BONUS AUDIO: Memoirs of an Invisible Man With Video Villa Entertainment

Here is an episode of Video Villa Entertainment that I was on where we talked about John Carpenter's Memoirs of an Invisible Man! 
https://youtu.be/3K3K7pQBKTM?si=o99yZwxfGRXHiRpU

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everyone, Tony from Acmovies here with more bonus audio.
I was just going through Instagram and a real was
recommended to me from Corridor Crew, which is a channel
I'm aware of. I don't really follow them, but it
showed a clip of how they did the effects in
the John Carpenter film Memoirs of an Invisible Man. And

(00:23):
then I saw that this Corridor Crew episode is a
recent one and it's making the rounds, and I realized
I remembered I reviewed Memoirs of an Invisible Man with
Logan from video Villa, and thanks to him, I have
the audio file we did this last year, and I

(00:43):
figured I put it up on the feed here as
a little bit of a bonus. Please follow logan from
video Villa. We just did an episode recently called Innocent
Blood by John Landis, and it is a very good
episode for a very good movie. But yeah, if you've
never listened to him before, I don't know how you
missed it. He's been on this channel a bunch. But

(01:05):
if you never listened to his show before, here is
an episode for you again. This is John Carpenter's Memoirs
of an Invisible Man.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
All Right, everybody, you're listening to Video Villa Podcasts episode
thirty three, Memoirs of Visible Man, directed by John Carpenter.
Today I am guessed with Tony from Hack the Movies.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Ye, I'm Tony from Back the Movies and today talking
about Memoirs of an Invisible Band on Oh yeah this show.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
So, so, do you want to go on end if
you liked the movie or do you want to wait
to the end you talk about if you liked it
or not. I don't know how you feel about you.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Know what you asked me to do this movie. I
had not seen it in many, many, many years. We
talked about it briefly on my show The Best John Carpenter.
This was I had a lot of fun revisiting this.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Oh cool, cool.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I understand why it didn't do well and it's not great,
but I had a very enjoyable experience, maybe because I
took eight hours in between the first and second before
I came back to it. But no, I'm really glad
you recommended this to me because I'm like, this is
a fun one to look back on, and also I

(02:45):
could see where it went wrong here and there.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah. So when I so, I got the shout factory
DVD here, I mean blue ray or whatever. And I
was looking at the one thing that I realized really
where I think some of it and we might well
get to it. I guess when you want to, when
you think what went wrong? But I was watching the
TV spots. Yeah, did you see any of the TV
spots because they shot two different versions. They had a
happy unlifting and a more drama filled TV spot. Well, yeah,

(03:10):
so different tones.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Basically, are you gonna go into the backstory of how
this got made or.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I mean I'm going in something if there's anything that you.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Know that I don't know, because that was like a thing.
So Chevy Chase signed on to it, but like he
wanted it to not be super jokey.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, he wanted to do a serious role.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, and uh you sure you know right? Ivan Rerightman
was attached, Yeah, and he like basically got him booted
from it. So yeah, it is funny how like, throughout
the whole production of this film, it was just a
struggle over how much comedy and how much drama. So
it doesn't surprise me that the TV spots went in
two different directions.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, because there's like ten of them. I think there's
like five different each and it's funny because his first
starts off doing the drama ones. I was like, and
you know, visible man, like, you know, I don't know
if it's the same voice actor. Iund know if you know,
but like there's the one that does the deep voice
like this, and then there's like Rob Schneider's a state
on me, so like it's I don't know if it's
the same guy. This changes his tone. But that's the

(04:05):
two tones from the savy spots. I'm like, Okay, well,
maybe people are really confused on what movie they're actually watching.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I mean, at least they did two different spots. It's
not like when you watch like the trailer for The
Room where it's presented as a drama. At the very end,
they're like, they say, it's a laugh ryot. I'm like,
all the footage made it look like a drama. Where
is this coming from? Because clearly, and I'd gotten a
cult following, so they had at that second, like, well,
you got to recut the whole trailer. You can't just
add by the way, it's a comedy at the end.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I didn't. The thing is I didn't know about that
movie too. I went to watch timid Eric and they
just replaced their episodes with clips from the room, And
I was like, what is I'm supposed to watch Tim
and Eric? Why is this showing this movie called the.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Uh? But yeah, I got like that that the marketing
they're doing. I'm like, well, someone happens to catch this trailer,
maybe they'll be in the move for a comedy. Yeah.
But yeah, this is like a weird time. This is
nineteen ninety two. It was like after Chevy Chase was
in Dan Aykroyd's shit show Nothing but Trouble.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I it's still a fun watch. It is.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's a very interesting watch. It's not a good movie.
I watched it a lot growing up and I can
still watch it. Yeah, but now I watch it and
I'm entertained, going, oh god, they wasted so much money
on this. Yeah, oh god, they really thought it would
be good.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
And that really made me look into data where you're like, man,
I think you're messed up in ahead a little bit here.
It's that you come up is pretty dimens.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Other people make your stuff work. It's kind of like
George Lucas, like other people made you kind of work.
You left to your own devices are not that good. Yeah,
So I can see after that him being like, I
gotta like I want to distance myself from comedy for
a little bit. So I understand and wanted to do this.
But at the same time, it's Chevy Chase's and there

(05:46):
is comedy in this movie that kind of works.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Well.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Is like if you watch the film and it also
like there are other John Carpter films and stuff like
that that have a comedy, comet comedic tone during like
in you know, big scenes of drama and so forth. Like, yeah,
you can throw that kind of stuff and still have
a thriller, you know what I mean, you can still
marry you too. Yeah. Like, so the fact that like
everyone just hated this and nitpicked it to death, and

(06:10):
I just I really don't get it because I really
like it.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Yeah, I mean, I there are issues with it, but
I mean the fact that it was like so hated
unless it was people going Chevy Chase is funny. I'm
gonna used to happen to like Jim Carrey. For a while,
people were like Jim Carrey ace mature. Then they would
see like The Truman Show or Dorl Slidge I'm like,
why is he not being funny?

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, yeah, So I think it might be like at
the time, people weren't ready for this. Yeah, not that
it's great. It's not like I hated in Jen Really,
there's great things in it. But I think like if
you were to show it to people now, they would
have more of an appreciation for it, not with if
they don't have the expectation of Chevy Chase is the
biggest name in comedy, I gotta see him be funny.

(06:52):
If they just going blind, they're like, oh wow, that's
that was fine.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
And it's also weird though, because, like I remember, after
the whole fiasco with Big Trouble a Little China, the
fact that John Carpenter would come to a major studio
make another feel yes, And I don't know if it's
just at the point where he's like to.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Go to the studio. I think he would recommended and
he said he's like, I figured why not, hadn't made
a movie in a while. And I think after this
he did a couple more studio things. He did like
the remake of Children of the Damn a couple other stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
But yeah, so they wanted Ivan Wrightman yeah, Ivan Rightman
clashed with the direction of the film. I think at
one point they went at Richard Donner because he had
so much experience with effects. I think his name was
on there. I might be messing that up, Sorry, I
might be mixing up a different movie that Richard Donner's
name was attached to, and I might be confusing it.

(07:41):
I feel like he might have been on there, but
uh yeah, eventually he went to John Carpenter and Chevy
Chase thought he'd be a good fit for it. Yeah,
it kind of has some of it has like a
Carpenter feel, like the cinematography up ye, But yeah, it
is like a unique movie for him to do, and
I think the studio was like a little nervous, like, well,
he's the horror guy. I mean, no, one's so all
big trouble when it came out.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
But it was a comedy and also like that was
another thing that they brought he brought up was like
he didn't even try to get his name attached to
it in the in the actual wording, because yeah, lots
of brothers would not be okay with it.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
At this point, I mean directed by because at that
point a lot of his movies were like John Carpenter
something something, John.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Carpenter, John Carpenter's and.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Okay, so he did it again. He eventually did it again,
which that this movie connects into that movie in a
certain way.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
But yeah, I mean it's it's it sucks because like
they forty million dollars of the movie's budget and they
only made fourteen million something back.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I mean that's if anything, this was a good effects
demo for Industrial Light Imagine, who were on fire in
the nineties, and I regret not to it. So I
have in like two thousand, someone like my mom or
like someone bought me this big isle m book and
it was like the History of Island. It's on the
set in the cabinet. I should have whip whipped it

(08:59):
out and like looked and seeing the film was an
invisible man, like a visible man section.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, well, well the Visible Man. So coming off of
T two and the Abyss, they use the same technology,
but this is when they really honed in on that technology.
Yeah yeah, I mean the kind of stuff that they
pulled off and basically showing things you could do with
visual effects before anyone knew you could do that, you
know what I mean? And it's it's this movie. Even
though it's not that grade of a movie, it is

(09:25):
groundbreaking for special effects. Yes, yes, motion capture wasn't around.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I know. I was looking at it the other day.
I'm like, man, this is really good. I talk about
on my show like the whole like compositing in like
the seventies and eighties. This is around the time where
they were figuring it out. Because one of the examples
I always bring up is like I love the remake
of The Blob, but that has one of the things
where like the person in front of the blue screen
has a different color correction than the thing outside, and

