Episode 226: I Have Some Bad News, and I Have Some Bad News

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Chris.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is episode to twenty six, and it's a fairly
heavy episode and it mentions news stories or references sexual
violence from current events, and there are multiple references to
sexual violence. And if you would prefer to skip this one,

(00:24):
I understand. So it is sort of a heavy episode.
And thank you as always for listening, and yeah, thank you, hello,

(00:48):
and welcome to episode to twenty six of cole Brew
Got me like live from Nashville, Tennessee. And Uh, I'm
gonna have coffee. I'm just gonna hopefully save my life. Hmmmm.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Is that cold brew?

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yes? Yeah, because uh, I feel kind of lousy. I
think allergies. I'm hoping like my eyes were all itchy,
so I'm thinking maybe that's what it is, allergies. But

(01:38):
I'm feeling kind of crappy. I don't have my bell.
I don't know where my bell is, so everything's all
fucked up anyway. M mm hmmmm. I still haven't put

(02:00):
up the most recent episode that we did, so I
have to put that up today, Okay, And so you
guys don't even know what we talked about last week,
which was mostly about Amazon or I keep saying Amazon
I'm not supposed to say Amazon, God damn it. Well,
mostly about some anonymous package delivering company that's ruining the world.

(02:26):
And imagine thinking about think about that, Like who would
have thought it? A package delivering company? That was definitely
low on the list of what you would have thought.
I mean, like none of the Villains and James Bond
movies were affiliated with package delivery delivery. I was considered
a fairly harmless pursuit, Like, I mean, that wasn't on

(02:49):
the list of you know what I mean, Like, that
wasn't something that we saw that would be the thing,
Like that people would become addicted to getting things as
soon as they ordered them and think that was magic
and therefore give all their money to the guy who
did that pulled that off. Like you could get a
roll of toilet paper like forty five minutes after you

(03:11):
ordered one. I mean, you could get one of those before,
you could just go to the store. But the fact
that it's delivery to your house has somehow amazed people
to the point where they've accidentally introduced fascism.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Well, it's actually really the other way. Yeah, I mean,
I was just gonna say, it's another way to not
talk to anybody. I just read an article recently that
the most popular class at this fancy school was a
class about happiness, and the teacher was flooded with students
trying to get into that class, and she's like, people

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don't talk to each other anymore, and that this is
this is another aspect of that.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Think about it.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
You could go to the store and used and meet
the cashier and talk to the people in the store
and say, where's the toilet paper.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Now, you sit in your house.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Playing video games and order your toilet paper and it
shows up. So it's another aspect towards socialism. Is this
socialization's cut off at the knees, at.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
The fucking knees. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, so toilet paper. Yeah,
people being amazed by quick delivery ruined the earth.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
But also people need to talk to each other, right,
I mean talking to people is not easy, and people
are getting worse at it in a lot of places.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I know, that's right.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah. I don't know what. I don't know what I
went to. I don't know what's becoming me. All of
a sudden, I'm so u tired or something. I don't
know what the hell happened. I felt like, I guess

(05:08):
I worked this week and all my college friends came
to visit last weekend, and and then I don't know,
somehow I just got really worn out. But anyway, it's

(05:30):
because so it's gonna be a sort of slightly lower
energy discussion of the end of the world than usual.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Well, the colbw got me.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Let me see if it helps me. On a second,
I got to have some more.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
I mean cutting socialization off at the knees.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
That's right itself.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, socializing, Yeah, I'm trying to think of, like what
society's greatest hits were this week. I guess I'm thinking
about Graham Platner, that candidate for senator in Maine in

(06:18):
uh yeah, in Maine running against Susan Collins, who's essentially like, wait,
she she's not a Democrat, right, she's Oh wait, is
she supposed to be a Democrat Susan Collins? Or is
she a Republican that people hope is reasonable? Is she
the one? I think she's a Republican who's always saying
that she's like gonna maybe do something and never you know,

(06:38):
she's like, I'm not sure about Donald Trump's plan to
close down every preschool in the country. I have to
think about it. I'm not sure it's a good idea,
and then she eventually votes for it anyway, So she's
like a professional gas lighter or she makes herself seem
reasonable and then always does the bad thing. I think

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she is a Republican, and so he's trying to become
the he's trying to become the senator of the senator
from Maine, and the New York Times published this like
expose about his about his dating before, I mean, like
the history of his dating and the main accuser of

(07:22):
like saying he was violent with her, which the level
of violence was not very high and it was like
grabbing her arm really hard. It turns out that woman
worked worked with an organization that created like a way

(07:44):
to address a way to get Kavanaugh confirmed. She worked
to get Kavanaugh confirmed in a way that was trying
to like like it was a way she worked for
a Republican group that wanted a message getting rid of
or getting Kavanaugh confirmed in light of me too. So

(08:05):
they basically made up feminist language to try and defend
Bret Kavanaugh, you know, who was credibly accused of rape,
and this woman was involved with the effort to get
Kavanaugh confirmed. This this exact accuser of Graham Platner and
uh I think his first name is Graham M. M.

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And the New York Times published this thing without any
corroborating evidence, Like the woman who accused him of violence
did not tell anybody you know at the time that
that happened. I mean, there was no you know, in general,
I would like to. I mean, I usually, you know,

(08:49):
I support women. I mean, that's why it puts you
in a terrible position, because you you're you're you're not
supposed to. I mean, it's certainly true that men are
constantly abusing women, So I not that, but the fact
that this woman was directly connected to the effort to

(09:12):
confirm Kavanaugh in a way that was supposed to thwart
the meats heap to movement, I mean, it just seems
like a disqualifying thing for her story, which is not
corroborated in isn't doesn't really say as much about his
character as well. They're trying to make it sound like

(09:36):
it does. And so the New York Times and the
Washington Post and everyone is piling on grand Platner, and
grand Platner has said he wants to not support send
money to Israel anymore. And that's why this is happening,
you know, because Israel is running things, and you know,

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and Graham Platner.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Also pass key to his party's chances of reclaiming the Senate.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, and the Democrats don't care if they reclaim the Senate.
The Democrats like being and this is something I have
to be reminded of, but Democrats like being in the
party that's like, we could do something if we if
we if we could, we wouldn't we would do something
if we could. But they actually all support Israel too,
so you know, they're not really wanting to be Democrats

(10:32):
are going along with all the stuff that's happening, so
they're not really they don't want to really be in
power because this way they get to look like they
are in like if we were in power, we would
do something. But they also have proven that they won't
do anything if they are in power, except for sending
weapons Israel. So you know this, we don't really have
an opposition party. We have two parties that both want

(10:52):
to squash anybody who doesn't want to fund Israel and
seeing that happen with the help of journalists at the
New York Times and the Washington Post, which I know
the Washington Post is owned by Jeff Bezos, so that's
not surprising, but it also is kind of surprising because
Israel has done stuff at this point that's so egregious.
I mean, NBR just reported today that Israel has killed

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you know, one hundred and forty or one hundred and
twenty six or one hundred and something healthcare people in
Lebanon who they're not even supposed to be at war with.
There's no there's no justification for attacking Lebanon. They're they're
they're they're making it. They're they're just they're doing what
Russia did in Ukraine to Lebanon, and they already did
it to a gaza. So so you know the fact

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that we have all our media covering for Israel is like,
you know, it's like really all you need to know
about where we stand. I mean, there's nobody standing up
for freedom of speech at this point at all. So
Grand Platner, you know, is like the aversion of Bernie Sanders.
I mean it sort of. I mean Bernie Sanders actually

(12:09):
wants to keep funding Israel, or he certainly supports Israel's
current set up as an ethno state. But but but
but in general, Bernie wanted to tax the rich, which
is also another reason that Democrats will try and squash somebody.
So we have no, we can't tax the rich, we

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can't stop a genocide, can't we can't do We're not
doing anything. The Democrats don't want to do anything, and
that's why they keep getting away with this. They like
being in the position where they can say we can't
do anything, because then they can participate in doing it
and act like they don't want it. And so Grand
Platner is an example of somebody who's trying to stand

(12:51):
up to that. And look what's happening to him. I mean,
it's I mean, it's a really flimsy case. Let's just
put it that way. Read the New York Times thing.
It's a fucking flimsy case. And they've been trumpeting it
on all their fucking social media and everything is if
this is the end of grand Platiner's candidacy. But the
thing is, people on the street don't want they want

(13:12):
grand Platiner to win. They want both sides are aware
of what Israel is doing. Both sides are aware of
the need to tax the rich. Both sides don't want
data centers. You know, the government just classified people who
are against data centers as terrorists. That's what they're I mean,
like the I think New York State already did it.

