June 18, 2025 • 34 mins
On this episode of FIRE, hoast Shawn McHugh covers the latest news on the Israel Iran conflict and Ted cruz prooves his ignorance while vocally supporting United States involvement in the Iran conflict.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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This is the Fire Podcast. So today we are talking
more about the Iran conflict, Trump and strike Iran as
soon as tomorrow. Plus Tucker Carlson just freshes Ted Cruise
(00:22):
and proves that he's just a major idiot. We'll get
to all that and more. Stay with us on the
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Fine on its.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Side by Tom fell Yawn. Welcome back to the Fire Podcast.
So there have been a lot of developments. I know,
I keep coming back to this whole Israel Iran thing.
It's kind of repetitive, but there's just so much news
(01:03):
in it. There could just be so many deadly consequences
if Trump does not do what needs to be done.
I so far do not agree with what he's doing
on foreign policy with Iran. I think he's been too
nice to other countries. What we need to do is basically,
(01:24):
stop funding Ukraine, stop funding Israel, and stop supporting them
and start supporting Americans first. That's what we voted for.
That's what we worked so hard to get Trump elected,
all of us, I mean voting telling friends even with
us starting the podcast, shit. It's just frustrating when you
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vote for something and you don't get it. I mean,
there have been a lot of good things with the
with the Trump administration, but I wish you would cut
off the globalist Benjamin Nett and Yahoo immediately, along with
the COCAD dictator Vladimir Zelenski, even even Macrone. I agree
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with Macrone on this. I don't like Macron. Macone, right,
and that's how that's how you pronounce it, right, but
massive globalists. But he's right on this. He's saying the
NATO countries should help Israel, but at the same time
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should not go into Iran. Basically, I don't have the
exact quote in front of me, but that's basically what
he said, and I agree with him and President Trump
should not hasten to attack Iran. Iran because they I mean,
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if Iran attacks US, then all NATO countries are going
to get involved. Not saying it's I just don't want
an entire world war. That's what it leads to. It
leads to a world war because if all the NATO
country countries join in, Russia is probably going to join in,
China might join in. China is closer to attacking Taiwan
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than ever. But we can't have this. We can't start
a world war. We have to avoid World War three
at all costs. I mean not saying that if someone's
killing our troops and attacking us that we shouldn't fight back.
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But this isn't self defense. This is going on the
offense for Israel. Israel started this war. They struck at Iran.
Iran first, So what's the deal? Why are we still
defending them? Trump told them not to strike, Trump told
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them repeatedly not to do it, that we wanted to
get a deal, and NTN Yahoo just said, Oh, I'm
just gonna do whatever the fuck I want. And so
he goes in bombs Iran and expects us to go
and fucking come in and defend him. Hell no, hell no,
you think Americans want to die for your fucking shit,
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for your wars? I mean, hell, if we do go
into this war, I'm gonna make some money off of it, though.
I'm investing in some defense contractors pretty soon, because I
know they'll be blowing up because we're gonna spend trillions
on this war. They're gonna make a whole bunch of money.
And I suggest everybody get a piece of the pie.
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Because if we're gonna send our fucking troops to war,
at least go in put some of your money into
defense contractors because they will make a lot of money.
And that's the only way that any American profits from war.
And it's still not fucking worth it because we're gonna
send eighteen year olds, nineteen year olds to go and
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defend fucking Israel. Hell no, Israel has been trying to
get us into this war for twenty fucking years. More
than that. I mean, are we really supposed to believe
that the people who funded Hamas? I mean, Netyahuu up
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to about a couple of years ago was still funding Hamas.
He started Hamas and allowed them to take power. So
do you think that we should defend those people? Do
you think they are the people who are holier than now? Like,
call me an anti Semi, called me anti Jew, call
me Hitler, call me Kanye, whatever the fuck you want
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to call me, But I'm not gonna stand for this crap.
I voted for America first. I voted for an end
of pointless foreign wars, and that's what I want to get.
And Trump, I have a feeling he's gonna let us down.
I think that they're gonna strike at Iran as soon
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as Thursday. He warned the residents of Tehran and different
cities that you know, they're warned to get away from Tyranne.
So now that there now there's a whole humongous traffic
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gem because Trump has people panicked. I was wondering, maybe
is he warning of a strike that Israel is going
to do, But probably not. It's looking like Trump is
going to the war room. Trump is speaking with various
world leaders, but he's not having Iran come to the table,
which probably means that we are going to get involved
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in this war, same fucking thing that we went into
Iraq for. And Trump criticized Bush and others for getting
us into that war, and he was right about that.
So how is he going to make this same fucking
mistake again. If you want to destroy their nuclear arsenal, fine,
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give Israel the weapons to do it, but don't We
should not get directly involved. And I don't. I don't
even think that we should defend Israel, to be honest.
I mean, they are a country who hates us, and
I wanted to kind of make a point too, Like
Iran does have nuclear weapons, so does Israel. Keep in mind,
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they don't show that, they don't say that publicly, but
they do. So the criteria that we're going by to
bomb Iran and destroy their nuclear facilities is that they
hate us and they're going to get a nuclear weapon.
They already have a nuclear weapon. So China hates us
and has nuclear weapons, So why don't we just go
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in and invade China and kill everybody there so that
they can go and kill everybody over here. That sounds
like a wonderful plan. I've that's what I voted for.
I just want to kill everybody and watch them die
and watch fucking radiation poisoning destroy the people I love.
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That's exactly what I voted for. So we're basing this
criteria of whether or not we're going.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Into war.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Based on those two things. And China has those two
things in common with Iran, So it's it's being hypocritical.
And then, and honestly, I'm I'm not saying to go
attack China. I'm being fucking sarcastic. But shit, we have
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to understand that we are making the same mistake. It's
gonna cost more money and Benjamin. Yet Nen Yahoo is
going to be laughing his way to the fucking bank
because I'm sure he put a bunch of money into
defense contractors. Because say what you want about Nen Yahoo,
he's a fucking prick. He's pure evil, but he is
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not dumb. He is pretty smart, and he will know
that the defense contractors will get rich off of this crap.
So put your money into defense contractors. This is not
insider trading. I don't have any information that the dumbest
person in economics would. No, I'm not I'm an economics major,
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I'm not nothing. But go invest into some fucking defense contractors.
