June 27, 2023 • 29 mins
What evidence did the prosecution have against Luis? In this episode of CRASH Luis talks about the prosecution's case against him and how not only did the prosecutors not believe in him but the police and even his own lawyer thought he was guilty.
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And all the facting is that thatthat whole team a rampart, that it
was really nothing man like, likethat was barely even the kick of the
icebreak, you know, and theygotta wait with it. Look to the
man, no trouble. I don'twant to be man. I just want
five big man like me. Noneed for the telephone hide. I got
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too much online and my community.Well, I want to talk about what
the case was. You know,what the prosecution had against me, you
know, their evidence and all that. So basically, I think that from
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the very beginning, you know,the officers in their mind, it was
like it was an open and shutcase. You know, it was an
easy case, like we got thisguy right here and then we're gonna make
a stick, you know. SoI don't believe that they really bothered doing
a full on the investigation. Ithink they just said, or I would
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got this guy's and that's that,you know, because if if they would
have actually done something, I believeit would have came out, you know,
it would have came out, Adescription would have would have came out.
There could have been some witnesses,there could have been there could have
been maybe some some phone calls.Maybe somebody has called nine one, you
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know, I don't know, butthere really was no investigation done whatsoever.
So from the very beginning, likethey said, you know, they just
said, whatever reason, they justsaid, you know, this is it,
man, They're sticking to this guy. And that's that. I mean,
they obviously had arrested after you know, but for whatever reason, they
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gave him a DA reject, whichI never really understood, know that it
was from the very very beginning,the very first day to try of court.
You know, he receives a DAreject and they only they only charged
me, you know, So Isaid, I didn't really know what what
exactly they had until a few monthslater when you know, my lawyer finally
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gets the police report and and they'retelling they're telling us that, you know,
the victim, the victim talked tothe officers and that the victim pointed
me out in the infield show up, and that they had recovered some bullets
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that were in my car, andthat they had found a showcasing that matched
the bullets on the street, andthat they had found a like a small
fragment of a bullet. In fact, the seat of William's truck on the
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floorboard, and they had some pictures. So when I'm in the right after
court, you know, the lawyercomes to seeing me in the tank.
So I'm behind glasses stuff. Sohe's showing me the police reports. He's
showing me the pictures, you know. And I just remember in one of
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the pictures where there's a supposedly there'sa showcasing, you can't even really see
the showcasing, and it kind oflooked like it was flat, like it
had been ran over so and itlooked like it was in the girder.
So by the way I tell theI tell my lawyer, I said,
well, I just I just happenedto read in the La Times there was
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this incident that occurred when the officerskilled a thirteen year old black kid.
Right, this kid, I guesshe spole a car and the officers they
said that they feared, they werea fear of their life, right because
of the kid. I guess hebacked up and there was officers behind them,
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but not directly behind them, andthey just shot and they killed them.
So I remember reading the story andthey were talking about how they were
reconstructing the scene based on the showcasings, and that from the position of the
showcasing, they determined that the officerwas never in danger, that the officer
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was not in the path of thecar like he wouldn't he would have never
been hit by that car because ofwhere he was standing when he shot.
And I stuck to my head,you know, So I told the I
told the the lawyer. I waslike, well, maybe we could do
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that. Maybe you could you coulddetermine you know, where that where the
person will ending that shot, thatthat show keeps based on where that show
keeping is at. You know,they kind of get a trying to get
a better idea if it's even relevantto the case. Because the whole entire
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that block, you know, Isaid, it's it's a long block.
It's pretty much three streets long fromThird Street to sixth Streets, and there's
an active block. You know,there's gang members they're twenty four seven,
and there's groups. You know,you get them all scattered through out that
whole block, and there's constant youknow, shootings, and there's you know,
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like I said, there's guys thatcome in looking for these game members,
you know, trying to kill killthem. So you know, there's
numerous there's numerous incidents at all termsand it's a very busy street also that
they're there's very lively. You know, there's always people outside. You know.
They got these little fruit trucks,ice cream trucks, and taco trucks,
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you know, so there's always peopleout there. Yeah, I kind
of wanted to either determine if thatwas even a factor, because they had
no idea how long that had actuallybeen there. You know, it could
have been there all week long.It could have been there a few days.
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You know, they don't know.So that's what I'm trying to tell
my lawyer, like, Okay,yeah, it does look bad, you
know, because I do have thesebullets in my car, and they come
up with the showcasing, you know. And I'm telling my lawyer too.
And I looked those bullets that Ihad in my car. I had just
boughted them. They were brand new, they were they were in the box,
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they were inside a bag. Ithink it was from Big five,
Big five pag And I even stillhad the receipt right there. So I
had told my lawyer, you know, as he could go and look for
that receipt because it had just barelypurchased him. They were baron new and
the only reason that I had themwas because someone had asked me to buy
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them some bullets, you know,And I said, this person, I
knew him for a long time andI know how it is, you know,
and so maybe I shouldn't have doneit, but I did. I
went, I bought the bullets forhim, and I had him there.