(09:49):
like it. It was always a trade off. It's like, well,
you can either do it this way where you get
the thick black line, or we can blend a little
bit a bit and they turn invisible a little bit. Yeah,
this is around the time where they were figuring that
shit out. It was starting to get more seamless.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
So like the scene where they're in the rain, they
just okay, so how they did that. They painted everything
Chanty James was completely black. Yeah, and then they threw
like stuff to make them look wet, and then what
they and then it was against a blue blue screen
background and what they wore take it back? Was it? No? Yeah,
it was a blue screen back. No, it's a black background.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
I think, I think so.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
And they just read, which is an old technique.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
But like as technology gets better, because that's what stuff like,
they did stuff like that, but the original invisible.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Man.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, but it's like, but now we can like fine
tune it a little bit more, like make it blend
a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, like even though with the smoking scene where the
snow comes up and you see his face through the smoke,
that's what the smoke coming out of the cereal. Yeah,
see the visuals through the smell. I mean it's it's
It is crazy the kind of things that they were
able to pull off in nineteen ninety two. And then
I mean, you know they went off to do dressa Park,
which was another Yes, I mean that's.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, uh yeah. The the effects were crazy in this.
One of my favorite is the building.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Oh the building is that because that's a set.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, it's a set, Like parts of the building are invisible,
but they just built like this jaggedy building. I'm like, man,
that is insane. How cool that is?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
So I was watching the behind the scenes and you
can tell it's clearly in like the early stages of
production and they're shooting that film that scene. And the
only reason why I say, you can tell because uh,
chevy Chase and John Capper being very nice with each
other and they're very talking, very highly each other. You
can tell they're just starting to film it. It was

(11:29):
they basically walked through the scene with the head on
the hat, floating hat whatever. Uh, And you can I mean,
but if you look more into it, you can tell
like that was just that was the only probably positive
part of the film and then it just goes downhill.
Which also here's the thing with John Carpenter. IV noticed
like he I'm not like he talks. He talks a

(11:49):
lot of shit. Yeah, I mean, and it says like
at some point it's like is it all true or
do you just like to talk a little shit?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Did you talk about chevy Chase?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh? Well that was the thing that so he was
basically said, like a lot of people say chevy Chase
is crazy, and he was like, no, he's not crazy,
He's just an asshole.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, I've heard that before. Ironically, we had forever, you know,
we had Fred Ollen Ray on the show, the director,
and he's worked with Chevy Chase a bunch and he
had he was fine with him. He's like, I get
along with him.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, that's funny. It's like it is funny, like when
you hear someone who has like a big reputation of
being an asshole, then you find like one or two
people are like, guy's cool.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Well then' and then so I bring that up again
because then there's another conversation because he's been publicly talked about
him and Rob Zombie and how what's called Rob Zombie
said he was very cold when he made Halloween. He
didn't want to give him any input. And then he
goes on and he says like, oh, that's he's full
of shit. That was nothing but nice to that guy
at He.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Probably just didn't care. Yeah, why does any care about
my vision?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
It's like he.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Doesn't give a ship.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
He just wants the money. Yeah, John Carpenter stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Care about Halloween before Halloween too was in production, Like
he didn't give a shit.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Uh, Because then another then one other conversation was because
the him apparently and David David Coopberg never really saw it.
Ice and he always felt like David Cooberg was better
than him, always want to put them together. Yeah I
don't because I guess the movies were graphic and they
just want to. I don't know. But that was another thing.
I was like, is this like because I like to
watch interviews with him talking to people and I was

(13:10):
sitting there was like, man, is it just the is
the fact that he's just a grolpey old man now
he needs to talk a lot of shit or I mean,
you know, girl, he's not the only person who says
Chevy Chase's ass.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Chevys reputation to be in asshole.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
But apparently Daryl Hannah was the same way. He said,
I didn't she just was just nothing but like, uh,
basically complaining through the entire shooting of the film. And
they basically said like she acted like a spool child
that knew it was going to get what he wanted.
Because you can't fire the two leads of the film,

(13:41):
Yeah they have to. They you need them, and they
kind of like, I mean you can.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
It causes a lot of problems legal stuff. I mean,
you technically can't, but it's cheaper to not and just
put up with their bullshit and try to make it work.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, but I mean to be honest, like the final product,
I think Chevy Chase does a great job.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
He's good. He's good, and I like the technique that
they do throughout it. Should we talk about the story, sorry.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
If you mean, we'll talk a little bit more and
then we'll you can read the match of the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
I like how one thing that helped with the invisible stuff.
Uh like sometimes we'll be in his POV so we actually.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
See him, yeah, and I don't mind that.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, which it cuts down on the budget of having
to do everything invisible, It's like, and it does a
good job of like easing you into it. It's like, Okay,
we see him on camera, but he says he's invisible,
and then they do the mirror thing. The mirror hat
doesn't match up perfectly. Yeah, but it's like okay, okay,
so now we know when we see him he is invisible.
Like we know that now, and then the when they

(14:42):
want to do the effects stuff, and I think that
that works pretty well, Like.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
And then you still get the physical humor that he does. Yes,
because with the jacket scene like that, it's very funny.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
It's funny when it cuts back and forth between him Dragon,
It's funny. It's funny.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, And so like I mean, I don't feel if
he did it any other ways, and then why even
have Chevy Chase at all, you know what I mean,
Like that.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Probably would have been easier. I mean, it's it's hard
to shoot those because that's when you would have to
uh you, I mean you still have to do play
shots and stuff, but like Backman was a little bit
more complicated, but you had to have like the camera
movements would be recorded into a computer, then have to
shoot everything twice for a plate shot so like it
would connect and it takes forever.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Well, they they did a so the scene where it's
just his face, uh, they did this digital scan of
his head and had him do like thinking, it was
like three hundred different facial expressions and they were just
able to generate that face. So that's not even him
actually moving his face or that's just them uh like
taking the old tad scan of his face and like
kind of like what you know, Eve the South Park
does and whatever, you know, like video games now, but

(15:45):
this was before that kind of shit happened.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
So Bull's go, oh you Son of a Bitch. Hold on, ah,
hold on, I might do it again.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Okay, sorry fine. Uh And one thing that I did
see that people's gripes were were like the the whole
how the movie chose to incorporate the visibility and like
they were just like like the logically thinking about it,
and how like they didn't like the fact that they
went more in depth with the visibility factor of the movie,

(16:21):
like nods explore that.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
I mean, most Invisible Man movies are like what what
like you would go insane?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, yeah, people think and he even said I thought
it would be fun, but it's really not. It's uh yeah,
hollow man does it. I was like, can we talk
about how like at this time in the early nineties
they were remaking all like the old Monsters.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Oh yeah, you talk about what you want to do next.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I don't know what that is, but Paul's real quick.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
So you had Tracula, which came out the same year. Yeah,
then you have Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. You had Wolf which
was the updated wolf Man. You had this one Everyone
Forgets Mary Riley, which was a Jack Goal and Hyde
remade Oh cool, Mary Riley, and this one they kind
of like fall down the list of like memorable ones.
But that was a weird time, like, oh yeah, they
were like remaking all the Universal Monster, but since they

(17:10):
were public domain, they didn't have to say they're the
Universal Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
It was just funny how like they were doing that
and like this was armed well then remake in the nineties,
what did they want to do it?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
It was going to be uh, John Carver was gonna
do a Creature of Blacklagluen with Rick Baker.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh yeah, that's like the one that they didn't do.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, And well that's because it's the they dropped. I mean,
Rick Baker actually already drafted the suit and they kept
try to keep it to original and made it more
movable and stuff like that. But it's because the success
with uh, well this wasn't successful at all. Yeah, he
just just left it. And now there's the stills came
up I think this year or I don't know if

(17:46):
it was Rick Baker who released the photos. Same thing
with the night Sky photos were released his his his,
his company or whatever. But it's crazy to see like
we could have got like a more like modern day
telling of Creature Black. Yeah, and we didn't.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, that one's hard because that one's not public doing.
I think that is universe. I think that's why they
sometimes call him gil Man and other things. I think
I could be wrong, but yeah, that would have been cool.
But yeah, I think like Mary Shelley's Frankenstein didn't do
that well, so they they eventually saw it like Tracula
was the big one was good. I don't.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I don't care about Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I've watched my channel. I've become obsessed with that movie,
but it's not great. But a video game, I've become
obsessed with that. May That's another one, much like Nothing
but Trouble, where I watch I'm like, wow, they really thought.
No one thought to stop this before it went too far.
They just let it keep going and then they released it.
No one went, oh no, we're on the wrong track here.

(18:45):
We gotta fix that.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, I think with movies that are going like crazy weird,
like Nothing but Trouble, I think those movies do well
when you don't have big names attached, and I feel
like maybe people look at them different a different light
because it's not Dan Aykroyd, it's not John Candy it's
not to be Chase, I mean more, which was like
nothing but trouble was that ninety three?

