July 31, 2025 • 28 mins
Chance weighs in on Kanye & Virgil’s influence…
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Chance the Rapper joins the Got Sole Podcast to talk about Kanye West’s creative influence, never before heard stories with Virgil Abloh, and how he turned his iconic “3” hat into a multi-million dollar brand. He reveals how he got gifted the Off-White Chicago 1s, why he sold his Red Octobers, and the business behind staying independent. Chance also shares thoughts on the Adidas vs Nike Yeezy era, and how he connects with fans in real life. He also shares what’s next for him and his new album Star Line…
Let us know your favorite part of the podcast and stay tuned for more episodes!
Video is available on the Got Sole Youtube channel.
Chance the Rapper joins the Got Sole Podcast to talk about Kanye West’s creative influence, never before heard stories with Virgil Abloh, and how he turned his iconic “3” hat into a multi-million dollar brand. He reveals how he got gifted the Off-White Chicago 1s, why he sold his Red Octobers, and the business behind staying independent. Chance also shares thoughts on the Adidas vs Nike Yeezy era, and how he connects with fans in real life. He also shares what’s next for him and his new album Star Line…
Let us know your favorite part of the podcast and stay tuned for more episodes!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Chance the Rapper here at Godsoul. We just walked in.
I got to do a quick little intro before we
get into it, because we got the legend. Joey and
I we are huge Chance the Rapper fans, and we'll
get into that. We'll talk about that a little bit,
but first I got to give you a formal intro.
My friend. Okay, today we have the three time Grammy
Award winning artist without a label, one of Chicago's most
(00:20):
influential artists of all time, the first independent artist to
go Diamond, a past intern of Barack Obama, and the
man who was the unofficial soundtrack of Godsoul, Chance the Rapper.
Welcome to the Godsol Podcast. Thank you so much for
me intro. Of course, of course Chance, I told you
a little bit about this story off camera. But Godsoul
the podcast, what we've done here is really to tell
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people to behind the scenes. They see all this celebrity stuff,
they see Godsoul growing the way it is, but they
don't know how it got here. And Gotsoul started in
twenty thirteen. We started it as kids, fourteen and sixteen
year old kids living in a trailer and you dropped
acid wrap in the beginning of twenty thirteen, Is that right? Yeah,
we were a fan. I was a fan of Chance
Family is my favorite on ten Day. But either way,
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that album Acid Wrap, we loved so much. Every time
we announce an event, So for you guys at home,
this is some BTS info for you. We gotta post
all this stuff. We gotta post the tickets, we gotta
post Instagram, we gotta change the bio, you know, one
hundred different things on social media gotta get adjusted. Right,
But before that happens, Let's say, if we're gonna announce
an event for a new city at seven pm, it's
six fifty eight, six fifty nine, I do a quick
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little prayer, I take a few deep breaths, and the
second that that clock hits seven o'clock, before I hit
publish the tickets or before I hit post on Instagram,
we hit play on Acid Wrap and we start with
good intro and it goes all the way through. We
would even before you added the ten year anniversary. We
would even go to YouTube to listen to Juice after
hearing the Social Works plug and then go back to
(01:47):
push after that. So that's how deep it real.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He's not even kidding like he would actually pause everything
right after the right after the social works, go to YouTube,
run it all the way through.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Then star and we've never missed an event to this day.
And one kind of inkling of how we are always excited.
We we love what we do. This is Joey and
I and all the whole Godsoap family's life. It really is.
But one inkling when I know how excited we really
are about an event is when that even better than
I was the last time comes on. How that feels
in my chest? Right there? Am I do? I have
the butterflies? I must be really excited about that event?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So we have been fans of you and welcome to
the show, and my friend, we are so thankful.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
To have you. No, I wanted to be here.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
This is an incredible event, dude, and y'all should be
super proud of what y'all built. And just hearing your
story and how y'all built it yourselves independently is like
it's inspiring.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Thank you for real. Yeah, we are so inspired by you.
We gotta start. We start every podcast. What's on the
feet today? Tell us what these are?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Low key like kind of my kick around shoes like
I just flew in from from LA and okay, almost.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Wore an airplane fit to here. Almost were like.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Sweatpants, oh come, But I was like, let me put
on my you know, my coldest T shirt. Guy, let
me put on you know what I'm saying, some nice pants.
And then I kept my airport shoes on. But I
got you know what I'm saying, like, I feel like
everybody has shoes that they wear that make them feel good,
and then you have like kind of just how you
step in.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Right, you know. Okay, Okay, so you were thinking about
going bummy on us for a second. Every I wasn't that.
It wasn't that I was going bumm it.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Literally, I was just like I was exhausted, and I
was like, man, sweats is gonna do it, tank top
is gonna do it because it's gonna be hot there.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And then I was like, that's cap I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Be on camera.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
So so I was like, let me just you know,
doing some nice pants.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I mean you're talking about what's on feet.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah. I was expecting and I was really hoping.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I knew it wasn't gonna happen, but I thought you
were gonna pull those out again.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
The Red October's. Yeah, man, it's so crazy that I
had these, like and you had them, you got rid
of them.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Man, I just thought, I'm not you know what I'm saying,
Like I loved them, but also like there was a
point you know what I'm saying where he split with Nike,
and I felt like, you know, as a person, like
as a friend, I.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Shouldn't have them choice no more so I trusted him.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, but like you know what I'm saying, Like I
loved everything that he did with Adidas.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But yeah, when I was a kid like that, I
honestly was not.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
A sneaker head or didn't really care or understand, you
know what I'm saying, sneaker culture really until the first
Easies dropped right and saw like, you know, one of
my best friends, Justin he literally camped outside of Leaders
thirteen fifty four out here, which was like the first
and like the biggest like streetwear brand store, and they
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had an exclusive license for for all the Easies when
they would come out, and so he slept outside the store.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We were like, I don't know, like sophomore is in
high school, like four fifteen.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
This was a big deal that his mom let him
sleep on the street, just random store, and I.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Was just like it and I started just learning more.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
But yeah, I remember when the red octobers came out later,
I think he gifted him to me. Doesn't even sound
r because I don't think he wanted them to come
out by the time I got him.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So I think somebody, yeah, we've just posted I was,
you know, I was eating my bag. I found a
random Facebook old rail of you, and then I actually
linked it back to your Instagram post and I forget
the catch. We'll pop it up on the screen for
everyone to see. But it's literally a video of ding
of you pulling him out of your trunk of your car,
saying thank you Nike and Kanye, and then you just
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hitting it in a video dancing.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Man, I don't know what it was. I don't remember
the exact timeline. I know that I got them. If
I said I got him from Nike.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And Kanye, no you did it because I remember something.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Remember the whole like and I'm gonna stop holding these bits,
but like I remember like being a whole thing, like
he was trying to figure out the release. They wouldn't
let him release it, and they wouldn't tell him when
they were going to release.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Because he called it the Red October. They came out
February ninth, twenty fourteen, so obviously not October, right right,
that makes sense. Yeah, you gotta tellus the story behind this.
