Position Battles - 🏈 Fantasy Football Q&A "From the Forum" - From The Forum

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
What's up everybody? You know what time it is? From
the Forum, nine o'clock Central tonight. We're talking position battles, Omarion, Hampton, Nase,
Harris Cole, Commet Coleson Lovelin. What the heck's gonna happen?
Hope you're ready for a good one. I got a
good some good guess we'll see in the show. What's

(00:42):
up everybody? Man? I got a crew, I got Joe
and Joe and Hype Hype. What's your You.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Can't be asking people that, man, what's like?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
What's the actual name or is it just hype? Is
that what it is? Is?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
No, it's it's Greg. It's Greg. What a name?

Speaker 4 (01:01):
I like?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's like Greg Greg, It's hype. I'm just kidding. That's fun. Well, look,
you guys know and we're just gonna kind of go
around the horn real quick. Let the audience know, uh,
you know where you create content, where they can find
your work. Uh, and then we're gonna jump right in
and and you know they see me and Joe Frick

(01:24):
every week, So we'll just let you two guys go hype.
You start us off and uh, and then we'll get
right into.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
It, all right. Yeah, I'm a hype or Greg whatever
you want to call me. I do most of my
content on YouTube and x I'm gonna start doing some
Instagram and stuff though, but on x it's just my
name on here Hype f FL, and I do a
show called The Fantasy Advantage on YouTube. You can follow
me on there.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
Awesome. Yeah, I don't. I should be more used to
this sort of stuff. I should have put my Twitter
handle in the name. But you can see my name
down there, Joe. Well that's the important part, I guess.
But you can follow me on Twitter at JB Fantasy Sports.
I've been at road Aware now for the past ten
years doing a lot of different content, mainly just NFL.
I host the Series XM show from eleven to well,

(02:11):
I guess it's noon to two pm Eastern Friday, and
then angel Fire Radio on ten to noon on Series
XM channel eighty seven in the morning on Sundays. So
it's been a lot of fun. Do a lot of
different content on YouTube as well too. The road Away
Fantasy Football YouTube channel is awesome. I got Jim Coventry
is literally a star in the making if he's not
already there too, So you got to check us out hopefully,

(02:34):
Jim not even so much me on the road aware
YouTube channel side of things, And yeah, I mean, I'm
excited to It's an honor to be in the show.
I'm excited to get to the positional battles here.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, Joe, appreciate you tuning in. Greg, Appreciate you for
coming on. Well, as you guys know, we're in the
middle of the off season, and when you get into
the off season, Joe, I know, it's so weird to
saying Joe and Joe great, nasty there you go, my
government name. Yeah, you know that, like some seasons can

(03:04):
be decided by what happens as we lean into the preseason, right,
like these position battles, you know, and maybe right now
you're drafting right and you're taking your shot on Amario
on Hinton right, or maybe you're taking your shot on
a late round JK. Dobbins and you're wondering how that's
going to play out for you. You know, maybe you're

(03:25):
drafting Xavier Worthy over Rashie Rice and you're sitting there,
you know, in a similar ADP range and you're going like,
you know, which of these is really going to have
the return? And that's part of the conversation tonight. So
as we kind of dig in and if you're tuned in,
make sure you hit the like and sub. If you
have questions, pop them in the chat. We'll make sure
we get to them. But you know, that's kind of

(03:47):
question too, is it's not only of like who's going
to be the top performer, but also who's the greater
value at ADP right, Like, cause if I if I
can get similar value in the tenth round as somebody
that I'm gonna get in the fourth round, and I
can use that fourth round pick on somebody that still
has that same value, well my team's gonna be much
more loaded. So that's what we're gonna kind of dive

(04:08):
into as we get going tonight, and we're gonna start
with quarterbacks, and we're gonna start with probably one of
the most controversial ones. Right Everybody has been waiting to
see Anthony Richardson do anything since his com since the
Combine when he had one of the greatest athletic performances

(04:31):
that we've seen and his draft stock rose dramatically based
on a high jump and some athletic metrics. You know,
we have been waiting to see him in the Shansteich
system do well, right, and we haven't got it. We
haven't got it. And so now they bring in Daniel Jones,

(04:54):
who arguably is kind of I mean, at least halfway
is mobile, but maybe he has a better arm. And
so there's a quarterback competition there, and especially in these
leagues where you're valuing run heavy quarterbacks, right like this
is this is a big decision. So, I mean, Greg,
you kind of start us off. How do you feel

(05:17):
here with the Anthony Richardon Daniel Jones debacle.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, it's pretty interesting if through training camp, if Richardson
hasn't made a change in some of his really bad
decision making, then I think Daniel Jones kind of runs
away with the job. The problem is is Richardson has
a lot of really good physical tools, like he can

(05:41):
escape in the pocket and move around a lot really well.
Obviously he can run, and the guy makes some of
these really crazy physical like contorted body throws and makes
them catchable most of the time. The problem is that
he just does it too much. He's always trying to
push the ball down the field. I mean just last

(06:02):
year he threw deep passes twenty percent of the time,
which was what fourteen percent I think was the closest,
which is part of the offensive scheming because Joe Flacco
was fourth in that list on his team. So his
average like pass pass the line of scrimmage was twelve yards,

(06:22):
which was the most by three yards of anyone else.
So if you can clean that up and stop trying
to do so much, and the offense can like scheme
things in and help him get easier throws and easier passes,
I think he could still take it. But it's really
hard to believe in it from what we've seen. So
I do think that Daniel Jones is the guy who

(06:44):
walks away with a job.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
All right, Joe, you in agreement?

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yeah, yes, So I want to be clear to the
audience listing there really should be no realm in which
you're considering drafting either one of these quarterbacks. We and
this Morrison panel are probably in enough deep leagues where
we have to have this awful conversation. Do I take
Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson? Please God, if you are

(07:12):
in a league where it is that deep, consider other
life choices, because I often think, as I'm going through this,
why am I doing this. I love talking about football,
I love talking about fantasy football, but Daniel Jones or
Anthony Richardson who's going to start is one of the
grossest questions I think you can ask. I wouldn't be shocked.
I mean, if you looked at the odds right now,
I think the Colts as one of the worst records
in the NFL this year is like a They're like

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the six or seventh worst team in that regard. Like
I think a lot of people assume this Colts often
Colts team in general is not gonna be very good.
I think the answer to this question is far more
football related than fantasy football, really than we really want
to acknowledge. I think the Colts organization is a mess.
I don't know what happens now post Jim Orsay, rip
Jim Orsay, but I do think there's an there's an

(07:53):
opportunity for the organization to do something differently than they
have since the Peyton Manning days. I think Shane Steichen
understands he's coaching for his job. I certainly know that
Chris Ballard is aware that his drawn Manders staff is
also up for grabs as well too. They are at
competing odds though, because I think Chris Ballard, in order
to keep his job, needs Anthony Richardson to be not
only a starting quarterback for the Colts, but an upper

(08:14):
rushlam one like at least positive trajectory. Other than the
one throw to Alec Pierce that happened last year, there
has been any semblance of positive trajectory. It was a great,
throat right throw, the only one right. And I think
Shane Stiken understands, well, Hey, if I don't get ahead coaching,
or if I get fired from the Colts, now, I
need to make sure that other teams understand that I

(08:36):
can least coach well. In this case, I want to
win football games, and Daniel Jones is probably the one
that does that right now. Over what we've seen from
Anthon Richardson's I think the front office and the coaching
staff is at competing odds too. If that sounds like
a healthy dynamic for a competitive, good football team, I
don't think so. Like I'm just concerned overall. So my
answer really is I don't want to be involved in

(08:56):
either one of these offenses from the quarterback position. I
think the big deal is who benefits in the scenario.
Either one is the quarterback if you guess it correctly,
and I wouldn't be shocked if Friley Leonard also starts
at some point for the Colts too. That's how I
could kind of see this end up happening. So Josh Dowins,
to me, is the answer to this. It's not the
quarterback situation, but who benefits in either one of the scenarios.
Josh Dollens as the Wondale Robinson for Indianapolis. Daniel Jones,

(09:20):
I think is the biggest winner, and therefore I'm rooting
for that scenario. But I'm gonna tell you right now again,
please just consider other life choices if you really need
to have one of these two quarterbacks in your roster.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So so we're gonna kind of we're gonna kind of
segue from that question. So it sounds like both of
you are like, Danny Dives is the best potential option
for that offense, and is the really the possibility of
saving that head coach job?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
You know?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
So maybe maybe that's the question there, since we got
that from both y'all, although really the narrative seems to
stay away from it. So in the realm of offenses
to stay away from. Let me let me ask you this,
would you rather own a Giants quarterback in a Russell

(10:09):
Wilson or Jackson dart Over in Indianapolis quarterback? And if so,
who do you think wins that battle?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You win with these A lot of these, like so
many of these, and then you forget about the season
because you had so many of those.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
For those listening, he is talking about, forget all your memories, beverages.
You know that is what he is talking about. Ye,
mind racer, if you will, Yeah, mind Racer, season Raser.
Look I it happens. But you know, Joe, I'm curious,
are you do you want the Colts quarterback room over

(10:55):
the Giants quarterback room? And furthermore, trans you know, kind
to move it over to the Giants quarterback room? Who
do you think holds that job majority of the season?
Who you drafted in fantasy?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
To me, it's an easy Coals. I think that their
sneaky upside. There for no other reason that Daniel Jones
will run the ball. We've seen him in a top
twelve year from running the football Anthony Richard Richardson, despite
him getting tired sometimes and pulling himself out of the game.
Was third in rushing yards for quarterbacks last year, So
that is a bit of a cheat code. If you

(11:28):
look at the narrative last year, it was, oh, Anthony Richardson,
He's gonna break fantasy football. Look what he did in
those like limited opportunities before he got hurt. And I
was like, well, the offense was so bad he wasn't
completing fifty percent of his passes that it didn't matter.
Russ Wilson he did have that scrimminbality back in the day.
He's a little bit older now doesn't really have that.