Speaker 1 (19:03):
That was like ninety or ninety one.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Okay, so that's before the ghost Okay, yes, because I
get it, because I but I think when Ghosts happened,
she was the highest paid actress all the time, and
then the next year was Whippy Goldberg because the Ghost.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yes, but that was definitely after Ghostbusters too, which critically
wasn't received well, but I still made money. So like
dan Ackroyd, They're like, yay, dan Aroid, do whatever you want,
and they went, oh god, never again, never again.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Well, spies like Gus wasn't really that great either. One. Yeah,
that one's not really that great either. But that once again,
that's if I to my knowledge, that is dan Rackroid
wrote that like at least half of the script I
can't remember. Well, you can quote me, or I'll look
it up and I'll put it here.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
If I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Anytime I'm wrong, I just put it in there. I
just put it here.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I was like, I was wrong. It was this.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
But yeah, if you want, do you want to read
the back of the VH Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Okay, your VHS tape. Yes, I bought a VHS tap
because I just assumed not many people own this. And
it turns out he already owed it. Uh, just a
quick nap and weary stock analyst Nick Holloway is sure
he'll emerge good as new. Instead he wakes up. God
is kind ah ha vanished O good poof. I don't

(20:20):
think we need sound effects thin air. Those are all
period period. A nuclear accident, a nuclear nuke, clearke, I'm
saying it right. A nuclear accident has transformed Nick into
the invisible man. The laughs and visual effects comedy trying

(20:41):
to sell it as a comedy. The laughs and visual
effects are out of sight. When check each check you check,
you ch sorry. I was like out of sight. The
invisible effects are out, the visual effects are out of sight.
That's good, listener.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
If you're coming here to hear words, say the correct way.
You're out on the wrong channel. That's all I can say.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Oh, you should have Crystal on the guys, that'd be
a fun time. Or mid Sally you have she had
both of them. Bought Memoirs of an Invisible Man. Oh
chevy Chase headlines Memoirs of an Invisible Man, as Nick
Chevy finds advantages to being invisible. It makes it easier
to spy on agents, particularly sam Neil and Is as

(21:21):
his chief adversary, who've put him in his predicament. No,
sam Neil didn't put him in the predicament. No, that's wrong.
That's like, that's objectively wrong. Chevy Chase kind of accidentally
does like a chain reaction that causes his predicament. But
sam Neil was there to clean up the mess anyway

(21:42):
he can. Romance a lovely documentary filmmaker. Did I miss
that detail?

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, dear Haa, she works for the right.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I forgot that she was a documentary filmmaker. I think
I just missed that detail. Like, wait, what in a
way she's never seen before? That's actually in quotations.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
And if he decides, and if he decides to become
a bank robber, he'll be the world's best. But first
things first, Nick wants his molecules back.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
That's the tagle out of the movie. It's in every
single trait.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Then won him for his wit, the CIA wants him
for his body. All Nick wants is his molecules back.
I mean he has the molecules. There's just invisible. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
That's the other thing is they don't really go into
like a super detail like I try to understand it,
Like I've literally watched the scenes where they talk about
what was going on for like three times, like, yeah,
it's not very clear.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
John Carpenter Halloween and Starman Uh directs, and the dream
weavers at Industrial Light and Magic conjure up eye opening
effects as Nick embarks on his manic quest seeing is
believing period and enjoying no exclamation point. I feel like

(22:58):
this should have been an exclamation point. Wow, that was
a weird summary.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
That is a very long summary.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
It's for ships and giggles. Hold on, well, this one's condensed.
Now it's the same thing, but it's just condensed.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Thanks Tony for reading the You do actually a pretty
good job. I'm not gonna laugh.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I do my best. I actually fucked up so many times.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, no, no, no, you don't want to hear me read
it like anyone who ever comes to the show.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I will not read it at all. But yeah, so
I guess we can go and start and get into
it too. Yeah yeah, yeah, So basically is it there.
The entire movie pretty much takes place in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Right, except for I think he drives away to the
facility where happens, but most of it is like San francs.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Okay, that's what I thought, because that for San Diego,
San Francisco he goes, he goes, they're on the train
to San Diego right to go to Mexico.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
I think, so something like that.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, So movie opens up in San Diego. We get
like kind of like like this scene shots of like
the the city and people wearing thermal stuff. It goes
into uh, basically I guess radio shot kind of like
store or whatever. And this is when we get our
first glimpse of Nick basically talking to a video recording

(24:20):
of himself.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
He's recording his memoirs, which is weird.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's funny because like once we get to the film
at the once we get to the point where the
film actually catches up where the film starts, it's like,
it's weird because he's talking to us. I'm like, did
you shoot the entire film? Like you're talking to us?
Is that your narrative? Is that what you're being what's
being recorded right now? Because it's like, why does Sam
Neil he knows you're invisible.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
If that was the fact is like they're gonna like
he's gonna extend it out somebody because.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
He makes a threat like that, yeah, during the movie,
and I guess that that's his proof.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
But speaking of proof, that's where we get the proof.
He's like, here, let me show you. He's like lighting
the cigun that he choose the gum and blows out.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah, that was really good.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
I won't I don't. I really want to know how
they did that. Yeah, like if I like, I watched
all the special features and that's not really the stuff
that they hone in on. Yeah, we don't get I
didn't get see anything with the smoke. It was just
mainly the scenes where he gets painted completely blue or
painted completely black. Yeah, that's the only stuff that they
really hold.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I'm guessing the gum was was because this is the
beginning of CGI. That was simple enough, like I mean
back then it probably took forever. Oh, but I mean
that it was probably simple enough of a thing to animate,
like kind of like the water. And I don't mean
like simple like easy, just like it's not as textures.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, I guess it technically couldn't even been stop motion.
I guess it might.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
I thought the mashing and then maybe there were still
movies doing stop motion at the time, so yeah, that
could be possible. Yeah that might have been stop motion. Yeah,
I think about it.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
But but yeah, so we get to cold like him
introducing himself into the film, and you kind of get
this over uh this narrative view and I like that. Yeah,
it doesn't bother me at all. I mean, it doesn't
feel unnecessary, and it kind of I like because it
kind of does set the tone of how Chevy Chase
wants the film to pursue, because he's not being really jokey, yeah,
until we actually see him interact with people and he

(26:07):
is a little joking. Yeah. But uh so then we
move forward a little bit and we get to Nick's
work with what does he do for a living? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
It stocks? That was like a stock trader.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yeah, okay. That was the thing is I couldn't understand.
I knew he was talking about playing the stock market
later in the movie, but I was like, is that
what you do? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
I think, yeah, it's a stock Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
So we see him at his work and it's pretty
funny because he has a couple of witty one liners
because it's a Chevy Chase movie. Yeah, Like I like
the one line where the ladies like, you're the best bullshitter,
the biggest bullshitter I ever met, or something like that. Well, ever,
I've ever worked the best bullshitter I've ever worked for,
which is like perfect Chevy Chase. Yes, you know what
I mean. But yeah, so we basically get to see,

(26:49):
you know, a little bit of his personal life so far.
You know, he's made the jokes where obviously he has
no family and stuff, like he's kind of setting us up.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Yeah, but he's just like they they reference it later,
like he's invisible to we already.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, exactly, he was invisible before he knew he was
invisible and stuff like that. Yeah, which is very clever,
very very clever.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
If anyone would turn invisible, it's this guy. And that's
pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah yeah, yeah no. Uh. And then so he ends
up leaving his work and he ends up going to
the club, which we basically meet his friend George.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yes, Michael McKean, I think from clue right, he's in
clue right.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, he's what else what is that? Wait, he's in
a lot of movies.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
He's in clue. I'm gonna feel like an idiot if
he's not in clue. Sorry about that, Michael McKean from Clue,
which we all know off the top of our heads,
and we know that we didn't have to fact check
that at all. I hope he edited that if you
want me to. Uh, yeah, he's George.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
He's George. Yeah yeah, And uh it's funny because like
when he gets introduced, you know, obviously, uh chev j
doesn't really like him. He's like, oh, act like we
don't see him. He's talking to the bartender and he
approaches him. But then it's funny because then later in
the movie he gets so upset there they're talking shit
about him, like you don't even like him, and now

(28:09):
you're upset that he's talking shit about you. But you
were just literally you you talked shit about him, Like
it's not I thought that was kind of like funny.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Is George has a friend later in the movie. Was
he in this scene his friend who shows up later
in the movie.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
No, no, no, no, it's I gotta.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Talk about that guy's voice when we get there. But
I forgot if he was introduced earlier.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Is it Roger, Yes, Roger Roger. Yeah, we'll talk about when. Yeah,
because I rewatch it because I thought, shit, what was
his name? Because if you look for a second, oh
for a second that the table, it looks like and
you only get a clip and I don't know if
it sits him, and maybe there were scenes cut out,
but it looks like Danny Houston sitting at the table
for a second. Okay, really, I swear to God. When

(28:50):
I saw it, I was like, that looks like him.
But then it cuts back and you ever see that
person's view, So I don't know if maybe I don't know,
but literally from a from when they walk up to
the table, you see his side profile, and I was like,
that's gotta be Danny Houston.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I didn't catch it.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
I didn't make that wrong, but it could be.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
I mean, there's plenty of big actors who just get
cut out stuff or like that. That was probably before
Danny Houston was big, right.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean well, you like Harrison
Ford was cut out of ET.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, I mean, well that was after Harrison Ford's But
there's stuff like John Leguizamo was a henchman in Diehard too.
I think his voice is a dr and stuff like that,
right oheah, it's that guy.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
But anyway, so.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, so basically he runs into George and it's funny
because uh, he's like what do you do? Like George
is like, what do you doing? Nick? And he said
and he goes, oh, you know, just uh right in
my like I just put my resonation. You know, I'm
looking ato, uh start a foster home for poor kids
mainly women in their late teens early thirties. We're gonna

(29:47):
start a family. So this movie's got funny shit. Yeah,
And the thing is that you can have a suspenseful
movie or like a thriller and still throw that funny stuff. Well.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I think he's because he actually does kind of feel
like his character from Nothing but Trouble. He was going
around like like like saying like bye gold. I think
it was also it's Doctort in that, but he's doing
like the more like assholeish smart Alec comedy. He's not.
He's His complaint with like other versions of the script
was that it was like Clark Griswold if he was
in Visibo. I don't really want to do the Clark

