April 1, 2026 • 26 mins
A new defensive end is commited to Nebraska. This makes 5 different schools in 5 years. Is this good or bad for college sports? and is he a good teammate?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, I want to talk. I want to get
into this. I want to talk a little sports, Okay.
And the reason I want to talk a little bit
of sports is because they just had a big meeting
in Washington, DC about NIL, right, and I know that
there are a lot of people are well, they're they're
(00:21):
kind of torn on the NIL issue right paying college athletes.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And there is a story.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
In the Omaha World Herald today about a Husker rush end.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
All Right. His name is Anthony Jones.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And I want to be very clear from the moment
we start this, I'm not trying to attack Anthony Jones.
But the story though, brings I think a good conversation
to the radio. Okay, So Anthony Jones, who's uh, he's giant.
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He's six five to sixty five, little light, don't you think?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, I mean that's what I look like. So what
do you think? Do you think I look like at all? Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Anyway, So he's sixty five, two hundred and sixty five
pounds and he is a rush end. And the reason
I'm bringing it up is because he's been on five
or he's been on a different football team every year
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because of the transfer portal. Right, So let's see, he
started out he was in Oregon, and then he left Oregon.
He went to Indiana, and then he left Indiana, so
he went to Michigan State, and then he left Michigan
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State and he went to use and then he left
UCLA and now he's here in Nebraska. So part of
the story, it turns out, is that it says he
is the breadwinner of his family. And if you and
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when you as you read the story, it's quite apparent
that he's chasing the money. So I want to ask you,
is this is this the good part of the transfer
portal or the NIL or is this an example of
why it's bad? Because in the story it says that
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he is the only breadwinner of the family, him his
lovely wife, his mom, and his younger brother. So he's
the only breadwinner. He's the guy. He is totaling the note,
as they say. And that's where I think the transfer
portal and NIL works. It gives people a nice income boost,
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or at least it appears. I don't know what he's getting.
I have no earthly idea, but you're on five different
teams in five years, So that makes me wonder, well,
what kind of teammate is this guy, And I'm not
really trying to talk about him in particular. I think
his story brings to light what some people like and
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what they don't like about the transfer portal and the
NIL agreement where college athletes can be paid and they
can make money. I've always been in support of college
athletes being paid, but what I'm not in support of
is people going from team to team to team to
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team every year. And not everybody does it this way,
but they could, right, So, I'm just curious what people
think is this. Is this an example of why NIL
and paying these athletes is a good thing or is
it an example of why it might be a bad thing?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And again, not trying to attack Anthony Jones. I'm talking
about a system four O two five, five eleven ten
is our phone number. You can hit us with an email,
Chris at kfab dot com. I hope this guy is
a monster rush in for Nebraska, and I hope that
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after he finishes up his year here, I hope he's
drafted into the NFL and all of his dreams come true.
I hope the best. But some people say that NIL
is ruining college sports. Well, I like seeing these young
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athletes get paid, because let's just be honest.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Not all of these athletes go on to pro ball.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And when I say pro ball, I'm talking NFL. Now,
obviously there's other areas of pro ball. There's that summer league,
there's the arena leagues, and all these other places where
guys can go play and get paid. But five teams
in five years. And in the article, by the way,
it points out that there were no disciplinary problems, nothing.
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There's not a bad story about this guy anywhere. So
I'm not really talking about him. I'm using his story
to talk about nil and the transfer portal, which I
don't like the transfer portal. I don't like the fact
that a guy could just transfer every year. I just
don't think it's right. I don't think it's good for fans,
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and I don't think it's good for teams. But at
the same time, hey, you know, go where the money is, right.
So anyway, four, two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten on
the Chris Baker program, already here we go, some moonbat
has already started. Chris, why don't you talk about the
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fact that athletics is a modern day slave industry.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
That is so it's like the dumbest and you know what,
here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna award that email
the dumbest take of the day. Okay, so you just
won the dumbest take of the day. Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
God.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
All right, let's go to some phone call. Well, what
what am I doing?
Speaker 5 (06:44):
All Right?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I got time for some phone calls. Let's talk to Joe.
You're on news radio eleven ten kfab Joe.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Hello, I'm all for the transfer portal and I'm all
for paying them. It's just it's just capitalism, right, I'm
a capitalist.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
So the teams that put together winning teams are gonna
still get players and they're gonna pay him.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
It's bad for.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Nebraska because number one.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
The kids that.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
There's nobody alive playing college sports today that remembers nineteen
eighty five. So nobody cares. Why Nebraska's gonna have to
catch lightning in a bottle to ever be relevant again.
