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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, let's unpack this. Welcome to the deep Dive. We're
all about turning complex info into well, something clear and useful,
making sense of it all exactly. And today we're embarking
on a really fascinating journey. We're diving deep into a
book called Psychic EmPATH Abilities.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's a practical guide by Ellen J. Cure aimed at
highly sensitive people, helping them awaken hidden psychic powers and
live an empowered life.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
That's the subtitle, right, And this deep dive is really
for you. Maybe you're navigating empathy yourself, or you're just
curious about inner strengths. Maybe the unseen world just intrigues you. Yeah,
Our mission here is to walk you through this guide
kind of like a story. We want to reveal the
honestly surprising facts and practical insights Ellen Jke your offers
specifically for highly sensitive folks.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We'll get into what being a highly sensitive EmPATH or
HSE truly means.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
What psychic abilities actually are, if they're real.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
A big question for many definitely.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
And crucially how you might discover and even develop them.
It's all about empowering you to understand your unique sensitivities
and live a more.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Aware, connected life through that understanding.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So what's the background on the author, Ellen J. Cure?
What makes her perspective unique here?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, what's really illuminating is that she's not just writing
about m paths. She is one, and she's a psychologist.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Oh interesting, so personal and professional exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
She brings over twenty years of experience, both from her
field and her own life. She wrote this specifically to
help sensitive people appreciate themselves, you know, avoid feeling inadequate, which.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Can happen easily I imagine.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
For sure, and also to navigate relationships better. So it's
not just theory, it's very much a practical guide grounded
in that blend of insight and lived experience.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Okay, so let's start the story. The guide introduces us
to this special kind of person, the highly sensitive mpath
the HSE right, and.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
You might even see some of these traits in yourself
as we talk about them.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
So how who are they described? What's the experience like?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Well, hsees are cotrade is being highly attuned, almost like
psychic sponges, to the energies and emotions swirling around them.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Sponges, Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
They often feel crowded by other people's feelings, or sometimes
the opposite. Quite isolated. They're just acutely aware of their environment,
things others might.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Miss, and it says they can unintentionally project their own
feelings too.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yes, that's part of it. The book gives some powerful
examples like mpath sensing danger and helping save others, or
just you know, perceiving things that others can't see or understand.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
It sounds incredible but also potentially overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Absolutely, it can be a challenge. The book doesn't shy
away from the negative side effects like what things like
mood swings, anxiety, depression, sometimes even eating disorders can be linked.
It often leads to feeling different, misunderstood.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah, being labeled moody or weird.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Or even crazy, the book notes, is incredibly isolating.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
But there's another side to it, right, strength, definitely.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And this is key to Cure's perspective. She argues that
this perceived vulnerability, this intense sensitivity, is actually the foundation
of their greatest strengths once it's understood.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So what are some of these hidden gifts?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well, things like sensing subtle changes in weather or even
the earth, feeling the specific energy of a place like
a house, Oh wow, discerning truthfulness in people almost instinctively
and often a really powerful creative drive writing music, art.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So it's this deep intuitive understanding exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Understanding others feelings and thoughts, sometimes without a word being spoken.
The book says this puts them in a position of
power in.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
A way that's a huge reframing from burden to power.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
There really is. It shifts the focus from just experiencing
sensitivity to actively working with it. Understanding the HSE sets
the stage for exploring what curacies as inherent psychic abilities, right.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Moving beyond on sensitivity as just a trait to seeing
it as a potential pathway exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
It suggests this baseline sensitivity can be cultivated. It's not
a flaw, it's a foundation.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Okay. So that leads us to the big question you
mentioned earlier. Are these psychic abilities actually real?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
According to this book, the answer is a clear yes,
and it dives into what that really means.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
How does it define them?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It acknowledges different cultural views, ancient beliefs in inherent powers,
modern ideas of developed skills. It talks about how these
abilities historically were used for all sorts.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Of things by fortune telling.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Prediction, yes, but also healing, guidance, warnings, even entertainment. But
the core idea the book pushes is that these might
not be rare mystical gifts, but.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
More like inherent human capacities.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Potentially yes, rooted in our biology, maybe even hereditary. It's
a different way of looking at our potential.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Does the book offer any scientific backing for this? That's
often the sticking point.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It does touch on That brings up extrasensory perception. ESP
is a kind of umbrella.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Term covering things like telepathy, clairvoyance, right, psychokinesis, astro projection,
and it gives examples like It points to telepathy in animals, dogs, cats, dolphins,
suggesting it's real phenomenon, not just human fantasy.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Okay, animal communications fascinating. What about human studies?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It mentions research from universities Wisconsin, Iowa, Johns, Hopkins, Stanford,
or Naton.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
What did they supposedly find?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Well, some studies apparently linked brain chemistry, like a deficiency
in a neurotransmitter called gabba, which calms the brain right exactly.