(30:18):
Griswold thing. I want to do this asshole thing, which
I think is funny.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, And the thing is like, like I said, we did
get some body comedy, but it's like obviously like that
is just like one or two scenes. That's it. Like
that we like, Okay, he's known for it, we got
out of the way, let's keep it.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
And it's appropriate for like the story they're trying to tell,
Like it makes sense. It makes sense. Yeah, but yeah,
I feel like this is the kind of like drier
humor he wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Yeah. But and I will say when he does his
intense fle scenes, it works. I I mean, like, yes,
it's kind of hard scene Thoughay, but like no, like
I can I can look at Chevy Chase and look
at it a serious man and not giggle, you know
what I mean. I'm not gonna like it doesn't I'm
not gonna look at him being serious. I mean Phillip
that But I don't know. But yeah, so he uh

(31:05):
what's called? Uh? Nick ends up eating having dinner with George. Uh.
And this is where we meet Alice, which is what
do you think about this? Did you like her in
the Maybe she was just kind of there.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
She's one of the issues that whole romance is like
one of the issues I have with the film. They
look up pretty fast, by the way, Yeah, the women's.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Exactly yeah, and then she's like, oh, I got, I got,
I've got to go. He's like, what are you talking about?
What were we just doing about it there to finish this.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, it's one of the weaker parts of the film.
And the character is kind of there for like the
ending they wanted to use that they ended up not using.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I mean there's there's fun like elements to her storyline
later on, but like, and I know he needs a
character to interact with, but the performance from her didn't
really do anything for me. And it's just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Now the ending that you were speaking of, is it
like was it what? What? What was that inny?

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Oh? They were gonna have an invisible baby.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
But then apparently people were like, well, there's a real
downer ending because that just makes you sad because like
and like John Carper even said, it's like, yeah, I
knew Warner Brothers probably wasn't gonna go for it. I
should have been smarter not even want to try that.
But he's like, like he didn't seem upset that they
wanted a happier ending. He seemed like he's like, that's
all me. I should have known they wouldn't have wanted that.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I wonder if that was in the if that was
the same inning that was in the book, because the
movie is based off the book.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I didn't read the book.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I didn't read I tried. I so that's I usually
try to read the book. But I was gonna cram
it as much, but I couldn't find any audio version
of it. Yeah, I am not gonna buy to read
it because call me up, I'll.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Read it too. We're really love Yeah, chapter three.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
But yeah, I agree with you a little bit. Like
I like Daryl Hannah, but I mean she's I mean
she's she's great and uh you know, splash and stuff
like that, but like just she loses. She doesn't have
any magic in this film.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah. You literally could have had anyone in this room. Yeah,
and I would have been fine.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
What was so Raiders?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Karen Allen? Yeah, Karen Allen probably would have.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
She was good in Starming.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, that would have been good.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I was watching Sandlot and she was in Sandline, like
and I, and she's older in that. I was like, man,
she's still pretty in the movies. Yeah, I feel like
anyone could have been in this.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah yeah, I guess if Nothing but Trouble wasn't a
ship show, you could have had to me more and yeah, yeah,
what was it?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Fucking what's it? What was there that first movie? Saying
almost fire?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Oh? Yeah, have you seen that? Lightly? I remember not
like that. It's awful. Yeah, it is awful. Joe Schumacher
was hit her miss. I do not like it was awful.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Like I went through the whole rat Pack era and
try to watch all that like in the eighties films
and stuff like that. I was like, well, people will
say it almost fire like some it's some some kind
of wonderful watch that one too. But I was like,
oh my god, like it. Why do people like this movie?
It's horrible? Yeah, these people are awful.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I don't think people didn't like when it came out
and I got a cold following and people did like it.
Now other people watching him like no, this actually does
soun but.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, so they hit it off and uh, basically, she
ends up having to go because there's someone she needed
to meet up for something or whatever and uh so
and instead of you know, being all hot and ready,
he just ends up drinking himself.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yes, way too much. He got like really, He's like,
I have the worst hangover over ever. I'm like, man,
that was like, why why did you.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Just met her?

Speaker 1 (34:28):
It's like he did hook up with her? It's not
like you got like so trust me, I've been to
the bar with things went wrong, But like you made
out with her. She seems like she said her I said,
she just had other shit to do it.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
And she gave you your number. I mean, like you
got a number.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Like, dude, you should that should have been a celebratory
right gotta I mean go home and take care of yourself.
But I mean like that wasn't like yeah, like the
world was ending. He's like, I got so drunk. I'm
like I don't know, man, that's a win in my book.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
But yeah, so like he ends up, uh he ends
up going to uh, oh, what's it? I wrote down?
Because magnoscopic laboratories. Yes, because apparently he's filling in for
a friend. Yeah, And like that's the thing is when
he comes to like what he did for a living,
Like why is he even there? It might have been
like look at the company to invest in the stock.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah, I think it was something like that, like.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
What what like what's this company all about? And then
see if we want to invest, because you.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Have to like look like what are they what's coming
up is going to affect the stock? I guess yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah. Which also like so he gets there, he's drunk
and he's just being he sleeps and uh, he gets
up and talks to the guy actually like you know,
when they're the sixteenth century or something.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
He's talking about like like the Bible or something, cries and.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Stuff like that. Yeah. I think maybe they bring up
some about Galileo or Yeah. He goes down the hallway
and okay, first off, he walks around in this laboratory
with obviously serious ship going on, and there's like no
locked doors. They're they're freaking labor the one room it's
just completely open to where you know, anything could just

(36:01):
happen to whatever their testing system is. What do you
think do you have that under lock and key? Also,
if you're on groundbreaking information, you want to save that
from any you're in a fucking skiff. Nobly they have
self well they had cell phones back then, but you know,
you're like lock and key, no one in and out
without a key card like that, and he somehow makes
his way into some by hell, someone's got a fucking sauna.

(36:25):
A sauna in their own office. I heard the bathrooms,
but not a sauna seems.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Like a lot, like I don't know, man, Like I
guess in a house, but in your office. You really
need a sauna in your office, like away from your heume. Like, oh,
come on, dude. I mean, if you're rich and you
have the space for it in your home, fine, but like,
how often during the work day do you're like, I
need to get a seaman? I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Well that's another thing, because like you get into sauna,
you're soaking wet, and are you gonna put your three
piece suit back on a soaking like No, I don't know.
I thought it was silly, but I don't think it's silly.
How Okay. So, in the continuing the storyline, the the
scientist knocks over his coffee into the computer system and
then all of a sudden, fucking catches fire.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
I know, it's ridiculous. I mean, it's it's the movie again.
It's not like supposed to be an outright comedy, but
it is having fun, like or.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Was he not even drinking coffee?

Speaker 1 (37:18):
He was? That was like a thing back then, like
water and electricity makes sparks and that makes science go bad.
That's all he needs to do back then. Now you
got to think about it a little bit more. Back then,
it's like it's sports of water.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
In the yeah. Uh. And then so it's just everything
goes fucking haywire and then like sparksclor is like fucking
goldbird about to walk on stage, all.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Sparks shooting everywhere.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
That was great, huh. But yeah, so uh it calls
you know, the building gets evacuated, everyone runs out. Uh.
And you know obviously Nick is passed out and the
sauna so somehow he doesn't hear the sounds, uh, because
the saunas aren't sound, you know what's called. It just
keeps the heat from he's hungover. He's passed out.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Look, I went on some benders and I had to
like pass out, and here's ship that I didn't hear.
I relate to him, although I would be throwing up
in this situation, but I relate to him being like
I there's explosion, I don't give a fuck. I need
to sleep.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
But yeah, so then now we get to the epic
scene that you brought up earlier, the really cool set
that they built.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, I like so like it goes haywire and only
parts of the building are invisible, and I'm like, so clever,
and I guess they use like a lot of black
backdrops and stuff, but yeah, it's so cool. You just
like see through sections of it and I'm like, this
is awesome.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, and it's weird because like then you start to
think of like you kind of like start to think
of like how does a visibility work, you know, and
like and like this one scene, like it's funny because
like like you know, he's banging on the doors. They
can't hear him. They can see through it, but it's
still something still there to preventing the sound from yeah,
uh escaping. But yeah, the lights can go through it.

