do is to study it
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and begin to turn it around and use it for
our best interest. But I wanna go back. Uh here
he talks about there were scoundrels, but they but were
were but they were our scoundrels. Between sixteen ninety nine
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and eighteen forty five, as many as fifty slave mutinies
at Seed took place. One of the most n noteworthy
was the Amistard Revolt, when fifty four slaves seized the ship,
sailed into New York and won their freedom in a
celebrated Supreme Court case that couldnt happen today under the
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political uh uh climate that we okay, they would be
arrested and uh and imprisoned alright, uh and uh made
to look like like the perpetrators rather than victims. All right,
then he goes on. In seventeen eleven, a number of
frightened white citizens petitioned the governor of South Carolina to
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post a reward of fifty pounds for the capture of Sebastian,
the feared leader of the band of raiders and runaway
black slaves. In seventeen seventy and seventeen thirty five, black
slaves revolted against the Dolphin, overtaking the crew and that captain.
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But both the captives and the captives were killed in
an explosion aboard that ship. But still it had happened.
In April eighteenth, eighteen eighteen, Andrew Jackson fought the Battle
of Swanee, Florida, against a force of Native Americans and
Black Jackson and blacks. Jackson won, but characterized it as
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a savage and Negro war with that war went on
for forty two years MMMM before Jackson won. Right. One
of the longest words that the United States was ever
in and so uh again, it's the kinds of stuff
it's the kinds of things that that uh, we don't
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we uh, we don't know, we don't take advantage of.
And I'm not pro proposing that we overthrow the government.
I'm not saying that, but I believe there are things
that we can do to take and be sure, uh
that we leverage what I I what is for us
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rather than for other other other people I'm looking at.
I don't know, I haven't done the research, but I
just saw flash on my on my smartphone that the
state of Ohio is trying to eliminate the city of
East Cleveland. I know they're talking about moving it towards
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receivership uh huh, but now they will uh they're talk
of the state representative at the time, one need a
rent Is uh was sharing that there's a move to
uh to eliminate the s the East Cleveland as a
city altogether based on certain.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Behaviors behaviors interesting uh, behaviors of their city's officials or
the community members.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I think the community at large. I think the community
at large, uh, mostly because uh, well, you've had the
mayor get indicted and I think convicted city planner director. Uh,
(10:58):
you've had upheval and in terms of uh uh city councilmen. Uh,
there have been city councilmen who have been charged with
using uh city resources for personal purposes. You've had money
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and not available to repair streets. The infrastructures are crumbling.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Literally literally literally.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Guards even the businesses who stayed there to be a
tax base have moved on. And so uh we see
the possibility of the city going into receivership. But then my, my, my,
my contention becomes, why didn't something happen before? Now, okay,
(11:56):
to to save the city. All right, you had the
uh COVID money all right coming to or the county.
A half of was a half a billion dollars, five
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hundred million dollars. You mean to tell me it's for me, okay,
rather than giving Palmer three million dollars to build a
clubhouse on the golf course. That money couldn't have gone
into East Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, it absolutely could have.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But why would they do that when they could continue
to let it die, get all of that property for
dirt cheap and redeveloped that entire city in the image
that they would like it to be.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, you have you have a point there, You do
have a point and then there might be some prime properties.
Oh alright that somebody else wants, you know, yes, yeah,
and I I noticed that. You know, see, you have
to one thing, one of the things we have to
pay attention to for instant Job Corps has been closed
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and it's on the if it's not in East Cleveland,
it's right on the border, which is close to the lake. Alright. Uh.
And I don't know if you know it or not,
but this administration, federal administration, since they have defunded, they
have ordered that all job course uh sites be demolished demolished, yes, yes,
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And they have gone in already and taken the beds out,
the TV's out. I mean they they stripped the places. Okay.
Mm and they they are d designated to be demolished
rather than maybe someone else who has the money who
could come back in mm alright and re establish okay established.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, the Job Corps of privately facility.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yes, you can make it as domestic violence facific It's
so many things you could do with this space that
they clearly don't want anything positive coming out of this space.
And they want that land in every city, not just Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So that tells me you know that perhaps there's something
to miss there a miss, and then why can't the
black community come together.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And try to buy it?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
It could be our community center.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Or something else Little Africa.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, anyway, either way, whatever we chose to make it
for us, we should have that option. But the fact
that we're going straight into demolition.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yes, that that tells you something. There no no, no, no, no,
no public comment hearings anything, just the demolition and uh
available to developers.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, we don't want to hear nothing from the community
and what they have to say about this, which is
co crazy because that's not democracy.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And freedom, freedom and liberty. Yeah, your freedom and liberty. Yes,
all right, but we we we are lib We're at liberty. See,
that's what we do. We're at liberty to come together
and put our peys together. Yes, alright, but then we
have the Slocum Texas. Alright, let's see deep Elam Texas. Uh,
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you have Black Wall Street, Yeah, Rosewood, Devil's Punch Bowl, Elaine, Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
What is doable because we also have Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well, but but that's that's that Atlanta was after the
destruct the original destruction.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
We can do it.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, Okay, he done, or the rebuilding of Greenwood and
a Tulsa right, Well, they came back and destroyed it
the second time. So we know that the violence is
going to be perpetrated, So why don't we do it
in such a way where we are prepared for those
kinds of repercussions or pushbacks from them.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And strictly for safety.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
No one is talking about going and assaulting some other
place that has nothing to do with us. We are
talking about protecting our own We are talking about our
own safety. We are talking about when someone comes with
bullets our way, with bombs, our way, with lynchings, our way,
that we have mechanisms in place to protect us. And
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now because we're not just letting this isn't the age
of just letting anything happen. As you can see down
what was that Cincinnati Daton on that bridge. Yes they
had a hard time getting back home. Yes, they had
a hard time getting back home. So yes, they are
preparing in secret. They are marching, they are reading. They
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are like you know, battling each other, mma ing with
one another, uf seeing with one another, wrestling with one another.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Excuse me, I couldn't think of the word for some reason.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
But yes, they are wrestling, they are preparing, They are
literally getting combat ready. And what we have seen since
Trump has taken office for the second time is just.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
A teeny tiny bit of.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
The preparation that they have been taking along with Project
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Everybody thought it was a joke, but we see it
in real time.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And well, you're watching, you're watching the militarization of each state,
all right, that he feels that he cannot control all right,
troops being put in to force them into compliance, if
you will. It's very interesting, and it's very interesting how
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we're seeing by watching it happen and almost feeling it
can't happen to us, but it is.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's literally happening.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
And people don't understand not only how the shutdown is
affecting them, they're not understanding how everything that the Orange
Man has been doing since taking office in January is
affecting them directly. You may not see it today, you
may not see it next week, but I promise you
in the next couple of years you will feel it.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
No, I think you're seeing it today. I disagree with
you there. I think we are seeing it today.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
We just don't know what to call it.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I agree with you, I think we are, but people
aren't tuned enough to see it in real time, to
not only know what to call it, but to identify
it as well.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I just I feel, especially with our young people, that
that they feel that they're included. Yeah, and this can
happen to everybody, but he's oblivious. Okay, how old you
say is? Let'll see, I think he turned twenty. Yeah,
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I think he turned twenty.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
They understand. Yeah, no, and they're like very much, so.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Just not again again.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I know.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I don't know like my mother did, I don't know
like my grandfather did, but I know what this thing
tastes like, smell like, looks like okay, sounds like where
you don't have that experience okay at all. And then
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somebody who's twenty years younger than you, okay, definitely don't
have it at all, okay, And and they don't want
to be told that this this is what it looks like,
taste like, smells like, feels like it sounds like.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
They want to forget about it. They want to ignore it,
they want to forget about it. They want to act
like it never happened. We're in a totally different place
today and we're.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Not and we're not. Okay, that's that's even if we are,
they're trying to move it back to when all right,
and I don't want you to have to know what
it smells like, taste like, feels like, sounds like. I
don't want you to have to go through that. But
if that's what's necessary, that may be what's necessary for
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them to understand where we are. Mm hmm all right. So,
but then it comes out to beef. In some instances,
what we call a cell a place of privilege among
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young black people or young people of aff origin uh
and and people who of African origins who think they
are included, right, could be a form of self help
self hate uh and whether they try to remove themselves
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from the blackness of being black all right and be
and be and be equated with and validated. Okay, how
close can I be to the other ethnicity all right?
