September 16, 2025 • 54 mins
In this episode, Jim Chapman examines the assassination of Charlie Kirk, a conservative activist, and the resulting wave of theories surrounding the crime and its context. Jim details the events of the shooting, the arrest of the suspect Tyler Robinson, and the complications arising from official statements made during press conferences. Jim conducts an analysis of surveillance footage, the attacker's movements, and the implications of rising political tensions and violence in America. Jim covers potential tactical miscommunications and discrepancies in witness accounts and where this tragic event may lead us as a country.
Timestamps
00:13 Tragic Events Unfold at a college in Utah
02:06 The Capture of Tyler Robinson
14:22 Unveiling the Shooter's Background
17:23 Theories Begin to Emerge
18:03 Analyzing Tactical Signals
35:26 Eyewitness Accounts and Confusion
41:39 Political Reactions and Controversies
42:26 Decoding Bullet Casings
45:05 Forensic Analysis of the Shooting
53:39 Movements
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Timestamps
00:13 Tragic Events Unfold at a college in Utah
02:06 The Capture of Tyler Robinson
14:22 Unveiling the Shooter's Background
17:23 Theories Begin to Emerge
18:03 Analyzing Tactical Signals
35:26 Eyewitness Accounts and Confusion
41:39 Political Reactions and Controversies
42:26 Decoding Bullet Casings
45:05 Forensic Analysis of the Shooting
53:39 Movements
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We need some credit. Do you know how many mass
shooters there have been in America over the last ten years,
counting or not counting gang violence?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Great thirty one, thirty one years old conservative activist Charlie
Kirk was shot and killed during an event at a
college in Utah.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Charlie has died that he's dead at the age of
thirty one, which he would have to be if that
video is real. However, one and welcome back to Exposed
Scandalous Files of the Elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman,
and today we are going to take a deep dive
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because a lot of things bother me in both the
assassination of Charlie Kirk in the subsequent arrest of the
person that is allegedly responsible. So today I'm going to
explore some theories with you that surfaced that raised some eyebrows,
not only mine, but many other people out there as well.
(01:07):
And we're going to also look into this alleged shooter
in what is known about him. So, first off, I
don't like to give these people that murder for the
sake of an ideology a platform. So you get his
name one time, and then I will only refer to
this guy by his initials. We'll get into him first
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and then the theory. So on September twelfth, authorities arrested
twenty two year old Washington, Utah resident Tyler Robinson after
a two day man hunt. Now how did they catch him, Well,
the same way the vast majority of crimes are solved,
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quite frankly, through tips. Now there was a lot to
sift through. Over eleven thousand tips have been called in
by the time they caught Tea Off, which is the
most tips ever since the Boston Marathon bombing. But it
was one in particular that led to TR's capture. So
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before we go any further, I want to address something
that really kind of stuck in my crawl. Man the
governor of Utah. He gets up and he's going to
have a press conference to announce the arrest of tr
and the first words that come out of his mouth
are good morning, ladies and gentlemen, we got him. And
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I don't know it was the way he said it,
and then he kind of pauses after it, as if
he's waiting for some sort of applause, and then he
goes into how the capture went down, et cetera. But
I want you to listen to this ten second club.
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We got him on the
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evening of September eleventh. I mean, is it just me
or does this guy seem almost like he was about
to start bragging? Now? While it's great the alleged shooter
is caught, it took two days and a tip from
his dad and his dad's friend and pastor to do it,
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I just don't feel like this is the time for
backslapping or to stand up in front of a microphone
and say, good morning, we got him. But what are
your thoughts on that? Is it just me? Am I
being a little harsh, But back to it. The governor
continues on and he says that Robinson's father recognized his
son in the pictures that the FBI released, and he
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goes and he talks to his son and he basically says,
did you do this? And his son apparently admitted to it,
and the father said, well, you need to turn yourself in,
and the son said, screw that, I'll kill myself first.
So the father, not really knowing what to do, contacts
the past friend of his that is the pastor for
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his family, and this pastor in addition to being a
youth pastor, was also a United States marshal. And he
basically tells him, and I'm paraphrasing here, my son killed
Charlie Kirk and I don't know what to do. And
the marshall advises the father to not let the son
out of his sight. And then, of course this marshall
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contacts some people and they go pick up tr. Now.
The governor also mentioned in an interview with TR's roommate
that the roommate showed police a text from tr telling
his friends something to the effect of quote, you need
to retrieve the rifle from the drop point, and that
he would leave the rifle in a bush. Now, the
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text also mentioned engraved bullets and saying the scope and
the rifle were unique. So to be super accurate here.
The shooter was caught thirty three hours after the event,
and the FBI responded to the shooting of Charlie Kirk
within sixteen minutes, according to FBI Director Cash Battel. So,
(05:08):
because accuracy matters here on exposed, I have the actual
affidavit of arrest in front of me, which details this
guy's movement. So I'm going to cover that official document
for you quickly. It reads. On September tenth of twenty
twenty five, Charles James Kirk was at Utah Valley University
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campus in Orum, Utah for political event. Mister Kirk is
a conservative political activist who was scheduled to speak at
an event in the courtyard on the UVU campus. The
courtyard area is west of the low Ce Center building.
According to video recordings, Charlie is wearing a white T
shirt and dark pants, sitting under a white canopy in
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the courtyard of the campus facing to the east. The
event was attended by hundreds of individuals and actually that
should read thousands because they're three thousand people there. Charlie
was surrounded by people, with multiple individuals to his left,
right and rear and in front of the canopy. Behind
the canopy was a walkway used for access to various
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parts of the university. Charles was holding a microphone and
speaking to the crowd. While speaking into the microphone, a
loud gunshot was heard at approximately twelve twenty three hours
and Charlie appeared to have been hit in the neck.
Blood was seen coming out of the left side of
his neck as he fell over to his left. He
was transported to the Regional hospital in Orum and pronounced
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deceased at the hospital. Investigators reviewed the Utah Valley University
surveillance cameras, and while reviewing the surveillance, investigators observed an
individual on the rooftop of the LACEI Center on the
UVU campus at the time of the shooting. Hereafter, the
unidentified individual will be referred to as suspect, and of
course he's identified now. Based on the surveillance camera footage,
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the suspect appears to be a white male with dark
colored hair, wearing a dark colored hat, sunglasses, a long
sleeve black shirt and a picture of an American flag
and eagle printed on that shirt, dark colored jeans, and
white gray shoes with white colored shoelaces. The shoes appear
to be consistent with Converse style shoes. The suspect is
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also carrying a dark colored backpack on his back. He
walks with a distinctive gait, which is alarmed. Prior to
the shooting, the suspect appears to walk with a stiff
right leg and at a relatively slow pace. The suspect's
ability to bend his right leg appeared to be restricted
investigators were able to track the suspect's movements on the
UVU campus starting in approximately eleven fifty hours. On nine
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ten of twenty five, at approximately eleven to fifty hours,
surveillance cameras first captured of the suspect walking across a
grassy area north of Campus Drive at approximately eight hundred west.
Suspect walked south through the parking lot and approached a
pedestrian tunnel that runs underneath Campus Drive. Or entering the tunnel,
the suspect paused at the top of the stairs and
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pulled out what appeared to be a cell phone from
his right pocket using his right hand. At approximately eleven
fifty three hours, suspect eventually put what appeared to be
a cell phone back in his right pants pocket using
his right hand. Surveillance captured the suspect making his way
toward the Lacy Center at approximately twelve o two. The
suspect was recorded walking on the north side of the
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Lacey Center building, walking with the same gate as observed earlier.
Suspect entered the Lacey Center building through a set of
doors on the southeast corner of the Lacey Center building
at approximately twelve fifteen. The suspect was observed walking up
to the stairs leading to the common area adjacent to
the Lacey Center building. Suspect walked to a short concrete
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wall that separates the common area from the rooftop of
the Lacey Center building. At approximately twelve seventeen, the suspect
climbed over a short wall and appeared to crouch down
on the north side of the wall on the rooftop.
At approximate twelve twenty two, the suspect stood up and
started running across the rooftop of the Lacy Center building.
The notable lamp from previous surveillance was absent. Suspect ran
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to the west side of the rooftop and appeared to
scoot along the rooftop area as he got closer to
the edge of the rooftop. At approximately twelve twenty two,
the suspect laid down in a position consistent with a
prone shooting position near the edge of the rooftop and
appeared to be facing west in a direction of the
courtyard area. The rooftop of the Lacy Center building overlooks
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the courtyard area where the event featuring Charlie Kirk was
taking place. The Lacey Center building is east of the
courtyard area. At approximately twelve twenty three, Charlie Kirk was shot.
At approximately twelve twenty three, surveillance showed the suspects stand
up suddenly from the edge of the rooftop and sprent
north on the rooftop of the Lacy Center building. Suspect
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ran to the northeast corner of the Lacy Center building
and approached the edge of the rooftop. Susp placed a
dark colored item on the rooftop and proceeded to lower
himself off the rooftop. Suspect dropped off the rooftop onto
the grass below. Suspect ran north near the parking lot
to the east of the Lazy Center, and at approximately
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twelve to twenty four, suspect ran north across Campus Drive Road.
Now let's pause right here for a second, and approximately
twelve to twenty three Charlie Kirk was shot, according to
the actual document here the affidavit of arrest, and approximately
twelve twenty four, sixty seconds later, the suspect had already
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gotten off that roof and was running across Campus Drive
Road in one minute sixty seconds. That seems strange to me.
Suspect appeared to be carrying an item whose identity is
not clear from the surveillance. The area to the north
of Campus Drive Road where the suspect crossed over consists
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of a grassy area with trees. On the edge of
the U campus, investigators discovered a bolt action rifle in
a dark colored towel. The rifle was determined to be
a Mouser Model ninety eight thirty odd six bolt action rifle.
