Standouts, Sleepers & Saviors - 🏈 Fantasy Football Q&A "From the Forum" - From The Forum

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
What's Up?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Everybody? Welcome to from the form your Friday night show. Tonight.
We're talking standouts, sleepers and saviors, the guys you can't
leave the draft without the guys that nobody else knows
about that you need to grab and the people that
are gonna come in the back half of the season
to help you win your league. So sit tight. Here
we go from.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
The form What's Up?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
What's Up?

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Everybody?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Nine o'clock Friday night. We're here, and I got some
guests with me tonight.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I got my guy, Johnny May, I got.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Bob Long, the Consistency King, and of course Joe the Man.
Frick I freaking love it, man? Is it just me
or you guys? Bob? I mean, are you hype? I
know you're getting ready for the xpar. Are you hype
for the season? It feels like it's starting like today.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'm hype from the moment. It ends, especially after last
year when I made the playoffs in twelve out of
fifteen leagues and won zero titles. Yeah, that hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I was wine.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I'm not sure what does? So then I'm like, okay,
next year, Like next year.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I have seven gez, that's most people we got some
folks popping in the chat. Ben McCown, let's go Amber.
What's up Amber?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Kevin? Yo?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
What's up Kevin?

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Ben?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
George Kittle has been my most drafted tight end in
the last as he should be Lewis pres Bo Nicks
to the Moon and Dust and what's going on fellas
he Thanks all for tuning in. Make sure you hit
the like budon, make sure you hit the subscribe and
tonight you know we're gonna be covering this content, but
make sure you drop your questions in the chat, uh,

(02:09):
you know, so we can help you make your decisions.
You get ready, draft season starting. I've already started my
first re draft league and I'm like, oh my gosh,
it's so early. Scott Fishbowl live drafts are happening, Joe,
you got yours this weekend. Cincinnati just drafted. It's getting
crazy and uh, and of course you know, we're what

(02:29):
two two months not even two months, two months out,
not even two months out from the fantasy.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Week from today.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm gonna be a blast and we're gonna cover some
of that tonight too. But we're gonna kick this right
in so you know, our first portion of the night
right here. We're covering my guys. These are people like
as we enter the draft that we can't leave live
leave without, Like, you know, number one, I gotta get it,
like this is gonna be one of my league winning

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play you know, that's gonna be consistent on my team
all season. And so, Bob, I'm gonna throw that first
on to you because the word there was consistent. And
I know you you had the consistency guy that you
released every year, which is an absolute incredible publication if
you're watch and make sure you go check it out. Bob,
you would just drop that link in the chat so
they can find it. But yeah, the I mean the

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league's won of players that can consistently perform for you, you know.
And uh, and so, Bob, Who's who's your number one
for you this year?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I mean, if I'm picking from number one, I'm probably
going to go just Jamar Chase. And I know every
running back person's butt cheeks just squeezed up. And I'm sorry,
but the numbers he put up last year in a
season that went well. But let's remember t Higgins was

(03:58):
kind of like in and out mentally. That's in that
season he was playing hard enough not to get hurt
so that he could get a new contract. Now he's
been paid, Jamar has been paid, Joe's already been paid.
Their defense literally can't stop anyway. It would not surprise

(04:20):
me if Joe breaks fifty touchdowns. He had forty three
last year, forty two somewhere in there. So chases my
guy at one oh one. But as you mentioned, the
consistency thing in the first round, if you're not walking
away with somebody who in the past, and the guide

(04:42):
will tell you that has not been over eighty percent
consistent in any season, don't draft them. There are a
lot that have. So there's a reason that those people
were in round one. You know, justin Jefferson, Jamar, Chase,
you know Sequon, Gibbs, Jon They're all there, and as

(05:07):
long as they stay healthy, they should put up that
eighty percent plus. Now you really wanted to be ninety
percent plus like Jean and Gibbs last year, who were
both one hundred. That's what you want. So I'm not
going to argue with somebody goes oh, I wouldn't take
Chase first, I would take Ja.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
I'm not gonna argue with them.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
They were one hundred percent consistent. I get it, So
it's Jamar. But Jamark put up a whole lot more points,
so you know, that's that's my guy at one oh one.
Anybody who is going to be in an eighty ninety
percent tile even at the end of round one. I
mean you've got people like Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey, A J. Brown,

(05:51):
Monron Saint Brown. I mean, there's just so many Pooka Nakua.
All of those guys are surely worthy. You know, everybody
always asks, well, what position do you want to draft
out of in the first round? I go, none of them.
Scare me, don't take anyone, you know, yeah, I don't
get you more Chase, I picked twelfth. I get it.
But and it's why you should do an auction. Right,

(06:12):
We've talked about this, but you can always win from
any role. There should be no reason if you know
what you're doing, and you've got the consistency guy, and
you've got these guys helping you, there's no reason you
should be able to walk into any draft and be
afraid of drafting rom Us for a certain spot. Ever,

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you should have the confidence, you should have the knowledge,
you should have the data that you can go through
and still win from whether you pick twelveth or pick
first three, pick seventh doesn't matter. Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Bob and BHS Cardinals sixteen popped in there, he he
she whoever loves it. We got Andrea Hi, everyone got
Albert what's up? Fellas? What's up? Got Chris the card Man?
What a crew? Appreciate you tuning in? She hit that
like and subscribe. You know, Jamar Chase seventeen touchdowns, seventeen

(07:05):
hundred yards. It's hard to turn your head on that
at all, you know, And I think that you hit
a point like when you're when your first pick's happening,
you got to grab somebody that you know you can
count on to be your league winner. And you know,
sometimes that means you have to reach like maybe maybe
you're in the back half and the guys like Jon
Jamar Chase, like these guys are gone, and you've got

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to reach, you know, somebody that you really like in
the second that you know who might not be there, Johnny,
Who's Who's somebody for you that you no matter where
the draft spot is, you can't leave without this year.