(38:58):
Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yeah, whatever the this invisibility is. It's kind of hard
because like I guess, realistically be bending the light like
a predator, but they don't want to do that. Yeah, yeah,
straight up invisible because.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
That's what I was thinking, Like the light shouldn't just
go directly through it, there should be some sort of
resistance of some you know.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, so this is weird science magic, so maybe that
is how it work.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
But they did something clever though. His clothes gets get
become a visible as well.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah that was a good I like that since he
was wearing the clothes that got affected because he was
in one of the sections, I'm like, okay, yeah, and
they're they're invisible for the rest of the film.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Exactly, Yeah, exactly, So that like, that's that's very well
done on their behalf.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, because he asked that those are the only clothes
that he can wear that will be invisible, and so
there's a lot of like they put time in thought. No, yeah,
how he's going to do stuff, which is like some
of the fun parts of these Invisible Man movies.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
No yeah, and then also like and then don't when
we get back to like later and when he actually
is in his visible Man get up. I just don't, like,
I know, they want to show homage to like the
original movie with the goggles. Yeah, let's just have to
explain why he has like like it was someone just
like a like a history buff and have like pilot goggles.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Well, I was gonna say he is like a skier,
but those aren't skiing guys.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Yeah, and then later it looks like he's one of
the goggles, but it's actually those blackout sunglasses. You kind
of look like the gogles. Yeah that was fine, but
you know, I I'm like said, I'm just nitpicking, right, Yeah,
but but yeah, so this is really cool. So this
is when we get our first introduction, well a little
bit before this, we get introduction to Sam Dail. We
find out basically he's a guy you don't want to

(40:33):
funk with. Yeah, he's a guy paid to kill people. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
See, and I like, like he's being questioned by people's
like I don't know what you're talking about, and then
he like gets up, He's like, I gotta take care
of something else back.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, he's there to clean up. He's a cleaner basically.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, there to clean.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Up like the government and shady company's dirty work.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah. Yeah, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
It's a bunch of scenes with Steven Tobolowski.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah. Yeah, I think Samuel does a great job in this.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Oh, Samuel is great in this. This was like this
is like, yeah, this is well into his career. But
this is like before like drass Park really blew him
up again.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, because I mean really he had a lot of
like you know, uh, I mean the omen possession.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, I'm borrowing these from Logan for my episode, even
though I have this particular one on DVD, but I'm borrowing.
Uh Yeah. But I guess John Carpenter and him got
along because then a few years later he's in the
Mouth of Madness.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
So the reason why so apparently him and John hit
it off and he, you know, in the hall his
John Carpenter's ran about the movie that he was talking
to an interviewer or whatever. He went on basically just
saying like Samuel is the only person who kept him
sane on that set. Sam just seems like a nice guy,
and he's yeah, he said they connected so well when

(41:50):
he came to in Mouth of Madness. That's he's like,
he's like, well, I already know who I want. I
want Sam Neil, Yeah, which I love in the Mouth
of Madness.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Oh it's good. That's great.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I like I like that that. I like that, Like
that's like eight HP Lovecraft style, Like it's it's and
it's cool because like they's got great special effects, but
it's almost in the background, so we're not enough to
see the detail, and it keeps you wondering. No, it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
That movie is great. Yeah, but yeah, I'm glad they
were together. One of my favorite Samuel things is, uh,
when he was like first like on Twitter talking to people. Uh,
he's like, I think he posted a picture of him
outside or something, and then someone sent the picture of
his Jurassic Park action figure with the hand with the
glider and the uh, the pterodactyl trapper and like they're like, Samuel,

(42:36):
do you still use your pterodacty trapper? And he retweeted
and he went most days like that's really funny. It
seems like, give me a good guy to hang out.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Oh yeah, I mean surprisingly, you know, he doesn't really
go to like I mean, I don't even really know
if he goes conventions or anything like that. Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, he probably doesn't need to. Yeah, he probably doesn't
need to find.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
What was we me and Becker were looking up? But
was it twenty nineteen? Michael Keaton went to the Monster
Mania in twenty nineteen. Yeah, I was like that that
shocked me up, Like that's a that's like a freaking
New York Comic con kind of like San Diego. That's
like to go to New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
You know, I agree, I can see doing a convention.
Just pick up if you don't feel like acting like not,
let me go to a convention. Make some money there. Yeah,
but you don't. They don't seem like they they're not
the type that have to do it all the time.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but I would. I would see, like,
I mean, I could definitely see him like doing very well,
because I mean he has he's.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Think he'll put boxes in front of people like uh,
Susan Sarandon and Geena Davis did did you see that?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
No? Oh, at the one the convention had to like
get them to not they were like they put like
a stack of boxes between them and the other person.
This is like aftercase COVID. Well I don't know what
their reason was, but yeah, during COVID they were doing
the barrier and it's like, well COVID was the excuse then,
but like everyone was like shitting on Susanandon and Gena
Davis for like not want to be your friend, but

(43:50):
I wanted to like stand next to her like charging
them a bunch of money and then having them stand
far away. And I looked at that and I was like,
one day that'll beat me. I can't wait to get
so famous that people will give me money and I'll
be like, all right, stand over there takes a picture?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
You have you have you done? Like, uh, the actual
professional photos like those are like it's like meet to
cattle man. Yeah you just like you got twenty seconds.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah. Yeah, I was going, I don't even bother trying
to make conversation. I like, I understand. Yeah, Like it
was a Kevin conright in that I was like in
and out Alexa Bliss, I was in and out.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I couldn't. I did one experience and I was just like,
this is not how I want to meet people. I
can't do it. Like I just felt like, just like
I just felt like a number. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
I mean yeah, I mean it's cool to get the picture,
but like you have to know you guys watching, if
you're doing that, for the love of God, don't have
a conversation with them. Keep moving, yeah, don't yell at you.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, I mean they like like I when I did, and.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
They were all right to yell at you. There's a
million people you gotta keep moving. I'm sorry, say hi,
nice to meet you. Take the picture out.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, like I did John Burnhal and that's what he was.
He just like he was no buddy. And now that
that was literally it.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
It's almost worse when the celebrity does want to talk.
It's like, oh no, no, shut up, keep going and
get these people moving. Did you tell I've had to
manage lines in the past for conventions.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Just please well, then you then you get to some
fans You're like, I wasn't prepared to talk. I don't
know what to do.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
I don't know why conventions ahead of time don't just
go like, please bring one item to sign, because then
people will bring like a whole thing, and then they
have to be like, hey, guys, we're elimiting.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
It to one.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
It's just one item from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Oh my god, I'm freaking going to going to comic
book conventions. That's the worst. You have a guy sat
down with like a fifty stack of like individual comics
for like Fabian. Yeah they did, uh what did the
dial off for the dipole comic and then took over
after Chris Come went left. And then's just like just
you're behind it, and you gotta wipe the entire time

(45:48):
from just every single one. I will because you're paying
them to.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Like I if I I rarely get autographs or whatever
these days, but what I do, like, I'll bring like
one thing and if there is no lie, if I
have a second thing. But like I know, going in,
I'm like, I want just this one thing sign. If
they will sign the other thing, that's fine. You meet
me at a convention, I'll sign everything. I'll sign your
divorce papers, I'll sign like whatever you give me next thing.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
You know, I.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Adopted a kid. I'm like, how this happens.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Compared to Tony did not owe two hundred thousand dollars
in support?

Speaker 1 (46:23):
And I was like, that was convention? What happened to
this movie? Invisible?

Speaker 2 (46:31):
But yeah, okay, so yeah, So we get Samuel's character.
We find out that he is basically cleans up for
the CIA when shit goes awry and uh he now
shows up to the laboratory. Uh and uh basically how
does he pass out again? How does Nick Nicholas Nicholas?

Speaker 1 (46:51):
I think Nick, I think he just like faints because
he's just overwhelmed.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Okay, yeah, I can't remember because because they drag him out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
At some point he's out on a stretcher.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so they drag him out and uh,
you know, we get some dialogue between him and uh
was David David? Right, I think it was David hold
On David David. I know it's one of which say it's.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
It's agent according to the back of the box.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
But uh, well I know I know it's David or
Dave one of the two which talking. Yeah, but yeah,
So basically he just explains him like, hey, you don't
need to go anywhere. We needed to talk to you, Like, well,
you're talking about this guy just told me he was
going to fucking dissect me for the next two years
or something. He's like, why want I go to you? Yeah? Yeah,
uh so yeah, he ends up running away, uh which

(47:41):
is it's this scene with him, uh basically trying to
make his way back to his apartment. We see obviously
he's invisible, but he really doesn't get the concept that
he's invisible.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, he says he keeps forgetting and he's like with
the truck and he almost gets run over.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah, and uh so we get this funny little clip
of I'm basically finding this drunk guy on the street,
and he ends up basically knocking him out with his
briefcase and getting him to get in the cat.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I love cat. He's just like hunched up in the air.
It's so funny and like the cab driver should be
seeing this. That's physically impossible what happened here, But I
like that he brings him and he starts like moving
his mouth. He's like, well, you drive me through San Francisco.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
And it's funny. It's the uh. I don't know the
actor's name, but it's the uh, the guy from A
Big Trouble Little China.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
No, not the main guy, but yeah, you're talking about yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, which is funny because you you watched on Confortent films,
little people like that show up all throughout his films,
which I think is pretty cool. Yeah, but yeah, so
uh he ends up again going to uh uh San Francisco,
which obviously I don't know where they're at, but it's
clearly a very long cab ride.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yes, because he's like, you're gonna have to pay me
up front.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Which is funny, Like, I'm surprised someone would even do that. Yeah,
you know what I mean. Like you're talking about like
if it's like a like I was surprised I was
able to get an uber after our megabus broke down
hour and thirty minutes away from our house and he
did drive his hour and thirty ways to our house. Yeah,
broke down on New Jersey Turnpike.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
I mean that's a good you make some money there,
But I know there are people that are like, I'm
not driving that far. I'm trying to stay local.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, then you gotta go all the way back home?
What you're not gonna make money on? Yeah? But yeah,
So this is this park's pretty funny. And how he
ends up getting out. I like that where he's like
hold on to pull over for a.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Like all right to go? Or he goes down her mind,
I want to go back.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I want to he names another street or whatever. Uh.
But yeah, so he ends up big, you know, getting out.
He gets back to his apartment, and this is the funny,
Like this is when we get a little bit more
of the physical comedy because he's watching the news and
he's trying to eat because he's starving.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Uh, and he obviously can't see his fingers, so he
can't see to put stuff in his mouth. But like
in my head, I'm like, would it be that difficult?
Because if you can close your eyes and put something
in your mouth, like I feel like if not seen, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
I mean I would like screw you up, I think
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Do you ever cut your own hair?

