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September 2, 2024 43 mins
Mark and I started acting a fool talking Cowboys. From our most hated opponent, favorite jerseys and what the record might be this year. And though the season ended in January, I’m still pissed at them. #GoCowboys
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And we're back Fan Poll Sports, a true tex sports
podcast for the true Texas sports fan. Once again. I'm
your host, Ronnie Langford and back in the lab with
my main man, my good friend Mark Ramirez. Mark, welcome
back to the program.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hey hey, hey, hey man.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Football season is quickly approaching. College football kicking off this
weekend big time. Next weekend, September the eighth, at three
twenty five, I believe from Cleveland. Oh hell no, the
Dallas Cowboys, America's team rolling into the land to play

(00:46):
at the Mistake by the Lake that I won't even
go to tell you why that that's called that, but
that stadium, that that area is not a good place
in Cleveland anyways, the Cowboys the Browns next Sunday. But
before we let the season kick off, Man, before we
get things rolling with the regular season, I know you

(01:06):
wanted to talk Cowboys, dude, So here's your shot. Dude,
take the lead. Let me know what you got. Five questions,
ten questions, whatever you want, dude, Mark, the floor is yours.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
All right.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
My first question is because and I know you always
ask me questions and we kind of take a direction,
and what you want to take the show because obviously
this podcast is more your baby than mine. But my
first question is, what would be Let's just say it's
game day, right, Let's just say you're you're showing up
to the game, or you're watching the game with friends,

(01:44):
or you're watching the game at a bar. What would
you say is these are just kind of three kind
of slash things. What's your go to beer? What is
your go to snack? What is your go to let's
just say protein. Just to be politically correct.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Okay, first of all, I don't do well with political correctness,
Like I have an opinion and I don't care if
people like her not.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
So you don't have to be politically correct on this show.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
You know, I would be very careful about maybe some
of the words that we choose to use from time
to time, but there is a reason why you can
tag them as explicit episodes. Go to beer man, you know,
obviously I don't partake any dope beverage like like I
used to, like we did growing up when we were

(02:34):
flying high in the cowboy glory days. But whether I'm
at home, whether I'm at someone's house or at a
bar watching the game, probably the go to beer still
is bud Light, even with all the stupid controversies that
happened the last couple of years with who the spokesperson was.
I don't care. I just want to drink a beer.

(02:56):
I'm might have a beer. Bud Light's still my go
to beer. Go to snack probably nachos, dude, you know
what I mean, just whether it's got you know, stuff
added with it or if it's just the cheese and
the and the chips.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I'm going nachos. You know, I'm good with that.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
And I guess if I'm if I'm going protein, dude,
I'll never I'll never turn down, uh, you know, an
opportunity to have some good breasket and sausage, you know,
a combination of some sort. Uh. But I mean pretty much, dude,
I'm a carnivore so to speak, So any kind of meat,

(03:37):
you know, fairly fairly. Uh, I'm not gonna discriminate one
way or another, you know, so I'm cool with I'm
cool with that. But yeah, man, or even even a
burger dude, even a good burger man. Uh. You know,
like I said, I'm not going to discriminate when it
comes to food, and especially especially if we're out somewhere, dude,
and somebody's offering it for free, which you know, we're

(03:58):
gonna have to. We're gonna we met. We may have
to go back and visit our friends at the uts
A tailgate this year, dude, because they had some good food,
they had some good drinks, so we may we may
have to go explore. We have to go explore again,
you know.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
So that's that's leveling, and I'm glad the UTSA is
we can actually experience that here.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Oh man, Yeah, I think I'm right with you.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
The snack with the nachos, man, because not just for
me rule. It goes back to like beat somebody here.
But you know I love nachos macaus. I kind of
got everything, Yeah, I be. I'm sure you can guess it.
One guess you yeah? And then, uh, my protein, it's
got to be fordas.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Man.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
If if I'm watching the game, I gotta have faidas.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Now the chicken.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
It's not the same, right right, this is Texas. We're
gonna have beef fatas.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
You know.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
My next my next question, Uh listen, obviously you got
your food, you're ready to go.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
You watch the game.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
What jersey you would you be willing to buy this season,
this year, when it's past present.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Future player. I mean, what jersey are you wearing?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Okay again, there's only one. There's only one jersey that
I'm wearing, and I still have I still have the
jersey that I got in nineteen ninety three. Okay, No,
it doesn't fit. It's more of a medium now than
it is. Even though the tag says large, it ain't large.

