June 24, 2025 • 34 mins
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Do we choose what appeals to our senses rather than choosing that which will be more fruitful in the end? Michael brings up a story from the Bible that addresses this issue.
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Do we choose what appeals to our senses rather than choosing that which will be more fruitful in the end? Michael brings up a story from the Bible that addresses this issue.
#joerogan #podcast #mensministry #christianliving #biblestudy #cussing #charliekirk #joerogan #jasonwhitlock #fearless #menshealth #christianliving #vincevaughn #timtebow #christianmotivation #churchmemes #mensministry #promiskeepers #timtebow #patrickbetdavid
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yo, what are you doing right now?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We are going to get real about men's issues, who
Jesus is and who we are as men in Christ.
We're gonna hear Trey, Jeremy, Michael and Brad break it down.
These guys call themselves the cousin Christians. All right, guys,
what is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Dude? You're crop dusting next to me?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh, Michael Thomas.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Everybody, Michael Thomas crop dustin? Before the show?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Who sent the fart walk?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
That was me? Did you say? I just that that?
That lady?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Classy lady?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
She will Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I just want to let you know.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Me and my husband just got through eating dinner about
an hour ago and we're taking our daily fartwalk.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
What we eat a lot of fight.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
We eat a lot of fiber and it's just a
soul Did you not watch it?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I did? And then I'm like, is this real? I think?
I don't know if I buy it?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
And since I copied the link of it and shared it,
I'm seeing her more and more now.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
So I'm in the algorithm for her.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So are all of her messages like that?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Or I've only seen that one and I need to
look at the other ones.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
But she's just so.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So weird to take our fart lock. So I was
at the gym last week and I saw this dude.
You know, people have a certain look, and this guy
had like a wife beater, a little tank top on,
gold chain, a little ear ring, a little backwards baseball cab,
kind of kind of a look, you know, young guy.
I'm like, all right, whatever, I'm I don't try to
dress up when I go. You know, when I go
(01:38):
to the gym, I kind of take that Mike Tyson approach.
It's like a towel with the whole cutting in the air.
Were that just bear basic stuff. So I'll see him
over there, and then like five minutes later, three other
dudes show up dressed exactly the same way.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Were they in the same group, knew each other?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah they were. They were all hanging out.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
They all had a little gold chain, they all had
an ear ring in one ear, backwards baseball cab. And
it was like, okay, now this just looks stupid, yeah,
like like somebody's been influenced by somebody else. And I'm like, like,
where are they getting this from?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And so then I thought, well, what have I ever
been in a group like that, like whether it's a
musician thing or like, have I ever found myself with
a group of dudes and it's like, oh, we're all
dressed alike, Like where does that come from? I mean,
I wear tank tops sometimes. But it's just it was
the combination. There were like five elements that they all
had in common that it's like maybe that's an insecurity thing, like, well,
(02:26):
I'm gonna look like my bros.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And then we'll all be cool together.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Right, But when you get when you get five, you know,
four or five guys that all look the same back
with baseball cap all that kind of stuff, it just
to me looks silly.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
That's definitely a younger guy thing. At the gym I
go to, Yeah, the gym I go to. It's so
funny all of these high school age or early college
age kids, they have the same exact Patrick Mahomes haircut,
or the Kurt, you know, the Curt that's in right now.
I guess there'd be like six of them around one
bench press, you know, having like holding court, you know,
(02:58):
just taken forever.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's just I'm looking at him just.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Like I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I have I did it.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
The same like crew that we all looked exactly the same.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I don't I don't know so old now, I don't
even remember back then.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I'm gonna I'm going to mention someone's name. I think
he listens to us. I've communicated with him a little
bit with the happenings going on in my family. But
his name's Jay, and he's from We grew when I
was in Midland, Texas, right, And he and I both
were diagnosed that we had to get glasses about the
same time.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You know what caused.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So I'm like.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
So, I'm like twelve, We're like twelve years old, right,
We're like twelve years old, right, and we both got
the glasses. We think we're closest to Elton John's glasses
back in the day, because.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You remember John, we're the big old round.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
We both got this bigger glasses as our moms would
let us get and we and we both took piano
lessons at the same time.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
We did it all. I'm embarrassed he came out or that,
did you have a feather back that?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I don't know about them that coming out stuff. I
think as well before that, but this was this was
in the seventies. Man, this was in the seventies.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Okay, did you have a bullet too?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
No, I didn't have anything like that. I didn't wear
any frillly stuff. But you just wanted glasses to match.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That's funny.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
And then of course as you grow up, you just
like those guys at the gym, they yeah, we did
it in some capacity.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, we're all influenced by something or someone that we
think looks cool. But but I feel like I draw
a line, Like if I was in a group with
four other dudes and we all look exactly the same,
M'd be like, whoa wait a minute, Like, I don't
want to I don't want to be like this.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Now you know you're not the Backstreet Boys.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Well, they're going to look back and be like, what
were we doing those haircuts? For me, it was cargo shorts.
I look at pictures, I'm like, what what was I
doing wearing the.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Well we had the really short short basketball.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah we had our shorts were and really short. They
were so yep they were.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
As you getting older, it's funny because you know, you
remember stuff, and you know Michelle and I, you know,
we're trying to spice.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Things up into bed them a little bit.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Her Her favorite is uh a sexy librarian, and uh,
that's where I have to sit quietly and keep my
mouth shut.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
We'll see if that makes a cut. Brown crazy world.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
We're in Iran and Iraq, or I mean Israel and
Iran are bombing each other, and things are erupting everywhere.
People are taking sides everywhere. We're hearing about plans and
cities for uh Sharia neighborhoods and UH over by plane.
(05:35):
Oh man, that that's crazy what they're trying to do there.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
It just seems like we are.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Just a hot The world is just a hot spot
right now of enemies going against each other, making enemies up,
the lies in the media, everything else.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
As men, as Christians.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Do we seek out what's appealing and looks good or
do we seek out truth? I'm not I don't want
to step into your territory.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Seek out what's fruitful, okay, or or what's a attractive
You know the story of Jacob and Rachel.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I guess she was smoking hot.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's when I read it.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I'm going because as soon as he saw, as soon
as he saw, as like she took his breath away, right.
I mean that you can you get that when you're
reading the script.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
In by contrast, poor Leah, her sister says she had
weak eyes.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Do you know how bud ugly you got to be
for Moses to make that comment in scripture, to put
that in scripture that she was cock eyes, she had
weak eyes.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
She was coming sorry, Leah.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Oh, but here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
He worked for her for seven years, and when he
talk to his dad, he's like, I'll work for seven years. Like, dude,
why not just say I'll do seven months? Right, he's
the one that said seven years.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, that was that.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
That's twenty nine verse eighteen. But yeah, she must have
been real hot.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Seven years. It's a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, that's what's dude. I would have said, hey, tell
you what, I'll do it for six months. I'll work
for six months and then let me marry your daughter.