Rather than how can I claim, reclaim claim or reclaim
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my own authenticity all right and my own reality and
really define myself okay, rather than waiting for them to say, oh,
oh you belong good boy, Yeah you're not like the others.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, I feel like, that's what a lot of people
of African descent in this country strive for to hear
you're not like the others, to hear you're better than
those others.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I've been told, oh years old, that was that was
very you're very smart. Okay, wells, who so what does that?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Because you really don't realize how offensive that is with
your passive blind racism. You don't understand how you are
currently in real time insulting me. So imagine if the
people that are insulting me don't even realize they are
insulting me, how can a young person of African descent
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in this country and that's nineteen years old, realize that
they are being prejudiced against, They are being in a
we put in a position where they are and salted
and they don't even realize.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
They say, thank you, thank you so much. Oh my god,
I've been waiting to hear this.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Well the right the white validation, if you will, okay,
and you know, then we want to go on to
and we don't understand that this self hate. Uh and
Borol shares with us that this is the foundation for disunity. Okay,
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because if I accept the fact that I'm different. Oh
you know, you know you're different from the others. Okay,
Oh you're you're so intelligent, yo, you're you know, Oh
you you articulate so well what you know what I
just yeah? Right, okay.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And that person you're not supposed to though, Yes, you're
shocking to them to encounter someone of your stature, of
your addiction, of just your everything, and to walk in
with all oozing, all that black riz, all this rich blackness,
all this soul and still be able to articulate yourself
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and still be able to move in a room and
the way you're trusted, the way you talk, the way
you everything.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Well, also to them to throw that off, I feel,
is to move away from the old plantation founder plantation
foundation that has been laying with us, okay, and and
move us away from being plantation protectors.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Plantation protectors, y'are so busy trying to protect the protest.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Uncle rugas was Uncle Rua, Yes, okay, plantation protectors. And
so I think that foundation was laid doing doing during
early slavery days. But then after the UH Emancipation Proclamation
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and reconstruction and new reconstruction UH to some degree, the
Kraal gate has been opened, all right, and so we
can't really at this point close them again. But we
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can take and put bridles on the horses and control them, okay,
through the educational process where we we're in control of
the curriculum and we teach it in such a way
where it perpetuates the dominant culture as the superior culture. Uh,
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and anything less than the ones who are in control, right,
and and so then we're the superior. We're we're superior.
W You're only superior because you're in control.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
There is nothing else about you besides that.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And you're keeping control because you're more violent. I if
if I'm making sense, it's like.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
A bully maintaining control over everyone.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes. Uh. If you compare black man and black woman
of America to other organized nations around the globe, we
find that no other people was such a particular peculiar
type of psychology or psychological basis for socializing with one
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another within the mental parameters of the so called freed slave.
Lies m your oppressor's idea of ecrippling self sabotaged behavior.
Just so if we don't measure up, all right, it's
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you you almost self sabotage.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I forget it. I can't even you.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
You give up on yourself before you even try, before
you even put your your anything out there, before you
even educate yourself on how to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You say, I can't do that, that's not possible.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And not only that, but we try to keep one
another from crowd the crab mentality for climbing out of
you know.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yes, instead of pushing each other up and out and
pulling each other up.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But my question becomes in that is that a false narrative?
Is it is the crab? Is the crab below reaching
up to pull the other one down, but reaching up
to grab holes so they both can be pulled out?
Is it? I don't know, cause okay, but we have
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we have been taught that's what it is, and so
we blindly accept again somebody else's definition of what's taking place.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
See now I feel like I have to go boys
some crabs and see for myself.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Okay, all right, well.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Okay, let them just with no lid?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Is the glass half full of if it's half empty?
All right? Could it not be both?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
It?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Is? It is? Okay? Okay? Yes, it could be that. Oh,
I see you're up there and you're on your way out,
let me grab hole, so as you on your way out,
I can and then maybe the next person can grab you, know,
so maybe just only you getting out, okay, because if
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that one crab gets out, is he gonna reach back
and get another crab and pull him up.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I'm very much so like a put me on person.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I'm very much so like I'm gonna put you on,
like I'm gonna tell you about it. And if we
got that mentality with each other a lot more in
a lot of different realms.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
We'll be pushed to the moon.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And then sometimes is it is it that we don't
I've had uh uh something stuck in my tooth for
three years okay, and could have been a source of
irritation f t for me m for three years the
dinist couldn't get it out, alright, Okay, today it came out.
(29:39):
Was it time you just had to wait for time? Okay, alright?
Or was it I finally did the right thing to
get it out and it was really a piece of
plant or silicon or something like that was stuck okay.
Uh And and my tooth in between or in between
my teeth alright, So are we using one of the
(30:03):
right methods, okay, or or is it time I I
I think I think it's more that we're not using
the right methods mm hm uh and and to throw
away I'm I I and I I I don't really
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like doing this, But I look at my I went
to HBCU, and I look at the students that those
of us who went to HBCU's over against those who
went to other institutions. And there's a difference in the
(30:47):
functionality mm uh and the uh the confidence mm like
socially you mean no, just just you know, there's just
a k the confidence in my ability to perform.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You feel like our higher phrase. Well, you see, you grads.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Are better better able to have more confidence in being
able to function.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Why do you think is.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
In part? I don't. I don't think it's it's the answer,
but it may be one of many answers. Is that
one of the institutions to hbc used you have to
matriculate in a different kind of way to to graduate
all right, and and that that that that that that
(31:44):
working the system to get out of it all right
is different than working the system of uh, say, the
schools that operated by the dominant culture. I think that
the dominant culture is almost set that if you do
the academic work, alright, don't y yeah yeah yeah yeah,
(32:04):
okay yeah, But in the HBCUs there's some other challenges
that have to be navigated. The money may not always
be there, okay, uh, like it is maybe at Ohio
State versus a Wilberforce or Central State. Okay, the uh
(32:31):
the amount of the if you have a certain gpa, uh,
you can get into Ohio State, alright, just on your GPA,
mm say safe a student has a full uh uh.
Just hypothetically, a student who graduates from high school with
a straight age alright, automatically goes to can go to
(32:55):
a state school alright, and his tuition, uh, room and
board is paid for. All he has to do is
buy his books and his personal money. That does not
apply to Wilberforce or Centralcy necessarily. Okay. And so now
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you may not be able to get in, like you're
graduating this coming June. You may may not be able
to get in in August. You may have to go
to Bowling Green alright, but you will eventually in uh
uh Ohio State at Mansfield, you know something like that,
the Mansfield location. But you're in the the state, that
(33:37):
state system. If if I'm making m making myself clear there,
so that's it, it's it. That's kind of uh uh
I I I feel the kind of uh uh I
I listen to some people who have they have all that,
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they have all the uh, all the colde languages, all
the terms, all the trends mm, but they can't they
don't know how to matriculate. M use 'em to. They're sitting,
they're they're sitting demonstrating that they know the terms, they
(34:19):
know the trends, they know. Okay, it's like having a
uh a a I I give you it a example.