(05:29):
Or maybe maybe I'm not Maybe I'm not large anymore.
Maybe I'm a little bigger than that. But it's only
one and it's my eighty eight and that's Michael Irvin.
There's no way, there's no way in hell I'm wearing
any other player's name on the back of my jersey
with the number eighty eight if it's not Michael Irvin.

(05:49):
I mean, my children have tried to buy me other
eighty eight jerseys. We've been in Cowboys Stadium and I
was offered an opportunity to buy a Uh my kids
were gonna buy me an eighty eight jersey and it
didn't say Irvin on the back, so I had to
turn them down.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
So, uh, that's who was it?

Speaker 3 (06:09):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah? It was Bryant.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
You know and and again, not to take anything away
from Dez, not to take anything away from CD, but
they they weren't Michael.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
They're they're not those guys. Those guys couldn't show up
to big games like he did. Did they have They
had big moments, yes, but they don't show up to him.
You know, they don't.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
They don't heat up the ball. He caught the damn ball.
That's all I gotta say.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, Okay, I'm moving on to the next question. I'm
going to be fast. I want to be fast.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Now you're good.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
What do you think what do you think is.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Moving forward with the Cowboys this season? Is the better
uh the better part of the team? O?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Line?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I mean offense, defense, special teams? What do you think
is the strong suit of this team?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, I mean right, I mean obviously when you look
at it, dude, the the defensive line is and they've
made some additions. Uh, it's pretty nasty, you know what
I mean. I would say right now, that is probably

(07:23):
the best part of the team. We talked about this
a little bit last night, you know, and I told
you I do agree with you. I think we have
a very good special teams. I mean, our kicker kicked
the sixty six yard are in freaking preseason, man, So uh,
it's that dude. That dude's special. Like, I don't know how.
I don't know what we did because we had so

(07:44):
many terrible kickers that screwed us, that hurt us, that
that blue opportunities. I don't know what we did to
be blessed with that guy, but I am. I am
so excited that Brandon Aubrey is a Dallas cowboy. But
I would say, you know, the defensive line dude, anytime
you can, you can showcase guys like uh, you know Dexter, Lawrence, Michaeh. Parsons,

(08:08):
you know some of those guys, uh and some of
the others along uh Ziggi Zua. You know, I just
like saying oziggi zua. But that dude's a hell of
a guy. I may I may have to use that.
I may have to use that in some way of
describing something. I don't know what I'll describe, but I'll
just call it an Oziggi zoo and you'll know what
I'm talking about. But but no, yeah, dude, I think

(08:29):
that defensive line dude is probably the best thing about
the Cowboys right now. Uh, defense as a whole I
think is going to be better this year under Mike Zimmer.
But uh, you know, if you're if you're looking at
one of the three parts, I would say the defense
is just a little bit step above the other two
parts of the team right now.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Great. I didn't answer the last question though.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
On the jersey wise, it's funny you bring up special
teams because I think Aubrey by one of his jersey's,
like right now, dude wouldn't think two seconds about it.
And I never thought in my life that I would say, Hey,
I want to get a Kickers A Kickers jersey.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Dude, I'm telling you right now, if you buy a
Brandon Aubrey jersey, I will go out and I will
find a Raphael Septian jersey and I will wear I
will sport you know what, No, you know what. No,
I will go find me a Tony's and Dejas jersey.

(09:30):
I won't weary in.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Hey, hey, remember when the remember when these teams used
to kick barefoot? These players kick, Yeah, dude, Tony Franklin,
he will tell M yeah, yeah, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I don't even dude, I don't even I don't even
kick my cat barefooted.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Screw that, dude. Hell no, I ain't gonna kick no
ball barefoot. It's wrong with you.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Now, I will enter time.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh hell no? Hell no?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Did I were like really?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I were like six, I were like six pairs of socks,
you know, when it's cold outside, you know, and I'm
in Texas and you know you're gonna want me to
go kicking mile high you know stadium in Denver, or
or the Meadowlands in New York barefoot. You gotta be
out your damn mind.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Hell no, hell no?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
So what you got? What's your next question?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Well?