But he's like, man, seven years must have.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Been something in the Jewish tradition that seven you know.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
All seven years over and over and over. I mean
the Levi priest had to take a whole year off
after seven years of work in the temple.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Laban's yea Laban gave his daughter.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Uh, he said, okay, you can have Rachel after seven
years or the guy I was like, he pulled a
fast one on him.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
The night of the marriage she was in a veil
and then the wedding bed she pulls the veil off
and it's leah.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
But you know, Jake was reaping what he what he
sowed because when he when he swindled his esaw out
of his birthright, and when he went to his dad
and he you know, put on the fur and all
that kind of stuff. So he was reaping what he
had sown. So it's it's interesting to see how that
came came back on him.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
So here, what you do do you? All right?
Speaker 7 (08:02):
You you're going to consummate the marriage? And which eye
do you look at?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
That? That's so you to go there.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
I was told, when people's eyes don't play well together,
you have to look at their nose. If you look
at their nose, then you don't get distracted by you know.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
The I haven't had that many experiences.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I'm in a public than you are. So but for
Moses to put that in scripture, why and this? I
kept asking him? He said, why is that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (08:33):
So she wasn't attractive, and so as men, he Jacob
wanted what was attractive? Do we always pick? I mean
they say love at first sight, you know, is it?
Do we go after what's attractive or what's or what's fruitful?
And I think as men we go after what's attractive.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
It's it's definitely the first thing. And I think is
you can even push it through past men to almost
every everything we do. We we base so many things
off of how appealing it is to the eye, whether
it's a woman are whether it's a new car, whether
it's a home.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You want to buy, a job. You know, is a
job attractive to me? Or is it going to be
fruitful for him?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
It's it's interesting. Nobody has to teach us that. We
just since the time I was a kid. You go
with what what's sweeter, what looks better? You just naturally
do it. But I think as you become a mature
adult you can reason. You can say, well, that looks better,
but that may not be better, right, Like that may
be more attractive, but that may not be the best
thing for me in the long run. So you know,
as you mature, you should be able to look past that,
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or you know, maybe maybe you see something you go
that's attractive, but then your reason past and go, well,
that may not be a good thing for me in
the long run. So I want to choose what's what's
fruitful instead of what's attractive.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
And when we talk about fruitful, we talk about the
fact that Lea was popping out pups like crazy.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Man, the tribes of Israel will being born right there.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
And what what tribe is out of Leah?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And who came out of Lea?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Judah all right, and then who and Levite? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
And then Jesus.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, you know the the law.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
The Levites were the ones that managed the temple, so
all the law was there, and then Judah was Jesus that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
All came from her.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Isn't that cool?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I think it is real cool.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
From the daughter that was rejected, that wasn't picked first,
that that wasn't considered attractive, right, fruitful.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
I'm going to ask you, you're kind of in that
age where you're seeking someone to spend your life with.
Be honest, what what do you you don't want to
I mean, you're not looking at cuck eyed.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
No, no, certainly not the first thing that you have
to be attracted to the person, you know, So that's
obviously the first thing, whether you're trying to do that
or not.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
That's what happens right off.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
But as I've gotten a little older, then you kind
of take that and put it to the side, and
then you shuffle through, you know, the other things that
you need that are going to be peace is probably
my number one criteria, like it is this person going
to give me peace or or help me have peace?
Does the personality mesh with how I'm wired? And I
(11:24):
think that that's probably the number one most I mean,
obviously relationship with Jesus's paramount, but after that, it's is
this going to be someone that provides peace for me?
But it's definitely, you know, a pretty crucial aspect of
being able to get along with someone and stand them
every single day, you know, no matter how much you're
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attracted them or how good of a person they are,
you know, that's got to be there.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's my wife and I are very different personality wise,
very different. But you know, is she type? Oh yeah, okay,
she's type. She's a lot more emotional, a lot more
passionate than I am. And I mean I've learned, but
it's good because we compliment each other, and so I've
learned a lot from her, and I think I've grown
closer in some ways to how she is, and she's
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grown closer to me personality wise, but we're still very different.
But the main thing for us is that we were
both kind of had an established relationship with the Lord
and that carried us through times where we weren't getting
along and when things were tough and we didn't know
how we were going to get out of it. That
was like the main thing that kept us together. So, yeah,
you may find somebody that doesn't have a lot of
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the same traits, but man, if you have that relationship
with the Lord, and you'll still know if you click right,
and you can be complete opposites on the personality side,
but you can still click. Yeah, definitely, you got to
have somebody who's who loves the Lord, because that's.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
The main thing.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You can make it through anything if you are both
pursuing the Lord.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
So Tony, don't be unequally yoke with a non believer.
I truly believe that more than any else. And the
whole term of the word yo is you know, when
they would tie the oxen together and if if the
one oxen was not pulling its way, they would get
nothing done, and circles.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Going circles, or just it was.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
You know, if the oxen was you know, cock eye,
it'd be plowing a row off to the other side.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
My point is, you've got to.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Follow a scripture when it comes to who you're gonna
pick as a maid and who you're gonna spend your
life with. So my point with all right, so he
stays with for seven years and then goes back to him.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
But the whole time Leah is fruitful. Okay.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
So he gets Rachel after seven years and nothing nothing
for years, he can't she can't have a baby, and
and it says that God had closed her womb. I
don't know why. I don't know basically what that whole
other than the fact that the tribes the God's plan.
(14:03):
And I've said this before from the beginning the whole
Old Testament. Even though guys, you know, you got David
and you've got all these people screwing up all through
the Old Testament, God's plan was still to get to
the point of.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Jesus being on the cross, right, no.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Matter what we look at, you know, Jacob had to
think about that, I mean, and then he stayed because
he was he was going after what's attractive rather than
what's fruitful, because Lee was fruitful and Rachel was attractive,
so he wanted that attractive thing.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
So how does that apply to us as men and
walking in this twenty twenty five world that everything is
available at the push of a button. The church has
metamorphosized into something I don't believe, you know, the Book
of Acts even comes close to what the Book of
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Acts does. Now, know, we make decisions on everything based
on kind of what the Jacob story is about, right,
what how do we apply this stuff in our day
to day walk and what do we look out for?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
What do we do?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
We are assaulted, Our senses are assaulted now more than
ever with social media. I mean, we're bombarded with pictures
of whatever, beautiful women, whatever it is, and you don't
even know what's real anymore. Right, So it's it's like,
whatever you see, you have to stop and say, I
don't even know if that's real.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
But you know, you have to go back to the word.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You have to be anchored in something that's gonna that's
gonna not lead you down the wrong path. So It's
almost like we can't trust what we see anymore.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
This has been going on for thousands and thousands, since
the beginning of time, ever since you know, you know,
E've heard the words is he.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Really gonna kill you? You know that little fruit.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
There's just little bitty things, and we've gotten to where
we are now with just chaos. It seems like, I
know it waskotic in two thousand years ago. But how
we react to this and when we when we're faced
with these decisions in our life, what process does our
minds and our hearts go through to choose is this?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
You know, my wife's in real estate.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
I hear all these stories about people seeing these homes
that that are beautiful and expensive, and then it gets
down to the part does this you know, you just think,
does this home put a roof over my head, keep
me dry, supply me water and the functionality of things?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Or is it the grandiose?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
And you know, sometimes I'm going, man, that's that's a
lot of stuff, no judgment. Is cool to be able
to afford to buy you a brand news stinking home.