Speaker 1 (50:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Oh, I've I cut my own hair. And sometimes when
I like look in the mirror of like okay, where's
the arm goes, it's opposity, Like my brain won't work
because of that.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I do not cut my own hair.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Uh. But yeah, so uh and this is when we
get some more of the really cool special effects. We
get him the throwing up scenes.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah yeah, which is really because like, yeah, they don't
really do this in a lot of other invisible movies.
But like if he eats, you will see. So it's
literally just anything that was on his body at that
point is the only thing invisible. All news stuff like
eating and whatnot you're going to see in his Stuffach.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
That's crazy. Yeah, I don't know, it's cool because, like
like you said, like you don't really think about it. Yeah,
And it's nice to like see this like visually, which
you know, I mean, like I said, they're trying to
pull up bells and whistles here because it's you know,
it's I l M. I mean, you know, they got it.
You gotta see some kind of awesome special effects, you
know what I mean. And then uh so obviously ends

(51:05):
up making him throw up because it's just disgusting. And
so then now it's fast forward a little bit longer.
Maybe I think it's like the next day, and he's
you know, he's getting basically took a shower and he's
brushing his teeth or something like that, and he's hearing
his voice machines and stuff. Obviously Alice has contacted him
back about their date on Friday, and all of a sudden,

(51:26):
he starts to see people I think outside and then
he was like, oh shit, no, no, it's sorry. Dave
causes answer machine and leaves a mess. He's like because
he knows who he is, because they kept a log
of everyone who walked.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Right right right, right, right right right, So they're on
to him.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so and I like this scene. So
they end up like so he ends up, he's got
to put his clothes back on. So we talked about
the jacket scene, which is very funny, but he's got
to leave and he doesn't want to leave naked, which
talk about he was in shape. Ye, this it was crazy,
like you know, you've never seen Chevy Chase like in
shape like that. He had a six pack and everything. Yeah,

(52:02):
like me rewatching him like holy crap, I look.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
That bad and like Caddy shocked and always Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I mean he was younger there to me, Like I
mean but Clark, I mean, Clark wasn't really in shape
either there, like he wasn't fat, but obviously you could
tell he hit the gym for this film.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah, you might put a little bit more effort into it, probably.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Because he knew he was gonna be like some scenes
like technically naked. Yeah, I mean, uh so, yeah, he
puts his clothes on and this is the scene where
they come in and he's like circling around him.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yeah, and it's and this is a moment where we
know he's invisible, but it's more fun to see him, Yeah,
because you're trying to imagine like what it would look
like invisible. It's pretty funny. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
No, And then like, uh and I thought it's pretty clever,
like so they're just gonna bust open door just spraying.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yeah, they have the spray. They start spraying the walls,
like really, not even realizing that he's already yeah, but
I like they're like stepping on his finger and he
can't like yell.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Well, it's really funny. Then he gets downstairs okay, and
then he's buzzing a door and the person outside sees
the doorknob because here go in and out, and the
old woman answers the door, which is the old lady
from wedding singer, uh, the meatball lady. Oh yeah yeah,
so he uh he she opens the door. She's like,
it's like, is it okay to come out? And she's like, yeah,

(53:15):
this is okay, and she opens the door and like
it's funny because he ends up busting through the door.
And then when they make it through, so she's like,
I must a fella or something like what do you mean?
You also you forced me fell backwards and you didn't
get hit with something, you didn't feel yourself. I thought
that was really fun I bought a feller or something. Yeah,

(53:37):
But then we get another cool scene where what do
you think about the uh the blanket scene that I
thought it was pretty funny, that that's pretty clever. Yeah,
I think about the thing about like the like this
the person who's literally like when but yeah, so uh
so he ends up basically escaping and then circling back

(53:59):
around and uh they end up catching up to him,
but obviously they still can't see him. And uh it's
funny because like, uh, I believe this is a scene
where Samuel's like, you know, basically says he's going to
kill him and then he uh then basically finds out
he's around and he's like, hey, I just want to talk.
Like you just told me you wanted to kill me,

(54:19):
said you want to kill me. Now you just want
to talk. I thought that was pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
That was awesome.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Is it around this point where he meets up with
that doctor or something.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
This, Yeah, yeah, that's the next that's after this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
I love the outfit that he has on the big overcoad.
He's where like like a sock over.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
And this is what that's the scene we get the
classic I want.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
So that scientist was there at the building or he
like was involved with the building, right.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
He was the he was the head scientist that was
doing over the research of the magnetism and Molly cools
because they were working with magnets. Okay, and somehow some
cool something about science science.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
But no, I like that scene where he's like talking
to him like you gotta fix me and what not.
But I love when he's running away and he starts
taking his clothes off and like just the shot of
the pants was awesome, the pants like falling down as
they're running.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Now, I do know in this scene where he's just
a floating head, they made it clear that he was
wearing a blue jump suit. Yeah, yeah, and that was
against a blue screen. Now, I don't know how they
did this one because I don't know if it's against
a blue screen and him wearing a blue underneath that,
because I don't really it's because it looks I don't
it looks like they're actually out in public. So I

(55:37):
don't know how they pull.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
This one off. This one might have been all CGI
or incomposited in but it could be he was running
and it was blue and then they like painted in
the back of the pants that would have been covered
up by the blue screen, which I know they do
a lot, like when they're like unraveling, like you obviously
don't have the bandage because the blues in the way,
so they animated to like fill in either way, it

(55:58):
was like a really cool shot. Oh the way it looks.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Oh yeah, and like this stuff, you know, it still
holds up even to this day, Like that effect still
looks good. I mean the only effect that looks a
little cheesy is I mean, like the head, the floating
head to our dates today's standards a little crappy. Yeah,
but I mean but for that, for then, I'm like,
that was like shocking. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
I would have a good time seeing this in theaters
being like, oh my god, how they do that? Uh?

Speaker 2 (56:23):
But so yeah, they we cut back and uh to
Sam Nail and his hinchman basically trying to come up
with the idea of how they're going to catch him.
And that's when he brings up the line where he's
like he you know, he had no family, he has
no loved ones, has no kids. Uh, he was invisible
before he was invisible and so forth. So yeah, he
makes it back to the club because that's a safe
place for him, and uh, we get the funny little

(56:45):
dream secrets of him sleeping on the pool table right right,
which was you know, like I said, probably one of
the reasons why he got in such a good shape.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Yeah, and this is when he takes the robe off
right and like his crotch is invisible because.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
You hear something like I think it's like a voice
over something of like like they've taken everything from me whatever.
I don't know that. That's funny that he wakes up. Uh.
And because he makes he makes it very clear throughout
the film where he's like I can't sleep. I was like,
I can't close my eyes. I can't like I can't

(57:18):
I can't see through my eyelids.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Yeah, technically you wouldn't be able to see it at all. Yeah,
you wouldn't. Like realistically, you would not be able to
see at all all because the light has nothing to
reflect off.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
But like you just be like ah exactly, like like
what is it? White is absence of light. That's why
I exist, you know. And then blacks all the colors,
that's that's our fourth grade.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
No is that the I think it's opposite. I think
white's all the colors. Black is the absence of everything.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Maybe you're right because.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
The black is a shade, not a color. Goughs love
to tell you that but I think White is like
all of God.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Yeah, well I'm just Alexics.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Let us let us know if we're wrong. I said
that with so much fucking confidence I might be.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Uh So yeah, So he's trying to figure out what's
going on, and he tries to get up like obviously
they are one step ahead of him. So he's like, okay,
well I'm going to try to figure out to fight
fire with fire. So he's like, okay, well I'll just
follow them and see what they're up to. I'm a
visible yeah, you know what I mean. So he ends
up making their way, making his way to uh David's office.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
And you know he's David Smart.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yeah yeah, the yawning parts. Yeah, and well here's the.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Fuck crack and he's like, I'm not he realized, like
I'm not alone.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Yeah, he's pulling long hours. Yeah, I'll do my eight hours.
I'm going home, y'all know about think it'll be dark
out when I get home? Uh but no. Yeah, so yeah,
he and then we got some cool little dialogue scenes here,
a little bit more intense scene. This is where I
think where he's really laying it on, like he's being
pretty serious.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yeah, because Samuel goes to reach for the god and
he's like, don't you touch it?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Yeah, because Samuels is like, I don't know exactly.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Where he is exactly.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
If there's one note I have, uh, I know, Chevy
Chase is on screen and they're looking at him, but
they shouldn't be looking directly at him. I would have
had it where like they're looking past him.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yeah. Well there's the one part where he's like he moves,
He's like listen here, listen here, Nick, and then chevy
Chase is over here. So that one thing that's kind
of that.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
But like him and Dara Hyna, there's scenes where they're
like they're talking to each other and they're like making
eye contact. It would have been cooler if they're just
like constantly like that.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Yeah. And also like when she kisses him, I know
she's touching his face, but she was still have a
hard time knowing where to put her lips because I mean,
even like even with your eyes open, you can still
fuck up a kiss. Yeah. But yeah, so this will
get the really cool intense scene. I like this. I
like this.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
That was a good scene.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Yeah, And I mean he's clearly I think it's obviously
a prosthetic on his head that's holding the gun, but
it looks well how Sam is like portraying, He's doing
a really good all on his body act.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
He's selling it.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Yeah, yeah, really really well. And uh so basically he
tries to recruit him. That was his whole Like, he's.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Like, if we use it, we can send you overseas.
But what if we had an invisible guy in the thirties,
we could have killed Hitler.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yeah, he's like, He's like, assassination is fine as long
as you've worked for the right on the right side
or whatever, like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
It stopped sixteen million deaths.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Yeah, so uh basically, uh he you know, he escapes,
uh doesn't Now, He's like, so he really doesn't know
where to go, and he comes up with the idea
he knows George has his beach house. Yes, so he
ends up making his way to George's beach house.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
He pretends to be like this assistant or something like, yeah,
we need this this this George your card. Yeah, charge
of the card.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
He's like, is I need a liquid dot? How how
translucent are those? Cop says I'm all gas, which is
pretty funny. And then you get the funny little part
with like uh uh uh the the livery driver who's
snooping around. Yeah, that would scare the ship out of
me just walking around elseo you hear someone talking to you?
Oh my god. Uh. So he's basically come to this

