April 7, 2026 • 36 mins
Regular on the show Dr. Mark Christian provided all the newest insider info after Donald Trump's social media post. He predicted a ceasefire LIVE on the big show two hours before it happened!!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Frankly, being in this fabulous market is that we can
bring on smart people who can give us information that
we need. So today at eight o'clock, I believe the
world is supposed to end, or at least part of
it in studio with us right now, Mark Christian and
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has joined us. Mark Doctor Mark Christian by the way,
like real doctor. No no, not not like Joe Biden.
It's you're a real doctor. So for those of you
that may not know and have not heard Mark on
the show before. Mark is originally from Egypt. He has
tremendous insight on that portion of the world, and so
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this is this isn't you know. We're not going through filters.
We're talking to a real guy who really grew up
in that region. Understands this better than most. So that's
why we have him on the show. All right, did
I give you too big of a build up?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Chris Baker? You are very hot? Which channel are you
part of? I listened to you on the way over here,
so yeah, yeah, So which channel are you from?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Which channel are you from?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Which channel from? I'm not talking about my only fans page.
Should put up an only fans page? Just me doing
long work.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, there is serious stuff going on actually in the
wood nowadays, and we have a deadline that civilization, one
of the oldest civilizations in human history. Trump is threatening
that he's going to wipe them off the map.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
How do you think that's playing over there?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Not very good? Actually, they don't, like you mentioned actually earlier,
Iran do not care about those kind of crazy stuff,
and they can sense it a little bit of a
despair and a little bit of frustration over there, and
they understand that it is coming.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Actually Trump is focused on the street of her moves.
He's not talking about you know, free you know, your
amp with anything like that. So basically they understand that
this threat coming from frustration from the oil prices and
from the market kind of you know, going down and
so forth. So they understand that they are hurting Trump
where it really hurts, and they see the frustration coming
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out of that. So there is no response really coming
out of their onions. But at the same time, they
are trying to work a deal behind the scenes. So
you might actually see in the next couple of minutes
right now as we speak, some kind of a deal
will come out to Post topone again the deadline and
who is playing that is the Pakistanis and the Egyptians
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and Qataris are not as much. But basically this Pakistan.
Pakistan is a major Sunni Muslim country that they already
have nuclear weapons, and they are a major kind of
power and population in the Muslim world and in the
world in general, and they have been hurting, one of
the top actually in the economists, they are the one
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of the most hurting countries from all of this war
because of their dependence on oil and financial you know,
influx of money from the Gulf area. So they are
hurting so bad. And they actually also happen to have
a very good relationship with the Iranians, and this is
why they are trying to work a deal behind the
behind the door, behind doors, and they are trying to
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reach kind of a truce for forty five days. And
Trump will come out and says, you know what, I
threatened them, and here they caved in, and he will
declare victory. But I still don't like the language, Chris
to be complete. I love Trump, and I don't want
to hurt anybody that makes Trump as their own savior.
I don't have any savior as except Jesus Christ, but
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away from loving and you know, and Trump is awesome
and is amazing, and he has forty percent change of
learning everything before it happens. But I don't like the language.
This is not American.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, you know, you bring up a really good point
because I was kind of looking around like night, trying
to find the next biggest threat an American president has
ever given, and I can't find anything close to this,
because it's not the way America do business.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You know, in the United States of America, we are
we are people who are really look for the good
of the people. You know, our foundation, our founding and
all of that stuff. We try to make a big
difference for good in the world. You know, even even
though sometimes people blame on us. Hey we are going
this for oil, going this for financial gain, and you know,
and try to find like a hidden agenda for the
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United States. But on the surface, we try to keep
our dignity or respect our leadership in being a model
of all nations. And this is what makes America really
a great nation that is unique in human history, that
the way we do business, we are not like the
you know, the old School of Romans or the Persians
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or whatever. They're gonna keep coming in and wipe the
nations in front of them. We've never done that, and
I don't think this is the way we do business.
So people are actually not liking the language that's coming
out of Trump, even though it seems like, you know,
he's going into a boxing match or a wrestling match
and I'm gonna wipe you off and hyper bully of
the wordings. But again, it does not sit well with
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American people because we are we are better than this.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
What about the fact that, Okay, we've been dealing with
these guys for forty seven years and they've killed a
lot of Americans. They've been they've just been a thorn
in the side of what the term, i'l use civilized
society for decades. Yes, do you think that we just
got to a point where somebody had to just lay
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down the law and say, look, either we're gonna make
this work or I'm just gonna wipe you out.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't think it is that actually, Chris, to be
honest with you again, I love Israel, and I love
you know. I believe that Isral has the right to
exist and flourish and to be among the top nations
because of the contribution to human history. But at the
same time, I think this war is really for saving
Israel the agony of this Iranian threat that is going
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on for forty seven years. Make no mistake, you know,
we are the United States of America, and I'm proud,
you know, of our country have accomplished. And I don't
think even nuclear can actually threaten us. To be completely
honest with you, I'm going to be I'm honest.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You know, the Russians have been threatening us with nuclear
weapons during the Cold War, and we have the North Korea,
and we have Pakistan's a major Muslim country. I don't
think it is a threat to the United States. You
are capable to fight back and to keep people that
you know where they belong. You know absolutely, you know
if somebody is going to be crazy, they know that
they're going to mess up with the wrong country, and
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we're gonna literally, at this point in time, teach them
a lesson for good. So Iran was not a threat
to us, but Iran was a threat to Israel, Okay,
And that's a fact. They have been fighting back their expansion,
their leadership. Whenever Israel tried to show kind of more
exerting of more power in the Middle East or try
to more leadership in the Middle East. Iran has been
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trying their best to force so long to put them,
you know, to fight back through hisbel law. When hisbel
law was formed to kick the Israel out of out
of southern Lebanon, and when Hamas was lacking funding, Iran
stepped into fund them. When the PLO stopped get stopping
getting funding from the Soviets, immediately the Iranians stepped into
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give the funding. So they have been funding all of
those forces that fight Israel. So Iran was a threat
to Israel and we are doing this to stop that
threat for Israel. And this is one of the biggest
things that I would love people to pay attention is
when we are going into this war, there's two different
agendas that is at play, Israeli's agenda and the United
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States agenda or the way we look at the end
of this war. Israel was looking at the full destruction
of the military capabilities of Israel of Iran. Israel looking
for the destruction of the capabilities of Iran and also
a change of leadership over there. And they don't care
about how that is going to affect oil prices or
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market prices, any of that stuff. For the United States,
it is very important for us to keep things intact
in the Middle East because we have so much interest
over there. And you know, make no mistake, if there
is a humanitarian disaster is in Iran, it is not
they are not going to find refugion in Israel. They're
gonna come to the United States or Europe. If there
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is instability over there. It is our allies in Emirates
and in Saudi Arabia and Qatar that will affect us.