(11:48):
The not being able to see over the offensive line
isn't all that good. I think that he can Pepper
Malik neighbors quite a bit. But as far as like
the purely the quarterback position, there's no question that you
got to go the Colts guys, and I don't see
a scenario un less shown and Dable think that they're
gonna get fired mid season. They don't want to play
Jackson Dart right away. That's something that's like a sit

(12:11):
let him learn figure out like a snapcadence that isn't
clapping your hands, and then like, let's see what we
got next year.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
You know, the thing is like BHS Cardinals said in
the check and lots of coaches on the hot seat,
and I think we're looking at two really here that
are in that world. So like that decision not just
for us in fantasy, like us in fantasy, like okay,
who's gonna produce for our fantasy team as like a
last you know, three round pick in the in our
in our fantasy drafts?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Right?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Or do they even get drafted? But you know these
coaches are saying, okay, who do I bet my future
career as a head coach on? Right? And uh, you know,
I do agree that the Russell Wilson, especially through the beginning.
I think that Jackson Dart if you watch him at
Ole Miss, like he just struggles when he starts getting hammered,

(12:59):
right and that and that comes with a little bit
more of like that veteran presence to take a sack,
get up, look another sack in the face and still
get the ball out. Yeah, Russell's a legend at that, right,
And I think so I think that they the Giants.
I think that Dable has created the best possible situation
for him to extend, even though even if they don't

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win a crazy amount of games. If they get four,
I mean they get six wins right then, And he
was like, I roll with Russell Wilson as we got
Dart ready. I think he gets the closest chance at
another year versus like the Colts, which are still a
hot mess. Now, you know, Steichen is supposedly a quarterback whisper,
so maybe that's a little bit different. But you know,

(13:41):
Steve Blonda in the chat here is saying, if Lenary
gets the starting job at by the end of the season,
Colin Cowerherd is the biggest winner. He's writing them up
the whole time.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Uh you know, Tyler, can I hit the on the
horn buzzer?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Can I?

Speaker 4 (13:55):
Can I jump in? It's possible? Uh, you hit such
Jackson dirt struggles when he gets hammered. I'm just gonna
tell you, as a Wisconsin alum, I have no idea
what that concept is. I thrive when I'm hammered. So,
speaking of the who was referring to, I do agree
with the concept of this. He is a compelling question
if we're considering Round seventeen best balls. But frankly, Anthony Richardson,

(14:15):
Daniel Jones Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston, Jackson Dart. That's a
five sum of quarterbacks that I don't think will impact
things up until at least October November. And in the
case of Joe Shane and Brian Dable, that's their golden
ticket for their jobs being extended. I think even the
scenario the Colts are seven and ten, you probably clean
house with again the unfortunate passing a Jim Ursy. I

(14:36):
don't really know what the Colts' organizational structure will look
like other than there's already been a lot of pressure.
So there has to be a crazy scenario for the
Colts offense to really change things around and the narrative
to be a positive one. Whereas all takes is Jackson
Dart in Week fourteen throwing for two hundred yards touch
on two picks and it's like, wow, I mean he
had a pretty good throw. We just did that Anthon
Richardson last year.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Right.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
That's all it will take for Brian Dable and Joe Shane,
I think to have an opportunity with you Jackson Dart,
to extend their jobs.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah. I love to take We've got some people in
chat suck Fellas from Albert Lion Light Worship pump for
this show over on Twitch. Love the show, appreciate you
tuning in. Brent Bradford, what's up, Danny Dines for the win.
Rooting for Daniel Jones to have some kind of resurgence
in a new offense. You know, it will be interesting

(15:25):
to see what if they roll with him, what Steiching
can do with him, you know, like I think that
will be an interesting question. But I do agree, and
I know we have a lot of quarterback battles and
we're gonna kind of come back to quarterback. I want
to continue to progress the conversation, right, you know, we'll
talk a little bit about the Browns, So if you're
if you're, I know that that's the one that's on

(15:46):
every one of the ones on everybody's mind. So we'll
get there. But like you said, in fantasy and I
think the Browns kind of entered that conversation, especially in
a one quarterback redraft league. Right the quarterbacks that we're
talking talking about, we're talking about end of the draft,
like we're talking about some of the last quarterbacks drafted,
as far as somebody that could start for your fantasy

(16:07):
football team. So I want to transition to running back
right now, because with the rookies coming in and the
running back landscape, this is a position even with you know,
if you're playing the scott Fish Bowl, there's a huge
emphasis on the running back position this year. So it's
a big question mark. And you know, I would say
before this this conversation, it was probably a lot different.

(16:29):
If you saw a thumbnail. You saw that, you know,
one of our main topics is nausey and lamar and Hampton, right,
and before the fireworks disaster, right, it was obviously even
a much more significant question. We don't know what it's
going to be because despite the thumbnail where it's one eye,
my my understanding is that it's both eyes. But you know, Greg,

(16:53):
what's your feeling on this running back room? I mean,
is this going to be a Lions where you got
Montgomery and Gibbs and both are actually creating value for you,
or is this a running back room where one is
going to completely take the show and is gonna institute
themselves as the stud and the other ones just gonna

(17:14):
kind of work to the backflow.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
And I just want to jump in real quick before
he goes, just to give some kudos a little bit
like runnings back is this guy's stuff, So if you
haven't checked out his content, like, this is what he does.
So it's like listen and listen closely.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Thank you, thank you for that. Yeah. No, this one's
gonna be tough the whole Nag Harris injury on July fourth.
That really made this one hard because I honestly was
assuming that Nagy is gonna take the lead and he's
gonna run away with it at least for the first
half of the year. I mean, the guy isn't that
he was just stuck on a team that had a

(17:50):
terrible O line. Doesn't like to do things that makes
sense with Arthur Smith, you know, playing against the OC.
So uh yeah, I I do. I Omarion Hampton is
a guy that I think I'm a lower on than
just about probably everybody. I kind of just real quick.

(18:10):
I have this like two yards per carry data that
I've created and I've been kind of working on for
a couple of years, and like players that have done
really well are Chanty and in this class, Devin Neil
and Henderson excuse me, and Skataboo and those guys and
Bjon Robinson have one of the best scores I've seen.

(18:31):
An outlier was like Devin at a Chan because of
his speed, I think. But anyway, Omari and Hampton is
the worst I've seen, So I am very worried about
what he actually does in the league this year and
through his career. So I'm at a toss up with
a with a Naujy injury. Uh if I was putting

(18:52):
my money on it, though, if they what they say
is true and he's gonna be fine, then I'm still
betting on Naji. But Omari and Hampton, even if he
takes over later in the year, he's just not worth
the fourth round pick for me.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
I mean at the fourth round a d P, there's
a lot of value there. What about you, Joe, what
do you what do you think in relation to those two?

Speaker 4 (19:16):
I want to make sure we're talking to the not Steelers, Joe,
because that might be okay. It's it's an interesting combo
that we have here because I thought I was the lowest.
Tomar and Hampton. We have a panel of it. It's
really fascinating. So one of my favorite movies is Dodgeball,
and I often think of Steve the Pirate for no

(19:37):
other reason than I just think that character is very funny.
If you had overlaid Naja Harris as Steve the Pirate,
that would have been one of the best thumbnails of
all time. So shame on you for not going the direction.
What is What does a superficial eye injury mean? Like
I I that is a terrifying bit of language to discuss,
and I understand why the agent would say it that way.
You're you're it's like you're trying to do the uh

(19:59):
Frank dreben woul the fireworks behind you. Stay calm, nothing's happening,
don't worry about it, right, But like a superficial eye injury,
best case scenario, there's cuts around the eye, like it'll
there's some swelling parts of things, right, Like I think
of the David a Joku situation where it's like, oh
my god, right, Like, I don't know what that's supposed

(20:19):
to mean. And I guarantee you the agent doesn't want
us to know, and we probably won't know until mid
August even later into that point. And that makes me
really uncomfortable because I would agree with you, Greg ironically
when people when we were having a discussion about what
is Amaron Hampton as a prospect. Everyone gets all excited
about Ashton gent and rightfully so. And I had said,

(20:39):
I think Marion Hampton is like a better pass catching
version of Naja Harris. And that was before the charges
that I'm drafting at number twenty two, And it was
to what you were saying, Greg that I don't think
Naja Harris say bad running back. I do think it
was less about Arthur Smith than there are just overall
some limitations to what Naja Harris can do. But a
thousand yard guy that's pretty durable that plays for the
majority of his career has value in today's NFL. Brian