If we end up getting into this war with Iran.
I'm sure they're already up pretty big today. Shit, I
want to get to our clip of Tucker Carlson just
basically humiliating Ted Cruz. I'm gonna show quite a lot
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of that and give some commentary on it. I just
think it's important.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
So let's get to the clip.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Here it is.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Can you see I mean I again, once again, I
couldn't agree with you more. But can you feel the
frustration of people, including your voters? You know, every American
at the emphasis on foreign countries in the threat we
supposedly face a lot which is fake obviously over over
the kind of slowly unfolding tragedy of what's happening to
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our country. The dollar spent the aid packages Ukraine to
pay the retirement of civil servants in the country that
we have nothing.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
To do with.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
The endless support for Israel very expensive when people are
literally buying groceries on credit in the United States. Can
you feel like nothing against Ukraine or Israel?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Another right, let's stop. You said the support for Israel
very expensive. How much support do we give to Israel?
Will you tell me you vote for it? It's about
three million of years the military systems. Was that the
only assistance? Yeah, we just have military asistants. Israel does
not have additional assistance. There's there's an mau A memorandum.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Biden just voted in twenty twenty four. He signed the
bill where Congress funded like what, twenty six billion dollars
to Israel. They Congress shut themselves up overnight in the
chambers and they were going to support a fourteen billion
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dollar aid package, but instead overnight became twenty six billion.
Just for Ted Cruz's information, But I'm sure he doesn't
watch real news like this. He watches Fox News and
a bunch of crap.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Of understanding. And it's three billion a year.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So what is it costing the support of the bombing
campaign to protect Israel right now?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
From Iron?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So I don't know right now, but I'll tell you this.
Let's go back to the touchdown on foreign policy. American interest.
Our support, our military support for Israel is massively in
America's national security and benefits us enormously well.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Before we can just before we can make independent judgments
about whether or not that's true, and I'm certainly open
to it, I think we need to know what it costs.
So what's the annual cost of defending Israel? You know,
three billion a year? That would the aid, But I
mean you at the cost of the weapons for.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
He does he doesn't even fucking know. He votes for it,
but he doesn't fucking know. That's insane. These congress people
never ever read the bills, never, and sometimes they don't
have time to. But you should be reading that shit, man, Like,
just put that shit in fucking groc and say, are
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there any bad components to this bill that a Republican,
that a Republican would potentially be against or should know about,
and I'm sure it could spin out a good answer
and give you that information. Ted lyon Cruise, I don't
think he's a liar. I just think he's dumb. I
think I just think Ted Cruz is incredibly dumb. And
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I'm gonna play quite a lot of this interview just
to kind of show you how dummy is.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Let's get back to it.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
For example, the cost of US personnel, they're the cost
of moving ships to the region, which we're doing right now,
the cost of moving tankers, all of that.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Do we know what the cost is?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
So look the last week, I don't know, and there's
some lag when the administration on the constitution, the Commander
in chief has control of the art forces, and so
President Trump has made some decision that will know the
cost over time, But I don't know the last week.
That's I don't have visibility on that. The annual cost
is three billion, that's it's a ten year memorandum of understanding,
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and that's that's the principal driver of the cost that.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Should be eliminated. That's thirty billion dollars over ten years.
You don't think that could help some fucking homeless veterans
in need or something like that. That could go to
someone other than Benjamin net and Yaho, the fucking globalists
who funded Hamas. You don't think that could be spent
in any better way. You don't think that we could
do wonders with that money for the American people. But anyway,
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I'll get.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Back to it.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
But let me make a point. We get massive benefits
from Israel. Israel shares the Masade is one of the
best intelligent sources on the planet. The enemies of Israel,
the people who hate Israel, they all hate us. It's
almost a perfect overlap. And so if we tried to recreate,
if we're just trying to defend America, we tried to
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recreate the national.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Say, you guys say, this shit happened in the hood,
could you picture like I could picture like a meme
of uh, this shit happened in the happening in the hood.
You find out you're somebody who hates you just got
an AK forty seven, and you're like, man, I need
to wipe these motherfuckers off the mat. Man, these niggas
be hating on me. Could you imagine like that that
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shit in the hood. That'd be awesome. I want somebody
to make a fucking mema out of it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
That's that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Security benefits of our alliance with Israel it would cost
I don't know, thirty billion, three hundred billion soon.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So can you elaborate again?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I'm going into this as someone who's always liked Israel
and still does, but I also think at this point,
given where we are, it's fair to ask rational questions
about what the benefits are good.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
So does Massage share all of this intelligence with us?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Probably not, but they share a lot. We don't share
all of our intelligence with them, but we share a lot.
It's a close a lot. They spied domestically the United States, Oh,
they probably do, and we do as well. And friends
and allies spy on each other. And I assume why
I assume all of our allies spy on us. That's
okay with you.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
One of the things about being a conservative is that
you're not naive and utopian. You don't think humans are
all part of the reason socialism doesn't.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So he's admitting that we're funding a country that spies
on us. I'm sure Ukraine spies on US, So why
are we funding these people? Why are we funding NATO?
Fuck that shit, Let's get out of NATO. I admit
I'm an isolationist. I mean I don't support the terrorists.
I don't support the Muslims or the Israeli government. That
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doesn't mean that I don't like Muslims or I don't
like Jews.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I like America. I like all these people individually. I
don't like their governments, but I like America more than
I like any of these people. And that's not a problem.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Work is is the mantra from each according to his abilities,
to each according to his needs doesn't work. As a conservative,
I assume people act in their rational self interest.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
To pay people to spy on you.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
It's conservative to recognize that human beings act to their
own self interests. And every one of our friends spies
on us, and I'm not Do you like it? That's
my question. I'm not asking whether they have motive to
do it. Of course they do.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I understand that, and I and by the way, I'm
not mad at that. And you're an American lawmaker, so
I just want to I want to.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Know your attitude.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
You said that you're guiding principle, in fact, the only principle,
the only criterion. I said, guiding the overwhelming. I wouldn't
say only is it an America's interest? Is it an
America's interest for Israel to spy on us, including on
the president?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
It is an America's interest to be closely allied with
Israel because we get huge benefits for it. And you
want to want to see the clearerites.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But I just want to stop on the spine for
a second.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That it takes place, as you know, and including on
the President of the United States and several precedents, and
I just want to know if that's okay, and why
is it okay? Wouldn't an American lawmaker say to a
client state, you're not allowed to spy on us. I'm sorry,
I know why you want to. I'm not mad at you,
but you're not allowed to. Sure, and I don't care
for it. I don't want to be spot on by you.