So for us, we cannot see a country that is
a failed nation. For Israel, they don't care about that.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Wow, well boom, there you go. Two different objectives here, Yes,
Czars is more of a business objective. We just they
want they want to keep the oil flowing, they want
to keep trade flowing. Affect us, and they can at
the same time try to keep those guys from blowing
a bunch of people up.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Absolutely, and we don't want to have any another immigration
crisis in the United States when we have a lot
of millions of Iranians coming to the United States to
find refugee because they cannot go anywhere else. We cannot
have the street of Hermus in a bloody strait where
you cannot have a flow of you know, economy through it.
So all of that stuff affect us because the stock
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market affects us, you know, stability in the world, energy flow,
all of that affects us big time. So our objective
is different from Israel, and I think this is the
biggest problem that actually led us to this point in
time that we are in right now.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
We'll get to your questions first, and then Mark, I
have a real I got a real banger of a
question for you. So get ready, get ready, all right,
let's talk. Ready, let's talk to Hayesus on news radio
eleven ten kfab Welcome, Hey.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Sus, how are you doing today? Thank you for a
great program. I'm gonna say you are a brother in
Jesus Christ and my correct sir, and then yep, okay,
And as we see the unrest, can you maybe explain
also to the audience and this is not just a
physical battle, but it's a spiritual battle as well between
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Christians and all of those that are not for Christians
and the faith of Christians. And we're seeing that, I
mean we saw that happen with a lot of the
Islamic extremists. That's why Egypt didn't let them in, let
the let the people from guys that go in because
they were extreme and they had issues. The people in Jordan,
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they have a history of going in and bringing out
the worst because they go in and they take over.
And we're seeing that happen here in the US in Dearborn, Michigan,
in a lot of these places in Texas, and you
hear a lot about how the I mean even in
New York City, how this mayor is very is a
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very extremist, and not only in Islam, but in socialism
and communism. Man, can you explain to you how this is?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Europe you're breaking up there, Sorry, sir, So this what's
the in your opinion? Mark the spiritual aspect of this.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
As a Christian and and a follow of just Christ,
I follow the biggest commandment is go make disciples of
all nations. You know, even though the muslims uh and
I was in that camp growing up, as you know,
I grew up as a Muslim, and I understand the
ideas of jihad and fighting for the cause of the
religion and try to spread the religion with the sword
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and and all of those things that I grew up with.
And Muhammad himself, you know, owning swords at the time
of his death, and he was a fighter and a
head of a state, and and and and he was
talking about prophecies of fighting and taking over nations. I
do see that this is more than just a regular
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war that is taking place. It's more spiritual war, absolutely, uh.
And it is also a war between two civilizations, and
it's a real war between the Western kind of ideas
and ideals of freedom and other things. That is really
we hold dear to our hearts and to our souls
and our lives. And with the people that actually fighting,
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and as you mentioned earlier, they would glorify death and
they actually part of their religious duties and festivities, especially
Shia Muslims, that they have to stand for the Hussein,
which is the grandson of Muhammad, and how he died
standing and they glorify his death and they are praying
that they will die as he did. But for me,
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as a Christian, the biggest thing is I'm not gonna
get involved. I'm not going to return the sword with
the sword. I'm gonna I'm gonna try to pray that
Iranians and all Muslims and all nations will get to
know Jesus to grace of forgiveness through Him on the cross.
And I am not going to advocate for any kind
of a holy war as a Christian whatsoever. We are
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not over here to spread Christianity through a sword whatsoever.
Jesus told us to go and spread the word of
God and baptize all nations in the name of the
Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. And this
is my prayer as a Christian. When we are facing threat,
we have to stop that threat, but we reserve very
quickly to peace so we can spread prosperity and grace
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of God.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well, you know, if you look at history, the United States,
World War One, World War II, go to Korea. I
don't even want to bring up Vietnam because that was insane.
But the United States and World War two with their
allies Russia and Britain conquered Germany. We didn't take over Germany,
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they rebuilt it.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
We rebuilt it after that, right, So.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That history he plays into exactly what you're saying. Even
the President himself has said, I'm trying to do this
for the Iranian grandchildren. You know, he says, I don't.
I don't want to go killing all these people. It's
the leadership he's going after. But you know, you bring up,
you brought up earlier the two different agendas. Yes, you
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know his agendas not to conquer Iran and just take
it over.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And he's he's also popped off with hey, we wiped
him out. We can do what we want, you know.
But that's him being a New Yorker.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, he is frustrated. Chris. You have to understand that
there was some strategic mistakes has been you know, done
in this war as we got started. Donald Trump actually
have been as a president, even in his first term,
have been faced by a lot of dares, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
They told him, if you ever dare to move the
embassy to Jerusalem that the world will go into fire.
And he said, no, I will do it. And he
did it and nothing happened. As a matter of fact,
it was peaceful and everything. Everybody praised them when they
told him, hey, we're gonna go and take Venezuela and
you know, go fight the Cortel or fight the people
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who are the narco kind of traders, and we're gonna
take them out and things are gonna go bad. And
he did, and he dared, and he said, no, I
will do it. He's a true American, a patriotic one.
He wants to go after the real problems. When they
told him about Madura Madua and then he took him
out out of his home before he even hided in
the closet. Uh, that was an unbelievable victory.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So when he has been in there multiple times and
was able to deliver, I think that kind of overshadowed
that this decision is different. I believe, truly believe that
the United States military and Trump Donald Trump as the
head of you know, of our nation and is the
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commander in chief. When they thought that taking out the
Ayatola Kommene, that this will end the regime immediately, that
things will fall apart immediately, he misunderstood the nature of
the Iranian people. He misunderstood, like you said earlier, the
Persian Yes, the Persians are not the Iranians today, there
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is a bigger mix of that. But the Iranian people actually,
people have to understand that they are very proud people
that they are ninety four million Iranians over there that
they feel the threat of other nations in a way.
They have been prosecuted by even other Muslims for the
last fourteen hundred years, so they have a fight for survival. Also,
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there was a misunderstanding about the different layers of the
Iranian system and regime that was built on survival. You know,
you look at the constitution that they put together. The
Iranian regime in nineteen seventy nine was built on two things.
The measure two things. Number one, how to survive as
a regime. Number two, how to expand into the Muslim world,
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into the sunny world. This is how their Nians have
been functioning. So ignoring all of that stuff actually led
to the frustration that we have today. Another big strategic
problem is we don't have mind sweepers that will be
able to clear up the strait of her moose. And
I told you that earlier today, Chris, and you're surprised
about that. You know that was a strategic mistake. And
I think, make no mistake. The NASAIS is capable of
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doing things. But we actually decommissioned most of our and
not if not all, of our mind sweepers that will
be able to take out the minds that their Unians
are putting in in the state of her Moovese. But
I do believe that actually the States military forces went
to this war thinking that it will never come to
the point of blocking the strait of her Moose and
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that the regime will fall apart immediately after we take
Atola Komene. Misunderstanding how the system is layered. Survival is
a bigger thing. They have, you know, the different layers
of more than set six people that will kind of
take any position that is vacant and so forth. So
this some strategic mistakes has been done, and misinformation that
have been given get us to this point of frustration.
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Does not make Trump bad. It makes him getting wrong information,
because you are as good as a leader as the
advice that you get. And again it goes back to
the same point. I think there was two different objectives
going into this war. I love the State of Israel.