It looks fantastic, But how do we make decisions in
ancient times? Do they have like mortgage companies, or did
you just go out and people did you?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Did you just stir up?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
People did loan money.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
But I was just wondering, if you're if you're getting
your house, did you just go and get some water
and some dirt.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
And make some mud?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And most people did.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Most people did it that way, right, So we got
we pay people to do that for us now because who.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Was moving out of their house that they had built
back then? Who built a house out of mud bricks
and then three years later said, you know, I'm gonna
move the other side.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Of town now.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I went to Riverview.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
People now they just move across town because there's a
newer area, Like there's nothing wrong with the house they're in.
They're like, well that area of there looks cool, so
let's just move across town for no reason.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah. And that's I'm not slamming us. I just that's
just what we've been conditioned to do. Uh and and
and the way the way Western culture is.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
I've always been the type that I've I've fixed everything.
I've always bought that ugly duckley and then made it
the way I wanted to make you. So I've never
gone after what's attracted. When it comes to that, there
are other things in my life that I have. This
one particular job that I had, I went after it
because it was attractive and the money was good.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
This was a number of years ago.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
But the boss and I know the Lord, I know
in my spirit even though I wasn't serving him at
the point. At that time, it was like I was
having all these questions and I didn't go to the
Lord about it. And I worked for and this guy
was a royal prick. Sorry, he was just he was
the worst boss you can ever imagine. But because I
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picked what was attractive and I thought that, oh man,
this is great, I made a rash decision. I didn't
obviously pray about it because I wasn't serving the Lord
at the time, and it was it proved to be
a miserable experience for Meray.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
It really was.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Is that what we do as men do We make
rash decisions and then we have to live with the
consequences and then we asked God to bail us out.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, I think we choose things that it feeds our ego.
So it's a you choose maybe you're looking ne to
use car and it's a really cool looking car, but
it's like, why is it so cheap?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Was it flooded? I don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It looks cool. I'm going to look cool in that car.
It's going to reflect well on me. And you know,
even even with the girlfriend thing in high school, you
want the whatever, the cool check or the cheerleader chick
because it makes you look good, even if you know,
even if the relationship is dysfunctional or terrible.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
So I think a lot of times it goes it
goes back to pride.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's like so many of the bad things or wrong
things we do, it goes back to pride in how
it makes, how it reflects on us. Does it make
me look cool that I bought this house even though
you know, maybe there's mold in it, and maybe maybe
in the long run it's going to be a headache,
But on the outward appearance it looks great.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So I went for it.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Rash decisions instead of taking taking time in pro I mean,
I know you're young. Have you have you done anything
rash that you regret that's been attractive as as opposed
to thinking it's going to be fruitful for you.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Some of the things that I did were four other
people and and like you know, I bought I bought
my mama car and at the time, no problem, you know,
and it was the coolest thing I've ever done, you know,
such a joy to do. And that was before I
bought myself anything cool, when I was you know, doing
decently well. But then that ended up being you know,
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probably not the best decision. And so maybe that was rash.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Probably that was rash.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
But she's happy and still driving it, and that makes
me happy, you know that I can do that for her.
So yeah, that was That's probably one that was rash,
that shouldn't have done, but just excited to do and
and just did it. You know.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
In Genesis forty nine, when you when you go there,
it says that Jacob called for a sentence, said, assemble
yourselves around me, that I may tell you what will
happen to you and your descendants in the days to come.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
And he goes on.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
And he starts telling them, you know, singing and Levira brothers,
you know, just he tells them to bury.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Me where Leah is buried.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Okay, there is no mention of Rachel whatsoever in Genesis
forty nine, So he chose what was attractive in Genesis
twenty nine and got Leah who was fruitful, But in
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the end she's not mentioned. Rachel's not mentioned anywhere. So
what was his life like with Leah all those years
before he tells his sons where he wants to be buried.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
It had to be pretty special.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So do you think he grew to love Leah more
than Rachel?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Oh? I think so.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
And this is what he says, I'm to be gathered
to my people bury me and my father's in the
cave that is in the field that Efron hit tight,
in the cave in the field of mal I'm sorry,
malc Pula east of Memory, in the land of Kingdom
that Abraham brought along with the field of Ephry and
hit tight to possess a burial site. There they buried
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Abraham and Sarah his wife, and they buried Isaac and
Rebecca his wife, And there I buried Leah. The field
and the cave that is in it was purchased from
the Sun's head.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
What happened to Rachel Man, I'm not sure. Was she
a stage five clinger?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I've never heard that before, never saw a wedding crashers
did you did? I only saw it once. You guys
watch every movie ten times and memorize it. I saw
it once.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Talked to Hudson.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Lesson lessons learned through this a little scenario of do
we get what's attractive or do we try to try
to focus on what's fruitful?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
And this is just another of a million.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Lessons in God's Word. And this is why when I
am with my younger guys in our group, I just
stress like reading God's word because every single lesson that
we need to know about life is in here. And
we're either going to get in his word and read
it and learn it and be able to avoid these,
you know, the situations, or we're gonna make the mistake
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and go through it ourselves and learn the hard way.
It'd be waysier if I would have just read all
this growing up and still make mistakes, but like, this
is a huge lesson for life in this story, and
or you'd take David's life, you know. I mean there's
everything that we could do wrong. They did wrong, you know,
and we just don't read the word and then we
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just we just learned the hard way on ourselves, and
then we end up dealing with the consequences, the earthly consequences.
Like we said, where you reap what you so you know,
God takes it all away in our eternal life, but
you know here there's consequences.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So this story, it's like there's a theme throughout the
Bible where God chooses the lowly things. He chooses the
foolest things that can found the wise. He doesn't always
choose like what's attractive. And even even Jesus didn't come
the way people thought he would, you know, they wanted
him to be like this this warrior and this king
on a you know, on a horse, but he was
born in a stable. Like everything that you know throughout
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the Bible, you just see God using the lowly things,
the things that you wouldn't look at and go that's
you know, like like even David, they didn't look at him,
go that's.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
The guy you know he chose. They look at all
of his brothers who were taller than him, and old.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Was pimply faced and redheaded.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
And but whenever he did, like when God did, when
he chose Saul, he was he was.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
He was the guy.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
He was heading head and shoulders of everybody else looked
looked good, ended up being a disaster. So so here's
here's Leah, who's not not the attractive one. She's rejected
and despise, but she was the one that was fruitful.
So I mean, I think that's encouragement for people who
maybe they feel like they don't they don't feel like
they measure up in some way. God still uses those people,
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and he does it more often than not, it seems
in the Bible so many of the stories we see.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
So now these guys are walking here in Brevard County, Florida,
or is your travels to New York or wherever you're
going to be? Garrett's head in Chicago. What lesson can
we learn as we're traversing?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Now?
