October 11, 2025 • 22 mins
In this powerful episode, Dr. John Oda shares his journey from working alongside legends like Tony Robbins, Chet Holmes, Jay Abraham, and Joseph McClendon III to building his own path as a world-class business strategist. He reveals how mastery, not mimicry, creates legacy—and how his BSSM-1 Model helps companies uncover hidden millions. If you’ve ever compared yourself to others, this episode will remind you that your difference is your destiny
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Dr. John Oda is an International Best-Selling Author and Business Growth Strategist who has helped businesses uncover hidden millions by blending neuroscience and business mastery. Get a free chapter of his book *Unlimited Business Growth* plus $10,000 worth of online courses at https://ubgp.pnbcgroup.com/book. Connect with Dr. Oda on LinkedIn and discover more at DrJohnOda.com
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Dr. John Oda is an International Best-Selling Author and Business Growth Strategist who has helped businesses uncover hidden millions by blending neuroscience and business mastery. Get a free chapter of his book *Unlimited Business Growth* plus $10,000 worth of online courses at https://ubgp.pnbcgroup.com/book. Connect with Dr. Oda on LinkedIn and discover more at DrJohnOda.com
Find all my articles, books, and downloads
https://drjohnoda.com/pr-media
Double Your Sales Using NLP
https://ubgp.pnbcgroup.com/
Sport performance ( mind coach) If you want to take your game to the next level,
https://sports.pnbcgroup.com
Six-Hour Business Assessment to find hidden millions in your business
https://drjohnoda.com/new-executive-coaching
Need a speaker at your next event
https://drjohnoda.com/keynote-speaking
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Doctor John O. The Method where a
neuroscience is meat business mastery. Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm your host, Doctor John Odle, international bestseller and author
Business Growth Strategists. In each episode, I reveal strategies, frameworks,
and breakthrough to help you uncomfort hitting millions in your business.
We focus on master of leadership, sales, breaking through mental
barriers every area of your business. Guys, today's gonna be
(00:29):
pretty cool show.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Today. The show is called.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm not Tony Robbins, I'm not Chet Holmes, I'm not JOSEPHM.
Clinton the Third, I'm not Jay Abraham. In this episode,
I'm gonna I'm gonna add value. It's gonna be unbelievable.
(00:55):
So here's the one I need to do that. If
you haven't already subscribed, leave me at five. I'm helping.
I want to reach out to other entrepreneurs just like yourself.
So pass us to five of your friends because we
know that birds of the feather fock together and download
my chapter of my book, Unlimited Business Growth. And when
(01:17):
you buy the book, you get ten thousand dollars online
courses you get see if I can go on the
top of my head, I do a program on how
to be an expert inside your business and go setting.
Carl Scott give one on leadership. Scott Conway give one
on emotional intelligence, Doctor Conway, Doctor will Al didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Give one on.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Addictions from food, alcohol to drugs. And last, but not least,
Andrew give one on automation your business phenomenal programs over
one hundred videos. It's really a value. So pretty jazzed
about that. So let's go back inside the show. So
let me tell you a story about what happened to me.
(02:03):
So you know, people know me, ask me, he says,
doctor is talking to a client. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That says you know, who's your mentor?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And I smile because you know that question always takes
me back, you know, And I tell people up front,
I says, you know, I had an honor of working
with guys like you know, uh, the greatest minds and
business call them the business titans. I worked with Anthony
Robins first, I'll work with Chettholms, right, so Chetolmes, I
worked with BBI, that's business Mesas International. First was chet
(02:36):
Hoolmes International, and we merged with Tony Robbins, right, and
it was a great partnership. But you know, but it
was Cheholmes Company and we merged with Tony Robins, so
it's called Business Ben's International. I worked with a guy
named called Jay Abraham. Jay Abraham was in still as
a freaking genius.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Cheolmes, as you know, died back in twenty twelve. God
rest his soul. I worked with a guy named Joseph
Clinton and the third and I go and all this stuff,
as well as doctor Will Horden.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So I've been working with some of the best of
the best.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And my another one I would come him is I
model and the model that I was looking at and
I was modeling Tony Robbins, and I modeled a lot of.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Things that he did to actually get to where I'm
at right now.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So at business practice in international, I I just didn't coach.
