November 7, 2025 • 44 mins
Football Friday!
John and Trey look at some of the big storylines around the NFL and college football.
Plus: where we see some of the big quarterbacks in the NFL, three years from now. The three-year index!
John and Trey look at some of the big storylines around the NFL and college football.
Plus: where we see some of the big quarterbacks in the NFL, three years from now. The three-year index!
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Speaker 1 (00:44):
Probably? Are we still coasting on it. I've seen it
a couple of times.
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It's the wrong call.
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Speaker 1 (01:09):
Some radio to do. Oh it's a football Friday, our
favorite kind of friday. Here, Yes, earned game on. It's
John Ellis, It's Trey Paully, Walnuts falcom As. We're getting
you primed and ready for a big weekend of college football,
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hear from you today. Eight six four two four zero
five four eight zero Big it is the role call Sean.
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We want to hear from you as well. Let's tee
up the big Question of the day, brought to you
by our friends at Ingles Markets. I heard on social
media today there was a little bit on CBS Sports
his feed about Matt Ryan and Tony Romo debating what
would you rather have an elite offensive line like best
in the league or elite receivers. You got to pick one.
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Elite receivers, average offensive line or average you know, mega
cheeks receivers and a great offensive line zero five four
eight zero.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So I can be the Eagles or I can be
the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yes, them's your choices right there. It is an interesting
debate and they had different opinions. I know that Ryan,
Matt Ryan took a few minutes and thought about it,
and then he was like, oh, I got to pick one.
Give me the elite receivers because I can get that
ball out quickly to Julio Jones or other players that
he had right and they can take you to the house.
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And then Romo brought up a great explanation as to
why that didn't work for him. He was talking about
a season back in twenty ten where we're coming into
this season feeling good about the skill position players we've got,
obviously Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, feeling really good about that.
And they said the first preseason game, he took a
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snap and through a quick slant and he got hit
from behind on a quick slant and he was like,
I've never been hit like that on a quick slant,
and it just wore him down throughout that season.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Have to side with Romo.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I think I like, I get you.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And we've seen teams before like Cam Newton MVP twenty fifteen.
They had nothing other than Greg Olsen to throw to.
Nothing of substance, I mean, average wide receivers, Ted Ginn,
Corey Brown, Jericho Kattrie very good players, but nothing that
would signal Hall of Fame talent, elite. But they had
a great offensive line and they had a great running game.
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That's the formula I would follow even in today's NFL,
because I mean you kind of look at what happens
with Cincinnati right now, and look the defense, right the
Bengals defensive side. I mean, the defense is what it is,
but there's no consistency with that team, even though you've
got Chase, you've got Higgins. Yeah, because like.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Thingos would have been a better instead of the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, the ban Yeah, for like the fifth consecutive year,
they have neglected to address the trenchets. Even on the
offensive side of the ball. They thought they had it right,
you know, Amarius Mims, Yeah, bringing Carris as the center
and these fine players, but as a whole unit, they've
just neglected to build it right. Whereas they give all
these you know, chess pieces for their quarterbacks to play with.
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Now it's Joe Flacco, it was Joe Burrow, and the
results are decent, but there's no consistency in rhythm to
their offense. I'd rather have an elite quarterback with an
elite offensive line who can elevate the play of receivers
around them, and instead some receivers or some quarterbacks I
should say, would tell you, no, give me the elate
weapons and I will figure out the rest of the
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slop in front of me. There is nothing worse, as
evidenced by the game last night that we'll get into
Thursday night. Football might be jumping the shark. Although, yeah,
if it's slop, I'm gonna turn in because it's football.
That game last night is a good example of if
you have no offensive line, and even if you have
a stud like brock Powers, yeah, you don't have any
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time to do anything. It was he It was rancid,
it was brutal.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, well, I look no further than Tom Brady and
the Patriots had a line where he could sit back
there and eat a full breakfast if you wanted to,
and nobody could touch him. It felt like, and you
give you give pretty much any quarterback. I feel like
a little bit of time in the NFL that could
probably make a play. But you give somebody like a
Tom Brady time and he's just gonna pick you apart.
It doesn't matter if it's you know, Billy from Greer
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running routes. He's gonna he's gonna find him open. And
Billy and Neil that's your two receivers. You got Tom
Brady throwing to you, they're gonna score. But also it
opens up your running game. And two, you want to
talk about longevity. That's part of why I think Brady
plays so long as Oh yeah, if you don't touch him,
he doesn't take a whole lot of Sax's body doesn't
take a beat.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, he was always smart about if there was pressure
to get down right, absorb any type of unnecessary hits
to his legs or to his upper body. And he
played it an error where there was more I guess
targeting allowed when it came out. Yeah, hitting the quarterback,
So you had to be smart about it. Speaking of
last night, we got to talk about it. We got
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the pick, right, did we both pick Denver? I think
we did.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I think I went with the Raiders, He went with
the Raiders. Did go with the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You weren't far off. I thought.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I was like, maybe it's time that Runcos come down
a little bit, didn't I.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Al Michael and Kirk Herbstreet with his dog calling last
night's game. I think the dog might have fallen asleep
around the third quarter now probably wanted to fall asleep
ten to seven, which is, by the way, the more
you know here on game on the lowest scoring game
in the NFL this season, and it came in prime time.
And look, I think we were real desperate for some
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football last night, especially those that don't have ESPN access
right now, which there's more on that story we're looking at,
you know, in about twelve fourteen, sixteen hours from now,
another great college football slate on ESPN on ABC ACC
SEC network will be available to those that don't have
YouTube TV. But those that do, like me, we're sitting
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there thinking, oh my gosh, here's another Saturday that's going
to be slim pickens. Yeah, and that's what brought me
to last night's game. I've got prime video. I know
you do too, and we were looking forward to seeing
some kind of But it's been real clear the last
couple of weeks that you know, some of these Thursday
night games are good, but most of them are slop.
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They are it's going to be that way. It's a
short week. These are teams that are coming off games
just from a few days prior to have a short
week of practice, a short week of specific game install
for that week, and does feel like preseason football at times.
I'm gonna tell you something. I was dming Quincy Avery
last night, and I think he's going to be on
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the show here with us next week. But Quincy, you
know the story. You've heard him on our show a
few times. And he's a quarterback coach on the private side,
private quarterback coach for you know guys like Jordan Love,
jalber cj Stroud, who's not going to play this week
in the Neck Bowl. This is between Trevor Lawrence and
Davis Mills, probably the too longest next in history to
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face off in a game. And he's also the quarterback
coach for Gino Smith and Gino had a really good
game last week against a very good Jacksonville defense. He did, yeah,
went overtime through four touchdown passes. They don't have a
lot of receivers on the boundary. They traded their best receiver,
Jacoby Myers, but it was the perfect storm. They get
up early in that game. You know, Mike Myers aka
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Aston Jense some nice plays early. He did, yeah, early,
But I think the strategy from Pete Carroll was, let's
find a way to just kind of well, we got
a seven to nothing lead. If we can get this
thing to seven nothing by the end of the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Let's just NAP's nap.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah. And they offensively their offensive line, by the way,
And this was the point we were making earlier about
would you rather have a great offensive line or great receivers?
You got to pick one. That was a case study.
And if you've got a bad offensive line, you got
no chance. And I think you think.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Gets tackled almost as soon as he grabs the ball.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That's part of it. And then the other part is
not only Gino Smith getting sacked at an alarming rate
by a defense right now, that's on pace to set
the NFL record with sacks. That's right. You have no
time to go through your progressions, you have no time
to develop any sort of rhythm with your receivers. And
I think he ended up taking how many sacks? I say,
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let's go through this six six six? Wow. And it
wasn't all Benito, it wasn't all Cooper on the outside.
It was a lot of guys on the inside like
Zach Allen, Johnsstan Myers. Uh yeah, it's not sustainable. All.
Whufanga got one the safety off the edge where there
was a complete breakdown in pass protection to where and
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they showed it right now, they're showing this game.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I just watched him take a sack and they spun
around six times.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Oh, it's awful. He ended up getting hurt in that game. Yeah,
so we saw Kenny Pickett warming up. That's what texted
last night. But man, Kenny Pickett time, he got in
for about a series and then he goes out there.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
You got prime Tom Brady right there at fourth quarter,
Kenny Pickett, did you play him?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
He's a Super Bowl champion is yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, get the rink, got a very small ring, came
out of a gumball machine.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
He's got small hands.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
All.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
We're also going to play a game later in the
show called where are they going to be in three years?
Oh yeah, a little wordy, that's fine. We're gonna look
at each of these starting quarterbacks and some of the
backups and decide with our crystal ball where we see
them in the league in three years. So yeah, it'll
be the same homes I think will be kind of
just what he is where he is. But how good
will they be, will they regress? Will they reach a
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point in their careers where they're doing certain things other
than playing football. The meme going around today of where
will bow Nicks be? I've seen him? Was it like
a Hurts or like a car dealer? He's selling Dodges.
And the guy's name was Brodie, by the way, said
the guy looked just like Bay. What's up, y'all, it's Brody.
Let me tell you. It looked just like bow Nicks.