A deficiency there might make psychic abilities less likely, and
other studies use brain scans reportedly showing activity in specific
regions when people claim to see future.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Events, So suggesting a physical basis that these abilities could
potentially be developed.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yes, the implication the book draws. It uses these points
to argue that these abilities aren't purely supernatural.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
But maybe part of our natural makeup.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yes, part of our DNA and ability to cannct with
the physical world around us. It even posits this idea
of an invisible body made up of energy that connects
all life on Earth.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That's a big concept, and energy body connecting everything it is, and.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It helps make the idea of psychic development feel more accessible,
more grounded in inherent potential rather than something totally out there.
It normalizes it.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Okay, So if these abilities are potentially inherent, how do
they actually show up? What forms do they take?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
The book describes them almost like different senses for the
unseen world. The Claires are a big part of this.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh. Yes, the Claires like clairvoyance.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Right, clear seeing, getting insights, maybe seeing auras or glimpses
of future. Then there's clear audience, clear hearing, hearing things
others don't, or sensing vibrations, maybe perceiving unseen images or sounds. Internally,
there's also psychometry that's.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Touching objects right to get impressions.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yes, reliving history or feeling emotions connected to the object,
and telepathy direct mind to mind communication.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Even with animals.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
As mentioned before, the book suggests so. It also covers
mediumship communicating with spirits or guides, precognition sensing the future
or sometimes viewing the past.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And psychokinesis moving things with your mind.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
That's the classic one. Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
It also mentions more specific things like animal communication again,
sensing strangers' emotions which is core empathy, really knowing what
someone will.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Say, using tools like tarot cards, right.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Symbolic systems as expressions of these underlying abilities. The main
point is that you might resonate with one or maybe several,
or perhaps they're latent, just waiting.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
So the book really shifts from just defining these things
to saying, hey, this could be part.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Of you exactly. It moves away from them being rare
gifts for a chosen few towards being accessible potential within us,
normalizing it.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Okay, So, if they're real, potentially inherent, how do we
actually unlock them? How do we develop these abilities?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The book offers a practical roadmap for that personal development.
It acknowledges some people seem born with stronger gifts.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
But it's not exclusive. Adults can develop them too.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Absolutely. The key requirement Cure really emphasizes this is having
a firm belief in your own abilities. Self trust is foundational.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Belief as the starting point. What about the benefits? Why
develop them?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
The book lists quite a few advantages for you, Practical
ones like getting advanced warnings maybe about natural disasters or
severe weather, kind of protective instinct.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Okay, that makes sense. What else?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Improved health is mentioned, protection from illness or just knowing
when something's off and you need medical attention. That intuitive sense.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Like a deeper body awareness.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Yes, and leading to greater mindfulness overall, being more present, aware,
better able to manage emotions, make clearer decisions, living more
in the moment, which.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Leads to peace of mind, I guess.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Definitely, reducing worry, fostering relaxation. And interestingly, the book even
notes a holistic connection. Some find developing this awareness subtle
supports overall well being, potentially even physical goals like weight
management through that deeper mind body link.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
So it's not just about seeing the future, It's about
a more integrated way of living.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
That seems to be the core idea. It's holistic improvement. Yeah,
and it takes practice.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Of course, right, So what are the practical steps the
daily habits?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
The book suggests some foundational things. Waking up early apparently
good for creative thinking and tapping the subconscious Okay, Meditation, Yes,
meditation with eyes closed or open. Practices like yoga and
taichi are recommended too for centering balance. Tuning into your
body makes sense.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Anything else for daily intuition building.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Active listening is highlighted. Really tuning into others' feelings, which
taps into your intuition, and observing things without.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Judgment, just letting things be. How does that help?