I trained the coaches as well, you know, and you
know so and I trained you know the coaches. I
trained the top vice president of consultants, and I stood
inside the trenches, you know. Back then I ranked one
of the top of ten coaches. And we ranked it
(03:44):
by finance, by how much money that you're making. We're
ranked it by how many how many companies of that
you can grow so, and my closing rate at the
time was sixty nine. And also you know, you know,
and most of the other ones was you know, they're
a little bit struggling, but you know, mom was pretty
(04:04):
much high. Because what I used, what w what really
got me better is I I use what we call
it is narrow lingualistic programming for sales and LOP for sales,
and and.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
For me when I came, it was more of a shift.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Right, So when I walked in the place, there closing
mills like a thousand dollars a month or twenty six
hundred dollars a month a dow. Imagine back in two
thousand and eight, right, they're closing two thousand, a thousand
dollars a month, two thousand dollars a month and everything else,
which I thought was fine. Well, when I started doing it,
I started closing deals for twenty six hundred a month
than ten thousand and then fourteen thousand dollars deals right
(04:39):
for clients who were amerking between three to five thousand,
three to five million dollars per year. Right, So my
biggest goal was to try to maximize it, and and
and and and and have a different presentation style that
I actually have so at the time, and nobody was
doing that at all. My first I think forty five
(04:59):
days in the business, I closed to do it for
ten thousand dollars for a couple of doctors, right, and
it was just almost like how rock your banister, you
know when he break the four minute mile. Once I
proved it was possible, then a lot of the other
coatries was regular. It was doing the exact same thing, right.
So my so my biggest goal that I had doing
this whole thing was carrying the torch. So, you know,
(05:23):
so one of my clients, you know, just let's call
him Jeff all right, he asked me, it's Doc Daugha.
He says, you know, do you have any photos with
Tony Robins.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Or Chet Holmes.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I laughed, and I asked him, you know, do you
have any photos of the last place that you work at?
And then I said something, I said, do they have
any photos of me?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And he choking and said no, no, I don't, I
don't I And then I said, you know, well listen
to me, man. You know, at Chet Holmes, I was
only one of two hundred coaches.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's how I was one of two hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But the difference is I raised myself at a higher standard.
I came in from the tealthworld. I came from, you know.
Before I came to his place, I was doingp I was.
I'm a master trainer in NP, right, so I had
a different foundation. I also was with the Tony Robbins
group as well, went to the summers, went to the workshops,
went to everything else. So I had a stronger foundation
(06:26):
than most of the coaches. But I was only one
of two hundred coaches that's time, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Did they know me?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Of course, you know, tall, dark cancer genius was myself.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But no, they knew.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
We'll only had I think a couple black coaches in
the whole organization, you know, you know, and most of
us doing extremely well, right, you know. So, But when
Chad Holmes passed away back in twenty twelve, I made
a moral commitment to cure the torch, to teach his
strategies and wisdoms he literally poured into me.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Right, So let me get one thing straight.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Before Tony Robbins became this big globally name which he'd
been working on for forty plus years, Tony Robbins modeled
Jay Brahm, Jay Bram business genius, and he also m
modeled Richard Bandler and John Grinder for NP and of
course Jim Rome for the philosophy. So back in two
(07:28):
thousand and eight, Checking Tony became together and they created
the Powerhouse business for TWAS International. And that's where I
sharpened my sword. That I thought I was really great
before I got there, I really did still do. But
when I got there, I roughed on my edges and
I got even better. But let me explain new Chet
(07:48):
that most people don't know, in which I was telling
as as a as my client potential client at the time.
I said, listen to me. Chet didn't believe in any
type of theory.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You believe the mastery.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So when you train under Chet, it's a little bit different.
We we had to show up and we had to
prove that we knew our craft. So we would have
Chet what you know. For example, I would go like
on sales calls right, and sometimes Check was there and
sometimes he wasn't. One time he came, I was not ready,
and he popped on the phone. He said, oh, are
(08:22):
you ready? I said yeah, And I read this script
and I'd even study man he writ me a new
butto Oh my god. It was literally embarrassing. Everyone elected me. Man,
are you gonna study? I said, Man, he was right.
I was not ready. But let me explain to you,
that's the last time he's gonna ever embarrass me cause
I didn't know my stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I try to.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
You know, all you do sells and you try to
wing it. No, Check believed in mastery. You had to
know his stuff. You had to know everything. And I
still hold those same standards, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So what we what we had to do. We had
to stand in front of.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Our peers and we had to deliver be just say
the core story presentation. And if you didn't pass it,
you didn't get any clients period. NAA, it's nothing, you know.
So and then what my concept was working with him
is you need to say stay stay ready, don't get ready, right,
(09:23):
So around Chet his philosophy will stay ready to get ready.
He would also drill the dream one hunter is campaign.
That was his favorite thing. The core story is dreams campaign, right,
and we would have to actually show them that we
can do it presentation in front of all these guys
who was really rock stars, really was and they would
literally eat you up a new butthole if you didn't
(09:44):
really do your job. We learned from Scott Horman optimizing
your business how to so I can take any company
and that's what I do that you can show him
how to make be tweenty a half million.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
To four million dollars time the business.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Why because of the optimization, right, and we I had
to learn this stuff and we had to present it,
and we had to know this stuff as well as
take our clients.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So when I tell people, I said, then I was
in the trenches.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I worked with companies, grew companies fifteen hundred percent in
three years, doubled the business, and doubled the net profit
in eight months. Right, Why because that was our demand.