Is that it's kind of weird not to say that,
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But you don't seem able to say that.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Sure, I would say, don't spy on us. They're going
to any way.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And by the way, the Brits are the Canadians are like,
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Why not for that at all? I think it's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
But we don't actually pay their you know, we're not
their most meaningful sponsor.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We're not paying for the operations. I got to say.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
And this is it's weird we're talking about isolation.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Is the obsession with Israel? Why is Israel? I don't
think I'm obsessed with this, okay, but I think a
lot of people are.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
And like the question, Israel spies on us, well, so
does every other country.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Why are you mad at Israel? Yes?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Oh no, no, I'm I'm hardly the one who's I've never
taken money from the Israel lobby?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Have you taken money from the Israeli pack? So Apak
raises a lot of money for me, but it's actually
a missomer because the people who raise money are individual.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So Apak has raised five hundred and sixty three thousand
dollars to Ted for Ted Cruz, just so everybody knows.
I mean, I didn't know our politicians were that cheap.
To be honest, I mean I might go win the
watter in by myself a couple of politicians and tell
them to be actually fucking America first before I pop
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them in the face. Shit.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
So it's not the pack itself, but their individual memories
in the American Israeli uh friendship foreign lobby.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
No, it's an American lobby.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
It's the A pack stands for the America Israeli political action.
What is it lobby for? So, to be honest, not
a whole lot effectively. Listen, I came into to Congress
thirteen years ago with the stated intention of being the
leading defender of Israel in the United States Senate. That
worked every day to do that. A pack A lot
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of times, APAC, I wish were much more effective.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Like there are a swamp of terrified of a pack
and APAC.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I'm not terrified of a pack at all. I'm you're
the one who seems little uncomfortable. I'm asking, I'm not
uncomfortable all.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Nope, not uncomfortable at Yeah. This guy is obviously obviously
bribed by the Israeli Israeli government, Israel lobby, defense contractors.
So no better than Nicky Hayley. So I will I
mean Ted Cruz might be great on the border. Ted
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Cruz might be great on crime, but he is awful
God awful on foreign policy. He is horrible. I mean,
at least Trump can negotiate, he was. Ted Cruise will
just stumble around and fucking suck somebody's dick and kiss
their ass. That's how he works. He bends the knee,
he rolls over. He is a pushover. He is a coward,
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and first and foremost, he's dumb. All right, That's the
main theme of this segment is that Ted Cruise is
just fucking dumb.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I'm just asking what APAC does.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
My understanding, having normal will tell you that lobbies on
behalf of the Israeli government.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It does.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
When was the last time APAC took a position that
deviated from Prime Minister Nyaho? All the time?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
One?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Okay, let me go back and get a little history.
If you want to do a deep dive on, I don't.
I want to do a shallow dive to get no, no, no,
I want to get to the core question.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
A pack is lobbying for a foreign government, and I don't.
It's not lobbying for the United States.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
It is lobbying for a strong US Israeli relationship.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Okay, and so it's not has nothing to do with
foreign government.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Well, the only thing that APAK has advocated for is
America defending and funding Israel. So basically that's well being
for the entire Israeli government. So dead Cruise is lying
or is wrong. Both are equally disappointing outcomes.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
It wants America and Israel to be closely alied, okay,
but it's lobbying on behalf of the interests of another.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So that's not true at all, And it's not true.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
No, how much contact do you think APAC leaders have
for the government of Israel, No idea, I imagine some.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I think the government of Israel is often frustrated with apacs.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Nearly strong enough? Do you think there's any coordination?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
But our defense of Israel is not strong You hear that,
guys Ted Cruz. Doesn't they get strong enough? Ted Cruz
doesn't think we kissed ned Yah?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Who's asked enough?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Can you believe it?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Between the government of Israel and APEK, do they talk? Sure?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
If you're lobbying for more US Mexico trade, would you
talk to people in the US and Mexico and the
government sure?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Like?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Like if so, I'm not mad about that. There are
million countries that lobby Washington. I like a lot of
those countries, including the Street, but Apecker Americans. But there
are tons of Americans who lobby on behalf of foreign governments.
I know them, I'm related to some of them. I
know how it works. I'm from here. So my question
is not is it outrageous that foreign governments lobby the
United States? They all do, okay, including Israel. My only
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question is why don't we admit that is what's happening.
You're denying it, but it's true. Well, why aren't they
registered as a foreign lobby because they're not.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
They're not a foreign lobby. No, they're not.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And this is that there's a fever swamp. Look, it's
not a fever swamp. These are very reasonable questions. And
you've accused me of being obsessed with his sure, which
I'm not. I actually haven't. I've seen it, fever about it,
which I'm not at all. I'm just I find it.
It's a very tender spot when you ask it, and
I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
So Tucker, all right, let's go back. I was first
elected the Senate in twenty twelve. I came in.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
He said that, he said that twice pretty much, so
he just keeps repeating himself, he's nervous anyway, God.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
And I actually saw Apac be badly wounded in the
way they never came back from. And the second term
is when Obama did the Iran nuclear deal, and the
Iran nuclear deal I think was catastrophic, and Apak went
all in lobbying against you, and they failed. And I
was the leading opponent of the randew Oh, I know
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they definitely failed. Yes, they failed. And what happened The
Obama White House told every Democrat when I got here,
there used to be real bipartisans or for Israel. That
has largely disappeared. And it's the Obama Nuclear deal that
caused it.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
What do you mean, what do you mean Democrats? I
mean Joe Biden funded Israel. He's supported Israel. So let
me get this straight. Biden, who sent them twenty six
billion dollars, didn't send them enough. We're being ungrateful and
anti Semites. We're being ungrateful, and we need to send
Israel more money. Yeah, this guy is definitely bought and
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paid for for.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Sure, because the Obama White House told every Democrat pick
you either stand with Israel or you're a Democrat, and
you stand with the Obama White House and almost every
single Democrat member of Congress said I'm a Democrat first,
to hell with Israel.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And then I watched as.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
A pack every one of those Democrats got reelected and
APEC did nothing about it, and it dramatically reduced Apak's influence.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I watched it happen, and by the way.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I told Apak, I said, look, the analogy of the
NRA was supporting a bunch of politicians and cared about
the Second Amendment. And you had politicians that vote to
confiscate people's guns. And the NRA turned around and raised
money for the people who voted to confiscate guns. You
know what, no one would ever care what they said. Again, Shoe,
you're making the case that Apak.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Is not as powerful as people say this, and I
completely agree with I've watched that, and I'm not well.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It turned John Fetterman into the most staunch Israel supporter
in the world. Actually, there were a few anti Israel Democrats,
particularly in the Squad, who were primaried and lost and
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because of the Israel lobby. So Ted Cruz is wrong.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I'm not making the case that APAC is all powerful
and they're running everything and putting Floord in the water.