(21:01):
Robinson's going to get a second contract from the Commanders
or somebody else and does the same exact thing.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Like I don't.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
I don't think it's a bad thing to be Naja
Harris or Brian Robinson. But I would imagine a Maarin
Hampton is the better version of JK. Dobbins from last year,
and Naja Harris is the better version of Gus Edwards.
I don't I don't understand why people are thinking just
because of Martin Hampton has taken the first round, that'll
be any different than what the Chargers did last year.
They commit to their offensive line, they didn't do a
whole lot in addition to adding receivers. I know they

(21:27):
drafted Trey Harris the second round. Mike Williams already gone
like this was going to be a run oriented offense,
and they signed a guy who is a guaranteed of
thousand yards every single year of his career. So if
Naja Harris is not Steve the Pirate, then I would
assume Marion Hampton probably is not good value where he's
being drafted, I think in the NFC like fourth round spot,
but I would imagine he's gonna get pushed up even

(21:48):
higher because there is such ambiguity about what a superficial
eye injury means and how that can relate to playing
football and the NFL level.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, I think what's driving a lot of it too,
is that if you look at at least from like
a die to see perspective, where I think a lot
of the data is coming from. It's like the hit
rate for first round running backs like to have like
a like a a good season is like eighty percent
or something like that in the last ten years. So
people are like, oh, like you're getting drafted in the
first round. Great, they look back and say like, hey,
like you had Bijon was the runaway RB one, but

(22:20):
you would have people that say now that Gibbs has
done better and I'd rather have give than Bijon moving forward.
So they like they don't want to miss out on
the last time that this happened kind of thing. But yeah,
it's uh, it's it's gonna be interesting. I it's a
shame that stuff like that can even happen, but yeah,
the murkiness is going to drive his price up higher

(22:41):
than I think I'm definitely gonna be comfortable with. And
I think Nausey is a much better fit for that
offense that he was in the Steelers, Like the outside
zone scheme that they run here like it just wasn't
a fit for him. So I was excited to see
what he can do with the Charges. I'm still excited
to see what he can do with the Chargers, but
I think it's gonna be a lot closer to a
fifty fifty split then people are willing to admit.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Not that I want to take over the hosting role, Tyler,
but I'm really curious if we get to this point
that a Mariin Hampton is drafted ahead of James Cook.
Are you guys taking James Cook or you taking to
martinon Hampton because we're maybe like ten picks away from
that happening, and I think the August team might get us.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
There Cook, you know, with the with especially with the
Ray Davis rise, like, I think that that's probably hurt
and Cooks back. Now, I do think Ray Davis makes
a statement. But even if it gives up three touchdowns
and a little bit of his you know, rushing, you know,
I think he's still an effective person. You know, it's

(23:39):
it's tough. I think it It depends on how it
pans out. Right now. I would take Cook for the
the value there. But you know, Joe, I will say this, Uh,
that was probably the best player comparison as far as
like their roles that I've gotten on that that backfield,
like the Gus Wards JK. Dobbins dynamic, I think that

(24:03):
that's really on point. Which if you look at that offense, JK.
Dobbins ran with it right like, like he definitely had
the higher production. The difference between JK. Dobbins and Amaron
Hampton's I think Amarion Hampton has the finishing speed that JK.
Dobbins didn't after multiple you know, knee blowouts. You know,
So I think that Amaron. For me, it's Amarion Hampton

(24:27):
over nause. But also that's a that's a byproduct of
my opinion on nause. Nause will be the most effective
when he starts to understand that he is not a
lateral moving running back. You know, so often in Pittsburgh
you saw him try to side step and it's just
such a slow side step, you know, and it's just like,

(24:51):
you know, it's like you just need to you need
to do Derrick Henry and you just need to run
straight like you're you're not bad and you can catch
the ball. Just run straight, get your yards and I
guarantee you're probably yards per carry average will increase by
probably a yard and a half if we get down
to brass tags. But I just don't know if he'll

(25:11):
do that. And so then when you talk about hardball,
right and who will lean a little heavier with the
hot hand, I feel like Hampton just gets a little hotter,
you know, But that's me. I'm not to not to
be the opposite. Maybe playing a little bit of Devil's

(25:31):
advocate here. It's a confusing backfield that gummet. But and
I think that's.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
The thing in situations like this right where it's you
win fantasy leagues by being willing to target ambiguity and
you're not gonna hit every single one, but if you
steer clear of like we know that the Chargers are
a good rushing offense, right, so if you find a
guy that's slipping in the draft or you can get
value there, like take the chance. You might not hit

(25:59):
every single one, but if you're gonna take like a
guy that is probably gonna be on a terrible team,
or you know they're not gonna run the ball a
lot because oh I know he's the bell cow. Well
if he gets all twelve carries and they all suck,
it doesn't matter. So it's like attack that ambiguity. You're
gonna get value. Like maybe you say, hey, I'm gonna
take the lower guy every time, or is a guy
that I feel passionate about, like get after it like

(26:21):
it's you. That's where you're gonna get the value. Because
everyone doesn't know. Everyone's guessing to some degree. You're gonna
have some people that plant the flag because then they
can brag about it or delete their tweets later. But
you that's where you're gonna get value. If everybody knew
what that was gonna happen in the season, we wouldn't
be playing this game, you know.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
And here's here's the separator to me, Like, when you
talk about positional value, right, I think nags the greater
value because of how much further down his ADP is. Uh.
The I do think Hampton has the higher probability of
big plays and big big play making a bill, but

(27:01):
at the cost of essentially fourth round draft capital. That
that's that's the shift, right, Like, that's the shift that
we're talking about. And I don't know that I can
pay that price for a rookie we haven't seen on
an NFL field yet in an offense where we know
they're gonna run the ball, we don't know how it's
gonna be delivered. So digressing from that, uh, you know,

(27:21):
Joe or Frick, you have the Steelers patch on your
shoulder and yeah, look, look, look, let's let's be real.
There's been a lot of talk recently, you know that
maybe Jalen Warren, maybe Jalen Warren actually owns that backfield.

(27:43):
And with the drastic ADP difference between Caleb Johnson and
Jalen Warren, like, who are you taken in fantasy as
a Steelers fan who knows their offense and knows what
they do right, who's the better gamble?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
So how I said that Nausea is a horrible fit
for the Steelers offense, Caleb Johnson is a glove fit
for Arthur Smith, like glove fit. Like seeing him in
the third round was like that sexy. I like that
you're essentially getting a second first round pick this year
with Troy Fatanio coming in and sliding in the right

(28:23):
hand side on the right tackle. So like that offensive line,
they've really worked hard. Their assistant gm Andy Weddell, he
was an Eagles guy. Build from the trenches and work
your way out. The Steelers are priming to figure out
who their next quarterback is and they're just kind of
throwing random people in there in the time being, but
you can tell they're going in the trenches and they're working.

(28:43):
They were out both sides.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Of the ball.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
That being said, I do think that Caleb Johnson's being overdrafted.
If you think about what Mike Tomlin does with his rookies.
He doesn't just throw them in right away, and you
have to build that trust up over time. So I
think that Caleb Johns is going to have a role
to start the year, But people say, oh, well Warren
has his role and then he's just gonna replace Nausey

(29:07):
who is the starter like Mike Tomlin. Don't get down
like that, Like that's not how it's gonna work. Could
he eventually be the early down guy? For sure? Jalen
Warren is a great third down blocker. That's something that
Caleb Johnson's gonna have to work on. So you can't
just flip it and say, Okay, now you're the Jalen
Warren guy, because they're not gonna throw him back there
with Aaron Rodgers in his one leg and wash a trip,

(29:28):
like they need Warren to be that third down guy.
But it's like, I don't have a lot of optimism
in this offense. So like, if you have a guy
that's gonna be carrying the ball a decent amount but
not really getting the pass catching, give me Warren who's
still gonna get a sizeable chunk of carries. He'll get
the PPR. But I don't really care much for either
one of these guys in the backfield, Like, this isn't
gonna be a high scoring offense. The offensive line is unproven,

(29:51):
and they're gonna be running like twenty tight end sets
because they're probably gonna trade for three more. So it's
just like I probably wouldn't pick either, but if I
had to pick one, I would go with Warren.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Well, you know when when when Donald Washington is essentially
another lineman and so you get to cheat and you
get another lineman on your line, Like who doesn't want
to run behind that? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, him and Broderick Jens be back next to each other.
I got the little bash bro action. It's gonna be
a good time. About the same size, Yeah, I mean
you might as well.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
So, so Greg, how do you feel about it? Are
you in the same boat with Joe on that?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
No? I mean I no hate to learn, And that's
not like I'm not far away from Fred. I just
I prefer I lean the Caleb Johnson away. Warren's like
the Marcus Smart of the team. He's he's the heart
and soul. Everybody loves him and he has a role
that he does it very well. Caleb Johnson has insane vision,

(30:45):
and this kid is gonna tear teams apart. He's really
really good. He's patient, he he, he has that instinct
that you want in your running back, who's gonna lead
the team. So they're both, I do agree. I'm not
sure or if I'm gonna have my hands on any
of them, because there is gonna be a lot of sharing.