I love Trump, but I am trying to be objective
over here. We are in a point that is not
very it's not very envious of Trump, to be completely
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honest with you, but he's trying to get out of it.
As a leader he can. He's doing his best, and
I trust in our military. If it comes to it,
we will deliver even if we you know, look at
how the United States military was able to go into
an operation to free the pilot and.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
The target yes to go and rescue best crew members.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
This is an unbelievable operation. Our military is capable. But
I think we have been went into the war with
a little bit of a strategic mistakes. But I think
we will correct them. And I believe this is why
the statements of Donald Trump and how he's making it,
I don't agree with them. I don't agree with them,
and I don't think Iranian will respond to them. He
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wants to take credit for him for if they caved in,
But make no mistake, their Onians are not caving in.
Their Onians are trying to work with the Pakistani today,
and we might hear in the next hour, Chris that
there is a kind of you know, a postponing of
everything and things will go down. Make no mistake, this
might happen. Trump might take advantage of that, but I
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think we should understand that we came to this point
out of frustration, and hopefully I'm praying that God will
save the Nut States and we will get out of
it dignified and winners in a shape or form, for
the sake of the Nuted States and for the sake
of Iranian people.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Wow. Oh no, really, Oh you're Mike one. No, no,
I'm kidding. This is the insight that you're not going
to get anywhere else. It's not anti American, it's it's
pro people. That's what I'm That's how I see it.
I'm pro people. I want people to be happy. I
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want people to live good lives.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And I am two things in one. I am pro
Jesus and I am pro American. So I can also
pridos two out of my heart, on my mind, on
my soul. And I believe that there is a lot
of great American Americans who live with the same kind
of values every single day.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, lots of them. Mark Christian is a fascinating man.
He is uh well, he grew up in Egypt. He
knows this region well, and he, to me, is the
perfect guy to talk to in a situation as we
find ourselves in as a great nation of incredibly good
looking people. Mark immigrated to the United States because they
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said you're too good looking. You're gonna have to leave
Egypt and go and associate with people who were equally
as attractive as you. Isn't that your immigration story?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
My immigration story is I am blessed to be part
of this great nation. Can you imagine how beautiful and
amazing this country is. We aren't involved with this disastrous,
you know, war in the Middle East and at the
same time sending people to the moon to circle the moon.
What kind of country can do that, right?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
You know?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
And two weeks ago we are still breathing oscars instead
of breathing and dancing and everything. And you know, this
is a great country, absotitute, this is a great country.
All right, Let's get some of our fine listeners who've
been hanging on. Let's see where do I want to go?
All right, let's talk to no Where am I going? Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Steve, welcome the news radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Hi guys, thanks for taking my call. I'm curious what
Mark thinks if the Iranians did go ahead and get
lukes produced, would they use them themselves mostly to threat
but would they also potentially put them in the hands
of terrorists to do the work that they always seem
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to have a history of supporting I'll get out of
your way and let you guys talk about it, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Iran getting nuclear weapons is something that we should do
whatever it takes to stop them from having. And I
don't believe the strikes is doing that, but you know what,
I will take it for now. But to answer your question,
if their Onean's got nuclear weapons is going to be
a game changer in the Middle East, and definitely they're
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going to start using them as a power, you know,
position to change the dynamics of the Middle East and
to be head and head to head with the state
of Israel. And there is a lot of going to
be compromise and things changing because of that. So for
multiple reasons, I don't think i Onians should get nuclear weapons.
Are they going to put it in the hands of
tourists and so forth. Nobody can predict what this regime
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will do. This regime is Rouge regime. They are Shia
Muslims who have been acting like they are being prosecuted,
which is the truth, and so you never can to
predict what kind of mentality. You have to keep in mind,
this is not the majority of Muslims. They are fifteen
percent of the Muslims only, and they are Shia Muslims,
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and they are prosecuted by the rest of the Muslims
for fourteen hundred years, and they feel like they are
you know, under threat all the time. And because of
all of that, they feel like they have to fight
whatever it takes to be survivals so they can create
you know, some kind of you know, instability in the region.
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Absolutely what they would try to take out the Middle
East and the rest of the golf countries. This is
part of their constitution. As a matter of fact, it's
not far fetched. Part of their constitution is two things
I mentioned earlier. I'm going to repeat them very quickly.
Survival from any attacks from within or from outside. They
build the regime on that end of narrative. And the
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other thing is expansion into the Middle East, expansion into
the Gulferia, expansion into all the way to Saudi Arabia,
even taking over Egypt. Building a Shia Islamic dynasty that
has been buried in history, the one that is reacted.
This is their agenda. What they're gonna do with the
nuclear weapons. It's never good and they should never have it.
But how to deal with it. This is the this
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is the question that we have on the table four O.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Two five, five, eight, eleven ten on the Chris Bakers Show.
Let's talk to John. You're on news radio eleven t
in KFAB with doctor Mark Christian. John.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Hey, Mark, you know me as as John and Rachel.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Awesome? Hi John?
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Are you good? Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Now? You you've told me that you that Muslims in
general do not have to tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Absolutely? The tikiya, which is one of the you know,
the methods in Islam to cover up and the lying
has to be for the purpose of furthering the cause
of Islam or protecting a Muslim life, which is kind
of a huge, big, kind of an area and very shady.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Well, now, did the regime in Iran kill like thirty
five thousand of their own this year for demonstrating?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
John? I am actually I like complete honesty, and I'm
going to tell you this. Nobody knows exactly how many
people have been killed in the protest in the last protest.
Some people say there are three thousands, some people say
they are forty six thousand. We don't have any kind
of transparency either from the regime or from the people
on the ground. So, yes, the Ranian gen killed people,
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killed those who are protesting and calling them enemies and
calling them asians of foreign country, and they're calling them
working with the Israelis and working with the United States,
and for that purpose they killed them. We don't know
exactly the numbers. It doesn't matter one person or forty
six or fifty thousand. A regime is ready to kill
their own people. Is not a regime that's supposed to
be in staying in power, period. But how can we
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do it? This is the question.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
We have to do it with objectives of the United
States and the future of the United States in mind,
and you have to keep understanding how to deal with
the problems in a way that will never hurt any
American or hurt America in the future financially or militarily.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Mark Christian is our guest here on the Chrispaker Program.