I mean, you know, off White Chicago Jordan one, you
had your own pair with little air channel on it, Like,
tell us about signed by Virgin herself.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, that was Virgil was just like incredibly special dude,
Like everybody will tell you that, so I don't have
to spend too much time on but just like from
obviously a design standpoint and just like a creative and
an artist, like.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I believe he's own paralleled, he has.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
His, he had his, he had his own you know,
just ideas on how things should work and how in design,
but also as a person like he was just somebody
that every time I saw him from a young age,
like when I first started, because he was always in Chicago,
he was just always like showing love and like you know,
asking me how things was going. And I'm talking about
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like really early on and so yeah, I remember when
he did the Jordan ones, he was making custom pairs
for each for different people in his life, and when
I got him, I didn't I didn't understand how important
they were gonna be. So they were like my kick around.
She was like, I will walk around like a lot
of the markers faded off online.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Like yeah, you can even see that, like on like
there's a professional photo of you on the Late show
wearing them. Yeah, and like you can see like half
of like the signatures written off, And it's like.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's like, I mean, like do you know how much
that would go?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
You know how much assigned pair of Virgil?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, I would never sell those stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But like the thing is like there's still I know
the story behind it.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I know that he that he gifted them to me
because partially because he had love for me and partially
because he believed that me wearing them would be important.
And so I like back in the day, Now I
got a stylist, but for a long time, I would
go on late night shows. I was not getting style.
I wouldn't getting clothes from people, so I would wear
like the fleets I had, like the best stuff that
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I had, And so yeah, it's it's so crazy, man,
I remember getting these shoes and like that was way before,
like you were seeing Virgil stuff in stores and.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I think literally the day before he passed, I was just.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
In sacks on some random with basically I just remember.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Seeing his his his sneaker in the stores he had
just did uh, I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Who he did his.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh no, they were just off whites.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
They were just off white shoes.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
It was it was his own silhouette and everything, and
and they were in the stores of sex. And the
next day I found out that he passed because a
lot of people didn't know he was sick.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Obviously I didn't know he.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Was sick, and so it's just a blessed thing to
I'm just like it's all coming back to me just
thinking about the fact that he gifted me the shoes
and how like, you know, just raw he was.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, it's incredible. I mean, you've gotten a lot of
great gifts. We mentioned two of them. We saw you
had the air Max ninety seven off whites. I could
imagine those probably might have been a gift from Virgil
or whatever it might have been. To do you have
a favorite gift that you ever got in the sneaker
a streetwear.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
World favorite sneakers. I was gifted.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Let me think about that. It was probably the Virgils,
probably those yeah, like with the signature.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, and then Jordan Ones and it was like like
the laces, like my laces was like double laced and
like he just like I.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Don't know, it was from the creative himself.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Chance, We've got three fan questions we're gonna share with you, Okay,
So I'll give you a fan question. We asked the
fans give us a question. These are the three we liked.
First one, ac cording to Forward's networth, thirty three million.
Got the three hat there you sold a lot of
three hats, But is that accurate? Thirty three Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
No, I'm walking around Chicago every day. Don't tell people think.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Okay, next question, if you had to say, how many
three hats do you own?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Man, yeah, this joint right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
This is one.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's okay, my personal collection, like twenty five, twenty five okay.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Fair enough.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And I got a I was doing a bunch of
research to one of the most viewed clips of just
you in general? Is you on Joe Budden?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, and you know the line, Yeah, I made six
million in one year off of those hats.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
That was a that's like really thanks to the the
ability to do wholesale and I feel like anybody that
like works with like that's a that's a person. That's
not a person I'm sorry, like a personality or celebrity.
Doing likeness deals or ip deals is like your main
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way that they offer you to get into these worlds.
Like you're not usually manufacturing or getting wholesale items to
then sell to your fans. You're getting a percentage off
of what people sell. So this was like the first
time I think I'm pretty sure that somebody did a non.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Non royalty deal.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
On the hats. So interesting.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That's why when you ask me how many I own?
I thought you meant like how many do I have
in my warehouse? You're saying how many do I have.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Money in the warehouse?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's real, Okay, two unbelievable gifts between the red octobers
and you know, the signed off or tries. But I
gotta ask you, you know those are free ninety nine.
What's the most you've spent on a particular sneaker or
you know, clothing item, on.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Any clothing I probably ridiculous amounts of money, like I
buy more like uh, I spend more money on like
layering stuff, so like I like jackets a lot, you know,
I like, I think the most I spent that that's
coming to my to my mind.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I can't remember which what they were called, but it
was like.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
The gray and uh like pink color way of the
original original nikeasies.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Man, I wish I remember.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
He's thinking about they can and pink or they gray
and like orange yellow.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
He's talking about sounds about right, what was the pink one?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
The other one's net tan, and then the other one
is the one that I think you're talking about, is
the zen gray. It's gray and that a little bit
of like pink slash orange.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Not these ones, right, these are the tans. So it
wasn't this color or was it this color?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Damn? I can't tell. Show me the other ones, the
ones that are it's all burned. So you bought those,
my friend justin was those ones?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
How much did you spend?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I don't know, an exorbitan amount of money to be
in high school was probably like two hundred dollars or something.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Hey, if you got the easy ones, two hundred dollars.
I'm very jealous because I'm not paid.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Well, it wasn't like a direct resale. This was like
later in time. They were too small for my feet.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Like wow, But yeah, obviously, like you said, you got
gifted the Red Octobers and you were buying the Easy
ones the most you ever spent on a shoe. But
like you said, as a friend of Kanye and someone
who you were working closely with at that time, when
he went to Adidas, it's like, Okay, I'm probably not
gonna wear that Nike stuff, Like he's not with that
brand anymore. The Adidas Easy is like that wave Runner.