Speaker 2 (09:48):
It strengthens intuition by quieting the analytical mind, allowing that
inner sense to surface more easily.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Okay, those are general habits. What about techniques specifically for
psychic development?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It gets more targeted there, like awakening your third.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Eye, the pineal gland, right.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yes, visualizing that gland opening during meditation, maybe imagining white light.
This is said to enhance psychic awareness significantly and Kundalini
energy that's described as a gradual spiritual awakening process using
meditation and focused practices. To release this powerful energy, often
visualized as coiled at the spine moving upwards guns intense.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
What about telepathy?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Steps for that include deep relaxation, focusing on breath and senses,
noticing subtle shifts and perception, and journaling experiences.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And clairvoyance the clear seeing.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
For that, it suggests dream and vision training, things like
relaxing before sleep, setting alarms to wake you during rem
immediately recording any images or feelings, and then reviewing for patterns.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
So active dream work.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yes, plus other tips like mindful observation in daily life,
trying psychometry with objects, and acknowledging any premonitions or feelings
of deja vus you might have. Don't just dismiss them.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It seems like there are many paths, and.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
The author stresses that she explicitly says whatever works best
for you will be the best fit for your unique situation.
It's personal, not a rigid formula, not at all.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's about self discovery, being open to exploring, and she
connects it back to a bigger picture too. Developing these
skills isn't just personal gain, how so, it can lead
to a happier, safer, and more successful future for everyone
because it enables us to potentially help others, maybe even
prevent negative events. There's a collective benefit.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So as you start opening up to these abilities, the
journey might involve connecting with unseen helpers spirit guides. That's
a significant part of the book. Yes, it suggests you're
not alone on this path, that you might find powerful
allies in spirit guides and also in the wisdom of
your own dreams.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
How does one get in touch with these guides.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
It's about letting go of ego, the book says, focusing inward,
listening actively, and just being open to feeling their presence.
They offer validation, advice, guidance.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Are there different types of guides?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Oh? Yes, the book describes a whole team you might
connect with. There are high ranking archangels like Michael or Rafael,
helper angels offering protection.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Cardian angels too, Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Often described as a protective wise presence, almost like a
daddy figure, giving confidence. Departed loved ones can act as
guides too, Spirit.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Animals connecting with animal energys.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Right ascended masters, highly evolved souls. Carl Jung is mentioned
as an example, and even fascinatingly.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Plants plants as spirit guides.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yes, described as wise advisors, protectors, healers. The book gives
examples acorn for immortality, Allo for love and healing, apple
for knowledge, cherry for peace. They each has symbolic meanings
and energies.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
How did these guides communicate? Is it always voices?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Not necessarily? The book says they have unique styles, often
through dreams, meditation, or maybe symbols you notice in your environment.
It also mentions they might appear in a physical form.
