November 29, 2025 • 18 mins
Details the alleged Project Serpo, a top-secret interstellar exchange program managed by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) that sent twelve U.S. military personnel to the planet Serpo in 1965 after the Roswell incident. The narrative relies heavily on revelations made by an anonymous source, allegedly a former DIA official and editor of the secret "Red Book," who provided information to a website and Victor Martinez. The sources extensively explore pre-Roswell history, claiming that the U.S. military was already aware of extraterrestrial presence and German development of antigravity technology, particularly from a Nazi colony in Antarctica and connections to alien groups like the Reptilians. Furthermore, the text documents subsequent UFO crashes (Roswell, Plains of St. Augustin, and Kingman) and the years of communication and reverse-engineering efforts with the Ebens (Extraterrestrial Biological Entities) that preceded the exchange mission, including details from a briefing to President Reagan. Finally, the text presents entries from the Team Commander’s diary describing the journey and life on the planet Serpo, revealing the Ebens' advanced technology—like the Yellow Book and cloning—and their highly structured, sometimes disturbing, civilization.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, let's jump right in. Welcome to the deep dive.
This is where we take well, frankly unbelievable stuff, classified docs,
leaked intel, whispers from history, and piece together the story
you probably haven't heard. That's right, And today our mission
is quite something. We're diving deep into the alleged true
(00:21):
story behind the book Secret Journey to Planet Serpo. We're
turning what's claimed to be a detailed government report into
well a galactic adventure story for you, and it.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Really centers on this specific operation, Project Cerpo. The official
code name was Project Crystal Night. And this wasn't some
small thing. The sources were looking at alleges a very serious,
highly classified interstellar exchange program run by the Defense Intelligence Agency,
the DIA.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, interstellar exchange exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The core clan is pretty staggering. In nineteen sixty five,
twelve US military personnel traveled thirty eight light years away
to a planet called Sirpo. The plan was ten years,
but they ended up staying for thirty thirteen years.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Wow. And the information itself, where did that come from?
That's always the key.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Question, isn't it It is? And this is fascinating too.
We apparently only know about this because someone decided to
leak it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Slowly.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It started in two thousand and five, Okay, an anonymous
source claiming to be a retired US government official started
sending these just massive email dumps to a UFO forum,
the UFO thread list. This email emails packed with details
designated top secret code.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Word, and people just believe this anonymous source.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
His credibility got a major boost. Almost immediately, other insiders,
people who supposedly had access, came forward. They confirmed his story,
saying his account matched almost exactly to the word what
they'd read in this huge secret historical document. Apparently it's
known inside as the Red Book.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
The Red Book. So okay, so we have the Mission
Project SERPO and the leak, But the why seems huge here?
Why send twelve people thirty eight light years? What drove
that kind of risk?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
To get that? You have to re way back.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The sources suggest that even before the famous Roswell crash
in forty seven, the US military was already it's aware
that things were more complicated than just earthly affairs. They
knew something was up.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay, so they were already thinking extraterrestrially.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
In a way.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yes, the stage for this story, the Serpo story actually
gets set back in the nineteen thirties and forties in Germany.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Germany, How does that connect.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Through a man named Carl Haushoffer. He was a high
ranking WWI VET a major general. After the war, he
spent time teaching in Japan and got initiated into two
very influential secret societies, which were the ultnationalistic Black Dragon
Society and maybe more importantly, the occult Green Dragon Society.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Cul Okay, now we're getting into some strange territory definitely.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
And this Green Dragon Society allegedly was the link to
the so called Green Men. Green Men, Yeah, supposedly connected
to this underground reptilian empire called Patala or Snake World,
believed to be under Tibet.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Wait. Reptilians under Tibet giving tech to the Nazis sounds
like it.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Sounds wild, I know, but this is what the sources
alleged was the actual origin of Nazi high technology. Wasn't
just brilliant engineering.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
See why would these Patala reptilians help the Nazis strategy?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Apparently these beings who could supposedly see through time or
maybe even travel through it figured that backing German militarism
would help their own goals weigh down the line like
fiftieth century goals.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The fiftieth century. That's hard to wrap your head around
using ww IR for something thousands of years later.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It is, But the immediate result, according to the story,
was technology. Househoffer became a key advisor to Hitler, founded
the Tool and Virill societies.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
The infamous Vrill Society.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Exactly, And this whole occult network basically came a pipeline
advanced anti gravity disc tech. The Honabu and Virile models
flowed from Podola to the SS, managed by General Hans Kamler.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And these weren't just blueprints. They actually built things.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Oh yeah, big things. The Hanebou the second was reportedly
seventy five feet across the Hanevou thread Nod two hundred
and thirty feet. There are even claims one of these
was sent on a joint German Japanese mission to Mars
in nineteen forty six.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
To Mars in nineteen forty six. That's mind blowing if true.