We have photos. Are you wearing those? Like you were
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wearing a lot of the Adidas Easy stuff? Like would
you go with the Adidas Easy stuff or the Nike Easies?
That's a really good question.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I feel like there's just so much more to work
with on the Adida side, Like I feel like he
revolutionized footwear in a lot of ways with all of
the silhouettes that he did at Adidas, because I mean
even just the sandals, the flip flap joint, It's like
the design of them joint is how they stay on
your feet, how they are so comfortable, like all of
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the and then I just feel like this this style,
this like retro, like retro futurists.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Vibe like came back around these sneakers.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
This was like this stuff and the stuff that he
was doing with the original nikeasies I felt like was
really like futuristic, but it wasn't as much about function
as it was about like the shape and like being different.
So I love those from an artistic standpoint. But then
there's just like there's way more stuff that he did
with the DTAs that I, you know, can what's the
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word that I admire?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I don't know, Okay, in that time when he's coming
out with that shoe and a lot of the shoes
that we're talking about now this is closely when you
guys are doing a lot of work together, you know,
ultral like beam Era. Did you ever have any influence
on any of the easy designs or nah?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I I just liked, like I feel like my affinity
for which like it's still not at a like a
super high level, mainly came from like.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
His designs and clothes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Like I feel like he did a lot of stuff
that made me go like, oh, this is this is artistic.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
You know what I mean, And maybe it's just his
passion around it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Well, so I was gonna ask you that any like
behind the scenes, like Kanye the passionate, you know, clothing
desider any behind the scenes Kanye stories of just like wow,
he had this thing with the yeezis or this fashion
thing and I couldn't believe it. Or he showed me
this and I was wowed. Any any behind the scenes
Kanye stories in that realm.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Not really, I mean I remember one time he was
talking about jeans, like he got like like not wearing denim.
This is I don't remember what year this was, but
he made like a really good point about like denim
being restricting and like and That's what I'm talking about,
is like fashion is form and function, right, So it's
like the form the shapes the arttistic standpoint of it,
what it looks like, and then the function of like
how it's used and how it creates comfort or creates
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or it can be used as utility. And I feel
like he was talking about from a from a function standpoint,
like the denim was just too restricted and it was
just having a long conversation about it. That made a
lot of sense, and I agree, Like, I don't really
be trying to wear denim unless it's like very loose.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know what I mean. But like when it's no
skinny jeans.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
But it's funny because that's made everybody want to wear
Skenny jeans, you know what I mean. So it was like,
but it's like the point was made.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I felt.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I felt him when he said.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Wow, that's so interesting. Wow. Okay, So personally, I think
it's so interesting with Kanye specifically, he's obviously the music
we all know, that's why people fell in love with him.
But then the fashion, the sneakers, like and these two
things both were massive. You had that you know, multi
hyphen it kind of artistic side to him. You recorded
as saying he's the greatest artist of all time. He's
still like now, like, yeah, he's still the greatest.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
It's not it's not that my opinion changed over time.
But when I said that, I might have just been ecstatic. Right,
He's He's probably my biggest influence in music.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Okay, you're Mount Rushmore, your rapper hip hop Mount Rushmore,
who's on it?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
My rap Mount Rushmore?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I don't know. I don't like doing Mount Rushmore's cause who.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Are a few just people? You don't have to say four then,
just like who are a few people that come to
your mind?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Like all these my favorites, who I want to shine
light on just for is Stevie Wonder. I know he's
I just want to say he is like our greatest
living artist, right and he's still alive and he's like, yeah, no,
I was just saying shout out to Stevie Wonder, like
he's he's also my biggest influence and.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
He's still creating and still.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Performing and his catalog is just unmatched.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And so I always just think about Stevie and the
fact that I'm alive at the same time as him.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You know, we need to know about star Line, right,
Like what was so crazy to us is like the
day that we announced that you were going to be
the show. It is either the day or the day before,
like you announced that the album was coming, and like
as a chance the rapper fan myself, it's like we've
been waiting for this, like big day. Of course, loved
it great, you know, do you remember is my favorite off?
But either way, it's like we've been waiting for star
(17:14):
or an album. Tell us about Starline. I'll let you
just give you the mic on that.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah, Starlin is like I was just talking to my
dad about it, Like, I feel like it's my most
intentional and well written project, and I feel like there's
a lot of like.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Across all the songs.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I think there's a song on there, regardless of who
the person is, that I think will bring people to tears,
and not like in a way that it's so like
heart wrenching or anything, but like that weight that you
were talking about, Like there is a familiarity and a
newness to all of the music. It's got a lot
of like inspiration from a lot of different sounds that
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were in my past projects. My favorite things about it
is the sampling on the album. I think like when
I made an ass A Rap, I was moving freely
still and I was a little bit more conscious of
what I wanted from the production side, and so I
was really going to producers and being like this is
what I want, this is.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
What I want, and.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I didn't have to clear stuff because it was early
in the streaming game.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, and when I made Color and Book and the big.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Day, you know, like I was getting taxed for every
thing I wanted to use, and so I was way
less eager to use samples, especially popular samples, right, And
so with this one, it's really going back to some
hip hop stuff where it's like that is a big
part of hip hop since the beginning started with record
scratching and like you know, taking from other songs and
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flipping them. So I think that's gonna be one of
the things that people talk about the most in the project.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And then.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, just it's it's about that time, Like I feel
like it's a it's a good time. It's probably the
perfect time for this, for this exact kind of music
to come out.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Tell us tell us about Tree as well. You needn't
know about.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Tree, yeah, because you just dropped that and obviously you
and Wayne obviously Smino wanted to. But you and Wayne,
you know, like Peanut Butter and Jelly, So tell us
a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, Wayne is one of my biggest influences, Like yeah, no,
Wayne is is the uh playing a supporting role in
a lot of like my my biggest moments in my
music career.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
The first time I want to Grammy was on a
song with ol Wayne. The first time that I had
a number one record was on a song with Lil Wayne.