(31:06):
But if I'm gonna pick one, yeah, I'm gonna take
Caleb Johnson.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Oh that's so tough because Warren's basically free.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
So right now, right now on underdog, Caleb Johnson's RB
twenty three and then Jalen Warren's RB thirty three. So
in that tier where Caleb Johnson's at, you got like r. J. Harvey,
Trevion Henderson, Caleb Johnson, they got like the Rookie Club.
You got Monty DeAndre Swift, Pacheco. Like, give me any
of those last three guys that I said over Caleb
Johnson any day.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
And I think Warren is elevated in best Ball because
of the potential, you know, like sure big play. So
I in redraft, his his ADP's even much lower than that.
We had a question from Aaron Dub Dubs on the
in the chat and he said, could Warren be the
number two on Pittsburgh in catches? No, I don't think

(31:57):
so either. You know, I'm gonna put us out there.
You need to watch how for for Calvin Austin. You
need to watch out for Calvin Austin. Calvin Austin was
probably the most freak athlete the year he played in Memphis.
He was the most freak athlete on the team. And
we just haven't really gotten to see him yet. And

(32:21):
you know, I think that there could be in my
mind and maybe I'm just dreaming it up, but like
I just see this, like you know, Aaron Rodgers, Randall
Cobb dynamic between these two guys, and we get a
lot of PPR love between those and so just that

(32:42):
out there. I don't think Warren gets his number two
on catches. I think we're gonna see the emergence of
a young wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
But you know what, if they were smart, they would
just take all of the tight ends with Calvin Austin
and put them in the backfield and just throw him
over the line, and like charter situations, it would be unstoppable.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
It's like the push, you know, like where somebody you
got a linebacker standing straight up and they still don't
touch them.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Like he could get That's hilarious, all right. So for
the for the sake of making sure that we get
to each position, and we'll kind of come back and
we'll do some some quick hitters at the end, I
want to get to wide receiver rooms. I think that
there's a significant conversation to happen there. You know, we've

(33:36):
got some and you know, in the order of operations
for the show sheet, I had them in a little
bit different order, but I'm gonna pivot a little bit
because of the news that came out, you know, just
just a couple of yesterday that you know for Rashi
Rice that uh you know what what was going to

(33:59):
be the at on his case and you know what
we can look to see for him in the NFL. So, Joe,
I want to throw it to you, you know, with
the Kansas City Chiefs. You know, when you're talking about
these arts, seris you have Arashi Rice, Who's I mean,
I mean his ADP is like you're talking about round four, Uh,
you know, like pretty highly drafted for you know, somebody

(34:22):
that's gonna miss time. But Xavier Worthy has creeped up
the board, you know, and he I've seen him go
as early as round three, right, and I don't think
that's but I've seen him go that early. Hollywood Brown's cheap,
Juju's cheap. And then there's a lot of energy behind
the rookie Jalen Royals and how he fits in that offense.
So I would love for you to just break down

(34:43):
for the listeners kind of how you bake these and
then who you would target in your draft if you're
going to target a Ksey receiver.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Yeah, before two days ago, I would have said Rashi
Race is probably one of my favorite values in fantasy
right now. That could have been best best ball, full point PPR.
Redraft doesn't really matter because they're there's a point in
time where I think everyone just assumed he's going to
be the number one receiver for the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
But was that really mean?

Speaker 4 (35:06):
And the answer has been, well, the offense hasn't been
that great, so I don't know if it's that valuable.
But sort of what the more handsome Joe had said
with the Steelers in the way that they work in
their rookies later in this later in the season, the
Chiefs do that as well. And you think about Rashid
Rice's rookie year, it was only like week ten, week
eleven homore that he came on and became I think
the alpha receiver in that group. And whether he was

(35:28):
predestined to be there or not or draft to be that,
that's a different question. But I think the Chiefs are
very deliberate in making sure that they bring those young
guys up, not even so much that it's up to
speed for the young guys, but to not reveal to
NFL offenses that this guy can make a massive difference
in our offense. Xavier Worthy was the same exact way
last year, and I had I get accused of this
at the office, and probably rightfully so that I'm a

(35:48):
sizest insomuch that I don't like drafting smaller players to
bond Hm would be a perfect example. He was one
of my fades last year. I still have egg in
my face.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
From that one.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
But Xavier Worthy was also somebody that wasn't drafting. I
thought best case scenario for Xavier Worthy was peak Commanders
and Eagles to Sean Jackson, where here is a seve
one hundred and seventy pound guy who can get twelve
hundred receiving on sixty catches. The offense has to make
that possible. I'm like, well, yeah, of course, Andy Reid,
Patrick Mahomes, they'll be able to do that. But the
defense also has to allow that too, and defenses for

(36:17):
years haven't been playing the Chiefs to allow Xavier Worthy
to be that way. I don't think there is a
possibility even in today's NFL where there are smaller defenders
tackling players that you, as the Chiefs who have Super
Bowl aspirations every single year, want to throw your one
hundred and sixty five pound receiver out there like he's
a hundred catch guy. Tyreek Hill was twenty pounds heavier
when he was doing that for the Chiefs a couple

(36:39):
of years ago, and even then defenses sort of took
that away. So in my mind, Xavier Worthy is still
going to be the deep threat, much like we saw
in the Super Bowl last year. I think that it's
the best case example, but you're going to see Marquise
Brown be the beneficiary so long as Rashi Rice is out,
And that's the complicating factor in this and to answer
it truthfully, I probably won't be drafting Rachi Rice anymore.
At least I will need to wait to see what

(37:00):
the suspension might end up being. If it's six games
that gets Negotia down to four, that's much different than
four Negotia down to two or three. Like we've kind
of been seeing, there's way too much ambiguity. A lot
of receivers like Chris godwinke Evans that I like in
that range instead, So I might be taking Marquise Brown
instead from like a round ten, eleven, twelve ADP value
in best Ball as opposed to going up and pushing

(37:21):
Xavier Worthy. But if you choose to do that, if
you want to go ahead and say, well, Zaviy Worthy's
gonna be the guy, I don't really blame someone for
thinking that process. I just get really concerned about what
would happen if a I was gonna say Patrick Willis,
because I'm dating myself as to one I liked linebackers,
But a Fred Warner smacks Zaviy Worthy over the middle
when he's trying, Like, I just don't think the Chiefs
can use Zavi Worthy that way, Like he literally isn't

(37:42):
built to be that sort of target. So if you
think he's peaked to Shan Jackson for this Chiefs offense, great,
he probably will be. That means defense at playing them
completely differently than what they have the past three seasons.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Got a couple in the Chad Fantasy Football Show, Yo
and Mister Magic saying, by the dip on Rice with
the suspension, maybe Rice drops three, three, four rounds? Maybe?

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
I mean now if Rashid Rice is in the seventh round,
like I will be eating the dip, the chips, everything
else that comes with it. Like that's like Inn saying.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, okay, so I like to take you know, because
we have so many rooms to cover, We're gonna kind
of move a little bit and Greg, I'm gonna throw
over to you this Tampa Bay Buccaneers wide receiver room.
Mike Evans, Chris Godwin. They took a high draft capital

(38:37):
on a Meccagbuka, You got Jalen mcmillion Millan and then,
unknowing to most you also still have Sterling Shepherd there.
And so you know for this offense, you know you
got Mike Evans. Really, Mike Evans and Agbuka are pretty

(38:58):
close in a DP. Maybe upbraided about around round and
a half. Chris Godwin's in there. Who are you targeting?

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Okay, Well, just to add really fast to that last part, Worthy,
I put out a tweet that I will tattoo his
name on me if he's a top five wide receiver
and PPR this year.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
The radio we can delete.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah, at the end of the day, it's not that
bad though, he's literally tattooing Worthy on his body. There's
so many plays on that. Yeah, have tattoo exavior Worthy.
Then we're talking.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Something I know that gets I did. I did agree
on full name. It's a very heated conversation. I have
another day, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I can only imagine who it might be.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Probably, But yeah, So onto the bucks. Uh honestly they.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Have Hey, Greg, real quick before we get into that.
I want to just want to make sure we get
these user questions as they pop in. I want to
go to the bucks. But uh, ron T had a question,
would you guys trade a lave for Samson in a
mid second in Dynasty? So just hit it real quick.
Would you make that trade?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Probably?

Speaker 1 (40:14):
No, would you make that trade?

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Absolutely? Not Love, I have a fifty percent exposure to
a lave in Beastball right now, He's easily one of
the completely misunderstood prices I think out there at the moment. No,
Lave is a top ten receiver in real life NFL,
provided he still has a head after next season. No,
I'm not trading with.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
It's crazy before the concussion last year, like you would
have had like him and Garrett Wilson essentially like in
like a similar conversation and he had a concussion and
people are like, oh, I should just drop him right
It's like, yes, okay, it's Samson hot right now because
of like the Judkins news, like dude's a piece of crap,
but like their Browns aren't getting rid of Judkins, Like

(40:55):
that's not go away.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
No, you're talking about the same regime. Said, Oh, Deshaun Watson,
what happened?