I'm not making the case at all because it's not true.
I'm only trying to get to the question what a
peck is that. I don't think you're being straightforward about it.
Maypac is lobbying on behalf of the interests of a
foreign country and they're not registered, and you're saying, no,
that's not true. You're saying that they don't coordinate with
the Israeli government.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I coordinate that they do. They talk with them. I
don't know what they do. I can Why don't you care?
Isn't it meaningful if a foreign government? Yeah, I talk
with Israel a the time, all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But the law is a lot of people can prosecut
under this law that if you are lobbying on behalf
of foreign government, you must register.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
That's it. It's really simple. And I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
If I'm working for Malaysia, Qatar or Belgium and I'm
working on behalf of its government's interests through a group
of Americans who are representing the friendship between those two nations,
I have to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act,
and if.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I don't, I can go to jail. And people have
gone to jail and people I know.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
So I don't understand why we don't just be honest
and say they're lobbying on behalf of foreign government.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
They're coordating with the government. You know that that's true.
That is not only not true, that is false. They're
not cornetic.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That is not only not true, but it's false. Yeah,
is such a world. Let's get to a little bit.
Let's see if it gets a little bit more heated.
I'm gonna go forward just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I don't think they're very effective. I do think we
should by the way America is, you're.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Willing to take that risk.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I think we should protect the president and we should
take out our enemies. Israel is doing that right now.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
But aren't they Why would we.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Try question for regime change. That's a pretty good example
of why I for regime change. Okay, so you're saying
we should.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Just Iran is not trying. Iran is not trying to
assassinate President Trump. Someone whispered that into his ear, and
he's got bad people around him. The New World Order,
the glove lists are trying to kill President Trump. It's
not fucking Iran. It's not Iranian agents. Come on, I mean, shit,
(29:07):
is Ted Cruz paid to look the other way and
be just an idiot? Shit?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Just go in and take out the government of Rouma.
Would we outsource it to Israel? If there's an a
murder of president?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay? You s not like the islationist.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
What I'm saying on any military judgment is there needs
to be a cost benefit analysis of what are the
risks versus what are the what are the benefits? In
this instance, I think it is enormously in America's interest
to do what Israel is doing right now. Take out Iran,
see your military leadership, and take out their nuclear capacity.
That is benefiting America, and it is a good risk reward.
(29:44):
I would oppose invading Iran and putting boots on the
ground to topple the government. If the risk got severe enough,
I would support that, but I think the relative risk
is not severe enough to justify that step at this time.
I'm what I would absolutely oppose under any circumstances is
(30:05):
invading Iran and then staying and trying to turn them
into a democracy. And part of where Iraq really went
off off the rails is not only did we topple
someone who was fighting radical Islamic terris who's a bad guy.
But then we tried the vision of interventionists. It actually
overlaps with the vision of a lot of democrats. Let's
go promote democracy in the world.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And it is our military's job to kill the bad.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Guys to defend America. It's not their job to defend
international norms. It's not their job. So I have zero
desire for the US military to turn Iran into Switzerland. Look,
would it be nice if they suddenly became Switzerland. Sure,
if I could wave a magic wand great, but I'm
not going to send your kids or my kids to
be in front of guns to go make that happen.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well, bless you for that. I think that's it. That
is the last thing.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I do agree with that. I do agree with that,
But still too much, too much is Israeli influence.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Lesson that I learned from Rock I promoted that war. Apparently,
unlike you, I was dumber, And I think you just
articulated the main lesson of it, which is it's hard
to do that and we're not good at it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
But I will, and so we are agreeing on that.
I will say as quialmently agreeing as.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
A corollary, that doesn't mean that that horrible able dictators
are okay. And going back to Reagan and the Cold War,
we have lots of weapons. I am happy to highlight
the brutality, the oppression, the human rights abuses of regimes,
even though I don't want to invade them, because I
think the bully pulpit of American leadership is really powerful.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And and so I think I think Tucker Carlson really
should have asked Ted Cruz, hey, do you I mean,
China fits the criteria that you're putting Iran in. So
should we go and invade China? Should we go launch
nukes at them? I wonder what his answer would be.
It turns out that Ted Cruise is really just a
(32:04):
fucking warhawk. Man. I'm disappointed. I thought he might turn
out to be America first, but overall I kind of expected.
I kind of researched into Ted Cruz and found out
that he's funded primarily by APAK. So it's time to
(32:28):
get him out. I mean, I think we have the
capability to get someone a lot better from Texas, maybe
Ken Paxton or something like that. We could have a
lot better from Texas. I mean, shit, we've got a
lot of good rednecks who would support America first. And
(32:51):
instead of taking your guns and weapons to Iran, why
don't we take him to the border and get him,
get all these legal aliens out. Why don't we do that?
Turns out it doesn't make us as much money. Turns
out defense contractors really really like it when we send
our sons and daughters to a fucking foreign war that
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we don't fucking care about. That's some bullshit. I'm again,
I don't support the terrorists. I don't support Israel though, either,
So call me an anti semi if you want. I
know deep down that I'm not against Jews. I'm against
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foreign wars that's gonna that are gonna kill our youngest generation.
And they have a lot more of a purpose in
life than going in and dying for Israel. So I say,
to hell with Israel, to hell with Israel, and to
hell with Ukraine too. I'm damn tired of seeing all
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Fine on its.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Side by Tom fell Yawn. Welcome back to the Fire Podcast.