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Like they're calling them techno terrorists or something like people
who are against technology. They're trying to classify them as
actual terrorists that can be charged federally for opposing a
data center. So anyway, that's the grand Platner's the example
of the will of the people is not entering into

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the picture here for Democrats or republic I mean, certainly
not Republicans, but the Democrats. Also, Graham Platner is is popular,
just like Zoran Mamdani is popular. Just like just like, uh,

(14:21):
who's the name of the live streamer that they've been
trying to trash. Hassan Hassanabi, the big, the big liberal streamer,
like the Joe Rogan of the left they are, they've
been trying to Hassan Piker, Hassan Piker. They've spent more

(14:42):
time criticizing Hassan Piker than they have criticizing Israel. I mean,
Israel's killing This is NPR today announced that I mean,
this is and this is the coverage that sneaks through
like NPR. I'm sure we're terrified to publish this story
about Israel. Because you published anything about Israel, you're accused
of being anti Semitic by Zionists, not regular Jewish people,

(15:04):
I mean tons of Jewish people who are I don't
even most Jewish people are opposed to what Israel is doing,
I would say, And so you know, you just have anyway,
the Hassanabi or Hassan Piker, I think he goes with

(15:25):
HasanAbi on his streaming thing. He is a guy who
speaks the truth about Israel. So therefore he's labeled this
anti Semitic. And and all the Democrats, the all the
Democrat power class, all the you know, all the all
the Democrats that just got done destroying Gaza and killing

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one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand, they
don't even know how many people six hundred thousand. I mean,
Israel now at this point has sixty percent of Gaza
is theirs, and they just announced recently that they're going
to take seventy percent. So and then now they're taking
twenty percent of Lebanon, and you know, they're people that
live in these places. They're not just taking twenty percent

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or seventy percent of places that aren't. They're taking this
land the same way Russia is taking the land from Ukraine.
Except Russia is bad and Israel's good, I mean by
the standards of you know, our political class, which makes
no sense. But we spend more time going after people

(16:33):
who are critical of Israel than we go after the
fact that Israel they're not just killing medics. They've been
doing it for three years now almost. I mean, and
they kill them. They drop a bomb on people, and
then when the medics come, they wait for the medics

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to come, and then they drop a bomb on the medics.
I mean, this has been documented. They just it just
was reported today by NPR. I mean it was just
not a it's not an anti Israel simple as I
mean organization. So we just continue to be in the
darkest of times. Really and and uh and uh.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Platner attended Hotchkiss School in Lakeville, Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's a rich kid.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
He's forty one.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
That's a rich kid. But anyway, so that's that's.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
He's he spent a lot of time in the military.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
He served in the military, and I don't know that.
I don't know if Platner is a good guy. I
just know that this reporting about him grabbing his girlfriend's
arm is not enough to disqualify him from being I mean,
this is not and finding out that girlfriend is a
Republican operative, I mean, that's that's not a reason to
get rid of him. I don't believe anybody. I don't

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believe any politician as a savior. I don't believe I
believe we need mass action like a general strike or something.
I don't believe that. I'm not I'm not even saying
that what this reveal. I don't know if Graham Plattner
is a good guy or not. But but this effort
to to to smear him, which is yeah, which is

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taking up more space than they're taking up the space
where you're supposed to be. There's an actual genocide going on,
and they're not covering that. They're covering, you know, they're
covering people who are who are saying because this country
is doing genocide, we can't fund them anymore. And they're
going after the people who are saying that and saying
that they're the terrorists I mean, it's it's just insanity.
It's really rough. So that's what's sure. It's you know,

(18:43):
that's certainly the backdrop for me. I mean every every
time I see something like The New York Times revealing
itself like that, it makes me sad. I mean, that's
the paper that we're supposed to be looking to, or
one of the organizations that is it is supposed to
be telling the truth, and it makes me sad that
they're not.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
They could be swift boating platinar.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Remember that term, John Kerry.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean no, it's it's a it's
a real.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Invented by political operatives. Who's that guy that died of
the brain tumor? Is Bush's brain?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
I mean, it's not a it's certainly not a criticism
of Jews. It's a criticism of Israel. It's it's Israel
has has has done terrible things, and and and and
as a result, they are trying to control the media's
coverage of it, and they they've said it out loud.
I mean, it's not it's not Israel has said out

(19:50):
loud that they're trying to conflate being anti genocide with
being anti anti Semitic. So I mean, what a time
to be what a time to be alive? To see
this sort of stuff. It's just shitty. And uh so

(20:21):
I always think about that, you know, I just think
about think about things I thought would be things I
thought would not ever happen. Also, I thought Israel was

(20:44):
I mean, it's not like America has a great military.
I mean in terms of the military. I mean, we
do stuff that is I mean, I just I don't know,
I knew. I Also I thought that that that it
was like, I don't know, I think maybe when I
was younger, I believe the whole few bad apples kind

(21:05):
of thing or something like that. Like I didn't really
I didn't understand that you could kind of get a
whole like our cops in this country seeing seeing us
as the enemy. Like I didn't think that was possible
to make change the culture like that, to change the
culture of a whole army. I mean, I guess I

(21:27):
knew you could, but I mean, it happened to Nazi Germany.
They did it. I mean, it's doable, but I just,
you know, to see what's going on in Newark where
people are protesting the ice facility, which is a private
company and it's being protected by federal by a state troopers.
That's supposed to be. You're not supposed to have state

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troopers beating people up who want to find out what
a private company is doing to it's prisoners. I mean
they you know, they're not there's pepper spraying the senator,
you know, like in the name of Geo Prisons, which
is a like I mean that's the same as Radio Shack.
I mean, it's a private It's like Walmart if they

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had a prison and you tried to find out what
Walmart was doing to the prisoners, and the entire force
of the US government protected Walmart. I mean that's that's
in like the scenes from the Newark. The scenes from
Newark are like make the Democratic Convention police beatings look quaint.
The ones from nineteen sixty eight, the ones that changed

(22:32):
the national conversation. Now the national conversation just doesn't exist.
There is no national conversation. There is no agreed upon morality.
But if you anybody who in the oh in the
coverage of that was all the New York Times and
everybody just covered it as a protesters got violent, the
police got violent, and just go look at it. They

(22:54):
have the moment the police attacked. The police attacked the
demonstrators in a very it was a police riot. I mean,
just the same way the Democratic National Connection convention in
nineteen sixty eight was, and every news outlet covered it
as the protesters became violent. That is inaccurate. Go look
at the video. There's tons of video. People have cameras now,
so it's like these things don't even they're disprovable. You

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can see the moment the officers charged the protesters and
started beating the shit out of them. I mean, in
the name of protecting a company that is pretty well
documented at this point for abusing the detainees, and the
tons of they're holding the women separate and the girls

(23:38):
separate from the men. It's separated obviously, So it's like
a and the women in ICE custody are getting pregnant
even though they're all in all women dorms, because the
ice officers are raping the women. And this is all
under Geo's This is GEO, private company that's running these
I mean, you have an issue with a private company,