So yesterday in the news the cost team or however
you say, it's Solomony custom Sole Mooney. Yes, they gave
his niece and other little smoke show that is related
to him. They gave him the boot, yes, out of
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Los Angeles. And I just wonder how many of these
guys calling the shots over there are even actually over
there in your opinion.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, custom solomoney has been killed by the United States
of America during during Trump the first administration, he called
this and this is another dating thing, when Trump called, hey,
we're going to kill customs sala money things, hell will
break loose, and he did it and nothing happened. So
they give him the kind of the narrative to do
what he was doing today. But you know, I'm going
to tell you something, Chris, as a matter of fact,
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that story is not by kicking the custom solo many
relatives out of the United States, but actually the videos
of how his relatives were living in the United States,
the helicopters, the extravaganza, the living large and no hi job,
no Islamic traditions, nothing and all of it is about
drinking and having fun. That was actually more detrimental to
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the regime over there more than Trump statements today. This
has created a problem in your own more than anything else,
because the people on the ground all of a sudden
have seen the hypocrisy of custom sol money because actually
they look him, They have a they have a they
have a festive for him right now, So all of
a sudden, his redative is living this this way. That
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was detrimental to the image of the regime more than
any message that Trump did. I know Trump loves to
be you know, I hope he's not hitting me right
now because I have to tell him his messages are awesome, crazy,
you know, he's I love his six back and I
would love to have his head. He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But you know what amazing amazing? Well, but you know,
if you look at history, you had uh when when
Israel was reckon Gaza, you would hear that the so
called Palestinian authorities and Cutter, right, these guys are billionaires,
they're in Cutter They're not They're not facing any of
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the things. And this has been a big beef for
me for many years. Era Fat was a rip off.
It just it was sotle an untold amount of money. Absolutely,
So that's why I have to go that states by
the way, Yeah, and I have to ask the question
we're gonna go to break and he answered on the
way back, but how many? How many people or even
I've also heard that the new Ayatola is a huge
(29:09):
real estate owner in the UK. He owns some of
the finest homes uh and some of the nicest parts
of the UK. That's what I've read about it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I'm going to tell you a rumor that is very strong. Actually,
some people think that he's actually right now is in
u K.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
That's what I think too.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yes, But you ask me the question about hypocrisy and Islam. Yeah,
are you serious about that question? I think I think
that started by the inception of Islam by the leaders
of Islam from the very beginning. You know, you're talking
about hypocrisy and Islamic leadership and and all of that
stuff that's that's entrenched in the religion.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Wow about that.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I'm sorry, I'm gone.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I up with it.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I grew up with a lot of leaders I grew up.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
The mom of Alazzo Universities was a friend of my father.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I went to him.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
As a matter of fact, there was statements came out.
You know, my dad was asking why you're doing this?
You know you're not supposed to do that, and he said,
are you judging me? Don't don't see that in public.
That was actually because I was in that circle and
hypocrisy is part of the secret.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Of the circle. Oh wow. Well, you know what you
come to think of it, Maybe that could be where
Washington makes a deal. Hey, look, we're a bunch of
hypocrites too. Really, Oh okay, now we can talk.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Are you going to talk about the Saudist leaders and
Islamic leaders over there?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I went to parties in Mecca. I was this religious
kid growing up, and I was taking everything serious, you know,
and I have to follow everything. And then after we
finished in Mecca, which is the holiest places of his
life through the pebbles, yes, and then I went to
a party, and I have seen things I've never imagined
I will see. It was like a King Kardashian nowadays
in Mecca, in the holiest place people drinking. All of
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the hypocrisy is part of the religion and institution of
Islam from top down everywhere.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
So you think there could possibly be a light at
the end of the time all through Pakistan today.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I true believe that we might not have to, you know,
wipe a civilization of the map, hopefully, and I'm hoping
that we will come to some kind of an agreement
so America will come out of this as an exit
tramp with dignity and actually a future plan that because
I believe that actually the way that Iran can change
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is by gradually, but not not like very slow gradually
changing the culture over there. I think we created so
much chaos over there and hurt and weakness of the
regime that things start kind of moving forward in the
right direction very quickly. I don't think this kind of
a dogma of the Iranian regime and the inclused and
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that has been exposed no matter what. Yes, they're holding
to their life. They are surviving, but I don't think
for long.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So a lot of energy people that I've known over
the years have said that it's really hard to actually
make deals there because people will change their mind the
very next stay and they lie about it too. Yeah.
So if Iran in the US come to an agreement,
look we'll open the straight of horror moves and you'll
quit blowing everybody up and we'll move on with our lives.
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If that regime stays in power, do you think something
like that could last or will eventually, we'll be right
back where we started.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
You are missing a bigger player in all of this, actually,
which is China. Okay, it's not about the regime keeping
the world and all of that stuff. The Chinese are
the biggest benefactory of the whole Iranian regime. You have
to keep in mind that the Chinese are dependent on
the oil that comes almost free from Iran. Ninety percent
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of the oil cris ninety percent of Iranian oil goes
to China and they are getting it for almost free
because they put four hundred billion dollars of investment in
infrastructure over there, and they are agained of trying to
milk the cow until the end, and they were using
you know, venezuela as well. But then we are able
to take venezuela away from their oneans, so from the Chinese.
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So now the Chinese is going to be trying to
invest for them. The Strait of Rumuz is important as well,
So you are dealing with behind the same power, which
is like you know, so many people look at that
as end of times kind of joining forces between Yagog
and Magog, which is the Chinese and the Iranians, but
in reality they're working with each other. And I think
one of the biggest objectives of Donald Trump and the
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noted States is to take control of the of the
Hogue Island where most of the oil is going. So
we can stop this influx of oil to the Chinese.
This is the key that people need to understand. You
know that island. If then States were able to to
control that, then we control the Iranian oil. Then we
can stop the influx of oil to the Chinese. And
that will make it a fair game between the Nut
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States and China when it comes to military, when it
comes to economy, when it comes to financial imagine China
or any kind of business having free energy for for years.
This is not fair when you're dealing with in a
financial way. So stopping that would be great things. So
this is one of the things of objectives, big objectives
of n States and Donald Trump to stop that influx.
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Can we trust their Oneans to follow through? I don't
think so. Okay, their Onians are not to be trusted,
and they're gonna play games, They're gonna lie, they're gonna
try to buy time as much as they can. The
best thing is to do is to try to find
and in with the Iranian people. We're gonna try to
change Iran from within over time and quickly and fast.
The youth is dying for freedom, for education, for internet,
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for all out of things. Let us kind of bank
on this youth in they are twenty five to forty
percent of their Unian people who are dying to join
the civilization that we live in. And those are the
people if we play with them, they're gonna change their
heart and mind and they will change the country froom
with them very quickly.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
And do you think, real quick, do you think that
the Chinese can rain in the Iraanian regime?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Well, actually, the Iranians threat today was hey, if things
go south for us, and this said this publicly, our
allies will come to our aid. And some people say
what kind of allies they are? And I think the Chinese.
So yes, the Chinese will do whatever it takes. But
the Chinese have a very big, important kind of a strategy.
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Did you not want to get involved in a military
conflict at any cost except if it is absolutely necessary.
You have to keep in mind the Chinese. And this
is something that people need to understand. The Chinese has
a lot of financial gain and financial control over the
world without firing one bullet. And this is the agenda.
This is what they're fighting for, and this is the
real enemy of the United States of America. The Chinese,
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you know, agenda versus the United States, freedom versus you know, communists, communists,
everything else.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Back all right, Mark Christian, doctor, Mark Christian, God bless you.
That was fantastic having you in today.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I hope, I hope we break news later today and
then we'll be able to say, yeah, we had it first.