Speaker 6 (07:39):
One guy that I am like, really really uberly high
on and I feel like he can be this year's
Courtland Sutton is Calvin Ridley.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
And one of the reasons.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
Why like I really love Calvin Ridley is last year
he still got to a thousand yards with Mayo aka
Will Levis on the ball.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Uh you know, may Cy know our guy Frick throwing
in the ball.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
He was eighteenth in targets last year, and even with
really bad quarterback play, he still was able to get
to wide receiver twenty eight last year. And the Titans
last year they were bottom eight in passing yards per play.
I think that number obviously goes up with cam Ward
showing up now the Cashville.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
So for me, he's a guy that like saying it's
seventh round.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
If I can have a chance to get him, I
think he's got some high upside to be a wide
receiver two, high end wide receiver two.

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Maybe even better than that right there.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
But I'm all in everywhere I could possibly get Calvin
Ridley in drafts this year.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
I'm catching that check.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I mean, past two seasons over a thousand yards, you know,
and last year. You know, this is the crazy thing
about the wide receiver position. Wide receiver twenty eight on
the season. Put up a thousand yards last season. Like,
these offenses are getting crazy and it's I mean it's
fun for us to watch, right, it's fun for fantasy,
but you know, a thousand yards and really, like even

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at wide receiver twenty eight, you're not draft them at
twenty eight. You're drafting like he's wide receiver like thirty two,
you know, thirty seven. Like, you know, people are still
worried about the Titans. They're still worried about Ridley because
despite him putting up two thousand yard seasons the past two,
you know, two seasons, it doesn't feel like he did.

(09:18):
It feels like he did like a six to seven
hundred yard season last year. And I think it's because
the Titans and Levis were all so bad. But you know,
like that's the something you got to think about the
lens that people are looking for Johnny. I love that pick,
you know, especially at the cost because he's going to
be cheap for you. Joe, give me, give me a
good one. Who's there for you?

Speaker 4 (09:41):
All right? So we talked a little bit about this
one before the show. I think that this is becoming
a more commonplace thing. I've seen a lot of people
talk about it. I wish that they would stop. Yeah,
this person has been a perennial top ten player but
is not being drafted as one, at least at their position.
So for me, it's Alvin kam If you'll get Best
Ball rankings right now, he's going as RB nineteen. His

(10:04):
worst finish in his entire career is RB sixteen. If
you look at top ten finishes, all but two of
his years have been a top ten finish. So to
be able to get that in the third round, fourth round,
I really like that a lot. The other thing that's
interesting is so people were saying, hey, like, you know,
like running backs, you want to look at running backs

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that are going to be on a good team. They
are going to see the correlation of like, hey, like,
if you look at running back performance, you're gonna have
more carries when your team is winning games because you're
able to control the ball, control the clock, to all
those things. It doesn't really matter with Alvin Kamara, just
because of the receiving prospectus that he has. The other
thing I really like about Kamara, and I've said this

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a couple of weeks ago, if you look at Kellen Moore.
In the pace of play that his offense is run,
they are going to average sixty plus plays per game.
They don't have a lot of depth behind him. Yes,
they have some unproven players with Ken Dre Moore getting
a clean slit. They have have some rookies that they
brought in like Devin Neil that might be able to
make some noise. But everything's lining up to not having

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a good quarterback or an unproven running back or unproven
quarterback outside of Chris Olave's had health issues, Like where
are they doing in the receiver room. All things point
to Kamara having another good season. So I'll take him
all day, every day.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah, No, I percent behind you on that one. You know,
last year he was ninth in total Remember he was
ninth in total points and he missed three games, right,
his consistency was ninety three percent. He was up. He
literally ranked sixth inconsistency. The only people ahead of him

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gives Henry Bijon, Bucky Irvine or no, sorry, Josh Jacobs
and Kyra Willis. Yeah, and like you said, and he's
going at running back like seventeen.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, you know, in the in the the rookie quarterbacks
play into that too. I mean he's gonna have either
a rookie quarterback shutdown, he's gonna have a really like uh,
you know, a Spencer Rattler or something, or he's gonna
have his rookie quarterback and it's gonna be dump off city,
you know, like he's it's gonna be everything we want.

(12:14):
The only thing that you're worried about with Kamara, which
he's he's actually been pretty good on, like you said
about consistency, right his injury, Yeah, it's yeah, he plays,
you know, and when he gets tons of work, tons
of work. Love that pick, Bob, give us give us
another one for you maybe a little bit later in
the draft. Uh, let's go. No, I mean it can

(12:40):
be whoever, just give us another one maybe round three
on that. Uh that that you you got your targeting
really heavily this year.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
All right, let me let's talk about some undervalued players
and let's go to the running back position because we've
already talked about Kamara. But this is a guy that
I draft has draft. I have drafted every year the
last two years for sure, maybe three years. He is

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always always in the top ten in consistency. But he
always misses a few games. He also is the number
two running back on his team, and yet last year
he was eighty six percent consistent. As the real point.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
When you're talking about consistency for people that are unfamiliar
with that concept, like, what is what does a consistent
performance look like in your mind?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Excellent question, glad you asked. So. In a PPR format,
running backs and wide receivers are both at about eleven
points a game. Tight ends are at about eight and
a half. Quarterbacks non PPR doesn't matter. I PPR four
points were passing touchdowns is about twenty. This guy is

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eighty six percent consistent and has been over eighty percent
the last three years. His name is David Montgomery, and nobody.
No one picks this guy as their RB two in
every year. His consistency is RB one, and so round

(14:22):
what's he going?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
RB three, round five, round six? What So I can
get five people ahead of him, So whether it's three
rye three top wide receivers, maybe a tight end, maybe
a quarterback, and then I can take as my RB

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two David Montgomery, who's eighty percent consistent every year, as
long as if he can stay healthy for seventeen games. Like,
so he was on all my King's Classic teams, Like
I mean it, he was on most of my teams.
I mean maybe one or two I didn't sneaky man.