The first time I got a Diamond record was.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
On a song with Lil Wayne. He's been there for.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
A lot of things in life, just like in my
in my musical career, and sometimes maybe I don't talk
about it enough, but like I just respect him as
a person and his legacy so much. It was one
day he was in town on tour and he said
he wanted to stop by the studio. He came through,
(20:09):
we smoked, listened to some music, and he heard Tree,
which had been around for about a year by then,
this is like two years ago now, and he, uh, yeah,
he jumped on the record, killed it, and just put
me in a in a position of confidence going into
the album because I always feel good when I'm working
with I love that.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, I was, you know, obviously we were doing our research,
but obviously we know and you were just referring to
I'm the one. Yeah, you know that song you know
will go down in history.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, can you tell me or give me a guest
on how many plays do you think that song has
on YouTube alone?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I don't know millions millions for show eight.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
No, actually, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you if every
single person in the United States, three hundred and forty
million people played that song twenty three times times eight,
thats how many plays it. That's eight point one billion
on billion.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I did not know that. You say eight billion, eight
point one billion, that's to say that's like the population
of the Earth.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Did you know that song was gonna be like the
one when it dropped?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Literally, I don't know. I think I trusted the process.
Shout out to Justin Bieber. Also you feel me.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Shout out to DJ Khalt, shout out to uh everybody
that Quavo at the Colintility.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
The director, Like, I feel like it was an all
star team of people that came.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Together to make that record what it was.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
And uh, I think it happened at a at a
perfect time for everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
And so I didn't know that it was going to
be a diamond record.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I didn't know it was gonna be a you know,
like a song that gets requested so much of my
shows and like it's.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
A very like a lot of people like it in
other countries.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
That's the other thing that's like it translates well think
and so.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I'll still I'll still be performing that song.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I love it, I love it. Okay, Well, we got to
know about one thing. We're talking about Starline, we're talking
about the music, talking about what you're up to now,
we can't wait to hear it. You've been doing these
listening sessions with fans. Can you tell us a little
bit about that.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, So, like I've.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Been really getting into the arts, the visual arts, working
with painters, working with sculptures, all different types of like
artists in making Starline to like kind of bring a
visual representation to aage song. And as I got better
with the with those visual arts, I started moving into
the audio visual arts, so like you know, like projection
and lighting mixed with audio mixed with music, right, And
(22:38):
so I started building these experiences to test it out
with my fans, where I would you know, create a
show based around the music where you experienced the album
in real time, but you haven't enhanced listening experience. So
we have like a sound system that we designed that
works with subs and like sign and disco head phones.
(23:02):
It's something you really got to be there to experience
and understand what it is. But like it's been super
like I've just been grateful for it because I got
to see the real people, like you know, like you're
just like you guys have these like there's people that
have probably been to like ten of your events, have
got so the those people that love you and love
(23:23):
you like that, Like they don't always get an experience
to like sit with you and understand like the.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Ethos of why you do what you do or like.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
You know, like really look at the mechanics behind a
given project. And so when they get to do that,
when I it's me and you know, it's like thirty people,
it's not like it's not like a thousand fans. It's
me and thirty people, sometimes up to fifty people, but
like small rooms enhanced experience literally like an acid trip,
(23:51):
and it's like you go through the songs, you feel
what like you literally feel it, You understand the lyrics,
and you get like a video, uh.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Exposition of what's going on.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's insane. Wow, that's once in a lifetime experience to
say the least.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Wow, I'm close to those fans forever now too.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
You know what I mean like, it's like those are
people that like, you know, I got to hear questions
directly from I've seen some people out in public since then,
because I've been said he's like New Orleans, LA, DC,
Miami like places that I be that I frequent that
I go to a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
So I just ran on somebody in LA.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
It was like, remember me, I was at the listening
party and I did recognize he's super tall dude, shout
out to folks. He was at, uh like that. I
ran into do He was like, we're reset. No, shout
out to bro.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Though, but yeah, it's cool radible. Okay, wow, Okay, So
we've talked. We've talked Starlin, We've talked to everything you
got going on. I can't wait to hear it. My
birth month is July, so I'm hoping that we're coming
close on it.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Oh yeah, we only got this very uh click click,
who knows, who knows.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
We're gonna show you a couple of shoes. We just
want you to rank it, like if it was a draft.
Let's pretend it's the NBA draft. You just pick with
the number one, pick two, three, four, five. We got
some classics. We got the bape s does we got,
we got the reebok uh Kanye's. We got the Nike ones,
the Adidas, we have all sorts of stuff. Just oh,
the easy slides that you mentioned. If you had to
pick the top five of these, just based off what
your taste is, what would you pick?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I have a prescription for glasses, but I don't wear them.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Okay, let's say, Mike, can you bring that thing a
little bit closer to them?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Thank you? Now I can tell their shoes.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Let's see with laces, actually not all of my blaces.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Hmm.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
You know what's funny. I didn't know Kanye did babes this. Yes,
I knew he did those.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
He did like some Louis Baton shoes at some.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Point, right, yes, that Louis right?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, I used to love those.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Okay, my topics, I love those. The number one pick
and the sneaker draft is, oh the number one of
what you see here? One. I'll probably go with the
wave Runners wave Runners. Oh, okay, the seven hundred V
three is? I love that shoe? Number one? This one
(26:11):
good shoe? I have them? Yeah, okay, that's number one.
What's number two?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Just based off of design?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Ye give me the slides of two easy slides. Okay,
let's just do three. Give us the third pick. We're
gonna make it hard.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
The three fifties.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Three fifties, Okay, Zebra's right there. Okay, good, that's a
good one. Two three. I mean I would say maybe
some of the Louis Vuitton stuff, but I think it's
a good thing.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
The Louis Vaittan's ship was the first time that I
was like, oh, I get it fashion as a thing.
I feel like I didn't have like the expertise or
money when I was in eighth grade to like go
support him.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I wanted to thanks.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
We are so grateful, like I said, to have you
at the show. Like I said, I think a beautiful thing.
God Sould is an independent business, right. We started it
without any investors, any backers, and we grew it that way.
You grew your career and business independently as well, and
you stayed strong to your values. You did it as
a family man, You did it as just an overall
positive person. I was saying this the other day. There's
not you know, as a stereotype an artist from Chicago
(27:27):
that isn't rapping about the you know, the things that
a lot of artists from Chicago are known about rapping about.