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure that Judkins is going to
get a contract extension fully guaranteed after.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Okay, we got to digress from that one, so not
over to the tables and dropping the knowledge. The Fantasy
Football Show also asks you why is Mike Evans so
disrespected in drafts? And I agree because especially like if
you want to get a value, extend your draft as

(41:29):
close to the NFL season as possible because for some reason,
Mike Evans as we go into draft drops and by
the end, by the time we get like right up
next to season if you're doing your draft, he's like
dropped four rounds in ADP every single year. And it's
absolutely wild. But anyways, great, I digress, Please give us

(41:50):
your take on the tamp bed.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
All right. So, yeah, they have a very good problem
to have. It's way too much talent the wide receiver room.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
There.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Godwin coming off the best career seven games he's ever
had going before he gets hurt last year. And then
Evans being Evans every year, Mike's automatic a thousand yards,
you know, eight nine touchdowns, Like he's just always gonna
be that mc millan having a mini breakout in the
last five to six years, who I drafted in Dynasty

(42:22):
and believed in and that also got me neighbors in
the package deal, which was awesome. And then they went out. Yeah,
that was a great deal. They went out and they
got it Igbuka, who is a really awesome prospect and
he can play any spot really in the wide receiver room.
But he's like a slot king and I think he's

(42:44):
gonna he's gonna him and Godwin are really going to
fight in that like wide receiver two slaw area a lot,
and they're both gonna have a lot of success. So
it's really hard to it's really hard to feel out
like where you should draft these guys. You want to say,
like the cheapest one, but give me Mike Evans. I
think I think that's the best deal for what you're

(43:06):
going to get out of him and his ADP. Like
you said, it's just just just drops all year long.
So by the time you're almost a football season, Mike
Evans is probably the guy you're gonna draft above everyone.
So yeah, Godwin, Godwin. I like Godwin a lot. He's
coming back from the injury, but once he's on the fields,

(43:27):
I mean to the moon for me.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Have they said anything about, like what's the status of that,
because like people are like, oh, I's coming back from
this injury, like his like what fell off.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Zero?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, draft like of Godwin? Uh, but that's me. This
is a this is a personal decision. Uh.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
You know, for Chris Tyler, why are you Why are
you fitting Chris Goblin? What's what's the issue.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I've just never been in on Godwin like like I would,
I would, I would. I'll take Mike Evans every year
over Chris Godwin. And there's multiple receivers that I would
take over Chris Godwin every year like he's never been high.
Because Chris Godwin is the opposite of Mike Evans. Okay,
Chris Godwin is the guy that the closer we get

(44:16):
to the season, somehow his narrative increases his ADP. And
the next thing you know, we're drafting Godwin in the
fourth round and we're drafting Mike Evans in the seventh round,
and everybody's going, what the heck is going on? You
know it just but but again, that's my perspective. Joe,
obviously you may feel a little bit different. Are you

(44:38):
in on Godwin?

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:40):
Is this more handsome Joe or just me Joe? I
forget Joe, Okay.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
You're handsome Joe.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
We're calling Frick.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Okay. I mean, I just don't think that's acknowledging how
handsome Frick is. But that's fine. Well, so it's funny
you and I met at the f sja A draft
in Chicago a couple weeks ago, and I partake in
the F SGA experts draft that we have live on
serious XM. I inadvertently committed I think the I think
a cardinal sin, frankly a fantasy. I went all the
way in on the buccaneer stack. I had Bucky Irving

(45:08):
in round two, I had Mike Evans in round four.
We were talking live on air and I was like, well,
I would love Chris Ulave. Somebody sent me right before
I know my co host liked Chris Gobwin. I was like, well,
it's have a conversation about Chris gobb I'll take him
over Say Flowers over Jamison Williams over Xavior Worthy didn't
realize that I had then committed Bucky Irving, Mike Evans,
and Chris Godwin to that. That makes I actually am

(45:29):
completely fine with the Buccaneers offense overall. And maybe there's
some like hindsight bias that's coming out right now, but
the Buccaneers just can't do it again. There's no way
for a third straight time that the offense corner change
can withstand the offense. I disagree. I think the division stinks.
I think the Buccaneers are the best team that they're
as even keel and as medium coached as you can

(45:50):
ask for, which really all is you can need to
win the NFC South and provided Chris Godwin is back healthy,
and I think he will be at least if it's
not in the first month this season, he'll certainly be
by by Thanksgiving me back, and that matters a lot
to me. I think the Mecca Buka selection was a
the Buccaneers recognizing, well, Mike Evans is post thirty years old.
We don't know if we're gonna be able to resign

(46:12):
Chris Godwin back or not. We know the Patriots want him,
There's a bunch of money out there. It's possibly he
doesn't return. Let's protect ourselves in this instance, and I
think that I guess the fre agency happened before the draft.
But either way, when you have a Mecha Buka, like
I thought, Greg perfectly illustrated, he's a really really good
slot receiver. I don't know if it's picked nineteen worthy,
but he's a really really good slot receiver. Abuka could

(46:33):
play in the outside though. So if you're saying the
Buccaneers are going to win and be successful this year,
it's because of their offense. They lost a lot of
pieces on the defensive end, they will need to win
because their offense. You are protecting yourselves with Mike Evans
and Chris Gottwin if one we'll get injured. Micha Buka
does the same thing. So I like Mike Evans from
a value perspective. Jaal McMillan's perfect as an outside receiver
as well. Like the bigger deal in my mind, and

(46:55):
now the answer to this question is more so, how
much do we value Tristan Wurf's possibly missing the first
month year. That's a bigger deal in my mind than
whether or not Chris Gowin comes back.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Aaron Dubbs asking no love for league winner Jalen McMillan.
You know, Igbuka really clouded that not but also not
because McMillan is not a slot guy, so you still
have the opportunity of burn you know, those big long touchdowns.
And I like him in best Ball and for consistency

(47:26):
and like standard fantasy formats, Maybe not so much because
I think it'll be one offs, kind of like what
people are looking for out of Marvin MEM's this year.
I think that's like a lot of the Jalen McMillan role.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
It's soil in Dynasty though, right, because it's like people
are like, oh, well, he's not going to really be playing,
but like you saw what he did last year, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
I think he is a great Bilow because like like
Joe said, he may be like we may be looking
at a team that doesn't re sign Godwin puts Agbuka
in that role and puts McMillan on the outside and
then you're not complaining at all. So you know that's there.
So continuing to move on and you know, we're we're

(48:06):
getting into the last you know, ten to fifteen minutes
of the show here, so I want to make sure
we get the tight ends. But I do want to
layer out one more wide receiver group, and it's just
because it is the question mark of the century and
everybody is wondering what the heck is going to happen
and who is going to emerge, and that is the
Green Bay Packers, which is a onslought of what it

(48:31):
feels like to be mid tier wide receivers like for days.
And so you know, Greg, you tell us, you know,
with all the greenery in the back and in the
background there the Packers, how does this shake out? You know? Like,
is Jane Ree getting a bad hit? Is Matthew Golden
really that good? Can dubes do it? Christian Watson if

(48:54):
he's healthy, is he actually a wide receiver one for
that team?

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Like?

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Actually, you know if he's on the field, And then
you start getting into wis you start getting into Sabion Williams,
who has all his hype coming out of the draft
for some reason, even though he hasn't had a huge
you know career at you know TCU, like, and then
Miko Hardman, what the heck? Like, what's gonna happen with
Green Bay Packers?

Speaker 3 (49:18):
You had to pick me for this?

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Man?

Speaker 3 (49:20):
I don't know. It's it's literally the biggest toss up
in any wide receiver room in the NFL. Like, Golden's
not my favorite prospect as a Cowboys fan. A lot
of people were calling for them to take him, and
I was like, please, God, don't do it. Please. He's
really consistent in his route running and his focus at
the catch point. I don't love him. He'll help the

(49:44):
offense in the NFL for sure, but he's not the
kind of guy who plays that X spot, so he's
not gonna be the alpha read last year was probably
the most inconsistent player I've ever seen, having like top
fifteen weeks, I don't know, three or four times and
the rest. He didn't touch anything above wide receiver for seventeen.

(50:05):
So it's Romeo Dobbs kind of a jag. Same with
Wis and the rest of this lineup in this team,
I don't really know what to do with it, And honestly,
I'm just gonna stay away from the wider seas room
as a whole on this team. Jordan loves fine Tucker Craft,
sure you can get him late, but as a whole
this I'm staying far away. This is like radioactive to me.

(50:28):
I don't want anything to do with this room.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
The funny thing is really outside of Matthew Golden, who's
still probably what sixth seventh round adpiece or maybe seventh
eighth round.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
ADP a little bit later than that.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, you know, like you've got everybody here is pretty cheap. Uh,
you know, not Frick, but Joe or whichever one of
you guys have.