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the government's supposed to be able to check on it,
but in this case, the government has to fit anyway.
It's just it's just fucking nuts. The whole thing is
absolutely completely uh fascist, you know, and we're not supposed
to say fascist either, you know, it's it's it's it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
But then they also passed the big funding bill for ICE.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I didn't even understand that. Why do they need more
money already?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
The Senate just passed it. Hopefully the House is not going.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
To pass it, but oh good, but they will.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I'm sure they will. It's seventy billion dollars with a bee.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
Why would they need that much money if they just
got a bunch of money from the Big Beautiful Bill.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Because we're all going to end up in these I mean,
this is this is a this is for political prisoners.
It's not for immigrants, it's for political prisoners. It's for everybody.
This is a this is you don't need. Yeah, you
don't need seventy billion dollars you don't need. Plus the
fifty billion they got with a in the Big Beautiful Bill,
You've got one of the world's most powerful armies of

(25:11):
unemployed men wearing you know, wearing sneakers and jeans that
have no oversight, who are already raping women in their
detention centers and getting them pregnant. And it's still they're
funding them more so, this is part of a project
to This is part of a project by the wealthy

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to make it so nobody will say anything ever about anything.
That's all it is. It's like that there's this is
a project to put to centers in jail. This is
so obvious. I mean, this is you don't need one
hundred and twenty billion dollars to control an immigration problem
that is not even they're not even finding anybody. All

(25:56):
the people who committed crimes as illegal immigrants are already
in jail. And we've talked about this on another show.
But they've successfully acted as if like the whole there
were just drug dealers and gang bangers and everybody just
running around free in the country. We cut all the
illegal criminals, those criminals. There's tons of undocumented people in prison,

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they've already been arrested. There's not violent people running loose everywhere.
That's why they're imprisoning. These prisons are not being set
up for violent criminals. It was a live from the
beginning because we already have those violent criminals in prison.
That's what we have a huge police state. We've got
the highest incarceration of any country in the world. There

(26:41):
weren't eleven million criminals running around America. They were eleven
million hard working moms and things like and that's using
these jails. So the whole thing is a project to
put innocent people in jail. That's what this is. This
is a project to put innocent people in jail and
scare the shit out of everybody, so no one will ever,

(27:02):
you know, be able to do anything if if a
data center comes to their neighborhood and like you've seen
on news reports or I've seen the water pressure drops
and you have dirt coming out of your faucet. That's
happened all over the place from data centers. But they're
gonna put in hundreds. We have more data centers in
America than any other country in the world. They're setting

(27:24):
up these camps for people who don't like data centers,
and they've set it out loud. They're trying to make
their I mean, you're a terrorist, you go to you
go to a detention facility. I mean this is for us.
I mean that's this is for us. And and that's
why the numbers are so high. And that's why they
need seventy billion dollars because this is this is this

(27:48):
is a real nightmare.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
This is not some.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Fake, uh you know, practice nightmare. This is the real
They're going for it for real. You don't turn back
when you've got this much dumb, this much illegal shit,
you don't turn back. That's why the midterms are not
gonna happen, or they're gonna happen in some way. That's
just awful.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
But I'm looking at the press right now, and the
Bidens are on tour with their new books, and you know,
Biden is speaking normally, and you know, perhaps he could
have stayed president.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
If he had gotten some treatment.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
And supposedly he had a stroke during that debate, and
so it's well, that.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Whole administration though, yeah, I'm sure it was corrupt. Well,
they they enabled to genocide. If they had stopped the genocide,
then this would have I mean, this, this set up,
this whole whole situation, is that they lied constantly, that
whole Biden administration. They just kept lying saying it wasn't
a genocide.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I know, that's not my point. My point is that
it's just it doesn't There is no freedom of choice.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
There's no voting, there's like the media decides what's happening, right,
Like Biden was swept.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Off out of the politics by the media.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
I mean I a couple of years ago, I wanted
him to stay president, regardless of what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Oh, no, well he would he would have. You're right,
he would have been better than than this.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
He was, and he was swept away by the reports
you're talking about now about Platner, like this false reports,
like relentless media coverage about you know, who knows what.
And now he's standing talking normally on a stage in
South Dakota writing a book.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, and Trump Trump, Trump isleep right in front of everybody,
and nobody has a problem. Jake Tapper has no problem
with it whatsoever. Uh, you know Trump.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
And it's also about money, like I see Obama just
opened eight hundred and fifty billion dollar museum for him.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
So and why do.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Presidents billion must be million?

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Sorry million? Why still?

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Why are presidents doing that? Like why do we need
a huge museum for Obama? And why do we need
to see his handprint? You know, he didn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, Obama was not he you know what?

Speaker 4 (30:21):
And you know regardless of Biden's Israel policy. You know,
you may be right one hundred percent about that, but
it's like I I liked what he did. I liked
how he handled the Russia war, the war in Russia.
I thought he did handle that well. I liked how
he handled domestic stuff. And they got rid of him,

(30:43):
and now we got Trump. I mean, all of it.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
The fix is in with all of it, not just
platin Er. Yeah, and a lot of it's the media.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
And everyone putting in their two cents until there's nothing left.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
And here I am he's he's saying, you know, I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Biden said a lot of good things about anti fascist
things during his presidency against Trump, and now Trump's out
talking to farmers.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
No, it's just it's just hard to stomach.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, I don't know what I mean. I don't Yeah,
you're you're right. I mean, i I'm just I'm I'm
just I'm just thinking from us. I'm just over here
thinking now. I'm just starting to think about the podcast,
like I'm thinking about No, you're I mean, I'm thinking
about what kind of podcast this is. I'm not I'm

(31:36):
starting out in a shitty mood, but it's not a
shitty mood. It's like that Platiner stuff really bothered me.
But I understand what. I understand what you're saying. Yeah,
it's it's it's it's not just Platiner and I did.
I didn't. I don't even and I don't think there's
such a thing as a savior. We need a cultural
shift where people understand that we're being controlled and we're not.

(31:57):
We're not. We don't get we're not getting it, so
we're not gonna get it. So that's what sucks, is
I guess just I get discouraged, you know, because I
talked to a friend. Well, I'm not gonna even get
into it. But but you know, we can't even agree
on you know, most people now think Platiner's got to go.

(32:18):
You know, that's how people still believe these papers, you
know what I mean. Like, it doesn't that after the fact,
after they run. If the New York Times runs a
smear piece on the level that they ran on Platiner,
no one's gonna hear the follow up because they've already
made up their mind. Because there was a huge part
of America that still believes the New York Times flat
out and they know they have that power, so they

(32:40):
can they can get rid of Biden, or they can
smear Platiner and get rid of them. And I don't
know what Platiner would be like, you know, I don't
trust these people. So like, as soon as this guy's
getting so much praise from the lefties of the party
and of the Democrats, you know that Platner is a
big celebrity. And all he's doing is saying the basics, really,
which is like, you don't fun genocides, and you don't

(33:01):
fucking you don't you start taxing rich people if they're
making it illegal to criticize their data centers. That's the basics.
And even the basics makes you a hero now and
and and makes the entire establishment pounce on you for
saying things that everybody agrees on. Everybody agrees that every
person on the street agrees with this at this point,

(33:23):
that the rich need to be taxed, and uh, the
media just picks the five people or the twelve Trump
supporters that don't believe that anymore. But but the numbers are,
we want change, we just will not be given any
choices that would lead to that, and so on. Mcdonni's
a I mean, that guy is like, you know, Zionists

(33:45):
are saying we're going to survive, Mam donnie. They've called
them an anti semi. You know, you know, nothing that
they've said is true. He's always doing, is doing the
policies that that a regular politician used to do, like
focusing on fixing roads and childcare and these things. Uh,

(34:06):
but now politics has been turned into this like, oh,
everybody believes the government can't get anything done, and it's like, mom,
Donnie's proving that's not true. And he's getting called an
anti Semite for just because he's a Muslim orhy is
he Muslim? I think he is Muslim? But like you know,

(34:26):
I mean I remember years ago, like around nine to
eleven where people are like, well, we mustn't conflate Muslims
with nine to eleven. It seemed like that was pretty accepted,
and now it's just like Muslims are bad, Like, I mean,
that's where we're we have like actual I mean, Zora,
Mam donnie's getting criticized and called like a well it's
also because he's a socialist, but he's but he's being