It's having a toolbox of all the modern tools, alright,
and you can sit and tell what's in your toolbox
cause you don't know how to use one of 'em.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Mm.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay that I if I that that's a oversimplification, Yeah,
but that's that's kind of what I I I feel
is uh happens. And then when you uh, when you
look at look at the you look at oh man,
(35:05):
uh the people the people who black, white, green, and purple.
For instance, seven hundred and fifty thousand people have been furloughed.
Uh uh in the federal government from this uh shutdown?
How do you really they are seven hundred and fifty
(35:25):
thousand people who make the government, make the government work.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
They said they'll get more.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Huh, they'll get more. Okay, they gonna get more. They
gonna pay those others that they are.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
No, they're not that, they're not less. No, they're not.
See that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
So they're not gonna be paid at all once the
shut is over.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
And from what I'm hearing, these seven hundred and fifty
thousand furloughs are permanent, permanent layoffs. They feel the government
it's it's top heavy.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
So they're not even interested in replacing. No, these people.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
No, you remember your boy said he was gonna drain
the swamp. I I.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Okay, alright right by are you f alright?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Alright, alright, alright. So if if I'm gonna control, okay,
the more the the fewer people I have in place
to get the job done. Okay, One, the more I
can control, and two, the more money I saved to
give back to No, how are.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Things going to efficiently and effectively be ran?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Well, where you have ten people doing now, one person
is gonna have to be done. Do it mm hm mkay.
And what he's saying is they th they believe that
one person can do what ten people have been doing.
Mm and but also but well and also now you
(37:07):
also have the possibility of digital employees. Yes, of course,
so bots can. Will we be doing some of the replacements?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Of course? Of course. All you gotta do is programming.
Once have somebody the program.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
One person, a man. The robots. The robots ain't going.
Don't need vacation. Uh, they don't need the weekends and
holidays off. Okay. Oh see, I mean that is when
we look at this. So then then then if we're
already at the bottom of the wrong okay, where does
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that leave us as other people get displaced themselves.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It leaves us worrying about ourselves.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
No, it doesn't leave us. It leaves us becoming forgetting
us other foolishness. And you're find I said.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
It leaves us to focus on our yes okay, and
focus on our people, our community that should look like
where it should be, all of those things. That's what
we need to focus on it and get on one
the core for it. I understand people have plans out here.
I understand that people have objectives, and they want to
(38:28):
make sure that their own objectives are.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
To go for They want to go to the funders
who are displacing them. And people, listen, you can't ride
to freedom on Pharaoh's chariot, all right. You know, you
can't eat the oppressives food and think you're gonna be
free from him. Hello, can't sit it this table and
(38:56):
be free also, And so we have to have we
have to be well some we have to develop our
own okay, resources and put them in place. Right, that's
that's again and now again. No, uh, maybe maybe, and
(39:17):
that's some people who will take better task on this.
Maybe separate and equal really works better for us.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Maybe, right, I'm going to try it again, right.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I know, I know I'm better prepared to balance my
checkbook than my grandson. M M. I know I'm better.
He he's better. He's in a better position to make
more money than I am. All right, but I'm in
(39:53):
a better position to balance my checkbook than he is.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
If you can't manage, what you're bringing is coming right
back out, so it doesn't matter, it doesn't It is
coming right back out.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
So these are the kinds of things that we Okay,
I'm better able. Even my son okay, okay, who does
not have property, has four cars but doesn't have his
own house. HM. And he has four cars that each
(40:26):
year those four cars go down in value. Right, Well,
if he had his own house, it's going up in value.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yes, I know, I definitely And transparency, transparency, transparency or.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
W Look, I am was not the most financially disciplined person.
I just wasn't Like a lot of African descented folks,
we are.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Not naturally taught that.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
We don't get sit down and talk about portfolios like
other ethnicities.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
So what I did.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I knew my dad was better with money.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
I let him hold my money until I was comfortable
with myself and I had enough self discipline to be
able to hold my own money. And then I opened
numerous different types of accounts for this and that and
so on and so forth. But that comes with educating
yourself on financial literacy. It's just you just have to
if you haven't been taught these things, you have to
take those extra strides.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
So I'm just imploring you.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
All again to plooring to yourself whatever way that may
look like for you at this present time. However comfort
level you are at at this present time. You got
to start somewhere, just do it.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
But the institution, the peculiar institution of slavery, all right
and the after effects all right, First us to be
financially literate, h yes, because we could not put our
moneyes into black banks. So how did we become during
(42:07):
that period of time economically one solvent two in position
to buy land?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I mean you say you mean white banks, right, we.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Can up any white banks, yes, well, at and during
the at the at the end of at during the reconstruction,
there were no black banks right even up until the
do through the depression, alright, y you you talking about
uh the sixty five to uh the twenties at sixty
(42:38):
years later, alright, we're financially able to save Cadillac Rum,
alright because white folks had their money in the white system, alright,
and the white system collapsed and they were killing themselves
(42:58):
and we were sitting fat still eating collar greens, cold bread.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Do you think the system doing this again?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I see it in part, yes, all right, because.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
People have a nest egg of cash and survivor kick.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I think if you take it out of the out
of the black white banks.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Put in black banks, credit unions, floor boat.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
House.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
You have to diversify the same weeks for sure, because
you never know what's gonna happen. You just don't and
you know, Lord forbid, we don't.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Again, we're not trying to incite any anxiety is into anyone,
but this is a season of preparation.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Mm hmm. Well what about gold and gyms? Yes, gold,
silver and gems, gymstones, gyms.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Absolutely. I love me a beautiful pearl, but yes.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
So there are things happening globally alright that we're not paid.
We we we're looking at Lily for turn to Gucci alright,
rather than looking at what's happening glob globally.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
A lot of people don't even know. We're in a
shutdown right now.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
You you you absolutely right about that.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Are you gonna shut down y'all cause you didn't know?
Speaker 2 (44:28):
And and and and now there's a there's a chance
that you may have a mutiny in in the military
because law enforcement and military people right now are going unpaid.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
How long do you think they, as in the military
will go without.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I don't know, I I you know, I don't know, mm,
I I don't know.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I know when I was in the army and these
things would occur. They normally didn't last longer than two weeks.
These things happen, shutdowns happened.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
The last one happened was thirty five days right.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Again under the Trump administration early twenty twenty. No late
twenty twenty, excuse me, but they happened before in like
twenty ten, twenty twelve, things of that years, those years
back then, and they didn't last longer in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
I was a soldier and I still went to.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Work and everything, like everything was everything because you get
to a certain point when you're in the service where
you are, you know, just to take the orders.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
That's your job to take orders, whether you're getting paid
or not.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Had that time because it got to the point, you know,
two weeks is a little scary.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
You already you're missing that's a full you know, pacem y. Yeah,
it's a full pay cycle.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
So it was.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Discussions in the bay of Okay, if this continues, what
will happen? And bay is pretty much like a garage
warpace for work, depending on their jobs and what do
they do. I was a mechanic, so I worked in
the mechanic's bay. I was a mechanic for weapons anything
from a N nine to a triple seven houser.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Mainly Maroons use those those big houser So you.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Know, going back, I one of the things I think
we have to look at again is a crabby of
barrel mentality. For when there are are those of us
who strive to do something or be something other than
a servant of the a uh oppressors system, we find
ourselves being hated by people are oh of our uh,
(46:38):
of our kin and kind? Ok M. And then who
sh who show us no love? Where does the w
First we have to find where does this kind of
thinking come from?