I hadn't gave them to him yet, but they were brand new in the
box. I just bready got them. So I was trying to tell him,
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like trying to find the receipt becauseit was in the car. It
was in the bag with the mostangel anything. And they will be meditated
and included. And my father.When my father had gone to go get
my right because they didn't founded thevehicle, they went into this tour yard,
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so you know right away, mydad had gone and to take out
whatever personal possessions I had, andhe took everything out of the car,
and he had told the lawyer thathe found some more bullets, you know,
He told them that he found morebullets when when he went to take
everything out, and the lawyer justtold one, look, you're his dad.
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So it's not gonna look good,so they're not They're not gonna they're
probably not gonna believe it, sowe're not even going to bring it up.
So I saw, I was like, man, what do you mean?
You know, you should bring itup regardless, because that that goes
to show like, um, theywere saying that there was bullets missing,
and the d was saying that allthose bullets must have been in the gun,
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but in reality was that those thosebullets were in the car and my
dad found them. So when whenI was in that high speed chase,
you know, like obviously everything's gettinggetting tossed around. So when they opened
up my trunk, there's a there'sa picture where you can see everything just
tossed up everywhere and you can seebullets around, you know. So they
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said that they took all the allthe bullets out, but I would see
they didn't because my father had foundsome. So that was one of the
things. And then the other thingwas this small little fragment that they found
inside the victim's car, and there'sa picture of the floor and it's just
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dirty, like straight up dirty bunchers. I don't know, sam dirt,
trash like there's just a bunch ofcrap on over and I don't see no
fragment on the picture. It saidthat this is a picture of a fragment,
but I don't see nothing, soI have no clue like how big
it is or how small it is. But Communia again that picture, you
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can't even see it, you know, And I never actually saw all the
fragments, so I don't know.But they were saying that it was a
small little fragment and that it wasit was copper, So they don't tell.
My Lord too, is like,well they don't. How are they
going to determine how long that thing'sbeen in this truck, you know,
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how long has it been there,or if it even is a piece of
a bullet because from the pictures,like I couldn't see nothing, so it
must have been very very small.So I didn't know that it's even that,
you know. And I remember inthe trial the expert was basically saying
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like there was no way of determiningwhat exactly it was, you know,
all they could do was make educatedguess, you know, And and originally
that's what they have said. Theysaid that it could be a piece from
a tenman then or they never saidanything about it being a fourty four until
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the second trial, when you know, they changed, they changed the experts,
and they got the expert to saythat it was a forty four.
Another another picture that the Voyer showedme. It was showing William's truck.
You know, this little white Chevyas ten man. It's the picture of
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the windshield and on the windshield youcan see a bullet hole. So I'm
telling my lawder. I was like, okay, you know, the DA
is trying to say that I shotusing a forty four caliber. So like
when there's a bullet hole right here, and you know, I've I've obviously
I've watched the CSI and on allthese cop shows and all this and that,
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right, so I'm thinking in mymind, well, you know they
got the bullet hole. They musthave measured it, right. I mean
I've seen pictures of them like wherethey had a little ruler right next to
the next to the bullet hole.But there's all all that I've seen on
TV. So I figured it's alltrue, it's real. So I tell
my lordal Wall this is just thepicture. It's not even they're not even
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measuring the whole or nothing. SoI'm telling them all, can we get
this, Can we try to getthis examined. Can we try to figure
out if they can determine the caliberthe bullet from the whole, you know,
because in my mind I'm thinking wasif it's a forty four, it's
going to be a big, bighole, you know, So that,
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I mean, I'm pretty sure thereshould be a way to determine it.
So I'm telling my lord of that, you know, try to try to
find out how we could do thatto determine if if it has that evidence
to show the evidence that it isa forty four or if it's a different
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caliber, you know. So thatwas another thing. And then that was
basically all the physical evidence, youknow. Everything else was was just circumstantial
that they were just obviously they saidthat the victim at the very beginning gave
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them the statement and that when thatdid the Infidel show up, that the
victim pointed me out and said,yes, that's him. But everything else
they didn't have no actual like eyewitnessesto say yeah, we see what happened,
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And they didn't have no no likefor cause or anything like from my
we one and saying hey, therewas a shooter. I heard describing the
suspects. There was never They neverintroduced anything on like dispatched the radio or
anything talking about there was a shootingand we have these suspects, and you
know, given the description, theydidn't give nothing. Then what I kind
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of found weird is that in thepolice support they never say anything about it
discription. They never say that.If they even ask for a description,
you never say anything about that.So you know, I'm telling my loader
life it wasn't me, and thisis what I was wearing. And because
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I was wearing this blue jacket withthese reflecting stripes on a long lines,
I figured, well, that's somethingthat's pre recognizable, you know, like
that's something that you're gonna remember.You're not gonna you're not gonna forget.
Maybe you might not remember the color, but you might remember that you know,
Okay is a dark and that ithas these white stripes, these reflecting
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stripes. So I'm telling my loaderlife, well, there's gotta be a
way. Maybe we could go andtry to find some witnesses, because like
I said, it's a very livelystreet, and maybe we could get a
description, like because I know thatit wasn't me. I was I was
sitting cars. So there's no waythat somebody's going to say that they saw
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they saw me, they saw mymy description, my clothing, you know.
So I asked them, like weshould try to get the any kind
of nine one one records to seeif there's any phone calls, if anybody
called the police that night, whichyou know, I wouldn't doubt that somebody
did, so as I told themthat, I told him try to look
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for any kind of police phone call, any nine one one calls to determine
if anybody, you know, madea description. And another thing I had
asked them oil was to get thecommunication, the radio communication the dispatch could
because they have to believe they haveto keep a copy of all that.