(15:07):
But this guy every year is that mid fifth sixth
round guy that I sit there and whoops he fell
to me again. Boom, there it goes.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
He's just my personal favorite. He's not you know, he's
not gonna score twenty five thirty points in a game.
He's not because he's got Jamior Gibbs. But what he
will do is score you fifteen a week every week
as your RB two. And if you can get that
kids in the fifth or sixth round, it's it's not

(15:41):
even fair, not even.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
That dig it.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, I've got Lewis in here.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
RJ.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Harvey, which is another question mark. You know, the RJ.
Harvey's rise has been crazy. Uh. But obviously with the JK.
Dobbins thing, you got a little reprieve. But you know,
then there is the question mark of AK Dobbins. What
you might get too later all of you amazing people
from Chef to TPTV.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Oh that was your wife, friend, that's your wife. Me
your wife is chef TB TV.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Count My wife has already gone to bed and is
probably sitting in there reading a book like yeh me,
no mind, Johnny, give us another one, man, Let's let's
let's let it light up. Give us another one.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
Uh, this one here, man, this is actually a rookie
for me that I'm looking at right. Yeah, And I'm
doing it not for Frick, But I just I believe
in this guy. I believe in Caleb Johnson, and I
believe in what the Pittsburgh Steelers have got going on. Man,
as far as running the ball, like we know what
it is. We know Tom's gonna run his guys into
the ground.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
Nagie Harris is gone two hundred and sixty three carries
just floating around out there. You're talking about volume a
little bit earlier on Jalen Warren. I don't think he's
seen over one hundred and twenty five carries his entire
career at Pittsburgh. And the other part about it is
this offensive line, Like they're young, and I don't want
to be late for my team, and if I can

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cash in on a guy like Caleb, like Caleb Johnson
who's been going, uh, he's been going what is this here?
Like running back, like right around the seventh round. He's
somebody I think later on in the season can pay huge,
huge death dividends. Uh, you know for you you talked
about like the flex position or even possibly getting to

(17:34):
a running back too. That's a guy that, like I'm
trying to leave every single draft with and I'm hoping,
uh he doesn't steam steam up towards uh, towards August,
but uh, that's my guy. And then again man back
to the offensive line average age of twenty four. Everything
can come together for this group. Aaron Rodgers, they've talked about, uh,

(17:54):
you know, want to utilize the short passing game, obviously
play action.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
So Caleb Johnson, Uh, I'll take a shot on him
for sure.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
Man to leave the draft without with him.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
All right?

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Love that?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
I mean, I look, rookies are I love rookies, especially
rookie wide receivers. Here's the thing about you see, you
know you know where that belt came from behind me
over there right Uh, And we'll make I gat complain. Well,

(18:27):
we'll talk about the xbox a second. But you know, uh,
I actually drafted Christian McCaffrey first in that league and
then took the hit right because he didn't play. And
so you want to know how one I drafted rookie
wide receivers. I had bt J, I had Lad McConkie,
I had Xavier Legette, and I took them all late,

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you know, and so by the time I got to
the end of the season, they were popping, you know.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
And uh, he's talking about rookie n I know. I agree.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Rookie running back are different. Rookie running backs are different.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
They're different.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
But I think like he's like, he's probably the one
that cost you the least at this point, like between Hampton, I.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Don't know about the least. If he's RB twenty five,
he's not costing me the leavest.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
Brompton, Hampton and RJ. Harvey, those guys are going ahead.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Him, right Yeah probably, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
So I mean that, But no, I'm just yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Hey, guys on this show, it's okay to disagree.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, I am right.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Same, just for some just for some context for the
people that are listening, watching whatever. So we're looking at
the RB rankings, so as far as rookies go, So
gent's RB five, then you jump down to Amari and
Hampton RB fifteen, which somebody that's not going to be
the starter at the.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Beginning of the season four two heavily steep.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I have R. J. Harvey at RB twenty, Henderson RB
twenty one, Judkins RB twenty four, Caleb Johnson RB twe Judkins.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I that now. Now you're speaking my language.
You talk my language, Bob Judkins also ahead of it Henderson.
It's weird that the rankings have Henderson a little bit
ahead of Judkins. In most drafts I've seen, he's gone later.
But in your wide receiver heavy like your drafts where

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you go wide receiver heavy and maybe you take Chase
maybe you know you stack wide receivers for your you
go zero RB. Right, if I go zero RB like
those two guys like Henderson, Judkins, like maybe even a
Johnson like, but I would rather have like a I
would rather have a Manty personally, but like you know,
they're in that same tier. But like those guys will

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be there after you get three to four stud wide receivers,
So you know, I don't hate that either.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
I do think that's slightly skewed because it's like the
rankings and like the ADP we have, right, now is
primarily best ball. So Henderson definitely has that like best
ball upside that you can afford for him to not
really do anything, but he's the kind of player that
could break it for twenty five. So that's probably a
little bit reflected in the rankings. I think that I
would expect him to fall a little bit in a