The rifle had a scope mounted on top of it.
Investigators noted inscriptions had been engraved on the casings found
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with the rifle. I'm not going to tell you what
those are yet. I'll get because I'm going to get
into those in what they mean. Investigators also discovered a
shoe impression on the northeast corner rooftop edge of the
LACI Center building, and that shoe impression was located in
the vicinity where the suspect climbed down from the rooftop.
The shoe impression is consistent with the shoe sole characteristics
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of a converse Chuck Taylor's shoe. On the evening of
September eleventh, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out
to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's
Office with the information that Robinson had confessed to them
or implied that he had committed the incident. The information
was relaid to the Utah County Sheriff's all and Seeing
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investigators at UVU. The information was then conveyed to the FBI.
Investigators reviewed additional video footage from surveillance and identified Robinson
arriving on the campus and a gray Dodge Challenger at
approximately eight twenty nine am on September tenth, in which
he is observed on video in a Plaine Marine T
shirt like colored shorts, a black hat with a white logo,
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in light colored shoes. When encountered in person by investigators
in Washington County on September twelfth, early morning hours, he
was observed in consistent clothing with surveillance images. Investigators interviewed
a family member of Robinson, who stated that Robinson had
become more political in recent years. The family member referenced
a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior
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to September tenth, and in a conversation with that family member,
Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They talked
about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints he had.
The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate
in sprinting hate. The family member also confirmed Robinson had
a Gray Dodge Challenger. Investigators identified an individual as the
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roommate of Robinson. Interview of the roommate, who stated his
roommate referring to Robinson made a joke on discord, investigators
asked if he would show the messages to them on discord.
He opened it and showed several messages to investigators and
allowed investigators to take photos of the screen as each
message was shown by Robinson's roommate. These photos consisted of
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various messages, including content and messages between the phone contact
named Tyler and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of those
messages including messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating he
needed to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving
a rifle in a bush, as well as messages related
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to visually watching the area where the rifle was left,
and a message referring to having left the rifle in
a towel. The message also referred to engraving bullets and
a mention of a scope and the rifle being unique.
Messages from the contact. Tyler also mentioned that he had
changed outfits based on this evidence detailed. I believe there's
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probable cause to arrest this guy. So that's the actual affidavit.
Now we're about to get in to some stuff. Now,
there are so many questions that we're going to cover today,
but before we do, let's talk about what we know
about who this kid is. Some of this I just
covered in the affidavit. He was twenty two years old.
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He was born and raised in Utah. This kid was
always a smart kid. His intellect was above and beyond
what maybe the average kids would be. He grew up
in a Republican household. Both of his parents were registered Republican.
His dad as a carpenter. He works on countertops. His
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mother is a social worker. He was raised, like most
people in Utah, as a Mormon, and when he was younger,
he was described as very active in the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, but as he got
older he would become less involved. Now he graduates high
school and he scores a nearly perfect thirty four on
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the Act, good enough that he gets an academic scholarship
to Utah State University a full ride for four years,
but he transfers out after one semester, and there's not
much information as to why he does continue to go
to college and actually attends Dixie Community College in Utah.
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It's more of a technical college. And he was on
the voting rolls as an independent in Utah, so he
did not affiliate with the Republican Party as his parents did.
He had no criminal record at the time of his arrest,
and he was working as a custodian at an elementary school.
So a family member that was interviewed by investigators and
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they don't specify who it was. They told investigators that
tr in the past couple of years became extremely political,
as I referenced in that affidavit. They said he was
full of hate and he spewed hate. And what happened
in the last couple of years, Well, he started college.
And I'm not trying to like start shit here, but
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I'm gonna tell you the facts. College indoctrinates a lot
of kids, and it almost seemed as though this kid
got indoctrinated. Now that is totally my opinion, that is
totally conjecture. At this point, I have no direct knowledge
of that, but a lot of kids getting doctrinated. And
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I'm speaking from experience because I got three kids, well,
one just graduated from college, the other two are going
into their junior years, and I know what goes on.
I know what the vast majority of these professors are
telling these kids first fucking hand. But we'll move on.
So that's what we know so far as it relates
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to tr as I'm recording this, Jim, did you see
what happened in Texas today? Wait before you tell me that,
let me tell you what happened in New York. It
cannot be as crazy as the case I told you
about yesterday in Louisiana. You know what, we should do
a podcast about it, and with that we did. Crime
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the description of this podcast. Let's move on into the theories,
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and let me preface everything I'm about to go over with.
I personally am as far from a conspiracy theorist as
you can get. As a matter of fact, I look
at things most times the total opposite of the way
someone that was looking for conspiracy would look at it.
I look at things as I'm going to take the
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investigation as its word, but I'm going to look at that,
and when things don't make sense, that's when I call
them out, not the other way around, where you've got
to prove to me your investigation is accurate. I kind
of look at that in the opposite. But this one's
got some problems now. I like to get only facts.
Conspiracy theories, for the most part, they lead down an
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endless tunnel of rabbit holes. But one thing I believe
is in asking questions. We should ask questions when things
don't make sense. There's a totally legitimate reason for what
we're being told. But if they don't tell us, we
don't know. And if we don't ask questions, they're not
going to volunteer it, right. I believe that when things
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do not add up, the honess is on us to
ask the questions and to find out why, and to
hold our government accountable, or investigators accountable, or whoever it
is to us. With this entire deal right here, there's
a lot of questions that need to be answered, stuff
that just don't make sense to me and many others.
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So that's what we're going to cover today. Now, first up,
let's talk about the signals. You may say, what do
you mean signals? Well, when Charlie was speaking just prior
to the shooting, there were two what are assumed to
be bodyguards behind Charlie and there's a lot of people
in the crowd and they're filming Charlie and you can
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see behind him these two guys, and they're using what
is known in the military as tactical signals. And notice
I didn't say they appeared to be using tactical signals,
because folks, I got a lot of experience with this,
and I know what I'm talking about, and I'm telling
you these guys, beyond a shadow of a doubt, we're
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using tactical signals. These were not natural movements. So what
does that mean? What were these guys saying. Let me
break this down for you. You got two guys here,
one with a white shirt and a white hat, the
other guy in a black shirt. He had a sleeve
of tattoos, and they were positioned behind Charlie, but they
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were on the sides of Charlie, not directly behind him. Now,
about three seconds before the shot, the man in white
touches the front of his hat and that is tactical
signal number one. It it indicates sniper. The man in
white then touches the side out of his face and
that indicates male figure. And this occurs in about a
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second and a half, maybe even less. Then immediately the
guy in the black shoots his arm straight out with
his palm down. That indicates one of two things. It
could indicate commence firing or could indicate someone is about
to commence firing. And the next signal is important because
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that kind of tells me what the signal I just
discussed with you means. The next signal, he places his
left arm crossing his torso, which indicates imminent danger, serious
and immediate threat. Now at that very moment, the shot
rings out. These are all facts and there's several ways
to look at this. First, did the bodyguards spot the
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sniper And it appears to me that they were not
communicating with the sniper, And that's kind of what's being
circulated out there in social media. They weren't talking to
a shooter. They were talking to each other. When you
have bodyguards, and this is the case with most public figures,
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they'll have bodyguards that served in the military, you know, Navy, seals,
you name it, and these guys communicate via sign language. Now,
these are all the facts, and there's several ways to
look at this. First, did the bodyguard spot the sniper
and it appears that they were communicating with each other.
The guy in black did look at the guy in white?
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Did they see this sniper and just did not react
quickly enough. Now, the protocol in this situation is to
cover and smother. And it's interesting to note that the
guy in black looks exactly like the guy who carried
Trump off the stage during the Pennsylvania shootings. But everything
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coming out right now is saying that's a completely different guy.
I don't even want to go down that rabbit hole
because it really is relevant to what we're talking about here.
But here's the deal on the signals theory. This is
my opinion only. I don't think anything nefarious was going
on with these guys. I believe these two bodyguards were
talking to each other and to break down into Layman's terms. Okay,
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if they were having this conversation out loud rather than
using tactical signals, here's what it would have sounded like.
In my view. The guy in white is saying, hey,
I see a male sniper. The guy in black is
saying he's about to shoot right now, and then VOTs.
The shot rings out right after he says he's about
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to shoot right now. So they didn't have time to react.
So what questions should we be asking? Regardless of I
believe that these were good guys, if you will, well,
we need to know who they are, what is their background,
and why, if in fact they did spot t R,
why did they not immediately and smother, Why did they
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take the three seconds to talk to each other? There
may be a completely legit reason for that, but I
want to know now. One thing I can tell you
with a very high degree of certainty is that the
FBI knows who these guys are, and likely they've been interviewed.
I would almost go out and lem and say I'm
positive about that. If the FBI wants to put this
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theory to bed, though, they need to be transparent and
maybe address it. One of these guys is holding out
a cell phone. The guy I'm white, He's holding out
a cell phone the whole time. And some people have
a theory that this was a wind speed detector to
ada sniper. But I don't think so. I think this
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is a scanner. It's a specific instrument to detect firearms,
and it probably runs through an app. And let me
say again, this is my opinion. I have no direct knowledge.
But what I can tell you is I have some
friends who own a company and they offer video surveillance
and they sell this video surveillance to hospitals, to schools,
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to prisons, and they can detect through AI certain shapes
of things. So I'm going to give you an example.