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Let me let me also talk about the special teams
D in offense. For me, I think the strength for
the moment, because we haven't seen it play yet. I
want to say it's the offense. But the O line
does worry me. But I've been hearing good things about
the center, and I've been hearing good things about the tackles,

(10:48):
and I'm hoping that. I don't know why, man, I
hate this is what I hate by being a Cowboys fan.
I don't know what it's about.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Zeke being back.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
It just kind of just makes me feel warm inside.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
It could be fool's gold.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
It could be that that is called that is called heartburn.
What you're feeling inside right now is heartburn.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
When you say that you're like excited that Zeke is back,
that's what that is.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
I'm not excited.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
It just makes me feel like, Okay, this is a warm,
hot cocoa in the winter time, and I just like
having it.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Not that I rather than not having it.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Okay, I'm not saying it's you know, next level great,
but okay, my.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Next question it goes into hete asking this man, what
do you think the record's going to be?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
What do you how many wins do you see this
Dallas Cowboy team for this season?

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Let me, I got to pull up their schedule because
I really don't know like who they're playing this year
other than their teams that they normally pay in the division.
You know, we talked about it before. Man, this is
a twelve wins for the last three years. So it's
not like they're a slouch. It's not like they're you know,

(12:07):
the the Redskins or or even like the Giants or whatever.
But it's one of those things that they haven't had
that type of success that you would think that a
twelve win team should have or or does have. You know,
let me let me look, let's see they got obviously.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Why you do that? Let me let me just ask
the next question because it'll be easier.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Okay, what is it that you What is the one
thing and why you hate the other teams in the conference?

Speaker 3 (12:38):
What?

Speaker 4 (12:38):
What reason or why would you what team do you
hate more?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (12:42):
So, and I know I already know the answer, but
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
The simple answer to this is they're not the Cowboys. Okay,
that's the simple answer. They're not the Cowboys. That's why
I hate them, and I hate them all. Yeah, But
I guess the the big thing is do because growing
up you knew that you had to go through everybody
in this division. And if you think back to it

(13:07):
when we were younger in the late seventies early eighties,
Saint Louis, who are now Arizona, they were also part
of this division. So you think about that division, Dallas,
Saint Louis, Philadelphia, New York, Washington, those were those five
teams at some point were the best team in the NFL.

(13:30):
Saint Louis as the Cardinals, they never made.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
It to the Super Bowl. But when you look.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Back and growing up and watching that that Sunday afternoon telecast,
you were you were fighting in that division, dude. And
so you know, one year the Cowboys were great. The
next year maybe the Redskins were great. The next year,
maybe the Giants were great. Then here comes Philadelphia. You know,
Saint Louis always seemed like they played at Bush Stadium

(14:01):
where the Cardinals, the baseball team played for years. So
you know, they always had that weird, you know look
on the field because they had the the the bases
covered and and it was it was ugly astro turf.
And the Cowboys always had to wear that awful blue.

(14:21):
It's like now it's a navy blue that they have
as a blue jersey, But back in the seventies, it
was like a different blue, and they couldn't win on
the road, and it just seemed.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Like it was called boy blue. It was called cowboy blue.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, it was called it was called cowboy Well. The
reason I know that is because my mom bought me
about us a Canno pig. It was called cowboy blue,
and we painted our room in the eighties cowboy blue.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Well, because of that.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
It caused a lot of blues for the Cowboys, you know,
I'll tell you that much. But but that was the thing, dude.
It was just like that this division, you just you
had to if you were the best in this division,
you had a chance to go on a run in
the playoffs and and win a super Bowl, you know.
And so so that's that's why, that's why I hate

(15:11):
all of these teams because they were they were always
knocking each other off. And like I said, they're not
the Cowboys. The one team that I hate and I
didn't I didn't really hate them when I was younger
as much as I hate them now.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
And that's the Philadelphia Eagles. Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
The team that I hated growing up and the team
that I still hate are the Washington Redskins. Don't get
me started on the name change. They're the Redskins. Are
always gonna be the Redskins. I don't care what anybody says.
So I always hate the Redskins. But dude, I hate
Philadelphia even more. And there's that there's that part of
me that I and I know what you I know,

(15:49):
you know what I'm talking about. There's that part of
me deep down inside that just wants to go to
Philadelphia decked out from head to toe in Cowboys gear,
stand on the damn fifty yard line in the middle
of that damn Eagle and give them a double bird
all the way around the stadium. That's how I feel

(16:09):
about that place, you know. And like I've talked to
other people about that, and they're like, dude, you know
what would happened to you if you did something like
that in Philadelphia? They would cute. And if you think
that I'm gonna go down like a chump and I
wouldn't be going down swinging, you better think again.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
There's no there's no, there's no Oh my god, it's
Philly home work. Screw that, screw that, Screw Philadelphia, screw
their fans, screw the Liberty Bell, you know. I mean,
Benjamin Franklin like all of it. I don't give two
shits about it. You know. It's It's one of those
it's one of those things that I'll never root for them.
I'll never cheer for them when they when they won