So there have been a lot of developments. I know,
I keep coming back to this whole Israel Iran thing.
It's kind of repetitive, but there's just so much news
(01:03):
in it. There could just be so many deadly consequences
if Trump does not do what needs to be done.
I so far do not agree with what he's doing
on foreign policy with Iran. I think he's been too
nice to other countries. What we need to do is basically,
(01:24):
stop funding Ukraine, stop funding Israel, and stop supporting them
and start supporting Americans first. That's what we voted for.
That's what we worked so hard to get Trump elected,
all of us, I mean voting telling friends even with
us starting the podcast, shit. It's just frustrating when you
(01:53):
vote for something and you don't get it. I mean,
there have been a lot of good things with the
with the Trump administration, but I wish you would cut
off the globalist Benjamin Nett and Yahoo immediately, along with
the COCAD dictator Vladimir Zelenski, even even Macrone. I agree
(02:16):
with Macrone on this. I don't like Macron. Macone, right,
and that's how that's how you pronounce it, right, but
massive globalists. But he's right on this. He's saying the
NATO countries should help Israel, but at the same time
(02:41):
should not go into Iran. Basically, I don't have the
exact quote in front of me, but that's basically what
he said, and I agree with him and President Trump
should not hasten to attack Iran. Iran because they I mean,
(03:05):
if Iran attacks US, then all NATO countries are going
to get involved. Not saying it's I just don't want
an entire world war. That's what it leads to. It
leads to a world war because if all the NATO
country countries join in, Russia is probably going to join in,
China might join in. China is closer to attacking Taiwan
(03:29):
than ever. But we can't have this. We can't start
a world war. We have to avoid World War three
at all costs. I mean not saying that if someone's
killing our troops and attacking us that we shouldn't fight back.
(03:53):
But this isn't self defense. This is going on the
offense for Israel. Israel started this war. They struck at Iran.
Iran first, So what's the deal? Why are we still
defending them? Trump told them not to strike, Trump told
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them repeatedly not to do it, that we wanted to
get a deal, and NTN Yahoo just said, Oh, I'm
just gonna do whatever the fuck I want. And so
he goes in bombs Iran and expects us to go
and fucking come in and defend him. Hell no, hell no,
you think Americans want to die for your fucking shit,
(04:35):
for your wars? I mean, hell, if we do go
into this war, I'm gonna make some money off of it, though.
I'm investing in some defense contractors pretty soon, because I
know they'll be blowing up because we're gonna spend trillions
on this war. They're gonna make a whole bunch of money.
And I suggest everybody get a piece of the pie.
(04:57):
Because if we're gonna send our fucking troops to war,
at least go in put some of your money into
defense contractors because they will make a lot of money.
And that's the only way that any American profits from war.
And it's still not fucking worth it because we're gonna
send eighteen year olds, nineteen year olds to go and
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defend fucking Israel. Hell no, Israel has been trying to
get us into this war for twenty fucking years. More
than that. I mean, are we really supposed to believe
that the people who funded Hamas? I mean, Netyahuu up
(05:43):
to about a couple of years ago was still funding Hamas.
He started Hamas and allowed them to take power. So
do you think that we should defend those people? Do
you think they are the people who are holier than now? Like,
call me an anti Semi, called me anti Jew, call
me Hitler, call me Kanye, whatever the fuck you want
(06:05):
to call me, But I'm not gonna stand for this crap.
I voted for America first. I voted for an end
of pointless foreign wars, and that's what I want to get.
And Trump, I have a feeling he's gonna let us down.
I think that they're gonna strike at Iran as soon
(06:26):
as Thursday. He warned the residents of Tehran and different
cities that you know, they're warned to get away from Tyranne.
So now that there now there's a whole humongous traffic
(06:47):
gem because Trump has people panicked. I was wondering, maybe
is he warning of a strike that Israel is going
to do, But probably not. It's looking like Trump is
going to the war room. Trump is speaking with various
world leaders, but he's not having Iran come to the table,
which probably means that we are going to get involved
(07:09):
in this war, same fucking thing that we went into
Iraq for. And Trump criticized Bush and others for getting
us into that war, and he was right about that.
So how is he going to make this same fucking
mistake again. If you want to destroy their nuclear arsenal, fine,
(07:33):
give Israel the weapons to do it, but don't We
should not get directly involved. And I don't. I don't
even think that we should defend Israel, to be honest.
I mean, they are a country who hates us, and
I wanted to kind of make a point too, Like
Iran does have nuclear weapons, so does Israel. Keep in mind,
(07:56):
they don't show that, they don't say that publicly, but
they do. So the criteria that we're going by to
bomb Iran and destroy their nuclear facilities is that they
hate us and they're going to get a nuclear weapon.
They already have a nuclear weapon. So China hates us
and has nuclear weapons, So why don't we just go
(08:18):
in and invade China and kill everybody there so that
they can go and kill everybody over here. That sounds
like a wonderful plan. I've that's what I voted for.
I just want to kill everybody and watch them die
and watch fucking radiation poisoning destroy the people I love.
(08:39):
That's exactly what I voted for. So we're basing this
criteria of whether or not we're going.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Into war.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Based on those two things. And China has those two
things in common with Iran, So it's it's being hypocritical.
And then, and honestly, I'm I'm not saying to go
attack China. I'm being fucking sarcastic. But shit, we have
(09:14):
to understand that we are making the same mistake. It's
gonna cost more money and Benjamin. Yet Nen Yahoo is
going to be laughing his way to the fucking bank
because I'm sure he put a bunch of money into
defense contractors. Because say what you want about Nen Yahoo,
he's a fucking prick. He's pure evil, but he is
(09:39):
not dumb. He is pretty smart, and he will know
that the defense contractors will get rich off of this crap.
So put your money into defense contractors. This is not
insider trading. I don't have any information that the dumbest
person in economics would. No, I'm not I'm an economics major,
(10:03):
I'm not nothing. But go invest into some fucking defense contractors.
If we end up getting into this war with Iran.