The basketball team the basketball lightning in a bottle. Yeah,
I won't be able to repeat it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh, I'm all for it. Okay, it's just capitalism, all right.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Appreciate the call. Good to hear from you, Joe. Boy
Joe get in the Dale Carnegie Course or something like that.
Don't never catch lightning in a bottle. I know, I
know Husker fans it, I get it, I totally get it.
But I am confident that they will be back. All right, Well,
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let's talk to Jeff real quick. Hello Jeff, you're on
the Chris Bakers Show.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Welcome.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Totally agree with the chances for portal with exception that
need to respect the contract they get into it when
they sign a deal.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
With the college.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
But I also believe there should be a cap on
what they can on what they can bring in. Yes,
because athletics isn't supposed to be the main reason you
go to college to begin with. It's education reasons and
they're gaining that education on a full ride or whatever.
So I think there needs to be a cap on
there with the focus of education. Most of these guys
aren't going to make it to the NFL, so they
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need to have that education first. Yeah, athletic second. So
I'll just speak on that.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, Well, I appreciate that, sir. Good to hear from you. Well,
I don'll say I don't like putting a cap on anything.
I mean I mean, think about it. You're an eighteen
year old freshman, and Warren Buffett says, I think you
could be the greatest football player in the history of
this university. Here's a billion dollars. Would you like to
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come here? Yeah, I'm sorry, we have to put a
cap on that. You're not allowed to have the billion.
You're only gonna have to take a million. See, a
million doesn't really sound like that much money, now, does it.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It was a billion, it's not a million.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
We're talking about an interesting story about a guy just
transferred to Nebraska, big football player, big rush end. They
need one so that all works out. But this is
his fifth team in five years, all right, So not
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necessarily talking about this player in particular, but I am
asking about how guys can transfer every year from team
to team to team to team. And is that a
good thing about NIL and the transfer portal? Or is
that a bad thing when it comes to NIL and
the transfer portal? Peyton, Now you're a college athlete, tell me,
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how do you see this tremendous conversational topic.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, it's very interesting, and we've had this a lot
recently too, with just as much it is going on,
you know, We talked about it with Dylan Ryola a
little bit earlier. A few weeks ago. I went to
a community college for two years, and I transferred to
another school, albeit after I had gotten a degree first
and foremost. I don't know how this kid can manage
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moving to all these different places year year. That's crazy.
I wouldn't want to do that. Yeah, but if I'm
getting paid a lot of money, I can make it work.
I don't got to worry about where I'm staying.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'll battle through.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I do not like all this transferring. People and players
can get paid as much as they want.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
No cap.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You are worth what you are worth. Yeah, that's your value.
But I do not like this transferring. I'm not a
fan of it. I don't like it. And you used
to have to sit out a year, right that was
the old days. See, that was the old fart days,
right there, Peyton, that's those are old. So now, racist,
hateful kids are playing a fall football season, and you
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know what, as soon as this season's over, I'm done.
I'm gonna go to this school and then they're at
that new school by the time springball starts. Yeah, I
don't like it. I don't like it you should too quick.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, I can only say that or the way I
look at it is what kind of teammate are you?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And when you read when you read this story, uh,
he uh played for Oregon and they had a very
very good season, and he transfers. Then he played for Indiana.
They sucked, so he transfers. Then he goes to Michigan State,
they sucked, and then he transferred to UCLA and then
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they sucked. And now he's here at Nebraska. So what
kind of teammate is that? Like the guy that's going
to be You know, we always hear this, we're going
to war, We're in the trenches together. I got my
teammates and I'm good. Right, it doesn't sound like you know,
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I don't know. I mean, I would imagine everybody gets
along great. And again I want to stress in this
case of Anthony Jones, no disciplinary problems. He didn't, he
wasn't a bad person. Everybody likes the guy and that's great,
But I mean, five teams in five years.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
When you do that so much, you lose the passion
and the emotion for that school. You know, I think
about you going to school for a few years. You
learn about everybody in the establishment, everybody that's involved. It
means more. Right, Okay, you've been at five schools in
five years. What does it mean to you to win
a game for that university that's on your chest? Does
winning a game for Nebraska really mean anything other than
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just being a football game? Because it should?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
All Right, here we go, Chris.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It's by the way, coming into the Zonkers custom woods
inbox with the velvet lining. Dear Chris, it sounds to
me that a player that's playing five teams five years
is not a teammate, that is an individual doing what's
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best for him, which I don't have a problem with
guys doing what's best for them. But at the same time,
you got the team factor. All right, let's go back
to the phones. Four two, five, eight, eleven ten Ron.
You're on news radio eleven ten kfab Hello.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
So, yeah, I think it's just the NIL is taking
away loyalty. There's no loyal like you said, to any team,
and I think they should have to set out a
year if they transfer, and you know, I guess that's
my feelings.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So what it takes that bonding away?