(16:47):
the Super Bowl a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Dude, I was.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Physically sick, Let's just put it that way. I was
physically sick. Okay, right right back at you.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
I could easily see you doing that, like we're not
an nWo, but like walking to the middle of that
field with kind of a cowboys shirt, just walking out.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Let me tell you, let me tell you, let me
tell you.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Hold on, hold on you remember the you remember Crazy Ray,
Remember the old cowboy Crazy Ray. Yeah, that's the outfit.
That's the outfit that I would do it with. And
I'd have the guns and everything, you know, and I'd
have the damn stick horse with me too. That's what
it would be. Crazy Ray, Crazy Ray. They'd be calling
me crazy Ron, That's what they'd be calling me. Ship.

(17:36):
I'm just saying, dude, I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
I love questioning more than anything, because that's that's your
courte man, that's right in your wheelhouse, dude.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
It would be one of those things like like Rick
Flair walking the strut on the side. That's what it
would be. That's what it would be.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
So anyway for me, for me, I man, I'm with her.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Man. The sentiment is the same.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
I cannot stand the Eagles, man, I cannot stand those fans.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
I cannot stand that they they.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Food Santa Claus, they threw batteries at the cowboys. They
they cheered when when You're eighty eight eighty eight went down,
and I'm like, wow, really, like really the city of
what brotherly love?

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah right?

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Yeah, like yeah, no, no, I'm sorry, bro. The only
cool thing about Philadelphia, and I will say this, the
only cool thing about Philadelphia, other than their chief steaks
that Malik used to sell here, is the fact that
that Rocky statue was there.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
That's the only thing that I think I revealed that
more than I do.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
There's only one thing, there's only one thing more overrated
than Philadelphia sports team, and it's that damn Rocky statue. Okay,
that damn thing. That thing, that damn thing hits fifth
teen Minutes of Glory and Fame. It ended in nineteen
seventy six, and I don't know why the hell it's
still there, you know what I mean. You know, I
get it. The movie was based on that, and that's where. Okay,

(19:11):
so it's a movie prop. Get it, get it out.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Of the way, move it along, move it along, you
know what I mean. It's not the freaking Alamo, Like
people didn't die.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
There, you know, of course, Philadelphia being the murder Capital
of America. I'm sure. I mean, I'm sure they're in
the top three, So somebody may have died there. Somebody
may be dying there right now. I don't know, but
I mean, you talk about an overrated, an overrated movie.
Prop that's that damn Rocky statue. The best thing that
ever happened to that statue is when Sylvester Stallone took

(19:39):
his helmet off and threw it at it in Rocky
four after.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Apollo was killed. Because you didn't throw.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
In the damn towel. If you would have thrown the
talent in like you threw the helmet at the statue,
Apollo would still be alive today.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Tell us how you can really feel. I knew this
question was gonna be the best one. Anyway. I'm upset
I got an extra one.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, I'm upset that Apollo
had to die like that.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Apollo creed.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Apollo Creed should not have gone out looking like a chump.
I don't care what nobody says. Rocky Balboa did him wrong,
did him wrong, Italian Stallion, whatever you want to call yourself,
you did him wrong because Apollo Cree should have not
gone out like a chump should throw it in like
the hey, like his manager said, man, throw in the

(20:34):
damn town, throw the damn and he didn't do it.
Like I hate you Rocky Balboa for that, although I
loved him by the end of the movie when you
know he beat the Russian and he's like.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
If he could change, and you could, us could change,
we just could all change. And I was like, dude,
why are you adding essence to everything?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Bro?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Like what is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I mean, I know your brain dead because you got
the shit knocked out of you fifty seven times? But
my god, like why is everything a used like use guys?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
And what are you a used car salesman?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
What?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
What?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
What are you doing? What are you doing Philadelphia?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Dude? I mean the heart monitors going off on the
smart Watch because because of Philadelphia, Right.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
That was pretty good? Actually, no good? Right there.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I'm telling you, I told you I've got plenty. I've
been waiting. I've got plenty real quick. Let me go back,
Let me let me go back before you give me
that next question. Uh, eleven wins, I got, I got
eleven wins. I think I think they still have some
ghosts to conquer by playing the forty nine ers this year.
I think that Baltimore team coming in a week three