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redraft scenario just because he's more of the pass catcher
to Ramandre Stevenson. So that that would be my hypothesis on.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
That Remandre's washed. Chuck usually goes let upter Caleb Chef said,
then it goes Scat and Tutin. Now those two guys
are people that I'm I'm not I'm not going near personally,
but so you know, speaking of the King's Classic, speaking
of drafts, well, we talked, we talked about it for

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a second.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Okay, huh didn't Joe get the answer?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Sure we can.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
We can.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Let Joe answer real quick. Joe, give me one more.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Hold on.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
I got to get my belt that I have too.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Okay, red hard belt.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah this, I won the Kids Classic last year. Yeah,
we drafted the Crayon.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Beat out your eight year old nephew.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
And they've never heard of football, but you know it
was fine. So my second guy for this year is uh,
I'm gonna keep this one quick, says Jacoby Myers. If
you look last year, he had one hundred and twenty
nine targets last year, right, he had no quarterback game.
Everybody's foaming at the mouth for Brock Bowers, but Jacoby's

(22:29):
that dude. I think that Gino Smith. He's a really
good fit for this offense. Actually, Pete Carroll knows what
he can do, and they got to throw the ball
to somebody other than Bowers. He's going to be your
second target option, but he is capable of like being
a boundary receiver, can move him around. If you look
at people that have one hundred and twenty nine targets,

(22:50):
they're probably supposed to be a top twenty four receiver.
He's going as wide receiver forty. So for me, that's
like somebody that you can have like a hot start
to you trade it from somebody that struggled. He's that
like not sexy pick, but he can do some good.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
May I read from page one hundred and consistency. Please
this wide receiver who you just spoke of the last
three years has ranked twenty second, twenty ninth, and twenty
eighth in consistency. That means he's been a wide receiver
two once, wide receiver three twice in three years. I

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guarantee you if you went through every wide receiver, you
might find maybe fifteen of them that have done that
or higher. Some of them have failed in one of
those years. They may have had seventy or eighty For
Jakobe Meers every year. And then his total points ranked nineteenth,
twenty fourth, twenty eighth, like you said, and the guy's
going forty second again. He's he is the David Montgomery

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of wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, that's a great call.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
That's awesome. I love that.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
I love I mean, I gotta put it down.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Let's see that he's map draft. Uh got some love
over on Twitter more man, I love the energy on
the stream. And then Amber, speaking of drafts, Bob and
I have a date at the expert Leagus draft. The
f s g A to take you down, sir. That'll
be fun.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Is gonna draft against me?

Speaker 2 (24:18):
I guess so.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I'm trapping hard. She's ready. We talked about the Ambers.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
I'm not saying a word the rest of the show.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
It doesn't have to be me.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Every time I got some, I got some some some.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Just side me because I'm going to harass.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
All right, So Amber, you know you should pick here,
she said, Tang busted myself out, all right. So if
you're enjoying the stream one, Bob's awesome. These guys are awesome,
and we will all in six weeks be at the
Fantasy Football Expo and Can't know Hio seven weeks, seven

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weeks August, we're gonna be at the at the NFL
Hall of Fame. Can't Ohio for the Fantasy Football Expo,
and it is an absolute blast. You guys need to
check it out. You need to be there. I'm gonna
let Bob say more right after this video.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
You have not want to miss this. I'm gonave you
out there right now. I got two questions for you.
Do you play fantasy football? And have you ever been
to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. If your answer
is yes and no, there's absolutely zero reasons that you
should not be at that event because we are all
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(26:16):
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Tyler will be that, I guarantee it. But come to
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will be there again as a non champion. I'm going

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to make it someday, damn it. Anyway, we have a
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Speaker 5 (29:04):
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Speaker 2 (29:51):
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And of course we draft like crazy, we do fantasy football.
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Speaker 4 (30:20):
I think something to point out about it. Tyler too
is it's like and this was my first expo was
last year, and I think there's this misconception of like, oh,
like I don't create content, like I don't do these things,
like the expo is not for me. Like I had
a blast last year. I made a lot of friends,
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We were pretty much together the whole weekend that I
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hung out with like the crew here and now I'm
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So it's it's really not just for creators, not just
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it's it's a very open environment and all those people
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carry belts around the whole time.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Speaking of draft, speaking of fantasy football, speaking of the
ex bo back to what we're all excited about, and
now we're gonna talk sleepers, sleepers, the guys that you
need to get that nobody else is thinking about. Johnny
Man start us out, who number one sleeper this season?

Speaker 6 (31:27):
Well, no, cap, it was literally what Joe was just
talking about. Jacoby Myers was the guy that I had
went with. That was literally the guy that was Yeah,
that was one of the guys. But I'll pivot to
I'll pivot to another guy that he might not have
a lot of value initially up front, but it's somebody
that I think is going to be able to provide
some value for you later on, uh later on in

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the season.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
And that's Jordan Mason.

Speaker 6 (31:51):
And one of the reasons why like I'm looking at
Jordan Mason later on in draft.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Aaron Jones is one of the oldest running back.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
Actually, I think he is the oldest running back in
the n f He just came off of three hundred
touches last year and there's still one hundred and twenty
years so touches potentially out there for Jordan Mason.