They pushed just beyond our expectation. That environment shaped me.
So that's why when Tony Robin created Business Mastery, Chet
(10:32):
was besides him.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Because most of Business Mastery, you know, they're not just
really Chet Holmes.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right, Chetolmes built eighty percent of Business Mastery since they
worked together. Tony mentioned that he made it better and
he improved it, which is fine.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So I had the honor of attending Business Mastery over
five times, working with clients refining my craft, refining my
skill set, working with over forty six freak nations. So
but my biggest goal about it is I'm a modelar guys.
I like the model masters. So I modeled Tony and
(11:10):
in the books that he read, the sev hunch of
books are that he read, I read the exact same ones.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Why I wanted to model it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Then I had a breakthrough guys and work with this
guy named you probably know him, Joseph mccleanon the third
that's Anthonio Robins, head trainer. He does upw day two
in day four. Been working with him since nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I used to pull on him.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I used to understand what he did and how he
did things, how confidence connection. And at the time, I'm
telling you, man, my skill set was not the greatest
well man.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Thirty years later, I'm a freaking beast.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Why because I modeled these guys, I understand it, I
did it. And when I got my master trainer and
then people started doing n OP I start. I was
working in the Minteld field, So I worked on my
craft in the mintelds field, worked on adolescens and teens
and parents. And when you work around parents and teens,
especially teenagers.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
If you're not good, they'll tell you some days was
not the greatest.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
But I didn't care. It didn't make me a difference.
My number one always be the best. Most therapists do
one in two groups a week. I was doing twenty
a week.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Why.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I wanted to work and I wanted to have that.
I want to build that muscle. So I worked on
it and worked on and worked on different strategies, work
on different things. None people say, can you speak, of course,
how many hours hour?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Two hour? Great? One or two groups? I'm done?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Okay, fine, keynote, Absolutely, I can do that training, No
big deal, right?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Why? Because I trained my muscle. So Jose was a
huge part of my life for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Running the stuff I was taking it opage is.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Showing me different stuff and different strategy. Huge. And then
I learned from what I caused the.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Marketing genius of the world, Jay Abraham. Oh my god,
you guys don't know Jay, and look him up. Jay
Abraham probably made people hundreds of billions of dollars. So
I so I worked with j You know, I'm still
working with Jay right now and right And also a
guy named doctor Will Horden loved the guy.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That that's the n OP guy, right.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So doctor Horden worked directly with Bandler and Grinder and Dylts,
the founders of n OP. So if you look at
my background, look at Tony Robbins, I modeled it.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
The only difference there is only a tad bit difference
is he's a little bit richer than I am in
a billionaire, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And don't get me wrong, I'm gonna give to a
billion and then hit to my sex tillion about thirty years.
But I'm on the path, right, just take a little
bit longer time. I'm a tad bit better looking than Tony,
but you know we're close. So anyway, so my big
thing about it, I went to the trenches. The difference
is I've been I was a coach, I was a
VP of consultant, so I've done all that stuff already.
(13:45):
So the thing about it when when Tony spoke is
I was reading Tony says he's speaking four time today,
because most speakers don't take speak for four time today.
And my biggest thing about it is that's the case.
I was speaking twenty groups of a week for twelve years.
He did it for four years. I did it for
twelve years, so my skill set went beyond what I
(14:05):
wanted to do because I wanted to be like the best.
I didn't want to be average. I want to be
just great. I want to be the best. But to
be honest, he the toughest audience is teenagers. They're so
freaking honest. I would throw everything around them first to
see if it worked. If it worked for them, I
don't worked for every day. Well, it's because they're so
beautily honest. You can't fit with teens if you're born.
(14:26):
They'll tell you if you think, they'll expose you. That's why, man,
I came up with this authentic style. Man, I'm directing
to the point. There's no flaw. What you see is
what you get. What you see, what you hear me
on here, when you see me in person, on the
exact same way, maybe a little bit louder, but the
exact same way, right, Because I want to be authentic,
(14:47):
I want to change. So the biggest difference is a
lot of people. They can talk it, but they were
never in the trenches. I earned a mastery and I
you'll practice daddy practice each and every day because that's
my goal.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
So I wanted to creep my own path. So let
me explend you why. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I grew up in the family as ten biological siblings, Right,
I made of ten. All my life, I was compared
to my brothers and my sisters.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
They're smarter.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I had a brother named Joe. Oh my god, this guy,
Jodah God wrestled so get looking, smart basketball player.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I mean, he was the best of the best growing up.