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And and that's another topic we can get into at
the top of the show. Here. I get annoyed to
a certain degree by this narrative, but it's worth exploring,
and it's worth doing. The Broncos have the best record
in the league right now. They're eight and two. They're
on a seven game winning streak. Now, the context within that,
I suppose matters because some of those games have been
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against bad teams, like last night, like we're a case
in point, They're going against a Raiders defense that is
pretty depleted. Other than Max Crosby. You got Jamal Adams
out there at forty five years old running around. They
could only put up ten points and the only reason
they did that is because of a blocked punt, and
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the block punt went off the helmet of a player.
It was off the face mask. It was a head block.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Bow knicks throwing ham sandwiches out here though, they're awful.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Dude, that's the biggest concern. He had a passing touchdown,
but two interceptions. One of them was just awful, and
he missed a wide open receiver in the corner of
the end zone for what could have been a real
extender in that game. Ten to seven win. And they're
eight and two, And there's two sides through this argument
that I can understand. The first one is that's a
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troubling eight and two team. Sure, the quarterback is not
playing well at all. Right now, they've got a great defense.
It feels a little bit like the two thousand Ravens
in a way, where Trent Dilfer was the quarterback. It
was just, let's not screw up the fry machine. Let's
just continue to put the fries in the bag and
let the defense cook. The problem is they are screwing up.
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They are turning the ball over, but the defense is
remaining the tops in the league in my opinion, and
coverage and sacks and run defense all the elements you
want to see. That's one side of it. The other
side is they're eight and two, right, yeah, and there's
no pictures on the score card. And coaches always say
it's a great thing to not have your best stuff
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and to still win, because it's almost like a coach's
dream you have all week then to have a legitimate gripe, yeah, yeah, yeah,
and to really coach your guys up hard on things
though you are not where you want to be. That's
more in the case of a sort of a one
off bad game for your offense, are one off bad
game for your defense. There's a trend here with this
team is staying strong defensively week after week, which is
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the positive, and on the negative side, there is a
regression with this offense. Yeah, they're not running it as
effectively as they were. Dobbins had some good moments, but
he and Harvey aren't quite blending right now in terms
of the run game and bo Nicks. You look at
all those quarterbacks that were taken a couple of years ago.
We'll throw this out to you guys as well. I mean,
we can power rank and wedn't do whatever you want.
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But you look at that draft. It's no longer a
certainty that we know who the best quarterback is from
that draft. Maybe it wasn't a certainty before. Maybe we
need more time. But it's Caleb Williams who's having a
good season right now. It was Lockstock and Barrel Jaden
Daniels this time last year. Yeah, but look the circumstances.
Now he's looked okay when he's played this year, but
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now he's hurt. He's got the elbow injury. More on
that later.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Drake may Dude, I don't know, he's he looks the part.
Let's put it that with Rging.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, Pinnix, we don't know. Oh yeah, we I mean
he's Jekkolin Hyde McCarthy. We absolutely don't know yet.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Right, he's barely had which I mean Pennicks played what
two games last year?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Three games? Yeah, he's getting more attention two rookie seasons
for them. Basically, he's getting more attention for the way
he runs the ball in the red zone and his
postgame antics as his alter ego nine. By the way,
he looks like a People call him fake demon. He's
faked emon. Yeah, yeah, people aren't believing it. People aren't
buying into it. And then bo Nicks, of course, was
the last of those quarterbacks taken six in the first twelve,
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and each have had their moments of success. I would say,
with the exception of maybe McCarthy because he's only three
games into his career. Yeah, when you look at it,
if I had to right now, did you know injuries aside,
say who would I most rather have of that twenty
twenty four class, it would be Drake May right this second. Yeah,
Daniels would be right there, neck and neck the rest
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of them. They still have a lot of growth and
development to do, but May, and you look, we're talking
about Stefan Diggs, some good tight ends. We're not talking
about Randy moss oh and Jamar Jase and t Higgins.
He's got limitations with what he has to throw to,
and the offensive line is young and they're learning how
to jel. I think Drake May, of all those quarterbacks
right now from that draft class, would be my top guy.
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That's not necessarily a hot take, but that's where I'm
at right now with him specifically. He's playing at such
a great level and his accuracy on anything over twenty
yards is just like ungodly good.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Right now, who has it better than the Patriots?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
You go, Tom Brady, have a couple of down years
because you beat everybody for like fifteen years and everybody
hated you, and they're like, haha, the Patriots suck and
then you land Drake Man, It's like, no, okay, they're back.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Did you see this story? And I didn't even know
over the story. It might just be a troll account.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I typing Tom Brady in my search on Twitter, it
comes up Tom Brady, dog, Tom Brady clone, Tom Brady
soudy what no idea? I'm gonna type this in real quick.
So this is from a couple of accounts. It's funny
even if it's not true. Tom Brady reveals that he
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cloned his DNA twenty three years ago in a bioscience
experiment in North Carolina. This is a droll account. The
human is reported to be a life today sharing similar
traits to Brady. And of course, who was born twenty
three years ago in North Carolina? That would be one
d could you imagine? It's not. The big story, of course,
was the fact that he cloned his dog. And I
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heard Lebatar talking about this earlier today on his show,
and they were having a big debate about if you
clone your dog, are you really getting that dog again?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Oh, who knows, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
You have pets, right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I got
a dog out a couple of cats. Like, there's such
an affection in bond you build up with in our case,
little Sparky. He's like the love of our life in
terms of our dog, And like, I couldn't imagine dropping
another Sparky into the picture because he might look exactly
the same as Dan and the guys on the show
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were talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Sure, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I think that dog might cuddle with you less, might
want to tend to be a little more aggressive at times.
But look, you exactly like the dog you had before.
You've been down to a little stripe on his head, but.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
You would know team and bis you look at it,
you go dutch park because I cloned him, and you
believe that he actually exact same way, does all the
exact same stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
The essence of the dog. It mightn't even't be the same. Well,
we'll see what happens with Tom bradying his DNA story
this week. Yeah, that was a bad game. Last night,
but Denver is eight and two. Your thoughts on those
quarterbacks from the twenty twenty four NFL draft. Who is
the most likely to have the greatest of the careers
right now? Is it Bo Nicks k Does he still
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have a chance? I mean it's early. It is not
looking great now and there what do you think about McCarthy, Pennix,
Jade and Daniels Drake Man. Of course Caleb Williams who
puts up solid numbers. But as our good friend Tim
has talked about on this show, shout out to Tim
Big bears Fin, there's still some accuracy issues with his game,
and when you watch the tape at times you're like,
there's still some erratic moments to what he does. I
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believe we're out of here at six thirty today, if
I'm not mistaken that track. Charlotte FC looks like has
game playoff game tonight, and their pregame coverage will start
at six thirty. So while we're sad we're gonna leave early,
we're gonna yield to them because that's a big old
game on the pitch tonight between Charlotte FFC and New York.
They're tangling in the l in THELS playoffs. Wow, okay,
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let's start that over the MLS playoffs. Yeah, million SS playoffs,
Major League Soccer Playoffs. Jackson's coming up here at six
thirty right here on the home of Charlotte f C
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Until then we will come back, take your calls, get
you ready for a big week ten in the NFL,
Big week eleven in college football, and we'll play a
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little game called where are you going to be in
three years? For all the NFL quarterbacks game on rolls
on right after.
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it's trade Paulie Walnuts Falco. H's your boy, John. Now
let's hit his game on, getting ready as best we
can for a big weekend of football, and it starts, well,
it's already started. You know. Actually last night I guess
you can call it football, would we can't? I guess
sat through and most of us paid for if you
have a prime video for the express purposes of watching
NFL on Thursday nights, you saw a slop fest. And
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as I said last night, some of y'all ainate forty
four years old, and it shows that was a throwback game.
A throwback game, Oh yeah, to the early two thousands
where there were a lot more games like that. And
then I dug deeper into the numbers, I'm like, oh yeah,
that's not even two thousand. Stuff. That's just bad football turnovers.
It's just ugly sacks, block punts, missed assignments. It was awful.
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But the bigger question about it is, you know the Broncos,
are they for real? That's always the the great point
about you know, these shows that we watch in the
mornings on some networks that we have access to, YouTube TV,
there's not so much. You know, they will parse through
everything like this. When the record is eight and two,
the best in football right now, it does not matter
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how you get there, but maybe it matters, and so
much that when they get playoff time, if they're not
truly battle tested. Talking about Denver here right right, they
could come back and haunt them because you know, they've
had some miracle wins. When you look at it, they
were down like thirty points to the Giants. Yeah, they
had to make that remarkable comeback.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
They should be if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Shouldn't they be nine and two because they had a
miracle loss to the Giants right with that field goal or.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
The Colts cults it was Colts.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
You're exactly right though that I don't remember exactly what happened,
but it was like they had to rekick or something.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Leverage penalty on special teams. They should have won that
one rarely called and it gave the Colts a mulligan
on the field goal and they knocked it right through.