(34:47):
called an anti Semite based on the fact that he's
just Arab, you know, and that's that you didn't used
to be an acceptable thing to do. Just call I
mean everyone's it's like, oh Zara Mamdani, Yeah, he's a
he's a.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
He's a.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
He's an antisemitic person because he's because he's Muslim. That's
that's not. That's not normal. And it's all because he
wants to fucking make crosswalks or whatever.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
But no, he's going after the landlords, right or whatever.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
He wants to return things to some sort of balance.
Like if everybody knows there's some there's something wrong. I mean,
anybody knows that a whole generation of people who who
can't afford housing. That's not that's not. That's it can't
be a controversial thing to go after landlords unless the

(35:38):
landlords control the media and make it controversial, which is
what's happening. The landlord's plant stories or that you know
they have friends of the New York Times, and the
New York Times says, well, we mustn't be mad at landlords. Now,
why the fuck not?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
What is happening with uh Yahoo and Lebanon.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
I don't even know what he's doing. And he's trying
to get has Blah. I mean, I've just sort of
I'm just confused.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
They just attacked Lebanon. They say it's because of because
they just because they well, because they want a bigger
piece of land for themselves, just like Russia does. I mean,
that's all it is. Israel has said they have a
great it's called the Greater Israel Project, and they want
more They want to have a huge zone for Israel.
They just want to have more land, just like Nazi Germany,

(36:26):
you wanted more land. I mean, this is an Israel
expansion project. It's no different. Not after terrorists, No, and
they weren't after a terrorists in Gaza. You're not allowed
to kill everybody in the whole area. If they're after terrorists,
you don't you just go get the terrorists. You can't.
You can't do what they're doing in any sense. Nothing
they're doing has ever been legal, right from the beginning

(36:46):
of Gaza conflict. You can't just kill everybody because you
say there's some terrorists mixed in. That's illegal. That's that's
that's that's a war crime.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
So should American Jewish American citizens be speaking up about this?

Speaker 1 (37:03):
They do? They do, Yeah, they're just they just get
labeled the anti Semitic even though they're Jewish.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
But but there's there's not enough of them again, No.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
It's they're speaking of tons. It's just it's just not
the people speaking. Doesn't make any difference anymore, it doesn't.
Legislators are so convinced that they will stay in office
just with the billionaire's money from TV ads and stuff
that they don't they don't feel like they need the
votes like they and they're also jerrymandering it so on

(37:34):
both sides where you where you won't get they can
stay in office without having to listen to anybody about
Gaza or Lebanon or whatever. They just will stay in office.
They're confident that they'll stay in office. And they don't
have to because billionaires have enough money to fund every
Democrat and every Republican, and they definitely do, they donate

(37:56):
to both sides. They just make sure these people stay
in office.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
So so it's really just a question of us living
long enough to see the lack of regulation and the
rise of tech has just increased the uh, the money
and politics problem. And it's it's not really more than that,
and it's it doesn't stop, it just gets worse. Yeah,

(38:24):
So there's not how there's not not a lot of
ways you can interact with that.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
As an average Joe.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
No, and I.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Other than I guess get your mind around it, and
which I've done for thirty years, and that hasn't helped
me at all.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah. Well yet, And and and it's not safe for
anybody to speak up for Israel. I feel, I mean,
speak out out against Israel. I feel nervous about it myself.
I mean, it's been classified as a like a terrorist
act basically, So I mean, you're you're you can't just.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
Well, in the early days of this of the the uh,
the event that sparked this attack on Gaza, you on
this show.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Were worried about saying the right thing because.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
You're not Jewish and you don't want to overstep your bounds.
And I didn't say anything because I didn't I just
didn't feel like I knew what it was going on.
And it turns out everyone should have spoken up earlier
and more right.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
And now they know that.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, I mean, and it's not stopped. I mean, it's
still going I mean, and and uh, you know, NPR
will be labored labeled anti Semitic by Israelis, of course,
not by this is Israeli since Zionists I mean will
label NPR. I mean, there's been reporting about sexual violence

(39:47):
that has been perpetrated by the Israeli army systematically, and
that was considered. That was Nicholas Christoph did a column
about like the sexual violence that's being employed by the
Israeli in the Israeli prisons on on Palestinians, and they

(40:13):
everybody labeled The New York Times anti Semitic for running that.
But everybody being is is Israel, Israeli and and and
uh Israeli government people and also a pac which is
aligned with Israel, and APAK gives to so many candidates here,
so they have a big voice.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
And then it's complicated by the fact that actual anti
Semitic Semitism has risen across the globe. Right, So there's
real anti Semitism going on also, is that right?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I mean, there's people who are I mean, it's it's
it's difficult. You just you just have to you just
have to focus on the fact that Israel has to
stop doing what they're doing. It's it's not a matter
of like anybody except for the government of Israel. But
but it's also is it.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
The Kushners that are involved in this, because obviously they
connected it was a direct line to Israeli power and
moving Jerusalem, And.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Well, yeah, they're they're interested in the in the gas
of land. They're interested in if there are two things,
if they can get rid of the Muslims who they
you know, many Israeli government figures have called the Palestinians
at animals and said that they need to be killed.
So you know, it's it's it's a too two pronged thing.

(41:37):
I mean, it's about real estate and about racism at
the same time, which is perfect for people like the Kushners,
who are just like amoral people who who will collaborate
with Trump, you know, will collaborate with anybody with they'll
collaborate with the Kushner's got money from the the Saudi
prince who killed the journalists. I mean, they don't give
a fuck, you know, these are these are not you

(41:59):
can call people. You know, you can call anybody a
Jew or an Israeli or whatever, but if you're a
moral person, you don't really those labels don't really apply.
I mean, like the people like Kushner are just like
criminals and violent people, regardless of their nationality or religion.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Right, But something's locked in this power structure, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
And it started with maybe.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Trump's first term and then moving the business to Jerusalem
or whatever they did. And I mean.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Adelson, Miriam Aidelson gives huge amounts of money to Trump,
helped them get elected, and she's like wants Israel to
you know, ethnically cleanse the Middle East. I mean it's like,
you know, these are certain rich people are very into
Israel kicking the shit out of Muslims, and they happen
to be also funding politicians.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
But why is the governments corrupt over there like it
is over in our country, Like we can't do anything
to stop our government. I guess do you have any
idea of the politics over there? I mean, Netanyahu was
accused of corruption before all this started, and that's maybe
part of the guys that we thought he became such
a warhawk distract from his own malfeasance.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, but he's also an avowed racist, so he said,
I mean avowed. I don't know if he avowed, but
he's spoken. The thing is they speak in Hebrews, so
you have to deal with like subtitles. But they've but
they legitimate translators have translated. You know, these these guys
in the government of Israel are deeply racist, people who
hate see Palestinian as a subhuman and so they don't

(43:47):
consider them to be people. That's why there's been you know,
there's been tons of reporting that that that that they
were that the Israeli army was shooting kids in the
head on purpose, head and growing, head and growing, they
were shooting them trading off days. I mean, this is
this is the same stuff where you decide another person
is not a person. I mean, but they this is

(44:09):
not I'm not making this up. The u N the
UN said that they shot hundreds of children in the head,
I mean on purpose. I mean, so it's like industrial
you know, this.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Is why it's amazing that people can stay alive like
Yahu and Putin and Trump and Trump's obviously having difficulties
staying alive.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
People are trying to shoot them all the time.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Well that's what's disheartening. I mean, the fucking and this
is I don't even know if we can even air
this episode. I don't I don't feel like getting arrested.
But but but but I mean, you know, I don't
think we will because I think we're too small. But
but I mean, I do know that this is you know,
it's relevant, but it's also just feels I hate that.