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So if they ever said anything abouta description on the radio, you know,
if dispatcher called it in, orif the officers called it in because
the officers said there, you know, they pulled over. When they pulled
over William, they spoke to him. So you know, I would think
protocol is once you speaks to him, the very very first thing you're going
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to ask is who shan't you?What did the person look like? Give
us a description and then go onthe radio and put that description out there
and tell the other officers they werelooking for this for this suspect, and
he's a mantle, he's a Hispanic, he's this, he's all, he's
shaved, whatever that description is goingto be. So I tell my lawder
the same thing, as try andget those reports. You know, we
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should be able to get those communicationreports. And then the other thing.
All the officers that that show up, they all have to write I think
it's called a daily field activity report. Every single alcer has to write one
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whenever they respond to anything. SoI was telling him as well, will
you should try to get all thosereports for every single officer because in the
police report, it's only one officerand that's it. It's just the officer
Rona. They took the rolla right, he's the only one saying anything in
this in this police report. Butwe didn't. We didn't get nothing from
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the other officers. We didn't getnone of the other officers reports. We
didn't get they give Domingus report,the one that that testifying about the pursuit.
You know, we didn't get OkaysonHadler's report, the one that testifies
saying that he don't he don't rememberseeing the doors open or the light or
them shining lights on me. Wedidn't get his report, We didn't get
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Officer Badar's report. We didn't getnone of the officers reports, none of
them. We only we only gotthe Texas report, you know. So
I'm telling the lawyer, well,we need to end everybody's report. We
need to see if they all havethe same story or what. You know.
Well, this lawyer, same thing. Man, he did not do
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an investigation. He didn't bother doingan investigation. And I think because from
the very beginning, either this guyfelt that he didn't want to do anything
from my case. Maybe he hadcame up to an agreement with the DA,
because I hear about that all thetime, or these lawyers make deals
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with the DA. You know,you can have this case, just give
me, let me get this case. You know. So it felt like
this dude like really really didn't donothing for me, and like he didn't
even try, you know. Butyeah, that was that was that was
most of the evidence that they wereusing, you know, And I think
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it was mainly due because they likesaid they had no they had no like
they didn't want to investigate. They'rejust like, oh, let's open the
shut simple, let's getting related.You know, we got this game member,
we got that game umber, andthat's that. You know. They
didn't bother looking into it at all. Yeah, So, you know,
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mister Lake, I just felt likefrom the very from the very gay,
I don't I don't. I don'tfeel like this guy really believed in me.
I didn't feel like he was reallyyou know, motivated and I really
wanted to help me, you know, because you know when when you have
that so when somebody really believes inyou, and and you can see it
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in their face, like like thisguy really wants to help you, like
he's gonna he's gonna do everything hecan for you. Like and this guy,
I don't know, I just feltlike he was kind of like careless
or whatever, and you know,you know, just trying to get the
trying to get the lineup. Likethis guy was arguing with me to not
do the lineup. You know,It's like, come on, manly,
like, of course I want theline up. I'm innocent. I'm not
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worried about getting pointed out. Iknow I'm not gonna get pointed out because
I'm innocent, but this guy's arguingwith me for that, you know,
and then the other stuff, youknow, like one of the one of
the big things. It was likethe picture's motion, you know, because
the picture's motion is for you tobe able to get any record on the
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officers, if they have any kindof misconduct, if they have any disciplinary
anything like that, that will show, you know, because I wanted to
show that these cops were lying specificallyabout that infield show up, because the
whole prostitution really really was based onthat, and that infield show up,
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you know, um by then sayingthat he that he identified me, and
you know, I know that Iwas only there for a matter of seconds,
you know, and and I andI very clearly heard when the officer
yelled out, it's too late toget him out of here, and I
got right back in the car.So I really wanted to follow that pitch
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and you know, hope that Iwould find something. Maybe someone else complained
about him, maybe somebody else followedsomething on him, saying that this to
live, he planted evidence, hefalsified evidence, anything, you know,
anything, then the lower City wouldbut he never did. He never followed
that, you know. You know. Another thing that I had asked him
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too, was like, a wasI think an eyewitness expert, right,
and I witness expert to to speakon the circumstances you know, the whole
circumstances of William. Okay, ifhe's if he's uh, if he's under
the influence of drugs and alcohol,if he needs glasses, if he's just
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been shy, if he's been inif he's in a lot of pain,
if he's in this type of situation, How credible can in the identification be
if they made an identification, youknow, because the majority of cases of
alterca people is misidentification. Some witnesscomes and says, yeah, that was
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him, that was him, andthey swear to it, and then later
on they say, you know whatnow that I think about it, No,
you know, I just said itbecause of this or that, or
or I thought it was but no, it really wasn't. You know,
Like there's always something man and andit's and it shows there's proofulness, there's
there's the study of it. Youknow, they've they've shown all these exonerations
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and all these universities and all thisstuff. So it's out there it's true.
You know, there's a lot ofmisidentification, whether it's the victim or
whether it's an I witness. Soyou know, I thought that would be
something good, you know, butyeah, this this this lattery. He
really did nothing, no no typeof investigation. You know, he could
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have said he could have gone goneand looked for the nine o one cost,
could have gone and looked for everysingle officer involved in the ins and
every single officer has to ride upreport in a daily field activity report.