Frankly, being in this fabulous market is that we can
bring on smart people who can give us information that
we need. So today at eight o'clock, I believe the
world is supposed to end, or at least part of
it in studio with us right now, Mark Christian and
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has joined us. Mark Doctor Mark Christian by the way,
like real doctor. No no, not not like Joe Biden.
It's you're a real doctor. So for those of you
that may not know and have not heard Mark on
the show before. Mark is originally from Egypt. He has
tremendous insight on that portion of the world, and so
(00:48):
this is this isn't you know. We're not going through filters.
We're talking to a real guy who really grew up
in that region. Understands this better than most. So that's
why we have him on the show. All right, did
I give you too big of a build up?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Chris Baker? You are very hot? Which channel are you
part of? I listened to you on the way over here,
so yeah, yeah, So which channel are you from?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Which channel are you from?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Which channel from? I'm not talking about my only fans page.
Should put up an only fans page? Just me doing
long work.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, there is serious stuff going on actually in the
wood nowadays, and we have a deadline that civilization, one
of the oldest civilizations in human history. Trump is threatening
that he's going to wipe them off the map.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
How do you think that's playing over there?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Not very good? Actually, they don't, like you mentioned actually earlier,
Iran do not care about those kind of crazy stuff,
and they can sense it a little bit of a
despair and a little bit of frustration over there, and
they understand that it is coming.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Actually Trump is focused on the street of her moves.
He's not talking about you know, free you know, your
amp with anything like that. So basically they understand that
this threat coming from frustration from the oil prices and
from the market kind of you know, going down and
so forth. So they understand that they are hurting Trump
where it really hurts, and they see the frustration coming
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out of that. So there is no response really coming
out of their onions. But at the same time, they
are trying to work a deal behind the scenes. So
you might actually see in the next couple of minutes
right now as we speak, some kind of a deal
will come out to Post topone again the deadline and
who is playing that is the Pakistanis and the Egyptians
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and Qataris are not as much. But basically this Pakistan.
Pakistan is a major Sunni Muslim country that they already
have nuclear weapons, and they are a major kind of
power and population in the Muslim world and in the
world in general, and they have been hurting, one of
the top actually in the economists, they are the one
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of the most hurting countries from all of this war
because of their dependence on oil and financial you know,
influx of money from the Gulf area. So they are
hurting so bad. And they actually also happen to have
a very good relationship with the Iranians, and this is
why they are trying to work a deal behind the
behind the door, behind doors, and they are trying to
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reach kind of a truce for forty five days. And
Trump will come out and says, you know what, I
threatened them, and here they caved in, and he will
declare victory. But I still don't like the language, Chris
to be complete. I love Trump, and I don't want
to hurt anybody that makes Trump as their own savior.
I don't have any savior as except Jesus Christ, but
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away from loving and you know, and Trump is awesome
and is amazing, and he has forty percent change of
learning everything before it happens. But I don't like the language.
This is not American.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, you know, you bring up a really good point
because I was kind of looking around like night, trying
to find the next biggest threat an American president has
ever given, and I can't find anything close to this,
because it's not the way America do business.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
You know, in the United States of America, we are
we are people who are really look for the good
of the people. You know, our foundation, our founding and
all of that stuff. We try to make a big
difference for good in the world. You know, even even
though sometimes people blame on us. Hey we are going
this for oil, going this for financial gain, and you know,
and try to find like a hidden agenda for the
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United States. But on the surface, we try to keep
our dignity or respect our leadership in being a model
of all nations. And this is what makes America really
a great nation that is unique in human history, that
the way we do business, we are not like the
you know, the old School of Romans or the Persians
(04:53):
or whatever. They're gonna keep coming in and wipe the
nations in front of them. We've never done that, and
I don't think this is the way we do business.
So people are actually not liking the language that's coming
out of Trump, even though it seems like, you know,
he's going into a boxing match or a wrestling match
and I'm gonna wipe you off and hyper bully of
the wordings. But again, it does not sit well with
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American people because we are we are better than this.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
What about the fact that, Okay, we've been dealing with
these guys for forty seven years and they've killed a
lot of Americans. They've been they've just been a thorn
in the side of what the term, i'l use civilized
society for decades. Yes, do you think that we just
got to a point where somebody had to just lay
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down the law and say, look, either we're gonna make
this work or I'm just gonna wipe you out.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I don't think it is that actually, Chris, to be
honest with you again, I love Israel, and I love
you know. I believe that Isral has the right to
exist and flourish and to be among the top nations
because of the contribution to human history. But at the
same time, I think this war is really for saving
Israel the agony of this Iranian threat that is going
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on for forty seven years. Make no mistake, you know,
we are the United States of America, and I'm proud,
you know, of our country have accomplished. And I don't
think even nuclear can actually threaten us. To be completely
honest with you, I'm going to be I'm honest.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You know, the Russians have been threatening us with nuclear
weapons during the Cold War, and we have the North Korea,
and we have Pakistan's a major Muslim country. I don't
think it is a threat to the United States. You
are capable to fight back and to keep people that
you know where they belong. You know absolutely, you know
if somebody is going to be crazy, they know that
they're going to mess up with the wrong country, and
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we're gonna literally, at this point in time, teach them
a lesson for good. So Iran was not a threat
to us, but Iran was a threat to Israel, Okay,
And that's a fact. They have been fighting back their expansion,
their leadership. Whenever Israel tried to show kind of more
exerting of more power in the Middle East or try
to more leadership in the Middle East. Iran has been
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trying their best to force so long to put them,
you know, to fight back through hisbel law. When hisbel
law was formed to kick the Israel out of out
of southern Lebanon, and when Hamas was lacking funding, Iran
stepped into fund them. When the PLO stopped get stopping
getting funding from the Soviets, immediately the Iranians stepped into
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give the funding. So they have been funding all of
those forces that fight Israel. So Iran was a threat
to Israel and we are doing this to stop that
threat for Israel. And this is one of the biggest
things that I would love people to pay attention is
when we are going into this war, there's two different
agendas that is at play, Israeli's agenda and the United
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States agenda or the way we look at the end
of this war. Israel was looking at the full destruction
of the military capabilities of Israel of Iran. Israel looking
for the destruction of the capabilities of Iran and also
a change of leadership over there. And they don't care
about how that is going to affect oil prices or
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market prices, any of that stuff. For the United States,
it is very important for us to keep things intact
in the Middle East because we have so much interest
over there. And you know, make no mistake, if there
is a humanitarian disaster is in Iran, it is not
they are not going to find refugion in Israel. They're
gonna come to the United States or Europe. If there
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is instability over there. It is our allies in Emirates
and in Saudi Arabia and Qatar that will affect us.
So for us, we cannot see a country that is
a failed nation. For Israel, they don't care about that.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Wow, well boom, there you go. Two different objectives here, Yes,
Czars is more of a business objective. We just they
want they want to keep the oil flowing, they want
to keep trade flowing. Affect us, and they can at
the same time try to keep those guys from blowing
a bunch of people up.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Absolutely, and we don't want to have any another immigration
crisis in the United States when we have a lot
of millions of Iranians coming to the United States to
find refugee because they cannot go anywhere else. We cannot
have the street of Hermus in a bloody strait where
you cannot have a flow of you know, economy through it.