If this security system was put in a school and
they programmed it to pick up every time that a
kid made a motion towards his mouth with something like
a cigarette, It can pick that up and it will
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alert the school office that someone is smoking on floor
number two in that particular school. You can also load
firearms into it, thousands of firearms, and it can detect
the shape of those firearms, and it will do it
to a like ninety nine point nine to nine percent
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degree of certainty. And it will alert if it's a prison. Hey,
somebody in this pod has a firearm, those sorts of things. Look,
this guy, I'm white. This bodyguard, he's not filming the
crowd because he's taking footage for the TikTok videos that
Charlie Kirk is going to put out. That's not why
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he was holding a cell phone the entire time. It's
my belief he was scanning rooftops, and it's my belief
that as he was scanning those rooftops, just before he
touches the bill of that hat, he got a hit
because that kid stuck his head up and he saw
that gun and he was communicating to the other bodyguard
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and telling him there's a male sniper on the freaking
roof The other bodyguard looked up and confirmed that and
basically said, yeah, he's there and he's about to shoot,
and they just did not have time beyond that to
do anything. That's my belief. Now, I will be posting
some pretty interesting stuff related to this on the Patreon,
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so check that out out if you're not a member.
Now let's get into the day of the shooting, and
there are many things that don't add up for me
here let's talk about the videos that we know to exist.
We see a video just prior to the shooting of
tr and he's walking through a neighborhood and he has
a distinct lamp. Now, no rifle is present in his hands,
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so the assumption here is that the rifle was shoved
down his pants leg. And man, this is a tough
one for me. Thirty E to six is a full
length firearm, meaning it measures forty inches or so in length,
which is over three feet. And before we go any further,
I spoke to an expert about this and he is
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of the same believe i am that this shit just
don't fly. Doesn't seem possible. And this is really where
it gets hazy for me. Now, the report says he
was walking through that neighborhood prior to the shooting. However,
I'm starting to question that if it was after the
shooting when he was caught limping through that neighborhood, which
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would make much more sense to me since we have
video of this guy jumping off a roof that was,
you know, several stories high, where he certainly could have
injured his ankle, injured his leg, and that would explain
the limping but the official report says he arrived on
campus in a great challenger. So why is he running
through a neighborhood. I don't know. I don't get it.
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None of that makes sense. But let's talk about this
rifle thing. This weapon's ever three feet long. Now, I
took a tape measure, and I'm almost six feet I'm
just shy of six feet tall. I stretched that tape
measure out at the same length of a thirty odd
six and guess what that would go about four inches
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above my waist. And what the investigation is wanting us
to believe is that he walked through a campus with
a thirty odd six shoved down his pants. Now, another
thing I noticed in that surveillance footage. If these pants
ain't baggy, I mean, they appear to fit him. If
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you're gonna shove a thirty odd six down your pants,
wouldn't you buy a wayte size that was three or
four sizes larger than which he'd normally wear. How are
you gonna fit it in there? But it's not like
the legs of his pants are super baggy. Something is
not right with that. It just doesn't wash with me.
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But that's the story that we're being told now, not
only does he shove the thing down his pants get
through campus, but he walks up flights of stairs with
a thirty odd six shove down his pants. How do
you even get up the stairs without basically grabbing the
sides of the stairs and limping your way up them
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because you cannot bend your leg. He could didn't even
have a slight bend in his leg. If he's got
a rifle shoved down it, I don't buy that. I
got no proof, you know, I got no direct knowledge,
but that seems like some major bullshit right there. Now,
they've got all this video that they've released, in several
pictures they've released, raise your hand if you've seen a
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picture of him with a gun. I've seen not one
picture of this kid with a gun. I see him
lumping in their saying he's got a gun in his pants,
But I don't see a picture of that kid with
a gun. It don't exist, or if it exists, they're
not showing it to the same thing with video. No
video of him with a gun in his hands. As
a matter of fact, and we're going to lead to
another issue with this investigation. The way it went down
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that we're being told, and that is that he jumped
off that roof, and we have the video of him
jumping off of a roof. Do you see a gun
in that video? I don't. Now, granted, it's very grainy.
It looks like something Bigfoot would put out, you know,
Bigfoot sighting grainy like that twenty twenty five. You can't
get a clear picture or nothing. And he's definitely carrying
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something in his hand. A lot of people say that's
the backpack. I say it's a towel. But they ain't
a gun in that picture that I've been able to see.
So if it exists, FBI, whoever, law enforcement in that community,
release it so that we can put that to bed.
But regardless of that, with what we have to go
off of, the kid gets down off of the building,
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he runs through some woods. We're being told that he
hides this gun in a towel, and then he disappears
into oblivion. Now immediately following Charlie Kirk's shooting, a middle
aged man who had apparently had some issues. I don't
have any doubt about that. He gets taken down and
a lot of people say he was a diversion who knows.
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I don't know. I know one thing, he was crazy
because he was screaming shoot me as they were carrying
him out of the place. But he was released and
we are being told he had absolutely nothing to do
with this then. And look, I've been a supporter of
Cash Pattel since he was brought on as FBI director
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of Wade his book, I've had a lot of respect
for Cash, but honestly, he totally screws the pooch when
he comes out with a post on X and he proclaimed,
and I quote, the subject for this horrific shooting today
that took the life of Charlie Kirk is in custody. Now,
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that was four hours after the shooting. And guess what,
that dude gets released. And that is a major fuck
up right there. You can't do that as FBI director.
I understand maybe he got some bad intel or whatever
it was, but you cannot do that. Why is that
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an issue? Because guess what, everybody stops looking at that point, everybody,
the whole public stops looking. Another thing. I had to
an issue with They had pictures, they had video, They
came out and said they had this early on in
the investigation, but released absolutely none of it. Why because
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every minute that you take that you don't release pictures
of video and the guy is on the loose, you
take a chance of somebody else getting hurt or killed.
You also take a chance of this guy being able
to get away. And you know what, they released the
pictures and that's how they caught him, because this dad
recognized him. You should have released those way early in
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day one, you had the pictures. You did not. I
don't understand why. I don't get that. Now. There's also
a theory that tr and Charlie had a run in
once before. There's a video that's going around. It's viral,
and it's saying that this guy in custody, it was
determined that him and Charlie had a debate on a campus.
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Look the guy that was having the debate, I give
it to you. He looks very similar to the guy
that they have in custody, but not similar enough that
I think it's the same person. I'm just not convinced.
But I'll go ahead and I'll play you the audio
of that back and forth with Charlie kirk in this guy,
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and I'll put the video on Patreon for you to watch.
If you're a Patreon member. Here's that.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Hey, this guy just wies hell no, no, he's a liar,
so okay, he can debate.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
He just okay. Well, I mean, you could say whatever
you want if you want to make a fool of yourself,
But we do have like ten year olds here in
eleven year old son, have some decency.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
You don't care your typical leftist because you only care
about yourself. Who said not about the other people who
said I was a leftis now. Another theory refers to
two shooters. And the reason that people are doing that
is the nine to one one dispatch that came out
the actual dispatch club, and it talks about people relaying
what the shooter looks like, how he's dressed, et cetera.
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And it stated from the dispatcher to police that witnesses
on the singer saying this guy is dressed in all
black with a tactical helmet on. Folks, there is no
way in the world that a baseball cap can be
mistaken for a tactical helmet. So I want you to
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listen to this dispatch audio, and that's the advice. Tobu
and Orum has had an active shooter at a Charlie
Kirk event. We're getting several calls for trying to get
more information.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
She's going to be wearing all black, black, long gun.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Like tactical helmet, a black mask, possibly wearing a tactical
vest and jeans.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Just need to see if building just use of celeby.
He's wearing Jean's flea shirt, black man blow racial and.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
What you heard there was black shirt, black vest, black
tactical helmet, dark jeans. And that's not the guy that
was arrested. That's not the guy that we saw in
those picks with a baseball cap on. Now that's just
something to think about. I will tell you that eyewitness
accounts are about the most inaccurate accounts that you can
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ever get. Luck, if a guy goes in and robs
a bank and there's six people in that bank, three
of them are going to say he had on something
he did not have on. I mean, it happens all
the time, but man, it is really hard to mistake
a black tactical helmet with a baseball cap. Really hard
to screw those two things up. So even on my
own page exposed Annalysts files of the Elites Facebook page,
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some great questions and some strange statements. Then I'm gonna
address and first I'm going to address Julie Ann Lyncia Crawford.
And she said on my Facebook page that it was
a setup that Charlie was talking too much about Epstein
and Orange Cheetah, and of course she's referring to President Trump.
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So let's address this because this is a classic diversion tactic.
Now it's safe to say that I think Miss Crawford
is not a Trump fan and either she is way
left or left, or she just doesn't have any party
at all and is just a shit starter. Either way,
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two problems with that theory. First, conflicting Epstein with this
is just freaking stupid. And second, Trump absolutely love Charlie,
so I would invite Miss Crawford to do her fucking research.
The whole Trump family was very tight with Charlie. As
a matter of fact, Donald Trump Junior looked at him
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as a little brother. That's how much I loved Charlie Kirk.
That's someone who is spewing the same bullshit that gets
us in the situations that we're in. Plain and simple, Sorry,
you're wrong, do your research just had nothing to do
with Donald Trump. Keep reaching but what those people try
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to do is they try to take the heat away
from where it belongs. And unfortunately a lot of these
people are out of touch with what's going on. So
let's discuss real quick the left and what they've had
to say. Now, many are on the same side as
the right. They are denouncing political violence in any way,
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shape or form, and some seem to really be sincere
with uh, you know, I'm sorry this happened. In our
thoughts and prayers are with Charlie's family, those sort of things.