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Mm?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
This self hatred? Is it? Is it a n a
chemically fixated part of black men and women? What? H
What can we if it's chemically induced because of s
A circumstances, an environment cause a certain chemical reaction, how
do we take and neutralize it? How do we take
(47:23):
in how do we investigate genetically psychologically the afro centric
social sciences m HM, so that we can take and
(47:48):
do some social engineering if you will, do you.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Think I mean MM social engineering?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Okay, i'm'a asking bas based from a black perspective, Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Is that pretty much like how korans and yes, I
figure in.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
The rights of passage quansa yes.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Right, implementing those rituals and those.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Just but it didn't take hold in the masses. Yes, okay,
that's how do we get it to take hold in
the masses? Okay, so that we can so that it
can become culturalized.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
And like a cultural standard. Yes, that's the thing. Making
it a cultural standard.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Becomes a core value, core value value. Yes, yes, So.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Why that triggered the quants of thought because that's basically
how it was. Introducing those afrocentric sociolo ideas is so
so important to retrain our brains.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
And also it negates it's so it's it's so important
to understand Greek Leonard organizations. They're not Greek organizations. They're
Greek Leonard organizations that are steeped in black culture, black
and black history. Even the Masons, all right, and the Masons,
(49:26):
although they have taken and incorporated the Scottish Rites or
York rights masonry, masonry is African. Hello, yes, but they're
people who are seeing all right, all right, and as
(49:47):
part of the self hate because they're striving the black
the Greek Leonard organizations, the Masons, the Shriners, because who
are striving at a different level than everybody else. You
have you try to take and and and paint it
as something European, and it is not. It's not.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
It's not. And if the Euros want to do that
for themselves and they're organizing, they.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Take, they take it, and they're utilizing our systems again
for their benefit.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Could a private black chapter sue a white chapter.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
No.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
The alphabet is the alphabet, you know, How can I
sue you for being a and and and and the
Greek alphabet is.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
A and O intellectual property.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
No, it's it's it's it's it's the it's the alphabet
of everybody.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
But what it represents to you.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
But now if you take it, try to use it,
if you try to use the same letters that I
use in conjunction with you, okay, okay, all right, Oh
make a sigh five. Okay, Now that becomes a different thing.
Now you can say omega five, okay, but you can't
use it as omega PSI five. Okay.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
When it comes to just real quick, on our way out,
when it comes to black Greek organizations, was there a
reason they chose to stay Greek and not induce comm
gods or Egyptian gods.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Or I think because again because in this country, basically
it's where the Greek organizations began. Okay, Greek lettered organizations
began then and then start in Europe. Okay, So it
was in this country that you got Greek. And so
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what happened is that we could not get into the
white Greek lettered organizations.
Speaker 5 (51:55):
So we started all we don't leave, y'all. And now
they're fighting to get into so okay, okay, okay, all right,
so that's okay. Cornell University, all right, was where they
kind of started.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Uh. You had the Boulets, which was the first black
Greek lettered organization, okay uh. And they became they they
were so exclusive that this is just a brief I'm
not going into the deep deep stuff, right, just s superficially. Uh.
(52:31):
You had to be a doctor's or a lawyer's son
to become a bulet.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
And so they had girlfriends, and the girlfriends all the
guys in the Bulets kind of quit their girlfriends and
the girlfriends got new boyfriends and convinced them to start
another organization called Alpha Phi Alpha and then they created
uh Aka Alpha Kappa.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Alphakay, real quick, do you agree that with the statement?
Because this statement has been thrown around a lot for
some reason in my atmosphere recently. Where as America is
the new room, would you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (53:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Rum really didn't rule anything?
Speaker 3 (53:27):
And what I hear, I think maybe if they said
the new Greece or Greeks, I still can't.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
I can't jig with that statement.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Basically, I think when America started out kind of being
and got away from all, right, was being the new
the the the the new Israel.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Get away from it?
Speaker 2 (53:56):
And Jonathan Khan uh Demonstrations said in his book uh
the Harbinger and the Mystery of the Shamita. Mm you
remember by whom Jonathan Kahn? Oh, thank you k K
A K A h A N. I think it is
(54:21):
Mystery of the Shamita s h E M I T
A H. I think it is okay, okay, the Mystery
of Shamita and the Horbar read the Harbinger first, okay,
and then the Mystery of the Shamita.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
I will do that and so people get also. I
I'd love for you to get uh the Color of
Law by Rothstein R O T H S T E
I N and get uh breaking the Curse of Willie Lynch.
The wil Lynch papers or letters are not authentic, but
(55:05):
the system that it illustrates is real. The methods that
they use to colonize, terrorize, domesticate, and condition the slaves
in this country. That system did exist, does exist and
(55:27):
is existing, and so we need to understand that. Okay,
all right, listen, you got any final words before we
get out of here.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
I just say they provise as on gifts. Just make
sure to open your eyes and look around.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
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(00:32):
We we've been kind of looking over the weekend. Well,
you know, how was your weekend? Unia? Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, it was cool? All right, all right, life is life.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'm just going to continue my prayers and breaths at
this present time.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
But you know, life is life and huh okay, yes,
all right, interesting, all right?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Am I cool? Styles? Am I good?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
But thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So we you know, we we we live and we learn,
uh there there's there's there are times when when we
wonder if we made the right decisions. Then there are
times when we uh we we know, okay, and then
times we know what we did we did make the
(01:25):
right decision. And in the times we know we made
the wrong decision.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
All right, and then it's time you feel like very
confident in your decision and then your mama talked to you,
and then you're like, oh my god, did I'll make
a mistake.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
And maybe you didn't, because you know, from mama's perspective,
for what happened with her in her time and her decisions,
you may not have, you may not be doing the
same things.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Are doing it out of fear of not ending up
like her?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, yes, right, Okay, I know my mom my mother. Again.
It's recent, in just last year or so, that I
came to understand my mother and much of what she
tried to avoid she really ended up driving me into.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay, would you like to elaborate?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
No, I don't want to get into it. But that
was some pot some things that happened to her, all right,
that she tried to keep me from making some of
the same mistakes. But the more she did that, the
more she ended up driving me towards the mistakes she
didn't want me to make. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Can we talk about that, just that realm of humanity
in general, us wanting things that we can't have, us
being pulled away from things that ultimately pushes us towards them.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Briefly, yes, okay, like this, had she not been pushing
me okay, in the direction she was pushed. She didn't
realize she was pushing me away from her mm hm okay,
and so trying to get away from her, I ended
(03:11):
up doing what she did not want me to do. Okay,
if it makes sense there, Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Just find it interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And that's why long ago I thought I was gonna
be a psychologist, because I just like the way the
mind works properly. Oh yeah, no, it's not too late.
I just don't have interest. I lost interest. It wasn't
like a you know, I went for and failed out
or anything. I lost interest because people are people are people.