(21:38):
is gonna be a tough one. I dude, we've beaten
Detroit like seven times in a row. I think Detroit
is due they They may pull that one off in October.
The one game that I hate to admit that the
Cowboys might lose is to the Texans. Dude. The Texans
may be playing at a different level this year that

(21:59):
we've never seen before. We'll see how it plays out,
but I don't have the Cowboys losing more more than
six games. They may end up twelve and five again,
but I think right now eleven and six, they win
the division, they go into the playoffs again, and then
we'll see what happens. Well, there's plenty of time for
me to raise the blood pressure talking about Cowboys in playoffs.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
But playoffs, but you know.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
We'll look at all that and we'll see. We'll see
eleven and six.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Is what I got.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
I mean, I'm not I'm not right there with you, man.
I'm more like ten wins, maybe eleven. But I cain,
Like I said, we haven't seen what this new defensive
coordinator is gonna do. We haven't seen how he's gonna
put the players in a position to stop these teams.
The good and the bad of this conference is.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
They every year, man, right, every year.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
There's always like a different team that just that just
tells you how competitive it is. And you know how
you said earlier, the team that doesn't have a Cowboys
jersey is your most hated team. But I knew you
were going to say with Philly because I am, because
I'm right there with you. But yeah, for me, let's
just see, man, let's just let's just throw those chips
out there. And what I hate, and this is what

(23:16):
I hate every damn year, is those games right around Thanksgiving.
There are too many games that are too compacked and
too close.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
And I get it, that's the quote unquote tradition, but.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
I think it's a shitty tradition to have so many
games so close to.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Each other, and it just kind of.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
I think it it demoralizes the team because it's too
much to do. No other no other teams do that,
No other teams have to play on Thanksgiving, you know.
Every year, it's just it drives me crazy, dude. And
I think that the fact that Jerry Jones there should
be There should be two by weeks. And I said
it last year and I'll say it again, there should

(23:56):
be two bye weeks because now you're adding more games.
You know, it's just it gets more and more difficult.
It's too much stress on the body. It's too much
to ask of these guys, and and they all they
care about.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Is the money. And I get it, but man, it's.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Just it's just too taxing. Man, it's too taxing. Then
you come back and then you got to play. Uh,
it's just those those three games right around Thanksgiving, before
and after Thanksgiving always kill me, you know, because it's
just it's just too many games.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Last question, God.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Last last question is kind of just when where what
play of the of the greatest game that you've ever
watched that I guess the last game that you watched
that was just the pinnacle of what. Okay, man, that's
my team, that's the team that why, that's why I

(24:55):
cheer for you. That that this game that played made
this this, This quarterback played his ass off, this, this
receiver plays his ass off.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
This, the team the offensive? Whatever?

Speaker 4 (25:07):
What game do you like recall like in your memory
that just man, that was that was an awesome game.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Well, you're gonna find it crazy that I'm gonna give
you this answer, But the answer is the catch. I
guess I was about ten years old when that game happened, man,
And uh, I mean I can remember. I can remember
being in my living room watching that game with my dad,
and you know, the back and forth of that game

(25:37):
and the emotions that that he was displaying, you know,
the highs and loads of the game, the back and forth.
Like I say, I just I could feel every emotion
that he was feeling watching that game play out. And
when Dwight Clark caught that pass in the back of

(25:57):
the end zone over Everson Walls. Man, I can remember
seeing him and you know we've had that same reaction,
you know, that disgust of oh, how did you let
that happen? How did he get you know, how did
he get open? How did he make that play? And
you know you felt it. I felt it in various
sports and various games that we've seen. And then to

(26:21):
watch you know, Danny White lead him down the field,
get him to the fifty. Uh. You know, had a
chance to win it with the slant, and I mean
just a fingernail tackle, a fingernail tackle of that, you know,
defender grabbing the back of Pearson's jersey and and you know,

(26:43):
causing him to lose his balance and then falling down,
you know, somewhere around the thirty or whatever. And you know,
of course the last play where they sacked Danny White
and it's over. It's over. You know, you see the disappointment,
you see the heart break, and you know, to see
Tom Landry walking off that field that they dejected because

(27:09):
you you you kind of knew. I mean, I didn't
realize that at the time, but I think I think
coach Landry realized that at the time, like this might
have been my last, my best, last chance to make
it back to the super Bowl. And you know, shortly thereafter,
the misery of the eighties became the misery of the

(27:30):
eighties for us as Cowboys fans. But I knew then,
I knew then that this was my team. I didn't
care what was happening or who else was out there.
And it didn't mean that I didn't enjoy football. I
didn't mean I didn't enjoy watching other teams. I mean,
because you know, we watched Montana and and and and
Rice for a lot of years and you know, have

(27:52):
that quarterback receiver relationship that they had that we kind
of had when we would play ball together. But it
was one of those things, man like the emotions, the heartache,
the the all of it that kind of played out
that afternoon in front of me with my dad. Uh,
that's when I knew. That's when I knew that this

(28:14):
was my team and it didn't matter, didn't matter what
it was going to be who they were playing. Uh,
they were who they were. Who are going to root
for no matter what?