Barack Obama came out and he said some very you
know what, you would expect nice things about Charlie Kirk
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in the situation, and how it you know, we don't
want this shit here in the United States. Same thing
with Joe Biden. But you also have some people that
lack any sort of empathy at all. And that brings
me to a conversation between ilhan Omore, who is a
congresswoman for the state of Minnesota, and Neisa said four
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and not from and that's because she is not from
the state of Minnesota. She is from Somalia. But she
is talking about Kirk's assassination with a guy by the
name of Medai Hassan, and he's a broadcaster from Great
Britain who now lives here in the United States. And
this is likely going to piss you off a little bit.
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I want you to listen to this.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
What I do know for sure is that you know,
Charlie was someone who once said, you know, gun seed
lives after a school shooting. Charlie was someone who was
willing to debate and downplay the death of George Floyd
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in the hands of Minneapolis police. Right have no regard,
downplay slavery and what black people have gone through in
this country by saying juneteen should never exist. And I
think you know that there are a lot of people
who are out there talking about him, just wanting to
have a civil debate, rewriting of complete rewriting of history. Yeah,
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there is nothing more fed up, you know, like uh
than to than to completely pretend that you know, his
words and actions have not been recorded and and and
in existence for for the last decade or so.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So here's why you just absolutely have to love America.
You have two people here Ill Hannah Moore who's from Somalia,
as I said, and she immigrated to the US because
we are who we are. She has a privilege of
serving in Congress. And you have a reporter from Great
Britain who lives here now and we give him, well
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both of them citizenship, and both of these folks absolutely
take every opportunity they can to not only shit on
America but also say stupid shit like what I just played,
basically saying Charlie Kirk's dead because he supported the Second Amendment,
and you know, we shouldn't feel sorry for him because
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it's kind of his fault. Make no mistake about it.
Ilhn Omar hates everything freedom stands for. I said what
I said. So let's get into another theory, which is
the Massaud theory. And some are saying and for those
that don't know, the Massaud is like Israel's version of
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the CIA, that Charlie Kirk was having kind of some
issues with the Masad. I don't buy it because Trump
was c to Charlie. Trump's family was close to Charlie,
as I just said, and he never would have allowed it.
And I understand Israel Scott money and all these sorts
of things, but Israel is not going to do shit
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like that without the approval of the President. I promise
you because of it was found out that they did,
that would be hell to pay. That's all I can say,
So I don't put a whole lot of stock into
that theory. Now, let's talk about the meaning of the
etchings that were found on those bullet casings. So there
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were four etchings. One was on a spent casing and
three were on non fired casings. Now, on the fired casing,
the etching read notices bulges owo in all caps. What
is this question mark? Now? Owo is a slang expression.
It's really an emulogy that is used in text communications
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to convey a surprise or excitement. And the phrase notices
bulges is a piece of Internet slang often paired with
od wo. And it was a meme way back from
twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, and it refers to the
visible outline of male genitalia through clothing. The second casing
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had hey fascist catch and then it had an arrow up,
an arrow to the right, an arrow down, and then
two other arrows down. And what does that mean? It's
a sequence of control inputs in a video game known
as Held Divers two, which is a game that relates
to fascist and authoritarianism. And they fight enemies for democracy.
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That's what the game's all about, so it makes sense, right.
The next bullet casing had o Bellachow and it's actually
a anti fascist song. And then the final casing set
if you read this you are gay lmao. And of
course what that means stands for itself, so that covers
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the bullet casings and what they mean. Now, another thing
I want to talk about is the shot that was
actually fired. Yes, that was an easy shot with a
thirty odd six from two hundred yards out. It's not
a hard shot necessarily. What surprised me was the fact
that this twenty two year old kid can make that
shot with the pressure involved, coupled with the inexperience of
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the shooter. I mean, he has no criminal records, so
we're not going to assume that the guy has killed
somebody before, and it seems like the circumstances would make
that a harder shot. Not to mention, you're shitting in
a human being, You're not shitting in a deer. But
as someone pointed out to me on Facebook, I'm looking
at this situation as a person who does not have
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hate in his heart. When you do have hate, in
your heart, the pressure alleviates a little bit because you
want to kill that person. So I'm glad I can't
relate to that. It just seemed like a harder shot
apparently than it was to me. So lastly, today, let's
get into the forensics of all this, because that's important
and it's very interesting, and we're going to talk about
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some things here. Now, keep in mind, the subject in
this situation is firing from an elevated position down and
it's a single shot that enters to the left of
what's referred to as the midline of the neck. Now,
there's a ton of blood that comes out from this
hole in Charlie's neck immediately. And one of the things
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kind of interesting is that Charlie actually drew up his
right arm. And if you'll remember in the Subruder film
for JFK, when JFK got shot, his arms immediately go
up and he raises his hands right and this is
a general response. It's a neuro muscular response. A lot
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of people had questions as to why his arms went
up like that, and that's why we discussed the gun
a little bit. But it was a Mauser thirty odd six,
So that's a thirty caliber round. The six comes in
because the round was actually developed to nineteen o six
and it's a weapon of war. It was used in
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World War One, world War two in Korea. Nowadays it's
used for deer hunting primarily. The Mauser is a German
manufactured weapon originally. So one of the things that kind
of struck me about this is how because a Mauser
is a very robust weapon has a wooden stock, It's
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not like a modern weapon where you can take it
down very easily and just break it down into these
small parts like you can an AR fifteen. You can't
do that. And I covered enough of that earlier. But
that's the part of this whole fucking thing that I
can't wrap my mind around. I don't believe he stuck
that thing down his pants. I just don't buy it.
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Another eyepiece to this, he didn't cycle the weapon, okay,
because the spent round was still in the rifle. This
is a bolt action rifle. You have to physically cycle
it every time you shoot around. So you shoot around,
you pull that bolt back, it ejects the round you
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just shot, and it puts another live round in there,
and you cycle it through that chamber. That didn't happen
in this case. He actually left the weapon with that
spent round still in place. Now they didn't mention speaking
of forensics, during this investigation, they had several prints. One
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of those was a palm print that was on the
actual gun itself. They had some prints from where he
jumped off the roof apparently, and had some shoeprints there
as well. But look, prints are great, but if you
don't have a record, you can load in the NCIIC
and they're not going to have any hits. They're not
going to tell you who that person was. But it
was great that they did get some prints and maybe
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it'll prove that that KiB was actually there. But you know,
another question that I did get asked was how did
the Massau We talked a little bit about them earlier,
but how did the Massile know that Charlie Kirk, the
Israeli CIA, if you will, that Charlie Kirk was killed
twenty minutes before it was announced. And that is kind
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of the easiest thing for me to answer here. Look,
it didn't take a rocket scientist when you saw that
video to know there was no way Charlie Kirk could
survive that. There's no miracle in the world where Charlie
Kirk could survive that if you had the best, the
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finest team of vascular surgeons ever known to man, standing
right there when he got shot, ready to go, it
was still unsurvivable that injury. And they knew that, I mean,
they weren't going out on a limb by any means
by declaring him dead. And how do we know that, Well,
it comes down to the trajectory of the round. When
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that round hit Charlie Kirk, it transsected the vessels in
his neck. Now think of it this way. You know
when you feel your pulse, okay, adjacent to your larnings,
you can actually feel the pulse throbbing. Well, this shot
was just to the left of the larnings. And what
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else is along that path the cervical spine. So if
you think about it, C one, C two, C three,
C four, anything in that range, that shot is going
to be unsurvivable. Why because in that area that's actually
what controls your diaphragm. So taking in air, pushing out air,
that's all controlled by C one, C two, C three,
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and C four your spine. You're not gonna have that
capability if you just got shot in that area. So
that shot was unsurvivable in any circumstance. And some people
have also asked me, is there any way to know
where he was actually aiming? And let me tell you
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what the FBI is going to do, because they're gonna
be all over this thing. There's gonna be a trial
in this It's gonna be a death penalty trial, according
to all accounts. So this kid ain't gonna plead to anything.
He's not gonna plead guilty to death. So they're going
to go back in and the FBI is going to
do a shooting recreation in the same environment, and they're
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going to try to match everything exactly to the way
it was that day. And one of the things that
you have to consider is bullet drop when you're trying
to determine what was this guy actually aiming, where the
bullet hit, and there's something called bullet and from two
hundred yards, you're not talking about much bullet drop, if
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any at all. But what this means is when around
is fired, just like every person on Earth, we're all
impacted by gravity, right, Well, projectiles are no different. So
gravity is going to start to pull that round actually
down the second it leaves that gun. So let's just
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say an individual may have been aiming for center mass
of someone's head. It could drop, you know, potentially that much.
You also have other factors to consider, like crosswinds, you
have tailwinds. All these things affect the trajectory of that bullet.
So I don't think he was necessarily aiming for you know,
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nobody really aims for the neck. I think he was
aiming for center mass to the head and he had
just a little bit a slight drop from two hundred yards,
but maybe some wins carry it where it ended up
hitting Charlie Kirk. And lastly, on that as it relates
to forensic evidence, one of the things that stuck out
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to me and I said a little bit about this earlier,
they should have released pictures earlier. That's my interpretation of it.
That's my opinion of it. I think those pictures should
have went out immediately. And why is that? Because you've
got these images out there and it becomes what the
military would referred to as a force multiplier. You put
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those images out, hundreds of thousands of millions of people,
all of their eyes are on that picture, because this
is such a big story. Anywhere he's ever gone, anyone
he ever knows, family, friends, enemies, doesn't matter. They're going
to be looking at that picture, and if they recognize
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tr in this case, they're going to call the police
and say I know that guy. And that's just what happened.
But it took a little while, and we're very fortunate
this kid didn't go on another shooting spree somewhere. I
just feel like they should have released that when they
had it four hours after the shooting. The more eyes
on that thing, the better. So there you have it.
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That is all the information up to right now when
I'm recording this. Anyway, of course, this is an active investigation.