Speaker 9 (14:12):
Yes, there's no bonding. There's no there's nothing for loyalty.
It's just they're out for the money. And I think
they're supposed to be going to college for their education first,
then they can play sports, you know, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I appreciate the call there Ron four two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten. It does say in the article how this
individual was very impressed with coach Rule because Coach Rule
talked about getting his degree and was putting a lot
of emphasis on this player getting his degree. And I
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think that's great. I love that about Nebraska because I
think pretty much every coach I've seen come through here
they were they were very very focused on these guys
getting their degrees. And so I think that's. Uh, I
think that's a good thing. That's what I'm saying. I'm
Chris Baker. I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
How's that the education is really important and the kids
may not understand it in the moment, but while you're
there spending four years of your life or two years,
you might as well get a degree. It's only better
for it. Yeah, while you're at it, While you're at it,
while you're at.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It, you know, may want to get a degree, go
to some good parties, get a degree. Oh, yeah, and
play some ball you.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Like Carson Beckin takes seven years to get it, but
that's okay because you got it, Cause you got it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I have a friend that went to college and he
told me it took him almost eight years to get
his degree because he was having too much fun.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
That's that's some determination, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It's a Chris Baker program four two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten. It says Anthony Jones is living in his
seventh state, third time zone. Really well written article. He's
learned half a dozen defensive schemes and the names of
hundreds of teammates, so he knows everybody. But back to
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the original question is five teams in five years? Does
that show you what's wrong with nil? Or does that
show you what's right withinil?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
All right?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It is the Chris Baker radio program here on news
radio eleven ten kfab all right, more emails. People say
they don't like they don't like it. The players can
leave every year without some type of penalty, and that
there's no loyalty. So if you put stipulations on players,
shouldn't you put stipulations on coaches who job hop Oh well,
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that's kind of the industry. Right. In fact, I was
talking to my wife about this story this morning and
she said, wow, it kind of sounds like your radio career,
and that was a cheap shot. I never left year
after year. So my crazy wild wife and her peaky
blinders man peaky blinders all last night, just peaky blinders,
(17:08):
peaky blinders with the cigarettes. And so now I'm trying
to find out what organic cigarettes are made of.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
In case you don't notice, I just started talking about
something else totally different. So we're in a little sports
talk here on the Chris Bakers Show. Got a brand
spanking new rush end at Nebraska and he's played for
five teams in five years. Some would say this is
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an example of how nil is crushing college sports. Others
would say that, no, this shows that these guys get
to better their situation. They get in the In the
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case of this player, he's the he's the breadwinner for
the family, so he's able to take care of his family.
Some people are not some people don't like it, some
people do. All I know is okay. All right, here's
Andrew on the Chris Bakers Show. Hello Andrew, Hi, Hey
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you guys doing great, sir.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Thanks for asking.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
So I wanted to provide my perspective as somebody who
has never been an athlete, but somebody who actually did
get paid to go to school.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Should make you.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Was in the stem field genetics mostly, and so when
I got into grad school being my masters and my
pH d, so most of my PhD not my masters,
but I was actually paid. My tuition was paid for,
and I was paid a stipend to go and teach.
So that does happen in academics quite a bit, especially
with the professors. What I think that they need to
clarify is like the language on what these players are,
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because I know that there's a lot of controversies, like
you know, the coaches aren't allowed or the university isn't allowed,
and I think there was even a law to with
the former Duke quarterback he got to for his NIAH degree.
So I think they seem to clarify the language and
either you know, make it like a work contract more specific,
or even make like the the university some sort of
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facilitator of not the money, but like you know, they
house and train the player and all that other stuff,
so that if you have like a contractual obligation to
the university, you can break that and you need to
pay a thing like with like what I did in
my career. You know, you can get grants through like
the National Institute of Health and everything else. And when
I worked on my PhD stuff, we actually got like
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a multimillion dollar grant through the NIH. And one of
the things they don't one of the things they don't
tell you when you get grants like that is yes,
you get x amount, and ours was multimillion. So we
got that money. As a lab. The university also gets
a share of that money, of some money that you
don't put on as being the facilitator, because they provide
the facilities, they provide the electricity, they provide some of
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the women of common use. So I mean it will
take some work, but I think like they could work
that out for the players. And I mean, yeah, there
are people in the STEM field who like, you know,
if you're a major professor, you accepts another job and
you're a grad student or a postdoc, it's not uncommon
for those people to pick up and leave. Like one
of my good friends, his professor got a job at Tulane,
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and yeah, the guy like picked up the move at
the end of the year and moved moved to Louisiana
and did that. So you know, it's not as common
as the players thing, but it's really not that unheard of.