And where were they building and launching these from? It
couldn't have been mainland Germany.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
By the Antarctica. That was the Fortress neuschwabenlnd H.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The legendary Nazi Antarctic base.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Starting in nineteen thirty eight, they established this huge base
in Queen maud Land. It grew into an underground city,
No Berlin. Some sources claim maybe forty thousand people were
there by the war's end.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Forty thousand. How did they get them there?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Himmler used advanced U boats, the type xx on. They
could supposedly make the whole trips submerged. They transported the
disc prototypes. Scientists like Kamler and get this, ten thousand
specifically chosen Ukrainian women, blonde hair, blue eyes to breed
a pure Aryan civilization under the ice. This was supposed
(05:00):
to be the seed of the Fourth Reich.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So this base wasn't just a hideout, It was an
active threat, a massive threat.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
The US knew about the disks, knew they couldn't match
the technology, and feared an invasion launch from.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Antarctica, which explains Operation Highjunts.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Exactly nineteen forty six, Admiral Bird leads this huge naval
force publicly its exploration, secretly find and destroyed No Berlin.
The US military realized WWII wasn't really over, it had
just gone interplanetary.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Okay, so the US is already deeply worried about off
world tech before nineteen forty seven. That changes the context
for Roswell completely.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It does so when the crash happens near Roswell, actually
the second crash that year, there was one near Sikoro. First, right,
it was a shock, sure, but maybe not the total
bolt from the blue we often imagine. And crucially, they
recovered something priceless, a live aliena eb one code named
(05:52):
Noah right later et e two and even correct.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
He was housed at Los Alamos. They identified him as
a machaan, not like a top scientist, but he was
incredibly valuable.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
How so what did he do over.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The next five years? He taught linguists bits of the
Eben language, which was tonal, very complex, and eventually he
managed to repair the communications device from the crashed ship.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He fixed their communicator.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, and before he died in nineteen fifty two, the
environment here was tough on him. He sent six messages home.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
What did they say?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Things like a request for rescue, a suggestion for a meeting,
and crucially a proposal for a formal exchange program.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
An exchange program. Where did that idea come from?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Apparently his US military caretaker suggested it to him, and
the IBBNS replied they agreed to the exchange, but the
meeting date they set was more than ten years in
the future. Ten years.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Why the wait, That's a good question. Maybe travel time,
maybe preparation. But that long gap leads us to another
key event, Kingman, Arizona, nineteen fifty three.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
What happened at Kingman? Another crash?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
No, this was different. An Eben scout ship landed near
Kingman intentionally, it wasn't a crash, and it had four
live evans.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Aboard for this time, and this was pre arranged.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Highly prepared for.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yes, it suggests the Ebens were maybe delivering this craft
as a gift, a prototype to study. The evens were
taken to the same facility at Los Alamos, Aba one
had been in.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So now the US has a working ship and cooperative aliens.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Pretty much, and this interaction was vital for building trust.
The Evans helped the US team figure out some major
problems with the craft they'd recovered earlier, like what there
was this persistent humming sound. They couldn't stop. And the
big one solving the thermal issues for atmospheric reentry. The
evens helped with that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Okay, so that's huge for reverse engineering.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
This cooperation really kicked off the reverse engineering program in
earnest at the Nevada Test Site Area fifty one starting
that year, and they had even scientists helping them for
about nine years. That built the trust needed for the
Big Exchange.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Nine years of working together. Okay, that makes sense. So
trust established, the exchange is back on.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Track, yep, fastward.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
In nineteen sixty two, President Kennedy reportedly issues the directive
for Project Crystal night time to select the team.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The SURPO twelve ten men, two women. What were the criteria.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Extremely strict career military, single, no children, and preferably orphans orphans.