We've got updates on YouTube, TV and ESPN. Nothing good
to report, but I'll give you what they're saying. And
they're not only not close to a deal, but they're publicly,
you know, trading shots right now, which is like, thanks, guys,
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I really appreciate the fact that both conglomerates are fighting
with their food, right, mam and Datta fighting and public Yeah,
mamadet are fighting. And meanwhile, I can't watch that damn
thing tomorrow. Nothing unless I break down at midnight and
sign up for this dumb mass espn app which I
am not gonna do.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I'm not giving them a dime, not giving them a dime.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'm not gonna do it. We've got stats about how
many teams or how long teams have played with the
lead this season. An interesting little nugget here, and you'll
don't believe teams that are up at the top there,
how many minutes have they played with the leads? Yeah?
And played while trailing is the more important way to
look at this. Who are the front runners in the
NFL right now? Eight six four two four zero five
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four eight zero. Let's go to the Ingles hotline. Happy
Football Friday, Welcome in.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
They gats all night.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, what's up, Chad?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
What's going on? Boy?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Oh man? We are living a dream Dalan Cove dropping dimes?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You know the Yes, Yeah, what's on your mind today? Brother?
Football weekend coming up?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Hello? What I know what got Manno win? Had Broncos
mar in those donkeys?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, we had no way to make up ground on you.
Where we're going to pick the same team? I did it?
You trade went with the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I was trying to get a lead on Chad. I
was hoping the Broncot one.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, you would get to the point this season where
we're trying to keep pace with this wizard that we're
talking to on the phone with our picks, and the
only thing we can do is reel him into the
show as vided yesterday, get him to make his picks first,
and try to audible to the exact opposite team, no
matter how bad of a pick it is, I just
refuse to I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sell my integrity.
You can win the whole thing. I'm not gonna pick
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these crap teams. No. It was a close game last night,
though it was a bad game.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't watch one of but I just
kind of caught the high because I don't get the Amazon.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You didn't miss much. It was not a Prime game,
that's for sure. About four highlights a go, but you
have what highlights? Did you see? Which highlight? The block
punt was probably the only one?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the one.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I although Amazon Prime last night. They have a great
postgame show, and they could have picked they picked the lick,
could have picked a lot of guys to be their
player of the game, which is head has a title
sponsor to it that we won't mention on this show.
But they picked bow Knicks, And I'm like, why not,
Nick Benito, why not the the guy who had a
sack and a half way. Anybody else, literally, anybody other
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than the quarterback who threw two interceptions missed a wide
open receiver for a touchdown that one. I think that's
all about getting the good looking quarterback on the set
bone knicks when.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
He's really a handsome young man in there.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
He ain't playing good he ain't playing good football right now.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, that's the popularity contest. That ain't a real, real
or real award.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
No, I agree, it's on your mind.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Don't doubts playing this.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Week Florida State tomorrow night. Let me tell you something
about that game. Will Vandervood, our good buddy, had a
good little tweet about this earlier today. Let me get
give you this one. So according to Will vander According
to Vanderborg, Clemson started playing at least six homes games
in most years starting in nineteen seventy. Clemson has never
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lost more than four home games in any one season.
If the Tigers lose to FSU on Sunday, it'll mark
the first time in the program's history, it would have
lost five home games in a season. That's the big
thing I keep coming back to. They need to stop
the bleeding at home. Yeah, just from a PR perspective,
like I know, there's a football side of this and
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that really is what haunts them right now and the
one thing I look at among everything else with that team.
And we talked with Dalton Wasserman about this the other
day from PFF. He agrees, it's the secondary. There are
guys in that secondary that are NFL ready talent, like yeah,
Terrell and others, but the communication has been lacking. You
saw Dabbo going up to the secondary on the bench
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the other day lighting into him. Yep, they got to
win this game. It's time to stop the bleeding. Florida
State has been on a slide as well, So yeah,
that's they're playing tomorrow the old seminals.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
What about the game Cocks.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Bye week? You know, they're getting things ready for their.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
New Carolina where they playing at this year in Columbia or.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yep, on the twenty ninth noon kickoff and quick, it's
I mean, that's how fast this college football season has
been flying by. Right now, three weeks. Yeah, and like
the college football playoffs, Like, I'm looking at those brackets
and I'm not trying to whine about it, but I'm
not excited about some of these teams that are in
right now. It's like, yeah, these I mean Texas Tech, Okay,
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they got a big game coming up this weekend. I
guess it's you know, some new blood is good, but
Notre Dame. Just being penciled in at number ten right
now just seems like wow, Okay, Bobby, Yeah, It's it's
why I will always love the NFL more. It's it's
a more pure measurement of the best of the best
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at the end of the year they're in, you know,
to college football's defense, there are one hundred plus teams,
like six of them right It's hard. I get it.
You can't put them all in a playoff format. I
don't want to expand this thing anymore than it is.
I don't think you need to go to thirty two
or twenty four teams. But in the NFL, you count
up the games at the end of the season, they
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all matter the same. It gets pretty intense in November
and really intense in December, and you take the best
seven from each conference by virtue of record. There will
be some teams left out because how it works. It's
how it works. Like last year's a good example. They
weren't left out, but like the Vikings won eleven games
last year and they didn't get a home playoff.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
What about the whole system? I many freaking good teams
should have played for the title and didn't. I mean
in the past years. I mean like in the eighties
and nineties.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Kids, you can go back and simulate those and some
people have and they've taken like the eighty five season
or the ninety ninety five season, two thousand and expanded out.
What would it look like if the the AP or
BCS rankings had you know, twelve teams ranked, And yeah,
you could make the argument there's probably a little more
parody there too, because you know, you've got a system
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now where boy like Ohio State, I know they're probably
at some point going to trip up. Maybe it won't
be until next year, but they don't look like they're
gonna lose. Maybe Indiana gives them the biggest challenge. I
don't know. The Alabama looks great right now, so maybe
Alabama rises to the occasion. They got to get by
LSU this weekend. That's always dangerous, even though there's no
more Brian Kelly. Maybe that's a good thing. I don't know,
(28:33):
but yeah, I can't tell you more than two or
three teams I can look at right now and say, yeah,
they can beat Ohio State, not right now at least.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, you're right. Oh, I know what I was gonna
ask you the other day. Yeah, I asked Rich this too.
But man, what do you think about these G League
players being able to come back to college?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Have you seen that a little bit on that? I
don't have much of an and on it. I don't.
I mean, I think it's it's not something that a
lot of people around the college game are loving right now.
It's not the best thing.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
In the world.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
But it's allowed, it's allowed, it's permitted. I think there
are bigger.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Issues Vandora's box, or we're gonna see some practice squad
guys coming back to college and play football or something crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Maybe maybe you know, maybe here's the thing, what's college
football going to look like in twenty years? NFL? You know,
trades because eventually these are going to be guys that
can go to that institution play football without having to
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enroll in a single class. And I'm sure the collective
bargaining within that. And that's just a forecast on my perspective.
But the way this is sliding, the academics remain central
to so many of these coaches. The way they preach it,
I think they mean it in a lot of cases.
But these are guys all making multi million dollar contracts.
They're gonna flow with the system and stay within it.
(30:06):
People say, well, Saban got out because he hates the
way it's going. Maybe, but we've got remember Saban's also
in his seventies. Well, yeah, so kind of an old
man by some measurements, and I think if he was
fifty in and retired, it would have raised more eyes like,
oh wow, okay, what's gonna be an avalanche of guys? Yeah,
pet Carol still coaching a college team right now, University
(30:26):
of Las Vegas Raider. You could the Raiders beat Ohio State.
I hate that question all the time. My answer to
that is always any NFL team could pummel the best
college team d team, even though absolute even the Panthers
(30:46):
from a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
The best college team.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Now the Steelers the Steeler would play Ohio State, and
Ohio State would run for five hundred yards.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Yeah, they didn't play down to the Ohio State levels.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
The one they got that's the track game that gets
Tom and fired.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Finally, the ins theres are like, please, let's do an
exhibition game with a college team so we have absolute
proof to go to the rooneys, who are totally asleep
in their office.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Is like, and then we draft that same running back
of the first round. He wouldn't do anything in.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
That's right, anything you touch, Well, you're on record with
the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Two tutties, right, two thirties, two cat.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, you know. McMillan. McMillan popped up on the injury
report today. Hamstring. He had a little hammy issue, little hamstring.
I I don't know if he's going to play or not.
I would lean probably, but he's questionable now. But it
sounds like they're getting hunted rent for a ready just
in case, which that's a good thing to have in
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your back pocket. He's not the same kind of receiver
that McMillan is, but it just means against the Saints
team that's wounded. Look, one of your guys might be
out hand the Bato Rico. Keep the cards close to
the vest On offense and get out there and get
after this rookie quarterback. You know, this is the.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Game where when we go out of practice yesterday or something.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yep, but he's back. He's good, he's good to go. Okay,
you know who else? Game might be a two pumps?
Who else is on the injury board?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Alex high Smith seriously, yeah, you know it's fun about me.
But I got glass bones and paper skin.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
An annual that's a November tradition.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Well, he went out for a little bit in that
in that Steelers game, and I was like, really again.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Again, Yeah, he's a snake bitting man. There's some of
these guys and there's this notion that, well, they're injury prone.
You can't pay him, you can't rely on them. No,
it's just bad luck. Some guys just have terrible luck
in the NFL. I'm glad j C. Horne Hat stayed healthy.
J C was that guy. I was worried about that man.
If they can't keep him on the field, he can't develop.