(03:41):
I'll leave it like that. And I also feel like
that's a that's a passion position, Like you have to
have passion for for that To that degree, I have
passion to bring people joy, and I think you have
to have for that realm, you have to have a
passion for helping people make changes and improve themselves.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Well, the psychologists is that kind of the first step,
because that's where you kind of you're tested to see
what those passions may be. Okay, and then the psychiatrist
leads you towards solution. You know, it's ironic that we're
(04:26):
talking about this, it almost leads us back into the
This Morning Show. However, I wanted to move towards one
of us in today's conversation, to move towards some of
the rebelliousness that took place. I was looking at in
(04:47):
terms of the slave community that that came into creation
or into being and on this continent. And I'm looking
at Claude Anderson's book Dirty Little Secrets, and I'm on
page one thirty three, and he has so many facts
(05:10):
here that I want us to examine. And I posted
on Facebook that the Supreme Court of the nineteenth century,
all right, I think it's nineteenth century or eighteenth century
was fairer than the Supreme Court of today in terms
(05:30):
of making decisions based on human nature and not political ideology. Hmm,
what's right for other human beings rather than what's right
for the political party.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Do you think that came along with the monarch just
being a monarch itself and having to deliberate for people
and make those decisions for it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I think I think it came about moving away from
my anarchy okay, okay, okay, and and trying to establish
themselves differently than the king system you know the monarchy
system alright, drove us all right, drove the and again
to go back to what we talked about this morning again,
(06:20):
the American Constitution and Bill of Rights is almost a
carbon uh, a pleedgized copy of the African Constitution and
Bill Rights that was in the existence about five thousand
years before America was thought about. Okay, And so uh
(06:41):
again we we have not we we give credibility to
the system now because it is it has taken our system,
if you will, and they use it for their best interests, yes, okay.
And what we need to do is to study it
(07:03):
and begin to turn it around and use it for
our best interest. But I wanna go back. Uh here
he talks about there were scoundrels, but they but were
were but they were our scoundrels. Between sixteen ninety nine
(07:24):
and eighteen forty five, as many as fifty slave mutinies
at Seed took place. One of the most n noteworthy
was the Amistard Revolt, when fifty four slaves seized the ship,
sailed into New York and won their freedom in a
celebrated Supreme Court case that couldnt happen today under the
(07:46):
political uh uh climate that we okay, they would be
arrested and uh and imprisoned alright, uh and uh made
to look like like the perpetrators rather than victims. All right,
then he goes on. In seventeen eleven, a number of
frightened white citizens petitioned the governor of South Carolina to
(08:11):
post a reward of fifty pounds for the capture of Sebastian,
the feared leader of the band of raiders and runaway
black slaves. In seventeen seventy and seventeen thirty five, black
slaves revolted against the Dolphin, overtaking the crew and that captain.
(08:32):
But both the captives and the captives were killed in
an explosion aboard that ship. But still it had happened.
In April eighteenth, eighteen eighteen, Andrew Jackson fought the Battle
of Swanee, Florida, against a force of Native Americans and
Black Jackson and blacks. Jackson won, but characterized it as
(08:56):
a savage and Negro war with that war went on
for forty two years MMMM before Jackson won. Right. One
of the longest words that the United States was ever
in and so uh again, it's the kinds of stuff
it's the kinds of things that that uh, we don't
(09:20):
we uh, we don't know, we don't take advantage of.
And I'm not pro proposing that we overthrow the government.
I'm not saying that, but I believe there are things
that we can do to take and be sure, uh
that we leverage what I I what is for us
(09:42):
rather than for other other other people I'm looking at.
I don't know, I haven't done the research, but I
just saw flash on my on my smartphone that the
state of Ohio is trying to eliminate the city of
East Cleveland. I know they're talking about moving it towards
(10:04):
receivership uh huh, but now they will uh they're talk
of the state representative at the time, one need a
rent Is uh was sharing that there's a move to
uh to eliminate the s the East Cleveland as a
city altogether based on certain.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Behaviors behaviors interesting uh, behaviors of their city's officials or
the community members.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I think the community at large. I think the community
at large, uh, mostly because uh, well, you've had the
mayor get indicted and I think convicted city planner director. Uh,
(10:58):
you've had upheval and in terms of uh uh city councilmen. Uh,
there have been city councilmen who have been charged with
using uh city resources for personal purposes. You've had money
(11:22):
and not available to repair streets. The infrastructures are crumbling.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Literally literally literally.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Guards even the businesses who stayed there to be a
tax base have moved on. And so uh we see
the possibility of the city going into receivership. But then my, my, my,
my contention becomes, why didn't something happen before? Now, okay,
(11:56):
to to save the city. All right, you had the
uh COVID money all right coming to or the county.
A half of was a half a billion dollars, five
(12:19):
hundred million dollars. You mean to tell me it's for me, okay,
rather than giving Palmer three million dollars to build a
clubhouse on the golf course. That money couldn't have gone
into East Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, it absolutely could have.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
But why would they do that when they could continue
to let it die, get all of that property for
dirt cheap and redeveloped that entire city in the image
that they would like it to be.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, you have you have a point there, You do
have a point and then there might be some prime properties.
Oh alright that somebody else wants, you know, yes, yeah,
and I I noticed that. You know, see, you have
to one thing, one of the things we have to
pay attention to for instant Job Corps has been closed
(13:13):
and it's on the if it's not in East Cleveland,
it's right on the border, which is close to the lake. Alright. Uh.
And I don't know if you know it or not,
but this administration, federal administration, since they have defunded, they
have ordered that all job course uh sites be demolished demolished, yes, yes,
(13:38):
And they have gone in already and taken the beds out,
the TV's out. I mean they they stripped the places. Okay.
Mm and they they are d designated to be demolished
rather than maybe someone else who has the money who
could come back in mm alright and re establish okay established.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, the Job Corps of privately facility.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yes, you can make it as domestic violence facific It's
so many things you could do with this space that
they clearly don't want anything positive coming out of this space.