Why to minimize family ties to reduce the chance of
someone back home asking questions or missing them too much.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
These people needed to disappear.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
That's harsh. And then they were sheep dip right. What
exactly did that involve?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It's deep cover terminology. Their existing military and personal records
were scrubbed, sealed, hidden away. They were issued simple three
digit numbers instead of names. Poof they basically ceased to
exist on paper.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Unbelievable. What about training.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Brutal high altitude endurance survival skills, psychops training, a condensed
ranger course. Most of it happened to Camp Piarry, Virginia,
the farm.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The CIA's training facility.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Right and the secrecy was intense. Right before they were
due to leave, the whole team was confined locked in.
Individuals at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Locked up their own team to.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Ensure absolute secrecy, prevent any last minute leaks or second thoughts.
Apparently one volunteer tried to back out at that point,
and what happened. He was told basically, fine, you can quit,
but you'll stay in this cell until the team gets back.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
In ten years.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Seriously, he quickly changed his mind.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
The commitment was total.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Okay, so the team is ready lockdown. Then the Abans
arrived for the diplomatic handover.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
April nineteen sixty four, White Sands Missile Range, the Abens land.
The selected US team members are waiting apparently in a
bus nearby, and the Abns bring this incredible gift, the
Yellow Book.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The Yellow Book describe that again, it wasn't paper.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It was described as a transparent block about two point
five inches thick. You held it, and text and images
would appear on its surface in whatever language you.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Were thinking it It read your mind for language reference.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Apparently so, and the content was staggering. It reportedly contained
two thousand years of Ebon h street related to Earth,
including the bombshell claim that an even had actually taken
the form of Jesus Christ about two thousand years prior,
specifically to nudge humanity towards certain spiritual paths.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Wait hold on. The aliens gave the US government a
device claiming they essentially founded Christianity.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's what the source claims. The Yellow Book contained a
history that completely rewrites human religion and origins.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
How how did they even process that? That's beyond classified,
that's reality shattering.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You have to assume it was compartmentalized at the highest
levels treated its historical data from the Ebon perspective. The
immediate focus was the exchange the tech, not rewriting the Bible.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Right. Okay, so Yellow Book received When did the actual
exchange happen? When did the twelve leave?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
July nineteen sixty five, the location shifted to the Nevada
test site. The Cerpo twelve boarded the even ship and
they weren't traveling light.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
What did they bring? Forty five tons?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You said, forty five tons a year? It was a
wild list. Three specially prepared jeeps, twenty four handguns, generators,
scientific equipment, medical.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Supplies, Janny creature comfort, one.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Thousand gallons of fuel incredibly, and recordings of Mozart and
the Beetles.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Mozart and the Beetles going to Zeta reticulate. Okay, so
they board the ship. The log start. What was the
journey like?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
According to the commander's logs, it was rough, really rough.
He described moving through space tunnels what we'd probably call wormholes.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That's the description.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
This travel, moving through the time domain, as they put it,
made everyone incredibly sick, dizzy, confused. The pilot number one
oh two actually fainted and someone died. Yes, Team number
three oh eight died during the transit phase, a massive
blow right.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
At the start.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Terrible. Did they stay on the same ship the whole way?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Mid journey they transferred to a much larger Ebon mothership,
and this is where they saw some truly mind bending
tech like what remember the forty five tons of gear
The jeeps, fuel everything. The ebbns moved it all from
the smaller ship to the mothership in one big move, effortless.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Non move, forty five tons.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Like it weighed nothing clear demonstration of advanced anti gravity
or mass manipulation.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Just moved.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Okay, So they finally arrive. What was Surpo like?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They land on Surpo, fourth planet, orbiting the stars Zeta
Reticuli two. It's got two sons a day last forty
three Earth hours.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Two sons forty three hour days. What about the environment?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Hustle extremely hot, routinely hitting one hundred and forty degrees fahrenheit,
and high radiation levels much higher than Earth.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Not exactly paradise. Who greeted them?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Ebans?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Loads of them, and they all look pretty much identical
to the team. The only visual difference was that females
sometimes wore shawls.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Did they have a guide soon who could communicate?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yes, thankfully EBA two. She was a female Eban who
had learned English, reportedly almost fluent, maybe from studying ABE
one's interactions or the Yellow Book data. She became their
primary liaison.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
What were the Ovens like culturally? You said they were intelligent,
very average.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
IQ estimated one to sixty five, but rigid, highly structured,
almost lacking in creativity or spontaneity.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Oh so well, the.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Team discovered their daily lives were basically controlled by this device.