(44:53):
I hate that Israel has gone berserk and it's cast
a shadow on Jewish people and or you know, made
people feel like they can hate Jewish people or I
hate that. I don't want that. I don't want any
of that. And I just you know, the flotilla that
went to Israel, to the flotilla that went to Gaza,

(45:16):
you know, they send these groups of boats, you know,
that try and feed Goazins, and they just had one.
I mean, this is this has been squashed pretty thoroughly.
But I don't know, so I don't know if you
even heard about it. But the flotilla got stopped in
the ocean by by Israel. They were loaded onto prison

(45:36):
ships and run through a gauntlet and a shipping container
where they were beaten mercilessly and the women were raped.
And they've all come. They all then they then they
arrived in Israel like they got brought them on shore
and the Ben Gavier, the one of the cabinet guys,
like while they were tied up and kneeling in the airport,

(45:59):
like went around and taunted them and stuck his tongue
out at them and stuff. And they had just been
raped and beaten, and they they proved it. I mean,
they're covered and covered and they were all like every
single person on that prison ship was they were taking
off these boats in international waters, which is illegal. Brought
them into a shipping container and ran each one of

(46:19):
them through it, beat them in the dark with guns,
stuck guns in their asses. I mean, this is like
the culture of the Israeli military. It's not an aberration.
This is under orders that they are told to sexually
humiliate and beat. I mean, it's like if this ever
happened any year besides now, when the media has been

(46:39):
completely frightened into silence, you know, they're, well, Israel always
has had, you know, whatever resolution there ever was about
against Israel, the United States would always veto in the UN,
which of course made the UN bullshit to begin with,
because they're like China, the US and Russia and all
veto whatever solution happens. So it's not really an equal situation.

(47:05):
But I mean, like, uh, it's it's like creates an
atmosphere for a person where you can't, like, you can't
say progress is happening while that's going on, Like, you
can't just put that aside. You can't just put that
aside and be like, oh, let's just like vote for well, hopefully,

(47:28):
like the midterms will save us. It's like, no, there's
something much deeper going on here, and it's not gonna
it's not gonna be We're not gonna be saved from
it bye bye by voting for these same people that
are allowing it. Like, the same culture that is allowing
this to happen is the same culture that we're going
to be given choices of at the ballot box. So
we can't vote our way out of something that's by

(47:51):
voting for the same people who are doing it. And
that's both sides. So I just like, I think about that,
and I think about what I do, what should I
do to stop thinking about that? Because it's not like
an alcoholics anonymous they say, you know, well, it's the thing, Lord,

(48:15):
grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can, and the
wisdom to know the difference. You know, so how do
you judge what you can change? And and that's all,
you know. I don't know how to. I don't know
how to.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
I think I'm better at just not thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
I don't know why, but that's just my genetic makeup
that I guess I have enough my my own problems
that I just not I don't worry about that as much.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
But I hear you and I believe you too, So
it is a problem if you're how do you how
do you?

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah like that?

Speaker 4 (48:53):
I don't know whether I think I do think that.
You know, humanity is capable of this.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
You know, we've kept been capable of it over and
over and over.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
And I guess the semblance of democracy that the United
States is trying to promote was supposed to be an
escape from that, right, and it really isn't, especially right now.
So I think that's one way to get used to it.
It's like it's nothing new, you know, you hope, Like
I think in my brain, I was like, oh, well,

(49:23):
they're not sticking guns anywhere, and there's no prison ships,
and that's the thing in the past. But obviously it's
not like, you know, soldiers raping people and that's obviously,
you know, part for the course, when war happens, and
when racial war happens, and you know, two groups of
people that live next to each other can hate each other.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
That just happens in humanity. Yeah, over and over.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Well, let's take your little break. I don't even know
if I honestly, I don't know why I can't. I don't.
Some weeks I'm in a good mood, and some weeks
I'm in a bad mood. I mean some I feel
like I'm try and snap out of it, or I
don't know how to. I don't know. I don't. I
wish we were talking about frogs in a rock. So

(50:15):
let's take a little break and be right back.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Okay, all right, God coma.

Speaker 6 (50:30):
Message sounds sounds copy taste, It.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Says one, We're back. I don't know if you guys,
that first half was a little miserable. It's my uh
my mood. I don't know, Like I don't know. In
talking about Israel just really is such a drag because

(51:07):
it's it's just like so sad. The whole thing's sad.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
I mean, yeah, it's just imagine if your loved ones
were murdered.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I mean, it's it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Yeah, and you can't and you can't, like the news
is like intentionally covering for your murderers. I mean, you're
just like this this has been Yeah, you kill this
many people, and it's like the number of people who
are like, I don't know, So why do I feel
sorry for myself? I'm lucky, but I don't want to
feel lucky. I want to just feel like people are

(51:38):
being treated somewhat normally and like the idea of like
you know that the society or the whatever it is,
the arc of history is bending toward the good, you know,
and it just doesn't feel that way right now. So
it's hard. And this week was just like I just
am tired, you know, I had and I'm scheduling shows
and things that I'm enjoying them, but I'm also like

(51:59):
kind of just emotionally tired from from probably reading the news.
I don't know, you know, and I don't I just
really don't know how to make that call to stop
reading the news. I don't know how to. I'm sure, like,
you know, someday I'm going to die, and I don't know.
No one's going to give me a verdict on whether
I watch too much news or not, We're never gonna know.

(52:20):
We just have to judge for ourselves'd be cool if
like you got to the Pearly Gates and they were like, listen,
you know what, you watch too much news, but still
you try to do your best. But that's what you
could have had a better life. Now you get to
go to heaven. But I will say you could have
had more a better time on earth if you didn't
watch the news so much. Like they'll never give you that.

(52:44):
You're never going to get that.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
I think whatever's in your makeup, you're definitely a thorough person.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
So you definitely investigate stuff, like you know, YouTube videos
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Right, like curiosity killed the cat, but not curiosity killed
all the cats. So I don't know, it's difficult.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
Uh So, like.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I got some fun stuff. Uh I did intentionally write
a column. Yeah, I intentionally wrote a column that was
supposed to be sort of lighthearted, you know, because I
was like, well, I really want to write about the
police drones in Nashville, but.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Maybe Freddie should have to have one come in his
to his house.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Definitely, definitely did we talk about that last week?

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Yeah, land on his house during supper.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Yeah, I'd be like, they're just they're not. They don't
have the cameras on. Are you sure?

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Not?

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Really? But you know they probably don't. I mean they're
I mean that you gotta you know, you gotta figure
that drone people are polite also, I mean, drone people
are still people, and they're probably like, we're gonna turn
the cameras off. We're not gonna look at you. We're
not gonna watch you eat dinner. They're not. We've got
to put some faith in the people, right, So, yeah,

(54:19):
the drones are like So instead, I was like, I asked,
I asked for advice King questions, and I said make
them mundane. So I got this, Dear advice King, how
do I get into the Frozen lemon Dear Advice King,
how do I get into the Frozen Lemonade game? Signed

(54:41):
Stephen in Nashville. I said, what is the Frozen Lemonade game?
By get into the game, do you mean opening a
store that sells frozen lemonade. If by get into the
Frozen Lemonade game you mean that you would like to
consume some frozen lemonade. I would advise you to purchase

(55:02):
some frozen lemonade. I'm going to assume you're an adult,
so I'm going to guess that you would like to
start a highly profitable chain of lemonade stores. Also, what
is frozen lemonade? The minute made stuff in cans from
the nineteen seventies. Oh my god, people were crazy about
drink concentrates in the seventies and eighties. You're probably too

(55:23):
young to remember, but a suburban mom would be regarded
with suspicion if she wasn't in the process of defrosting
multiple fruit cylinders. Back then, it was almost as popular
as smoking. In this case, I think you must means
the more modern Italian ice soft served kind. I'm not
a businessman, Stephen. My degree is in art history. In

(55:46):
my opinion, majoring in art history is indicative of a
lack of judgment so profound that it should cause you
to doubt the value of any practical advice I might offer.
That being said, here is the advice King guide to
getting into the frozen lemon game. Number one, use AI
to make videos suggesting that you already have a thriving
frozen eight frozen lemonade business called Steven Squeezers. Number two,