(01:01:05):
realization that he is going to try to live a
normal life. Uh and like almost kind of like not
like being like a hermit crap, but stay within the
mansion or beach house and live his own life. You
have the funny scene where him jogging wearing clothes, yeah,
talking to the fisher guy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
But yeah, because he could do his job like by phone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Yeah yeah, I mean because I mean the U sell
talk socks over the phone. Yeah like that. Yeah, I
mean I mean people are hell well, I don't know
if the market was online yet, but I mean we
had computers now ninety four, I thinks went online.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah no, it wasn't online, but you know there were
people calling and what Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Yeah. So I mean his idea was he's trying to
find a way where he can uh invest in a
company and have a new uh a new person, like
a new like persona like alias to invest all that money,
make a big loud song and just get the fuck
out of touch, you know what I mean? Uh, And

(01:02:00):
everything's working fine and he's enjoying his new like life.
And I don't know how much time has actually passed
between it. I don't know if it's like a week.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
I think it's only like like a few days to
be honest. Yeah, but yeah, he thinks this is gonna
be there forever and that that doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Georgians are showing up with uh when Roger Roger, what
is that the guy's real voice? Or is that was
that direction?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
It might be his real boy? He he talks like this
and I was like, he's not They kept taking me
out of him. I'm like, man, that's probably your real voice.
But I wouldn't have cast you as just casual friend.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Well even like even George's wife, like where they're at
the dinner the first dinner and she's like, so your job,
how's it going? And she's really annoying tones.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
I guess that was supposed to be the rich snobby
yeah whole boy. I couldn't stop listening to that guy.
I looked at his credits, like do I know that boy?
I didn't recognize any of his credits really just like, man,
that was a very specific boy was that was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
The man they got the mm your walls are girl?

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
I don't know. If I knew, the reference would have
been funnier if a joke.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
But yeah, I know that voice kept like killing me.
But yeah, he's there with Daryl Hannah. Yeah he likes
Daryl Hannah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Yeah. And obviously like it's kind of like it was.
It looks like they were set up. But then also
like it made like it seems like Daryl Hannah like
had no intentions or doing anything with him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Yeah, but I like as soon as they get there,
like what is this? What is all this stuff here?
And someone's been living in my house?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
There's a fire? Uh yeah uh and there's like uh
and then it's like, oh, it must be my brother.
He must have been so and so much have kicked
him out of the house. Again, does your brother drink this? No,
the only person who drinks that is Nick Halloway.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
We started making fun of him. Yeah, that was the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Is like theyre said that he's like he must be
on a bender or whatever. It's like, And like I said,
we get back to the part where like, you know,
they're all talking about him. He's like and then Roger's like,
how bout he just walked into the ocean, Like really, Roger,
that's what he fucking did. Like, like you said, if
he's been missing for a week, it's just been a week.
I mean, like what, okay, all right, buddy, And on's honestly,

(01:04:16):
and obviously Roger knows Nick too, I mean, but it's it,
it's kind of like this scene is kind of funny.
Word so they're just all talking shit about him, which
I'm sure that happens all the time, you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Know, yeah, yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
So then it moves forward a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
And right, yeah, sorry you talking about the Rogers. Ro
Rogers got the hots for Darryl Hannah and he gets
a little too aggressive. But this scene, like he makes
a move on her, he jumps on her and then
she like pushes him, but then like Chevy Chase picks
him up and like throws him across the room, and

(01:04:53):
like you think he's supposed to be like, oh did
she kick me? It's like, well, you would have felt
someone's hands on you exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
And then he's just like extra dremely scared her. After
that point, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Because he thinks she's like super er.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Well the one part of that first off, you get
Roger that his personality, and he's like he's like, okay,
I have a good night, and it comes back literally
ten seconds later. I actually have this bottle I was
gonna me once I wrote my book. He's like, oh,
I didn't know you're writing about Well I'm not, but
it's all in my head right now. It's like, oh
my god, dude, really, what the hell?

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
But yeah, so he like kind of resolves that, like
he's walking on the beach and he has to watch
George have sex with this wife for five seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Crab my pull pim arms down.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
The long time Jemmy Chase is like, huh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
The best part, the best part. He's like, oh, sorry,
give me like ten minutes. Just look at the mem in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Uh all And so okay, So there's like the next
day and obviously uh uh. Nick wants he wants to
talk to Alice. He wants to talk to somebody. Uh,
And he can kind of tell he read the room
based off a house like she was like she even goes,
I thought he was your friends. Why are y'all talking
to him, so you can tell you, Okay, I know,

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I maybe can trust her.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
I mean, and at this point, he's now living in
a different house, yeah, watching them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
He calls down there and he's like, Hey, come down
to this house. I want to I want to talk
to you. Don't tell anybody. Just show up. I'll have
the door unlock for you. And this is when we
get the classic you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Know, yeah this classic goggles Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Yeah, which looks pretty freaking It look good. I'm a
modern version of It's pretty cool. Yeah, I mean they
are like, you know, they like, yes, hollow Man really
went there for like turning into a full blown horror movie.
I didn't see him visible land did you see him?

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
You know what? I had it spoiled for him?

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Ah damn.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Like literally, I was at like a restaurant and it
was just on the team, Like I forgot it came
out like during COVID and I just kept forgetting to
watch it. And then I'm at a restaurant and I'm
like gabbing the whole movie spoiler it's a suit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Yeah, someone said that to me, Like I said, have
you seenody? He's like, yeah, it's a suit. The whole
time I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Like, yeah, yeah, and I was just looking at him
like I think I kept the idea I'm not gonna
watch it. I like that director though I know he's
doing Wolfman now it looks good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Yeah, I mean as far as like it's like as
far as like like the trailers, I mean, look, well,
well mate, And I mean the actress that was in
I'm not really big fond of her, but like I
was more. I was enticed to see it, and I
thought I liked the whole I think she did a
really job on like I'm not fucking crazy. Yeah, But
talking about spooling movies, I was watching the first time
I watched Resvoor Dogs, like twenty minutes movie. But I

(01:07:42):
walks down he's the stairs. He's like, oh, those maybe
where they kill each other everybody right, they kill all
each other, they kill everybody, right, they all kill each other.
Like I'm almost like I have seen it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
I don't know if that's the movie. Actually, I'm currently
in the middle of watching it. But well, I was
gonna say. I mean, I mean, obviously the Invisible Man
incarnation is the Invisible Mayor from season two of Mummy
Cop that was I don't know why that wasn't on
your lips. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry, I forgot about That's fine,
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Hey I did. I did portray Mummy Cop.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
You looked more like the Invisible Mayor than you did
Mummy Cup, which was the whole joke because everyone thought
Bummy Cop was the invisible man or dark man when
I went to convention. So we wrote that plot line
where the Invisible Mayor who was coked up, homosexual, promiscuous,
like a puppet of the mob. He was like a
plant by the Mamia. He ends up getting killed because

(01:08:32):
the main bad guy confuses him for Mummy Car. But
we had to see where we had, like the floating sunglasses.
We didn't really try hard. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Oh, I gotta revisit that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
That's fine. I haven't read visited in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I still like this. It makes no sense, but I
still like when you pull your head out from the car,
it's ship. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
I didn't write that one. There's some weird thing. There
were some weird things that season one that another writer
did and I left it in and like season two,
I'm like, yeah, I would have changed that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
Uh so, yeah, she ends up passing out and he
ends up bringing her to basically just tells her the
whole thing what happened, and uh. She's at this point,
she's been going for like two something hours. She's on
a run or whatever, and he ends up going back
to the beach house with her and she's in his
room and it's funny because there's this one part where

(01:09:34):
he's eating the dinner or whatever and she's talking. She's like, hey,
you were here last night. Why don't you because the
whole Rodger scenario. Sure, but yeah, what's called? Uh? And
so he's like, it's funny, she was like, you were
here last night because the whole Roger scenario. And he's like,
he goes, well, I mean I can't say. He goes

(01:09:54):
you were and he was, and then she's like, well,
how long did you stay? After he's like he's like,
I swear to god, I didn't see a thing. I
had my hands over my eyes, just like your hands are.
That's pretty funny. But yeah, So they basically George ends
up leaving with his wife from Roger Rogers thinks she's

(01:10:16):
a bat. She crazy because she can hear her talking
to somebody and there's nobody there. And it's funny because
when she leaves, she's like, all street goes by the way,
I've got a therapist that's really well, it helped out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Allergies.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
No, He's like, I got the number for a therapist,
and I think it would be really helpful. And she's
kind of like, okay. He's like because Roger's like, she
might be fucking skitzo, you know what I mean. That
was a little more peevy Herman than Roger whatever. But

(01:10:53):
how many Roger voice adversity it was hard. They're out there,
but yeah, it's so yeah. So they end up leaving
or whatever, and she's gonna stay with him and trying
to she's trying to want to work with him on
his plan, and he's he's setting up he listen here,
if you help me out, I'll be out here get