I'm sure they're already up pretty big today. Shit, I
want to get to our clip of Tucker Carlson just
basically humiliating Ted Cruz. I'm gonna show quite a lot
(10:26):
of that and give some commentary on it. I just
think it's important.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
So let's get to the clip.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Here it is.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Can you see I mean I again, once again, I
couldn't agree with you more. But can you feel the
frustration of people, including your voters? You know, every American
at the emphasis on foreign countries in the threat we
supposedly face a lot which is fake obviously over over
the kind of slowly unfolding tragedy of what's happening to
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our country. The dollar spent the aid packages Ukraine to
pay the retirement of civil servants in the country that
we have nothing.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
To do with.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
The endless support for Israel very expensive when people are
literally buying groceries on credit in the United States. Can
you feel like nothing against Ukraine or Israel?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Another right, let's stop. You said the support for Israel
very expensive. How much support do we give to Israel?
Will you tell me you vote for it? It's about
three million of years the military systems. Was that the
only assistance? Yeah, we just have military asistants. Israel does
not have additional assistance. There's there's an mau A memorandum.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Biden just voted in twenty twenty four. He signed the
bill where Congress funded like what, twenty six billion dollars
to Israel. They Congress shut themselves up overnight in the
chambers and they were going to support a fourteen billion
(11:57):
dollar aid package, but instead overnight became twenty six billion.
Just for Ted Cruz's information, But I'm sure he doesn't
watch real news like this. He watches Fox News and
a bunch of crap.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Of understanding. And it's three billion a year.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So what is it costing the support of the bombing
campaign to protect Israel right now?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
From Iron?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So I don't know right now, but I'll tell you this.
Let's go back to the touchdown on foreign policy. American interest.
Our support, our military support for Israel is massively in
America's national security and benefits us enormously well.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Before we can just before we can make independent judgments
about whether or not that's true, and I'm certainly open
to it, I think we need to know what it costs.
So what's the annual cost of defending Israel? You know,
three billion a year? That would the aid, But I
mean you at the cost of the weapons for.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
He does he doesn't even fucking know. He votes for it,
but he doesn't fucking know. That's insane. These congress people
never ever read the bills, never, and sometimes they don't
have time to. But you should be reading that shit, man, Like,
just put that shit in fucking groc and say, are
(13:13):
there any bad components to this bill that a Republican,
that a Republican would potentially be against or should know about,
and I'm sure it could spin out a good answer
and give you that information. Ted lyon Cruise, I don't
think he's a liar. I just think he's dumb. I
think I just think Ted Cruz is incredibly dumb. And
(13:35):
I'm gonna play quite a lot of this interview just
to kind of show you how dummy is.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Let's get back to it.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
For example, the cost of US personnel, they're the cost
of moving ships to the region, which we're doing right now,
the cost of moving tankers, all of that.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Do we know what the cost is?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
So look the last week, I don't know, and there's
some lag when the administration on the constitution, the Commander
in chief has control of the art forces, and so
President Trump has made some decision that will know the
cost over time, But I don't know the last week.
That's I don't have visibility on that. The annual cost
is three billion, that's it's a ten year memorandum of understanding,
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and that's that's the principal driver of the cost that.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Should be eliminated. That's thirty billion dollars over ten years.
You don't think that could help some fucking homeless veterans
in need or something like that. That could go to
someone other than Benjamin net and Yaho, the fucking globalists
who funded Hamas. You don't think that could be spent
in any better way. You don't think that we could
do wonders with that money for the American people. But anyway,
(14:40):
I'll get.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Back to it.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
But let me make a point. We get massive benefits
from Israel. Israel shares the Masade is one of the
best intelligent sources on the planet. The enemies of Israel,
the people who hate Israel, they all hate us. It's
almost a perfect overlap. And so if we tried to recreate,
if we're just trying to defend America, we tried to
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recreate the national.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Say, you guys say, this shit happened in the hood,
could you picture like I could picture like a meme
of uh, this shit happened in the happening in the hood.
You find out you're somebody who hates you just got
an AK forty seven, and you're like, man, I need
to wipe these motherfuckers off the mat. Man, these niggas
be hating on me. Could you imagine like that that
(15:27):
shit in the hood. That'd be awesome. I want somebody
to make a fucking mema out of it.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
That's that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Security benefits of our alliance with Israel it would cost
I don't know, thirty billion, three hundred billion soon.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So can you elaborate again?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I'm going into this as someone who's always liked Israel
and still does, but I also think at this point,
given where we are, it's fair to ask rational questions
about what the benefits are good.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
So does Massage share all of this intelligence with us?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Probably not, but they share a lot. We don't share
all of our intelligence with them, but we share a lot.
It's a close a lot. They spied domestically the United States, Oh,
they probably do, and we do as well. And friends
and allies spy on each other. And I assume why
I assume all of our allies spy on us. That's
okay with you.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
One of the things about being a conservative is that
you're not naive and utopian. You don't think humans are
all part of the reason socialism doesn't.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So he's admitting that we're funding a country that spies
on us. I'm sure Ukraine spies on US, So why
are we funding these people? Why are we funding NATO?
Fuck that shit, Let's get out of NATO. I admit
I'm an isolationist. I mean I don't support the terrorists.
I don't support the Muslims or the Israeli government. That
(16:47):
doesn't mean that I don't like Muslims or I don't
like Jews.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I like America. I like all these people individually. I
don't like their governments, but I like America more than
I like any of these people. And that's not a problem.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Work is is the mantra from each according to his abilities,
to each according to his needs doesn't work. As a conservative,
I assume people act in their rational self interest.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
To pay people to spy on you.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
It's conservative to recognize that human beings act to their
own self interests. And every one of our friends spies
on us, and I'm not Do you like it? That's
my question. I'm not asking whether they have motive to
do it. Of course they do.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I understand that, and I and by the way, I'm
not mad at that. And you're an American lawmaker, so
I just want to I want to.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Know your attitude.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
You said that you're guiding principle, in fact, the only principle,
the only criterion. I said, guiding the overwhelming. I wouldn't
say only is it an America's interest? Is it an
America's interest for Israel to spy on us, including on
the president?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
It is an America's interest to be closely allied with
Israel because we get huge benefits for it. And you
want to want to see the clearerites.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But I just want to stop on the spine for
a second.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That it takes place, as you know, and including on
the President of the United States and several precedents, and
I just want to know if that's okay, and why
is it okay? Wouldn't an American lawmaker say to a
client state, you're not allowed to spy on us. I'm sorry,
I know why you want to. I'm not mad at you,
but you're not allowed to. Sure, and I don't care
for it. I don't want to be spot on by you.