So all of that stuff affect us because the stock
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market affects us, you know, stability in the world, energy flow,
all of that affects us big time. So our objective
is different from Israel, and I think this is the
biggest problem that actually led us to this point in
time that we are in right now.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
We'll get to your questions first, and then Mark, I
have a real I got a real banger of a
question for you. So get ready, get ready, all right,
let's talk. Ready, let's talk to Hayesus on news radio
eleven ten kfab Welcome, Hey.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Sus, how are you doing today? Thank you for a
great program. I'm gonna say you are a brother in
Jesus Christ and my correct sir, and then yep, okay,
And as we see the unrest, can you maybe explain
also to the audience and this is not just a
physical battle, but it's a spiritual battle as well between
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Christians and all of those that are not for Christians
and the faith of Christians. And we're seeing that, I
mean we saw that happen with a lot of the
Islamic extremists. That's why Egypt didn't let them in, let
the let the people from guys that go in because
they were extreme and they had issues. The people in Jordan,
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they have a history of going in and bringing out
the worst because they go in and they take over.
And we're seeing that happen here in the US in Dearborn, Michigan,
in a lot of these places in Texas, and you
hear a lot about how the I mean even in
New York City, how this mayor is very is a
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very extremist, and not only in Islam, but in socialism
and communism. Man, can you explain to you how this is?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Europe you're breaking up there, Sorry, sir, So this what's
the in your opinion? Mark the spiritual aspect of this.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
As a Christian and and a follow of just Christ,
I follow the biggest commandment is go make disciples of
all nations. You know, even though the muslims uh and
I was in that camp growing up, as you know,
I grew up as a Muslim, and I understand the
ideas of jihad and fighting for the cause of the
religion and try to spread the religion with the sword
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and and all of those things that I grew up with.
And Muhammad himself, you know, owning swords at the time
of his death, and he was a fighter and a
head of a state, and and and and he was
talking about prophecies of fighting and taking over nations. I
do see that this is more than just a regular
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war that is taking place. It's more spiritual war, absolutely, uh.
And it is also a war between two civilizations, and
it's a real war between the Western kind of ideas
and ideals of freedom and other things. That is really
we hold dear to our hearts and to our souls
and our lives. And with the people that actually fighting,
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and as you mentioned earlier, they would glorify death and
they actually part of their religious duties and festivities, especially
Shia Muslims, that they have to stand for the Hussein,
which is the grandson of Muhammad, and how he died
standing and they glorify his death and they are praying
that they will die as he did. But for me,
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as a Christian, the biggest thing is I'm not gonna
get involved. I'm not going to return the sword with
the sword. I'm gonna I'm gonna try to pray that
Iranians and all Muslims and all nations will get to
know Jesus to grace of forgiveness through Him on the cross.
And I am not going to advocate for any kind
of a holy war as a Christian whatsoever. We are
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not over here to spread Christianity through a sword whatsoever.
Jesus told us to go and spread the word of
God and baptize all nations in the name of the
Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. And this
is my prayer as a Christian. When we are facing threat,
we have to stop that threat, but we reserve very
quickly to peace so we can spread prosperity and grace
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of God.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well, you know, if you look at history, the United States,
World War One, World War II, go to Korea. I
don't even want to bring up Vietnam because that was insane.
But the United States and World War two with their
allies Russia and Britain conquered Germany. We didn't take over Germany,
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they rebuilt it.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
We rebuilt it after that, right, So.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That history he plays into exactly what you're saying. Even
the President himself has said, I'm trying to do this
for the Iranian grandchildren. You know, he says, I don't.
I don't want to go killing all these people. It's
the leadership he's going after. But you know, you bring up,
you brought up earlier the two different agendas. Yes, you
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know his agendas not to conquer Iran and just take
it over.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And he's he's also popped off with hey, we wiped
him out. We can do what we want, you know.
But that's him being a New Yorker.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Well, he is frustrated. Chris. You have to understand that
there was some strategic mistakes has been you know, done
in this war as we got started. Donald Trump actually
have been as a president, even in his first term,
have been faced by a lot of dares, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
They told him, if you ever dare to move the
embassy to Jerusalem that the world will go into fire.
And he said, no, I will do it. And he
did it and nothing happened. As a matter of fact,
it was peaceful and everything. Everybody praised them when they
told him, hey, we're gonna go and take Venezuela and
you know, go fight the Cortel or fight the people
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who are the narco kind of traders, and we're gonna
take them out and things are gonna go bad. And
he did, and he dared, and he said, no, I
will do it. He's a true American, a patriotic one.
He wants to go after the real problems. When they
told him about Madura Madua and then he took him
out out of his home before he even hided in
the closet. Uh, that was an unbelievable victory.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So when he has been in there multiple times and
was able to deliver, I think that kind of overshadowed
that this decision is different. I believe, truly believe that
the United States military and Trump Donald Trump as the
head of you know, of our nation and is the
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commander in chief. When they thought that taking out the
Ayatola Kommene, that this will end the regime immediately, that
things will fall apart immediately, he misunderstood the nature of
the Iranian people. He misunderstood, like you said earlier, the
Persian Yes, the Persians are not the Iranians today, there
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is a bigger mix of that. But the Iranian people actually,
people have to understand that they are very proud people
that they are ninety four million Iranians over there that
they feel the threat of other nations in a way.
They have been prosecuted by even other Muslims for the
last fourteen hundred years, so they have a fight for survival. Also,
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there was a misunderstanding about the different layers of the
Iranian system and regime that was built on survival. You know,
you look at the constitution that they put together. The
Iranian regime in nineteen seventy nine was built on two things.
The measure two things. Number one, how to survive as
a regime. Number two, how to expand into the Muslim world,
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into the sunny world. This is how their Nians have
been functioning. So ignoring all of that stuff actually led
to the frustration that we have today. Another big strategic
problem is we don't have mind sweepers that will be
able to clear up the strait of her moose. And
I told you that earlier today, Chris, and you're surprised
about that. You know that was a strategic mistake. And
I think, make no mistake. The NASAIS is capable of
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doing things. But we actually decommissioned most of our and
not if not all, of our mind sweepers that will
be able to take out the minds that their Unians
are putting in in the state of her Moovese. But
I do believe that actually the States military forces went
to this war thinking that it will never come to
the point of blocking the strait of her Moose and
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that the regime will fall apart immediately after we take
Atola Komene. Misunderstanding how the system is layered. Survival is
a bigger thing. They have, you know, the different layers
of more than set six people that will kind of
take any position that is vacant and so forth. So
this some strategic mistakes has been done, and misinformation that
have been given get us to this point of frustration.
(18:10):
Does not make Trump bad. It makes him getting wrong information,
because you are as good as a leader as the
advice that you get. And again it goes back to
the same point. I think there was two different objectives
going into this war. I love the State of Israel.
I love Trump, but I am trying to be objective
over here. We are in a point that is not
very it's not very envious of Trump, to be completely
(18:33):
honest with you, but he's trying to get out of it.