They all wore on a belt. It gave them constant instructions, orders,
schedules beamed from a central council of governors.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
So like biological robots almost It seemed that way to
the team, highly intelligent but operating within very strict parameters,
which led to some major cultural clashes with the American
military mindset independence versus total conformity.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And this led to a confrontation, didn't it over the
team member who died.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yes, a really disturbing one. The team commander insisted on
getting the body of three toh eight back for proper burial.
EBA two was reluctant, but eventually took them to this
building becaus aside they called it a cloning facility. The
team saw these large tubs filled with well hideous looking creatures,
biological experiments, maybe specimens from other planets, and also beings
(13:55):
that looked intelligent, even human like, apparently grown from cells,
grown like artificial life exactly. And then the evens admitted
it they'd used Team member three too eight's body, his
cells to create a large Ebon like being. They'd essentially
repurposed him.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Oh my god, how did the team react?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Uttershock horror? The commander was furious. It revealed this incredibly pragmatic,
maybe even ruthless, utilitarian side to the evens that clashed
completely with their seemingly gentle demeanor.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
That must have changed everything. How did they cope after that?
Thirteen years is a long time.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's incredible they adapted, But they did. They showed amazing resilience. Eventually,
they couldn't take the heat and radiation of the initial
landing area near the equator, so they moved. Yes, they
relocated to a cooler region in Serpo's northern hemisphere. They
called it quadrant I, or nicknamed it Little Montana. Conditions
were better there. They even learned to fly, even aircraft
described as helicopter like.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Did they figure out the ebon power source? That crystal
rectangle thing?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They studied it extensively, the cr they called it. Their
analysis concluded it it was some kind of unlimited power
device using a perfectly formed particle of charged.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Antimatter antimatter power. Did we ever replicate it.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
The US government was apparently still trying and failing to
duplicate that CR technology is the latest two thousand and one.
We got the theory maybe, but not the practical application.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So thirteen years passed. They were supposed to be back
in ten.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
What happened? The return was delayed by three years, apparently
due to complexities in serpos orbital mechanics and the timing
needed for the wormhole tunnels. Time dilation might have played
a part.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Two.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They finally left and returned to Earth in nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
How many came back?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Eight out of the original twelve we know three hundred
and eight died on the way there. Another team member,
the doctor number seven fifty four, died on Cirpo from pneumonia,
and the other two they chose to stay voluntarily remained
behind on.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Surpo Wow stayed behind. So eight return. What happened to them? Parades, metals,
nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Secrecy was paramount. They were immediately isolated and put into
expensive debriefing. This went on for years, from nineteen seventy
eight until nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Six years of debriefing.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yes, the result was a massive report. Allegedly three thousand
pages long, plus five four hundred nineteen cassette tapes of
recorded debriefings and logs. The entire mission documented.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What became of the returnees after the debriefing.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Here's the truly tragic part. Their lives were significantly shortened.
The long term effects of the high radiation exposure on
SERPO took their toll. The last surviving member of the
SUPO team reportedly died in two thousand and two.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
None of them lived a long life after returning. That's
a heavy.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Price, an immense price, but from the government's perspective, looking
at the alleged payoff, it was perhaps seen as worth it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
What was the payoff? What did the US gain from
all the sacrifice?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Technology blueprints primarily plans for anti matter propulsion, schematics for
this universal grid travel system, the wormholes, particle beam weapon concepts,
advanced biological cloning techniques, and crucially, thirteen years of direct
human experience. It's living within an advanced alien civilization. It
fundamentally changed the US perspective on technology and well the cosmos.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It put them decades, maybe centuries ahead and understanding, even
if they couldn't replicate everything immediately.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
That seems to be the implication. Yes, a massive leap
in knowledge.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Okay, So as we wrap up this incredible story, here's
something really interesting to think about. The movie Close Encounters
of the.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Third Kind, Spielberg's classic.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It came out in nineteen seventy seven. That's while the
Serpo team was still on Surpo delayed.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Remember right, they didn't get back until seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yet the movie depicts key elements that mirror the Serpo
account remarkably closely. The military exchange program, twelve personnel being chosen,
a massive landing ship, the use of sign language and
music to communicate, even the sunglasses the returneys wore in
the film.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Spielberg himself has been quoted saying the film was based
on science fact, not just fiction exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So here's the provocative thought for you. The listener was
Close Encounters a de liberate leak, a piece of sci
fact disguised as entertainment, released while the real mission was
still ongoing, a way to gently introduce these concepts.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It makes you wonder, doesn't it. If that story, which
we all thought was fiction, had roots in a classified.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Reality, what other SI fact might be hiding in plain sight? Right? Now,
in the movies, books, or stories we consume every day,
what hints of classified reality are disguised as pure fantasy,
something to definitely mull over.