To have gotten as famous as you have and to
have been successful you have while keeping the values you have,
I think is an admirable thing. We're proud to have
you as a part of our brand and our event
and we just want to say thank you. But we
only speak for us too. The last question we have
for you to end the show is you have literally
millions of fans. One message for the fans at home
(27:50):
to end out.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
The show, oh man, keep going and there's always tomorrow.
Health is wealth, pray, get your get your sleep, get
your breast, and go stream Tree.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Go, stream Tree, star line the album coming out. Chance.
Thank you so much. Let's go, Let's go sneak ahoping,
Let's do Let's do it my guy like like comma
subscribe until the next one chance to rapper. We'll see
you
Chance the Rapper here at Godsoul. We just walked in.
I got to do a quick little intro before we
get into it, because we got the legend. Joey and
I we are huge Chance the Rapper fans, and we'll
get into that. We'll talk about that a little bit,
but first I got to give you a formal intro.
My friend. Okay, today we have the three time Grammy
Award winning artist without a label, one of Chicago's most
(00:20):
influential artists of all time, the first independent artist to
go Diamond, a past intern of Barack Obama, and the
man who was the unofficial soundtrack of Godsoul, Chance the Rapper.
Welcome to the Godsol Podcast. Thank you so much for
me intro. Of course, of course Chance, I told you
a little bit about this story off camera. But Godsoul
the podcast, what we've done here is really to tell
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people to behind the scenes. They see all this celebrity stuff,
they see Godsoul growing the way it is, but they
don't know how it got here. And Gotsoul started in
twenty thirteen. We started it as kids, fourteen and sixteen
year old kids living in a trailer and you dropped
acid wrap in the beginning of twenty thirteen, Is that right? Yeah,
we were a fan. I was a fan of Chance
Family is my favorite on ten Day. But either way,
(01:04):
that album Acid Wrap, we loved so much. Every time
we announce an event, So for you guys at home,
this is some BTS info for you. We gotta post
all this stuff. We gotta post the tickets, we gotta
post Instagram, we gotta change the bio, you know, one
hundred different things on social media gotta get adjusted. Right,
But before that happens, Let's say, if we're gonna announce
an event for a new city at seven pm, it's
six fifty eight, six fifty nine, I do a quick
(01:25):
little prayer, I take a few deep breaths, and the
second that that clock hits seven o'clock, before I hit
publish the tickets or before I hit post on Instagram,
we hit play on Acid Wrap and we start with
good intro and it goes all the way through. We
would even before you added the ten year anniversary. We
would even go to YouTube to listen to Juice after
hearing the Social Works plug and then go back to
(01:47):
push after that. So that's how deep it real.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He's not even kidding like he would actually pause everything
right after the right after the social works, go to YouTube,
run it all the way through.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Then star and we've never missed an event to this day.
And one kind of inkling of how we are always excited.
We we love what we do. This is Joey and
I and all the whole Godsoap family's life. It really is.
But one inkling when I know how excited we really
are about an event is when that even better than
I was the last time comes on. How that feels
in my chest? Right there? Am I do? I have
the butterflies? I must be really excited about that event?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
So we have been fans of you and welcome to
the show, and my friend, we are so thankful.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
To have you. No, I wanted to be here.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
This is an incredible event, dude, and y'all should be
super proud of what y'all built. And just hearing your
story and how y'all built it yourselves independently is like
it's inspiring.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Thank you for real. Yeah, we are so inspired by you.
We gotta start. We start every podcast. What's on the
feet today? Tell us what these are?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Low key like kind of my kick around shoes like
I just flew in from from LA and okay, almost.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Wore an airplane fit to here. Almost were like.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Sweatpants, oh come, But I was like, let me put
on my you know, my coldest T shirt. Guy, let
me put on you know what I'm saying, some nice pants.
And then I kept my airport shoes on. But I
got you know what I'm saying, like, I feel like
everybody has shoes that they wear that make them feel good,
and then you have like kind of just how you
step in.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Right, you know. Okay, Okay, so you were thinking about
going bummy on us for a second. Every I wasn't that.
It wasn't that I was going bumm it.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Literally, I was just like I was exhausted, and I
was like, man, sweats is gonna do it, tank top
is gonna do it because it's gonna be hot there.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And then I was like, that's cap I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Be on camera.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
So so I was like, let me just you know,
doing some nice pants.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, I mean you're talking about what's on feet.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah. I was expecting and I was really hoping.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I knew it wasn't gonna happen, but I thought you
were gonna pull those out again.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
The Red October's. Yeah, man, it's so crazy that I
had these, like and you had them, you got rid
of them.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Man, I just thought, I'm not you know what I'm saying,
Like I loved them, but also like there was a
point you know what I'm saying where he split with Nike,
and I felt like, you know, as a person, like
as a friend, I.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Shouldn't have them choice no more so I trusted him.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, but like you know what I'm saying, Like I
loved everything that he did with Adidas.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
But yeah, when I was a kid like that, I
honestly was not.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
A sneaker head or didn't really care or understand, you
know what I'm saying, sneaker culture really until the first
Easies dropped right and saw like, you know, one of
my best friends, Justin he literally camped outside of Leaders
thirteen fifty four out here, which was like the first
and like the biggest like streetwear brand store, and they
(04:36):
had an exclusive license for for all the Easies when
they would come out, and so he slept outside the store.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We were like, I don't know, like sophomore is in
high school, like four fifteen.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
This was a big deal that his mom let him
sleep on the street, just random store, and I.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Was just like it and I started just learning more.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
But yeah, I remember when the red octobers came out later,
I think he gifted him to me. Doesn't even sound
r because I don't think he wanted them to come
out by the time I got him.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So I think somebody, yeah, we've just posted I was,
you know, I was eating my bag. I found a
random Facebook old rail of you, and then I actually
linked it back to your Instagram post and I forget
the catch. We'll pop it up on the screen for
everyone to see. But it's literally a video of ding
of you pulling him out of your trunk of your car,
saying thank you Nike and Kanye, and then you just
(05:24):
hitting it in a video dancing.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Man, I don't know what it was. I don't remember
the exact timeline. I know that I got them. If
I said I got him from Nike.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
And Kanye, no you did it because I remember something.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, but I.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Remember the whole like and I'm gonna stop holding these bits,
but like I remember like being a whole thing, like
he was trying to figure out the release. They wouldn't
let him release it, and they wouldn't tell him when
they were going to release.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Because he called it the Red October. They came out
February ninth, twenty fourteen, so obviously not October, right right,
that makes sense. Yeah, you gotta tellus the story behind this.