He could have got that. Youknow. There there were so many things
that he could have done, justbasic stuff, you know, but he
didn't do nothing. And yeah,I just felt like he never really believed
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in me, and he just hethought I was guilty. And I think
that he actually just gave my caseover to the DA. I think that
he used me and a couple otherguys as as as like bargaining chips.
You know, he's like, hey, you can have these guys, but
let me get these guys off,because like I said, I was in
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the county and I ran into severalguys that he was their attorney. But
they all had one thing in common. The majority of one was from eighteen
Street, and then it was meand a couple other guys who weren't from
Ageing Street and we're the ones thatwe lost our cases, and the guys
from Aging Street, you know,they were going home. At the time,
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I felt like that was kind offunny, you know, But you
know, now that I think aboutit's like, yeah, man, I
think more likely did he did useas a bargain class bargaining chips and he
made a deal with DA. Andwhen they say a go, hey Bill
roll him. Man, I'm notgonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna defend
him, gonna do shit. Andthe DA even on his closing argument,
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he was even saying, oh,you're the lawyer. Doesn't even believe him,
Like the lawyers not even fighting forhim and not even arguing because he
knows that there's nothing he to door say, so even he even like
put him on the spot. Wellyeah, and then also too, like
with the investigating officers, you know, they I felt like they just they
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just wanted to make a stick.You know, Hey, we got this
guy, he's a game member.This guy he game members game related.
Who cares, Let's just make astick, you know, at dinner.
This, let's just make a stick. And now that's that's what that part.
They didn't asked, they did anymeans necessary to get the job done,
right. So it didn't matter whatit was. As long as the
guy got convicted, he got arrested, I saw that. Matter didn't matter
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if he wasn't this, and itdidn't matter if if the evidence was false,
it didn't matter if the cops plannedthe evidence. None of that shit
mattered. The only thing that matteredwas another Mexican gang member off the street,
you know. And you could readon that. You could read all
kinds of stuff about Rampart, allkinds of stuff about how they did there,
what they did, you know,and it's it's a fact. And
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all the sack thing is that thatthat whole team of rampart like it was
really nothing man like, like thatwas barely even the tip of the iceberg.
You know. Then they got awaywith it. They got away with
it because at the end of theday, end, it was sweeping them
the rugs saying hey man, itwas just one cop and he had to
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save himself by making up lines aboutall these other cops. So, you
know, they got away with it. Uh, they ended up paying a
gang of money. Why would youpay millions and millions and millions of dollars
if you're if you're if your policedepartment. It was not corrupt, you
know, but they did. Theypaid a gang of money, and they
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let a lot of people out andall that. But only only like two
officers got convicted. You know.The rest of the officers either they either
reason hind they quit, they gotfired, you know, but none of
them were actually convicted of anything.So just feel like said around those cops.
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They were they were remparted. Theywere our core rempartment. They had
been there since ninety five. Youknow that dude, the dard that did
the that didn't feel show up thatlight about that. He had been there
for years, so he was inthe mix of all that stuff. So
he was around all that. Theother guy had detect the verona, the
same thing. He had been therefor a while. Uh. Todd Turner,
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the gang investigator, he had alsobeen there since nineteen ninety five.
So they were all up in thereduring the whole the whole height of it.
So they saw it, they knewwhat was going on. They more
likely they participated in it. Becauseat the end, and they the majority
of these officers, when they seetheir partner doing something wrong, they turn
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they turned the blind back to it. And it's a fact, man,
you hardly ever see any officer stepin because if they do step in and
they do say something, then theyget they get outcasted. You know.
The cops are like, fucked thisdude, and and and they don't they
don't funk with them, you know. I mean, look at what happened
with them with George Floyd, rightLike the cop is is sitting there killing
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this dude, and these other copspretend like nothing's happened. They just they
they don't. They're not even looking. They're not even acknowledging it. They're
not even telling that. I hey, man, you just can't doesn't look
the man layoff, you know.They don't say shit, right. So
that's that's their culture, man.And there's a lot of stuff going on
right now with the with the lostange of the Sheriff's department to all the
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gangs in the in those sheriffs departments, and there's some kind of big trial
going on and all that stuff iscoming out, man. So all that
stuff is being brought to light,you know, and it's it's true,
man, it's real. These guysfucking they terrorized the streets and they did
a lot of dirty days, andthey got a lot of guys put away
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by any means necessary. So Ifeel like like I was a victim of
that as well, you know.Um, And like you say it from
the outside looking in, you know, you look at the case and and
and just by the evidence and rightoff the bag, you're like, okay,
you know it makes sense. Yeah, I think he's probably guilty.