And he's been healthy the last two years and that's
been a big reason why they're good this year.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, man, I really like horn Man. I think I
ain't gonna end up paying him and they gonna be
one of the core guys.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Oh, they've already paid him. Yeah, they gave him a contract,
so he's he's here to stay.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
But okay, Yeah, should.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Be a good week in a football brother. Man, we're
gonna hit a break here, but we're gonna be here Monday.
We're gonna be talking ball with you, a big cat.
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We don't have overtime a big big cat on Monday.
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We're off Monday night, so be looking out for some
updates on that. But we definitely got game on coming
up five to seven on Monday. And uh, I'll be
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That sounds good. That sounds good, as Big Cat.
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get ready for their pregame show. But we're back on
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live for game on five pm. Let's fire up the
van and play a little game, why don't we. Oh yeah,
it's a little game called where They're going to be
in three years? Yeah? Take a look at each of
these quarterbacks around the NFL, and let's determine in our
crystal ball where we see these players ending up in
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three years. Let's start with one that should be relatively easy.
In the AFC East. They're the division leaders right now.
It's Drake May as they're taking on the Buccaneers of
all teams coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
If I get just in a few words, say where
I think he's going to be, I'll make a bold prediction.
He will have a couple of Pro Bowls under his
belt by then, and he will have been to at
least one AFC Championship game by then. He will be
the franchise in three years as he is right now.
Seemingly that's Drake May's three year plan.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I would agree with that, definitely on the franchise part.
And I mean if he keeps like his trajectory. Obviously,
I get that it's it's early, you know, it's the
second year, but man, he is he is not playing
like a second year.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
He always could out there on the field. He's got
commanded that offense.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Yeah, I cans his Pro Bowls in his his in
his future at AFC Championship.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I don't know, man, could could it? Could it be
the startert of the Could there be a Super Bowl
in three years? I don't think so, But it's.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Thinking about that earlier. And you know, with the Chiefs
playing the way they are right now, sort of up
and down, maybe they sneak one in. But it's hard
to pick against the Chiefs. That's why I stop short.
But Buffalo is sitting right there too. They're six and two.
I think we all know where Josh Allen has been.
He'll still be Bill's quarterback. He will. I I predict
he will have a ring within three years. It's gotta happen.
(37:06):
They're gonna break through and finally get it done within
three It's been a long time coming for that team
since twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I think, you know, I mean, it's it's still a
long road ahead.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
But if if he's gonna do it, he needs to
capitalize on this year with the up and down of
the Chiefs and looking at it like jump on it, capitalize,
get your ass in the super Bowl and get a ring.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, but yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
It's it's so.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Hard because the Chiefs are so dominant and it always
comes down in that playoff.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh, they're just sitting right there like a sore thumb
for some of those teams in the conference. He can't
break through against them. Now, this one's gonna be interesting.
Now to a tongue of Iola, the quarterback of the
Miami Dumpigs, got ye, all right, they're two and seven
right now. He's had mistake prone football all year long.
(37:51):
They did give him a big contract. There are ways
to wiggle out of that, as we've seen with Denver,
Yeah and other teams. I'll make this prediction. He won't
beat the Dolphins quarterback in three years, and I think
he's gonna end up down the mac Jones road. Wilson,
Yes too, wils that's right, Tua mac tua mac mac tua.
(38:13):
He'll end up in that same boat. In my opinion.
I maybe they changed coaches this year, maybe they reignite
his game. But he's been so dependent on everything around
him being right, christine and perfect. He's not an elevator,
and I see him being a guy that's a backup
in three years, not in Miami.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
I don't know where he falls and where he lands,
I should say, but he ain't gonna be with the
with the Dolphins, I.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Don't think so ether And I view this quarterback in
a similar light too, although he hasn't had as many accomplishments.
It's the Jets quarterback justin Fields. Oh yeah, now they
owe him some money next year, right, but there's nothing
that bounds them to justin Fields. And I think right now,
he had a good game a couple of weeks ago. Granted,
I mean he's had a couple of good games here
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in there.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
But that's justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
It's justin Fields, and so many coaches have tried to
get the most out of him to this point. When
I look at Fields, I see a backup. I see
a guy that's going to be bouncing around the league
in three years, probably not starting for any of these teams.
Like trying to find, within the context of this little
gamer plane, the next version of maybe a mac Jones.
If it doesn't work there, could it work somewhere else.
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I don't see it with Fields. I could see it
more maybe with Tua than Fields, just based on his accuracy.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
You know.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I feel like a decent place the fields might be
able to land and be pretty good backup Philly.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
That's not a bad They've got.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
The line, they've got the running game cooking. I mean,
maybe he goes to Philly in the next three years.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
That's actually a great fit because he's built similarly to
Jalen Hurts. He's got the strength and the lower body
to run some of those read options, and he can
throw the ball up top deep. That's actually a great fit.
He could be a backup in Philly. I could see that.
All right, here we go, Oh boy, Pittsburgh Steelers. Who knows,
I don't know. I'll turn it to you, Aaron Rodgers
(40:04):
in three years. Well, here's the thing. The question would be,
is he's still playing in three years. I can agree,
probably not.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
It doesn't seem like he wants to play, But he
knows what he wants.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I know, I know, I don't it's not gonna be
with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
And I shot me, well, what it is? An extended run?
Tomlin can't quit him. I think he's out of the
league by then. And he's talked about this before. When
he's out, they've asked him, Hey, do you want to
go into TV and new that? And he's like, no,
I want nothing to do. He'll disappear. He'll show up
me with that golf tournament in Tahoe every year with
(40:44):
the celebrities. Yeah, that's the only time I think you'll
ever see Aaron Rodgers again. Literally, So absorb it. Why
you can, if you're a big a rod fan, because
I don't think he's gonna be around much longer in
terms of either on the field or in the public spotlight.
Although he can call an audible fast if he gets
the feeling lonely. Yeah, Baltimore, Lamar.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Oh, he's in Baltimore. I don't see him going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
No, not at all. He's one of the best quarterbacks
in the league. And if they just get a little
more competent around him in terms of receivers at times,
he can get over the hump and win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Burrow, this is a good We actually had somebody text
in yesterday on Riches Show asking about should the Bengals
dump Burrow or try and move a Jamar Chase and
try and bolster that O line.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
I just my problem with it is that I don't
know that if the office will move off of Joe Burrow,
they've got all their eggs in a basket and Joe Burrow
in these two whiteouts. But at the same time, I
look at it, are you doing to many favors?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Could he request a trade? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
Burrow is an interesting one, but I think he stays
with Cincy.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I think by virtue what happened a few years ago
where they made it to the Super Bowl, they should
have won that game. They were so close against the Rams.
They went into Kansas City and beat them in the
playoffs in the championship game. But everything had to come
together perfectly. And what they had back then that they
don't have now is more in one good pass rusher.
They had good secondary players that were veterans that weren't
putting that slop out there like they did against the Bears.
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So they had a defense that defense, and they had
an offensive line, and they had balance with their receivers.
And now they have paid out the rear in for
Big three, which is Burrow, Chase Higgins, and it leaves
them precious little capital for anything out. So yeah, I
don't disagree that maybe dumping Burrow could be an idea
if you can find sure, you can find a lot
of trade partners.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
If somebody pick him up.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
My prediction is he'll be there in three years. They
will be sort of like this team that puts up
a lot of big numbers. He'll get hurt once to
walk because he always does, and they're going to be
like a ten to eleven win team if he's healthy
every year, and they'll make a run to the playoffs.
But I don't think they're going to be in the
super Bowl unless they get a better overall team around
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him at some point.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Which which quarterback?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
You picking? Browns? Yeah, well, I mean Blaco. Let's start
with him, obviously, Browns. It's okay, it's the Browns.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
You can't it's hard to keep up.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Let's do Flacco. By the way, dude, I don't know.
Might I guarantee he'll get a call. He'll be retired
for you. He'll get a call by somebody somebody needs
a quarterback for a week. He'll answer the back. All right,
Let's start with Cleveland here. What about DeShawn Watson, Oh, Mercy,
(43:26):
I forgot he played for the Bengals. I think oh
Man a whole prediction. I think that Shawn's going to
be starting somewhere else other than Cleveland. In three years,
and I think he'll be a solid player again. I
think I think he's I think he's gonna find himself.
I think this Cleveland thing was a nightmare. He brought
a lot of that stuff on him.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, Shawn Mayfield, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I could see not maybe a Mayfield or Darnold level resurgence,
but I could see him back in the league somewhere else.
But I don't think he's ever going to start for
Cleveland again.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I don't think he's going to start for Cleveland, should
or should do.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Somebody will take him. I honestly don't know if he'll
be with Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
And Dylan Gabriel. I just don't see a future for
the guy. Now. They're taking a quarterback next year, they
have to or go shopping for a guy like Mac Jones, Babe, Rot.
All right, we'll do the rest of the AFC when
we come back after this break. Get you started into
the second hour of this show. We'll also tackle the NFC,
where we're taking a look at all the quarterbacks around
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would you rather have an elite offensive line like best
in the league or elite receivers. You got to pick one.