(56:11):
do an IPO for your imaginary business number three, dump
stock number four get pardoned by Donald Trump. If you
absolutely insist on doing things fair and square, which is
so unpopular at this point that it's almost frowned upon,
you will unfortunately need a shit ton of lemons. The
Advice King Guide to getting into the Frozen Lemonade game

(56:33):
fair and Square number one. Find out how much it
costs to rent a building. Number two, check bank account
number three quit lemonade business. So that was that one,
and then I put in a bonus question, Dear Advice King,
what's the best non lettuce based salad? Which was another
question I actually got signed Daisy in Pensacola, Florida.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Sounds like you're really hearing from your fans. That's good, yeap.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
What's the best non let us based salad? I said,
word salad. The best word salad comes from proponents of
AI flock cameras, ring cameras, fuse us LPRs, and drone policing.
They say it's all about progress and safety, but it's
really about control.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
Delicious.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
So that's my.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Column for this week.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
So I was thinking an extension of that drone landing
on Freddy's house.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Idea.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
Maybe maybe chain link fences now can go above your
house as well, so you're just in a cube.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Sure, that's what the block out the drone attacks. Well,
that's the thing is, it's safer than It's so much
safer than it was in like the nineteen seventies. Now,

(58:09):
like I forget the percentages, but I mean violent crime
is nowhere near what it used to be. And it's
simply because people stay home so much. In order to get,
you know, a date or to have any kind of fun,
you had to leave the house in the past at
night and go to a bar or go to a show,

(58:32):
you know, And that's totally different now. I mean, like
there was in your house there was like a TV
that had thirteen channels on it, and there was that
you know, Citrus concentrate, you know, and there was a
rotary phone and that was about all that was going

(58:54):
on at home, and so you had to go out.
You couldn't.

Speaker 6 (58:58):
There was no.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Tender, there was no you had to go. You want
to meet every single That's why every single one of
our parents met outside the house or you know outside
you know, like at a bar or some sort of
an event. But now people stay home, so.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Right, and now they're going to build robots that act
as romantic partners.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
So we're headed toward a certain.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Right, right, So it's not the whole this whole security
infrastructure can't be about these They can't be about crime.
So like you just think for a second and you think, well,
what's it about. It's about dissent. I mean, that's all
it's about. It's about like, it's about like nobody's going
to protest. I mean they don't care. They don't want

(59:45):
to kick the shit out of people. They just want
to get to a point where I mean they also
like to shit kick the shit out of people, but
they really just want to get to a point where
no one will protest the data center, no one will
want to tax the rich full control what they want.
And it's so obvious now, And that's what's what makes

(01:00:07):
life so sad because because that was supposed to be
you know that that was something we were warned about
so much so that makes me sad, Like we were vote,
we were told over and over not to let this happen,
you know, and we're not supposed to have ring cameras.
I understand everybody has ring cameras and ring cameras are bad.
I mean, they're just bad. I mean, I know it

(01:00:28):
makes it easier to not get up and answer the door,
but the price you pay for that is those ring
cameras are tied into networks, and those networks are the
same networks that have your license plate number and the
places you visit on the internet. And then next thing,
you know, you're not going to criticize Israel. That's the
end of that. I mean, that's what the endgame here is.
The endgame here is not to necessarily hurt people. The

(01:00:52):
endgame here is to be able to take over Gaza
without anybody saying anything and without anybody pushing back. And
that's just a hard time to be live, I think,
to see that happening, and to see the New York
Times sort of not sort of actually participating in it
and not reporting on this correctly.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Right, And I don't think you and I when we
were doing the podcast and we first joked about chet
GPT and twenty twenty four, I think it was or
twenty you know, just a few years ago, that now
we'd be looking at data centers that were fifty acres large.
I mean, I didn't see that coming, like multiple ones

(01:01:33):
of that side.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Oh yeah, it's not fifty acres.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
It's like, yeah, it is fifty acres.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Which one the one in Nashville or the one I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Just looked it up.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
I said, what's a huge data center? They said it
might span twenty to fifty acres.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Oh well, I just I'm thinking about the one that
the world's largest, one that Kevin O'Leary has proposed in Utah,
which is forty thousand acres.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Oh Mega campuses, says.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Yeah, campuses. Yeah, it's like so funny. That was like
the first thing that we should have realized when they
start calling everything on campus, you know, they.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Shouldn't forty thousand acres. All right, So obviously other countries
will be not have the land. The United States have
at least some of them. So I think Japan is
trying to do one that's floating in the sea. But
I said to my my girlfriend's really intelligent son.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
I was like, why do they have to be this large?
I was like, do you know?

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
And he said, well, because they have to process the
entire Internet. Yeah, and that's that's the only Internet I've
come up with yet. So if you know a different answer,
But I know that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
They're just they're they're just having to do yeah, unbelievable processing.
So when you ask when you ask AI, like when
Google replaces their search with AI, like their old search
was like fairly simple because it brought up results that

(01:03:10):
were created by users, so the search would be pretty simple.
It's like a search file search. But now it's like
creating even if it's using that same information, it's recreating
it through a exhaustive search of the whole Internet, so that, yeah,
the AI process is going to give you the same result,
and probably a flawed result because when you use Google

(01:03:33):
the old way, it just brought up the top result
which would be probably the truest result because of popularity.
You would just you know, Wikipedia would come up because
that's pretty reliable.

Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
But now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
They're starting the search with a whole new thing where
it's like, oh, every time you ask AI something, it's
like searching just a giant amount of information and coming
up with like usually kind of a fucked up answer
because it's drawing from all the unpopular searches as well,
so it's bringing up this sort of flawed result but
with a huge, huge, huge exponential growth of actual computing power,

(01:04:09):
and that heats up these chips and so they need water.
And that's why these data centers use so much water.
It's an insane thing. It's not a better, it's not
a better. The only thing it helps is, uh, well
it replaces people with with I mean your you're I
mean it doesn't. I've just changed the subject sort of.

(01:04:32):
But but but basically that's why this.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
No one knows what happened, No one knows what's going
to happen. You can't say what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Well, they want it to be. Every expert says, it's
about surveillance. All it is is about it's well, it's
about two things, job replacement and surveillance. It's not about creativity.
That's you know, making pictures and things like that. That's
part of it. But the overriding thing is to be
able to process all the license plate numbers, all the
internet searches, all the pictures of every American city, and

(01:05:00):
so there's a file on everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Yes, and I'd agree that that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Like that's every expert says that every expert out and
that you know, next experts are not the CEOs of
the I love that they consider experts, like the media
considers experts to be the CEOs of the of the
AI companies. Those aren't experts. Those are salespeople, so they
interview them all the time. But if you ask an expert,

(01:05:25):
they say, oh, this is all about surveillance. This is
about this is the world's largest surveillance machine meant to
squash dissent. This is going to make sure that they
know exactly the political affiliation and home address, and face
and voice of every single person in America and the world,
so they can figure out who to keep an eye on,

(01:05:49):
or at a certain point just to actually snatch off
the street anybody who they look at and say, oh,
this person's a threat, this person's posted, they don't like
AI centers, this person's posted, they don't like Israel or
whatever it is, and they just get picked up and
that I don't know when that decision gets made, but
we're already seeing practice runs. And ICE is basically to
condition us for if we're okay with like being told

(01:06:15):
it's just gonna be violent criminals, and then we actually
are like find out it's all gonna be moms uh,
And they're gonna be raped, and they're gonna be fed
food with maggots in them, and we don't do anything.
Then it's not gonna be too far before the first
people are put in for saying they don't like data centers,
but they'll call them violent. I mean, just wear people down,

(01:06:35):
you know, like gradually, until until anybody can be put
in a camp and nobody will do anything. I mean,
it's just it's just one oh one, except it's a
global project. It's not just Germany this time. It's not
just the Nazis. It's a Nazi movement that's encompassing the
whole globe. It's a techno Nazi movement. That's that's that's

(01:06:56):
why when you get to interview set Sam Altman and
you're polite to them, you've already lost a whole plot.
Sam Altman's a terrible person. He's a dangerous, horrible, violent person.
He's a ar you know, he's not somebody that should
be greeted with any level of politeness. He should be
grilled incessantly about why he has the fucking nerve to well,

(01:07:16):
it's not even that, it's like he should be in jail.
I mean, this is not a movement that's that's aimed
at helping people. This is a movement aimed at hurting people.
AI is a movement to hurt people. So it's it's like,
these guys are just.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Well, I think it makes sense if you're thinking of
it as a big calculator a full of personal information,
because there's eight billion people on the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
I just looked it up, and that's not a lot
of people to keep track of.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
For a supercomputer, right, or a mega super AI computer
can easily figure out the personality.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Of each eight billion, each of the eight billion.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
So I can see now why you're talking more about
your posts and what the information you're putting out there
into the machine, because it will come back in your
face and you're thinking about that more often.