And they want that land in every city, not just Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
So that tells me you know that perhaps there's something
to miss there a miss, and then why can't the
black community come together.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And try to buy it?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
It could be our community center.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Or something else Little Africa.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, anyway, either way, whatever we chose to make it
for us, we should have that option. But the fact
that we're going straight into demolition.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yes, that that tells you something. There no no, no, no, no,
no public comment hearings anything, just the demolition and uh
available to developers.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, we don't want to hear nothing from the community
and what they have to say about this, which is
co crazy because that's not democracy.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
And freedom, freedom and liberty. Yeah, your freedom and liberty. Yes,
all right, but we we we are lib We're at liberty. See,
that's what we do. We're at liberty to come together
and put our peys together. Yes, alright, but then we
have the Slocum Texas. Alright, let's see deep Elam Texas. Uh,
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you have Black Wall Street, Yeah, Rosewood, Devil's Punch Bowl, Elaine, Arkansas.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
What is doable because we also have Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well, but but that's that's that Atlanta was after the
destruct the original destruction.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
We can do it.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, Okay, he done, or the rebuilding of Greenwood and
a Tulsa right, Well, they came back and destroyed it
the second time. So we know that the violence is
going to be perpetrated, So why don't we do it
in such a way where we are prepared for those
kinds of repercussions or pushbacks from them.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And strictly for safety.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
No one is talking about going and assaulting some other
place that has nothing to do with us. We are
talking about protecting our own We are talking about our
own safety. We are talking about when someone comes with
bullets our way, with bombs, our way, with lynchings, our way,
that we have mechanisms in place to protect us. And
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now because we're not just letting this isn't the age
of just letting anything happen. As you can see down
what was that Cincinnati Daton on that bridge. Yes they
had a hard time getting back home. Yes, they had
a hard time getting back home. So yes, they are
preparing in secret. They are marching, they are reading. They
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are like you know, battling each other, mma ing with
one another, uf seeing with one another, wrestling with one another.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Excuse me, I couldn't think of the word for some reason.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
But yes, they are wrestling, they are preparing, They are
literally getting combat ready. And what we have seen since
Trump has taken office for the second time is just.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
A teeny tiny bit of.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
The preparation that they have been taking along with Project
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Everybody thought it was a joke, but we see it
in real time.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And well, you're watching, you're watching the militarization of each state,
all right, that he feels that he cannot control all right,
troops being put in to force them into compliance, if
you will. It's very interesting, and it's very interesting how
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we're seeing by watching it happen and almost feeling it
can't happen to us, but it is.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It's literally happening.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
And people don't understand not only how the shutdown is
affecting them, they're not understanding how everything that the Orange
Man has been doing since taking office in January is
affecting them directly. You may not see it today, you
may not see it next week, but I promise you
in the next couple of years you will feel it.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
No, I think you're seeing it today. I disagree with
you there. I think we are seeing it today.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
We just don't know what to call it.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
I agree with you, I think we are, but people
aren't tuned enough to see it in real time, to
not only know what to call it, but to identify
it as well.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I just I feel, especially with our young people, that
that they feel that they're included. Yeah, and this can
happen to everybody, but he's oblivious. Okay, how old you
say is? Let'll see, I think he turned twenty. Yeah,
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I think he turned twenty.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
They understand. Yeah, no, and they're like very much, so.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Just not again again.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I know.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I don't know like my mother did, I don't know
like my grandfather did, but I know what this thing
tastes like, smell like, looks like okay, sounds like where
you don't have that experience okay at all. And then
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somebody who's twenty years younger than you, okay, definitely don't
have it at all, okay, And and they don't want
to be told that this this is what it looks like,
taste like, smells like, feels like it sounds like.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
They want to forget about it. They want to ignore it,
they want to forget about it. They want to act
like it never happened. We're in a totally different place
today and we're.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Not and we're not. Okay, that's that's even if we are,
they're trying to move it back to when all right,
and I don't want you to have to know what
it smells like, taste like, feels like, sounds like. I
don't want you to have to go through that. But
if that's what's necessary, that may be what's necessary for
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them to understand where we are. Mm hmm all right. So,
but then it comes out to beef. In some instances,
what we call a cell a place of privilege among
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young black people or young people of aff origin uh
and and people who of African origins who think they
are included, right, could be a form of self help
self hate uh and whether they try to remove themselves
(21:19):
from the blackness of being black all right and be
and be and be equated with and validated. Okay, how
close can I be to the other ethnicity all right?
Rather than how can I claim, reclaim claim or reclaim
(21:43):
my own authenticity all right and my own reality and
really define myself okay, rather than waiting for them to say, oh,
oh you belong good boy, Yeah you're not like the others.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Yeah, I feel like, that's what a lot of people
of African descent in this country strive for to hear
you're not like the others, to hear you're better than
those others.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I've been told, oh years old, that was that was
very you're very smart. Okay, wells, who so what does that?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Because you really don't realize how offensive that is with
your passive blind racism. You don't understand how you are
currently in real time insulting me. So imagine if the
people that are insulting me don't even realize they are
insulting me, how can a young person of African descent
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in this country and that's nineteen years old, realize that
they are being prejudiced against, They are being in a
we put in a position where they are and salted
and they don't even realize.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
They say, thank you, thank you so much. Oh my god,
I've been waiting to hear this.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Well the right the white validation, if you will, okay,
and you know, then we want to go on to
and we don't understand that this self hate. Uh and
Borol shares with us that this is the foundation for disunity. Okay,
(23:33):
because if I accept the fact that I'm different. Oh
you know, you know you're different from the others. Okay,
Oh you're you're so intelligent, yo, you're you know, Oh
you you articulate so well what you know what I
just yeah? Right, okay.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
And that person you're not supposed to though, Yes, you're
shocking to them to encounter someone of your stature, of
your addiction, of just your everything, and to walk in
with all oozing, all that black riz, all this rich blackness,
all this soul and still be able to articulate yourself
(24:17):
and still be able to move in a room and
the way you're trusted, the way you talk, the way
you everything.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Well, also to them to throw that off, I feel,
is to move away from the old plantation founder plantation
foundation that has been laying with us, okay, and and
move us away from being plantation protectors.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Plantation protectors, y'are so busy trying to protect the protest.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Uncle rugas was Uncle Rua, Yes, okay, plantation protectors. And
so I think that foundation was laid doing doing during
early slavery days. But then after the UH Emancipation Proclamation
(25:14):
and reconstruction and new reconstruction UH to some degree, the
Kraal gate has been opened, all right, and so we
can't really at this point close them again. But we
(25:39):
can take and put bridles on the horses and control them, okay,
through the educational process where we we're in control of
the curriculum and we teach it in such a way
where it perpetuates the dominant culture as the superior culture. Uh,
(26:00):
and anything less than the ones who are in control, right,
and and so then we're the superior. We're we're superior.
W You're only superior because you're in control.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
There is nothing else about you besides that.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And you're keeping control because you're more violent. I if
if I'm making sense, it's like.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
A bully maintaining control over everyone.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yes. Uh. If you compare black man and black woman
of America to other organized nations around the globe, we
find that no other people was such a particular peculiar
type of psychology or psychological basis for socializing with one
(26:48):
another within the mental parameters of the so called freed slave.
Lies m your oppressor's idea of ecrippling self sabotaged behavior.
Just so if we don't measure up, all right, it's
(27:08):
you you almost self sabotage.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I forget it. I can't even you.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
You give up on yourself before you even try, before
you even put your your anything out there, before you
even educate yourself on how to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You say, I can't do that, that's not possible.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And not only that, but we try to keep one
another from crowd the crab mentality for climbing out of
you know.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Yes, instead of pushing each other up and out and
pulling each other up.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But my question becomes in that is that a false narrative?
Is it is the crab? Is the crab below reaching
up to pull the other one down, but reaching up
to grab holes so they both can be pulled out?
Is it? I don't know, cause okay, but we have
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we have been taught that's what it is, and so
we blindly accept again somebody else's definition of what's taking place.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
See now I feel like I have to go boys
some crabs and see for myself.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Okay, all right, well.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Okay, let them just with no lid?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Is the glass half full of if it's half empty?
All right? Could it not be both?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
It?
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Is? It is? Okay? Okay? Yes, it could be that. Oh,
I see you're up there and you're on your way out,
let me grab hole, so as you on your way out,
I can and then maybe the next person can grab you, know,
so maybe just only you getting out, okay, because if
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that one crab gets out, is he gonna reach back
and get another crab and pull him up.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I'm very much so like a put me on person.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I'm very much so like I'm gonna put you on,
like I'm gonna tell you about it. And if we
got that mentality with each other a lot more in
a lot of different realms.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
We'll be pushed to the moon.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And then sometimes is it is it that we don't
I've had uh uh something stuck in my tooth for
three years okay, and could have been a source of
irritation f t for me m for three years the
dinist couldn't get it out, alright, Okay, today it came out.
(29:39):
Was it time you just had to wait for time? Okay, alright?
Or was it I finally did the right thing to
get it out and it was really a piece of
plant or silicon or something like that was stuck okay.