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Okay, I guess my question I should have phrased it
a little bit better, like what.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Not heartbreak? But what win? Or what did the Cowboys do?
Other than like that was a struggle and a loss?

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Right?

Speaker 3 (28:39):
What about?

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah? No, I think I mean that was There's all
kinds of there's all kinds of games that that you know,
we can we can point at, dude. I mean obviously
you look at uh dorsets ninety nine yard touchdown run.
I mean that was on a Monday night. You know,
I was watching that game. I shouldn't have been out
to have gone to bed because I had school the
next day. So I got in trouble for that, but

(29:03):
it was worth it. I didn't care, you know, it
was worth it. So I mean you can look at
something like that, obviously, you can look at you know,
some of the Super Bowl wins that we got to
experience in the nineties together, how excited we were, how
we were able to bond with our friends. If there
was one, if there was one game, one moment that
really uh you know, solidified it and took it over

(29:25):
the top for me, I guess it would be that
ninety two NFC championship game in San Francisco. I mean,
if you remember, man, everybody kept talking about how the
Cowboys were a year away, you know, like they they
made it to the NFC Championship and it's like the
experts thought they should be happy with that, you know,
and everybody believed and there was there was a reason

(29:48):
for them to believe that that San Francisco was the
favorite in San Francisco was gonna win that game, you know,
because they were the best team in the NFL at
that time, and especially that season they had the best record.
That's why they had home field advantage. So you could
tell why, you know, everybody was predicting that. But again,

(30:09):
that game that game, we the best moment for me
and I love the story that Troy Aikman tells the
best moment for me for that game, other than the win,
was seeing Roger Stallbach walk out with those guys at
the fifty yard line as an honorary captain that day.

(30:33):
And you know when you see it when they show
it on TV, you know, you know, we sit there
and I know how much admiration and love you have
for Roger Stallbat To see it right there in front
of you like that, with him there at the fifty,
you're excited as a fan because you're like, man, Roger's there.
You know, that's awesome. You know he's gonna be on
the sideline or he's gonna be on the booths or whatever,

(30:54):
but he's there, so that's really cool, right. Troy Aikman
tells a story that they're coming out of the locker
room and they know that they're about to walk to
the fifty for the coin flip, and Troy looks at
him and he smiles, and Roger goes, are you ready?

(31:17):
And Troy's like yeah, you know. He goes, and I
have these nerves, you know, he goes, this is the
biggest game of my life. And he goes, so I
have these nerves and Troy goes, well, yeah, he goes,
what about you, And Roger goes, I'm trying to keep
from hyperventilating, and man, I think I might have to

(31:37):
get my ankles taped. And Troy Aikman kind of says,
he gets he likes, looks at him, and he goes,
here's a guy that's been retired for like fifteen years,
and he's talking about getting his ankles taped because he's
so hyped about the damn coin toss. He goes, here,

(32:00):
I am about to play in the biggest game in
my life. He goes, and I'm trying to keep my
heart out of my throat because I'm hyperventilating over the
fact that this is the biggest game of my life.
He goes, and Roger Staubach's ready to run through a wall,
you know, go to get his ankles taped and run
through a wall. He goes, I'd never really experienced anything
like that before. It's that type of thing that makes

(32:21):
you say, that's my quarterback, that's my team, that's that's
what it means to be a fan. And so you know,
it's it's all of those things, you know. Like I said,
you know, the heartbreak of that first one, that that
really solidified where I was going to be as a fan.
Obviously winning that game in San Francisco. What made it

(32:42):
special was that game was on my birthday that year.
I had just turned twenty one, So I believe we
may have gone out after that and partake partaken in
a few adult beverages if I remember correctly. No comment,
but uh, but you know, it was one of those
things man, that Like I said, that that game, that moment,