That compared me to him.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
You know, you're not as smart as Joe, and I
was a good looking as Joe. Yeah, man, Joe used
to average this and you don't have me that. And
I used to hate the comparison. Really hated sisters. Oh
my god, you know you're they're much smarter. You're this,
So when you're eight out of ten, Yeah, I had men.
Out of the seven, I probably had about five all
staries like rock staries, and I'm like, my goodness, and
(15:53):
I hated that, right, I think honestly, see, that's why
I went inside my career of doing business and psychology
because they're not doing combining them both.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
They might have done business, but they didn't do psychology. Part.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's why I immersed myself in that so I can
be fucking stead alone. Because when you're having ten siblings,
you are compared all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And I was compared all.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
The time all my freaking life to about forties. When
I started writing my books and started doing something different
than what they've done, and everything changed. I started stopped
getting the comparisons. If I would have known that, I
would have came out with the book when I was
twenty because I was tired of hearing that I probably
have much knowledge. But it's a great thought. So my goal,
I told the guy, is and I'm not. I don't
(16:36):
want to be Tony Robins or Chet Holmes or Joseph
or doctor Horden or any of those Jay Abraham.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I love those guys. I love them to death. Well,
but my outcome is I want to beat the doctor
John Olden.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Where neuroscienceists meet business mastery, imagine from neuroscience to himself.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I have thirty eight years experience, started.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Back in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
This is massive.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I started that when I started working with Joseph back
in nineteen ninety five. Combining I I got tons of
of experience. What me, what makes me different from anybody else?
I believe that I've blueprint. It's called the BSSM one model.
So I break down what I did. So I used
to work in mentals, as you guys realized, but we
(17:25):
had a DSM four when I was working, and that's
more of the They diagnosed the mental of behaviors and
everything else. Right, So I created a BSSM one model.
So the b stand for the business foundation. I look
at the structure of the business. So I'm not like
the architecture look at the make a pretty little big company.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I'm more of a civil engineer. I look at the foundation.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I look at the structure, and I d and I
dig inside that dirt and I create, you know, a
lot of different things to see where we can throw
folks in a low hanging feud.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
We figure out the life cycle of your business.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So just say you are in your sixties, and you
could be in your young adult to maturity stages.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
But just say your business is maybe mm.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Just started out right, and your business could be maybe
teenager or terrible twos, well a terrible two you trying
to get your identity teenager? You cocky yere again, you
don't wanna listen to anybody, and boy, do we get
a lot of those type of businesses. Right, So we'll
figure out where you're at so we can actually work
with you. Cause that makes sense? Yes or yes, beautiful,
(18:32):
I heard yes. Then we focus on the symptoms part.
We focus on four symptoms. We focus focus, folks, on
your leadership, what leadership styt that you have.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
We focus on the culture of your business.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Team UH, team building, teamwork, and we focus on mental health.
We focus on on the burnouts and the stress out
or owes you even the addictions and will help you
with the UH, with the symptoms and your business.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Most business coaches can't.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Go there because they don't have the mental health experience,
the combined experience with my group and I, we have
over one hundred and fifty years experiencing this type of thing.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Then we systemize only three areas sales process, I see
sales teams. Some people are making thirty thousand, people are
making five so on the same products and service.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
To me though, to have a.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Sales system, time management, you don't want to be a biblehead,
and we use educational marketing. We want to make you
become the expert now. And last but not least, we monetize.
We're in turn confusion into cash in thirty days.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Right. And my style, I have.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
To tell you, is blend with my parents are Dustin
and Wordinoda. I call wisdom and knowledge a blend of
Tony Robbins. I'm direct, I'm trying, I'm transformational, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Unshakable, and of course I am freaking likable. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So I hold a lot of different things. So I,
oh my god, I said, man, listen to them. Man,
if your standards prove it by a photo, maybe I
can't convince you. But if your standards is based on
my results and my clients proven my worth, well, then
I listen to me. I got you so a little bit.
(20:15):
A couple of things mentioned earlier. Well, A gentleman from
the from the UK, I think waste management his net profit,
and he doubled his company in less than eight months.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Right. Another person from the.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
States, UH think uh medical company and increased their business
fifteen hundred percent three years a right, And of course
seminars all used to do. I do more like a
metaphors type of similars. I did the board break, and
you know, and I literally changed the his whole company.
Right in different styles and so if it either I
(20:52):
could be the coaching part of it, or they do
a similar part of it, or I created a similar
like I used to do with parents and teens.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
But the creativity is there.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
So when I told him, I said, man, I'm not
you know, I'm not your Tony Robins, R.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Jose looks and in the Jay Abraham or doctor Will Horden.