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Before McCaffrey went down.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
Last year, he was ninth in the league in rushing
in the San Francisco offense, So there is a possibility
that he could give you some upside with an Aaron
Jones injury. Aaron Jones, I think he's only played seventeen
games two times in his eight year career. So for me,
that's a guy that you know later on in drafts,
depending on obviously the size of your the size of

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your league. That's a guy that I'm looking at with
a little bit of potential upside later on.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
The Other thing that's interesting about Aaron Jones is that
he's one of those guys that he might not miss
games per se, but like he misses like three quarters
of the game, yes, which is like very frustrating. So
you look at the a lot like the sheet and
it's like, oh, yeah, he played like sixteen games, but
I remember last season it was like what happened to him?
He had like thirty yards in the first drive and

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then just vanished.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Then he's gone, yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's and that's
like that offense man like Kevin O'Connell, like I'm just
I'm in love with I'm in love with I'm in
love with everything he does, man, Like you know, so
the lead with some Vikings players is definitely one of
the things that's on my agenda.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Man, love it, love it.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
That's a that's a LOLd one.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
He is not on my list.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
But I will take notes. I will take notes. I'm
write it on my sheet of paper. Now, all right, Joe,
give us a sleeper.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
All right?

Speaker 4 (33:27):
So I don't know why this guy is a sleeper
fuddy is. I think part of it is because of
Matt Harmon and the awesome stuff that he does. But
because of it, like fantasy football, people get all like
bricked up about charts and like forget like sometimes like
football is just about what's happening on the field. So

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my my sleeper for the day is Michael Pittman Junior.
If you look at the Indianapolis Colts, so everybody's like, well,
what's gonna happen? Oh, like obviously, like now they have
Tyler Warren. Oh, like they have like this darling Josh Downs,
who's this third year guy. But let's not forget Michael Pittman.
If you look at the last four years, he's cleared
one hundred targets each of the last four and twenty

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twenty three when he didn't have a broken back, he
had one hundred and fifty six targets, right, so it's
like he still had one hundred and eleven with a
broken back. Let me just remind you again, he broke
his back last year and he had played sixteen games.
One hundred eleven targets was courtesy of Anthony Richardson had
a tough year. So we have all this stuff happening

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with oh, Josh Downs, this war and that, but it's
like Pittman's still there. He's twenty seven years old, he's
wide receiver fifty one right now? Wow, Like what are
we doing here? Like there's no risk to drafting him
all upside and if it's like oh, like he's washed,
the injuries don't work out, like you're not burning capital.
But the guys around him Cooper cup missed me with

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that keyon Coleman don't believe it. Like Rashaw Bateman like yeah,
your next team you might be able to do something.
Christian Kirk like no, thank you. So it's like, yeah,
like give me any of those guys, Like it's like
no way, I'm taking Pittman every time.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
So that question free question of chat. Who's going to
be throwing him the football?

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Joe Daniel Jones, Who's gonna be probably a really good
quarterback in that system.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Because he can run better than Richards.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
But I think that it fits to a skill set
better like than what was happening with the Giants. So
it's like, is he gonna be a good real life quarterback? No,
but Daniel Jones does run the ball, So he does. Yeah,
you're in a.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Two quarterback league. Daniel Jones is a great third quarterback pick. Yeah,
because he might with his legs in the fact that
the cold stink will be certainly following them around.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
I need to pull up the stat but I got
a really interesting Daniel Jones staff for Brent. I just
need to pull it up.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I wasn't expecting to talk about him.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
It's like the Spanish Inquisition.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Nobody amazing, right.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
So the if you look at player profilers kind of
like advanced stats, Daniel Jones was actually the highest rated
accuracy against man in zone. The problem is.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Four yards that and.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
He had he had nobody to really throw it to.
But if you look at like his catchup pass rate
seventy four percent, seventeenth in the league. So I think
he's one of those people that, like, from a dynasty perspective,
I would be trying to buy Daniel Jones. Like, I know,
we're not really doing the dynasty thing today, but he's
he's a player whose value is going to increase.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
How is he now twenty eight thirty?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Let's see, he is twenty eight, just turned twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, so he's not that old. I mean, yeah, you're
right from a dynasty perspective. Yeah, give somebody a bag
of rocks on a you know, six back, you'd probably
kidding for.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Jeff said, Jones and Leonard can have a roll off
the bat to preserve a rich They could be goal
on running backs for Indy.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
I mean maybe.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
So all right, Bob, give us your sleeper.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Who is it?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I'm taking notes. I'm gonna win the King's Classic.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Well, first off, the Colts are going to tank for Arch,
so they have another man ning. That's what I feel.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
He's not coming out till twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
I don't think, Okay, they'll take the next year until
they get him him. All right, So I'm gonna ask
you guys, this question. Other than t Higgins and Jamar Chase,
what other team has two wide receivers ADP in the top.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Twenty twenty wide receivers.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Oh, the well, the Rams, Yeah, the Rams, Yeah, Rams.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Yeah. Where's Matthew Stafford?

Speaker 5 (37:49):
Yes, yes, folks, you.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Want to talk about a sleeper quarterback. I mean you're
drafting him as your QB two, no question. You're gonna
get him twelfth round, thirteenth round, and he could end
the year in the top twelve total points and consistency.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Now last year later than that man might might he's.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Quarterback twenty four on Underdog.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, so he's he almost has fell out of the
QB two. And this guy has two wide receivers with
Defonte Adams and Pukakua with an ADP in the top twenty.
And yet this guy is right that far down. How
does that happen? But that's the way it is. Nobody

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likes the old guys.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, it's the old guys. It's the age cliff narrative.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
It is your damn straight it is. If it's not
a shiny new toy, we ain't taking him.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Well.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
I think the other thing with Staffer two's he doesn't
have that rushing upside.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
He doesn't either grow.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Right for sure, right, But I think like if you
think about like something that I really like that that
Andrew Cooper does with his tight ends. He says, like
the yin and the yang that has the high upside
you have like the safe play. Like if you think
about like your quarterback construction like that, Like Matt Stafford
is that perfect person to be like, hey, like I
need something this week. He's going to give you that.