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But how many times has there beena situation where you think, going away,
man, and because you don't knowall the facts, you have sixty
seconds, it looks like it happeneda certain way, and everybody believes that
happen that way. And then yougo back and you see what really truly
happened, and and there's there's justit didn't happen that way, you know,
And all the facting is that thatthat whole team a rampart, that it
was really nothing man like, likethat was barely even the kick of the
icebreak, you know, and theygotta wait with it. Look to the
man, no trouble. I don'twant to be man. I just want
five big man like me. Noneed for the telephone hide. I got
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too much online and my community.Well, I want to talk about what
the case was. You know,what the prosecution had against me, you
know, their evidence and all that. So basically, I think that from
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the very beginning, you know,the officers in their mind, it was
like it was an open and shutcase. You know, it was an
easy case, like we got thisguy right here and then we're gonna make
a stick, you know. SoI don't believe that they really bothered doing
a full on the investigation. Ithink they just said, or I would
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got this guy's and that's that,you know, because if if they would
have actually done something, I believeit would have came out, you know,
it would have came out, Adescription would have would have came out.
There could have been some witnesses,there could have been there could have
been maybe some some phone calls.Maybe somebody has called nine one, you
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know, I don't know, butthere really was no investigation done whatsoever.
So from the very beginning, likethey said, you know, they just
said, whatever reason, they justsaid, you know, this is it,
man, They're sticking to this guy. And that's that. I mean,
they obviously had arrested after you know, but for whatever reason, they
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gave him a DA reject, whichI never really understood, know that it
was from the very very beginning,the very first day to try of court.
You know, he receives a DAreject and they only they only charged
me, you know, So Isaid, I didn't really know what what
exactly they had until a few monthslater when you know, my lawyer finally
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gets the police report and and they'retelling they're telling us that, you know,
the victim, the victim talked tothe officers and that the victim pointed
me out in the infield show up, and that they had recovered some bullets
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that were in my car, andthat they had found a showcasing that matched
the bullets on the street, andthat they had found a like a small
fragment of a bullet. In fact, the seat of William's truck on the
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floorboard, and they had some pictures. So when I'm in the right after
court, you know, the lawyercomes to seeing me in the tank.
So I'm behind glasses stuff. Sohe's showing me the police reports. He's
showing me the pictures, you know. And I just remember in one of
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the pictures where there's a supposedly there'sa showcasing, you can't even really see
the showcasing, and it kind oflooked like it was flat, like it
had been ran over so and itlooked like it was in the girder.
So by the way I tell theI tell my lawyer, I said,
well, I just I just happenedto read in the La Times there was
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this incident that occurred when the officerskilled a thirteen year old black kid.
Right, this kid, I guesshe spole a car and the officers they
said that they feared, they werea fear of their life, right because
of the kid. I guess hebacked up and there was officers behind them,
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but not directly behind them, andthey just shot and they killed them.
So I remember reading the story andthey were talking about how they were
reconstructing the scene based on the showcasings, and that from the position of the
showcasing, they determined that the officerwas never in danger, that the officer
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was not in the path of thecar like he wouldn't he would have never
been hit by that car because ofwhere he was standing when he shot.
And I stuck to my head,you know, So I told the I
told the the lawyer. I waslike, well, maybe we could do
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that. Maybe you could you coulddetermine you know, where that where the
person will ending that shot, thatthat show keeps based on where that show
keeping is at. You know,they kind of get a trying to get
a better idea if it's even relevantto the case. Because the whole entire
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that block, you know, Isaid, it's it's a long block.
It's pretty much three streets long fromThird Street to sixth Streets, and there's
an active block. You know,there's gang members they're twenty four seven,
and there's groups. You know,you get them all scattered through out that
whole block, and there's constant youknow, shootings, and there's you know,
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like I said, there's guys thatcome in looking for these game members,
you know, trying to kill killthem. So you know, there's
numerous there's numerous incidents at all termsand it's a very busy street also that
they're there's very lively. You know, there's always people outside. You know.
They got these little fruit trucks,ice cream trucks, and taco trucks,
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you know, so there's always peopleout there. Yeah, I kind
of wanted to either determine if thatwas even a factor, because they had
no idea how long that had actuallybeen there. You know, it could
have been there all week long.It could have been there a few days.
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You know, they don't know.So that's what I'm trying to tell
my lawyer, like, Okay,yeah, it does look bad, you
know, because I do have thesebullets in my car, and they come
up with the showcasing, you know. And I'm telling my lawyer too.
And I looked those bullets that Ihad in my car. I had just
boughted them. They were brand new, they were they were in the box,
(06:50):
they were inside a bag. Ithink it was from Big five,
Big five pag And I even stillhad the receipt right there. So I
had told my lawyer, you know, as he could go and look for
that receipt because it had just barelypurchased him. They were baron new and
the only reason that I had themwas because someone had asked me to buy
(07:15):
them some bullets, you know,And I said, this person, I
knew him for a long time andI know how it is, you know,
and so maybe I shouldn't have doneit, but I did. I
went, I bought the bullets forhim, and I had him there.
I hadn't gave them to him yet, but they were brand new in the
box. I just bready got them. So I was trying to tell him,
(07:35):
like trying to find the receipt becauseit was in the car. It
was in the bag with the mostangel anything. And they will be meditated
and included. And my father.When my father had gone to go get
my right because they didn't founded thevehicle, they went into this tour yard,
(07:59):
so you know right away, mydad had gone and to take out
whatever personal possessions I had, andhe took everything out of the car,
and he had told the lawyer thathe found some more bullets, you know,
He told them that he found morebullets when when he went to take
everything out, and the lawyer justtold one, look, you're his dad.
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So it's not gonna look good,so they're not They're not gonna they're
probably not gonna believe it, sowe're not even going to bring it up.
