This wee, Erica and Mila sit down with activist, podcaster, and former model Lisa J. Phillips. In honor of Sexual Assault Awareness Month (SAAM), Lisa courageously shares her story of grooming, abuse, the psychological aftermath and ultimately, reclaiming her power. Together, they explore the complex layers of trauma, the silent conditioning society places on women, and how survivors can find healing through truth-telling and connection.

Lisa opens up about the early days of her modeling career, how she unknowingly entered Epstein’s world, and the psychological grip that followed. She also discusses how launching her podcast From Now On became a lifeline — a space to share not only her story but those of other survivors navigating similar paths in the entertainment and creative industries.

⚠️ Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions of sexual assault and abuse.

You can expect to hear:

(4:00) – Introducing Lisa J. Phillips

Lisa joins the show. They discuss her work, her podcast From Now On, and her mission to uplift the voices of sexual assault survivors in entertainment.

(8:00) – Lisa’s Background in Modeling & the Fashion Industry

Lisa shares her career history, how she entered the modeling industry, and how she eventually crossed paths with Jeffrey Epstein.

(11:00) – The Island Encounter & Epstein’s Grooming Tactics

Lisa recounts her disturbing first encounter with Epstein and how grooming masked as generosity and mentorship drew her in.

(15:00) – Power Dynamics & Society’s Conditioning of Women

The hosts and Lisa discuss how women are conditioned to stay quiet, feel shame, and internalize blame, especially in male-dominated industries.

(19:00)– The Psychological Aftermath & Normalization of Abuse

Conversation around how young women often minimize or normalize abuse due to lack of awareness, fear, or manipulation.

(25:00) – The Long-Term Impact of Abuse & Coping Mechanisms

Lisa opens up about how she coped with trauma through partying, suppression, and the lasting effects on her self-worth and identity.

(30:00) – The Turning Point: Speaking Out & Confronting Epstein

Lisa explains the moment she realized she needed to walk away and the chilling conversation she had with Epstein before cutting ties.

(35:00) – Exposing the Hidden Network

A deeper dive into the darkness behind Epstein’s network, including Lisa’s revelations about Prince Andrew and the secrets many are still protecting.

(40:00) – Reflections on Childhood, Family Dynamics & Vulnerability

Lisa reflects on how her upbringing may have contributed to her vulnerability and desire for mentorship and validation from older men.

(48:00) – Collective Healing, Shared Stories & Suppressed Trauma

The hosts share personal experiences with assault, silence, and how society teaches women to disconnect from their intuition and voice.

(55:00) – The Path to Healing: Therapy, Community & Owning Your Story

Lisa shares how EMDR therapy and connecting with other survivors helped her begin to heal. The group discusses how community, honesty, and safe spaces are crucial in healing from sexual trauma.

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