Speaker 4 (50:52):
I'm a Packers fan, so I actually feel pretty good
and able to answer this question now.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Fans.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
First off, I watched Handsome Joe roll his eyes when
it comes to the Packers receiving corps. I'm sorry that
we beat you in the Super Bowl. You'll get one
again eventually. It's okay. I'm sorry that that happened. Clearly
that was I thought that's what the animosity was for,
and I just want you know it's okay. Yeah, I
would agree with everyone's frustrations with this, and I think

(51:19):
the vitriol needs to be pointed at Matt Lafleur. And
I think Matt Lafleur actually gets doesn't get enough credit
as being one of our coaches in the NFL. Like
you talk about Kevin oc connell, I understand that entirely.
Ben Jonson's this wonder kid. Yet here's Matt Lafleur that
I think consistently turns out really really good production in
the worst situations. About Malik Willis last year, that guy
was cast off by the Titans, who desperately needed a

(51:40):
quarterback helps them win football games. Made a completely different
game plan than what you do with Jordan Love. To
answer the receiver core question, Jayden Reid is absolutely the
best receiver of that group. I don't know what Matthew
Golden is yet. Maybe Matthew Golden can be that right now.
But it's clear that Matt Lafleur has these silos for
the receivers that they have to beat. Romeo Dobbs will
always be the boundary receiver. Jade Red I think, would

(52:01):
be a great slot receiver, but he plays on the outside.
He has those dynamic runs from right to left, the
routes they'll run. I think with that love throw against
the Rams of Week two that he absolutely should not
have done right in triple coverage catching the left corner
that only Jayden Reed makes that play. Christian Watson does
not have the abibity to go up and catch that
up at the high point. I don't think Matthew Golden
does as well too. I think for this year, Matthew

(52:23):
Golden is just going to outright replace the Christian Watson role,
which is just stretch the defense out. There's gonna be
some opportunities, I think on short throws where a man coverage,
he just runs past them. To Greg's point, I don't
think Matthew Golden is as refined of a route runner
as maybe we've seen a first round receivers and Mecha
Buka for example, much better route runner. But when Matthew Golden.
Matthew Golden gives you in this offense is a speed

(52:45):
element that I think Christian Watson could do but for
whatever the reason, wasn't able to be over the middle
kind of catch radius. I think Matthew Golden actually can
do that for that offense. But if he's just Christian
Watson two point zero, that's also not fantasy valuable. But
I think if that makes Dobbs, if it makes Romeo
Dobbs more effective, and it makes Jane Reid more effective,
the Matthew Golden is a valuable first round pick for

(53:07):
that offense. I'm not drafting anyone besides Jade Reed. That's
that's the only really going for because I think there's
an upside play where he can do every one of
the mat with four silos. But right now I agree
with all you guys that I'm kind of just avoiding them.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
So I guess my question would be, and the thing
that I've been thinking a lot about is there's something
to be said for a quarterback that's able to support
a number one receiver. And Jaden Reid's best season two
years ago, a lot of that had to do with
his success running the football. Not that he was like
a dominant alpha receiver. So do we think that Jordan
Love will hyper focus on somebody enough to give them

(53:43):
the targets? I mean, they're leading target getter didn't surpass
eighty targets last year, so he's very much the spread
the ball around kind of guy. Do we see, like,
even though they draft Golden in the first round, does
that changed Jordan Love's perspective. I don't think that it does,
and that scares me more than like, I don't think
it's a talent issue. It's just the offense runs and
they get the open guy and everybody eats, and that's

(54:04):
just bad for fantasy.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
Correct. I think bad for fantasy is the right answer.
Savian Williams is probably gonna do the Jayden Reid role
from two years ago. Tyler, you had mentioned him as
like he's getting hype. Well, I've heard like if he
gets eight STAPs, that's a good game for Savian Williams.
I don't think he's gonna be a big factor, but
wholeheartedly agree with you that the I mean Matt Laflor
and Aaron Rodgers hyper focused. One guy that was Devon Adams,
Because Devona Adams was one of the best receivers in

(54:27):
the NFL. So to your guys's point, even as a
Packer fan, I can acknowledge Romeo Dobbs, Jayden Reed, Dontavian Wicks,
Matthew Golden, Christian Watson, they're not some of the best
receivers in the league. And I think Matt Lafuor has
kind of helped produce the has helped make that production happen.
If there's one to elevate above that, I do think
it's Jayden Reed. I think you talked to what the
Packers seem to think, or you look with the Packers

(54:48):
even think they believe Jayden Reed can get to that point.
But if Matt Lafluor is not trusting Jaden Reed to
be that receiver making those play calls, that that doesn't
really matter.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah. No, I love the takes for breaking that down
for us, Joe. So there you have it from Joe,
a Packers fan himself. You know Jayden Reid is the
one that you want in that offense. Uh, I got
some other dad's gaming, yoyo? What's upl? I appreciate you
tuning in. You know, there's a lot more that I
want to get to but we got to move to

(55:19):
tight ends. We're running low on time. And you know,
first off, if you watched the NFL Draft, we were
covering the NFL Draft live at a bar in Nashville.
When when the players have.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
To cover the draft, it must have been a horrible time.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Oh it was an amazing time. But you know when
the Bears surprise the world and took colse In lovelin
uh in the draft when they had when they had
a good, in my opinion, a complete tight end, a
good blocker, good ball catcher. Maybe he's not the fastest guy,

(55:57):
but he can still move and get open. And in
Cole Comet and I'm like cold, I'm telling it was
probably the one pick in the NFL draft that left
me completely dumbfounded. I had no idea, and I was like,
why does this pickense make sense? And maybe they just
don't want to pay Cole Comet coming out of the
next you know, coming out of his rookie deal. You know,

(56:20):
I don't know what it is, but uh, you know,
everybody's asking and can you see you see Colston Loveland,
like his NFL draft capital rising significantly in drafts. I
mean he's going up there with with your within your
top ten, top seven tight ends, like you're seeing him
drafted in there, and you know cole Comet's being left

(56:43):
really in most cases undrafted, right, And so do we
really think and and people say draft capital explains all,
but you know, Titan's also a slower developing position, you know, Greg,
do we think that cole Comet is just out like
it is the Colston Loveland Show.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
No, I don't think so. I do believe they're both
just gonna get play time. I don't think I'm gonna
be honest. Before the draft, I didn't really know much
about Loveland. I didn't know. I never saw that coming,
and I hadn't put any real attention or thought into him.
So I was a little shocked that the Bears decided

(57:24):
to do a kind of bear thing and just make
a weird pick like that. But I mean, I would
have taken Warren if I was gonna go that early
in my personal opinion. But uh no, okay, all right,
Joe Frick's not a fan, but comments still good. Yeah, right,

(57:46):
and he's gone.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
You can't kick out all Joe's because of my comments
that I didn't mean, Joe, You're Joseph, Oh that was great.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Yeah, No, Coment's still good, and I think they're both
gonna hold their own in camp. I don't think they
can choose between one or the other. So I say,
at least in dynasty, if you have them both, hold
on to them or get them both if you can.
Now and Redraft, I'm not touching them. But if Comet
go somewhere after this year, he can bring some value

(58:27):
later on. I think Comet I honestly think he's more talented.
But yeah, that's my take. It's kind of just whatever.
They're both gonna get work and no one's gonna be
really great this year.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
So what do you think? Frick?

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Do you think the Colson level was my number one
tight end coming into the draft. I know that Tyler
Warren had the big year last year, but he was invisible,
like he wasn't really getting playing time. He couldn't beat
out Brenton Strange, Theo Johnson. So I was like, oh man,
you getting the heavy pool in there. I respect that
all right, but it's like that, like there were quality

(59:02):
NFL caliber tight ends, but for me, it's like not
having like an early breakout at all and then just
having a big one year season. Like I feel like
it's very easy to say you had this fourteen hundred
yard season whatever, like your set, Like, there's a lot
of unknowns with having Tyler Warren there. I think Loveland
is a better blocker than Warren was gonna be. Also

(59:23):
on the Colco met contract, so he signed a year
to a new deal two years ago. His potential potential
out in twenty twenty six, So I would expect them
to like either cut him or move him after this season.
So I think from a Dinings perspective, yeah, that's all
gonna work out. What's interesting is so you mentioned it
Joe earlier about like Matt Lafleur consistently being a good coach.
We have Ben Johnson there. Now it's like, was this

(59:46):
an ego pick for Ben Johnson? Oh right?