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Elite receivers, average offensive line or average you know, mega
cheeks receivers and a great offensive line zero five four
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Speaker 2 (02:01):
So I can be the Eagles or I can be
the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yes, them's your choices right there. It is an interesting
debate and they had different opinions. I know that Ryan,
Matt Ryan took a few minutes and thought about it,
and then he was like, oh, I got to pick one.
Give me the elite receivers because I can get that
ball out quickly to Julio Jones or other players that
he had right and they can take you to the house.
(02:25):
And then Romo brought up a great explanation as to
why that didn't work for him. He was talking about
a season back in twenty ten where we're coming into
this season feeling good about the skill position players we've got,
obviously Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, feeling really good about that.
And they said the first preseason game, he took a
(02:45):
snap and through a quick slant and he got hit
from behind on a quick slant and he was like,
I've never been hit like that on a quick slant,
and it just wore him down throughout that season.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Have to side with Romo.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I think I like, I get you.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And we've seen teams before like Cam Newton MVP twenty fifteen.
They had nothing other than Greg Olsen to throw to.
Nothing of substance, I mean, average wide receivers, Ted Ginn,
Corey Brown, Jericho Kattrie very good players, but nothing that
would signal Hall of Fame talent, elite. But they had
a great offensive line and they had a great running game.
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That's the formula I would follow even in today's NFL,
because I mean you kind of look at what happens
with Cincinnati right now, and look the defense, right the
Bengals defensive side. I mean, the defense is what it is,
but there's no consistency with that team, even though you've
got Chase, you've got Higgins. Yeah, because like.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Thingos would have been a better instead of the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, the ban Yeah, for like the fifth consecutive year,
they have neglected to address the trenchets. Even on the
offensive side of the ball. They thought they had it right,
you know, Amarius Mims, Yeah, bringing Carris as the center
and these fine players, but as a whole unit, they've
just neglected to build it right. Whereas they give all
these you know, chess pieces for their quarterbacks to play with.
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Now it's Joe Flacco, it was Joe Burrow, and the
results are decent, but there's no consistency in rhythm to
their offense. I'd rather have an elite quarterback with an
elite offensive line who can elevate the play of receivers
around them, and instead some receivers or some quarterbacks I
should say, would tell you, no, give me the elate
weapons and I will figure out the rest of the
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slop in front of me. There is nothing worse, as
evidenced by the game last night that we'll get into
Thursday night. Football might be jumping the shark. Although, yeah,
if it's slop, I'm gonna turn in because it's football.
That game last night is a good example of if
you have no offensive line, and even if you have
a stud like brock Powers, yeah, you don't have any
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time to do anything. It was he It was rancid,
it was brutal.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, well, I look no further than Tom Brady and
the Patriots had a line where he could sit back
there and eat a full breakfast if you wanted to,
and nobody could touch him. It felt like, and you
give you give pretty much any quarterback. I feel like
a little bit of time in the NFL that could
probably make a play. But you give somebody like a
Tom Brady time and he's just gonna pick you apart.
It doesn't matter if it's you know, Billy from Greer
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running routes. He's gonna he's gonna find him open. And
Billy and Neil that's your two receivers. You got Tom
Brady throwing to you, they're gonna score. But also it
opens up your running game. And two, you want to
talk about longevity. That's part of why I think Brady
plays so long as Oh yeah, if you don't touch him,
he doesn't take a whole lot of Sax's body doesn't
take a beat.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, he was always smart about if there was pressure
to get down right, absorb any type of unnecessary hits
to his legs or to his upper body. And he
played it an error where there was more I guess
targeting allowed when it came out. Yeah, hitting the quarterback,
So you had to be smart about it. Speaking of
last night, we got to talk about it. We got
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the pick, right, did we both pick Denver? I think
we did.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I think I went with the Raiders, He went with
the Raiders. Did go with the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You weren't far off. I thought.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I was like, maybe it's time that Runcos come down
a little bit, didn't I.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Al Michael and Kirk Herbstreet with his dog calling last
night's game. I think the dog might have fallen asleep
around the third quarter now probably wanted to fall asleep
ten to seven, which is, by the way, the more
you know here on game on the lowest scoring game
in the NFL this season, and it came in prime time.
And look, I think we were real desperate for some
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football last night, especially those that don't have ESPN access
right now, which there's more on that story we're looking at,
you know, in about twelve fourteen, sixteen hours from now,
another great college football slate on ESPN on ABC ACC
SEC network will be available to those that don't have
YouTube TV. But those that do, like me, we're sitting
(06:53):
there thinking, oh my gosh, here's another Saturday that's going
to be slim pickens. Yeah, and that's what brought me
to last night's game. I've got prime video. I know
you do too, and we were looking forward to seeing
some kind of But it's been real clear the last
couple of weeks that you know, some of these Thursday
night games are good, but most of them are slop.
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They are it's going to be that way. It's a
short week. These are teams that are coming off games
just from a few days prior to have a short
week of practice, a short week of specific game install
for that week, and does feel like preseason football at times.
I'm gonna tell you something. I was dming Quincy Avery
last night, and I think he's going to be on
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the show here with us next week. But Quincy, you
know the story. You've heard him on our show a
few times. And he's a quarterback coach on the private side,
private quarterback coach for you know guys like Jordan Love,
jalber cj Stroud, who's not going to play this week
in the Neck Bowl. This is between Trevor Lawrence and
Davis Mills, probably the too longest next in history to
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face off in a game. And he's also the quarterback
coach for Gino Smith and Gino had a really good
game last week against a very good Jacksonville defense. He did, yeah,
went overtime through four touchdown passes. They don't have a
lot of receivers on the boundary. They traded their best receiver,
Jacoby Myers, but it was the perfect storm. They get
up early in that game. You know, Mike Myers aka
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Aston Jense some nice plays early. He did, yeah, early,
But I think the strategy from Pete Carroll was, let's
find a way to just kind of well, we got
a seven to nothing lead. If we can get this
thing to seven nothing by the end of the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Let's just NAP's nap.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah. And they offensively their offensive line, by the way,
And this was the point we were making earlier about
would you rather have a great offensive line or great receivers?
You got to pick one. That was a case study.
And if you've got a bad offensive line, you got
no chance. And I think you think.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Gets tackled almost as soon as he grabs the ball.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That's part of it. And then the other part is
not only Gino Smith getting sacked at an alarming rate
by a defense right now, that's on pace to set
the NFL record with sacks. That's right. You have no
time to go through your progressions, you have no time
to develop any sort of rhythm with your receivers. And
I think he ended up taking how many sacks? I say,
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let's go through this six six six? Wow. And it
wasn't all Benito, it wasn't all Cooper on the outside.
It was a lot of guys on the inside like
Zach Allen, Johnsstan Myers. Uh yeah, it's not sustainable. All.
Whufanga got one the safety off the edge where there
was a complete breakdown in pass protection to where and
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they showed it right now, they're showing this game.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I just watched him take a sack and they spun
around six times.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Oh, it's awful. He ended up getting hurt in that game. Yeah,
so we saw Kenny Pickett warming up. That's what texted
last night. But man, Kenny Pickett time, he got in
for about a series and then he goes out there.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
You got prime Tom Brady right there at fourth quarter,
Kenny Pickett, did you play him?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
He's a Super Bowl champion is yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, get the rink, got a very small ring, came
out of a gumball machine.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
He's got small hands.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
All.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
We're also going to play a game later in the
show called where are they going to be in three years?
Oh yeah, a little wordy, that's fine. We're gonna look
at each of these starting quarterbacks and some of the
backups and decide with our crystal ball where we see
them in the league in three years. So yeah, it'll
be the same homes I think will be kind of
just what he is where he is. But how good
will they be, will they regress? Will they reach a
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point in their careers where they're doing certain things other
than playing football. The meme going around today of where
will bow Nicks be? I've seen him? Was it like
a Hurts or like a car dealer? He's selling Dodges.
And the guy's name was Brodie, by the way, said
the guy looked just like Bay. What's up, y'all, it's Brody.
Let me tell you. It looked just like bow Nicks.
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And and that's another topic we can get into at
the top of the show. Here. I get annoyed to
a certain degree by this narrative, but it's worth exploring,
and it's worth doing. The Broncos have the best record
in the league right now. They're eight and two. They're
on a seven game winning streak. Now, the context within that,
I suppose matters because some of those games have been
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against bad teams, like last night, like we're a case
in point, They're going against a Raiders defense that is
pretty depleted. Other than Max Crosby. You got Jamal Adams
out there at forty five years old running around. They
could only put up ten points and the only reason
they did that is because of a blocked punt, and
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the block punt went off the helmet of a player.
It was off the face mask. It was a head block.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Bow knicks throwing ham sandwiches out here though, they're awful.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Dude, that's the biggest concern. He had a passing touchdown,
but two interceptions. One of them was just awful, and
he missed a wide open receiver in the corner of
the end zone for what could have been a real
extender in that game. Ten to seven win. And they're
eight and two, And there's two sides through this argument
that I can understand. The first one is that's a
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troubling eight and two team. Sure, the quarterback is not
playing well at all. Right now, they've got a great defense.
It feels a little bit like the two thousand Ravens
in a way, where Trent Dilfer was the quarterback. It
was just, let's not screw up the fry machine. Let's
just continue to put the fries in the bag and
let the defense cook. The problem is they are screwing up.