I mean, there is a way, and I mean I
personally have no problem with like, you know, getting what
you're owned, and you know, with regard to this particular player,
I mean, you know, as long as Nebraska kind of
knows he's a mercenary going in and that's no, no
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like impuning on his character. But it's like, yeah, he's
coming in just for this one year and it's a
risk and reward thing. It's not like any of that's
just from the hiring a tempted play. But I mean,
you know, you can you can make the argument about
the education. Well, I mean there's lots of people who
go going to football and never trying to get an education,
and that's the way. It's a way for years. It's
just they want the opportunity to play football, right, that's
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never really going to change.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, all right, well, thank you very much. It's great
to have you listening to the show, so appreciate it.
All right, four, two, five, eight, eleven, ten. Guys, look
at that that guy that guy's big scientist guy PhD. Guy,
what the hell's you doing listening to this show? I'm kidding,
I'm kidding. All right, we got dueling. Jeff's Jeff number one.
(21:28):
You're on the Chris Baker Program. Hello Jeff, Hey.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Chris, how you doing great?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Hey? Something similar to this the nil slash transfer portal.
I'm a fan of Kentucky basketball, and years ago when
John Calipari was still the coach at Kentucky, he introduced
and promoted basically called the one and done system where
he brought in four and five star players for basketball,
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kept them basically one year, and then they transferred it
out and went to the NBA draft. So we were
always going through players, very seldom with a guy play
for two years. So we've seen a player would come
in for one year with really no desire to play
for the team, you know, the University of Kentucky. Basically,
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he was just there using us as a stepping stone
to move to the NBA, which is fine, but it
definitely destroys your program and it limits your ability to
win games because these guys never messages the team. They
come in, they use you for one year, and they're gone.
And it's definitely it hurt. It hurt our basketball program. Wow,
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we're definitely we're not the team we used to be
twenty years ago at all. So it's it's like it's
like to transfer portal. But basically we were just a
stepping stone into the NBA. It's not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So back to my original question, is this the Is
this an example of hynil is good or YNI might
be bad just out of curiosity.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
It's good for the individual, but it's bad for the team.
And now John Calipari is no longer the coach at Kentucky.
He's at Arkansas and he's speaking out against the transferred
portal because he sees how it's hurting college basketball.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
All right, thanks for the call, Jeff. Good to hear
from you. Now let's see if Jeff two is better
than Jeff one.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
What do you think about that, Jeff two?
Speaker 7 (23:31):
College football is a job.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
It's work.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
And I played three years in high school on a
championship team and never got anything but a letter. And
then you go to college and it was a full
time job. Sometimes they got up in the morning, they
could barely move. They worked off season in waits, running conditioning.
There was never any let up. And to say that,
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have anybody call in that hasn't played football before at
any level, high school, college, junior league. They can't understand
how much of a job college football is. It's a job.
And if they want to set up rules and have contracts,
that's fine. But you can't say you can't transfer, say
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you get a bad coach, say you have a bad team.
There's all kinds of factors. It's got to be as
free enterprise as it possibly can be. And I'm all
for contracts better. Yet, if you score a touchdown you
get one thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars, if you
run over one hundred yards in the game or make
so many tackles, there's bonuses. The coaches are on bonuses.
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Why not have the players Ernie. Ernie Chambers was right
twenty five years ago when he said you need to
have paid players because they're paid one way or they're
they're the scholarships or cars, and now it's dollars and
that's what you need to do.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Let's be honest, sir.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You've already made the point that defeat or any Chambers
because you said playing football is a job.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
That's a long way to go for a bad joke.
All Right, Thanks Jeff. It's great to hear from you.
I really appreciate it. Yeah, it is a job. And
if you think about it, and when you read in
this article in the Omaha World Herald, one of the
things that has talked about is how these players are
constantly doing something. They're either lifting, they have diet programs,
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they have exercise programs, and they have you know, they
have levels that they have to reach. In other words,
they're held accountable for the lifting the weights they're supposed
to lift, eat the food they're supposed to eat, and
show up for whatever practice or whatever nonsense is going on.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I understand that some players they can't really you know,
like that first Jeff said, knowing players that couldn't move, well,
maybe they shouldn't have gone to that party.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
All right, I'm sorry. That was another bad another one.
All right, I want to talk. I want to get
into this. I want to talk a little sports, Okay.