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He's not going to have like a three point game exactly.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, that's where he comes into play now. Like I said,
last year, his consistency, eh, okay, not great, but gotta
remember Cooper cup missed a lot, Pukakua missed a lot.
They had to rely on Kyiner Williams running the ball
a lot, so it wasn't a typical year. But they
went out and got Defonte Adams to go on the
other side of pukah I don't know who plays tight end,

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might be Tyler Higbee again, but you got Kyron Williams
who still run the ball well.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
I mean, I mean he's still almost three for four
thousand yards and was still exactly if he's if he's twenty.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Four DRAMs defense is not very good. They play in
the division with the forty nine ers, the Seahawks. You know, Cardinals,
you can put up some points. They're gonna put up
some air. Again, I'm probably gonna draft him as my
QB two every league all the well I think I'm doing.
I was doing a mock draft for Chicago for this weekend,

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and yeah, I think Stafford was like fifteenth round.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, I mean, to your point, to your point, Stafford,
this is the first year really that Stafford has had
another go up and get it in the red zone tie,
Like he hasn't had that since Calvin Johnson, you know
what I mean, Like, he hasn't told a big guy
that he can get it up to in the end zone.

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He's had a lot of these slot guys hit him
in the gaps, you know, move him around. Now he's
gonna have somebody that he can throw that corner route to.
They can go up with some hands and bring it down,
which is is a bonus because we know we've seen it.
He's good that way, right, And so it was a
good offset because I felt like with Pooka and Cup
they had a very similar tandem, right, like very similar players,

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and uh, it gave him a difference. I love that take,
and he's basically free.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
The other thing too, is Stafford is one of the
best play action pass quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
Oh yeah, Iran.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Williams running the ball as well as he does. Man,
that just opens it up to let them just you know,
it just freeze free so much up. When Williams is
running well, and I expect him to do well, I
don't know if they're going to give him the money
before the year starts. If they don't, because Williams is

(41:39):
gonna go out there and bus his butt and get
the money, get paid. And yeah, I mean which money.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Hey, but I hope he gets the money.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Well again, I don't know if he's gonna get you
know what he hopes to get, but he's gonna get
a hell a lot more than he's making right now.
I guarantee that.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah, well that's for sure. Johnny, you got another sleeper
for us tonight.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (42:00):
Man, somebody you said that was washed And I think
Frick might have been with me on this one, but
Remandre Stevenson later on later on.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
I agree. I agree.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
Later on later on here and you know, obviously I
got my stuff here with me.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Man, So later on, like first week, fab.

Speaker 6 (42:23):
I mean, he's going double digit rounds right now, right,
and if hey like and if we're approaching it, uh
attacking wide receivers the way that you know, the way
you were talking about earlier, these are definitely some options
here later on. So obviously the Patriots were really bad
last year, Madre was still a top twelve back in
uh you know, forced forced misstackles last year for the Pats.

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He's still gonna get carries, for sure. Trayvon Henderson, obviously
he's gonna be He's gonna be playing in the passing
game for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Man.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
But he still had seven touchdowns last year.

Speaker 6 (42:55):
And if you can get this guy like in the
tenth round, man, like again, like we're talking about the
round like for most most rosters are filled at that point,
I'm willing to take a stab on a guy like
that in double digit rounds. It's still gonna be on
the field. And if you believe the Patriots are gonna
be improving, I'll take him as a flex play.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Man or he's a handcuff.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
Yeah, either or either or because like with Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
What I would do if I'm just gonna get him
as five rounds later as the handcuff.

Speaker 6 (43:26):
Right, it's it's and again it's a cheaper option. And
you're right, like the handcuff piece, and it's he's somebody
who he's gonna play.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
It's not every day you handcuff your RB one t
RB two.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
But I'm gonna battle back for a second. Okay, look
all right, I'm out on Remandre. And this is why,
this is why, Okay, underperforming Antonio Gibson goes there last
year and outperforms him in almost every single metric. Remandre

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hasn't averaged over four yards of carrie in the last
two years. Last year, Antonio Gibson, who started to take
work from him, averaged over four yards of carry on
the season with and he had one hundred and twenty
touches last year, one hundred and twenty touches, five hundred
and thirty yards. So when you see and we saw
it towards if you see Antonio Gibson starting to take

(44:20):
work right, and neither one of those running backs are
really healthy. But to say like he's guaran, I don't
think he's even guaranteed. Number two, I don't think he's guaranteed.
Number two, I think you have you have. You have
Treveon Henderson, who averaged over seven yards almost a Carrie
in freaking Ohio State, coming in in that offense. And
we know, we know that the new coach loves to

(44:43):
run the football right, so it's possible. But like you know,
I still think that there's people later that I want
over him, even if it's late wide receiver grabs, if
it's other handcuffs. I mean, you probably have Tony Pollard
in the same range. I don't know for sure if
he's but I imagine it's pretty close. But you know,
like I'm not if Antonio Gibson's out performing them, I'm