Some of the things I said on here may be
proved to be different as we go along in the investigation,
but that's where I'm at right now. Thank you so
much for listening. Check out the Patreon. I'm going to
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joining all the celebrities on Patreon. Many prayers going out
to the family of Charlie Kirk just couldn't imagine horrible,
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tragic situation and we just got to quit this as
a country. In my opinion, this is too much hate.
It's just too much hate. You can disagree, We can
agree to disagree and walk away and not have to
kill each other. I hope we can get back to that.
And until next time for exposed scandalous files of the elite,
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I'm your host, Jim Chapman. Much love,
We need some credit. Do you know how many mass
shooters there have been in America over the last ten years,
counting or not counting gang violence?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Great thirty one, thirty one years old conservative activist Charlie
Kirk was shot and killed during an event at a
college in Utah.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Charlie has died that he's dead at the age of
thirty one, which he would have to be if that
video is real. However, one and welcome back to Exposed
Scandalous Files of the Elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman,
and today we are going to take a deep dive
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because a lot of things bother me in both the
assassination of Charlie Kirk in the subsequent arrest of the
person that is allegedly responsible. So today I'm going to
explore some theories with you that surfaced that raised some eyebrows,
not only mine, but many other people out there as well.
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And we're going to also look into this alleged shooter
in what is known about him. So, first off, I
don't like to give these people that murder for the
sake of an ideology a platform. So you get his
name one time, and then I will only refer to
this guy by his initials. We'll get into him first
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and then the theory. So on September twelfth, authorities arrested
twenty two year old Washington, Utah resident Tyler Robinson after
a two day man hunt. Now how did they catch him, Well,
the same way the vast majority of crimes are solved,
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quite frankly, through tips. Now there was a lot to
sift through. Over eleven thousand tips have been called in
by the time they caught Tea Off, which is the
most tips ever since the Boston Marathon bombing. But it
was one in particular that led to TR's capture. So
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before we go any further, I want to address something
that really kind of stuck in my crawl. Man the
governor of Utah. He gets up and he's going to
have a press conference to announce the arrest of tr
and the first words that come out of his mouth
are good morning, ladies and gentlemen, we got him. And
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I don't know it was the way he said it,
and then he kind of pauses after it, as if
he's waiting for some sort of applause, and then he
goes into how the capture went down, et cetera. But
I want you to listen to this ten second club.
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We got him on the
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evening of September eleventh. I mean, is it just me
or does this guy seem almost like he was about
to start bragging? Now? While it's great the alleged shooter
is caught, it took two days and a tip from
his dad and his dad's friend and pastor to do it,
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I just don't feel like this is the time for
backslapping or to stand up in front of a microphone
and say, good morning, we got him. But what are
your thoughts on that? Is it just me? Am I
being a little harsh, But back to it. The governor
continues on and he says that Robinson's father recognized his
son in the pictures that the FBI released, and he
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goes and he talks to his son and he basically says,
did you do this? And his son apparently admitted to it,
and the father said, well, you need to turn yourself in,
and the son said, screw that, I'll kill myself first.
So the father, not really knowing what to do, contacts
the past friend of his that is the pastor for
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his family, and this pastor in addition to being a
youth pastor, was also a United States marshal. And he
basically tells him, and I'm paraphrasing here, my son killed
Charlie Kirk and I don't know what to do. And
the marshall advises the father to not let the son
out of his sight. And then, of course this marshall
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contacts some people and they go pick up tr. Now.
The governor also mentioned in an interview with TR's roommate
that the roommate showed police a text from tr telling
his friends something to the effect of quote, you need
to retrieve the rifle from the drop point, and that
he would leave the rifle in a bush. Now, the
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text also mentioned engraved bullets and saying the scope and
the rifle were unique. So to be super accurate here.
The shooter was caught thirty three hours after the event,
and the FBI responded to the shooting of Charlie Kirk
within sixteen minutes, according to FBI Director Cash Battel. So,
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because accuracy matters here on exposed, I have the actual
affidavit of arrest in front of me, which details this
guy's movement. So I'm going to cover that official document
for you quickly. It reads. On September tenth of twenty
twenty five, Charles James Kirk was at Utah Valley University
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campus in Orum, Utah for political event. Mister Kirk is
a conservative political activist who was scheduled to speak at
an event in the courtyard on the UVU campus. The
courtyard area is west of the low Ce Center building.
According to video recordings, Charlie is wearing a white T
shirt and dark pants, sitting under a white canopy in
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the courtyard of the campus facing to the east. The
event was attended by hundreds of individuals and actually that
should read thousands because they're three thousand people there. Charlie
was surrounded by people, with multiple individuals to his left,
right and rear and in front of the canopy. Behind
the canopy was a walkway used for access to various
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parts of the university. Charles was holding a microphone and
speaking to the crowd. While speaking into the microphone, a
loud gunshot was heard at approximately twelve twenty three hours
and Charlie appeared to have been hit in the neck.
Blood was seen coming out of the left side of
his neck as he fell over to his left. He
was transported to the Regional hospital in Orum and pronounced
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deceased at the hospital. Investigators reviewed the Utah Valley University
surveillance cameras, and while reviewing the surveillance, investigators observed an
individual on the rooftop of the LACEI Center on the
UVU campus at the time of the shooting. Hereafter, the
unidentified individual will be referred to as suspect, and of
course he's identified now. Based on the surveillance camera footage,
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the suspect appears to be a white male with dark
colored hair, wearing a dark colored hat, sunglasses, a long
sleeve black shirt and a picture of an American flag
and eagle printed on that shirt, dark colored jeans, and
white gray shoes with white colored shoelaces. The shoes appear
to be consistent with Converse style shoes. The suspect is
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also carrying a dark colored backpack on his back. He
walks with a distinctive gait, which is alarmed. Prior to
the shooting, the suspect appears to walk with a stiff
right leg and at a relatively slow pace. The suspect's
ability to bend his right leg appeared to be restricted
investigators were able to track the suspect's movements on the
UVU campus starting in approximately eleven fifty hours. On nine
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ten of twenty five, at approximately eleven to fifty hours,
surveillance cameras first captured of the suspect walking across a
grassy area north of Campus Drive at approximately eight hundred west.
Suspect walked south through the parking lot and approached a
pedestrian tunnel that runs underneath Campus Drive. Or entering the tunnel,
the suspect paused at the top of the stairs and
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pulled out what appeared to be a cell phone from
his right pocket using his right hand. At approximately eleven
fifty three hours, suspect eventually put what appeared to be
a cell phone back in his right pants pocket using
his right hand. Surveillance captured the suspect making his way
toward the Lacy Center at approximately twelve o two. The
suspect was recorded walking on the north side of the
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Lacey Center building, walking with the same gate as observed earlier.
Suspect entered the Lacey Center building through a set of
doors on the southeast corner of the Lacey Center building
at approximately twelve fifteen. The suspect was observed walking up
to the stairs leading to the common area adjacent to
the Lacey Center building. Suspect walked to a short concrete
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wall that separates the common area from the rooftop of
the Lacey Center building. At approximately twelve seventeen, the suspect
climbed over a short wall and appeared to crouch down
on the north side of the wall on the rooftop.
At approximate twelve twenty two, the suspect stood up and
started running across the rooftop of the Lacy Center building.
The notable lamp from previous surveillance was absent. Suspect ran
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to the west side of the rooftop and appeared to
scoot along the rooftop area as he got closer to
the edge of the rooftop. At approximately twelve twenty two,
the suspect laid down in a position consistent with a
prone shooting position near the edge of the rooftop and
appeared to be facing west in a direction of the
courtyard area. The rooftop of the Lacy Center building overlooks
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the courtyard area where the event featuring Charlie Kirk was
taking place. The Lacey Center building is east of the
courtyard area. At approximately twelve twenty three, Charlie Kirk was shot.
At approximately twelve twenty three, surveillance showed the suspects stand
up suddenly from the edge of the rooftop and sprent
north on the rooftop of the Lacy Center building. Suspect
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ran to the northeast corner of the Lacy Center building
and approached the edge of the rooftop. Susp placed a
dark colored item on the rooftop and proceeded to lower
himself off the rooftop. Suspect dropped off the rooftop onto
the grass below. Suspect ran north near the parking lot
to the east of the Lazy Center, and at approximately
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twelve to twenty four, suspect ran north across Campus Drive Road.
Now let's pause right here for a second, and approximately
twelve to twenty three Charlie Kirk was shot, according to
the actual document here the affidavit of arrest, and approximately
twelve twenty four, sixty seconds later, the suspect had already
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gotten off that roof and was running across Campus Drive
Road in one minute sixty seconds. That seems strange to me.
Suspect appeared to be carrying an item whose identity is
not clear from the surveillance. The area to the north
of Campus Drive Road where the suspect crossed over consists
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of a grassy area with trees. On the edge of
the U campus, investigators discovered a bolt action rifle in
a dark colored towel. The rifle was determined to be
a Mouser Model ninety eight thirty odd six bolt action rifle.
The rifle had a scope mounted on top of it.
Investigators noted inscriptions had been engraved on the casings found
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with the rifle. I'm not going to tell you what
those are yet. I'll get because I'm going to get
into those in what they mean. Investigators also discovered a
shoe impression on the northeast corner rooftop edge of the
LACI Center building, and that shoe impression was located in
the vicinity where the suspect climbed down from the rooftop.
The shoe impression is consistent with the shoe sole characteristics
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of a converse Chuck Taylor's shoe. On the evening of
September eleventh, a family member of Tyler Robinson reached out
to a family friend who contacted the Washington County Sheriff's
Office with the information that Robinson had confessed to them
or implied that he had committed the incident. The information
was relaid to the Utah County Sheriff's all and Seeing
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investigators at UVU. The information was then conveyed to the FBI.