And the reason I want to talk a little bit
of sports is because they just had a big meeting
in Washington, DC about NIL, right, and I know that
there are a lot of people are well, they're they're
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kind of torn on the NIL issue right paying college athletes.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And there is a story.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
In the Omaha World Herald today about a Husker rush end.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
All Right. His name is Anthony Jones.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
And I want to be very clear from the moment
we start this, I'm not trying to attack Anthony Jones.
But the story though, brings I think a good conversation
to the radio. Okay, So Anthony Jones, who's uh, he's giant.
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He's six five to sixty five, little light, don't you think?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Well, I mean that's what I look like. So what
do you think? Do you think I look like at all? Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Anyway, So he's sixty five, two hundred and sixty five
pounds and he is a rush end. And the reason
I'm bringing it up is because he's been on five
or he's been on a different football team every year
(01:36):
because of the transfer portal. Right, So let's see, he
started out he was in Oregon, and then he left Oregon.
He went to Indiana, and then he left Indiana, so
he went to Michigan State, and then he left Michigan
(01:58):
State and he went to use and then he left
UCLA and now he's here in Nebraska. So part of
the story, it turns out, is that it says he
is the breadwinner of his family. And if you and
(02:19):
when you as you read the story, it's quite apparent
that he's chasing the money. So I want to ask you,
is this is this the good part of the transfer
portal or the NIL or is this an example of
why it's bad? Because in the story it says that
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he is the only breadwinner of the family, him his
lovely wife, his mom, and his younger brother. So he's
the only breadwinner. He's the guy. He is totaling the note,
as they say. And that's where I think the transfer
portal and NIL works. It gives people a nice income boost,
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or at least it appears. I don't know what he's getting.
I have no earthly idea, but you're on five different
teams in five years, So that makes me wonder, well,
what kind of teammate is this guy, And I'm not
really trying to talk about him in particular. I think
his story brings to light what some people like and
(03:31):
what they don't like about the transfer portal and the
NIL agreement where college athletes can be paid and they
can make money. I've always been in support of college
athletes being paid, but what I'm not in support of
is people going from team to team to team to
(03:56):
team every year. And not everybody does it this way,
but they could, right, So, I'm just curious what people
think is this. Is this an example of why NIL
and paying these athletes is a good thing or is
it an example of why it might be a bad thing?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And again, not trying to attack Anthony Jones. I'm talking
about a system four O two five, five eleven ten
is our phone number. You can hit us with an email,
Chris at kfab dot com. I hope this guy is
a monster rush in for Nebraska, and I hope that
(04:39):
after he finishes up his year here, I hope he's
drafted into the NFL and all of his dreams come true.
I hope the best. But some people say that NIL
is ruining college sports. Well, I like seeing these young
(05:00):
athletes get paid, because let's just be honest.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Not all of these athletes go on to pro ball.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
And when I say pro ball, I'm talking NFL. Now,
obviously there's other areas of pro ball. There's that summer league,
there's the arena leagues, and all these other places where
guys can go play and get paid. But five teams
in five years. And in the article, by the way,
it points out that there were no disciplinary problems, nothing.
(05:34):
There's not a bad story about this guy anywhere. So
I'm not really talking about him. I'm using his story
to talk about nil and the transfer portal, which I
don't like the transfer portal. I don't like the fact
that a guy could just transfer every year. I just
don't think it's right. I don't think it's good for fans,
(05:54):
and I don't think it's good for teams. But at
the same time, hey, you know, go where the money is, right.
So anyway, four, two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten on
the Chris Baker program, already here we go, some moonbat
has already started. Chris, why don't you talk about the
(06:16):
fact that athletics is a modern day slave industry.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
That is so it's like the dumbest and you know what,
here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna award that email
the dumbest take of the day. Okay, so you just
won the dumbest take of the day. Congratulations.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
God.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
All right, let's go to some phone call. Well, what
what am I doing?
Speaker 5 (06:44):
All Right?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I got time for some phone calls. Let's talk to Joe.
You're on news radio eleven ten kfab Joe.
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Hello, I'm all for the transfer portal and I'm all
for paying them. It's just it's just capitalism, right, I'm
a capitalist.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
So the teams that put together winning teams are gonna
still get players and they're gonna pay him.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
It's bad for.
Speaker 6 (07:11):
Nebraska because number one.
Speaker 7 (07:14):
The kids that.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
There's nobody alive playing college sports today that remembers nineteen
eighty five. So nobody cares. Why Nebraska's gonna have to
catch lightning in a bottle to ever be relevant again.
The basketball team the basketball lightning in a bottle. Yeah,
I won't be able to repeat it.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Oh, I'm all for it. Okay, it's just capitalism, all right.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Appreciate the call. Good to hear from you, Joe. Boy
Joe get in the Dale Carnegie Course or something like that.