Speaker 4 (59:49):
I think that. I think Luther burden Will was more
of an ego pick. But that's a great question. I
do the Waiverwear Show on the Road Aware Fantasy Football
podcast network every Monday. I guess it was. It's been
two for a while. My coast Jake Lutarsk and I
really go over like too deep, and truthfully, we go
too deep into this because I think he plays in
some super deep leagues and like Jake, we really don't

(01:00:09):
need to talk about this guy. And the person that
comes to my mind so often is brock Right. You
guys remember Brockwright for the Lions. Somebody to oh, yeah, yeah,
such a touchdown pass? Right, this is the Ben Johnson offense.
What if Brockway is actually Cole kmet Rights And that's
a value to the Chicago Bears that will make the
offense better this year, A two year point more handsome
Joe that if you can move past Cole Comet next year,

(01:00:32):
you're still setting yourself up to have this year San Laporta,
and then also have a better improvement on the brock
Right role, which has been a function for Ben Johnson
for as long as I can remember. I've had to
do too many shows where he is shoehorned into the
podcast for two minutes, and I hate it. So I'm
not drafting Colston Loveland. I can acknowledge real rule, a
real world football value for what the Bears can use
him for, but I would rather have Tyler Warren. Now,

(01:00:53):
I'm going to give you one other rookie tight end
that I think I would draft over all of them,
and that's Mason Taylor for the Jets. There was some
major steam towards the end of draft season, and I'm
gonna one up Tyler real quick. Uh, you had to
draft in Nashville, you get to do the draft coverage.
I did it literally in front of the draft stage
itself in Green Bay, Wisconsin, so flex the only time
that's my.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
People there. We had people there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
We play, but you weren't, Tyler. That's all that matters.
I got to look really cool. I really thought miss
a first round selection. I thought there was that point
where you looked at his odds had been like thirty
one and a half. He was up with the Eagles,
maybe trading up to get their Dallas got a replacement.
He ends up going as one of the early second

(01:01:37):
round picks to the Jets. It's more of a PPR
sort of selection because it's Garrett Wilson and it feels
like nothing else in New York. But I do think
Mason Taylor is going to be primed to just beat
by default a sixty catch guy because there isn't anything
else in an offense, and we know he's gonna see
snaps the blocker too. So whereas Colston Lovelin is gonna
be drafted as like the eighth, ninth, tenth level tight end,

(01:01:58):
I think Mason Taylor, who can get basely free anywhere
value right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yeah, I love it, Joe. I just so you know,
you're not the less handsome Joe, but I I can
you know, I just want to give you your your
props there. So I took Mason Taylor in a ton
of Dynasty drafts. Uh. In fact, I think I got
one hundred percent exposure out of my Dinosceilles. I only
playing like five because I don't have enough that many website.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I'm only in five Dynasty.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
But I like Mason Taylor. I think that Justin Fields
needs a dump off guy, and I think Mason Taylor
could be that guy. And it just like it fuels
and you know he that was one of our conversations
because you had Jeremy Rucker who kind of have a
little bit of an emergency last year, right and then
you have Stone Smart who they signed, you know, and

(01:02:53):
it's a crazy like size athleticism, you know, specimen, and
you know, people were wondering, well, okay, who's it gonna be.
And especially because coming in the draft. We actually got
the narrative that Mason Taylor wasn't all that much of
an athlete and he wasn't that mobile.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
You know, he was heard at the combine.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Right, but if you do if you look at the tape, like,
if you look at the freaking tape, I don't look
at tape.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
What do you do?

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
No, No, you gotta look at the tape. You look
at the tape on Mason Taylor row and you're like,
this guy could catch a football, like like he can,
he can do the thing. And so it's exciting. And
when when you're early, early tight ends that pop off
are hard to find. They're hard to find. It's one
offs most of the time. It takes multiple years for

(01:03:42):
them to really elevate. And you look at even like
the top it took Evan Ingram a while. How Pitts
still ain't popped yet, like you know, like it just
takes tight ends a while to get in the game.
And you know, you get you get randoms like Samuel Porta,
who was not the top tight end draft that year,
you know, and Brock Bauers, who's a completely different conversation.

(01:04:06):
You know, yeah, right, right, all totally different conversation. But
I think Mason Taylor has what it has what you need,
and I'm in Joe, I can't agree with you more.
I think that's a great take and it covers one
of our our conversation pieces here. And you know, for

(01:04:27):
the sake of not holding everybody over too long, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
Tyler, can I jump in real quick because I never
got a chance to weigh in on the Steelers side
of things with Caleb Johnson And if we end today
having a Joe on Joe battle to the death, I
think it's correct other more handsome Joe. When was the
last time the Steelers ended up using a rookie running
back that made a significant difference to that team?

Speaker 6 (01:04:52):
It would have been would have been Nauji who Caleb
Johnson is going to be replacing now, that was literal
corpse of quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who forced bed Harris seventy targets.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
That that's not quite what's gonna happen with my guy,
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Necessarily hopefully Rogers does drugs a little bit and does Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
The ayahuasca stuff is much different than the motorcycle things
that Ben Roethlisberger does, yes, I would agree with you.
So I think there's a point to be made that
Jalen Warren is gonna have some value. But I don't
know if I agree with the Mike Tomlin doesn't use
rookies if they're good and they have a role, like
Caleb Johnson is going to one for one replace Naja Harris.
I think that's there. And to what Greg said earlier,

(01:05:33):
which I thought was fantastic, the vision Caleb Johnson has
more than makes it for the lack of explosiveness that
some might deem him to be as a Big ten
running back. I think it's very clear what he did
at Iowa like, Caleb Johnson is a not electric in
the same way Jonathan Taylor is. But people were dismissing
Jonathan Taylor. I'm from Wisconsin, so we can do this
as a guy that was, oh it's Ron Day in

(01:05:53):
two point or whatever else. Jonathan Taylor is way more
explosive running back then I think Caleb Johnson falls in
that criteria more handsome, Joe, You're gonna be very happy
that Caleb Johnson is a better, more explosive version for
Naja Harris.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
I'm thrilled. I'm so thrilled. And I think the other
thing that's interestingly argue against myself is that Jalen Warn
has never cleared one hundred and sixty touches in a season,
so there's a lot of work out there to be had.
I just think at the draft capital, that's more where
I'm at.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
I think that is the second round pick because they
got rid of it for DK Metcalf. If if they
did not trade that second rounder for DK and Caleb
Johnson was on the board.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
I would probably shocked at all.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
If they took Caleb Johnson because that is the replacement
of the Naja Harris role. So Naja hit three hundred
carries his rookie year. I'm just saying, like that could
be a function again this season.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
I think, yeah, you can it go to black and yellow,
to black and yellow. It was just good juju. You
know he looks good.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
It's like, yeah, so we're gonna do a five minute
lightning round. And this is you don't get You don't
get much feedback. You know, if you have a sentence,
you can share your sentence. We're gonna all three hit it.
I'm gonna drop, I'm gonna drop a battle. You say
who wins the Okay, we'll go, we'll go class. So

(01:07:03):
we'll go, we'll go Handsome Joe, we'll go real Joe,
and then we'll go to Greg. Uh and so, okay,
ready for this, hope you guys, it's a light button.
Hit the subscribe button. It's gonna be a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Okay, So.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Cleveland Browns? Who starts? Who starts for the Cleveland Browns
this year?

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Tiny hands?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Can you pick it?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Are you asking me for everyone? Who starts or who's
starting week one?

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
No, who who's who's the who's the sorry? Who is
the fantasy asset to have this year for the Cleveland Browns?

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Who's their punter?

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
No? Quarterback? We're talking quarterback.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
No, don't draft to Cleveland quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Now, just pick one, Joe. It's part of the exercise.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Shador Oh that hurts.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Okay, uh.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
Yeah, real Joe. I think Flacco starts week one. I
certainly don't think he ends it, but he's gonna be
the one that generates the best fantasy production out of
those guys.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
I'll say Flacco, Greg the third Joe Joel.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Alright, alright, ready, next one, Tyler Shuck Spencer Rattler shuck.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Yeah, baby, come on.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
I mean, I'm I'm all the way in unshucked, so
yes go. I mean, and when Kenby is the second
round pick, I think Tyler Schuck's the call, Spencer Rattler.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
I think give us a little more.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
So why just give us like one sentence A why?

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Uh? He's he's already had time in the NFL. And
if he comes in hot at training camp, meshing with
the ones, I think he just owns the he owns
the rope, all.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Right, oh spicy, Okay, keep keep moving, keep moving?

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Running Backs Denver Broncos R J. Harvey, JK.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Dobbins, Tyler A cover of years.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
R J.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
Harvey, it's one hundred Harvey Tyler Tyler? What would you
think otherwise? I need to hear your JK.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Dobbins is his boy. He loves Dobbs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
I know I like Dobbins because I think Dobbins, despite everything,
is a good running back. In his career, He's never
averaged less than four yards of carry, like and and
that didn't even like even freaking in in Baltimore. I
don't think he ever averaged less than six yards of carry.
Let's see, because he can only play four games of
seasons very year. No no, no, no, even the games where

(01:09:34):
he played, Like, yeah, I appreciate it, but like so
I've liked JK. Dobbins. I think JK. Dobbins injuries have
really given him a bad run. I think he was
a talented back that could have really had a significant
NFL career had it not been for the injuries and
so breaking my heart, but knowing Sean Payton, knowing how

(01:09:56):
he likes to do, I'm with you on r J. Harvey.
I think that that's the one to have.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Greg. Uh yeah, it's I lean a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
JK.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Dobbins. He's got a special place in my heart. He
was one of my first Dynasty rookie picks. Ever, so
him and Lamb so uh yeah, I prefer him just slightly,
but they're gonna share the backfield, so it's kind of
a toss up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
At the ADP value, Dobbins is definitely cheaper, but I
think R J. Harvey is gonna have the breakout like
Dobbins is limited to like a twenty thirty yard run.
Like if he breaks away, he's gonna get caught and
that's gonna limit him.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
RJ.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Harvey can get loose and get get an end zone. Okay,
moving down wide receivers, no, no, no, sorry, when we're running
back Dallas Cowboys, Javonte Williams, the recent progression and narrative
of Miles Sanders or rookie jay Don Blue give.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Me a Colonel Sanders, Oh Sanders?