(33:02):
those those players, it meant a lot. It was special
and as irritating as they are, as frustrating as they are,
as much as they pissed me off, I won't root
for anybody else. It doesn't matter. I won't root for
anybody else.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, just to kind of piggyback on that catch game,
You're right, they did still have an opportunity to come back,
and a lot of people don't know that. All they
of the show is a game winning TD and Danny
White threw that pass and I thought, oh wow, they're
at the fifty.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
There was still time.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yep, it was still you know, a dance and I
will give Danny White credit.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
He was a punter. I can you remember you used to.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Punt, you know, and he kind of relished that because
it's like cool if I had a crappy series, and
I would just I'm the guy that's gonna punt, and
I could kind.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Of somewhat erase what I did poorly. And he got.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Thrust into being the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, and
I don't think he got a lot of credit. I
think he could have easily gone to any one of
those super Bowls when he got to those championships. It's
just I mean, you gotta beat Joe Montana, dude. And
that pass was a great pass. And I'm not going
to deny that. But for me, it's always going to
tie into I'm not I mean, the one that always

(34:25):
closest to now, it would be that the Cowboys Buffalo game,
that Monday night game that god, dude, I can't remember
the last time that actually cheered and jumped up and down.
And when that game was over and te O was there,
and I think I want to say Tony had like
four interceptions, two of them for like you know, pick sixes,

(34:47):
and just like everything, everything was against you, and and honestly,
the Bills were coming.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Down to score and I could see the game today.
I was sitting with my dog.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
I was sitting on the ground and Lisa went to bed,
and I'm just like, why am I watching this? Why
am I torturing myself? And then the Bills are coming
like from right to left and they literally almost just
passing the fifty yard line, and I'm thinking, this game
is over, man, Why am I watching?

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Why am I watching?

Speaker 4 (35:15):
And then he throws it. He throws a pick and
I can't remember the name of the player. I think
it's number forty one. He runs it back and I said,
oh my gods, there's a chance. There's a chance. And
they literally milked every single second and then he kicked
the game winning field goal.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Folk right, Folk kicked the winning field and they called.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
The time out and he literally had to do it again,
and then he did and then he made it, and
it was just I never felt like I said the
closest to now, Okay, this is my damn team.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
That was freaking awesome.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
That was an awesome game, and that was awesome when
the Bills thought forever in the day because they hadn't
had a Monday night game, right and like forever, because
they've been relevant ever, they still thinking they're going to
win this game. It pretty walked out of there just pissed,
like literally pissed. But for me, you're right that forty
nine er game when Harper caught that pass. But it

(36:13):
wasn't just that it was Emmitt Smith wasn't It was
a factor. Troy Aikman was a factor, and I.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Mean Kelvin Martin was Kelvin Martin was a factor, you
know what I mean. And so it was it was
a complete team win.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
Oh yeah, the defense because that was a damn good game.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Man, that was a damn good because that was, in
my opinion, that was the.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Super Bowl because whoever won that, whoever won that damn game,
was going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
You knew it.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
I knew it, right, And the only people who passed
to Harper the only people who didn't know.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
It with the damn Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Bills and man that passed with Harper and then and
that's that was.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
The greatness of Troy Aikman.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
And he he put that money, that ball right.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
On the money.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
And that and that takes guts, right, that takes guts
and that's what Jimmy Johnson.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
And that's another thing.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
He coached the team to a victory in a hostel place.
And remember how muddy it was that game.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
I can remember that all the Jersey trash.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
They were muddy sides and you're just I mean, it
was just, Okay, then, who wants this more? Because you've
already had a long season, You've already had uh, you're
you're playing one of the best teams in the league.
And and it was just that pass was right on
the money. I said, cool man, this this game is over.
And I was I got so excited. I got way

(37:47):
excited because I'm thinking, Hey, the Cowboys are going to
the super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
And then what we know the statement? We know the
statement right after the game. What does Jimmy Johnson say?

Speaker 1 (37:56):
How about them Cowboys?

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Exactly?

Speaker 4 (38:01):
And that was born born And that was freaking awesome, dude,
it was awesome, Nixino. There's people that are buying T
shirts off the three. You know, they're buying those what
do you call them knockoff shirts?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
And whatever? How about them? Call it whatever?