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They are turning the ball over, but the defense is
remaining the tops in the league in my opinion, and
coverage and sacks and run defense all the elements you
want to see. That's one side of it. The other
side is they're eight and two, right, yeah, and there's
no pictures on the score card. And coaches always say
it's a great thing to not have your best stuff
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and to still win, because it's almost like a coach's
dream you have all week then to have a legitimate gripe, yeah, yeah, yeah,
and to really coach your guys up hard on things
though you are not where you want to be. That's
more in the case of a sort of a one
off bad game for your offense, are one off bad
game for your defense. There's a trend here with this
team is staying strong defensively week after week, which is
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the positive, and on the negative side, there is a
regression with this offense. Yeah, they're not running it as
effectively as they were. Dobbins had some good moments, but
he and Harvey aren't quite blending right now in terms
of the run game and bo Nicks. You look at
all those quarterbacks that were taken a couple of years ago.
We'll throw this out to you guys as well. I mean,
we can power rank and wedn't do whatever you want.
(13:30):
But you look at that draft. It's no longer a
certainty that we know who the best quarterback is from
that draft. Maybe it wasn't a certainty before. Maybe we
need more time. But it's Caleb Williams who's having a
good season right now. It was Lockstock and Barrel Jaden
Daniels this time last year. Yeah, but look the circumstances.
Now he's looked okay when he's played this year, but
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now he's hurt. He's got the elbow injury. More on
that later.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Drake may Dude, I don't know, he's he looks the part.
Let's put it that with Rging.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, Pinnix, we don't know. Oh yeah, we I mean
he's Jekkolin Hyde McCarthy. We absolutely don't know yet.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Right, he's barely had which I mean Pennicks played what
two games last year?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Three games? Yeah, he's getting more attention two rookie seasons
for them. Basically, he's getting more attention for the way
he runs the ball in the red zone and his
postgame antics as his alter ego nine. By the way,
he looks like a People call him fake demon. He's
faked emon. Yeah, yeah, people aren't believing it. People aren't
buying into it. And then bo Nicks, of course, was
the last of those quarterbacks taken six in the first twelve,
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and each have had their moments of success. I would say,
with the exception of maybe McCarthy because he's only three
games into his career. Yeah, when you look at it,
if I had to right now, did you know injuries aside,
say who would I most rather have of that twenty
twenty four class, it would be Drake May right this second. Yeah,
Daniels would be right there, neck and neck the rest
(14:54):
of them. They still have a lot of growth and
development to do, but May, and you look, we're talking
about Stefan Diggs, some good tight ends. We're not talking
about Randy moss oh and Jamar Jase and t Higgins.
He's got limitations with what he has to throw to,
and the offensive line is young and they're learning how
to jel. I think Drake May, of all those quarterbacks
right now from that draft class, would be my top guy.
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That's not necessarily a hot take, but that's where I'm
at right now with him specifically. He's playing at such
a great level and his accuracy on anything over twenty
yards is just like ungodly good.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Right now, who has it better than the Patriots?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
You go, Tom Brady, have a couple of down years
because you beat everybody for like fifteen years and everybody
hated you, and they're like, haha, the Patriots suck and
then you land Drake Man, It's like, no, okay, they're back.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Did you see this story? And I didn't even know
over the story. It might just be a troll account.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I typing Tom Brady in my search on Twitter, it
comes up Tom Brady, dog, Tom Brady clone, Tom Brady
soudy what no idea? I'm gonna type this in real quick.
So this is from a couple of accounts. It's funny
even if it's not true. Tom Brady reveals that he
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cloned his DNA twenty three years ago in a bioscience
experiment in North Carolina. This is a droll account. The
human is reported to be a life today sharing similar
traits to Brady. And of course, who was born twenty
three years ago in North Carolina? That would be one
d could you imagine? It's not. The big story, of course,
was the fact that he cloned his dog. And I
(16:27):
heard Lebatar talking about this earlier today on his show,
and they were having a big debate about if you
clone your dog, are you really getting that dog again?
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Oh, who knows, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
You have pets, right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I got
a dog out a couple of cats. Like, there's such
an affection in bond you build up with in our case,
little Sparky. He's like the love of our life in
terms of our dog, And like, I couldn't imagine dropping
another Sparky into the picture because he might look exactly
the same as Dan and the guys on the show
(16:57):
were talking about.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Sure, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I think that dog might cuddle with you less, might
want to tend to be a little more aggressive at times.
But look, you exactly like the dog you had before.
You've been down to a little stripe on his head, but.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
You would know team and bis you look at it,
you go dutch park because I cloned him, and you
believe that he actually exact same way, does all the
exact same stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
The essence of the dog. It mightn't even't be the same. Well,
we'll see what happens with Tom bradying his DNA story
this week. Yeah, that was a bad game. Last night,
but Denver is eight and two. Your thoughts on those
quarterbacks from the twenty twenty four NFL draft. Who is
the most likely to have the greatest of the careers
right now? Is it Bo Nicks k Does he still
(17:37):
have a chance? I mean it's early. It is not
looking great now and there what do you think about McCarthy, Pennix,
Jade and Daniels Drake Man. Of course Caleb Williams who
puts up solid numbers. But as our good friend Tim
has talked about on this show, shout out to Tim
Big bears Fin, there's still some accuracy issues with his game,
and when you watch the tape at times you're like,
there's still some erratic moments to what he does. I
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believe we're out of here at six thirty today, if
I'm not mistaken that track. Charlotte FC looks like has
game playoff game tonight, and their pregame coverage will start
at six thirty. So while we're sad we're gonna leave early,
we're gonna yield to them because that's a big old
game on the pitch tonight between Charlotte FFC and New York.
They're tangling in the l in THELS playoffs. Wow, okay,
(18:22):
let's start that over the MLS playoffs. Yeah, million SS playoffs,
Major League Soccer Playoffs. Jackson's coming up here at six
thirty right here on the home of Charlotte f C
and the Upstate one oh four nine Fox Sports Upstate.
Until then we will come back, take your calls, get
you ready for a big week ten in the NFL,
Big week eleven in college football, and we'll play a
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little game called where are you going to be in
three years? For all the NFL quarterbacks game on rolls
on right after.
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Speaker 4 (19:21):
Friday.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Wait, you know it's just had a good time here
on a football Friday. Come on in and see if
(19:46):
it's trade Paulie Walnuts Falco. H's your boy, John. Now
let's hit his game on, getting ready as best we
can for a big weekend of football, and it starts, well,
it's already started. You know. Actually last night I guess
you can call it football, would we can't? I guess
sat through and most of us paid for if you
have a prime video for the express purposes of watching
NFL on Thursday nights, you saw a slop fest. And
(20:09):
as I said last night, some of y'all ainate forty
four years old, and it shows that was a throwback game.
A throwback game, Oh yeah, to the early two thousands
where there were a lot more games like that. And
then I dug deeper into the numbers, I'm like, oh yeah,
that's not even two thousand. Stuff. That's just bad football turnovers.
It's just ugly sacks, block punts, missed assignments. It was awful.
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But the bigger question about it is, you know the Broncos,
are they for real? That's always the the great point
about you know, these shows that we watch in the
mornings on some networks that we have access to, YouTube TV,
there's not so much. You know, they will parse through
everything like this. When the record is eight and two,
the best in football right now, it does not matter
(20:55):
how you get there, but maybe it matters, and so
much that when they get playoff time, if they're not
truly battle tested. Talking about Denver here right right, they
could come back and haunt them because you know, they've
had some miracle wins. When you look at it, they
were down like thirty points to the Giants. Yeah, they
had to make that remarkable comeback.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
They should be if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Shouldn't they be nine and two because they had a
miracle loss to the Giants right with that field goal or.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
The Colts cults it was Colts.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
You're exactly right though that I don't remember exactly what happened,
but it was like they had to rekick or something.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Leverage penalty on special teams. They should have won that
one rarely called and it gave the Colts a mulligan
on the field goal and they knocked it right through.
We've got updates on YouTube, TV and ESPN. Nothing good
to report, but I'll give you what they're saying. And
they're not only not close to a deal, but they're publicly,
you know, trading shots right now, which is like, thanks, guys,
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I really appreciate the fact that both conglomerates are fighting
with their food, right, mam and Datta fighting and public Yeah,
mamadet are fighting. And meanwhile, I can't watch that damn
thing tomorrow. Nothing unless I break down at midnight and
sign up for this dumb mass espn app which I
am not gonna do.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I'm not giving them a dime, not giving them a dime.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I'm not gonna do it. We've got stats about how
many teams or how long teams have played with the
lead this season. An interesting little nugget here, and you'll
don't believe teams that are up at the top there,
how many minutes have they played with the leads? Yeah?
And played while trailing is the more important way to
look at this. Who are the front runners in the
NFL right now? Eight six four two four zero five
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four eight zero. Let's go to the Ingles hotline. Happy
Football Friday, Welcome in.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
They gats all night.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, what's up, Chad?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
What's going on? Boy?
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Oh man? We are living a dream Dalan Cove dropping dimes?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You know the Yes, Yeah, what's on your mind today? Brother?
Football weekend coming up?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Hello? What I know what got Manno win? Had Broncos
mar in those donkeys?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, we had no way to make up ground on you.