Speaker 6 (01:08:03):
Though.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Oh yeah, I mean I don't when I think of AI,
I don't think necessarily of the security state.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
But I don't think you're wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I think you're well, I'm not I didn't necessarily think that.
I thought it was about it's also about replacing jobs. Yeah, definitely,
it's about those two things. But it's definitely not about
making your life better, right, That's the part that they
like to get away with saying they're not even very
convincing about it though, Like that documentary I saw that
we talked about on the show how I became apocal optimist.

(01:08:32):
I mean, they they don't really devote much energy into
trying to explain how it's gonna make things better. They
just say it's gonna make something, make things unexpected and exciting.
But they don't really get into how anybody's gonna have money.
And when they try and talk about it, they don't
really even bother to. They don't even really bother to.

(01:08:54):
They've already got all the money in the world, so
they don't have to like sell at that hardcore. But
they let's be like, oh yeah, like you're just gonna
be able to do whatever we want, or you know,
maybe we're gonna have universal basic income. And now Sam
Altman's backing off, like he's like, well, I don't want
to give this just he just recently said this, like
I don't want to give basic income. You don't want
to give that to people because then they won't have

(01:09:14):
any reason to be alive, and like we want people
to be motivated anyway, It's just like there's not gonna
be universal basic income. There's not gonna be anything, and
uh and and uh they don't have a plan for
it because they don't care. So it's just it's just
not a great time to be alive if you like

(01:09:37):
the truth at all.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
And yeah, well also it's as big as you know,
the Industrial Age, the dawning of that, or it's bigger, right,
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
The Industrial Age they only had a Yeah, they didn't
have all the money. They had some they had a
pretty good amount of money, so they could build a
pretty big factory. But they couldn't be like I couldn't
be like, hey, we're gonna put a bunch of AI
servers in space. Like that's another thing like Sam Altman's like, whoa,
there is an idea to put them in space?

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Well that was Musk's idea.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yeah, but like yeah, that's like Henry Ford like makes
Henry Ford look like a like a loser, Like Henry
Ford wasn't like maybe we should put our car assembly
lines in space. Yeah, like this is a whole new
but it's so good that fucking the good news is
that goddamn Blue Origin blew up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Oh my god, that was an incredible book.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
So great, and that screwed up their whole because they
don't really have, Like, they just throw money at people
they don't really Elon Musk is a scientist, and neither
is fucking Jeff Bezos, and neither is Sam Altman. They're
just like people paying people to do stuff, and all
the people who are working for them have to hate them.
I mean, there's no doubt about that. There's no doubt

(01:10:57):
about it. Every engineer who thought they were gonna be
doing something constructive working for like a box shipping company,
and the deranged, fake jawed owner who wants to just
build rockets that he doesn't even he's not even a
rocket scientist, and has the nerve to sit in interviews
next to a rocket that he doesn't even know how
it works or anything. Like, you imagine how hostile the

(01:11:18):
engineers are. I'm sure they blow up that rocket on purpose,
one hundred. I mean they're not. There's no way I
was in.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
It was a huge That was a huge whoopee cushion.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
I'm not kidding, like you think there wasn't somebody there.
I was like, I'm not fucking sending this. And they
also know what they're gonna be used for. You know,
these rockets are for some horrible idea, like they're gonna
end up delivering like more chips to the AI server
that takes away the scientist's job. So like, there's no
fucking way that they didn't blow that fucking thing up.
That's my opinion. My opinion is that somebody in that

(01:11:51):
because I was in baym A. Loom's headquarters. Who oh yeah,
I'm a Grandma Zoom. I used to work in the
headquarters in Nashville, the the Bama ZAM headquarters package Delivery Empire,

(01:12:14):
And everybody in there is pissed off at Jeff Bezos
because they know that this is not what they wanted
to become engineers for. They did not want to become
engineers to find out how to make a robot that
can suck packages onto its hands, which is they have

(01:12:35):
in the shop. Because I talked to the guys, it's
some kind of machine that because I was like, how
do they stick the suction cups to the boxes, because
you know, anybody who's ever had a suction cup like
as a kid, Like you know when you shoot the
darts with a suction cup on the end.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Yeah, Like they.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Won't stick to a box. So I was like, how
do this? How does this robot suck the suck the
put the suction cups on the boxes that it's picking up.
And they're like, oh, it uses vacuum. It's not a
it's not a suction cump. It's a vacuum. It's a
powerful vacuum that picks up the so strong it picks
up the box by sucking it to the tentacle, you know,

(01:13:13):
And you know that's irritating. That's that's that's irritating to
be around. It's irritating to see something using that much
energy when your personal electric bill costs a lot. See
some some guy who has a bunch of robots that
have so much suction power they can pick up giant boxes,

(01:13:35):
Like that's just guaranteed to be Like somebody along the
way is going to say, I want to make these
things catch on fire. I'm gonna put a chip in
it that makes it catch on fire. I don't want
to devote my all my dreams as a child of
being a very important scientist. I don't want to make
people get a wrench five minutes after they order it.

(01:13:58):
That's not what I got this for. And I don't
want this guy I don't want to give this guy
a rocket so him and his rich friends can put
on cowboy hats and do Instagram videos while they orbit
the earth. Yeah, God, this cobrew finally worked.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
But it's you know, that's why the kid went into
the warehouse and burned all the toilet paper up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
That is it. Guy's not a kid, but I like
him to call him the kid. He was a kid.
He's a kid when he does that, and that's nice.
The kid like a good Billy the kid, although Billy
the Kid was bad. But yeah, yeah, I mean like
it's yeah and Luigi and like that's that's what they are.
That's what AI is designed to prevent. It's designed to prevent.

(01:14:44):
What they know is is it's so boring to say it.
I say it every week now, but it's they know
what the problem is with hoarding all this money, and
it makes people very angry at them, and they have
to do something about that. So it helps if they
get the police involved, and the police are on their side.

(01:15:08):
So I don't know how the police also, like who
started out, probably seeing like anybody who's a policeman probably
thought they were probably gonna do some good stuff, not
just stand in front of some prison where a private
prison where they're serving people maggots, and beat people who
are trying to get them to be not served maggots,
especially when everybody in that prison isn't like a criminal

(01:15:29):
at all. It's like just people like who overstayed their visas.
How did you get the police involved in beating the
hell out of people who are trying to get people
who overstayed their visas to be fed something besides maggots.
I mean, that's a journey, you know, and we need
them to snap out of it. So this is all
the police that listen to our show. All you policemen

(01:15:53):
to listen to the show. The people who are trying
to get the people who over stayed there visa to
get some food that doesn't have maggots in it. They're
the good guys, not the private prison. The Geo Group
is the name of that private prison, and their stocks

(01:16:13):
are rocketing. Speaking of rockets, So uh, that's the that's
the good news sort of it. Yeah. I don't know

(01:16:34):
what else else I have going. I think we set
the tone of this show by mistake early. But you
saw it said something about movies.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
Yeah, I had not much to contribute other than people
are excited about back rooms and obsession to indie movies
that are taking over the box office and reinvigorating the industry.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Yeah, I heard about back rooms. I don't know anything
about this movie, but I heard it's about some I
don't know what it's about, but it's by somebody young
that apparently twenty done by It's it's supposed to be good, right.