Uh And and my tooth in between or in between
my teeth alright, So are we using one of the
(30:03):
right methods, okay, or or is it time I I
I think I think it's more that we're not using
the right methods mm hm uh and and to throw
away I'm I I and I I I don't really
(30:26):
like doing this, But I look at my I went
to HBCU, and I look at the students that those
of us who went to HBCU's over against those who
went to other institutions. And there's a difference in the
(30:47):
functionality mm uh and the uh the confidence mm like
socially you mean no, just just you know, there's just
a k the confidence in my ability to perform.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You feel like our higher phrase. Well, you see, you grads.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Are better better able to have more confidence in being
able to function.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Why do you think is.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
In part? I don't. I don't think it's it's the answer,
but it may be one of many answers. Is that
one of the institutions to hbc used you have to
matriculate in a different kind of way to to graduate
all right, and and that that that that that that
(31:44):
working the system to get out of it all right
is different than working the system of uh, say, the
schools that operated by the dominant culture. I think that
the dominant culture is almost set that if you do
the academic work, alright, don't y yeah yeah yeah yeah,
(32:04):
okay yeah, But in the HBCUs there's some other challenges
that have to be navigated. The money may not always
be there, okay, uh, like it is maybe at Ohio
State versus a Wilberforce or Central State. Okay, the uh
(32:31):
the amount of the if you have a certain gpa, uh,
you can get into Ohio State, alright, just on your GPA,
mm say safe a student has a full uh uh.
Just hypothetically, a student who graduates from high school with
a straight age alright, automatically goes to can go to
(32:55):
a state school alright, and his tuition, uh, room and
board is paid for. All he has to do is
buy his books and his personal money. That does not
apply to Wilberforce or Centralcy necessarily. Okay. And so now
(33:17):
you may not be able to get in, like you're
graduating this coming June. You may may not be able
to get in in August. You may have to go
to Bowling Green alright, but you will eventually in uh
uh Ohio State at Mansfield, you know something like that,
the Mansfield location. But you're in the the state, that
(33:37):
state system. If if I'm making m making myself clear there,
so that's it, it's it. That's kind of uh uh
I I I feel the kind of uh uh I
I listen to some people who have they have all that,
(33:58):
they have all the uh, all the colde languages, all
the terms, all the trends mm, but they can't they
don't know how to matriculate. M use 'em to. They're sitting,
they're they're sitting demonstrating that they know the terms, they
(34:19):
know the trends, they know. Okay, it's like having a
uh a a I I give you it a example.
It's having a toolbox of all the modern tools, alright,
and you can sit and tell what's in your toolbox
cause you don't know how to use one of 'em.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Mm.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Okay that I if I that that's a oversimplification, Yeah,
but that's that's kind of what I I I feel
is uh happens. And then when you uh, when you
look at look at the you look at oh man,
(35:05):
uh the people the people who black, white, green, and purple.
For instance, seven hundred and fifty thousand people have been furloughed.
Uh uh in the federal government from this uh shutdown?
How do you really they are seven hundred and fifty
(35:25):
thousand people who make the government, make the government work.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
They said they'll get more.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Huh, they'll get more. Okay, they gonna get more. They
gonna pay those others that they are.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
No, they're not that, they're not less. No, they're not.
See that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
So they're not gonna be paid at all once the
shut is over.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
And from what I'm hearing, these seven hundred and fifty
thousand furloughs are permanent, permanent layoffs. They feel the government
it's it's top heavy.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
So they're not even interested in replacing. No, these people.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
No, you remember your boy said he was gonna drain
the swamp. I I.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Okay, alright right by are you f alright?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Alright, alright, alright. So if if I'm gonna control, okay,
the more the the fewer people I have in place
to get the job done. Okay, One, the more I
can control, and two, the more money I saved to
give back to No, how are.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Things going to efficiently and effectively be ran?
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Well, where you have ten people doing now, one person
is gonna have to be done. Do it mm hm mkay.
And what he's saying is they th they believe that
one person can do what ten people have been doing.
Mm and but also but well and also now you
(37:07):
also have the possibility of digital employees. Yes, of course,
so bots can. Will we be doing some of the replacements?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Of course? Of course. All you gotta do is programming.
Once have somebody the program.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
One person, a man. The robots. The robots ain't going.
Don't need vacation. Uh, they don't need the weekends and
holidays off. Okay. Oh see, I mean that is when
we look at this. So then then then if we're
already at the bottom of the wrong okay, where does
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that leave us as other people get displaced themselves.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It leaves us worrying about ourselves.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
No, it doesn't leave us. It leaves us becoming forgetting
us other foolishness. And you're find I said.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
It leaves us to focus on our yes okay, and
focus on our people, our community that should look like
where it should be, all of those things. That's what
we need to focus on it and get on one
the core for it. I understand people have plans out here.
I understand that people have objectives, and they want to
(38:28):
make sure that their own objectives are.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
To go for They want to go to the funders
who are displacing them. And people, listen, you can't ride
to freedom on Pharaoh's chariot, all right. You know, you
can't eat the oppressives food and think you're gonna be
free from him. Hello, can't sit it this table and
(38:56):
be free also, And so we have to have we
have to be well some we have to develop our
own okay, resources and put them in place. Right, that's
that's again and now again. No, uh, maybe maybe, and
(39:17):
that's some people who will take better task on this.
Maybe separate and equal really works better for us.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Maybe, right, I'm going to try it again, right.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
I know, I know I'm better prepared to balance my
checkbook than my grandson. M M. I know I'm better.
He he's better. He's in a better position to make
more money than I am. All right, but I'm in
(39:53):
a better position to balance my checkbook than he is.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
If you can't manage, what you're bringing is coming right
back out, so it doesn't matter, it doesn't It is
coming right back out.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
So these are the kinds of things that we Okay,
I'm better able. Even my son okay, okay, who does
not have property, has four cars but doesn't have his
own house. HM. And he has four cars that each
(40:26):
year those four cars go down in value. Right, Well,
if he had his own house, it's going up in value.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yes, I know, I definitely And transparency, transparency, transparency or.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
W Look, I am was not the most financially disciplined person.
I just wasn't Like a lot of African descented folks,
we are.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Not naturally taught that.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
We don't get sit down and talk about portfolios like
other ethnicities.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
So what I did.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
I knew my dad was better with money.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
I let him hold my money until I was comfortable
with myself and I had enough self discipline to be
able to hold my own money. And then I opened
numerous different types of accounts for this and that and
so on and so forth. But that comes with educating
yourself on financial literacy. It's just you just have to
if you haven't been taught these things, you have to
take those extra strides.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
So I'm just imploring you.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
All again to plooring to yourself whatever way that may
look like for you at this present time. However comfort
level you are at at this present time. You got
to start somewhere, just do it.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
But the institution, the peculiar institution of slavery, all right
and the after effects all right, First us to be
financially literate, h yes, because we could not put our
moneyes into black banks. So how did we become during
(42:07):
that period of time economically one solvent two in position
to buy land?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
I mean you say you mean white banks, right, we.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Can up any white banks, yes, well, at and during
the at the at the end of at during the reconstruction,
there were no black banks right even up until the
do through the depression, alright, y you you talking about
uh the sixty five to uh the twenties at sixty
(42:38):
years later, alright, we're financially able to save Cadillac Rum,
alright because white folks had their money in the white system, alright,
and the white system collapsed and they were killing themselves
(42:58):
and we were sitting fat still eating collar greens, cold bread.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Do you think the system doing this again?
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I see it in part, yes, all right, because.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
People have a nest egg of cash and survivor kick.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I think if you take it out of the out
of the black white banks.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Put in black banks, credit unions, floor boat.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
House.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
You have to diversify the same weeks for sure, because
you never know what's gonna happen. You just don't and
you know, Lord forbid, we don't.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Again, we're not trying to incite any anxiety is into anyone,
but this is a season of preparation.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Mm hmm. Well what about gold and gyms? Yes, gold,
silver and gems, gymstones, gyms.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Absolutely. I love me a beautiful pearl, but yes.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
So there are things happening globally alright that we're not paid.