It looks magnificent, radiant.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So how can you encourage communication? Any tips?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Be present first and foremost, ask clear questions. Using a
journal helps track answers and patterns. Playing music can shift
your energy. Visualizing helps visualizing questions and potential answers. Yes,
having firm belief, being patient It doesn't always happen instantly,
and importantly.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Look for signs, signs like what.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Maybe noticing specific birds repeatedly, flickering lights, things like that
which feel like subtle confirmation.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And building the relationship.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
It involves positive thoughts, getting to know their personalities. Some
might be wise, others playful, others practical. Understanding their communication style,
which is usually calm and rational.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
The book mentions something about surrendering items. What's that about?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Ah, Yes, that's an interesting practice. The idea is, you
take a personal item, something you've imbued with your energy,
and you consciously surrender it. Why to symbolically release that
part of your energy attached to the item? Catchment is
thought to allow your own spirit to gain power and
open the channels for communication with guides more easily letting
go to connect exactly, though the book does acknowledge it
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can be emotionally hard to let go of treasured things.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Okay, let's shifting gear slightly. What about dreams? How do
they fit into this intuitive learning?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Dreams are presented as a natural form of intuitive learning,
a really deep source of self understanding.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Why do we dream? According to the book, any theories mentioned.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It touches on a few not just memory consolidation, but
maybe cribbing, remsleep itself, or clearing out excess nervous energy.
It also mentions different types lucid dreams, nightmares, night terrors,
hyper vivid dreams.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Does it suggest dreams mean something specific like do they
have a purpose?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It explores Freudian ideas, thoughts and desires projected symbolically. Also
the idea that dreams help clear short term memory, but
the emphasis is really on symbolic analysis looking for the
message within.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Can dreams reveal things about our inner state?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yes, or even hint at future potentials sometimes called third
eye dreams, And there are health benefits too. Research shows
rem sleep when we dream most vividly, affects brain activity,
and remembering dreams correlates with more REM.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So remembering dreams is good.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
It suggest active processing is happening. The book that offers
some common dream themes and potential meanings, which.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Are quite evocative, like what give us a few examples.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Well, nightmares might reflect deep insecurities, having an out of
body experience, and a dream could signify spiritual awakening. Reliving
past events might be about learning lessons from them. Supernatural
encounters could point towards spiritual communication. Dreams about death aren't
necessarily literal. They might symbolize courage or transformation. Flying often
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represents freedom, possession. Dreams could relate to feeling controlled reincarnation.
Themes might surface. It's all about the symbolism.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
It sounds like dreams are rich field for self discovery.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Within this framework, absolutely the interplay between actively seeking guidance
from spirits and passively receiving messages through dreams creates a
really holistic way to understand your inner world.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It encourages you to see these experiences not as random noise.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
But as purposeful communications, messages from different parts of your
consciousness or maybe even the universe guiding you.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
So bringing it all together, we've journeyed through understanding the
sensitive EmPATH, the reality of psychic abilities, how to cultivate them,
connecting with guides, understanding dreams. What's the ultimate takeaway for
you the listener?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well, Ellen j. Kure's core goal, as she states, it
is really about helping sensitive people live fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Lives, appreciating themselves, avoiding inadequacy.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Exactly, and a key practical application, she mentions, which is
really relevant, is using this heightened awareness to steer clear
of harmful relationships.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Like narcissistic ones, for instance, using empathy defensively.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Precisely, using that sensitivity not just to feel, but to
discern and protect your own energy and well being.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
That's real empowerment, and the overall message about development.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
It's that anyone can develop these abilities. It takes learning,
consistent practice, and that foundational self belief. It's an ongoing journey.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
It really leaves you with a sense of agency, doesn't it?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
It absolutely does. You're encouraged to embrace your sensitivities, work
on your intuition, actively connect deeper with yourself in the world.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
The path takes time, patients.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
But the tools are within reach. The potential for a
more aware, guided and empowered life is there, and the
book suggests this isn't just for personal benefit, but contributes
to a better future for everyone.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
So what does this all mean? This deep dive into
psychic EmPATH abilities really maps out compelling story of self discovery.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
From recognizing your empathic nature to developing psychic senses to
connecting with guidance.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It's a profound journey, Ellen Jquer outlines, which leads us
to a final thought for you to consider.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
If, as the book suges u yests, there's an invisible
energetic body connecting us to all.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Life on earth, what subtle messages might you be missing
right now from the world around you, simply because you
haven't yet learned how to truly listen?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Something to ponder.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Thank you for joining us on this deep dive. We
hope it sparked some new insights and
Speaker 2 (18:17):
It maybe encourages you to explore the incredible abilities you
might possess,