Where we're going to pick the same team? I did it?
You trade went with the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
I was trying to get a lead on Chad. I
was hoping the Broncot one.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, you would get to the point this season where
we're trying to keep pace with this wizard that we're
talking to on the phone with our picks, and the
only thing we can do is reel him into the
show as vided yesterday, get him to make his picks first,
and try to audible to the exact opposite team, no
matter how bad of a pick it is, I just
refuse to I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sell my integrity.
You can win the whole thing. I'm not gonna pick
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these crap teams. No. It was a close game last night,
though it was a bad game.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't watch one of but I just
kind of caught the high because I don't get the Amazon.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You didn't miss much. It was not a Prime game,
that's for sure. About four highlights a go, but you
have what highlights? Did you see? Which highlight? The block
punt was probably the only one?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the one.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I although Amazon Prime last night. They have a great
postgame show, and they could have picked they picked the lick,
could have picked a lot of guys to be their
player of the game, which is head has a title
sponsor to it that we won't mention on this show.
But they picked bow Knicks, And I'm like, why not,
Nick Benito, why not the the guy who had a
sack and a half way. Anybody else, literally, anybody other
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than the quarterback who threw two interceptions missed a wide
open receiver for a touchdown that one. I think that's
all about getting the good looking quarterback on the set
bone knicks when.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
He's really a handsome young man in there.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
He ain't playing good he ain't playing good football right now.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, that's the popularity contest. That ain't a real, real
or real award.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
No, I agree, it's on your mind.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Don't doubts playing this.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Week Florida State tomorrow night. Let me tell you something
about that game. Will Vandervood, our good buddy, had a
good little tweet about this earlier today. Let me get
give you this one. So according to Will vander According
to Vanderborg, Clemson started playing at least six homes games
in most years starting in nineteen seventy. Clemson has never
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lost more than four home games in any one season.
If the Tigers lose to FSU on Sunday, it'll mark
the first time in the program's history, it would have
lost five home games in a season. That's the big
thing I keep coming back to. They need to stop
the bleeding at home. Yeah, just from a PR perspective,
like I know, there's a football side of this and
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that really is what haunts them right now and the
one thing I look at among everything else with that team.
And we talked with Dalton Wasserman about this the other
day from PFF. He agrees, it's the secondary. There are
guys in that secondary that are NFL ready talent, like yeah,
Terrell and others, but the communication has been lacking. You
saw Dabbo going up to the secondary on the bench
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the other day lighting into him. Yep, they got to
win this game. It's time to stop the bleeding. Florida
State has been on a slide as well, So yeah,
that's they're playing tomorrow the old seminals.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
What about the game Cocks.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Bye week? You know, they're getting things ready for their.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
New Carolina where they playing at this year in Columbia or.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yep, on the twenty ninth noon kickoff and quick, it's
I mean, that's how fast this college football season has
been flying by. Right now, three weeks. Yeah, and like
the college football playoffs, Like, I'm looking at those brackets
and I'm not trying to whine about it, but I'm
not excited about some of these teams that are in
right now. It's like, yeah, these I mean Texas Tech, Okay,
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they got a big game coming up this weekend. I
guess it's you know, some new blood is good, but
Notre Dame. Just being penciled in at number ten right
now just seems like wow, Okay, Bobby, Yeah, It's it's
why I will always love the NFL more. It's it's
a more pure measurement of the best of the best
(26:58):
at the end of the year they're in, you know,
to college football's defense, there are one hundred plus teams,
like six of them right It's hard. I get it.
You can't put them all in a playoff format. I
don't want to expand this thing anymore than it is.
I don't think you need to go to thirty two
or twenty four teams. But in the NFL, you count
up the games at the end of the season, they
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all matter the same. It gets pretty intense in November
and really intense in December, and you take the best
seven from each conference by virtue of record. There will
be some teams left out because how it works. It's
how it works. Like last year's a good example. They
weren't left out, but like the Vikings won eleven games
last year and they didn't get a home playoff.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
What about the whole system? I many freaking good teams
should have played for the title and didn't. I mean
in the past years. I mean like in the eighties
and nineties.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Kids, you can go back and simulate those and some
people have and they've taken like the eighty five season
or the ninety ninety five season, two thousand and expanded out.
What would it look like if the the AP or
BCS rankings had you know, twelve teams ranked, And yeah,
you could make the argument there's probably a little more
parody there too, because you know, you've got a system
(28:12):
now where boy like Ohio State, I know they're probably
at some point going to trip up. Maybe it won't
be until next year, but they don't look like they're
gonna lose. Maybe Indiana gives them the biggest challenge. I
don't know. The Alabama looks great right now, so maybe
Alabama rises to the occasion. They got to get by
LSU this weekend. That's always dangerous, even though there's no
more Brian Kelly. Maybe that's a good thing. I don't know,
(28:33):
but yeah, I can't tell you more than two or
three teams I can look at right now and say, yeah,
they can beat Ohio State, not right now at least.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah, you're right. Oh, I know what I was gonna
ask you the other day. Yeah, I asked Rich this too.
But man, what do you think about these G League
players being able to come back to college?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Have you seen that a little bit on that? I
don't have much of an and on it. I don't.
I mean, I think it's it's not something that a
lot of people around the college game are loving right now.
It's not the best thing.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
In the world.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
But it's allowed, it's allowed, it's permitted. I think there
are bigger.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Issues Vandora's box, or we're gonna see some practice squad
guys coming back to college and play football or something crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Maybe maybe you know, maybe here's the thing, what's college
football going to look like in twenty years? NFL? You know,
trades because eventually these are going to be guys that
can go to that institution play football without having to
(29:45):
enroll in a single class. And I'm sure the collective
bargaining within that. And that's just a forecast on my perspective.
But the way this is sliding, the academics remain central
to so many of these coaches. The way they preach it,
I think they mean it in a lot of cases.
But these are guys all making multi million dollar contracts.
They're gonna flow with the system and stay within it.
(30:06):
People say, well, Saban got out because he hates the
way it's going. Maybe, but we've got remember Saban's also
in his seventies. Well, yeah, so kind of an old
man by some measurements, and I think if he was
fifty in and retired, it would have raised more eyes like,
oh wow, okay, what's gonna be an avalanche of guys? Yeah,
pet Carol still coaching a college team right now, University
(30:26):
of Las Vegas Raider. You could the Raiders beat Ohio State.
I hate that question all the time. My answer to
that is always any NFL team could pummel the best
college team d team, even though absolute even the Panthers
(30:46):
from a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
The best college team.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Now the Steelers the Steeler would play Ohio State, and
Ohio State would run for five hundred yards.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Yeah, they didn't play down to the Ohio State levels.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
The one they got that's the track game that gets
Tom and fired.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Finally, the ins theres are like, please, let's do an
exhibition game with a college team so we have absolute
proof to go to the rooneys, who are totally asleep
in their office.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Is like, and then we draft that same running back
of the first round. He wouldn't do anything in.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
That's right, anything you touch, Well, you're on record with
the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Two tutties, right, two thirties, two cat.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, you know. McMillan. McMillan popped up on the injury
report today. Hamstring. He had a little hammy issue, little hamstring.
I I don't know if he's going to play or not.
I would lean probably, but he's questionable now. But it
sounds like they're getting hunted rent for a ready just
in case, which that's a good thing to have in
(31:57):
your back pocket. He's not the same kind of receiver
that McMillan is, but it just means against the Saints
team that's wounded. Look, one of your guys might be
out hand the Bato Rico. Keep the cards close to
the vest On offense and get out there and get
after this rookie quarterback. You know, this is the.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Game where when we go out of practice yesterday or something.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yep, but he's back. He's good, he's good to go. Okay,
you know who else? Game might be a two pumps?
Who else is on the injury board?
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Alex high Smith seriously, yeah, you know it's fun about me.
But I got glass bones and paper skin.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
An annual that's a November tradition.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Well, he went out for a little bit in that
in that Steelers game, and I was like, really again.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Again, Yeah, he's a snake bitting man. There's some of
these guys and there's this notion that, well, they're injury prone.
You can't pay him, you can't rely on them. No,
it's just bad luck. Some guys just have terrible luck
in the NFL. I'm glad j C. Horne Hat stayed healthy.
J C was that guy. I was worried about that man.
If they can't keep him on the field, he can't develop.
And he's been healthy the last two years and that's
been a big reason why they're good this year.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, man, I really like horn Man. I think I
ain't gonna end up paying him and they gonna be
one of the core guys.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Oh, they've already paid him. Yeah, they gave him a contract,
so he's he's here to stay.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
But okay, Yeah, should.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Be a good week in a football brother. Man, we're
gonna hit a break here, but we're gonna be here Monday.
We're gonna be talking ball with you, a big cat.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
We don't have overtime a big big cat on Monday.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
We're off Monday night, so be looking out for some
updates on that. But we definitely got game on coming
up five to seven on Monday. And uh, I'll be
texting you this weekend. I'll be up with the game.
So I'll send you a few pictures and videos exclusives.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
That sounds good. That sounds good, as Big Cat.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Appreciate you. Appreciate you, Chatty goes Chad the vending machine
ting out there in the Upstate eight six four two
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coming up called where They're gonna be in three years?