Speaker 5 (25:23):
What about what about the church today? Is the church
turned to a what's attractive thing? And then Western world?
Speaker 7 (25:34):
One thing that bothers me more than anything else is
what some of these girls and women wear at church,
yes and out, not just at church. I mean, I'm
just like, Okay, men are visual beings, so you know
exactly what they're what they're trying to do. You guys
work out the gym. When I go to the gym,
I go with obscure hours because I don't want to
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see that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Sure, it makes it tough.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Get some extra wraps though, motivation extra ten on each side. Yeah,
I like going during those times getting weight up.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, okay, but I go to an older older
most they're all predominantly old people pretty much. I don't
see too many young people in there that are that
are working out. But I can't put myself in that situation.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I stare at the ceiling a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
That's why I like going early in the morning because
most people that go at five in the morning are
serious about being there.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
They're not there to hang out here scene.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
So that's that's one when I gotta get it done
and get changed, get to work.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I gotta I don't want have time to Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
But what I think modesty has been thrown out of
the window. You know, I don't know who the dude
was and invented yoga pants, but you know that whole thing.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
It's like, and there should be a weight limit on those, Yeah,
say they do not wear over one hundred and twenty
five pounds.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
You should only stretch so far and then like, yeah,
holy cow, but it's accepted today and and you know,
we got here. We got here because people want to
look like the next person, like your guys and the
wife beaters.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, but also as men, we need to not feed that,
we need to not celebrate that.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
But I understand because when you see reels on here
of musicians, female musicians and whatever else I don't know,
only fans, you know, and all.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
That, they're making it easiest easy for us to choose
the uh what looks good?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Right, It's not hard to choose.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Sure, But I think the mark of im mature man
is that they don't they don't bite on that, they
don't go for that. They're just like, look, I know
there's more to it than that, and so I'm not
going to react to it. And like you guys are,
like you've said, you try to guard your eyes and
guard your heart against that because you don't want to
be tempted by that.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
You don't want to that in your head.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Second second, that's the best thing I've ever heard from your.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Second Yeah, I heard it from a pastor when we
were living in Virginia and just talking about if you
see a bill, if you see a pretty woman, and
you know, like, you're not responsible for that first glance
you see them, but you're responsible for what you do
after that?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Is it the second second? Do you keep looking?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Do you keep gawking, or do you just look away
and say, Okay, I'm moving on.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And that's something you can train yourself to do.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
If you get to where you look at it and
you feel a little uncomfortable, that's probably a good thing.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Sure, But that's just how we're wired. We like visual beauty.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
That's why and everything the porn industry is what is
one hundred and thirty billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Now something like that.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I think it's more than that now, buddy. It increases
from year to year. And as that increases, so does
things like the trafficking stuff, kids getting kidnapped, and every
time we push a button on a phone or a
computer screen to go there, we're increasing the likelihood of that,
and all because of a visual.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And I blame I blame men for that.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's like, if we were men of character, then the
audience for that would not be there. It diminish, right,
So it's like, let's be men and let's not give
into that. But there's a lot of guys who don't care,
don't think it's the problem.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
A little porn never hurt nobody how many times have
we heard that with this ministry since twenty sixteen?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Man do porn every once in a while. It didn't
It doesn't really hurt anybody. Just do a little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
And we know guys who has devastated their lives and
now they have to have all these crazy measures in
place to keep from falling back into it.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
And it's not that way with everything.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
You know, we're going through a situation right now with
someone that you know, little beer's never going to hurt me,
and it's hurting him in a big way.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
And it's tough, and it's it's how we try to
fill something inside of ourselves with something other than Jesus.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
You know the.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Meme that went out today for our Instagram. Everything changed
for me when I finally quit trying so hard and
actually focused on Jesus, when I understood who he is
and what he did to me. I realized the unconditional
love and grace my father has for me. And you
want to talk about freedom, just grow in the knowledge
of his grace and focus on him and all you
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do it? Uh? How do we how do we train
our hearts and our minds to shift to focus on
Jesus at those moments.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Because it's Oh, it will always be fruitful, right, Yeah,
Everything that we choose, if it's Christ centered and revolves
around him, will be fruitful.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
It won't be attractive, yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Because that's that's Satan's way of taking us away from
the Father, dangling that apple? Did he really say you
can't eat this?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
And yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Did he really say you can't look at a little born?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
That's Uh, it's evident today you believe in forgiveness, right,
I just ask forgiveness when you're done.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Now, just the consequences we pay because of those decisions
we make.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Uh is Uh.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
If we don't make make the decision on what's fruitful
in our lives, then we'll pay the consequences right here,
right now?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
What's else on your heart on that?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I'm good man.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I just from a younger guy's perspective. G.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
I think what was discussed at UH with Patrick last weekend.
He said, look look at things through the lens of eternity, and.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
You can. You can do that all the time. And
I think when.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
You're walking around, when you're speaking, you're either blessing or cursing.
You're you're you're either your actions are either opening a
door to the heavenlys or you're opening a door to
the demonic.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I don't think that the more that I read this,
I don't think.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
There's any neutrality in everything that we do. So if
you just think about that, that can make your decision
making a lot easier.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
And it's not you know, you just got to be
conscious of it, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
And ultimately there's freedom and right doing what the Word says.
Being trained by the word, you're not going to be
bound by lust or by dependency on alcohol or whatever
it is.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
In the long run, it is freedom right.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Well, cool, I appreciate you bringing that up today.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Bro, It's the decisions we make every day, of the
thousands of decisions we make every day, just think about it. Well,
we're making them through the lens of eternity. And if
we are the fruit, his fruit will follow. And I
think that's very apparent and abundant in what we're talking
about here. It's been a great few weeks for the
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ministry with Matthew west Patrick Young Evin at Church of
Era was a hit, and we'll be circling back up
there August the twenty third with our old friends coming back.
His name is Ali far Hati, born in Tehran as
a proud Muslim, saved by Christ when he immigrated the
United States. He's got a great story and Bacon story
(32:54):
is the best. Well we'll save it for that. So
we're going to really peel back some layers with Ali
and he's he's stoked. He's ready for to talk to
him a couple of days ago. So they'll be in town.
So that's August twenty third, So if you hear that date,
put it on your calendar.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Guys, other than that, Jeremy Sheffey, we miss you.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
I know you're doing something with a family this weekend,
and we love you, bro. We can't wait to see
you back. Not that we don't like Garrett, but Garrett
doesn't fill up a chair quite like you do. So
Garrett expanded him. So can you imagine if Cheffy would
have been here for Patrick Young and you all of us.
That's a big group. That's a big group. So but anyway,
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Speaker 3 (34:15):
Until then, I am Trey, I'm Garrett, I'm Brad. We
are the.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
So what we messed that with?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
M man always do Yeah, it's never you.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
And warm We're imperfect people.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Guys. It's freaking almost July.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah, last stadium.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Baby, next week you leave yep, last stadium of your
whole tour.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yes, awesome, dude, how many do you do it?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I'll pad This is ang
Yo, what are you doing right now?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We are going to get real about men's issues, who
Jesus is and who we are as men in Christ.