So I saw, I was like, man, what do you mean?
You know, you should bring itup regardless, because that that goes
to show like, um, theywere saying that there was bullets missing,
and the d was saying that allthose bullets must have been in the gun,
(08:46):
but in reality was that those thosebullets were in the car and my
dad found them. So when whenI was in that high speed chase,
you know, like obviously everything's gettinggetting tossed around. So when they opened
up my trunk, there's a there'sa picture where you can see everything just
tossed up everywhere and you can seebullets around, you know. So they
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said that they took all the allthe bullets out, but I would see
they didn't because my father had foundsome. So that was one of the
things. And then the other thingwas this small little fragment that they found
inside the victim's car, and there'sa picture of the floor and it's just
(09:33):
dirty, like straight up dirty bunchers. I don't know, sam dirt,
trash like there's just a bunch ofcrap on over and I don't see no
fragment on the picture. It saidthat this is a picture of a fragment,
but I don't see nothing, soI have no clue like how big
it is or how small it is. But Communia again that picture, you
(09:54):
can't even see it, you know, And I never actually saw all the
fragments, so I don't know.But they were saying that it was a
small little fragment and that it wasit was copper, So they don't tell.
My Lord too, is like,well they don't. How are they
going to determine how long that thing'sbeen in this truck, you know,
(10:16):
how long has it been there,or if it even is a piece of
a bullet because from the pictures,like I couldn't see nothing, so it
must have been very very small.So I didn't know that it's even that,
you know. And I remember inthe trial the expert was basically saying
(10:37):
like there was no way of determiningwhat exactly it was, you know,
all they could do was make educatedguess, you know, And and originally
that's what they have said. Theysaid that it could be a piece from
a tenman then or they never saidanything about it being a fourty four until
(11:00):
the second trial, when you know, they changed, they changed the experts,
and they got the expert to saythat it was a forty four.
Another another picture that the Voyer showedme. It was showing William's truck.
You know, this little white Chevyas ten man. It's the picture of
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the windshield and on the windshield youcan see a bullet hole. So I'm
telling my lawder. I was like, okay, you know, the DA
is trying to say that I shotusing a forty four caliber. So like
when there's a bullet hole right here, and you know, I've I've obviously
I've watched the CSI and on allthese cop shows and all this and that,
(11:46):
right, so I'm thinking in mymind, well, you know they
got the bullet hole. They musthave measured it, right. I mean
I've seen pictures of them like wherethey had a little ruler right next to
the next to the bullet hole.But there's all all that I've seen on
TV. So I figured it's alltrue, it's real. So I tell
my lordal Wall this is just thepicture. It's not even they're not even
(12:09):
measuring the whole or nothing. SoI'm telling them all, can we get
this, Can we try to getthis examined. Can we try to figure
out if they can determine the caliberthe bullet from the whole, you know,
because in my mind I'm thinking wasif it's a forty four, it's
going to be a big, bighole, you know, So that,
(12:31):
I mean, I'm pretty sure thereshould be a way to determine it.
So I'm telling my lord of that, you know, try to try to
find out how we could do thatto determine if if it has that evidence
to show the evidence that it isa forty four or if it's a different
(12:52):
caliber, you know. So thatwas another thing. And then that was
basically all the physical evidence, youknow. Everything else was was just circumstantial
that they were just obviously they saidthat the victim at the very beginning gave
(13:15):
them the statement and that when thatdid the Infidel show up, that the
victim pointed me out and said,yes, that's him. But everything else
they didn't have no actual like eyewitnessesto say yeah, we see what happened,
(13:35):
And they didn't have no no likefor cause or anything like from my
we one and saying hey, therewas a shooter. I heard describing the
suspects. There was never They neverintroduced anything on like dispatched the radio or
anything talking about there was a shootingand we have these suspects, and you
know, given the description, theydidn't give nothing. Then what I kind
(13:58):
of found weird is that in thepolice support they never say anything about it
discription. They never say that.If they even ask for a description,
you never say anything about that.So you know, I'm telling my loader
life it wasn't me, and thisis what I was wearing. And because
(14:20):
I was wearing this blue jacket withthese reflecting stripes on a long lines,
I figured, well, that's somethingthat's pre recognizable, you know, like
that's something that you're gonna remember.You're not gonna you're not gonna forget.
Maybe you might not remember the color, but you might remember that you know,
Okay is a dark and that ithas these white stripes, these reflecting
(14:43):
stripes. So I'm telling my loaderlife, well, there's gotta be a
way. Maybe we could go andtry to find some witnesses, because like
I said, it's a very livelystreet, and maybe we could get a
description, like because I know thatit wasn't me. I was I was
sitting cars. So there's no waythat somebody's going to say that they saw
(15:03):
they saw me, they saw mymy description, my clothing, you know.
So I asked them, like weshould try to get the any kind
of nine one one records to seeif there's any phone calls, if anybody
called the police that night, whichyou know, I wouldn't doubt that somebody
did, so as I told themthat, I told him try to look
(15:28):
for any kind of police phone call, any nine one one calls to determine
if anybody, you know, madea description. And another thing I had
asked them oil was to get thecommunication, the radio communication the dispatch could
because they have to believe they haveto keep a copy of all that.