I love those guys, my mentors, and I still look
at them.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I still go to this summers and workshops so I
can get one knucket or one thing, one thing to.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Complete change my life. I will. So here goes guys,
if you are.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Ready for uh a, a breakthrough or are you gonna
get over your limiting his beliefs or unlocking hitting a
million inside your company? Cause all of 'em, all you
guys have 'em right. That's thus you've been in business
for two years. Let's schedule a six hour Business Growth
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Here's something else. We do have a parenting one as well.
(22:04):
It's called the Doctor's Corner with doctor John Odor. We
talk about parenting issues, we talk about teen issues. SAM
type of format fifteen twenty five minutes of talking when
we have a guest on a little bit of it
is longer. Number one outcome is to show you the
of the of the to show you the knowledge I
(22:29):
have working with adolescents teams as well as business and
sometimes they're running together. So anyway, I thank you guys
so much. On the links below, I do have links
for my pr so you can show the articles it was,
the podcast and the teen is podcasts should have some
downloaded boats as well, and all the books, all that
(22:51):
I wrote and everything else.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Since you have got until next time, take care and
during make this day, this week, this month magnificent by
for now
Welcome to the Doctor John O. The Method where a
neuroscience is meat business mastery. Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm your host, Doctor John Odle, international bestseller and author
Business Growth Strategists. In each episode, I reveal strategies, frameworks,
and breakthrough to help you uncomfort hitting millions in your business.
We focus on master of leadership, sales, breaking through mental
barriers every area of your business. Guys, today's gonna be
(00:29):
pretty cool show.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Today. The show is called.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm not Tony Robbins, I'm not Chet Holmes, I'm not JOSEPHM.
Clinton the Third, I'm not Jay Abraham. In this episode,
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let me tell you a story about what happened to me.
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So you know, people know me, ask me, he says,
doctor is talking to a client. You know.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That says you know, who's your mentor?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And I smile because you know that question always takes
me back, you know, And I tell people up front,
I says, you know, I had an honor of working
with guys like you know, uh, the greatest minds and
business call them the business titans. I worked with Anthony
Robins first, I'll work with Chettholms, right, so Chetolmes, I
worked with BBI, that's business Mesas International. First was chet
(02:36):
Hoolmes International, and we merged with Tony Robbins, right, and
it was a great partnership. But you know, but it
was Cheholmes Company and we merged with Tony Robins, so
it's called Business Ben's International. I worked with a guy
named called Jay Abraham. Jay Abraham was in still as
a freaking genius.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Cheolmes, as you know, died back in twenty twelve. God
rest his soul. I worked with a guy named Joseph
Clinton and the third and I go and all this stuff,
as well as doctor Will Horden.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So I've been working with some of the best of
the best.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
And my another one I would come him is I
model and the model that I was looking at and
I was modeling Tony Robbins, and I modeled a lot of.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Things that he did to actually get to where I'm
at right now.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
So at business practice in international, I I just didn't coach.
I trained the coaches as well, you know, and you
know so and I trained you know the coaches. I
trained the top vice president of consultants, and I stood
inside the trenches, you know. Back then I ranked one
of the top of ten coaches. And we ranked it
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by finance, by how much money that you're making. We're
ranked it by how many how many companies of that
you can grow so, and my closing rate at the
time was sixty nine. And also you know, you know,
and most of the other ones was you know, they're
a little bit struggling, but you know, mom was pretty
(04:04):
much high. Because what I used, what w what really
got me better is I I use what we call
it is narrow lingualistic programming for sales and LOP for sales,
and and.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
For me when I came, it was more of a shift.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Right, So when I walked in the place, there closing
mills like a thousand dollars a month or twenty six
hundred dollars a month a dow. Imagine back in two
thousand and eight, right, they're closing two thousand, a thousand
dollars a month, two thousand dollars a month and everything else,
which I thought was fine. Well, when I started doing it,
I started closing deals for twenty six hundred a month
than ten thousand and then fourteen thousand dollars deals right
(04:39):
for clients who were amerking between three to five thousand,
three to five million dollars per year. Right, So my
biggest goal was to try to maximize it, and and
and and and and have a different presentation style that
I actually have so at the time, and nobody was
doing that at all. My first I think forty five
(04:59):
days in the business, I closed to do it for
ten thousand dollars for a couple of doctors, right, and
it was just almost like how rock your banister, you
know when he break the four minute mile. Once I
proved it was possible, then a lot of the other
coatries was regular. It was doing the exact same thing, right.
So my so my biggest goal that I had doing
this whole thing was carrying the torch. So, you know,
(05:23):
so one of my clients, you know, just let's call
him Jeff all right, he asked me, it's Doc Daugha.