We're gonna hear Trey, Jeremy, Michael and Brad break it down.
These guys call themselves the cousin Christians. All right, guys,
what is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Dude? You're crop dusting next to me?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Oh, Michael Thomas.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Everybody, Michael Thomas crop dustin? Before the show?
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Who sent the fart walk?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
That was me? Did you say? I just that that?
That lady?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Classy lady?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
She will Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I just want to let you know.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Me and my husband just got through eating dinner about
an hour ago and we're taking our daily fartwalk.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
What we eat a lot of fight.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
We eat a lot of fiber and it's just a
soul Did you not watch it?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I did? And then I'm like, is this real? I think?
I don't know if I buy it?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
And since I copied the link of it and shared it,
I'm seeing her more and more now.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
So I'm in the algorithm for her.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
So are all of her messages like that?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Or I've only seen that one and I need to
look at the other ones.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
But she's just so.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So weird to take our fart lock. So I was
at the gym last week and I saw this dude.
You know, people have a certain look, and this guy
had like a wife beater, a little tank top on,
gold chain, a little ear ring, a little backwards baseball cab,
kind of kind of a look, you know, young guy.
I'm like, all right, whatever, I'm I don't try to
dress up when I go. You know, when I go
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to the gym, I kind of take that Mike Tyson approach.
It's like a towel with the whole cutting in the air.
Were that just bear basic stuff. So I'll see him
over there, and then like five minutes later, three other
dudes show up dressed exactly the same way.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Were they in the same group, knew each other?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah they were. They were all hanging out.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
They all had a little gold chain, they all had
an ear ring in one ear, backwards baseball cab. And
it was like, okay, now this just looks stupid, yeah,
like like somebody's been influenced by somebody else. And I'm like, like,
where are they getting this from?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And so then I thought, well, what have I ever
been in a group like that, like whether it's a
musician thing or like, have I ever found myself with
a group of dudes and it's like, oh, we're all
dressed alike, Like where does that come from? I mean,
I wear tank tops sometimes. But it's just it was
the combination. There were like five elements that they all
had in common that it's like maybe that's an insecurity thing, like, well,
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I'm gonna look like my bros.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And then we'll all be cool together.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Right, But when you get when you get five, you know,
four or five guys that all look the same back
with baseball cap all that kind of stuff, it just
to me looks silly.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
That's definitely a younger guy thing. At the gym I
go to, Yeah, the gym I go to. It's so
funny all of these high school age or early college
age kids, they have the same exact Patrick Mahomes haircut,
or the Kurt, you know, the Curt that's in right now.
I guess there'd be like six of them around one
bench press, you know, having like holding court, you know,
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just taken forever.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's just I'm looking at him just.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Like I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I have I did it.
Speaker 6 (03:05):
The same like crew that we all looked exactly the same.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I don't I don't know so old now, I don't
even remember back then.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I'm gonna I'm going to mention someone's name. I think
he listens to us. I've communicated with him a little
bit with the happenings going on in my family. But
his name's Jay, and he's from We grew when I
was in Midland, Texas, right, And he and I both
were diagnosed that we had to get glasses about the
same time.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You know what caused.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So I'm like.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
So, I'm like twelve, We're like twelve years old, right,
We're like twelve years old, right, and we both got
the glasses. We think we're closest to Elton John's glasses
back in the day, because.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You remember John, we're the big old round.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
We both got this bigger glasses as our moms would
let us get and we and we both took piano
lessons at the same time.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
We did it all. I'm embarrassed he came out or that,
did you have a feather back that?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I don't know about them that coming out stuff. I
think as well before that, but this was this was
in the seventies. Man, this was in the seventies.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Okay, did you have a bullet too?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
No, I didn't have anything like that. I didn't wear
any frillly stuff. But you just wanted glasses to match.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That's funny.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
And then of course as you grow up, you just
like those guys at the gym, they yeah, we did
it in some capacity.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, we're all influenced by something or someone that we
think looks cool. But but I feel like I draw
a line, Like if I was in a group with
four other dudes and we all look exactly the same,
M'd be like, whoa wait a minute, Like, I don't
want to I don't want to be like this.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Now you know you're not the Backstreet Boys.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
Well, they're going to look back and be like, what
were we doing those haircuts? For me, it was cargo shorts.
I look at pictures, I'm like, what what was I
doing wearing the.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Well we had the really short short basketball.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah we had our shorts were and really short. They
were so yep they were.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
As you getting older, it's funny because you know, you
remember stuff, and you know Michelle and I, you know,
we're trying to spice.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Things up into bed them a little bit.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Her Her favorite is uh a sexy librarian, and uh,
that's where I have to sit quietly and keep my
mouth shut.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
We'll see if that makes a cut. Brown crazy world.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
We're in Iran and Iraq, or I mean Israel and
Iran are bombing each other, and things are erupting everywhere.
People are taking sides everywhere. We're hearing about plans and
cities for uh Sharia neighborhoods and UH over by plane.
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Oh man, that that's crazy what they're trying to do there.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
It just seems like we are.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Just a hot The world is just a hot spot
right now of enemies going against each other, making enemies up,
the lies in the media, everything else.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
As men, as Christians.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Do we seek out what's appealing and looks good or
do we seek out truth? I'm not I don't want
to step into your territory.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Seek out what's fruitful, okay, or or what's a attractive
You know the story of Jacob and Rachel.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I guess she was smoking hot.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That's when I read it.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
I'm going because as soon as he saw, as soon
as he saw, as like she took his breath away, right.
I mean that you can you get that when you're
reading the script.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
In by contrast, poor Leah, her sister says she had
weak eyes.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
Do you know how bud ugly you got to be
for Moses to make that comment in scripture, to put
that in scripture that she was cock eyes, she had
weak eyes.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
She was coming sorry, Leah.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Oh, but here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
He worked for her for seven years, and when he
talk to his dad, he's like, I'll work for seven years. Like, dude,
why not just say I'll do seven months? Right, he's
the one that said seven years.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah, that was that.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
That's twenty nine verse eighteen. But yeah, she must have
been real hot.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Seven years. It's a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, that's what's dude. I would have said, hey, tell
you what, I'll do it for six months. I'll work
for six months and then let me marry your daughter.
But he's like, man, seven years must have.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Been something in the Jewish tradition that seven you know.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
All seven years over and over and over. I mean
the Levi priest had to take a whole year off
after seven years of work in the temple.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
Laban's yea Laban gave his daughter.
Speaker 7 (07:22):
Uh, he said, okay, you can have Rachel after seven
years or the guy I was like, he pulled a
fast one on him.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
The night of the marriage she was in a veil
and then the wedding bed she pulls the veil off
and it's leah.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
But you know, Jake was reaping what he what he
sowed because when he when he swindled his esaw out
of his birthright, and when he went to his dad
and he you know, put on the fur and all
that kind of stuff. So he was reaping what he
had sown. So it's it's interesting to see how that
came came back on him.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
So here, what you do do you? All right?