Is that it's kind of weird not to say that,
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But you don't seem able to say that.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Sure, I would say, don't spy on us. They're going
to any way.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
And by the way, the Brits are the Canadians are like,
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Why not for that at all? I think it's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
But we don't actually pay their you know, we're not
their most meaningful sponsor.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
We're not paying for the operations. I got to say.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
And this is it's weird we're talking about isolation.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Is the obsession with Israel? Why is Israel? I don't
think I'm obsessed with this, okay, but I think a
lot of people are.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
And like the question, Israel spies on us, well, so
does every other country.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Why are you mad at Israel? Yes?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Oh no, no, I'm I'm hardly the one who's I've never
taken money from the Israel lobby?
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Have you taken money from the Israeli pack? So Apak
raises a lot of money for me, but it's actually
a missomer because the people who raise money are individual.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
So Apak has raised five hundred and sixty three thousand
dollars to Ted for Ted Cruz, just so everybody knows.
I mean, I didn't know our politicians were that cheap.
To be honest, I mean I might go win the
watter in by myself a couple of politicians and tell
them to be actually fucking America first before I pop
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them in the face. Shit.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
So it's not the pack itself, but their individual memories
in the American Israeli uh friendship foreign lobby.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
No, it's an American lobby.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
It's the A pack stands for the America Israeli political action.
What is it lobby for? So, to be honest, not
a whole lot effectively. Listen, I came into to Congress
thirteen years ago with the stated intention of being the
leading defender of Israel in the United States Senate. That
worked every day to do that. A pack A lot
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of times, APAC, I wish were much more effective.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Like there are a swamp of terrified of a pack
and APAC.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I'm not terrified of a pack at all. I'm you're
the one who seems little uncomfortable. I'm asking, I'm not
uncomfortable all.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Nope, not uncomfortable at Yeah. This guy is obviously obviously
bribed by the Israeli Israeli government, Israel lobby, defense contractors.
So no better than Nicky Hayley. So I will I
mean Ted Cruz might be great on the border. Ted
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Cruz might be great on crime, but he is awful
God awful on foreign policy. He is horrible. I mean,
at least Trump can negotiate, he was. Ted Cruise will
just stumble around and fucking suck somebody's dick and kiss
their ass. That's how he works. He bends the knee,
he rolls over. He is a pushover. He is a coward,
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and first and foremost, he's dumb. All right, That's the
main theme of this segment is that Ted Cruise is
just fucking dumb.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I'm just asking what APAC does.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
My understanding, having normal will tell you that lobbies on
behalf of the Israeli government.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It does.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
When was the last time APAC took a position that
deviated from Prime Minister Nyaho? All the time?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
One?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Okay, let me go back and get a little history.
If you want to do a deep dive on, I don't.
I want to do a shallow dive to get no, no, no,
I want to get to the core question.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
A pack is lobbying for a foreign government, and I don't.
It's not lobbying for the United States.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
It is lobbying for a strong US Israeli relationship.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Okay, and so it's not has nothing to do with
foreign government.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Well, the only thing that APAK has advocated for is
America defending and funding Israel. So basically that's well being
for the entire Israeli government. So dead Cruise is lying
or is wrong. Both are equally disappointing outcomes.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
It wants America and Israel to be closely alied, okay,
but it's lobbying on behalf of the interests of another.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
So that's not true at all, And it's not true.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
No, how much contact do you think APAC leaders have
for the government of Israel, No idea, I imagine some.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I think the government of Israel is often frustrated with apacs.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Nearly strong enough? Do you think there's any coordination?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
But our defense of Israel is not strong You hear that,
guys Ted Cruz. Doesn't they get strong enough? Ted Cruz
doesn't think we kissed ned Yah?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Who's asked enough?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Can you believe it?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Between the government of Israel and APEK, do they talk? Sure?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
If you're lobbying for more US Mexico trade, would you
talk to people in the US and Mexico and the
government sure?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Like?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Like if so, I'm not mad about that. There are
million countries that lobby Washington. I like a lot of
those countries, including the Street, but Apecker Americans. But there
are tons of Americans who lobby on behalf of foreign governments.
I know them, I'm related to some of them. I
know how it works. I'm from here. So my question
is not is it outrageous that foreign governments lobby the
United States? They all do, okay, including Israel. My only
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question is why don't we admit that is what's happening.
You're denying it, but it's true. Well, why aren't they
registered as a foreign lobby because they're not.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
They're not a foreign lobby. No, they're not.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And this is that there's a fever swamp. Look, it's
not a fever swamp. These are very reasonable questions. And
you've accused me of being obsessed with his sure, which
I'm not. I actually haven't. I've seen it, fever about it,
which I'm not at all. I'm just I find it.
It's a very tender spot when you ask it, and
I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
So Tucker, all right, let's go back. I was first
elected the Senate in twenty twelve. I came in.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
He said that, he said that twice pretty much, so
he just keeps repeating himself, he's nervous anyway, God.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
And I actually saw Apac be badly wounded in the
way they never came back from. And the second term
is when Obama did the Iran nuclear deal, and the
Iran nuclear deal I think was catastrophic, and Apak went
all in lobbying against you, and they failed. And I
was the leading opponent of the randew Oh, I know
(24:51):
they definitely failed. Yes, they failed. And what happened The
Obama White House told every Democrat when I got here,
there used to be real bipartisans or for Israel. That
has largely disappeared. And it's the Obama Nuclear deal that
caused it.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
What do you mean, what do you mean Democrats? I
mean Joe Biden funded Israel. He's supported Israel. So let
me get this straight. Biden, who sent them twenty six
billion dollars, didn't send them enough. We're being ungrateful and
anti Semites. We're being ungrateful, and we need to send
Israel more money. Yeah, this guy is definitely bought and
(25:28):
paid for for.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Sure, because the Obama White House told every Democrat pick
you either stand with Israel or you're a Democrat, and
you stand with the Obama White House and almost every
single Democrat member of Congress said I'm a Democrat first,
to hell with Israel.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
And then I watched as.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
A pack every one of those Democrats got reelected and
APEC did nothing about it, and it dramatically reduced Apak's influence.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I watched it happen, and by the way.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I told Apak, I said, look, the analogy of the
NRA was supporting a bunch of politicians and cared about
the Second Amendment. And you had politicians that vote to
confiscate people's guns. And the NRA turned around and raised
money for the people who voted to confiscate guns. You
know what, no one would ever care what they said. Again, Shoe,
you're making the case that Apak.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Is not as powerful as people say this, and I
completely agree with I've watched that, and I'm not well.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
It turned John Fetterman into the most staunch Israel supporter
in the world. Actually, there were a few anti Israel Democrats,
particularly in the Squad, who were primaried and lost and
(26:45):
because of the Israel lobby. So Ted Cruz is wrong.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I'm not making the case that APAC is all powerful
and they're running everything and putting Floord in the water.