He says, you know, do you have any photos with
Tony Robins.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Or Chet Holmes.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I laughed, and I asked him, you know, do you
have any photos of the last place that you work at?
And then I said something, I said, do they have
any photos of me?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And he choking and said no, no, I don't, I
don't I And then I said, you know, well listen
to me, man. You know, at Chet Holmes, I was
only one of two hundred coaches.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
That's how I was one of two hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But the difference is I raised myself at a higher standard.
I came in from the tealthworld. I came from, you know.
Before I came to his place, I was doingp I was.
I'm a master trainer in NP, right, so I had
a different foundation. I also was with the Tony Robbins
group as well, went to the summers, went to the workshops,
went to everything else. So I had a stronger foundation
(06:26):
than most of the coaches. But I was only one
of two hundred coaches that's time, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Did they know me?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Of course, you know, tall, dark cancer genius was myself.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But no, they knew.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
We'll only had I think a couple black coaches in
the whole organization, you know, you know, and most of
us doing extremely well, right, you know. So, But when
Chad Holmes passed away back in twenty twelve, I made
a moral commitment to cure the torch, to teach his
strategies and wisdoms he literally poured into me.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Right, So let me get one thing straight.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Before Tony Robbins became this big globally name which he'd
been working on for forty plus years, Tony Robbins modeled
Jay Brahm, Jay Bram business genius, and he also m
modeled Richard Bandler and John Grinder for NP and of
course Jim Rome for the philosophy. So back in two
(07:28):
thousand and eight, Checking Tony became together and they created
the Powerhouse business for TWAS International. And that's where I
sharpened my sword. That I thought I was really great
before I got there, I really did still do. But
when I got there, I roughed on my edges and
I got even better. But let me explain new Chet
(07:48):
that most people don't know, in which I was telling
as as a as my client potential client at the time.
I said, listen to me. Chet didn't believe in any
type of theory.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
You believe the mastery.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
So when you train under Chet, it's a little bit different.
We we had to show up and we had to
prove that we knew our craft. So we would have
Chet what you know. For example, I would go like
on sales calls right, and sometimes Check was there and
sometimes he wasn't. One time he came, I was not ready,
and he popped on the phone. He said, oh, are
(08:22):
you ready? I said yeah, And I read this script
and I'd even study man he writ me a new
butto Oh my god. It was literally embarrassing. Everyone elected me. Man,
are you gonna study? I said, Man, he was right.
I was not ready. But let me explain to you,
that's the last time he's gonna ever embarrass me cause
I didn't know my stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I try to.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
You know, all you do sells and you try to
wing it. No, Check believed in mastery. You had to
know his stuff. You had to know everything. And I
still hold those same standards, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So what we what we had to do. We had
to stand in front of.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Our peers and we had to deliver be just say
the core story presentation. And if you didn't pass it,
you didn't get any clients period. NAA, it's nothing, you know.
So and then what my concept was working with him
is you need to say stay stay ready, don't get ready, right,
(09:23):
So around Chet his philosophy will stay ready to get ready.
He would also drill the dream one hunter is campaign.
That was his favorite thing. The core story is dreams campaign, right,
and we would have to actually show them that we
can do it presentation in front of all these guys
who was really rock stars, really was and they would
literally eat you up a new butthole if you didn't
(09:44):
really do your job. We learned from Scott Horman optimizing
your business how to so I can take any company
and that's what I do that you can show him
how to make be tweenty a half million.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
To four million dollars time the business.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Why because of the optimization, right, and we I had
to learn this stuff and we had to present it,
and we had to know this stuff as well as
take our clients.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So when I tell people, I said, then I was
in the trenches.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I worked with companies, grew companies fifteen hundred percent in
three years, doubled the business, and doubled the net profit
in eight months. Right, Why because that was our demand.
They pushed just beyond our expectation. That environment shaped me.
So that's why when Tony Robin created Business Mastery, Chet
(10:32):
was besides him.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Because most of Business Mastery, you know, they're not just
really Chet Holmes.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right, Chetolmes built eighty percent of Business Mastery since they
worked together. Tony mentioned that he made it better and
he improved it, which is fine.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So I had the honor of attending Business Mastery over
five times, working with clients refining my craft, refining my
skill set, working with over forty six freak nations. So
but my biggest goal about it is I'm a modelar guys.
I like the model masters. So I modeled Tony and
(11:10):
in the books that he read, the sev hunch of
books are that he read, I read the exact same ones.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Why I wanted to model it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Then I had a breakthrough guys and work with this
guy named you probably know him, Joseph mccleanon the third
that's Anthonio Robins, head trainer. He does upw day two
in day four. Been working with him since nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I used to pull on him.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I used to understand what he did and how he
did things, how confidence connection. And at the time, I'm
telling you, man, my skill set was not the greatest
well man.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Thirty years later, I'm a freaking beast.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Why because I modeled these guys, I understand it, I
did it. And when I got my master trainer and
then people started doing n OP I start. I was
working in the Minteld field, So I worked on my
craft in the mintelds field, worked on adolescens and teens
and parents. And when you work around parents and teens,
especially teenagers.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
If you're not good, they'll tell you some days was
not the greatest.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
But I didn't care. It didn't make me a difference.