Speaker 7 (08:02):
You you're going to consummate the marriage? And which eye
do you look at?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
That? That's so you to go there.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
I was told, when people's eyes don't play well together,
you have to look at their nose. If you look
at their nose, then you don't get distracted by you know.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
The I haven't had that many experiences.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I'm in a public than you are. So but for
Moses to put that in scripture, why and this? I
kept asking him? He said, why is that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (08:33):
So she wasn't attractive, and so as men, he Jacob
wanted what was attractive? Do we always pick? I mean
they say love at first sight, you know, is it?
Do we go after what's attractive or what's or what's fruitful?
And I think as men we go after what's attractive.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
It's it's definitely the first thing. And I think is
you can even push it through past men to almost
every everything we do. We we base so many things
off of how appealing it is to the eye, whether
it's a woman are whether it's a new car, whether
it's a home.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You want to buy, a job. You know, is a
job attractive to me? Or is it going to be
fruitful for him?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
It's it's interesting. Nobody has to teach us that. We
just since the time I was a kid. You go
with what what's sweeter, what looks better? You just naturally
do it. But I think as you become a mature
adult you can reason. You can say, well, that looks better,
but that may not be better, right, Like that may
be more attractive, but that may not be the best
thing for me in the long run. So you know,
as you mature, you should be able to look past that,
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or you know, maybe maybe you see something you go
that's attractive, but then your reason past and go, well,
that may not be a good thing for me in
the long run. So I want to choose what's what's
fruitful instead of what's attractive.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
And when we talk about fruitful, we talk about the
fact that Lea was popping out pups like crazy.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Man, the tribes of Israel will being born right there.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
And what what tribe is out of Leah?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And who came out of Lea?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Judah all right, and then who and Levite? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
And then Jesus.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, you know the the law.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
The Levites were the ones that managed the temple, so
all the law was there, and then Judah was Jesus that.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
All came from her.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Isn't that cool?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I think it is real cool.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
From the daughter that was rejected, that wasn't picked first,
that that wasn't considered attractive, right, fruitful.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
I'm going to ask you, you're kind of in that
age where you're seeking someone to spend your life with.
Be honest, what what do you you don't want to
I mean, you're not looking at cuck eyed.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
No, no, certainly not the first thing that you have
to be attracted to the person, you know, So that's
obviously the first thing, whether you're trying to do that
or not.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
That's what happens right off.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
But as I've gotten a little older, then you kind
of take that and put it to the side, and
then you shuffle through, you know, the other things that
you need that are going to be peace is probably
my number one criteria, like it is this person going
to give me peace or or help me have peace?
Does the personality mesh with how I'm wired? And I
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think that that's probably the number one most I mean,
obviously relationship with Jesus's paramount, but after that, it's is
this going to be someone that provides peace for me?
But it's definitely, you know, a pretty crucial aspect of
being able to get along with someone and stand them
every single day, you know, no matter how much you're
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attracted them or how good of a person they are,
you know, that's got to be there.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
It's my wife and I are very different personality wise,
very different. But you know, is she type? Oh yeah, okay,
she's type. She's a lot more emotional, a lot more
passionate than I am. And I mean I've learned, but
it's good because we compliment each other, and so I've
learned a lot from her, and I think I've grown
closer in some ways to how she is, and she's
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grown closer to me personality wise, but we're still very different.
But the main thing for us is that we were
both kind of had an established relationship with the Lord
and that carried us through times where we weren't getting
along and when things were tough and we didn't know
how we were going to get out of it. That
was like the main thing that kept us together. So, yeah,
you may find somebody that doesn't have a lot of
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the same traits, but man, if you have that relationship
with the Lord, and you'll still know if you click right,
and you can be complete opposites on the personality side,
but you can still click. Yeah, definitely, you got to
have somebody who's who loves the Lord, because that's.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
The main thing.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You can make it through anything if you are both
pursuing the Lord.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
So Tony, don't be unequally yoke with a non believer.
I truly believe that more than any else. And the
whole term of the word yo is you know, when
they would tie the oxen together and if if the
one oxen was not pulling its way, they would get
nothing done, and circles.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Going circles, or just it was.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
You know, if the oxen was you know, cock eye,
it'd be plowing a row off to the other side.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
My point is, you've got to.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Follow a scripture when it comes to who you're gonna
pick as a maid and who you're gonna spend your
life with. So my point with all right, so he
stays with for seven years and then goes back to him.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
But the whole time Leah is fruitful. Okay.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
So he gets Rachel after seven years and nothing nothing
for years, he can't she can't have a baby, and
and it says that God had closed her womb. I
don't know why. I don't know basically what that whole
other than the fact that the tribes the God's plan.
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And I've said this before from the beginning the whole
Old Testament. Even though guys, you know, you got David
and you've got all these people screwing up all through
the Old Testament, God's plan was still to get to
the point of.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Jesus being on the cross, right, no.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Matter what we look at, you know, Jacob had to
think about that, I mean, and then he stayed because
he was he was going after what's attractive rather than
what's fruitful, because Lee was fruitful and Rachel was attractive,
so he wanted that attractive thing.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
So how does that apply to us as men and
walking in this twenty twenty five world that everything is
available at the push of a button. The church has
metamorphosized into something I don't believe, you know, the Book
of Acts even comes close to what the Book of
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Acts does. Now, know, we make decisions on everything based
on kind of what the Jacob story is about, right,
what how do we apply this stuff in our day
to day walk and what do we look out for?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
What do we do?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
We are assaulted, Our senses are assaulted now more than
ever with social media. I mean, we're bombarded with pictures
of whatever, beautiful women, whatever it is, and you don't
even know what's real anymore. Right, So it's it's like,
whatever you see, you have to stop and say, I
don't even know if that's real.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
But you know, you have to go back to the word.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You have to be anchored in something that's gonna that's
gonna not lead you down the wrong path. So It's
almost like we can't trust what we see anymore.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
This has been going on for thousands and thousands, since
the beginning of time, ever since you know, you know,
E've heard the words is he.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Really gonna kill you? You know that little fruit.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
There's just little bitty things, and we've gotten to where
we are now with just chaos. It seems like, I
know it waskotic in two thousand years ago. But how
we react to this and when we when we're faced
with these decisions in our life, what process does our
minds and our hearts go through to choose is this?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
You know, my wife's in real estate.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
I hear all these stories about people seeing these homes
that that are beautiful and expensive, and then it gets
down to the part does this you know, you just think,
does this home put a roof over my head, keep
me dry, supply me water and the functionality of things?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Or is it the grandiose?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
And you know, sometimes I'm going, man, that's that's a
lot of stuff, no judgment. Is cool to be able
to afford to buy you a brand news stinking home.
It looks fantastic, But how do we make decisions in
ancient times? Do they have like mortgage companies, or did
you just go out and people did you?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Did you just stir up?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Well?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
People did loan money.