As a leader he can. He's doing his best, and
I trust in our military. If it comes to it,
we will deliver even if we you know, look at
how the United States military was able to go into
an operation to free the pilot and.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
The target yes to go and rescue best crew members.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
This is an unbelievable operation. Our military is capable. But
I think we have been went into the war with
a little bit of a strategic mistakes. But I think
we will correct them. And I believe this is why
the statements of Donald Trump and how he's making it,
I don't agree with them. I don't agree with them,
and I don't think Iranian will respond to them. He
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wants to take credit for him for if they caved in,
But make no mistake, their Onians are not caving in.
Their Onians are trying to work with the Pakistani today,
and we might hear in the next hour, Chris that
there is a kind of you know, a postponing of
everything and things will go down. Make no mistake, this
might happen. Trump might take advantage of that, but I
(19:36):
think we should understand that we came to this point
out of frustration, and hopefully I'm praying that God will
save the Nut States and we will get out of
it dignified and winners in a shape or form, for
the sake of the Nuted States and for the sake
of Iranian people.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Wow. Oh no, really, Oh you're Mike one. No, no,
I'm kidding. This is the insight that you're not going
to get anywhere else. It's not anti American, it's it's
pro people. That's what I'm That's how I see it.
I'm pro people. I want people to be happy. I
(20:13):
want people to live good lives.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And I am two things in one. I am pro
Jesus and I am pro American. So I can also
pridos two out of my heart, on my mind, on
my soul. And I believe that there is a lot
of great American Americans who live with the same kind
of values every single day.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, lots of them. Mark Christian is a fascinating man.
He is uh well, he grew up in Egypt. He
knows this region well, and he, to me, is the
perfect guy to talk to in a situation as we
find ourselves in as a great nation of incredibly good
looking people. Mark immigrated to the United States because they
(20:55):
said you're too good looking. You're gonna have to leave
Egypt and go and associate with people who were equally
as attractive as you. Isn't that your immigration story?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
My immigration story is I am blessed to be part
of this great nation. Can you imagine how beautiful and
amazing this country is. We aren't involved with this disastrous,
you know, war in the Middle East and at the
same time sending people to the moon to circle the moon.
What kind of country can do that, right?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
You know?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
And two weeks ago we are still breathing oscars instead
of breathing and dancing and everything. And you know, this
is a great country, absotitute, this is a great country.
All right, Let's get some of our fine listeners who've
been hanging on. Let's see where do I want to go?
All right, let's talk to no Where am I going? Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Steve, welcome the news radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
Hi guys, thanks for taking my call. I'm curious what
Mark thinks if the Iranians did go ahead and get
lukes produced, would they use them themselves mostly to threat
but would they also potentially put them in the hands
of terrorists to do the work that they always seem
(22:08):
to have a history of supporting I'll get out of
your way and let you guys talk about it, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Iran getting nuclear weapons is something that we should do
whatever it takes to stop them from having. And I
don't believe the strikes is doing that, but you know what,
I will take it for now. But to answer your question,
if their Onean's got nuclear weapons is going to be
a game changer in the Middle East, and definitely they're
(22:35):
going to start using them as a power, you know,
position to change the dynamics of the Middle East and
to be head and head to head with the state
of Israel. And there is a lot of going to
be compromise and things changing because of that. So for
multiple reasons, I don't think i Onians should get nuclear weapons.
Are they going to put it in the hands of
tourists and so forth. Nobody can predict what this regime
(22:58):
will do. This regime is Rouge regime. They are Shia
Muslims who have been acting like they are being prosecuted,
which is the truth, and so you never can to
predict what kind of mentality. You have to keep in mind,
this is not the majority of Muslims. They are fifteen
percent of the Muslims only, and they are Shia Muslims,
(23:20):
and they are prosecuted by the rest of the Muslims
for fourteen hundred years, and they feel like they are
you know, under threat all the time. And because of
all of that, they feel like they have to fight
whatever it takes to be survivals so they can create
you know, some kind of you know, instability in the region.
(23:41):
Absolutely what they would try to take out the Middle
East and the rest of the golf countries. This is
part of their constitution. As a matter of fact, it's
not far fetched. Part of their constitution is two things
I mentioned earlier. I'm going to repeat them very quickly.
Survival from any attacks from within or from outside. They
build the regime on that end of narrative. And the
(24:01):
other thing is expansion into the Middle East, expansion into
the Gulferia, expansion into all the way to Saudi Arabia,
even taking over Egypt. Building a Shia Islamic dynasty that
has been buried in history, the one that is reacted.
This is their agenda. What they're gonna do with the
nuclear weapons. It's never good and they should never have it.
But how to deal with it. This is the this
(24:23):
is the question that we have on the table four O.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Two five, five, eight, eleven ten on the Chris Bakers Show.
Let's talk to John. You're on news radio eleven t
in KFAB with doctor Mark Christian. John.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Hey, Mark, you know me as as John and Rachel.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Awesome? Hi John?
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Are you good? Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Now? You you've told me that you that Muslims in
general do not have to tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Absolutely? The tikiya, which is one of the you know,
the methods in Islam to cover up and the lying
has to be for the purpose of furthering the cause
of Islam or protecting a Muslim life, which is kind
of a huge, big, kind of an area and very shady.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Well, now, did the regime in Iran kill like thirty
five thousand of their own this year for demonstrating?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
John? I am actually I like complete honesty, and I'm
going to tell you this. Nobody knows exactly how many
people have been killed in the protest in the last protest.
Some people say there are three thousands, some people say
they are forty six thousand. We don't have any kind
of transparency either from the regime or from the people
on the ground. So, yes, the Ranian gen killed people,
(25:55):
killed those who are protesting and calling them enemies and
calling them asians of foreign country, and they're calling them
working with the Israelis and working with the United States,
and for that purpose they killed them. We don't know
exactly the numbers. It doesn't matter one person or forty
six or fifty thousand. A regime is ready to kill
their own people. Is not a regime that's supposed to
be in staying in power, period. But how can we
(26:17):
do it? This is the question.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
We have to do it with objectives of the United
States and the future of the United States in mind,
and you have to keep understanding how to deal with
the problems in a way that will never hurt any
American or hurt America in the future financially or militarily.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Mark Christian is our guest here on the Chrispaker Program.