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not in well a couple of things, Like I'll say
number one, they gave him the bag last year, so
like he's he's there.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
So there's that part of it. And that's and I
know you don't like it. I don't. I'm not a
Remindre Stevenson fan.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
I'm just look.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Like, hey, like here, like here's some val like here's
some value like round that it's somebody that you can
play and you can get flex. You can get flex
out of them. And the other part of it. I
would say too, is the play calling last year, and
like what they've done to like upgrade the offensive line.
I think that's another element of things that like you
got to take it.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
Like they did upgrade the offensive line.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
I'm not going to go all in on Steph Diggs,
but like they do obviously now have somebody else to
play wide receivers. So I don't think it's as bad
as you think, but it's probably not as good as
you as it used to be either.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
The one thing that does give me hope is Rabel.
Rabel like to establish the run. I like that. I
just think he's it's gonna lean more Travion. I think
you're gonna get if it's best ball. I don't mind it.
I think you're just gonna go. But I to your point,
we are entering a league or we have seen this
the league kind of shift right where you get two

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running backs, like you get two people that are that
are putting up numbers. You know, you get your your
Manty and Gibbs. You know you get you get these tandems. Yeah,
and and so I think a lot of people are
doing that to give weight. So any given we we
saw Remandre punch some crucial ones in you know, towards
the end of the season there. So I mean it's
I think, I mean late. It's not, it's not, it's

(46:39):
not a bad sleeper. I've just I there's an interloathing here.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
Oh I hate listen. I hate the Patriots, bro, I
hate them.

Speaker 6 (46:48):
So for me to even go through this process and
even say these words is gross to me. But like
the last thing I'll leave you with, uh, he was
hit on fifty six percent of his carries behind the
line of scrima. It's like that number has that number
has to improve this year with what they did on.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
The offensive line. Man, like it has to improve.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Well, I hope, So I hope.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
So all right, so we're gonna we're gonna move on
from Sleepers. It's and it's kind of still sleepers. But
we've got we've got about twelve, you know, fifteen twelve
twelve to fifteen minutes here left in the show. So
I want to try to get into, uh, you know,
our our next section, which is saviors. These are people
that you need to draft and maybe you're gonna let

(47:30):
them ride the bench, or maybe they're gonna provide for
you here or there. But the idea is in the
second half of the season, you're gonna see a huge
uptick and they could be league winners for you or
maybe people even that you're targeting early in waivers. Right
uh after our first few weeks, you know, to to
where you can, you know, you'll have that at the
end of the season to win for you. And we

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see it every year. Somebody eventually takes over, you know,
every like last year. I mean, everybody was so high
on this z Moss in the Bengals that he was
being drafted before Chase Brown, which was absolutely crazy. But
if you and Bob, you're a smart one. If you
took Chase Brown and you took him late and you
held him, it wasn't very long at all before he

(48:15):
started giving you the numbers you hope for. And you
know a lot of people are talking about that this
year with like somebody like Trey Benson even, you know,
So these are the type players and running backs. Running
back is a key position, I think in this in
this section of the conversation because it is the most
injury prone position. But you know, even with our receivers,
we do see people start to tick up, start to

(48:38):
make that sophomore jumper start to make that late season
rise as the quarterback gets more comfortable. So you know,
Bob for you, and who's somebody that you think is
going to provide that push towards the end of the season.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
So I'm going to talk about too. One of them
is obvious, but the other one is it's going to
take probably a raid or something or somebody to get
hurt and you have to change teams.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
Were there?

Speaker 1 (49:04):
So the first one is a gentleman last year who
is twenty fifth in total points so just outside RB two,
twenty fifth in consistency as well, but he's the number
two running back on his team, and that is Zach Sharbina.
As much as Kenneth Walker is by far the more
talented running back, he has absolutely made a glass. Absolutely

(49:31):
he's already hurt in OTAs. How the hell do you
get hurt in OTAs.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
You're walking up the steps today?

Speaker 5 (49:38):
So I can't.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
I broke a rib sneezy the other day non football
related injury?

Speaker 5 (49:46):
Is that real?

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Did you really break a rib sneezing?

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Okay, let's say Bob, but probable.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
As much as I love Kenneth Walker, as much as
I love the fact that they got Clinton Koobia as
their coach, you know, their O C or whatever. This
guy loves a runna ball. If Kenneth Walker could stay
healthy for fifteen games, he would be top ten. But
he can't. He just can't. And like I said, I

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love this guy to death. Last year, you know he
was He was eighty two nine clutch games out of eleven,
so that means he missed six games. He's already got hurt.
No tas and charbon As just sitting back there. Nobody's
drafting him unless you draft Kenneth Walker. He's RB thirty

(50:40):
four eightyp wise. So if you want to go get
Kenneth Walker, go do it. But by all means, make
sure you get Charbonnay at least not more than maybe
two or three rounds later, because somebody will snatch him up.
The other guy was the guy that got replaced by
a rookie last year even though he was I think

(51:04):
top twelve in Fantasy the year before. And that is
Rashad White got replaced by a rookie who had a
better year, but Rashad White was still twenty first in
total points sixty seven percent consistency, which was again top twenty.
There's already talk about Tampa Bay possibly trading him off

(51:27):
to somebody who loses a star running back. There's talk
about him being traded to the Cowboys because they're not
sure that Joe Bonte Williams is the man, which we
all know he isn't. If you can get him now
in drafts and all you Scott Fish bowlers, I'm talking
to you.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Oh my drafts on Sunday, on say on Sunday too,
because I.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Grab him because he is very talented young man. Bucky Irving. Okay,
he might be more talented. Maybe he is. He curely
had a better year, But I just don't know what's
going to happen there. But the rumors are already starting
to float that Dallas might be thinking about going after him.