Or we take a look at all the quarterbacks in
the Satay in the world of John and Trey and
our crystal ball. Where will these quarterbacks being three years?
Much more? Game on after this show.
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Speaker 5 (34:39):
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Speaker 1 (35:01):
Oh, we're having a good time here on a football Friday.
It's the game on. Good to be with you. I'm Johnny.
Let's let's tray Paul Walnuts and Falco. Don't forget tonight
you got Charlotte FC on your air. They're taking on
New York City in the first round of the MLS
playoffs and they'll drop the ball at seven pm. We'll
be getting out of here at six point thirty to
(35:21):
get ready for their pregame show. But we're back on
the air, of course, as we are every single Monday
live for game on five pm. Let's fire up the
van and play a little game, why don't we. Oh yeah,
it's a little game called where They're going to be
in three years? Yeah? Take a look at each of
these quarterbacks around the NFL, and let's determine in our
crystal ball where we see these players ending up in
(35:44):
three years. Let's start with one that should be relatively easy.
In the AFC East. They're the division leaders right now.
It's Drake May as they're taking on the Buccaneers of
all teams coming up on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
If I get just in a few words, say where
I think he's going to be, I'll make a bold prediction.
He will have a couple of Pro Bowls under his
belt by then, and he will have been to at
least one AFC Championship game by then. He will be
the franchise in three years as he is right now.
Seemingly that's Drake May's three year plan.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
I would agree with that, definitely on the franchise part.
And I mean if he keeps like his trajectory. Obviously,
I get that it's it's early, you know, it's the
second year, but man, he is he is not playing
like a second year.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
He always could out there on the field. He's got
commanded that offense.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Yeah, I cans his Pro Bowls in his his in
his future at AFC Championship.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I don't know, man, could could it? Could it be
the startert of the Could there be a Super Bowl
in three years? I don't think so, But it's.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Thinking about that earlier. And you know, with the Chiefs
playing the way they are right now, sort of up
and down, maybe they sneak one in. But it's hard
to pick against the Chiefs. That's why I stop short.
But Buffalo is sitting right there too. They're six and two.
I think we all know where Josh Allen has been.
He'll still be Bill's quarterback. He will. I I predict
he will have a ring within three years. It's gotta happen.
(37:06):
They're gonna break through and finally get it done within
three It's been a long time coming for that team
since twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I think, you know, I mean, it's it's still a
long road ahead.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
But if if he's gonna do it, he needs to
capitalize on this year with the up and down of
the Chiefs and looking at it like jump on it, capitalize,
get your ass in the super Bowl and get a ring.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, but yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
It's it's so.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Hard because the Chiefs are so dominant and it always
comes down in that playoff.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Oh, they're just sitting right there like a sore thumb
for some of those teams in the conference. He can't
break through against them. Now, this one's gonna be interesting.
Now to a tongue of Iola, the quarterback of the
Miami Dumpigs, got ye, all right, they're two and seven
right now. He's had mistake prone football all year long.
(37:51):
They did give him a big contract. There are ways
to wiggle out of that, as we've seen with Denver,
Yeah and other teams. I'll make this prediction. He won't
beat the Dolphins quarterback in three years, and I think
he's gonna end up down the mac Jones road. Wilson,
Yes too, wils that's right, Tua mac tua mac mac tua.
(38:13):
He'll end up in that same boat. In my opinion.
I maybe they changed coaches this year, maybe they reignite
his game. But he's been so dependent on everything around
him being right, christine and perfect. He's not an elevator,
and I see him being a guy that's a backup
in three years, not in Miami.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
I don't know where he falls and where he lands,
I should say, but he ain't gonna be with the
with the Dolphins, I.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Don't think so ether And I view this quarterback in
a similar light too, although he hasn't had as many accomplishments.
It's the Jets quarterback justin Fields. Oh yeah, now they
owe him some money next year, right, but there's nothing
that bounds them to justin Fields. And I think right now,
he had a good game a couple of weeks ago. Granted,
I mean he's had a couple of good games here
(39:00):
in there.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
But that's justin Fields.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
It's justin Fields, and so many coaches have tried to
get the most out of him to this point. When
I look at Fields, I see a backup. I see
a guy that's going to be bouncing around the league
in three years, probably not starting for any of these teams.
Like trying to find, within the context of this little
gamer plane, the next version of maybe a mac Jones.
If it doesn't work there, could it work somewhere else.
(39:22):
I don't see it with Fields. I could see it
more maybe with Tua than Fields, just based on his accuracy.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
You know.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
I feel like a decent place the fields might be
able to land and be pretty good backup Philly.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
That's not a bad They've got.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
The line, they've got the running game cooking. I mean,
maybe he goes to Philly in the next three years.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
That's actually a great fit because he's built similarly to
Jalen Hurts. He's got the strength and the lower body
to run some of those read options, and he can
throw the ball up top deep. That's actually a great fit.
He could be a backup in Philly. I could see that.
All right, here we go, Oh boy, Pittsburgh Steelers. Who knows,
I don't know. I'll turn it to you, Aaron Rodgers
(40:04):
in three years. Well, here's the thing. The question would be,
is he's still playing in three years. I can agree,
probably not.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
It doesn't seem like he wants to play, But he
knows what he wants.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I know, I know, I don't it's not gonna be
with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
And I shot me, well, what it is? An extended run?
Tomlin can't quit him. I think he's out of the
league by then. And he's talked about this before. When
he's out, they've asked him, Hey, do you want to
go into TV and new that? And he's like, no,
I want nothing to do. He'll disappear. He'll show up
me with that golf tournament in Tahoe every year with
(40:44):
the celebrities. Yeah, that's the only time I think you'll
ever see Aaron Rodgers again. Literally, So absorb it. Why
you can, if you're a big a rod fan, because
I don't think he's gonna be around much longer in
terms of either on the field or in the public spotlight.
Although he can call an audible fast if he gets
the feeling lonely. Yeah, Baltimore, Lamar.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Oh, he's in Baltimore. I don't see him going anywhere.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
No, not at all. He's one of the best quarterbacks
in the league. And if they just get a little
more competent around him in terms of receivers at times,
he can get over the hump and win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Burrow, this is a good We actually had somebody text
in yesterday on Riches Show asking about should the Bengals
dump Burrow or try and move a Jamar Chase and
try and bolster that O line.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
I just my problem with it is that I don't
know that if the office will move off of Joe Burrow,
they've got all their eggs in a basket and Joe Burrow
in these two whiteouts. But at the same time, I
look at it, are you doing to many favors?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Could he request a trade? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
Burrow is an interesting one, but I think he stays
with Cincy.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
I think by virtue what happened a few years ago
where they made it to the Super Bowl, they should
have won that game. They were so close against the Rams.
They went into Kansas City and beat them in the
playoffs in the championship game. But everything had to come
together perfectly. And what they had back then that they
don't have now is more in one good pass rusher.
They had good secondary players that were veterans that weren't
putting that slop out there like they did against the Bears.
(42:07):
So they had a defense that defense, and they had
an offensive line, and they had balance with their receivers.
And now they have paid out the rear in for
Big three, which is Burrow, Chase Higgins, and it leaves
them precious little capital for anything out. So yeah, I
don't disagree that maybe dumping Burrow could be an idea
if you can find sure, you can find a lot
of trade partners.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
If somebody pick him up.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
My prediction is he'll be there in three years. They
will be sort of like this team that puts up
a lot of big numbers. He'll get hurt once to
walk because he always does, and they're going to be
like a ten to eleven win team if he's healthy
every year, and they'll make a run to the playoffs.
But I don't think they're going to be in the
super Bowl unless they get a better overall team around
(42:49):
him at some point.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Which which quarterback?
Speaker 1 (42:51):
You picking? Browns? Yeah, well, I mean Blaco. Let's start
with him, obviously, Browns. It's okay, it's the Browns.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
You can't it's hard to keep up.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Let's do Flacco. By the way, dude, I don't know.
Might I guarantee he'll get a call. He'll be retired
for you. He'll get a call by somebody somebody needs
a quarterback for a week. He'll answer the back. All right,
Let's start with Cleveland here. What about DeShawn Watson, Oh, Mercy,
(43:26):
I forgot he played for the Bengals. I think oh
Man a whole prediction. I think that Shawn's going to
be starting somewhere else other than Cleveland. In three years,
and I think he'll be a solid player again. I
think I think he's I think he's gonna find himself.
I think this Cleveland thing was a nightmare. He brought
a lot of that stuff on him.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, Shawn Mayfield, Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I could see not maybe a Mayfield or Darnold level resurgence,
but I could see him back in the league somewhere else.
But I don't think he's ever going to start for
Cleveland again.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I don't think he's going to start for Cleveland, should
or should do.
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Somebody will take him. I honestly don't know if he'll
be with Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
And Dylan Gabriel. I just don't see a future for
the guy. Now. They're taking a quarterback next year, they
have to or go shopping for a guy like Mac Jones, Babe, Rot.
All right, we'll do the rest of the AFC when
we come back after this break. Get you started into
the second hour of this show. We'll also tackle the NFC,
where we're taking a look at all the quarterbacks around
(44:30):
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