Okay, let's jump right in. Welcome to the deep dive.
This is where we take well, frankly unbelievable stuff, classified docs,
leaked intel, whispers from history, and piece together the story
you probably haven't heard. That's right, And today our mission
is quite something. We're diving deep into the alleged true
(00:21):
story behind the book Secret Journey to Planet Serpo. We're
turning what's claimed to be a detailed government report into
well a galactic adventure story for you, and it.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Really centers on this specific operation, Project Cerpo. The official
code name was Project Crystal Night. And this wasn't some
small thing. The sources were looking at alleges a very serious,
highly classified interstellar exchange program run by the Defense Intelligence Agency,
the DIA.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, interstellar exchange exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The core clan is pretty staggering. In nineteen sixty five,
twelve US military personnel traveled thirty eight light years away
to a planet called Sirpo. The plan was ten years,
but they ended up staying for thirty thirteen years.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Wow. And the information itself, where did that come from?
That's always the key.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Question, isn't it It is? And this is fascinating too.
We apparently only know about this because someone decided to
leak it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Slowly.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
It started in two thousand and five, Okay, an anonymous
source claiming to be a retired US government official started
sending these just massive email dumps to a UFO forum,
the UFO thread list. This email emails packed with details
designated top secret code.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Word, and people just believe this anonymous source.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
His credibility got a major boost. Almost immediately, other insiders,
people who supposedly had access, came forward. They confirmed his story,
saying his account matched almost exactly to the word what
they'd read in this huge secret historical document. Apparently it's
known inside as the Red Book.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
The Red Book. So okay, so we have the Mission
Project SERPO and the leak, But the why seems huge here?
Why send twelve people thirty eight light years? What drove
that kind of risk?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
To get that? You have to re way back.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The sources suggest that even before the famous Roswell crash
in forty seven, the US military was already it's aware
that things were more complicated than just earthly affairs. They
knew something was up.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay, so they were already thinking extraterrestrially.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
In a way.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yes, the stage for this story, the Serpo story actually
gets set back in the nineteen thirties and forties in Germany.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Germany, How does that connect.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Through a man named Carl Haushoffer. He was a high
ranking WWI VET a major general. After the war, he
spent time teaching in Japan and got initiated into two
very influential secret societies, which were the ultnationalistic Black Dragon
Society and maybe more importantly, the occult Green Dragon Society.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Cul Okay, now we're getting into some strange territory definitely.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
And this Green Dragon Society allegedly was the link to
the so called Green Men. Green Men, Yeah, supposedly connected
to this underground reptilian empire called Patala or Snake World,
believed to be under Tibet.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Wait. Reptilians under Tibet giving tech to the Nazis sounds
like it.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Sounds wild, I know, but this is what the sources
alleged was the actual origin of Nazi high technology. Wasn't
just brilliant engineering.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
See why would these Patala reptilians help the Nazis strategy?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Apparently these beings who could supposedly see through time or
maybe even travel through it figured that backing German militarism
would help their own goals weigh down the line like
fiftieth century goals.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The fiftieth century. That's hard to wrap your head around
using ww IR for something thousands of years later.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It is, But the immediate result, according to the story,
was technology. Househoffer became a key advisor to Hitler, founded
the Tool and Virill societies.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
The infamous Vrill Society.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Exactly, And this whole occult network basically came a pipeline
advanced anti gravity disc tech. The Honabu and Virile models
flowed from Podola to the SS, managed by General Hans Kamler.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And these weren't just blueprints. They actually built things.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Oh yeah, big things. The Hanebou the second was reportedly
seventy five feet across the Hanevou thread Nod two hundred
and thirty feet. There are even claims one of these
was sent on a joint German Japanese mission to Mars
in nineteen forty six.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
To Mars in nineteen forty six. That's mind blowing if true.