Don't never catch lightning in a bottle. I know, I
know Husker fans it, I get it, I totally get it.
But I am confident that they will be back. All right, Well,
(08:02):
let's talk to Jeff real quick. Hello Jeff, you're on
the Chris Bakers Show.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Welcome.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Well, yeah, I.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Totally agree with the chances for portal with exception that
need to respect the contract they get into it when
they sign a deal.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
With the college.
Speaker 8 (08:18):
But I also believe there should be a cap on
what they can on what they can bring in. Yes,
because athletics isn't supposed to be the main reason you
go to college to begin with. It's education reasons and
they're gaining that education on a full ride or whatever.
So I think there needs to be a cap on
there with the focus of education. Most of these guys
aren't going to make it to the NFL, so they
(08:38):
need to have that education first. Yeah, athletic second. So
I'll just speak on that.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, Well, I appreciate that, sir. Good to hear from you. Well,
I don'll say I don't like putting a cap on anything.
I mean I mean, think about it. You're an eighteen
year old freshman, and Warren Buffett says, I think you
could be the greatest football player in the history of
this university. Here's a billion dollars. Would you like to
(09:04):
come here? Yeah, I'm sorry, we have to put a
cap on that. You're not allowed to have the billion.
You're only gonna have to take a million. See, a
million doesn't really sound like that much money, now, does it.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
It was a billion, it's not a million.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
We're talking about an interesting story about a guy just
transferred to Nebraska, big football player, big rush end. They
need one so that all works out. But this is
his fifth team in five years, all right, So not
(09:43):
necessarily talking about this player in particular, but I am
asking about how guys can transfer every year from team
to team to team to team. And is that a
good thing about NIL and the transfer portal? Or is
that a bad thing when it comes to NIL and
the transfer portal? Peyton, Now you're a college athlete, tell me,
(10:07):
how do you see this tremendous conversational topic.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, it's very interesting, and we've had this a lot
recently too, with just as much it is going on,
you know, We talked about it with Dylan Ryola a
little bit earlier. A few weeks ago. I went to
a community college for two years, and I transferred to
another school, albeit after I had gotten a degree first
and foremost. I don't know how this kid can manage
(10:34):
moving to all these different places year year. That's crazy.
I wouldn't want to do that. Yeah, but if I'm
getting paid a lot of money, I can make it work.
I don't got to worry about where I'm staying.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'll battle through.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I do not like all this transferring. People and players
can get paid as much as they want.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
No cap.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You are worth what you are worth. Yeah, that's your value.
But I do not like this transferring. I'm not a
fan of it. I don't like it. And you used
to have to sit out a year, right that was
the old days. See, that was the old fart days,
right there, Peyton, that's those are old. So now, racist,
hateful kids are playing a fall football season, and you
(11:19):
know what, as soon as this season's over, I'm done.
I'm gonna go to this school and then they're at
that new school by the time springball starts. Yeah, I
don't like it. I don't like it you should too quick.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Well, I can only say that or the way I
look at it is what kind of teammate are you?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And when you read when you read this story, uh,
he uh played for Oregon and they had a very
very good season, and he transfers. Then he played for Indiana.
They sucked, so he transfers. Then he goes to Michigan State,
they sucked, and then he transferred to UCLA and then
(12:01):
they sucked. And now he's here at Nebraska. So what
kind of teammate is that? Like the guy that's going
to be You know, we always hear this, we're going
to war, We're in the trenches together. I got my
teammates and I'm good. Right, it doesn't sound like you know,
(12:23):
I don't know. I mean, I would imagine everybody gets
along great. And again I want to stress in this
case of Anthony Jones, no disciplinary problems. He didn't, he
wasn't a bad person. Everybody likes the guy and that's great,
But I mean, five teams in five years.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
When you do that so much, you lose the passion
and the emotion for that school. You know, I think
about you going to school for a few years. You
learn about everybody in the establishment, everybody that's involved. It
means more. Right, Okay, you've been at five schools in
five years. What does it mean to you to win
a game for that university that's on your chest? Does
winning a game for Nebraska really mean anything other than
(13:05):
just being a football game? Because it should?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
All Right, here we go, Chris.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It's by the way, coming into the Zonkers custom woods
inbox with the velvet lining. Dear Chris, it sounds to
me that a player that's playing five teams five years
is not a teammate, that is an individual doing what's
(13:31):
best for him, which I don't have a problem with
guys doing what's best for them. But at the same time,
you got the team factor. All right, let's go back
to the phones. Four two, five, eight, eleven ten Ron.
You're on news radio eleven ten kfab Hello.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
So, yeah, I think it's just the NIL is taking
away loyalty. There's no loyal like you said, to any team,
and I think they should have to set out a
year if they transfer, and you know, I guess that's
my feelings.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So what it takes that bonding away?