Investigators reviewed additional video footage from surveillance and identified Robinson
arriving on the campus and a gray Dodge Challenger at
approximately eight twenty nine am on September tenth, in which
he is observed on video in a Plaine Marine T
shirt like colored shorts, a black hat with a white logo,
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in light colored shoes. When encountered in person by investigators
in Washington County on September twelfth, early morning hours, he
was observed in consistent clothing with surveillance images. Investigators interviewed
a family member of Robinson, who stated that Robinson had
become more political in recent years. The family member referenced
a recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior
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to September tenth, and in a conversation with that family member,
Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. They talked
about why they didn't like him and the viewpoints he had.
The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate
in sprinting hate. The family member also confirmed Robinson had
a Gray Dodge Challenger. Investigators identified an individual as the
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roommate of Robinson. Interview of the roommate, who stated his
roommate referring to Robinson made a joke on discord, investigators
asked if he would show the messages to them on discord.
He opened it and showed several messages to investigators and
allowed investigators to take photos of the screen as each
message was shown by Robinson's roommate. These photos consisted of
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various messages, including content and messages between the phone contact
named Tyler and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of those
messages including messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating he
needed to retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving
a rifle in a bush, as well as messages related
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to visually watching the area where the rifle was left,
and a message referring to having left the rifle in
a towel. The message also referred to engraving bullets and
a mention of a scope and the rifle being unique.
Messages from the contact. Tyler also mentioned that he had
changed outfits based on this evidence detailed. I believe there's
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probable cause to arrest this guy. So that's the actual affidavit.
Now we're about to get in to some stuff. Now,
there are so many questions that we're going to cover today,
but before we do, let's talk about what we know
about who this kid is. Some of this I just
covered in the affidavit. He was twenty two years old.
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He was born and raised in Utah. This kid was
always a smart kid. His intellect was above and beyond
what maybe the average kids would be. He grew up
in a Republican household. Both of his parents were registered Republican.
His dad as a carpenter. He works on countertops. His
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mother is a social worker. He was raised, like most
people in Utah, as a Mormon, and when he was younger,
he was described as very active in the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, but as he got
older he would become less involved. Now he graduates high
school and he scores a nearly perfect thirty four on
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the Act, good enough that he gets an academic scholarship
to Utah State University a full ride for four years,
but he transfers out after one semester, and there's not
much information as to why he does continue to go
to college and actually attends Dixie Community College in Utah.
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It's more of a technical college. And he was on
the voting rolls as an independent in Utah, so he
did not affiliate with the Republican Party as his parents did.
He had no criminal record at the time of his arrest,
and he was working as a custodian at an elementary school.
So a family member that was interviewed by investigators and
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they don't specify who it was. They told investigators that
tr in the past couple of years became extremely political,
as I referenced in that affidavit. They said he was
full of hate and he spewed hate. And what happened
in the last couple of years, Well, he started college.
And I'm not trying to like start shit here, but
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I'm gonna tell you the facts. College indoctrinates a lot
of kids, and it almost seemed as though this kid
got indoctrinated. Now that is totally my opinion, that is
totally conjecture. At this point, I have no direct knowledge
of that, but a lot of kids getting doctrinated. And
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I'm speaking from experience because I got three kids, well,
one just graduated from college, the other two are going
into their junior years, and I know what goes on.
I know what the vast majority of these professors are
telling these kids first fucking hand. But we'll move on.
So that's what we know so far as it relates
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to tr as I'm recording this, Jim, did you see
what happened in Texas today? Wait before you tell me that,
let me tell you what happened in New York. It
cannot be as crazy as the case I told you
about yesterday in Louisiana. You know what, we should do
a podcast about it, and with that we did. Crime
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the description of this podcast. Let's move on into the theories,
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and let me preface everything I'm about to go over with.
I personally am as far from a conspiracy theorist as
you can get. As a matter of fact, I look
at things most times the total opposite of the way
someone that was looking for conspiracy would look at it.
I look at things as I'm going to take the
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investigation as its word, but I'm going to look at that,
and when things don't make sense, that's when I call
them out, not the other way around, where you've got
to prove to me your investigation is accurate. I kind
of look at that in the opposite. But this one's
got some problems now. I like to get only facts.
Conspiracy theories, for the most part, they lead down an
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endless tunnel of rabbit holes. But one thing I believe
is in asking questions. We should ask questions when things
don't make sense. There's a totally legitimate reason for what
we're being told. But if they don't tell us, we
don't know. And if we don't ask questions, they're not
going to volunteer it, right. I believe that when things
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do not add up, the honess is on us to
ask the questions and to find out why, and to
hold our government accountable, or investigators accountable, or whoever it
is to us. With this entire deal right here, there's
a lot of questions that need to be answered, stuff
that just don't make sense to me and many others.
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So that's what we're going to cover today. Now, first up,
let's talk about the signals. You may say, what do
you mean signals? Well, when Charlie was speaking just prior
to the shooting, there were two what are assumed to
be bodyguards behind Charlie and there's a lot of people
in the crowd and they're filming Charlie and you can
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see behind him these two guys, and they're using what
is known in the military as tactical signals. And notice
I didn't say they appeared to be using tactical signals,
because folks, I got a lot of experience with this,
and I know what I'm talking about, and I'm telling
you these guys, beyond a shadow of a doubt, we're
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using tactical signals. These were not natural movements. So what
does that mean? What were these guys saying. Let me
break this down for you. You got two guys here,
one with a white shirt and a white hat, the
other guy in a black shirt. He had a sleeve
of tattoos, and they were positioned behind Charlie, but they
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were on the sides of Charlie, not directly behind him. Now,
about three seconds before the shot, the man in white
touches the front of his hat and that is tactical
signal number one. It it indicates sniper. The man in
white then touches the side out of his face and
that indicates male figure. And this occurs in about a
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second and a half, maybe even less. Then immediately the
guy in the black shoots his arm straight out with
his palm down. That indicates one of two things. It
could indicate commence firing or could indicate someone is about
to commence firing. And the next signal is important because
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that kind of tells me what the signal I just
discussed with you means. The next signal, he places his
left arm crossing his torso, which indicates imminent danger, serious
and immediate threat. Now at that very moment, the shot
rings out. These are all facts and there's several ways
to look at this. First, did the bodyguards spot the
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sniper And it appears to me that they were not
communicating with the sniper, And that's kind of what's being
circulated out there in social media. They weren't talking to
a shooter. They were talking to each other. When you
have bodyguards, and this is the case with most public figures,
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they'll have bodyguards that served in the military, you know, Navy, seals,
you name it, and these guys communicate via sign language. Now,
these are all the facts, and there's several ways to
look at this. First, did the bodyguard spot the sniper
and it appears that they were communicating with each other.
The guy in black did look at the guy in white?
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Did they see this sniper and just did not react
quickly enough. Now, the protocol in this situation is to
cover and smother. And it's interesting to note that the
guy in black looks exactly like the guy who carried
Trump off the stage during the Pennsylvania shootings. But everything
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coming out right now is saying that's a completely different guy.
I don't even want to go down that rabbit hole
because it really is relevant to what we're talking about here.
But here's the deal on the signals theory. This is
my opinion only. I don't think anything nefarious was going
on with these guys. I believe these two bodyguards were
talking to each other and to break down into Layman's terms. Okay,
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if they were having this conversation out loud rather than
using tactical signals, here's what it would have sounded like.
In my view. The guy in white is saying, hey,
I see a male sniper. The guy in black is
saying he's about to shoot right now, and then VOTs.
The shot rings out right after he says he's about
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to shoot right now. So they didn't have time to react.
So what questions should we be asking? Regardless of I
believe that these were good guys, if you will, well,
we need to know who they are, what is their background,
and why, if in fact they did spot t R,
why did they not immediately and smother, Why did they
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take the three seconds to talk to each other? There
may be a completely legit reason for that, but I
want to know now. One thing I can tell you
with a very high degree of certainty is that the
FBI knows who these guys are, and likely they've been interviewed.
I would almost go out and lem and say I'm
positive about that. If the FBI wants to put this
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theory to bed, though, they need to be transparent and
maybe address it. One of these guys is holding out
a cell phone. The guy I'm white, He's holding out
a cell phone the whole time. And some people have
a theory that this was a wind speed detector to
ada sniper. But I don't think so. I think this
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is a scanner. It's a specific instrument to detect firearms,
and it probably runs through an app. And let me
say again, this is my opinion. I have no direct knowledge.
But what I can tell you is I have some
friends who own a company and they offer video surveillance
and they sell this video surveillance to hospitals, to schools,
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to prisons, and they can detect through AI certain shapes
of things. So I'm going to give you an example.
If this security system was put in a school and
they programmed it to pick up every time that a
kid made a motion towards his mouth with something like
a cigarette, It can pick that up and it will
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alert the school office that someone is smoking on floor
number two in that particular school. You can also load
firearms into it, thousands of firearms, and it can detect
the shape of those firearms, and it will do it
to a like ninety nine point nine to nine percent
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degree of certainty. And it will alert if it's a prison. Hey,
somebody in this pod has a firearm, those sorts of things. Look,
this guy, I'm white. This bodyguard, he's not filming the
crowd because he's taking footage for the TikTok videos that
Charlie Kirk is going to put out. That's not why
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he was holding a cell phone the entire time. It's
my belief he was scanning rooftops, and it's my belief
that as he was scanning those rooftops, just before he
touches the bill of that hat, he got a hit
because that kid stuck his head up and he saw
that gun and he was communicating to the other bodyguard
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and telling him there's a male sniper on the freaking
roof The other bodyguard looked up and confirmed that and
basically said, yeah, he's there and he's about to shoot,
and they just did not have time beyond that to
do anything. That's my belief. Now, I will be posting
some pretty interesting stuff related to this on the Patreon,
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so check that out out if you're not a member.