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So if they ever said anything abouta description on the radio, you know,
if dispatcher called it in, orif the officers called it in because
the officers said there, you know, they pulled over. When they pulled
over William, they spoke to him. So you know, I would think
protocol is once you speaks to him, the very very first thing you're going
(16:11):
to ask is who shan't you?What did the person look like? Give
us a description and then go onthe radio and put that description out there
and tell the other officers they werelooking for this for this suspect, and
he's a mantle, he's a Hispanic, he's this, he's all, he's
shaved, whatever that description is goingto be. So I tell my lawder
the same thing, as try andget those reports. You know, we
(16:33):
should be able to get those communicationreports. And then the other thing.
All the officers that that show up, they all have to write I think
it's called a daily field activity report. Every single alcer has to write one
(16:55):
whenever they respond to anything. SoI was telling him as well, will
you should try to get all thosereports for every single officer because in the
police report, it's only one officerand that's it. It's just the officer
Rona. They took the rolla right, he's the only one saying anything in
this in this police report. Butwe didn't. We didn't get nothing from
(17:18):
the other officers. We didn't getnone of the other officers reports. We
didn't get they give Domingus report,the one that that testifying about the pursuit.
You know, we didn't get OkaysonHadler's report, the one that testifies
saying that he don't he don't rememberseeing the doors open or the light or
them shining lights on me. Wedidn't get his report, We didn't get
(17:41):
Officer Badar's report. We didn't getnone of the officers reports, none of
them. We only we only gotthe Texas report, you know. So
I'm telling the lawyer, well,we need to end everybody's report. We
need to see if they all havethe same story or what. You know.
Well, this lawyer, same thing. Man, he did not do
(18:03):
an investigation. He didn't bother doingan investigation. And I think because from
the very beginning, either this guyfelt that he didn't want to do anything
from my case. Maybe he hadcame up to an agreement with the DA,
because I hear about that all thetime, or these lawyers make deals
(18:26):
with the DA. You know,you can have this case, just give
me, let me get this case. You know. So it felt like
this dude like really really didn't donothing for me, and like he didn't
even try, you know. Butyeah, that was that was that was
most of the evidence that they wereusing, you know, And I think
(18:48):
it was mainly due because they likesaid they had no they had no like
they didn't want to investigate. They'rejust like, oh, let's open the
shut simple, let's getting related.You know, we got this game member,
we got that game umber, andthat's that. You know. They
didn't bother looking into it at all. Yeah, So, you know,
(19:11):
mister Lake, I just felt likefrom the very from the very gay,
I don't I don't. I don'tfeel like this guy really believed in me.
I didn't feel like he was reallyyou know, motivated and I really
wanted to help me, you know, because you know when when you have
that so when somebody really believes inyou, and and you can see it
(19:32):
in their face, like like thisguy really wants to help you, like
he's gonna he's gonna do everything hecan for you. Like and this guy,
I don't know, I just feltlike he was kind of like careless
or whatever, and you know,you know, just trying to get the
trying to get the lineup. Likethis guy was arguing with me to not
do the lineup. You know,It's like, come on, manly,
like, of course I want theline up. I'm innocent. I'm not
(19:55):
worried about getting pointed out. Iknow I'm not gonna get pointed out because
I'm innocent, but this guy's arguingwith me for that, you know,
and then the other stuff, youknow, like one of the one of
the big things. It was likethe picture's motion, you know, because
the picture's motion is for you tobe able to get any record on the
(20:17):
officers, if they have any kindof misconduct, if they have any disciplinary
anything like that, that will show, you know, because I wanted to
show that these cops were lying specificallyabout that infield show up, because the
whole prostitution really really was based onthat, and that infield show up,
(20:37):
you know, um by then sayingthat he that he identified me, and
you know, I know that Iwas only there for a matter of seconds,
you know, and and I andI very clearly heard when the officer
yelled out, it's too late toget him out of here, and I
got right back in the car.So I really wanted to follow that pitch
(21:00):
and you know, hope that Iwould find something. Maybe someone else complained
about him, maybe somebody else followedsomething on him, saying that this to
live, he planted evidence, hefalsified evidence, anything, you know,
anything, then the lower City wouldbut he never did. He never followed
that, you know. You know. Another thing that I had asked him
(21:21):
too, was like, a wasI think an eyewitness expert, right,
and I witness expert to to speakon the circumstances you know, the whole
circumstances of William. Okay, ifhe's if he's uh, if he's under
the influence of drugs and alcohol,if he needs glasses, if he's just
(21:42):
been shy, if he's been inif he's in a lot of pain,
if he's in this type of situation, How credible can in the identification be
if they made an identification, youknow, because the majority of cases of
alterca people is misidentification. Some witnesscomes and says, yeah, that was
(22:06):
him, that was him, andthey swear to it, and then later
on they say, you know whatnow that I think about it, No,
you know, I just said itbecause of this or that, or
or I thought it was but no, it really wasn't. You know,
Like there's always something man and andit's and it shows there's proofulness, there's
there's the study of it. Youknow, they've they've shown all these exonerations
(22:27):
and all these universities and all thisstuff. So it's out there it's true.