I mean, you know, off White Chicago Jordan one, you
had your own pair with little air channel on it, Like,
tell us about signed by Virgin herself.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, that was Virgil was just like incredibly special dude,
Like everybody will tell you that, so I don't have
to spend too much time on but just like from
obviously a design standpoint and just like a creative and
an artist, like.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I believe he's own paralleled, he has.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
His, he had his, he had his own you know,
just ideas on how things should work and how in design,
but also as a person like he was just somebody
that every time I saw him from a young age,
like when I first started, because he was always in Chicago,
he was just always like showing love and like you know,
asking me how things was going. And I'm talking about
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like really early on and so yeah, I remember when
he did the Jordan ones, he was making custom pairs
for each for different people in his life, and when
I got him, I didn't I didn't understand how important
they were gonna be. So they were like my kick around.
She was like, I will walk around like a lot
of the markers faded off online.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Like yeah, you can even see that, like on like
there's a professional photo of you on the Late show
wearing them. Yeah, and like you can see like half
of like the signatures written off, And it's like.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's like, I mean, like do you know how much
that would go?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
You know how much assigned pair of Virgil?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, I would never sell those stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
But like the thing is like there's still I know
the story behind it.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I know that he that he gifted them to me
because partially because he had love for me and partially
because he believed that me wearing them would be important.
And so I like back in the day, Now I
got a stylist, but for a long time, I would
go on late night shows. I was not getting style.
I wouldn't getting clothes from people, so I would wear
like the fleets I had, like the best stuff that
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I had, And so yeah, it's it's so crazy, man,
I remember getting these shoes and like that was way before,
like you were seeing Virgil stuff in stores and.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I think literally the day before he passed, I was just.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
In sacks on some random with basically I just remember.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Seeing his his his sneaker in the stores he had
just did uh, I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Who he did his.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Oh no, they were just off whites.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
They were just off white shoes.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
It was it was his own silhouette and everything, and
and they were in the stores of sex. And the
next day I found out that he passed because a
lot of people didn't know he was sick.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Obviously I didn't know he.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Was sick, and so it's just a blessed thing to
I'm just like it's all coming back to me just
thinking about the fact that he gifted me the shoes
and how like, you know, just raw he was.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, it's incredible. I mean, you've gotten a lot of
great gifts. We mentioned two of them. We saw you
had the air Max ninety seven off whites. I could
imagine those probably might have been a gift from Virgil
or whatever it might have been. To do you have
a favorite gift that you ever got in the sneaker
a streetwear.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
World favorite sneakers. I was gifted.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Let me think about that. It was probably the Virgils,
probably those yeah, like with the signature.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, and then Jordan Ones and it was like like
the laces, like my laces was like double laced and
like he just like I.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Don't know, it was from the creative himself.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Chance, We've got three fan questions we're gonna share with you, Okay,
So I'll give you a fan question. We asked the
fans give us a question. These are the three we liked.
First one, ac cording to Forward's networth, thirty three million.
Got the three hat there you sold a lot of
three hats, But is that accurate? Thirty three Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
No, I'm walking around Chicago every day. Don't tell people think.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Okay, next question, if you had to say, how many
three hats do you own?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Man, yeah, this joint right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
This is one.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
It's okay, my personal collection, like twenty five, twenty five okay.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Fair enough.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And I got a I was doing a bunch of
research to one of the most viewed clips of just
you in general? Is you on Joe Budden?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, and you know the line, Yeah, I made six
million in one year off of those hats.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
That was a that's like really thanks to the the
ability to do wholesale and I feel like anybody that
like works with like that's a that's a person. That's
not a person I'm sorry, like a personality or celebrity.
Doing likeness deals or ip deals is like your main
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way that they offer you to get into these worlds.
Like you're not usually manufacturing or getting wholesale items to
then sell to your fans. You're getting a percentage off
of what people sell. So this was like the first
time I think I'm pretty sure that somebody did a non.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Non royalty deal.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
On the hats. So interesting.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
That's why when you ask me how many I own?
I thought you meant like how many do I have
in my warehouse? You're saying how many do I have.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Money in the warehouse?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's real, Okay, two unbelievable gifts between the red octobers
and you know, the signed off or tries. But I
gotta ask you, you know those are free ninety nine.
What's the most you've spent on a particular sneaker or
you know, clothing item, on.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Any clothing I probably ridiculous amounts of money, like I
buy more like uh, I spend more money on like
layering stuff, so like I like jackets a lot, you know,
I like, I think the most I spent that that's
coming to my to my mind.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I can't remember which what they were called, but it
was like.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
The gray and uh like pink color way of the
original original nikeasies.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Man, I wish I remember.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
He's thinking about they can and pink or they gray
and like orange yellow.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
He's talking about sounds about right, what was the pink one?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
The other one's net tan, and then the other one
is the one that I think you're talking about, is
the zen gray. It's gray and that a little bit
of like pink slash orange.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Not these ones, right, these are the tans. So it
wasn't this color or was it this color?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Damn? I can't tell. Show me the other ones, the
ones that are it's all burned. So you bought those,
my friend justin was those ones?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
How much did you spend?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I don't know, an exorbitan amount of money to be
in high school was probably like two hundred dollars or something.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Hey, if you got the easy ones, two hundred dollars.
I'm very jealous because I'm not paid.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Well, it wasn't like a direct resale. This was like
later in time. They were too small for my feet.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Like wow, But yeah, obviously, like you said, you got
gifted the Red Octobers and you were buying the Easy
ones the most you ever spent on a shoe. But
like you said, as a friend of Kanye and someone
who you were working closely with at that time, when
he went to Adidas, it's like, Okay, I'm probably not
gonna wear that Nike stuff, Like he's not with that
brand anymore. The Adidas Easy is like that wave Runner.
We have photos. Are you wearing those? Like you were
(12:35):
wearing a lot of the Adidas Easy stuff? Like would
you go with the Adidas Easy stuff or the Nike Easies?
That's a really good question.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
I feel like there's just so much more to work
with on the Adida side, Like I feel like he
revolutionized footwear in a lot of ways with all of
the silhouettes that he did at Adidas, because I mean
even just the sandals, the flip flap joint, It's like
the design of them joint is how they stay on
your feet, how they are so comfortable, like all of
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the and then I just feel like this this style,
this like retro, like retro futurists.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Vibe like came back around these sneakers.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
This was like this stuff and the stuff that he
was doing with the original nikeasies I felt like was
really like futuristic, but it wasn't as much about function
as it was about like the shape and like being different.