Speaker 4 (38:14):
And it's cheesy, but you know what, Hey, hey, it
was awesome. Dude, that to me was one of the
greatest games I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
I can neither confirm nor deny if I was involved
with a few other hooligans that were trying to knock
off a Dallas street sign downtown behind the Baptist Hospital.
Nor can I confirm nor deny whether or not I
bought one of those or seven of those knockoff t

(38:42):
shirts that were being sold at the corner of South
Samoa and Buena Vista at a certain malt house. I
can neither confirm nor deny I was there, but real
quick before we get ready to wrap this up. Man,
you know you talked about, uh, Danny White and stuff,
and I told you this yesterday. I always love Danny White.

(39:05):
I know, you know it's sad that he never had
the chance to win a Super Bowl. He never had
a chance to play on that big stage. He did
get a ring obviously in seventy seven with that team,
but he never he as a as a number one quarterback,
never had an opportunity to play on that stage. But
my favorite, my favorite Danny White moment was after a win,

(39:27):
he walked up to one of the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders
and one of the number one rule for the Dallas
Cowboy cheerleaders is do not frightened eyes with the players.
And Danny White knew that rule and he didn't care.
He walked up, he grabbed one of those cheerleaders, and
he gave her a kid. I don't even know what
game it was, dude, but there's that iconic picture, and
I know you've seen it. I've seen it. We've shared
it on Facebook multiple times. He's kissing that cheerleader there

(39:51):
on the sideline, and it's one of those things, dude,
where you just kind of sit there and you go,
that's when America was America and men were men, and
we didn't give two ships about no damn rules about
anybody saying what should be politically correct or unpolitically correct.
I want to do what I want to do because
I'm a man and I'm the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys.

(40:11):
Danny White will always have my respect for that.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Amen, dude. I like that story.

Speaker 4 (40:18):
That's fucking awesome. I didn't I don't you know. I
never knew that. Honestly, I've never seen the picture of
twenty brought that up. But Hey, that's my last question. Hey,
maybe we can we can, like you said earlier, past present,
future jersey, maybe you can get one.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Of his that that's that's one of the that's one
of the options, you know, right up there with Raphael Seption.
Uh you know, uh, right up there, right up there
with uh what was the name of that long snapper
they had for a long time. It was like he
was the guy what was his name? He played on
all the Super Bowl teams. You know, maybe I'll get

(40:53):
an offensive line maybe I'll get a Nate Newton jersey.
I mean, you never know, dude, it could be any
number of jerseys, you know. Uh, I can get a
Larry Allen. I mean, Larry Allen was pretty awesome, you know.
I mean I know, I know I wouldn't have the
foot speed to be able to run down a linebacker
on Monday Night football, you know, and catch him from
behind him and tackle him after an interception. I mean,

(41:15):
I know I couldn't do that. But you know, God
bless Larry Allen, rest his soul, because that dude was awesome.
He's an awesome football player and from the stories that
we heard, like we talked about before, man even an
even better human beings. So but yeah, dude. I mean again,
there's no team that I love more. There's no team
that pisses me off more. There's no team that you know,

(41:36):
I go to bat four and talk shit about more.
And there's certainly no team that frustrates me more than
the Dallas Cowboys. And until the day I die, dude,
I'm gonna be a lifelong fan. It don't matter. It
doesn't matter what the record is, it doesn't matter how
things are going. I mean, dude, we sat through the

(41:57):
Steve Pollore days. Okay, think about that Steve freaking Polore.
All right, so I think if I can endure that ship,
I can endure some of this other stuff. So that's
all I got, man.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Carter, Quincy Carter.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Quincy Carter was.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Better than I will say that Quincy Carter was better
than you know. But we also sat through Chadad What
is it Chad Hutchison? You know, Brandon tweeting Matt Castle. Dude,
You're you're already pissing me off and the Cowboys haven't
even started. You're already pissing me off, dude.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
So all right, man, well that's my last question unless
you got one from me. I just thought, hey, let's
just talk a little bit on the sidelines and the
fringe of the whatever before we get into the meaning
bones of the of the season and the team. But
I'm thankful that, hey man, you and I are still alive. Yeah, yeah,

(42:58):
lifelong friends, beers.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
We're gonna watch our team.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
We're gonna have our protein and our snack and our
beer come game day.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
I'm just gonna tell you, like this, dude, all Right,
I've sat at tables with queens and kings, and I've
sat in Alley's eating pork and beans. So you can
figure that out. If you can figure that out, you're
a hell of a guy. I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
All that means is the high exactly and exactly.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
All that means is whether it's the highsest of highs
or the lowest of lows. The Cowboys are our team
and we're gonna be there to support them.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
So.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
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Speaker 1 (43:43):
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