Now let's get into the day of the shooting, and
there are many things that don't add up for me
here let's talk about the videos that we know to exist.
We see a video just prior to the shooting of
tr and he's walking through a neighborhood and he has
a distinct lamp. Now, no rifle is present in his hands,
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so the assumption here is that the rifle was shoved
down his pants leg. And man, this is a tough
one for me. Thirty E to six is a full
length firearm, meaning it measures forty inches or so in length,
which is over three feet. And before we go any further,
I spoke to an expert about this and he is
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of the same believe i am that this shit just
don't fly. Doesn't seem possible. And this is really where
it gets hazy for me. Now, the report says he
was walking through that neighborhood prior to the shooting. However,
I'm starting to question that if it was after the
shooting when he was caught limping through that neighborhood, which
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would make much more sense to me since we have
video of this guy jumping off a roof that was,
you know, several stories high, where he certainly could have
injured his ankle, injured his leg, and that would explain
the limping but the official report says he arrived on
campus in a great challenger. So why is he running
through a neighborhood. I don't know. I don't get it.
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None of that makes sense. But let's talk about this
rifle thing. This weapon's ever three feet long. Now, I
took a tape measure, and I'm almost six feet I'm
just shy of six feet tall. I stretched that tape
measure out at the same length of a thirty odd
six and guess what that would go about four inches
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above my waist. And what the investigation is wanting us
to believe is that he walked through a campus with
a thirty odd six shoved down his pants. Now, another
thing I noticed in that surveillance footage. If these pants
ain't baggy, I mean, they appear to fit him. If
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you're gonna shove a thirty odd six down your pants,
wouldn't you buy a wayte size that was three or
four sizes larger than which he'd normally wear. How are
you gonna fit it in there? But it's not like
the legs of his pants are super baggy. Something is
not right with that. It just doesn't wash with me.
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But that's the story that we're being told now, not
only does he shove the thing down his pants get
through campus, but he walks up flights of stairs with
a thirty odd six shove down his pants. How do
you even get up the stairs without basically grabbing the
sides of the stairs and limping your way up them
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because you cannot bend your leg. He could didn't even
have a slight bend in his leg. If he's got
a rifle shoved down it, I don't buy that. I
got no proof, you know, I got no direct knowledge,
but that seems like some major bullshit right there. Now,
they've got all this video that they've released, in several
pictures they've released, raise your hand if you've seen a
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picture of him with a gun. I've seen not one
picture of this kid with a gun. I see him
lumping in their saying he's got a gun in his pants,
But I don't see a picture of that kid with
a gun. It don't exist, or if it exists, they're
not showing it to the same thing with video. No
video of him with a gun in his hands. As
a matter of fact, and we're going to lead to
another issue with this investigation. The way it went down
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that we're being told, and that is that he jumped
off that roof, and we have the video of him
jumping off of a roof. Do you see a gun
in that video? I don't. Now, granted, it's very grainy.
It looks like something Bigfoot would put out, you know,
Bigfoot sighting grainy like that twenty twenty five. You can't
get a clear picture or nothing. And he's definitely carrying
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something in his hand. A lot of people say that's
the backpack. I say it's a towel. But they ain't
a gun in that picture that I've been able to see.
So if it exists, FBI, whoever, law enforcement in that community,
release it so that we can put that to bed.
But regardless of that, with what we have to go
off of, the kid gets down off of the building,
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he runs through some woods. We're being told that he
hides this gun in a towel, and then he disappears
into oblivion. Now immediately following Charlie Kirk's shooting, a middle
aged man who had apparently had some issues. I don't
have any doubt about that. He gets taken down and
a lot of people say he was a diversion who knows.
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I don't know. I know one thing, he was crazy
because he was screaming shoot me as they were carrying
him out of the place. But he was released and
we are being told he had absolutely nothing to do
with this then. And look, I've been a supporter of
Cash Pattel since he was brought on as FBI director
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of Wade his book, I've had a lot of respect
for Cash, but honestly, he totally screws the pooch when
he comes out with a post on X and he proclaimed,
and I quote, the subject for this horrific shooting today
that took the life of Charlie Kirk is in custody. Now,
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that was four hours after the shooting. And guess what,
that dude gets released. And that is a major fuck
up right there. You can't do that as FBI director.
I understand maybe he got some bad intel or whatever
it was, but you cannot do that. Why is that
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an issue? Because guess what, everybody stops looking at that point, everybody,
the whole public stops looking. Another thing. I had to
an issue with They had pictures, they had video, They
came out and said they had this early on in
the investigation, but released absolutely none of it. Why because
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every minute that you take that you don't release pictures
of video and the guy is on the loose, you
take a chance of somebody else getting hurt or killed.
You also take a chance of this guy being able
to get away. And you know what, they released the
pictures and that's how they caught him, because this dad
recognized him. You should have released those way early in
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day one, you had the pictures. You did not. I
don't understand why. I don't get that. Now. There's also
a theory that tr and Charlie had a run in
once before. There's a video that's going around. It's viral,
and it's saying that this guy in custody, it was
determined that him and Charlie had a debate on a campus.
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Look the guy that was having the debate, I give
it to you. He looks very similar to the guy
that they have in custody, but not similar enough that
I think it's the same person. I'm just not convinced.
But I'll go ahead and I'll play you the audio
of that back and forth with Charlie kirk in this guy,
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and I'll put the video on Patreon for you to watch.
If you're a Patreon member. Here's that.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Hey, this guy just wies hell no, no, he's a liar,
so okay, he can debate.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
He just okay. Well, I mean, you could say whatever
you want if you want to make a fool of yourself,
But we do have like ten year olds here in
eleven year old son, have some decency.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
You don't care your typical leftist because you only care
about yourself. Who said not about the other people who
said I was a leftis now. Another theory refers to
two shooters. And the reason that people are doing that
is the nine to one one dispatch that came out
the actual dispatch club, and it talks about people relaying
what the shooter looks like, how he's dressed, et cetera.
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And it stated from the dispatcher to police that witnesses
on the singer saying this guy is dressed in all
black with a tactical helmet on. Folks, there is no
way in the world that a baseball cap can be
mistaken for a tactical helmet. So I want you to
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listen to this dispatch audio, and that's the advice. Tobu
and Orum has had an active shooter at a Charlie
Kirk event. We're getting several calls for trying to get
more information.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
She's going to be wearing all black, black, long gun.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Like tactical helmet, a black mask, possibly wearing a tactical
vest and jeans.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Just need to see if building just use of celeby.
He's wearing Jean's flea shirt, black man blow racial and.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
What you heard there was black shirt, black vest, black
tactical helmet, dark jeans. And that's not the guy that
was arrested. That's not the guy that we saw in
those picks with a baseball cap on. Now that's just
something to think about. I will tell you that eyewitness
accounts are about the most inaccurate accounts that you can
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ever get. Luck, if a guy goes in and robs
a bank and there's six people in that bank, three
of them are going to say he had on something
he did not have on. I mean, it happens all
the time, but man, it is really hard to mistake
a black tactical helmet with a baseball cap. Really hard
to screw those two things up. So even on my
own page exposed Annalysts files of the Elites Facebook page,
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some great questions and some strange statements. Then I'm gonna
address and first I'm going to address Julie Ann Lyncia Crawford.
And she said on my Facebook page that it was
a setup that Charlie was talking too much about Epstein
and Orange Cheetah, and of course she's referring to President Trump.
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So let's address this because this is a classic diversion tactic.
Now it's safe to say that I think Miss Crawford
is not a Trump fan and either she is way
left or left, or she just doesn't have any party
at all and is just a shit starter. Either way,
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two problems with that theory. First, conflicting Epstein with this
is just freaking stupid. And second, Trump absolutely love Charlie,
so I would invite Miss Crawford to do her fucking research.
The whole Trump family was very tight with Charlie. As
a matter of fact, Donald Trump Junior looked at him
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as a little brother. That's how much I loved Charlie Kirk.
That's someone who is spewing the same bullshit that gets
us in the situations that we're in. Plain and simple, Sorry,
you're wrong, do your research just had nothing to do
with Donald Trump. Keep reaching but what those people try
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to do is they try to take the heat away
from where it belongs. And unfortunately a lot of these
people are out of touch with what's going on. So
let's discuss real quick the left and what they've had
to say. Now, many are on the same side as
the right. They are denouncing political violence in any way,
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shape or form, and some seem to really be sincere
with uh, you know, I'm sorry this happened. In our
thoughts and prayers are with Charlie's family, those sort of things.
Barack Obama came out and he said some very you
know what, you would expect nice things about Charlie Kirk
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in the situation, and how it you know, we don't
want this shit here in the United States. Same thing
with Joe Biden. But you also have some people that
lack any sort of empathy at all. And that brings
me to a conversation between ilhan Omore, who is a
congresswoman for the state of Minnesota, and Neisa said four
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and not from and that's because she is not from
the state of Minnesota. She is from Somalia. But she
is talking about Kirk's assassination with a guy by the
name of Medai Hassan, and he's a broadcaster from Great
Britain who now lives here in the United States. And
this is likely going to piss you off a little bit.