So yesterday in the news the cost team or however
you say, it's Solomony custom Sole Mooney. Yes, they gave
his niece and other little smoke show that is related
to him. They gave him the boot, yes, out of
(26:56):
Los Angeles. And I just wonder how many of these
guys calling the shots over there are even actually over
there in your opinion.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, custom solomoney has been killed by the United States
of America during during Trump the first administration, he called
this and this is another dating thing, when Trump called, hey,
we're going to kill customs sala money things, hell will
break loose, and he did it and nothing happened. So
they give him the kind of the narrative to do
what he was doing today. But you know, I'm going
to tell you something, Chris, as a matter of fact,
(27:24):
that story is not by kicking the custom solo many
relatives out of the United States, but actually the videos
of how his relatives were living in the United States,
the helicopters, the extravaganza, the living large and no hi job,
no Islamic traditions, nothing and all of it is about
drinking and having fun. That was actually more detrimental to
(27:46):
the regime over there more than Trump statements today. This
has created a problem in your own more than anything else,
because the people on the ground all of a sudden
have seen the hypocrisy of custom sol money because actually
they look him, They have a they have a they
have a festive for him right now, So all of
a sudden, his redative is living this this way. That
(28:07):
was detrimental to the image of the regime more than
any message that Trump did. I know Trump loves to
be you know, I hope he's not hitting me right
now because I have to tell him his messages are awesome, crazy,
you know, he's I love his six back and I
would love to have his head. He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
But you know what amazing amazing? Well, but you know,
if you look at history, you had uh when when
Israel was reckon Gaza, you would hear that the so
called Palestinian authorities and Cutter, right, these guys are billionaires,
they're in Cutter They're not They're not facing any of
(28:45):
the things. And this has been a big beef for
me for many years. Era Fat was a rip off.
It just it was sotle an untold amount of money. Absolutely,
So that's why I have to go that states by
the way, Yeah, and I have to ask the question
we're gonna go to break and he answered on the
way back, but how many? How many people or even
I've also heard that the new Ayatola is a huge
(29:09):
real estate owner in the UK. He owns some of
the finest homes uh and some of the nicest parts
of the UK. That's what I've read about it.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I'm going to tell you a rumor that is very strong. Actually,
some people think that he's actually right now is in
u K.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
That's what I think too.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yes, But you ask me the question about hypocrisy and Islam. Yeah,
are you serious about that question? I think I think
that started by the inception of Islam by the leaders
of Islam from the very beginning. You know, you're talking
about hypocrisy and Islamic leadership and and all of that
stuff that's that's entrenched in the religion.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Wow about that.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
I'm sorry, I'm gone.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I up with it.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
I grew up with a lot of leaders I grew up.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
The mom of Alazzo Universities was a friend of my father.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
I went to him.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
As a matter of fact, there was statements came out.
You know, my dad was asking why you're doing this?
You know you're not supposed to do that, and he said,
are you judging me? Don't don't see that in public.
That was actually because I was in that circle and
hypocrisy is part of the secret.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Of the circle. Oh wow. Well, you know what you
come to think of it, Maybe that could be where
Washington makes a deal. Hey, look, we're a bunch of
hypocrites too. Really, Oh okay, now we can talk.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Are you going to talk about the Saudist leaders and
Islamic leaders over there?
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I went to parties in Mecca. I was this religious
kid growing up, and I was taking everything serious, you know,
and I have to follow everything. And then after we
finished in Mecca, which is the holiest places of his
life through the pebbles, yes, and then I went to
a party, and I have seen things I've never imagined
I will see. It was like a King Kardashian nowadays
in Mecca, in the holiest place people drinking. All of
(30:50):
the hypocrisy is part of the religion and institution of
Islam from top down everywhere.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
So you think there could possibly be a light at
the end of the time all through Pakistan today.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I true believe that we might not have to, you know,
wipe a civilization of the map, hopefully, and I'm hoping
that we will come to some kind of an agreement
so America will come out of this as an exit
tramp with dignity and actually a future plan that because
I believe that actually the way that Iran can change
(31:24):
is by gradually, but not not like very slow gradually
changing the culture over there. I think we created so
much chaos over there and hurt and weakness of the
regime that things start kind of moving forward in the
right direction very quickly. I don't think this kind of
a dogma of the Iranian regime and the inclused and
(31:46):
that has been exposed no matter what. Yes, they're holding
to their life. They are surviving, but I don't think
for long.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So a lot of energy people that I've known over
the years have said that it's really hard to actually
make deals there because people will change their mind the
very next stay and they lie about it too. Yeah.
So if Iran in the US come to an agreement,
look we'll open the straight of horror moves and you'll
quit blowing everybody up and we'll move on with our lives.
(32:14):
If that regime stays in power, do you think something
like that could last or will eventually, we'll be right
back where we started.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
You are missing a bigger player in all of this, actually,
which is China. Okay, it's not about the regime keeping
the world and all of that stuff. The Chinese are
the biggest benefactory of the whole Iranian regime. You have
to keep in mind that the Chinese are dependent on
the oil that comes almost free from Iran. Ninety percent
(32:44):
of the oil cris ninety percent of Iranian oil goes
to China and they are getting it for almost free
because they put four hundred billion dollars of investment in
infrastructure over there, and they are agained of trying to
milk the cow until the end, and they were using
you know, venezuela as well. But then we are able
to take venezuela away from their oneans, so from the Chinese.
(33:07):
So now the Chinese is going to be trying to
invest for them. The Strait of Rumuz is important as well,
So you are dealing with behind the same power, which
is like you know, so many people look at that
as end of times kind of joining forces between Yagog
and Magog, which is the Chinese and the Iranians, but
in reality they're working with each other. And I think
one of the biggest objectives of Donald Trump and the
(33:29):
noted States is to take control of the of the
Hogue Island where most of the oil is going. So
we can stop this influx of oil to the Chinese.
This is the key that people need to understand. You
know that island. If then States were able to to
control that, then we control the Iranian oil. Then we
can stop the influx of oil to the Chinese. And
that will make it a fair game between the Nut
(33:50):
States and China when it comes to military, when it
comes to economy, when it comes to financial imagine China
or any kind of business having free energy for for years.
This is not fair when you're dealing with in a
financial way. So stopping that would be great things. So
this is one of the things of objectives, big objectives
of n States and Donald Trump to stop that influx.
(34:11):
Can we trust their Oneans to follow through? I don't
think so. Okay, their Onians are not to be trusted,
and they're gonna play games, They're gonna lie, they're gonna
try to buy time as much as they can. The
best thing is to do is to try to find
and in with the Iranian people. We're gonna try to
change Iran from within over time and quickly and fast.
The youth is dying for freedom, for education, for internet,
(34:36):
for all out of things. Let us kind of bank
on this youth in they are twenty five to forty
percent of their Unian people who are dying to join
the civilization that we live in. And those are the
people if we play with them, they're gonna change their
heart and mind and they will change the country froom
with them very quickly.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
And do you think, real quick, do you think that
the Chinese can rain in the Iraanian regime?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Well, actually, the Iranians threat today was hey, if things
go south for us, and this said this publicly, our
allies will come to our aid. And some people say
what kind of allies they are? And I think the Chinese.
So yes, the Chinese will do whatever it takes. But
the Chinese have a very big, important kind of a strategy.
(35:22):
Did you not want to get involved in a military
conflict at any cost except if it is absolutely necessary.
You have to keep in mind the Chinese. And this
is something that people need to understand. The Chinese has
a lot of financial gain and financial control over the
world without firing one bullet. And this is the agenda.
This is what they're fighting for, and this is the
real enemy of the United States of America. The Chinese,
(35:45):
you know, agenda versus the United States, freedom versus you know, communists, communists,
everything else.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Back all right, Mark Christian, doctor, Mark Christian, God bless you.
That was fantastic having you in today.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Thank you very much for having me.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I hope, I hope we break news later today and
then we'll be able to say, yeah, we had it first.
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