Speaker 5 (17:05):
But I was just wondering, if you're if you're getting
your house, did you just go and get some water
and some dirt.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
And make some mud?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
And most people did.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Most people did it that way, right, So we got
we pay people to do that for us now because who.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Was moving out of their house that they had built
back then? Who built a house out of mud bricks
and then three years later said, you know, I'm gonna
move the other side.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Of town now.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I went to Riverview.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
People now they just move across town because there's a
newer area, Like there's nothing wrong with the house they're in.
They're like, well that area of there looks cool, so
let's just move across town for no reason.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah. And that's I'm not slamming us. I just that's
just what we've been conditioned to do. Uh and and
and the way the way Western culture is.
Speaker 7 (17:46):
I've always been the type that I've I've fixed everything.
I've always bought that ugly duckley and then made it
the way I wanted to make you. So I've never
gone after what's attracted. When it comes to that, there
are other things in my life that I have. This
one particular job that I had, I went after it
because it was attractive and the money was good.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
This was a number of years ago.
Speaker 7 (18:10):
But the boss and I know the Lord, I know
in my spirit even though I wasn't serving him at
the point. At that time, it was like I was
having all these questions and I didn't go to the
Lord about it. And I worked for and this guy
was a royal prick. Sorry, he was just he was
the worst boss you can ever imagine. But because I
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picked what was attractive and I thought that, oh man,
this is great, I made a rash decision. I didn't
obviously pray about it because I wasn't serving the Lord
at the time, and it was it proved to be
a miserable experience for Meray.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
It really was.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Is that what we do as men do We make
rash decisions and then we have to live with the
consequences and then we asked God to bail us out.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, I think we choose things that it feeds our ego.
So it's a you choose maybe you're looking ne to
use car and it's a really cool looking car, but
it's like, why is it so cheap?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Was it flooded? I don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It looks cool. I'm going to look cool in that car.
It's going to reflect well on me. And you know,
even even with the girlfriend thing in high school, you
want the whatever, the cool check or the cheerleader chick
because it makes you look good, even if you know,
even if the relationship is dysfunctional or terrible.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
So I think a lot of times it goes it
goes back to pride.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's like so many of the bad things or wrong
things we do, it goes back to pride in how
it makes, how it reflects on us. Does it make
me look cool that I bought this house even though
you know, maybe there's mold in it, and maybe maybe
in the long run it's going to be a headache,
But on the outward appearance it looks great.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So I went for it.
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Rash decisions instead of taking taking time in pro I mean,
I know you're young. Have you have you done anything
rash that you regret that's been attractive as as opposed
to thinking it's going to be fruitful for you.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Some of the things that I did were four other
people and and like you know, I bought I bought
my mama car and at the time, no problem, you know,
and it was the coolest thing I've ever done, you know,
such a joy to do. And that was before I
bought myself anything cool, when I was you know, doing
decently well. But then that ended up being you know,
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probably not the best decision. And so maybe that was rash.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Probably that was rash.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
But she's happy and still driving it, and that makes
me happy, you know that I can do that for her.
So yeah, that was That's probably one that was rash,
that shouldn't have done, but just excited to do and
and just did it. You know.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
In Genesis forty nine, when you when you go there,
it says that Jacob called for a sentence, said, assemble
yourselves around me, that I may tell you what will
happen to you and your descendants in the days to come.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
And he goes on.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
And he starts telling them, you know, singing and Levira brothers,
you know, just he tells them to bury.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Me where Leah is buried.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Okay, there is no mention of Rachel whatsoever in Genesis
forty nine, So he chose what was attractive in Genesis
twenty nine and got Leah who was fruitful, But in
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the end she's not mentioned. Rachel's not mentioned anywhere. So
what was his life like with Leah all those years
before he tells his sons where he wants to be buried.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
It had to be pretty special.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So do you think he grew to love Leah more
than Rachel?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Oh? I think so.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
And this is what he says, I'm to be gathered
to my people bury me and my father's in the
cave that is in the field that Efron hit tight,
in the cave in the field of mal I'm sorry,
malc Pula east of Memory, in the land of Kingdom
that Abraham brought along with the field of Ephry and
hit tight to possess a burial site. There they buried
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Abraham and Sarah his wife, and they buried Isaac and
Rebecca his wife, And there I buried Leah. The field
and the cave that is in it was purchased from
the Sun's head.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
What happened to Rachel Man, I'm not sure. Was she
a stage five clinger?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I've never heard that before, never saw a wedding crashers
did you did? I only saw it once. You guys
watch every movie ten times and memorize it. I saw
it once.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Talked to Hudson.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Lesson lessons learned through this a little scenario of do
we get what's attractive or do we try to try
to focus on what's fruitful?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
And this is just another of a million.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Lessons in God's Word. And this is why when I
am with my younger guys in our group, I just
stress like reading God's word because every single lesson that
we need to know about life is in here. And
we're either going to get in his word and read
it and learn it and be able to avoid these,
you know, the situations, or we're gonna make the mistake
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and go through it ourselves and learn the hard way.
It'd be waysier if I would have just read all
this growing up and still make mistakes, but like, this
is a huge lesson for life in this story, and
or you'd take David's life, you know. I mean there's
everything that we could do wrong. They did wrong, you know,
and we just don't read the word and then we
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just we just learned the hard way on ourselves, and
then we end up dealing with the consequences, the earthly consequences.
Like we said, where you reap what you so you know,
God takes it all away in our eternal life, but
you know here there's consequences.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So this story, it's like there's a theme throughout the
Bible where God chooses the lowly things. He chooses the
foolest things that can found the wise. He doesn't always
choose like what's attractive. And even even Jesus didn't come
the way people thought he would, you know, they wanted
him to be like this this warrior and this king
on a you know, on a horse, but he was
born in a stable. Like everything that you know throughout
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the Bible, you just see God using the lowly things,
the things that you wouldn't look at and go that's
you know, like like even David, they didn't look at him,
go that's.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
The guy you know he chose. They look at all
of his brothers who were taller than him, and old.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Was pimply faced and redheaded.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
And but whenever he did, like when God did, when
he chose Saul, he was he was.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
He was the guy.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
He was heading head and shoulders of everybody else looked
looked good, ended up being a disaster. So so here's
here's Leah, who's not not the attractive one. She's rejected
and despise, but she was the one that was fruitful.
So I mean, I think that's encouragement for people who
maybe they feel like they don't they don't feel like
they measure up in some way. God still uses those people,
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and he does it more often than not, it seems
in the Bible so many of the stories we see.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
So now these guys are walking here in Brevard County, Florida,
or is your travels to New York or wherever you're
going to be? Garrett's head in Chicago. What lesson can
we learn as we're traversing?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Now?
Speaker 5 (25:23):
What about what about the church today? Is the church
turned to a what's attractive thing? And then Western world?