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I want you to listen to this.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
What I do know for sure is that you know,
Charlie was someone who once said, you know, gun seed
lives after a school shooting. Charlie was someone who was
willing to debate and downplay the death of George Floyd
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in the hands of Minneapolis police. Right have no regard,
downplay slavery and what black people have gone through in
this country by saying juneteen should never exist. And I
think you know that there are a lot of people
who are out there talking about him, just wanting to
have a civil debate, rewriting of complete rewriting of history. Yeah,
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there is nothing more fed up, you know, like uh
than to than to completely pretend that you know, his
words and actions have not been recorded and and and
in existence for for the last decade or so.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So here's why you just absolutely have to love America.
You have two people here Ill Hannah Moore who's from Somalia,
as I said, and she immigrated to the US because
we are who we are. She has a privilege of
serving in Congress. And you have a reporter from Great
Britain who lives here now and we give him, well
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both of them citizenship, and both of these folks absolutely
take every opportunity they can to not only shit on
America but also say stupid shit like what I just played,
basically saying Charlie Kirk's dead because he supported the Second Amendment,
and you know, we shouldn't feel sorry for him because
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it's kind of his fault. Make no mistake about it.
Ilhn Omar hates everything freedom stands for. I said what
I said. So let's get into another theory, which is
the Massaud theory. And some are saying and for those
that don't know, the Massaud is like Israel's version of
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the CIA, that Charlie Kirk was having kind of some
issues with the Masad. I don't buy it because Trump
was c to Charlie. Trump's family was close to Charlie,
as I just said, and he never would have allowed it.
And I understand Israel Scott money and all these sorts
of things, but Israel is not going to do shit
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like that without the approval of the President. I promise
you because of it was found out that they did,
that would be hell to pay. That's all I can say,
So I don't put a whole lot of stock into
that theory. Now, let's talk about the meaning of the
etchings that were found on those bullet casings. So there
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were four etchings. One was on a spent casing and
three were on non fired casings. Now, on the fired casing,
the etching read notices bulges owo in all caps. What
is this question mark? Now? Owo is a slang expression.
It's really an emulogy that is used in text communications
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to convey a surprise or excitement. And the phrase notices
bulges is a piece of Internet slang often paired with
od wo. And it was a meme way back from
twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, and it refers to the
visible outline of male genitalia through clothing. The second casing
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had hey fascist catch and then it had an arrow up,
an arrow to the right, an arrow down, and then
two other arrows down. And what does that mean? It's
a sequence of control inputs in a video game known
as Held Divers two, which is a game that relates
to fascist and authoritarianism. And they fight enemies for democracy.
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That's what the game's all about, so it makes sense, right.
The next bullet casing had o Bellachow and it's actually
a anti fascist song. And then the final casing set
if you read this you are gay lmao. And of
course what that means stands for itself, so that covers
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the bullet casings and what they mean. Now, another thing
I want to talk about is the shot that was
actually fired. Yes, that was an easy shot with a
thirty odd six from two hundred yards out. It's not
a hard shot necessarily. What surprised me was the fact
that this twenty two year old kid can make that
shot with the pressure involved, coupled with the inexperience of
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the shooter. I mean, he has no criminal records, so
we're not going to assume that the guy has killed
somebody before, and it seems like the circumstances would make
that a harder shot. Not to mention, you're shitting in
a human being, You're not shitting in a deer. But
as someone pointed out to me on Facebook, I'm looking
at this situation as a person who does not have
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hate in his heart. When you do have hate, in
your heart, the pressure alleviates a little bit because you
want to kill that person. So I'm glad I can't
relate to that. It just seemed like a harder shot
apparently than it was to me. So lastly, today, let's
get into the forensics of all this, because that's important
and it's very interesting, and we're going to talk about
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some things here. Now, keep in mind, the subject in
this situation is firing from an elevated position down and
it's a single shot that enters to the left of
what's referred to as the midline of the neck. Now,
there's a ton of blood that comes out from this
hole in Charlie's neck immediately. And one of the things
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kind of interesting is that Charlie actually drew up his
right arm. And if you'll remember in the Subruder film
for JFK, when JFK got shot, his arms immediately go
up and he raises his hands right and this is
a general response. It's a neuro muscular response. A lot
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of people had questions as to why his arms went
up like that, and that's why we discussed the gun
a little bit. But it was a Mauser thirty odd six,
So that's a thirty caliber round. The six comes in
because the round was actually developed to nineteen o six
and it's a weapon of war. It was used in
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World War One, world War two in Korea. Nowadays it's
used for deer hunting primarily. The Mauser is a German
manufactured weapon originally. So one of the things that kind
of struck me about this is how because a Mauser
is a very robust weapon has a wooden stock, It's
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not like a modern weapon where you can take it
down very easily and just break it down into these
small parts like you can an AR fifteen. You can't
do that. And I covered enough of that earlier. But
that's the part of this whole fucking thing that I
can't wrap my mind around. I don't believe he stuck
that thing down his pants. I just don't buy it.
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Another eyepiece to this, he didn't cycle the weapon, okay,
because the spent round was still in the rifle. This
is a bolt action rifle. You have to physically cycle
it every time you shoot around. So you shoot around,
you pull that bolt back, it ejects the round you
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just shot, and it puts another live round in there,
and you cycle it through that chamber. That didn't happen
in this case. He actually left the weapon with that
spent round still in place. Now they didn't mention speaking
of forensics, during this investigation, they had several prints. One
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of those was a palm print that was on the
actual gun itself. They had some prints from where he
jumped off the roof apparently, and had some shoeprints there
as well. But look, prints are great, but if you
don't have a record, you can load in the NCIIC
and they're not going to have any hits. They're not
going to tell you who that person was. But it
was great that they did get some prints and maybe
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it'll prove that that KiB was actually there. But you know,
another question that I did get asked was how did
the Massau We talked a little bit about them earlier,
but how did the Massile know that Charlie Kirk, the
Israeli CIA, if you will, that Charlie Kirk was killed
twenty minutes before it was announced. And that is kind
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of the easiest thing for me to answer here. Look,
it didn't take a rocket scientist when you saw that
video to know there was no way Charlie Kirk could
survive that. There's no miracle in the world where Charlie
Kirk could survive that if you had the best, the
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finest team of vascular surgeons ever known to man, standing
right there when he got shot, ready to go, it
was still unsurvivable that injury. And they knew that, I mean,
they weren't going out on a limb by any means
by declaring him dead. And how do we know that, Well,
it comes down to the trajectory of the round. When
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that round hit Charlie Kirk, it transsected the vessels in
his neck. Now think of it this way. You know
when you feel your pulse, okay, adjacent to your larnings,
you can actually feel the pulse throbbing. Well, this shot
was just to the left of the larnings. And what
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else is along that path the cervical spine. So if
you think about it, C one, C two, C three,
C four, anything in that range, that shot is going
to be unsurvivable. Why because in that area that's actually
what controls your diaphragm. So taking in air, pushing out air,
that's all controlled by C one, C two, C three,
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and C four your spine. You're not gonna have that
capability if you just got shot in that area. So
that shot was unsurvivable in any circumstance. And some people
have also asked me, is there any way to know
where he was actually aiming? And let me tell you
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what the FBI is going to do, because they're gonna
be all over this thing. There's gonna be a trial
in this It's gonna be a death penalty trial, according
to all accounts. So this kid ain't gonna plead to anything.
He's not gonna plead guilty to death. So they're going
to go back in and the FBI is going to
do a shooting recreation in the same environment, and they're
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going to try to match everything exactly to the way
it was that day. And one of the things that
you have to consider is bullet drop when you're trying
to determine what was this guy actually aiming, where the
bullet hit, and there's something called bullet and from two
hundred yards, you're not talking about much bullet drop, if
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any at all. But what this means is when around
is fired, just like every person on Earth, we're all
impacted by gravity, right, Well, projectiles are no different. So
gravity is going to start to pull that round actually
down the second it leaves that gun. So let's just
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say an individual may have been aiming for center mass
of someone's head. It could drop, you know, potentially that much.
You also have other factors to consider, like crosswinds, you
have tailwinds. All these things affect the trajectory of that bullet.
So I don't think he was necessarily aiming for you know,
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nobody really aims for the neck. I think he was
aiming for center mass to the head and he had
just a little bit a slight drop from two hundred yards,
but maybe some wins carry it where it ended up
hitting Charlie Kirk. And lastly, on that as it relates
to forensic evidence, one of the things that stuck out
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to me and I said a little bit about this earlier,
they should have released pictures earlier. That's my interpretation of it.
That's my opinion of it. I think those pictures should
have went out immediately. And why is that? Because you've
got these images out there and it becomes what the
military would referred to as a force multiplier. You put
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those images out, hundreds of thousands of millions of people,
all of their eyes are on that picture, because this
is such a big story. Anywhere he's ever gone, anyone
he ever knows, family, friends, enemies, doesn't matter. They're going
to be looking at that picture, and if they recognize
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tr in this case, they're going to call the police
and say I know that guy. And that's just what happened.
But it took a little while, and we're very fortunate
this kid didn't go on another shooting spree somewhere. I
just feel like they should have released that when they
had it four hours after the shooting. The more eyes
on that thing, the better. So there you have it.
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That is all the information up to right now when
I'm recording this. Anyway, of course, this is an active investigation.
Some of the things I said on here may be
proved to be different as we go along in the investigation,
but that's where I'm at right now. Thank you so
much for listening. Check out the Patreon. I'm going to
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put some things that I talked about on here on
the Patreon page for supporters of that page, So check
that out linked in the comments if you're interested in
joining all the celebrities on Patreon. Many prayers going out
to the family of Charlie Kirk just couldn't imagine horrible,
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tragic situation and we just got to quit this as
a country. In my opinion, this is too much hate.
It's just too much hate. You can disagree, We can
agree to disagree and walk away and not have to
kill each other. I hope we can get back to that.
And until next time for exposed scandalous files of the elite,
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I'm your host, Jim Chapman. Much love,
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