You know, there's a lot ofmisidentification, whether it's the victim or
whether it's an I witness. Soyou know, I thought that would be
something good, you know, butyeah, this this this lattery. He
really did nothing, no no typeof investigation. You know, he could
(22:51):
have said he could have gone goneand looked for the nine o one cost,
could have gone and looked for everysingle officer involved in the ins and
every single officer has to ride upreport in a daily field activity report.
He could have got that. Youknow. There there were so many things
that he could have done, justbasic stuff, you know, but he
didn't do nothing. And yeah,I just felt like he never really believed
(23:12):
in me, and he just hethought I was guilty. And I think
that he actually just gave my caseover to the DA. I think that
he used me and a couple otherguys as as as like bargaining chips.
You know, he's like, hey, you can have these guys, but
let me get these guys off,because like I said, I was in
(23:33):
the county and I ran into severalguys that he was their attorney. But
they all had one thing in common. The majority of one was from eighteen
Street, and then it was meand a couple other guys who weren't from
Ageing Street and we're the ones thatwe lost our cases, and the guys
from Aging Street, you know,they were going home. At the time,
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I felt like that was kind offunny, you know, But you
know, now that I think aboutit's like, yeah, man, I
think more likely did he did useas a bargain class bargaining chips and he
made a deal with DA. Andwhen they say a go, hey Bill
roll him. Man, I'm notgonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna defend
him, gonna do shit. Andthe DA even on his closing argument,
(24:18):
he was even saying, oh,you're the lawyer. Doesn't even believe him,
Like the lawyers not even fighting forhim and not even arguing because he
knows that there's nothing he to door say, so even he even like
put him on the spot. Wellyeah, and then also too, like
with the investigating officers, you know, they I felt like they just they
(24:41):
just wanted to make a stick.You know, Hey, we got this
guy, he's a game member.This guy he game members game related.
Who cares, Let's just make astick, you know, at dinner.
This, let's just make a stick. And now that's that's what that part.
They didn't asked, they did anymeans necessary to get the job done,
right. So it didn't matter whatit was. As long as the
guy got convicted, he got arrested, I saw that. Matter didn't matter
(25:03):
if he wasn't this, and itdidn't matter if if the evidence was false,
it didn't matter if the cops plannedthe evidence. None of that shit
mattered. The only thing that matteredwas another Mexican gang member off the street,
you know. And you could readon that. You could read all
kinds of stuff about Rampart, allkinds of stuff about how they did there,
what they did, you know,and it's it's a fact. And
(25:27):
all the sack thing is that thatthat whole team of rampart like it was
really nothing man like, like thatwas barely even the tip of the iceberg.
You know. Then they got awaywith it. They got away with
it because at the end of theday, end, it was sweeping them
the rugs saying hey man, itwas just one cop and he had to
(25:47):
save himself by making up lines aboutall these other cops. So, you
know, they got away with it. Uh, they ended up paying a
gang of money. Why would youpay millions and millions and millions of dollars
if you're if you're if your policedepartment. It was not corrupt, you
know, but they did. Theypaid a gang of money, and they
(26:08):
let a lot of people out andall that. But only only like two
officers got convicted. You know.The rest of the officers either they either
reason hind they quit, they gotfired, you know, but none of
them were actually convicted of anything.So just feel like said around those cops.
(26:30):
They were they were remparted. Theywere our core rempartment. They had
been there since ninety five. Youknow that dude, the dard that did
the that didn't feel show up thatlight about that. He had been there
for years, so he was inthe mix of all that stuff. So
he was around all that. Theother guy had detect the verona, the
same thing. He had been therefor a while. Uh. Todd Turner,
(26:53):
the gang investigator, he had alsobeen there since nineteen ninety five.
So they were all up in thereduring the whole the whole height of it.
So they saw it, they knewwhat was going on. They more
likely they participated in it. Becauseat the end, and they the majority
of these officers, when they seetheir partner doing something wrong, they turn
(27:15):
they turned the blind back to it. And it's a fact, man,
you hardly ever see any officer stepin because if they do step in and
they do say something, then theyget they get outcasted. You know.
The cops are like, fucked thisdude, and and and they don't they
don't funk with them, you know. I mean, look at what happened
with them with George Floyd, rightLike the cop is is sitting there killing
(27:37):
this dude, and these other copspretend like nothing's happened. They just they
they don't. They're not even looking. They're not even acknowledging it. They're
not even telling that. I hey, man, you just can't doesn't look
the man layoff, you know.They don't say shit, right. So
that's that's their culture, man.And there's a lot of stuff going on
right now with the with the lostange of the Sheriff's department to all the
(28:00):
gangs in the in those sheriffs departments, and there's some kind of big trial
going on and all that stuff iscoming out, man. So all that
stuff is being brought to light,you know, and it's it's true,
man, it's real. These guysfucking they terrorized the streets and they did
a lot of dirty days, andthey got a lot of guys put away
(28:23):
by any means necessary. So Ifeel like like I was a victim of
that as well, you know.Um, And like you say it from
the outside looking in, you know, you look at the case and and
and just by the evidence and rightoff the bag, you're like, okay,
you know it makes sense. Yeah, I think he's probably guilty.
(28:45):
But how many times has there beena situation where you think, going away,
man, and because you don't knowall the facts, you have sixty
seconds, it looks like it happeneda certain way, and everybody believes that
happen that way. And then yougo back and you see what really truly
happened, and and there's there's justit didn't happen that way, you know,
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