And where were they building and launching these from? It
couldn't have been mainland Germany.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
By the Antarctica. That was the Fortress neuschwabenlnd H.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The legendary Nazi Antarctic base.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Starting in nineteen thirty eight, they established this huge base
in Queen maud Land. It grew into an underground city,
No Berlin. Some sources claim maybe forty thousand people were
there by the war's end.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Forty thousand. How did they get them there?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Himmler used advanced U boats, the type xx on. They
could supposedly make the whole trips submerged. They transported the
disc prototypes. Scientists like Kamler and get this, ten thousand
specifically chosen Ukrainian women, blonde hair, blue eyes to breed
a pure Aryan civilization under the ice. This was supposed
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to be the seed of the Fourth Reich.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So this base wasn't just a hideout, It was an
active threat, a massive threat.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
The US knew about the disks, knew they couldn't match
the technology, and feared an invasion launch from.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Antarctica, which explains Operation Highjunts.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Exactly nineteen forty six, Admiral Bird leads this huge naval
force publicly its exploration, secretly find and destroyed No Berlin.
The US military realized WWII wasn't really over, it had
just gone interplanetary.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Okay, so the US is already deeply worried about off
world tech before nineteen forty seven. That changes the context
for Roswell completely.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It does so when the crash happens near Roswell, actually
the second crash that year, there was one near Sikoro. First, right,
it was a shock, sure, but maybe not the total
bolt from the blue we often imagine. And crucially, they
recovered something priceless, a live aliena eb one code named
(05:52):
Noah right later et e two and even correct.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
He was housed at Los Alamos. They identified him as
a machaan, not like a top scientist, but he was
incredibly valuable.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
How so what did he do over.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
The next five years? He taught linguists bits of the
Eben language, which was tonal, very complex, and eventually he
managed to repair the communications device from the crashed ship.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He fixed their communicator.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, and before he died in nineteen fifty two, the
environment here was tough on him. He sent six messages home.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
What did they say?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Things like a request for rescue, a suggestion for a meeting,
and crucially a proposal for a formal exchange program.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
An exchange program. Where did that idea come from?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Apparently his US military caretaker suggested it to him, and
the IBBNS replied they agreed to the exchange, but the
meeting date they set was more than ten years in
the future. Ten years.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Why the wait, That's a good question. Maybe travel time,
maybe preparation. But that long gap leads us to another
key event, Kingman, Arizona, nineteen fifty three.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
What happened at Kingman? Another crash?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
No, this was different. An Eben scout ship landed near
Kingman intentionally, it wasn't a crash, and it had four
live evans.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Aboard for this time, and this was pre arranged.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Highly prepared for.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yes, it suggests the Ebens were maybe delivering this craft
as a gift, a prototype to study. The evens were
taken to the same facility at Los Alamos, Aba one
had been in.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So now the US has a working ship and cooperative aliens.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Pretty much, and this interaction was vital for building trust.
The Evans helped the US team figure out some major
problems with the craft they'd recovered earlier, like what there
was this persistent humming sound. They couldn't stop. And the
big one solving the thermal issues for atmospheric reentry. The
evens helped with that.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Okay, so that's huge for reverse engineering.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
This cooperation really kicked off the reverse engineering program in
earnest at the Nevada Test Site Area fifty one starting
that year, and they had even scientists helping them for
about nine years. That built the trust needed for the
Big Exchange.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Nine years of working together. Okay, that makes sense. So
trust established, the exchange is back on.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Track, yep, fastward.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
In nineteen sixty two, President Kennedy reportedly issues the directive
for Project Crystal night time to select the team.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
The SURPO twelve ten men, two women. What were the criteria.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Extremely strict career military, single, no children, and preferably orphans orphans.
Why to minimize family ties to reduce the chance of
someone back home asking questions or missing them too much.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
These people needed to disappear.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
That's harsh. And then they were sheep dip right. What
exactly did that involve?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
It's deep cover terminology. Their existing military and personal records
were scrubbed, sealed, hidden away. They were issued simple three
digit numbers instead of names. Poof they basically ceased to
exist on paper.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Unbelievable. What about training.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Brutal high altitude endurance survival skills, psychops training, a condensed
ranger course. Most of it happened to Camp Piarry, Virginia,
the farm.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The CIA's training facility.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Right and the secrecy was intense. Right before they were
due to leave, the whole team was confined locked in.