My number one always be the best. Most therapists do
one in two groups a week. I was doing twenty
a week.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Why.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I wanted to work and I wanted to have that.
I want to build that muscle. So I worked on
it and worked on and worked on different strategies, work
on different things. None people say, can you speak, of course,
how many hours hour?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Two hour? Great? One or two groups? I'm done?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Okay, fine, keynote, Absolutely, I can do that training, No
big deal, right?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Why? Because I trained my muscle. So Jose was a
huge part of my life for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Running the stuff I was taking it opage is.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Showing me different stuff and different strategy. Huge. And then
I learned from what I caused the.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Marketing genius of the world, Jay Abraham. Oh my god,
you guys don't know Jay, and look him up. Jay
Abraham probably made people hundreds of billions of dollars. So
I so I worked with j You know, I'm still
working with Jay right now and right And also a
guy named doctor Will Horden loved the guy.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
That that's the n OP guy, right.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
So doctor Horden worked directly with Bandler and Grinder and Dylts,
the founders of n OP. So if you look at
my background, look at Tony Robbins, I modeled it.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
The only difference there is only a tad bit difference
is he's a little bit richer than I am in
a billionaire, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And don't get me wrong, I'm gonna give to a
billion and then hit to my sex tillion about thirty years.
But I'm on the path, right, just take a little
bit longer time. I'm a tad bit better looking than Tony,
but you know we're close. So anyway, so my big
thing about it, I went to the trenches. The difference
is I've been I was a coach, I was a
VP of consultant, so I've done all that stuff already.
(13:45):
So the thing about it when when Tony spoke is
I was reading Tony says he's speaking four time today,
because most speakers don't take speak for four time today.
And my biggest thing about it is that's the case.
I was speaking twenty groups of a week for twelve years.
He did it for four years. I did it for
twelve years, so my skill set went beyond what I
(14:05):
wanted to do because I wanted to be like the best.
I didn't want to be average. I want to be
just great. I want to be the best. But to
be honest, he the toughest audience is teenagers. They're so
freaking honest. I would throw everything around them first to
see if it worked. If it worked for them, I
don't worked for every day. Well, it's because they're so
beautily honest. You can't fit with teens if you're born.
(14:26):
They'll tell you if you think, they'll expose you. That's why, man,
I came up with this authentic style. Man, I'm directing
to the point. There's no flaw. What you see is
what you get. What you see, what you hear me
on here, when you see me in person, on the
exact same way, maybe a little bit louder, but the
exact same way, right, Because I want to be authentic,
(14:47):
I want to change. So the biggest difference is a
lot of people. They can talk it, but they were
never in the trenches. I earned a mastery and I
you'll practice daddy practice each and every day because that's
my goal.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
So I wanted to creep my own path. So let
me explend you why. Right.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I grew up in the family as ten biological siblings, Right,
I made of ten. All my life, I was compared
to my brothers and my sisters.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
They're smarter.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I had a brother named Joe. Oh my god, this guy,
Jodah God wrestled so get looking, smart basketball player.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I mean, he was the best of the best growing up.
That compared me to him.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
You know, you're not as smart as Joe, and I
was a good looking as Joe. Yeah, man, Joe used
to average this and you don't have me that. And
I used to hate the comparison. Really hated sisters. Oh
my god, you know you're they're much smarter. You're this,
So when you're eight out of ten, Yeah, I had men.
Out of the seven, I probably had about five all
staries like rock staries, and I'm like, my goodness, and
(15:53):
I hated that, right, I think honestly, see, that's why
I went inside my career of doing business and psychology
because they're not doing combining them both.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
They might have done business, but they didn't do psychology. Part.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's why I immersed myself in that so I can
be fucking stead alone. Because when you're having ten siblings,
you are compared all the time.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And I was compared all.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
The time all my freaking life to about forties. When
I started writing my books and started doing something different
than what they've done, and everything changed. I started stopped
getting the comparisons. If I would have known that, I
would have came out with the book when I was
twenty because I was tired of hearing that I probably
have much knowledge. But it's a great thought. So my goal,
I told the guy, is and I'm not. I don't
(16:36):
want to be Tony Robins or Chet Holmes or Joseph
or doctor Horden or any of those Jay Abraham.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I love those guys. I love them to death. Well,
but my outcome is I want to beat the doctor
John Olden.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Where neuroscienceists meet business mastery, imagine from neuroscience to himself.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I have thirty eight years experience, started.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Back in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
This is massive.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I started that when I started working with Joseph back
in nineteen ninety five. Combining I I got tons of
of experience. What me, what makes me different from anybody else?