Speaker 9 (14:12):
Yes, there's no bonding. There's no there's nothing for loyalty.
It's just they're out for the money. And I think
they're supposed to be going to college for their education first,
then they can play sports, you know, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I appreciate the call there Ron four two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten. It does say in the article how this
individual was very impressed with coach Rule because Coach Rule
talked about getting his degree and was putting a lot
of emphasis on this player getting his degree. And I
(14:46):
think that's great. I love that about Nebraska because I
think pretty much every coach I've seen come through here
they were they were very very focused on these guys
getting their degrees. And so I think that's. Uh, I
think that's a good thing. That's what I'm saying. I'm
Chris Baker. I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
How's that the education is really important and the kids
may not understand it in the moment, but while you're
there spending four years of your life or two years,
you might as well get a degree. It's only better
for it. Yeah, while you're at it, While you're at it,
while you're at.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
It, you know, may want to get a degree, go
to some good parties, get a degree. Oh, yeah, and
play some ball you.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Like Carson Beckin takes seven years to get it, but
that's okay because you got it, Cause you got it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I have a friend that went to college and he
told me it took him almost eight years to get
his degree because he was having too much fun.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
That's that's some determination, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It's a Chris Baker program four two, five, five, eight,
eleven ten. It says Anthony Jones is living in his
seventh state, third time zone. Really well written article. He's
learned half a dozen defensive schemes and the names of
hundreds of teammates, so he knows everybody. But back to
(16:07):
the original question is five teams in five years? Does
that show you what's wrong with nil? Or does that
show you what's right withinil?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
All right?
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It is the Chris Baker radio program here on news
radio eleven ten kfab all right, more emails. People say
they don't like they don't like it. The players can
leave every year without some type of penalty, and that
there's no loyalty. So if you put stipulations on players,
shouldn't you put stipulations on coaches who job hop Oh well,
(16:44):
that's kind of the industry. Right. In fact, I was
talking to my wife about this story this morning and
she said, wow, it kind of sounds like your radio career,
and that was a cheap shot. I never left year
after year. So my crazy wild wife and her peaky
blinders man peaky blinders all last night, just peaky blinders,
(17:08):
peaky blinders with the cigarettes. And so now I'm trying
to find out what organic cigarettes are made of.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
That's yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
In case you don't notice, I just started talking about
something else totally different. So we're in a little sports
talk here on the Chris Bakers Show. Got a brand
spanking new rush end at Nebraska and he's played for
five teams in five years. Some would say this is
(17:37):
an example of how nil is crushing college sports. Others
would say that, no, this shows that these guys get
to better their situation. They get in the In the
(17:58):
case of this player, he's the he's the breadwinner for
the family, so he's able to take care of his family.
Some people are not some people don't like it, some
people do. All I know is okay. All right, here's
Andrew on the Chris Bakers Show. Hello Andrew, Hi, Hey
(18:19):
you guys doing great, sir.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Thanks for asking.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
So I wanted to provide my perspective as somebody who
has never been an athlete, but somebody who actually did
get paid to go to school.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Should make you.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Was in the stem field genetics mostly, and so when
I got into grad school being my masters and my
pH d, so most of my PhD not my masters,
but I was actually paid. My tuition was paid for,
and I was paid a stipend to go and teach.
So that does happen in academics quite a bit, especially
with the professors. What I think that they need to
clarify is like the language on what these players are,
(18:54):
because I know that there's a lot of controversies, like
you know, the coaches aren't allowed or the university isn't allowed,
and I think there was even a law to with
the former Duke quarterback he got to for his NIAH degree.
So I think they seem to clarify the language and
either you know, make it like a work contract more specific,
or even make like the the university some sort of
(19:15):
facilitator of not the money, but like you know, they
house and train the player and all that other stuff,
so that if you have like a contractual obligation to
the university, you can break that and you need to
pay a thing like with like what I did in
my career. You know, you can get grants through like
the National Institute of Health and everything else. And when
I worked on my PhD stuff, we actually got like
(19:38):
a multimillion dollar grant through the NIH. And one of
the things they don't one of the things they don't
tell you when you get grants like that is yes,
you get x amount, and ours was multimillion. So we
got that money. As a lab. The university also gets
a share of that money, of some money that you
don't put on as being the facilitator, because they provide
the facilities, they provide the electricity, they provide some of
(19:59):
the women of common use. So I mean it will
take some work, but I think like they could work
that out for the players. And I mean, yeah, there
are people in the STEM field who like, you know,
if you're a major professor, you accepts another job and
you're a grad student or a postdoc, it's not uncommon
for those people to pick up and leave. Like one
of my good friends, his professor got a job at Tulane,
(20:20):
and yeah, the guy like picked up the move at
the end of the year and moved moved to Louisiana
and did that. So you know, it's not as common
as the players thing, but it's really not that unheard of.