Individuals at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Locked up their own team to.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Ensure absolute secrecy, prevent any last minute leaks or second thoughts.
Apparently one volunteer tried to back out at that point,
and what happened. He was told basically, fine, you can quit,
but you'll stay in this cell until the team gets back.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
In ten years.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Seriously, he quickly changed his mind.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
The commitment was total.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Okay, so the team is ready lockdown. Then the Abans
arrived for the diplomatic handover.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
April nineteen sixty four, White Sands Missile Range, the Abens land.
The selected US team members are waiting apparently in a
bus nearby, and the Abns bring this incredible gift, the
Yellow Book.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The Yellow Book describe that again, it wasn't paper.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It was described as a transparent block about two point
five inches thick. You held it, and text and images
would appear on its surface in whatever language you.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Were thinking it It read your mind for language reference.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Apparently so, and the content was staggering. It reportedly contained
two thousand years of Ebon h street related to Earth,
including the bombshell claim that an even had actually taken
the form of Jesus Christ about two thousand years prior,
specifically to nudge humanity towards certain spiritual paths.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Wait hold on. The aliens gave the US government a
device claiming they essentially founded Christianity.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That's what the source claims. The Yellow Book contained a
history that completely rewrites human religion and origins.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
How how did they even process that? That's beyond classified,
that's reality shattering.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You have to assume it was compartmentalized at the highest
levels treated its historical data from the Ebon perspective. The
immediate focus was the exchange the tech, not rewriting the Bible.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Right. Okay, so Yellow Book received When did the actual
exchange happen? When did the twelve leave?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
July nineteen sixty five, the location shifted to the Nevada
test site. The Cerpo twelve boarded the even ship and
they weren't traveling light.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
What did they bring? Forty five tons?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
You said, forty five tons a year? It was a
wild list. Three specially prepared jeeps, twenty four handguns, generators,
scientific equipment, medical.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Supplies, Janny creature comfort, one.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Thousand gallons of fuel incredibly, and recordings of Mozart and
the Beetles.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Mozart and the Beetles going to Zeta reticulate. Okay, so
they board the ship. The log start. What was the
journey like?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
According to the commander's logs, it was rough, really rough.
He described moving through space tunnels what we'd probably call wormholes.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
That's the description.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
This travel, moving through the time domain, as they put it,
made everyone incredibly sick, dizzy, confused. The pilot number one
oh two actually fainted and someone died. Yes, Team number
three oh eight died during the transit phase, a massive
blow right.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
At the start.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Terrible. Did they stay on the same ship the whole way?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Mid journey they transferred to a much larger Ebon mothership,
and this is where they saw some truly mind bending
tech like what remember the forty five tons of gear
The jeeps, fuel everything. The ebbns moved it all from
the smaller ship to the mothership in one big move, effortless.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Non move, forty five tons.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Like it weighed nothing clear demonstration of advanced anti gravity
or mass manipulation.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Just moved.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Okay, So they finally arrive. What was Surpo like?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They land on Surpo, fourth planet, orbiting the stars Zeta
Reticuli two. It's got two sons a day last forty
three Earth hours.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Two sons forty three hour days. What about the environment?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Hustle extremely hot, routinely hitting one hundred and forty degrees fahrenheit,
and high radiation levels much higher than Earth.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Not exactly paradise. Who greeted them?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Ebans?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Loads of them, and they all look pretty much identical
to the team. The only visual difference was that females
sometimes wore shawls.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Did they have a guide soon who could communicate?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yes, thankfully EBA two. She was a female Eban who
had learned English, reportedly almost fluent, maybe from studying ABE
one's interactions or the Yellow Book data. She became their
primary liaison.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
What were the Ovens like culturally? You said they were intelligent,
very average.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
IQ estimated one to sixty five, but rigid, highly structured,
almost lacking in creativity or spontaneity.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Oh so well, the.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Team discovered their daily lives were basically controlled by this device.
They all wore on a belt. It gave them constant instructions, orders,
schedules beamed from a central council of governors.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
So like biological robots almost It seemed that way to
the team, highly intelligent but operating within very strict parameters,
which led to some major cultural clashes with the American
military mindset independence versus total conformity.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
And this led to a confrontation, didn't it over the
team member who died.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yes, a really disturbing one. The team commander insisted on
getting the body of three toh eight back for proper burial.