So I love those from an artistic standpoint. But then
there's just like there's way more stuff that he did
with the DTAs that I, you know, can what's the
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word that I admire?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I don't know, Okay, in that time when he's coming
out with that shoe and a lot of the shoes
that we're talking about now this is closely when you
guys are doing a lot of work together, you know,
ultral like beam Era. Did you ever have any influence
on any of the easy designs or nah?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
I I just liked, like I feel like my affinity
for which like it's still not at a like a
super high level, mainly came from like.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
His designs and clothes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Like I feel like he did a lot of stuff
that made me go like, oh, this is this is artistic.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
You know what I mean, And maybe it's just his
passion around it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Well, so I was gonna ask you that any like
behind the scenes, like Kanye the passionate, you know, clothing
desider any behind the scenes Kanye stories of just like wow,
he had this thing with the yeezis or this fashion
thing and I couldn't believe it. Or he showed me
this and I was wowed. Any any behind the scenes
Kanye stories in that realm.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Not really, I mean I remember one time he was
talking about jeans, like he got like like not wearing denim.
This is I don't remember what year this was, but
he made like a really good point about like denim
being restricting and like and That's what I'm talking about,
is like fashion is form and function, right, So it's
like the form the shapes the arttistic standpoint of it,
what it looks like, and then the function of like
how it's used and how it creates comfort or creates
(14:58):
or it can be used as utility. And I feel
like he was talking about from a from a function standpoint,
like the denim was just too restricted and it was
just having a long conversation about it. That made a
lot of sense, and I agree, Like, I don't really
be trying to wear denim unless it's like very loose.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know what I mean. But like when it's no
skinny jeans.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
But it's funny because that's made everybody want to wear
Skenny jeans, you know what I mean. So it was like,
but it's like the point was made.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I felt.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I felt him when he said.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Wow, that's so interesting. Wow. Okay, So personally, I think
it's so interesting with Kanye specifically, he's obviously the music
we all know, that's why people fell in love with him.
But then the fashion, the sneakers, like and these two
things both were massive. You had that you know, multi
hyphen it kind of artistic side to him. You recorded
as saying he's the greatest artist of all time. He's
still like now, like, yeah, he's still the greatest.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
It's not it's not that my opinion changed over time.
But when I said that, I might have just been ecstatic. Right,
He's He's probably my biggest influence in music.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Okay, you're Mount Rushmore, your rapper hip hop Mount Rushmore,
who's on it?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
My rap Mount Rushmore?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I don't know. I don't like doing Mount Rushmore's cause who.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Are a few just people? You don't have to say four then,
just like who are a few people that come to
your mind?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Like all these my favorites, who I want to shine
light on just for is Stevie Wonder. I know he's
I just want to say he is like our greatest
living artist, right and he's still alive and he's like, yeah, no,
I was just saying shout out to Stevie Wonder, like
he's he's also my biggest influence and.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
He's still creating and still.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Performing and his catalog is just unmatched.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And so I always just think about Stevie and the
fact that I'm alive at the same time as him.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
You know, we need to know about star Line, right,
Like what was so crazy to us is like the
day that we announced that you were going to be
the show. It is either the day or the day before,
like you announced that the album was coming, and like
as a chance the rapper fan myself, it's like we've
been waiting for this, like big day. Of course, loved
it great, you know, do you remember is my favorite off?
But either way, it's like we've been waiting for star
(17:14):
or an album. Tell us about Starline. I'll let you
just give you the mic on that.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Yeah, Starlin is like I was just talking to my
dad about it, Like, I feel like it's my most
intentional and well written project, and I feel like there's
a lot of like.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Across all the songs.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I think there's a song on there, regardless of who
the person is, that I think will bring people to tears,
and not like in a way that it's so like
heart wrenching or anything, but like that weight that you
were talking about, Like there is a familiarity and a
newness to all of the music. It's got a lot
of like inspiration from a lot of different sounds that
(17:57):
were in my past projects. My favorite things about it
is the sampling on the album. I think like when
I made an ass A Rap, I was moving freely
still and I was a little bit more conscious of
what I wanted from the production side, and so I
was really going to producers and being like this is
what I want, this is.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
What I want, and.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I didn't have to clear stuff because it was early
in the streaming game.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, and when I made Color and Book and the big.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Day, you know, like I was getting taxed for every
thing I wanted to use, and so I was way
less eager to use samples, especially popular samples, right, And
so with this one, it's really going back to some
hip hop stuff where it's like that is a big
part of hip hop since the beginning started with record
scratching and like you know, taking from other songs and
(18:48):
flipping them. So I think that's gonna be one of
the things that people talk about the most in the project.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
And then.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, just it's it's about that time, Like I feel
like it's a it's a good time. It's probably the
perfect time for this, for this exact kind of music
to come out.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Tell us tell us about Tree as well. You needn't
know about.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Tree, yeah, because you just dropped that and obviously you
and Wayne obviously Smino wanted to. But you and Wayne,
you know, like Peanut Butter and Jelly, So tell us
a little bit about that.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, Wayne is one of my biggest influences, Like yeah, no,
Wayne is is the uh playing a supporting role in
a lot of like my my biggest moments in my
music career.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
The first time I want to Grammy was on a
song with ol Wayne. The first time that I had
a number one record was on a song with Lil Wayne.
The first time I got a Diamond record was.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
On a song with Lil Wayne. He's been there for.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
A lot of things in life, just like in my
in my musical career, and sometimes maybe I don't talk
about it enough, but like I just respect him as
a person and his legacy so much. It was one
day he was in town on tour and he said
he wanted to stop by the studio. He came through,
(20:09):
we smoked, listened to some music, and he heard Tree,
which had been around for about a year by then,
this is like two years ago now, and he, uh, yeah,
he jumped on the record, killed it, and just put
me in a in a position of confidence going into
the album because I always feel good when I'm working
with I love that.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah, I was, you know, obviously we were doing our research,
but obviously we know and you were just referring to
I'm the one. Yeah, you know that song you know
will go down in history.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, can you tell me or give me a guest
on how many plays do you think that song has
on YouTube alone?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I don't know millions millions for show eight.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
No, actually, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you if every
single person in the United States, three hundred and forty
million people played that song twenty three times times eight,
thats how many plays it. That's eight point one billion
on billion.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I did not know that. You say eight billion, eight
point one billion, that's to say that's like the population
of the Earth.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That's insane.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Did you?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Did you know that song was gonna be like the
one when it dropped?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Literally, I don't know. I think I trusted the process.