I'm not making the case at all because it's not true.
I'm only trying to get to the question what a
peck is that. I don't think you're being straightforward about it.
Maypac is lobbying on behalf of the interests of a
foreign country and they're not registered, and you're saying, no,
that's not true. You're saying that they don't coordinate with
the Israeli government.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I coordinate that they do. They talk with them. I
don't know what they do. I can Why don't you care?
Isn't it meaningful if a foreign government? Yeah, I talk
with Israel a the time, all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
But the law is a lot of people can prosecut
under this law that if you are lobbying on behalf
of foreign government, you must register.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
That's it. It's really simple. And I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
If I'm working for Malaysia, Qatar or Belgium and I'm
working on behalf of its government's interests through a group
of Americans who are representing the friendship between those two nations,
I have to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act,
and if.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I don't, I can go to jail. And people have
gone to jail and people I know.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
So I don't understand why we don't just be honest
and say they're lobbying on behalf of foreign government.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
They're coordating with the government. You know that that's true.
That is not only not true, that is false. They're
not cornetic.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That is not only not true, but it's false. Yeah,
is such a world. Let's get to a little bit.
Let's see if it gets a little bit more heated.
I'm gonna go forward just a little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
I don't think they're very effective. I do think we
should by the way America is, you're.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Willing to take that risk.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I think we should protect the president and we should
take out our enemies. Israel is doing that right now.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
But aren't they Why would we.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Try question for regime change. That's a pretty good example
of why I for regime change. Okay, so you're saying
we should.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Just Iran is not trying. Iran is not trying to
assassinate President Trump. Someone whispered that into his ear, and
he's got bad people around him. The New World Order,
the glove lists are trying to kill President Trump. It's
not fucking Iran. It's not Iranian agents. Come on, I mean, shit,
(29:07):
is Ted Cruz paid to look the other way and
be just an idiot? Shit?
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Just go in and take out the government of Rouma.
Would we outsource it to Israel? If there's an a
murder of president?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Okay? You s not like the islationist.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
What I'm saying on any military judgment is there needs
to be a cost benefit analysis of what are the
risks versus what are the what are the benefits? In
this instance, I think it is enormously in America's interest
to do what Israel is doing right now. Take out Iran,
see your military leadership, and take out their nuclear capacity.
That is benefiting America, and it is a good risk reward.
(29:44):
I would oppose invading Iran and putting boots on the
ground to topple the government. If the risk got severe enough,
I would support that, but I think the relative risk
is not severe enough to justify that step at this time.
I'm what I would absolutely oppose under any circumstances is
(30:05):
invading Iran and then staying and trying to turn them
into a democracy. And part of where Iraq really went
off off the rails is not only did we topple
someone who was fighting radical Islamic terris who's a bad guy.
But then we tried the vision of interventionists. It actually
overlaps with the vision of a lot of democrats. Let's
go promote democracy in the world.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
And it is our military's job to kill the bad.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Guys to defend America. It's not their job to defend
international norms. It's not their job. So I have zero
desire for the US military to turn Iran into Switzerland. Look,
would it be nice if they suddenly became Switzerland. Sure,
if I could wave a magic wand great, but I'm
not going to send your kids or my kids to
be in front of guns to go make that happen.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well, bless you for that. I think that's it. That
is the last thing.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I do agree with that. I do agree with that,
But still too much, too much is Israeli influence.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Lesson that I learned from Rock I promoted that war. Apparently,
unlike you, I was dumber, And I think you just
articulated the main lesson of it, which is it's hard
to do that and we're not good at it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
But I will, and so we are agreeing on that.
I will say as quialmently agreeing as.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
A corollary, that doesn't mean that that horrible able dictators
are okay. And going back to Reagan and the Cold War,
we have lots of weapons. I am happy to highlight
the brutality, the oppression, the human rights abuses of regimes,
even though I don't want to invade them, because I
think the bully pulpit of American leadership is really powerful.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And and so I think I think Tucker Carlson really
should have asked Ted Cruz, hey, do you I mean,
China fits the criteria that you're putting Iran in. So
should we go and invade China? Should we go launch
nukes at them? I wonder what his answer would be.
It turns out that Ted Cruise is really just a
(32:04):
fucking warhawk. Man. I'm disappointed. I thought he might turn
out to be America first, but overall I kind of expected.
I kind of researched into Ted Cruz and found out
that he's funded primarily by APAK. So it's time to
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get him out. I mean, I think we have the
capability to get someone a lot better from Texas, maybe
Ken Paxton or something like that. We could have a
lot better from Texas. I mean, shit, we've got a
lot of good rednecks who would support America first. And
(32:51):
instead of taking your guns and weapons to Iran, why
don't we take him to the border and get him,
get all these legal aliens out. Why don't we do that?
Turns out it doesn't make us as much money. Turns
out defense contractors really really like it when we send
our sons and daughters to a fucking foreign war that
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we don't fucking care about. That's some bullshit. I'm again,
I don't support the terrorists. I don't support Israel though, either,
So call me an anti semi if you want. I
know deep down that I'm not against Jews. I'm against
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foreign wars that's gonna that are gonna kill our youngest generation.
And they have a lot more of a purpose in
life than going in and dying for Israel. So I say,
to hell with Israel, to hell with Israel, and to
hell with Ukraine too. I'm damn tired of seeing all
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these countries fuck us over and demand that we help
them because they're under attack. This is your war, guys,
not ours. And with that, this is the end of
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