We we we're looking at Lily for turn to Gucci alright,
rather than looking at what's happening glob globally.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
A lot of people don't even know. We're in a
shutdown right now.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
You you you absolutely right about that.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Are you gonna shut down y'all cause you didn't know?
Speaker 2 (44:28):
And and and and now there's a there's a chance
that you may have a mutiny in in the military
because law enforcement and military people right now are going unpaid.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
How long do you think they, as in the military
will go without.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I don't know, I I you know, I don't know, mm,
I I don't know.
Speaker 3 (44:52):
I know when I was in the army and these
things would occur. They normally didn't last longer than two weeks.
These things happen, shutdowns happened.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
The last one happened was thirty five days right.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Again under the Trump administration early twenty twenty. No late
twenty twenty, excuse me, but they happened before in like
twenty ten, twenty twelve, things of that years, those years
back then, and they didn't last longer in two weeks.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
I was a soldier and I still went to.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Work and everything, like everything was everything because you get
to a certain point when you're in the service where
you are, you know, just to take the orders.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
That's your job to take orders, whether you're getting paid
or not.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Had that time because it got to the point, you know,
two weeks is a little scary.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
You already you're missing that's a full you know, pacem y. Yeah,
it's a full pay cycle.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
So it was.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Discussions in the bay of Okay, if this continues, what
will happen? And bay is pretty much like a garage
warpace for work, depending on their jobs and what do
they do. I was a mechanic, so I worked in
the mechanic's bay. I was a mechanic for weapons anything
from a N nine to a triple seven houser.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Mainly Maroons use those those big houser So you.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Know, going back, I one of the things I think
we have to look at again is a crabby of
barrel mentality. For when there are are those of us
who strive to do something or be something other than
a servant of the a uh oppressors system, we find
ourselves being hated by people are oh of our uh,
(46:38):
of our kin and kind? Ok M. And then who
sh who show us no love? Where does the w
First we have to find where does this kind of
thinking come from?
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Mm?
Speaker 2 (46:58):
This self hatred? Is it? Is it a n a
chemically fixated part of black men and women? What? H
What can we if it's chemically induced because of s
A circumstances, an environment cause a certain chemical reaction, how
do we take and neutralize it? How do we take
(47:23):
in how do we investigate genetically psychologically the afro centric
social sciences m HM, so that we can take and
(47:48):
do some social engineering if you will, do you.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Think I mean MM social engineering?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Okay, i'm'a asking bas based from a black perspective, Okay.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
Is that pretty much like how korans and yes, I
figure in.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
The rights of passage quansa yes.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Right, implementing those rituals and those.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Just but it didn't take hold in the masses. Yes, okay,
that's how do we get it to take hold in
the masses? Okay, so that we can so that it
can become culturalized.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
And like a cultural standard. Yes, that's the thing. Making
it a cultural standard.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Becomes a core value, core value value. Yes, yes, So.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Why that triggered the quants of thought because that's basically
how it was. Introducing those afrocentric sociolo ideas is so
so important to retrain our brains.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
And also it negates it's so it's it's so important
to understand Greek Leonard organizations. They're not Greek organizations. They're
Greek Leonard organizations that are steeped in black culture, black
and black history. Even the Masons, all right, and the Masons,
(49:26):
although they have taken and incorporated the Scottish Rites or
York rights masonry, masonry is African. Hello, yes, but they're
people who are seeing all right, all right, and as
(49:47):
part of the self hate because they're striving the black
the Greek Leonard organizations, the Masons, the Shriners, because who
are striving at a different level than everybody else. You
have you try to take and and and paint it
as something European, and it is not. It's not.
Speaker 1 (50:08):
It's not. And if the Euros want to do that
for themselves and they're organizing, they.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Take, they take it, and they're utilizing our systems again
for their benefit.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Could a private black chapter sue a white chapter.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
No.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
The alphabet is the alphabet, you know, How can I
sue you for being a and and and and the
Greek alphabet is.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
A and O intellectual property.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
No, it's it's it's it's it's the it's the alphabet
of everybody.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
But what it represents to you.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
But now if you take it, try to use it,
if you try to use the same letters that I
use in conjunction with you, okay, okay, all right, Oh
make a sigh five. Okay, Now that becomes a different thing.
Now you can say omega five, okay, but you can't
use it as omega PSI five. Okay.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
When it comes to just real quick, on our way out,
when it comes to black Greek organizations, was there a
reason they chose to stay Greek and not induce comm
gods or Egyptian gods.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Or I think because again because in this country, basically
it's where the Greek organizations began. Okay, Greek lettered organizations
began then and then start in Europe. Okay, So it
was in this country that you got Greek. And so
(51:49):
what happened is that we could not get into the
white Greek lettered organizations.
Speaker 5 (51:55):
So we started all we don't leave, y'all. And now
they're fighting to get into so okay, okay, okay, all right,
so that's okay. Cornell University, all right, was where they
kind of started.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Uh. You had the Boulets, which was the first black
Greek lettered organization, okay uh. And they became they they
were so exclusive that this is just a brief I'm
not going into the deep deep stuff, right, just s superficially. Uh.
(52:31):
You had to be a doctor's or a lawyer's son
to become a bulet.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
And so they had girlfriends, and the girlfriends all the
guys in the Bulets kind of quit their girlfriends and
the girlfriends got new boyfriends and convinced them to start
another organization called Alpha Phi Alpha and then they created
uh Aka Alpha Kappa.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
Alphakay, real quick, do you agree that with the statement?
Because this statement has been thrown around a lot for
some reason in my atmosphere recently. Where as America is
the new room, would you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (53:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Rum really didn't rule anything?
Speaker 3 (53:27):
And what I hear, I think maybe if they said
the new Greece or Greeks, I still can't.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
I can't jig with that statement.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Basically, I think when America started out kind of being
and got away from all, right, was being the new
the the the the new Israel.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
Get away from it?
Speaker 2 (53:56):
And Jonathan Khan uh Demonstrations said in his book uh
the Harbinger and the Mystery of the Shamita. Mm you
remember by whom Jonathan Kahn? Oh, thank you k K
A K A h A N. I think it is
(54:21):
Mystery of the Shamita s h E M I T
A H. I think it is okay, okay, the Mystery
of Shamita and the Horbar read the Harbinger first, okay,
and then the Mystery of the Shamita.
Speaker 1 (54:37):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
I will do that and so people get also. I
I'd love for you to get uh the Color of
Law by Rothstein R O T H S T E
I N and get uh breaking the Curse of Willie Lynch.
The wil Lynch papers or letters are not authentic, but
(55:05):
the system that it illustrates is real. The methods that
they use to colonize, terrorize, domesticate, and condition the slaves
in this country. That system did exist, does exist and
(55:27):
is existing, and so we need to understand that. Okay,
all right, listen, you got any final words before we
get out of here.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
I just say they provise as on gifts. Just make
sure to open your eyes and look around.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
And this is a ride by along with the black
Unicorn saying I will drink from my part of the
river and no one shall keep me from it. You
have been listening to black thought to spark everything mischange,
so inform, to inspire and to impact all. Wolvu ninety
five point night in friend. We will see you next time.
(56:02):
Until then, shalom haabab.
Speaker 1 (56:08):
This is w O v U Studios h
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