Speaker 7 (25:34):
One thing that bothers me more than anything else is
what some of these girls and women wear at church,
yes and out, not just at church. I mean, I'm
just like, Okay, men are visual beings, so you know
exactly what they're what they're trying to do. You guys
work out the gym. When I go to the gym,
I go with obscure hours because I don't want to
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see that.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Sure, it makes it tough.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Get some extra wraps though, motivation extra ten on each side. Yeah,
I like going during those times getting weight up.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, okay, but I go to an older older
most they're all predominantly old people pretty much. I don't
see too many young people in there that are that
are working out. But I can't put myself in that situation.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
I stare at the ceiling a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
That's why I like going early in the morning because
most people that go at five in the morning are
serious about being there.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
They're not there to hang out here scene.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
So that's that's one when I gotta get it done
and get changed, get to work.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I gotta I don't want have time to Yeah.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
But what I think modesty has been thrown out of
the window. You know, I don't know who the dude
was and invented yoga pants, but you know that whole thing.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
It's like, and there should be a weight limit on those, Yeah,
say they do not wear over one hundred and twenty
five pounds.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
You should only stretch so far and then like, yeah,
holy cow, but it's accepted today and and you know,
we got here. We got here because people want to
look like the next person, like your guys and the
wife beaters.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, but also as men, we need to not feed that,
we need to not celebrate that.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
But I understand because when you see reels on here
of musicians, female musicians and whatever else I don't know,
only fans, you know, and all.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
That, they're making it easiest easy for us to choose
the uh what looks good?
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Right, It's not hard to choose.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Sure, But I think the mark of im mature man
is that they don't they don't bite on that, they
don't go for that. They're just like, look, I know
there's more to it than that, and so I'm not
going to react to it. And like you guys are,
like you've said, you try to guard your eyes and
guard your heart against that because you don't want to
be tempted by that.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
You don't want to that in your head.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Second second, that's the best thing I've ever heard from your.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Second Yeah, I heard it from a pastor when we
were living in Virginia and just talking about if you
see a bill, if you see a pretty woman, and
you know, like, you're not responsible for that first glance
you see them, but you're responsible for what you do
after that?
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Is it the second second? Do you keep looking?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Do you keep gawking, or do you just look away
and say, Okay, I'm moving on.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
And that's something you can train yourself to do.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
If you get to where you look at it and
you feel a little uncomfortable, that's probably a good thing.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Sure, But that's just how we're wired. We like visual beauty.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
That's why and everything the porn industry is what is
one hundred and thirty billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Now something like that.
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I think it's more than that now, buddy. It increases
from year to year. And as that increases, so does
things like the trafficking stuff, kids getting kidnapped, and every
time we push a button on a phone or a
computer screen to go there, we're increasing the likelihood of that,
and all because of a visual.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And I blame I blame men for that.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
It's like, if we were men of character, then the
audience for that would not be there. It diminish, right,
So it's like, let's be men and let's not give
into that. But there's a lot of guys who don't care,
don't think it's the problem.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
A little porn never hurt nobody how many times have
we heard that with this ministry since twenty sixteen?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Man do porn every once in a while. It didn't
It doesn't really hurt anybody. Just do a little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
And we know guys who has devastated their lives and
now they have to have all these crazy measures in
place to keep from falling back into it.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
And it's not that way with everything.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
You know, we're going through a situation right now with
someone that you know, little beer's never going to hurt me,
and it's hurting him in a big way.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
And it's tough, and it's it's how we try to
fill something inside of ourselves with something other than Jesus.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
You know the.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Meme that went out today for our Instagram. Everything changed
for me when I finally quit trying so hard and
actually focused on Jesus, when I understood who he is
and what he did to me. I realized the unconditional
love and grace my father has for me. And you
want to talk about freedom, just grow in the knowledge
of his grace and focus on him and all you
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do it? Uh? How do we how do we train
our hearts and our minds to shift to focus on
Jesus at those moments.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Because it's Oh, it will always be fruitful, right, Yeah,
Everything that we choose, if it's Christ centered and revolves
around him, will be fruitful.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
It won't be attractive, yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Because that's that's Satan's way of taking us away from
the Father, dangling that apple? Did he really say you
can't eat this?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
And yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Did he really say you can't look at a little born?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
That's Uh, it's evident today you believe in forgiveness, right,
I just ask forgiveness when you're done.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Now, just the consequences we pay because of those decisions
we make.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Uh is Uh.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
If we don't make make the decision on what's fruitful
in our lives, then we'll pay the consequences right here,
right now?
Speaker 3 (31:00):
What's else on your heart on that?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
I'm good man.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
I just from a younger guy's perspective. G.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
I think what was discussed at UH with Patrick last weekend.
He said, look look at things through the lens of eternity, and.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
You can. You can do that all the time. And
I think when.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
You're walking around, when you're speaking, you're either blessing or cursing.
You're you're you're either your actions are either opening a
door to the heavenlys or you're opening a door to
the demonic.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I don't think that the more that I read this,
I don't think.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
There's any neutrality in everything that we do. So if
you just think about that, that can make your decision
making a lot easier.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
And it's not you know, you just got to be
conscious of it, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
And ultimately there's freedom and right doing what the Word says.
Being trained by the word, you're not going to be
bound by lust or by dependency on alcohol or whatever
it is.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
In the long run, it is freedom right.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Well, cool, I appreciate you bringing that up today.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Bro, It's the decisions we make every day, of the
thousands of decisions we make every day, just think about it. Well,
we're making them through the lens of eternity. And if
we are the fruit, his fruit will follow. And I
think that's very apparent and abundant in what we're talking
about here. It's been a great few weeks for the
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ministry with Matthew west Patrick Young Evin at Church of
Era was a hit, and we'll be circling back up
there August the twenty third with our old friends coming back.
His name is Ali far Hati, born in Tehran as
a proud Muslim, saved by Christ when he immigrated the
United States. He's got a great story and Bacon story
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is the best. Well we'll save it for that. So
we're going to really peel back some layers with Ali
and he's he's stoked. He's ready for to talk to
him a couple of days ago. So they'll be in town.
So that's August twenty third, So if you hear that date,
put it on your calendar.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Guys, other than that, Jeremy Sheffey, we miss you.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
I know you're doing something with a family this weekend,
and we love you, bro. We can't wait to see
you back. Not that we don't like Garrett, but Garrett
doesn't fill up a chair quite like you do. So
Garrett expanded him. So can you imagine if Cheffy would
have been here for Patrick Young and you all of us.
That's a big group. That's a big group. So but anyway,
(33:36):
thanks so much. Follow us Impactmanistries dot org. We just
loaded up our devotional videos from our events from Zach
Williams to the Gainesville event to the event we had
last week with people just giving their testimonies of grace
in their lives. So if you have five or six
minutes to listen to them, I'm sure you'll be touched
and you can relate. So other than that, check us
(33:58):
out on social media, give us a life, could follow
a share.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
It doesn't cost you a dime.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
But if you do want to help us out with
this ministry, just click on the good button. We would
love to you to help us crush Satan under our feet.
And so with that said, we will catch you next
time right here.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Until then, I am Trey, I'm Garrett, I'm Brad. We
are the.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
So what we messed that with?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
M man always do Yeah, it's never you.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
And warm We're imperfect people.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Guys. It's freaking almost July.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Yeah, last stadium.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Baby, next week you leave yep, last stadium of your
whole tour.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yes, awesome, dude, how many do you do it?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I'll pad This is ang
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