I mean, there is a way, and I mean I
personally have no problem with like, you know, getting what
you're owned, and you know, with regard to this particular player,
I mean, you know, as long as Nebraska kind of
knows he's a mercenary going in and that's no, no
(20:41):
like impuning on his character. But it's like, yeah, he's
coming in just for this one year and it's a
risk and reward thing. It's not like any of that's
just from the hiring a tempted play. But I mean,
you know, you can you can make the argument about
the education. Well, I mean there's lots of people who
go going to football and never trying to get an education,
and that's the way. It's a way for years. It's
just they want the opportunity to play football, right, that's
(21:02):
never really going to change.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, all right, well, thank you very much. It's great
to have you listening to the show, so appreciate it.
All right, four, two, five, eight, eleven, ten. Guys, look
at that that guy that guy's big scientist guy PhD. Guy,
what the hell's you doing listening to this show? I'm kidding,
I'm kidding. All right, we got dueling. Jeff's Jeff number one.
(21:28):
You're on the Chris Baker Program. Hello Jeff, Hey.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Chris, how you doing great?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Hey? Something similar to this the nil slash transfer portal.
I'm a fan of Kentucky basketball, and years ago when
John Calipari was still the coach at Kentucky, he introduced
and promoted basically called the one and done system where
he brought in four and five star players for basketball,
(21:56):
kept them basically one year, and then they transferred it
out and went to the NBA draft. So we were
always going through players, very seldom with a guy play
for two years. So we've seen a player would come
in for one year with really no desire to play
for the team, you know, the University of Kentucky. Basically,
(22:16):
he was just there using us as a stepping stone
to move to the NBA, which is fine, but it
definitely destroys your program and it limits your ability to
win games because these guys never messages the team. They
come in, they use you for one year, and they're gone.
And it's definitely it hurt. It hurt our basketball program. Wow,
(22:38):
we're definitely we're not the team we used to be
twenty years ago at all. So it's it's like it's
like to transfer portal. But basically we were just a
stepping stone into the NBA. It's not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So back to my original question, is this the Is
this an example of hynil is good or YNI might
be bad just out of curiosity.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
It's good for the individual, but it's bad for the team.
And now John Calipari is no longer the coach at Kentucky.
He's at Arkansas and he's speaking out against the transferred
portal because he sees how it's hurting college basketball.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
All right, thanks for the call, Jeff. Good to hear
from you. Now let's see if Jeff two is better
than Jeff one.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
What do you think about that, Jeff two?
Speaker 7 (23:31):
College football is a job.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
It's work.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
And I played three years in high school on a
championship team and never got anything but a letter. And
then you go to college and it was a full
time job. Sometimes they got up in the morning, they
could barely move. They worked off season in waits, running conditioning.
There was never any let up. And to say that,
(23:57):
have anybody call in that hasn't played football before at
any level, high school, college, junior league. They can't understand
how much of a job college football is. It's a job.
And if they want to set up rules and have contracts,
that's fine. But you can't say you can't transfer, say
(24:18):
you get a bad coach, say you have a bad team.
There's all kinds of factors. It's got to be as
free enterprise as it possibly can be. And I'm all
for contracts better. Yet, if you score a touchdown you
get one thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars, if you
run over one hundred yards in the game or make
so many tackles, there's bonuses. The coaches are on bonuses.
(24:39):
Why not have the players Ernie. Ernie Chambers was right
twenty five years ago when he said you need to
have paid players because they're paid one way or they're
they're the scholarships or cars, and now it's dollars and
that's what you need to do.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Let's be honest, sir.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You've already made the point that defeat or any Chambers
because you said playing football is a job.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
That's a long way to go for a bad joke.
All Right, Thanks Jeff. It's great to hear from you.
I really appreciate it. Yeah, it is a job. And
if you think about it, and when you read in
this article in the Omaha World Herald, one of the
things that has talked about is how these players are
constantly doing something. They're either lifting, they have diet programs,
(25:29):
they have exercise programs, and they have you know, they
have levels that they have to reach. In other words,
they're held accountable for the lifting the weights they're supposed
to lift, eat the food they're supposed to eat, and
show up for whatever practice or whatever nonsense is going on.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I understand that some players they can't really you know,
like that first Jeff said, knowing players that couldn't move, well,
maybe they shouldn't have gone to that party.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
All right, I'm sorry. That was another bad another one.
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