(52:16):
If Tampa, Bacon and them can work out a deal,
if he can go to Dallas and he's the number one,
you could see him do what he did two years ago,
which was the top twelve. That's my that could be
one of your savers.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Now.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
You know, if you trade him now, by the time
you get your draft season in August, of course that's changed.
But for you, Scott Fishbowlers might be worth you know,
a twelfth round pick, thirteenth round pick somewhere in there.
So you don't get voice for blocking Ken Scott Fish
does a lot of weird shit, but block.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
He might.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Now that we've talked about it, you've spoken into existence.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Wins the bro It was a solid what about you, Joe?

Speaker 4 (53:05):
All right, so let's dig deep into the archives. So
I hate that we're talking so much about the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
But nobody's talking about the Patriots except Johnny. Well, there
was no there was no so much of anything.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
It was just talking about Steeler fans need to stick together.
So the player that I think is going to provide
you that later season value Stefan digs. So people are
really banking on this day.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I have a question, what did have to do with
the Steelers existence?

Speaker 5 (53:41):
Really?

Speaker 4 (53:43):
She did us out of glory. But so he's wide
receiver forty five right now. And if you look at
what he did last year before he got hurt, he
had pictures on the boat. Yeah, so well yeah, hey, well,
now never hurt anybody.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
It's who's snorting pink coke? Now?

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Everyone?

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Okay, yeah, all your friends are doing it.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
My coke is always white, really really good feels on
this call.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Okay, Mexican Coca cola delicious, But if you look, I
mean he popped most weeks when he was in Houston
before the injury. He got paid in New England. If
you are saying that Drake May is going to take
the step forward in year two, they paid him to
be the number one. People are so charged up about

(54:34):
rookie fever. Kyle Williams is like the fifth receiver on
the depth chart right now, and they've already slated him
in as like wide receiver crazy right, So it's like,
if you look at drafts right now, h Kyle Williams
is wide receiver fifty eight. He's only ten or fifteen.
He's thirteen picks behind Digs right now. Digs when he
gets when he gets healthy enough, he's probably gonna start slow.

(54:56):
He's probably gonna need to get up to speed because
of the injury. But once he does, going to force
the ball to him because he's gonna get mad and
throw a tantrum if he doesn't. And who else are
they going to throw it to? Hunter Henry? He led
the team in targets last year.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Yes, yes, they're gonna reminder.

Speaker 5 (55:14):
Checked out. He had thirty three last year.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Man, come on, you guys ignoring. I mean, so last year,
you know, before he got hurt, he was seventy five
percent consistent in the first eight games.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
He was six out of.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Eight in Houston with Nico Collins. So yeah, he caught
the ball. So you're right, he's the only one there.
I mean, I have him in my undervalue in the book,
So I'm all in and I haven't even read late,
especially after the bullshit on the on the boat now
like oh, he's got to get suspended blah blah blah

(55:51):
blah blah, like whatever he was handing out psticks.

Speaker 4 (55:55):
Come on, there's so many people that need to be
suspended that still want So it's like he's like the
many people down the list, like they haven't even figured
out what they did with like Jamison Williams and Rashid
Rice yet. So like he's got like two more seasons still.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
Yeah, I st't worry about whether should door Sanders.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Is a right that's about to say, all right, make
sure you hit that like button that's subscribe button, Johnny Man,
let us know what's up.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
Last one for me? Uh, going to Cleveland uh with
Cedric Tillman. Oh yeah, yeah, see finally, man, finally I
got your blessing.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
Man, I can go to Mann.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Damn trying.

Speaker 6 (56:31):
Maybe No, like Cedric Tillman Man, he was crushing it
last year before he got hurt. And the Browns, like
I know, we all have, like I know what they
want to do. We all know they want to run
the ball. But last year they actually I'm pretty sure
they were in the top two or top three at
pass attempts last year, and it's probably gonna be something
very similar for him again this year. They're probably going

(56:52):
to be leading the league in passing attempts due to
game script. Uh So for me, Cedric Tillman is a
guy that I'm cool with, absolutely taking a stab on
him right now. Looks like he's going in almost like
the fourteenth round of drafts. So he's a guy that
like you can hang on to, you can see what happens.
We don't know about Jerry Judy. We don't know about

(57:13):
the quarterback situation.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Is it your door? Is it Joe Flacco?

Speaker 6 (57:16):
Who's gonna be Oh my god, yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
You got he's got bigger hands than me. I can't
say nothing.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
Yeah, but I mean, he was a guy that was
absolutely eating up targets before the injuries and stuff. Man,
So yeah, so give me, give me a flyer on
Cedric Tillman in round fourteen, Round fifteen, and uh, let's
see what happens after week six.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Let me chime in from page one oh five. The
consistency last year in weeks one through six, Cedric Tillman
earned three point four total fantasy points. Listen to me again,
three point four total fantasy points in six weeks. When
he got the chance in week seven through nine, he

(58:02):
was the number one wide receiver with sixty four and
a half points in those three weeks, and then they
changed quarterbacks again and he never got a chance to
do it. You are on correct. This kid is talented.
And if they get a real quarterback, I don't care
if it's Flacco or who it is, they get somebody
that has enough talent to get him the ball. Tilman

(58:24):
does a stud and he is such a late pick,
like practically free.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
Shout out you two you might be let's go.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Oh, let me speaking of you to you? Is Jalen
Hyatt going to do anything this year?

Speaker 4 (58:39):
You think he's gonna be on the team after camp.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
I don't know that was the question, you pony man.
I guess they were right. Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (58:49):
Here's the thing. What does what is the one thing
that Russell Wilson does well?

Speaker 5 (58:53):
Moon ball?

Speaker 4 (58:54):
What is the one thing that Jalen Hyatt does well?
Run fast than a straight line match made in Heaven?

Speaker 5 (59:01):
Look?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
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