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
All right, I can't say mafta. Uh No, I'm not
gonna go in the direction. Javonte Williams is probably the
right call.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
I don't really want many of them, but you're talking
about Javonte Williams or JK. Dobbins, Chavonte Williams or Naje
Harris all going the same adp. Gavonte Williams has the
obvious chance to be the best running back in that backfield,
and we'll get the most opportunities. So, like, I understand
everyone's optimism for Dobbins and Naja Harris an example, but
they're going to share the backfield. I'm not positive Javonte

(01:11:26):
Williams will or if he in the best case scenario,
he is going to be the guy for the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Greg Uh yeah, I will start with Javonte Williams, but
Jaden Blue a ka Gibbs two point zero. He'll take over.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
Oh, I want that one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Like Jed. I don't know if you've seen pictures of
Jed on Blue. We talked about it last year. That
guy's kind of blown up a little bit, and it
makes hey, man, I live in Texas for ten years,
you eating good down there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
I can't blame him because well, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Know, look, he needed the size.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
I am interested to see what Javante does because I
don't really feel like Javonte's gotten his fair shake for
his draft capital yet and so like in Dynasty, I
think he's a really cheap by low and I'm interested
in at least the risk because he was a good

(01:12:24):
running back in college. I think he can be a
good running back in the NFL. I just don't think
he's really gotten the shot yet. And he's one of
those guys where he needs touches. It's kind of like
Derrek Henry, Like the more touches Derrek Henry gets, the
better he gets, right, And Javonte needs touches, and I
don't think he's gotten touches. So okay, moving on wide receivers,

(01:12:44):
we got one out of the wide receiver groups Houston Texans.
I think Nico is clear, but there is this debate
between Christian Kirk and Jaden Higgins, and then you also
have Jalen Knowles slotting in there somewhere. Where are you at, Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Gimme Higgins man. They get guaranteed that contract for a reason.
Christian Kirk, you're whatever slot receiver. To me, I'm not
really worried about you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
I think Jayden Higgins is your Nico Collins gets injured
every season replacement, and the answer actually is Christian Kirk,
and that they have Jalen Knowles as the replacement for one.
Christian Kirk, who gets injured every season, is out there.
But I think Christian Kirk for what the Texans could
do this year is absolutely the guy. Stefan Diggs was
featured heavily last year. It's a different offensive scheme, but
rookie receivers not always the immediate entrance point, and certainly

(01:13:34):
Jaill Knowles wasn't that kind of receiver. So I think
Christian Kirk actually is the correct answer for this.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
All right, Greg Higgins Higgins will be that the guy
right behind Nico, and it'll be Noel and Kirk playing
for the slot and I don't think Kirk wins it,
so that's my death trap for them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Okay, I got two more. These are tight ends. We
gotta hit him quick. We're way past time. Los Angeles
Chargers Mike Williams officially retired. Uh we thought that wide
receiver room, which is heavy, was gonna be very heavy.
But obviously losing that it shifts a bit. So the

(01:14:14):
question is at tight end. We have the Twitter videos
going viral of you know, Tyler Conklin out there showing
how to run routes, you know, like doing this thing.
And then we got we got we got this Ley,
we got mister Montana, and then we got probably one

(01:14:36):
of the more hyped pass catchers at the tight end
position in the rookie class and Ronda Gaston. Who who
hits who gets the job?

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
Joe?

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
I mean, after that performance, I gotta pick Tyler Conklin,
But before that performance, I also want to pick Tyler Conklin.
So I think that guys can He has potential, but
he's still a project. They brought in Conkland for immediate use,
so they wouldn't assign if they didn't need him.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
I'm almost certain Tyler has ran a better route or
could run better routs than Tyler Conklin was last year. Actually,
yeah that, I'm actually very certain that Tyler could do
that more effective than Tyler Conklin. It's either Disley or Gaston,
and I would rather take Gadston as like a flyer,
given the draft Captain invested in him. We're talking about
literally last picking any of your drafts. Ever though, because

(01:15:22):
nobody is drafting Will Disleey. Nobody's drafting Tayler Conklin was
drafting Gatston, So give me, give me the roll of
dice in the rookie.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Yeah, got Fishbowl. They're drafting him Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Yeah, no, uh, it's Conky. I'll take the guy who's
got the start at the start of the year. I
don't know. Disley's not he's more of like a blocking guy,
and Gaston is a project. So yeah, I'll take Conklin.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
I don't hate it. I do think watch out for
Gats and I think that he can separate himself. I
don't know that it happens immediately. I think, like you said,
they brought in Conklin for a reason. But keep your
eyes peeled, you know, especially if he doesn't start the
season in Dynasty and then you can go get him
for cheap. You know you might do that because I
think he's got a shot. And you know, last one

(01:16:15):
Seattle Seahawks Noah Elijah Arroyo rookie versus vet who owns
the job, who gets Sam Darnold until he gets obliterated
behind an awful offensive line, and then gets Jaylen Milroe,
who actually thrives if anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
I think fans a more polished blocker, so he seals
the field. But Arroyo has potential as like a goal
line option for them. But I don't see either one
of them being fantasy relevant if I had to pick
one for fantasy purposes. Fant's been a pretty big disappointment
as far as like first round tight ends go for
fantasy purposes. So give me the upside of Arroyo.

Speaker 4 (01:16:56):
Yeah, I think the Royal conversation exactly what Tyler said
earlier about rookie tight ends take a lot of time
to develop, and Arroyo was one of those that was
just athlete and nothing else. That typically doesn't translate in
the NFL. I would imagine for a guy like McDaniel,
the head coach, comes from that Ravens lineage, he will
want to see the Charlie Cole or the ISAA likely
make their way, like work their way to the point.
I think Royo kind of qualifies, So no fan by default,

(01:17:18):
but I think the Seahawks offense could sneakily be like
a bottom five, bottom ten offense in the league. And
maybe the answer is just nobody overall, but I think
I'd rather have fans.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Yeah, you got mad signs is dropping in. Just don't
draft either Seahawks or a saying.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Cooper cups haircut on new they won't winning the super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
That was the only reason why you didn't think that.
Okay sounds yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
The fan, it's a lot of unnecessary hate. He doesn't
perform well in fantasy, but he's a good player. He's
just been in really bad dynamics for like the offenses
he's been on. So I'll take fan.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
All right, Well, there you have it, folks, man, you're
telling them about position battles. I had no idea how
we were going to try to get through that list.
I was like, we're gonna do the best. I don't
have to like I had to like put these in
like three minute sections. We went a little over but
Hopefully you as listeners, got the content you were looking for,
you got questions or enough insight that you feel confident

(01:18:17):
to make your decision going into your fantasy football drafts.
Joe Frick, Real Joe, Greg. Great having you guys on
real Quick uh, Greg and and Real Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
If you would just let the listeners know again where
they can find your content and can connect with you
as far as like, you know, fantasy insights go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Job.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Uh Yeah, well you can find me in JB Fantasy
Sports on Twitter. But more importantly, my company road Away
did a pretty big complete redesign of the site, got
some new colors, got new logo. I think it looks
really good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
But more real good guys had a good job.

Speaker 4 (01:18:56):
We launched a new app, RW Football on the App Store,
both Google and iTunes, and I think I think this
is probably the best mock draft simulator that I have found.
I don't know if you guys recall this time in
your life, but there was a real good three month
period of my junior year of high school where I
was exclusively on ESPN mock drafts, just like joining every

(01:19:17):
single one, doing every one of those drafts. And I
remember at the time, hating how gosh darn long it
took for the cpu of all people to make picks
or some random people. The road Away or mock draft
tool I think is really awesome. Again, the RW football app,
it's free to go ahead and do that. There are
draft assistant tools on the app itself. I think code
YouTube fifteen it's fifteen percent off a road Aware subscription.

(01:19:39):
But overall, check out the site, my content on their
JB Fantasy Sports. More importantly, use the app to help
beat everyone else in your league besides these guys. And
I'll see everyone I think at the Fantasy Expo this year,
or at least some of you guys. Handsome Joe and
I are going to have a lot of pictures together,
I know that for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Oh yeah, so many picks.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Yeah us on Twitter or x hype ffl and the
Fantasy Advantage on YouTube. Uh you want to win your leaks, man,
Come check out my YouTube and listen to my content.
My rankings are phenomenal and uh yeah, just come watching.
Hope to see you guys again. I love being off here, man,
I appreciate getting invited.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
And Greg, no one said it, but you're beautiful too, baby,
come on, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
I love I love the literal like you know, grass
growing on the back wall there behind him. It's absolutely killer. Now,
thank you, look, thank you guys for tuning in. It's
all always a privilege every Friday night, nine o'clock. It's
a privilege to drop content for you guys, and always
we have some great guests. Joe, Greg, I mean, you

(01:20:45):
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Hype ffl Joe, go check out rod o Wire is
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you know it just may separate you right enough to
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We'll see you next week, nine o'clock Central Friday night.

(01:21:28):
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