Speaker 4 (01:17:18):
And he says, I will never use a AI in
my films. Why would I put tripe like that in life?

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
I think I saw that interview with him, which I mean, like, yeah,
I give him. I mean, like anyway, anybody who doesn't
say that is out of there. I mean, like again,
we're we're giving people credit for the basics here.

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
You know, Yeah, you shouldn't that Even that seems valuable
because all you hear is like Sam Altman saying this,
and you see, then you hear the guy from Anthropics
say that, and so you want to hear the guy
from a back room say something else.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Yeah, Well, I mean Daniel Ek or whatever his name
is from from he should be called Eke like a mouse,
Daniel Eek who runs at of Spotify. You know, saying that,
or maybe it was another guy who ran Title or
it was like one of the lower guys, like one
of the executives at Spotify, saying that people were tired

(01:18:16):
of making music because it's a pain in the ass,
like that making music so pain to make, and you know,
the entire world pushed back against it. But still he's
the one who got to talk to the New York
Times or wherever whoever he was talking about like some
sort of you know, like he stood in front of
one of those backdrops that says like Vogue and like

(01:18:40):
General Electric and the General Electric doesn't exist anymore, I
don't think, but you know, like those those things where
they sit and they get interviewed by by like some
journalists from the New York Times, and it's in front
of a backdrop that says GQ on it or whatever,
and it's like some symposium and they always interview like
the biggest monster in the world, and they say stuff
like people are tired of making music and like instead

(01:19:02):
of the I mean, we just need to be interviewing
different people than we're interviewing. Uh. But but anyway, the
pushback was like, are you out of your fucking mind?
I mean, we're not. Art is not something that we
that we that's a hassle. Art is like a way

(01:19:29):
of life that's different than capital. It's not like capital.
Artists aren't capitalists who are just like who don't know
how to use AI or Artists aren't just people who
are like, oh, I don't know how to do stuff faster,
Like I want to make music, but I don't know
how to do it a fast way, right or I

(01:19:50):
could I was there some way I could. Artists are
just people who don't know about technology would be there,
There are there, they're you know from their standpoint, like
pitching AI like this will make it so you don't
have to even make the art like you because I
know you're just the only reason you're making art in
such a long way is because you don't know how
to do it the short way. That's that's not a

(01:20:13):
real argument. There's no there's no people who are doing that.
People don't make art for People make art because it's fun.
And the whole point of being alive is supposed to
be to have fun and love each other and and
and die gracefully. But these guys have come up with
a whole alternate way of living life, which is absolutely horrible.
And they they're the ones who get all the spaces

(01:20:35):
to be interviewed about life. So everyone's being convinced that
life is this horrible thing where we're all mad, we
have to make music and and you know, it's just
we need to be interviewing different people's That's that's just
the fact of the matter. And I hold I hold
the rich kids who are running the New York Times
in the Atlantic responsible for interviewing only other rich kids.

(01:20:59):
That's my true position on that, Like, go outside your
fucking bubble. You know, you guys are are not casting
a wide enough net. I mean you're not casting it anywhere.
You're casting at one desk over usually like, hey do
you know someone I can interview for this article, and
they're like, oh yeah, my friend who went to Princeton

(01:21:19):
is like the you know, uh, you know, it's it's
it's it's you know, don't stop looking around the rich
for your perspectives.

Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
I'm thinking, like, uh, ai, is is the gas pedal
that we don't need? You know, because I when we
since I was, you know, a few years ago, I've
been saying things move so fricking fast and to and
to to ill effect. Right, I've been saying that, and this,
this is just going to put the gas pedal all

(01:21:57):
the way to the floor. And it's no wonder there's
so much heat and so much cost for these data centers,
because that's what it's gonna do. It requires all that
gasoline to make everything move faster, which we don't need.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Everyone suffers because life is moving so fast.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
I think, yeah, it's really it's really really dumb, and
it's the dumbest moment in human history.

Speaker 5 (01:22:26):
Uh wait a second, it really is. So start up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Frozen lemonade. Stand. I guess I don't even know what
frozen lemonade is. I guess I do know, but it's
not it's not something I know. I mean, I don't
ever have it. I don't. I guess it's something that
you get it, like like the Nashville scene. When they
put up my column today, they just put a picture

(01:23:03):
of people getting frozen lemonade at the baseball game. So
I guess it's something that I'm just not really aware of.
I don't come across frozen lemonade very often, very often, if.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Ever, well, if they have it at Disney World.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
They cost twenty dollars a drink.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Yeah, I mean yeah, Like also, yeah, if I'm gonna
spend money on something that costs, like a drink that
costs a lot of money, it's gonna be colbrew because, uh,
what about frozen gets you where you're going? Frozen cold
brew is a great idea. That's why I think probably
people have done it. I mean without a doubt they have,

(01:23:46):
but yeah, they haven't done it. They haven't marketed it
to me successfully enough. They should tell me how to
get it, because I would fucking totally yeah. Like I mean, oh, well,
Dutch Dutch Bros. Or whatever were Dutch Brothers. They have
some frozen shit that I'll get if I'm having a
bad day, or I'll sometimes go down to Dutch Brothers

(01:24:07):
without telling anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Are you serious?

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
Yeah? Get get an annihilator. You get a frozen annihilator
and it's like just a disgusting, chocolatey milkshake thing. It's
like a foot and a half tall, and it has
like four shots of espresso in it, and you feel
like you feel like a god king for forty minutes,
and then you feel like a fucking dirt pile for

(01:24:31):
the rest of your life. But I do it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
I know that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Yeah, I do it. I do it every now and then.
So if you want, I mean, seriously, if you want
to feel like a god king for twenty minutes, get
an annihilator, a frozen annihilator I got. I made the
mistake of getting an annihilator, like without getting it frozen,
just cold, you know, on the on the rocks, and
that's just so much milk. It's just so, it's just

(01:24:55):
a ton of milk. So that was I didn't go
back but and ask for a different one. So I
just live with it. But yeah, frozen annihilator. You want
to feel good for a bit of time at Dutch bros.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
Yeah, holler, holla.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Yeah, Dutch bros. Man, why don't you sponsor us? Man?
I would love if you gave me an annihilator a week.
This show would never be sad. I'd be sad after
the show, like podcast hosts are supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
You know, Mike cole Brew's working. If I'm saying halla.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
It's true, I don't have my bell ding. Oh I
didn't do the loading dock report.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Oh well, all right, let's do that real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
No, it doesn't matter. Loading dock report. This week is
just like uh uh, I don't remember what it is,
but it was. It was a fine week of delivering things,
all right. I gotta go and.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Listen to the song of the week.

Speaker 5 (01:25:54):
Listen to uh.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
I mean, support the Patreon if you can, Patreon dot com,
ash Chris crofton and channel check out channel fiction. And
I wanted to say we have a new Patreon member.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Nice, so grateful for that. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Thank you Sumo fangirl. Nice And uh yeah I think
we are Yeah, I already thank you Sumo fangirl for
joining the Patreon. We appreciate it very much. And song
of the week, I don't know, did you have one
in mind?

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
Well, if you would accept some Jason Molina?

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Yeah, which one? We just did one of his though,
didn't we? I know?

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
I know, so no I don't then, Oh no, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
But what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
It is wondrous Love?

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
Okay. Song of the week is Wondrous Love by Jason Molina.
We'll see you soon. Thanks for listening to Colbrew got.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Me like, what wondrous love is?

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
This soul?

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
My soul, oh, my soul. What wondrous love is?

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
This so my soul.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
What wondrous love is this b cause the Lord of
bless to bear the dreadful curse for my soul, For
my soul,

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