Shout out to Justin Bieber. Also you feel me.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Shout out to DJ Khalt, shout out to uh everybody
that Quavo at the Colintility.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
The director, Like, I feel like it was an all
star team of people that came.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Together to make that record what it was.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
And uh, I think it happened at a at a
perfect time for everybody.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
And so I didn't know that it was going to
be a diamond record.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I didn't know it was gonna be a you know,
like a song that gets requested so much of my
shows and like it's.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
A very like a lot of people like it in
other countries.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
That's the other thing that's like it translates well think
and so.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, I'll still I'll still be performing that song.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I love it, I love it. Okay, Well, we got to
know about one thing. We're talking about Starline, we're talking
about the music, talking about what you're up to now,
we can't wait to hear it. You've been doing these
listening sessions with fans. Can you tell us a little
bit about that.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, So, like I've.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Been really getting into the arts, the visual arts, working
with painters, working with sculptures, all different types of like
artists in making Starline to like kind of bring a
visual representation to aage song. And as I got better
with the with those visual arts, I started moving into
the audio visual arts, so like you know, like projection
and lighting mixed with audio mixed with music, right, And
(22:38):
so I started building these experiences to test it out
with my fans, where I would you know, create a
show based around the music where you experienced the album
in real time, but you haven't enhanced listening experience. So
we have like a sound system that we designed that
works with subs and like sign and disco head phones.
(23:02):
It's something you really got to be there to experience
and understand what it is. But like it's been super
like I've just been grateful for it because I got
to see the real people, like you know, like you're
just like you guys have these like there's people that
have probably been to like ten of your events, have
got so the those people that love you and love
(23:23):
you like that, Like they don't always get an experience
to like sit with you and understand like the.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Ethos of why you do what you do or like.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
You know, like really look at the mechanics behind a
given project. And so when they get to do that,
when I it's me and you know, it's like thirty people,
it's not like it's not like a thousand fans. It's
me and thirty people, sometimes up to fifty people, but
like small rooms enhanced experience literally like an acid trip,
(23:51):
and it's like you go through the songs, you feel
what like you literally feel it, You understand the lyrics,
and you get like a video, uh.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Exposition of what's going on.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's insane. Wow, that's once in a lifetime experience to
say the least.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Wow, I'm close to those fans forever now too.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
You know what I mean like, it's like those are
people that like, you know, I got to hear questions
directly from I've seen some people out in public since then,
because I've been said he's like New Orleans, LA, DC,
Miami like places that I be that I frequent that
I go to a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
So I just ran on somebody in LA.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
It was like, remember me, I was at the listening
party and I did recognize he's super tall dude, shout
out to folks. He was at, uh like that. I
ran into do He was like, we're reset. No, shout
out to bro.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Though, but yeah, it's cool radible. Okay, wow, Okay, So
we've talked. We've talked Starlin, We've talked to everything you
got going on. I can't wait to hear it. My
birth month is July, so I'm hoping that we're coming
close on it.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Oh yeah, we only got this very uh click click,
who knows, who knows.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
We're gonna show you a couple of shoes. We just
want you to rank it, like if it was a draft.
Let's pretend it's the NBA draft. You just pick with
the number one, pick two, three, four, five. We got
some classics. We got the bape s does we got,
we got the reebok uh Kanye's. We got the Nike ones,
the Adidas, we have all sorts of stuff. Just oh,
the easy slides that you mentioned. If you had to
pick the top five of these, just based off what
your taste is, what would you pick?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I have a prescription for glasses, but I don't wear them.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Okay, let's say, Mike, can you bring that thing a
little bit closer to them?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Thank you? Now I can tell their shoes.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Let's see with laces, actually not all of my blaces.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Hmm.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
You know what's funny. I didn't know Kanye did babes this. Yes,
I knew he did those.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
He did like some Louis Baton shoes at some.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Point, right, yes, that Louis right?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, I used to love those.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Okay, my topics, I love those. The number one pick
and the sneaker draft is, oh the number one of
what you see here? One. I'll probably go with the
wave Runners wave Runners. Oh, okay, the seven hundred V
three is? I love that shoe? Number one? This one
(26:11):
good shoe? I have them? Yeah, okay, that's number one.
What's number two?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Just based off of design?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Ye give me the slides of two easy slides. Okay,
let's just do three. Give us the third pick. We're
gonna make it hard.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
The three fifties.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Three fifties, Okay, Zebra's right there. Okay, good, that's a
good one. Two three. I mean I would say maybe
some of the Louis Vuitton stuff, but I think it's
a good thing.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
The Louis Vaittan's ship was the first time that I
was like, oh, I get it fashion as a thing.
I feel like I didn't have like the expertise or
money when I was in eighth grade to like go
support him.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I wanted to thanks.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
We are so grateful, like I said, to have you
at the show. Like I said, I think a beautiful thing.
God Sould is an independent business, right. We started it
without any investors, any backers, and we grew it that way.
You grew your career and business independently as well, and
you stayed strong to your values. You did it as
a family man, You did it as just an overall
positive person. I was saying this the other day. There's
not you know, as a stereotype an artist from Chicago
(27:27):
that isn't rapping about the you know, the things that
a lot of artists from Chicago are known about rapping about.
To have gotten as famous as you have and to
have been successful you have while keeping the values you have,
I think is an admirable thing. We're proud to have
you as a part of our brand and our event
and we just want to say thank you. But we
only speak for us too. The last question we have
for you to end the show is you have literally
millions of fans. One message for the fans at home
(27:50):
to end out.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
The show, oh man, keep going and there's always tomorrow.
Health is wealth, pray, get your get your sleep, get
your breast, and go stream Tree.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Go, stream Tree, star line the album coming out. Chance.
Thank you so much. Let's go, Let's go sneak ahoping,
Let's do Let's do it my guy like like comma
subscribe until the next one chance to rapper. We'll see
you
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