I believe that I've blueprint. It's called the BSSM one model.
So I break down what I did. So I used
to work in mentals, as you guys realized, but we
(17:25):
had a DSM four when I was working, and that's
more of the They diagnosed the mental of behaviors and
everything else. Right, So I created a BSSM one model.
So the b stand for the business foundation. I look
at the structure of the business. So I'm not like
the architecture look at the make a pretty little big company.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I'm more of a civil engineer. I look at the foundation.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I look at the structure, and I d and I
dig inside that dirt and I create, you know, a
lot of different things to see where we can throw
folks in a low hanging feud.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
We figure out the life cycle of your business.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So just say you are in your sixties, and you
could be in your young adult to maturity stages.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
But just say your business is maybe mm.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Just started out right, and your business could be maybe
teenager or terrible twos, well a terrible two you trying
to get your identity teenager? You cocky yere again, you
don't wanna listen to anybody, and boy, do we get
a lot of those type of businesses. Right, So we'll
figure out where you're at so we can actually work
with you. Cause that makes sense? Yes or yes, beautiful,
(18:32):
I heard yes. Then we focus on the symptoms part.
We focus on four symptoms. We focus focus, folks, on
your leadership, what leadership styt that you have.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
We focus on the culture of your business.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Team UH, team building, teamwork, and we focus on mental health.
We focus on on the burnouts and the stress out
or owes you even the addictions and will help you
with the UH, with the symptoms and your business.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Most business coaches can't.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Go there because they don't have the mental health experience,
the combined experience with my group and I, we have
over one hundred and fifty years experiencing this type of thing.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Then we systemize only three areas sales process, I see
sales teams. Some people are making thirty thousand, people are
making five so on the same products and service.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
To me though, to have a.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Sales system, time management, you don't want to be a biblehead,
and we use educational marketing. We want to make you
become the expert now. And last but not least, we monetize.
We're in turn confusion into cash in thirty days.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Right. And my style, I have.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
To tell you, is blend with my parents are Dustin
and Wordinoda. I call wisdom and knowledge a blend of
Tony Robbins. I'm direct, I'm trying, I'm transformational, and I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Unshakable, and of course I am freaking likable. You know.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So I hold a lot of different things. So I,
oh my god, I said, man, listen to them. Man,
if your standards prove it by a photo, maybe I
can't convince you. But if your standards is based on
my results and my clients proven my worth, well, then
I listen to me. I got you so a little bit.
(20:15):
A couple of things mentioned earlier. Well, A gentleman from
the from the UK, I think waste management his net profit,
and he doubled his company in less than eight months.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Right. Another person from the.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
States, UH think uh medical company and increased their business
fifteen hundred percent three years a right, And of course
seminars all used to do. I do more like a
metaphors type of similars. I did the board break, and
you know, and I literally changed the his whole company.
Right in different styles and so if it either I
(20:52):
could be the coaching part of it, or they do
a similar part of it, or I created a similar
like I used to do with parents and teens.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
But the creativity is there.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
So when I told him, I said, man, I'm not
you know, I'm not your Tony Robins, R.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Jose looks and in the Jay Abraham or doctor Will Horden.
I love those guys, my mentors, and I still look
at them.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I still go to this summers and workshops so I
can get one knucket or one thing, one thing to.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Complete change my life. I will. So here goes guys,
if you are.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Ready for uh a, a breakthrough or are you gonna
get over your limiting his beliefs or unlocking hitting a
million inside your company? Cause all of 'em, all you
guys have 'em right. That's thus you've been in business
for two years. Let's schedule a six hour Business Growth
MRI Deep.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Session Assessment today.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Discover how the bss M one mo loo can transform
your company, your mindset, your bottom line. If you found
this podcast excited or the three e's entertaining education and
excited five stars passing on to five friends, So here goes.
Here's something else. We do have a parenting one as well.
(22:04):
It's called the Doctor's Corner with doctor John Odor. We
talk about parenting issues, we talk about teen issues. SAM
type of format fifteen twenty five minutes of talking when
we have a guest on a little bit of it
is longer. Number one outcome is to show you the
of the of the to show you the knowledge I
(22:29):
have working with adolescents teams as well as business and
sometimes they're running together. So anyway, I thank you guys
so much. On the links below, I do have links
for my pr so you can show the articles it was,
the podcast and the teen is podcasts should have some
downloaded boats as well, and all the books, all that
(22:51):
I wrote and everything else.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Since you have got until next time, take care and
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