EBA two was reluctant, but eventually took them to this
building becaus aside they called it a cloning facility. The
team saw these large tubs filled with well hideous looking creatures,
biological experiments, maybe specimens from other planets, and also beings
(13:55):
that looked intelligent, even human like, apparently grown from cells,
grown like artificial life exactly. And then the evens admitted
it they'd used Team member three too eight's body, his
cells to create a large Ebon like being. They'd essentially
repurposed him.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Oh my god, how did the team react?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Uttershock horror? The commander was furious. It revealed this incredibly pragmatic,
maybe even ruthless, utilitarian side to the evens that clashed
completely with their seemingly gentle demeanor.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
That must have changed everything. How did they cope after that?
Thirteen years is a long time.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
It's incredible they adapted, But they did. They showed amazing resilience. Eventually,
they couldn't take the heat and radiation of the initial
landing area near the equator, so they moved. Yes, they
relocated to a cooler region in Serpo's northern hemisphere. They
called it quadrant I, or nicknamed it Little Montana. Conditions
were better there. They even learned to fly, even aircraft
described as helicopter like.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Did they figure out the ebon power source? That crystal
rectangle thing?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They studied it extensively, the cr they called it. Their
analysis concluded it it was some kind of unlimited power
device using a perfectly formed particle of charged.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Antimatter antimatter power. Did we ever replicate it.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
The US government was apparently still trying and failing to
duplicate that CR technology is the latest two thousand and one.
We got the theory maybe, but not the practical application.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So thirteen years passed. They were supposed to be back
in ten.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
What happened? The return was delayed by three years, apparently
due to complexities in serpos orbital mechanics and the timing
needed for the wormhole tunnels. Time dilation might have played
a part.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Two.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They finally left and returned to Earth in nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
How many came back?
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Eight out of the original twelve we know three hundred
and eight died on the way there. Another team member,
the doctor number seven fifty four, died on Cirpo from pneumonia,
and the other two they chose to stay voluntarily remained
behind on.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Surpo Wow stayed behind. So eight return. What happened to them? Parades, metals,
nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Secrecy was paramount. They were immediately isolated and put into
expensive debriefing. This went on for years, from nineteen seventy
eight until nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Six years of debriefing.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yes, the result was a massive report. Allegedly three thousand
pages long, plus five four hundred nineteen cassette tapes of
recorded debriefings and logs. The entire mission documented.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
What became of the returnees after the debriefing.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Here's the truly tragic part. Their lives were significantly shortened.
The long term effects of the high radiation exposure on
SERPO took their toll. The last surviving member of the
SUPO team reportedly died in two thousand and two.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
None of them lived a long life after returning. That's
a heavy.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Price, an immense price, but from the government's perspective, looking
at the alleged payoff, it was perhaps seen as worth it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
What was the payoff? What did the US gain from
all the sacrifice?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Technology blueprints primarily plans for anti matter propulsion, schematics for
this universal grid travel system, the wormholes, particle beam weapon concepts,
advanced biological cloning techniques, and crucially, thirteen years of direct
human experience. It's living within an advanced alien civilization. It
fundamentally changed the US perspective on technology and well the cosmos.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It put them decades, maybe centuries ahead and understanding, even
if they couldn't replicate everything immediately.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
That seems to be the implication. Yes, a massive leap
in knowledge.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Okay, So as we wrap up this incredible story, here's
something really interesting to think about. The movie Close Encounters
of the.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Third Kind, Spielberg's classic.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
It came out in nineteen seventy seven. That's while the
Serpo team was still on Surpo delayed.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Remember right, they didn't get back until seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yet the movie depicts key elements that mirror the Serpo
account remarkably closely. The military exchange program, twelve personnel being chosen,
a massive landing ship, the use of sign language and
music to communicate, even the sunglasses the returneys wore in
the film.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Spielberg himself has been quoted saying the film was based
on science fact, not just fiction exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So here's the provocative thought for you. The listener was
Close Encounters a de liberate leak, a piece of sci
fact disguised as entertainment, released while the real mission was
still ongoing, a way to gently introduce these concepts.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
It makes you wonder, doesn't it. If that story, which
we all thought was fiction, had roots in a classified.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Reality, what other SI fact might be hiding in plain sight? Right? Now,
in the movies, books, or stories we consume every day,
what hints of classified reality are disguised as pure fantasy,
something to definitely mull over.
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