(01:11:13):
some I'll get some money, and I'll just leave you alone.
You never have to see me again, literally, And so
they end up wanting to basically go on a date
because she's like, I don't really think we need to
do that, you know what I mean, we don't we
don't have to cut tis because she's got feelings for him. Yeah,
So she's like, well, he no, I think it was,
it's too bad I never could take you on that

(01:11:35):
date we promised or whatever, and she's like, well, hold
on a second. Then she pulls out her makeup.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Yeah, the makeup scene. Yeah, I mean it's a cool effect.
But I'm just like, I don't know, I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Like we're uh that's the digital scan part, That's what.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
I feel like. I'm like, I know you, just like
I'm trying to think of like logistically, I'm like, it
wouldn't look that good. It would not look that good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
And the funny thing is too also, like his teeth,
the reason why his teeth are so white because they're
like no, it's white out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Oh his teeth right right right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
And the scene in the rain, they blackened his entire mouth.
I was like like like like it's I don't even
know what the hell they could have used.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
I don't know either.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Yeah, and then Daryl Hannah has to kiss him, and
you could tell when they hit cut on the behind
the scenes she was not happy on kissing him because
all that shits on her. Yeah. But yeah, yeah, this scene,
as far as all the ones like this one holds
up the least.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Yeah, although it is cool seeing him like not have eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Yeah, yeah, so those blue eyes. So anytime it was
like when he needed to do the blue stuff and
they did the blue face and stuff, he had to
put in a blue contact that had little tiny peep
holes in him, but his eyes had to be numbed
because they were so painful. Oh yeah, and same thing
with the black contacts. He had to do the same
thing with the black contact. Never do it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Oh yeah, I've had to have my eyes numbed. So
they do something, it hurts after it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Whereas off Yeah, well because that's another thing, is like
so Chevy tast kept on get pissed off because he
didn't he okay, he signed on for the movie not
understanding what he was going to have to go through
and which I'm sure at this time, like people probably
didn't really understand that type of special effects, like oh no,
you're run this makeup for six hours and shit like that.
And then I think maybe I think he said it

(01:13:17):
took him about four hours to do like the black scene,
everything get painted black to for it looks right and
then put the slick stuff on him. They take about
four hours. But yeah, he would ruin. John Carper said
he would ruin entire takes because they would have one
they would start the one take and he was just
like and he would just rub all his shit off.
He's like, I'm not doing this today. They would ruined
the entire day of shooting because that was the that

(01:13:38):
was the plan for the day for him to wear
that makeup and did that scene and then have to
reset the entire time. So that was one thing where
he was like John carp basically is like he's a
prima donna, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
And I get it that is hard, but like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
In my head is like you're an actor. Yeah, you
get pay to do it, you know what I mean.
And like once it's over, it's like if you focus
on how much it sucks, it's gonna make a lot
of long Yeah, do the scenes get over with?

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
I mean I know that maybe sounds easier just to
visually say right now and not have to literally go
through something like that. But I think of it like
it's like the same things like getting tattooed fucking sucks
and you're there for five six hours and you're in pain.
This is you know, a little bit more bearable and
you get a nice well sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Or at that point, just ask for like script changes
and stuff so you don't have to do that particular
do it in a way where you can get like
a stand in to do some of these scenes, but.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Which technically you could because no one sees the fucking face.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Yeah, honestly, yeah, it really.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Could be a It could be a stand in, which
is that has the same facial features as that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
He's like, that's not my acting thing. It's like, well,
you don't want to do the thing. Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
And then and the thing is you bring that up.
You can a d R all that audio. Yeah, what
I understanding. But yeah, so they end up going to
uh the dinner and everything's going fine until he is
a rubbing the makeup off. That is a really I
will say I did see this movie when I was little.
That seemed scared of the shit out.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Yeah it's creepy, but it was.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Just like the teeth and stuff like that, Like that
was pretty creepy, because yeah, this was like, this is
like my first John Carpenter film. This was the first
one I ever saw. I was so like I was,
I was a scaredy cat when I was I didn't
really like watch horror movies until I was like thirteen.
I saw a Scream when it came out because my
sister watched it. So I was like from the doorway

(01:15:22):
watching like you know me, I wouldn't watch it, watch
it with her, be.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Like no, I was watching Halloween and Ship like early.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
I don't know how. I mean, I had friends that
did that, you know what I mean. I would Now.
I liked this stuff because I would walk down the
movie aisles and look at all the VHL. Yes, I
used to love looking at the vide Oh yeah. And
that's the funny thing is like, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
When I was younger, I wanted to be in a
video store every day. I got my wish one way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Well, it's funny. So like video Villa is actually the
video Villa store that I grew up with. Oh okay,
and uh they changed the name. Uh, And it's a
consignment cell place and they have a sign and the
sign has so they took down the sign. It's been
literally setting in outside on the ground in front of
the building for the last two years, same spot right

(01:16:10):
from the store. The store's open, but it's not that anymore.
And I've asked them multiple times, can I have the
sign or buy the sign. Yeah, They're like, I don't
know what we're gonna do with him. Like at this point,
I could just fucking steal it. Yeah. How big is it?
Oh it's like probably ten feet long.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's a hard one to steal.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
I was gonna say, like, this is fucking get it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Yeah, it's got it. It's been cracked because they cracked it,
but it's still still holds, it's still holding together.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
But no.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Ye, It's funny because like literally my mom contacted me
two weeks ago, so I do you want me to
contact him again? I was like, yeah, what's called? Because
because I want it and switch she contacted them and
she's like, well have you we'll call you back, and
they just never called you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
But yeah, I watched on carp as I was watching HARDTUF.
I didn't see this till way later.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Yeah, but this was like, I mean, so ninety two,
so I think I watched it like probably ninety four
when it after it had like hit TV or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Probably when I saw it was some point on TV.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Yeah, because I remember it was amber. The only reason
I remember it because I went to it was a
snow day, and I went with my dad to save
a lots to get some can goods because they were
really known for cheap can goods. Yeah. Uh and uh
we drove back home in my dad's truck and this
was on and I ate, uh uh you remember. Oh.
I don't know if y'all had them up in Pa

(01:17:27):
if it was popular in PA, but probably was the
gravy and meat in a can.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
No, if we had it, I didn't have it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
It's like it's a gravy and its almost like it's
like ham chunks, but it's pre made and a can
you just poured over bread. Maybe it's a other thing.
I remember, that's what I ate.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Maybe it might exist. I just.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Anyway, that's done with memory lane. But but yeah, so
I forgot.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
It takes the makeup off, so he takes.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Up the makeup off, and they basically get to the
idea where like, listen here, how about this. How about
we go on the run together. Okay, and we can
go down to Mexico. Okay. Uh, that should be far
enough and we should not have to deal with any
of this because we'll be on the states lines.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
It's the government wants a secret that Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Yeah, yeah, they were going to back, so no problems. Uh.
But yeah, so they're gonna they're gonna get a train ticket.
And this is when they go get the train ticket.
This is when we get the cool rain scene, which
is really really cool, and this is when she, I
guess Darrell Hannah has been able to see Nick for
the first time again. Uh, it's it's cool and all.

(01:18:46):
It's cool how it's done and and like in like
the the back you know, the background and stuff like that.
And obviously this leads to them, you know, sleeping with
each other or.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Whatever, which would have been funny, really funny to see,
Like I'm thinking of like all the comedy bits died
hair flowing would be really funny.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
That would be pretty good. Yeah, oh man, Uh yeah,
that the funny thing like they do the because another
thing that's in every single TV spot where she nudges
him while he's like cudding her was like I said,
there's like, uh, he's like, I'm not sure why anyone
tell my mom about you, and he was like, we'll
leave out all the sexual stuff and she like, uh,

(01:19:35):
she nudges him and it's funny because like like uh,
just I guess because he's not there, but you still
see the movement. I don't know, like little things like that.
I like that kind of stuff, like, ah, it doesn't
look shitty, you know what I Yeah. So they end
up making their way to the train, and they end
up getting on the train. They're going to escape or whatever,

(01:19:56):
but they have found out what's going on on because uh,
George has called some friends. They're they're they're they're tapped
George's phone and they're like, yes, who's been at my
house on a bender? Nick Halloway. And then Sam finds that,
so they're they're like, oh, he's what's called he's been
there and then they kind of they they go there

(01:20:17):
and that's when they escape or whatever I might be
that happens at some point in the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Around this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
Yeah, so yeah, it moves forward and then they get
on the train and so they find out what training
is on because they get Daryl Hannah, they read the
train ticket and stuff like that. So this is pretty
cool scene where the one thing is I'm not sure
if I recalling this when when uh dared Hannah sees Alison.
When Alice sees David for the first time, does she

(01:20:50):
know who he is because I to that point, I
don't think that she's ever seen him.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Wait right, wait, Dara Hannah know she saw him. Oh
Neil's character.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
She sees him on the train. That's where she's like, oh, no,
they know us. But like, I don't think they've come
in contact you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
No, I don't think unless we missed like a scene,
maybe a scene cut. I don't know my head, I
can't remember them meeting each other.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Yeah, I saw when when I was rewatching it this morning,
I was like, wait a second, No, you shouldn't know
who he is. Sam knows who he is, but you should.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Know who he is. Yeah, that was weird.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
That was weird. Like I said, I'm not not just think. Uh,
but yeah, so this is we get the kind of
cool scene of him running through the train car and
the thermal vision and stuff like that, and he's about
to get out, but obviously the trains ran out of
places to run. Uh, and he gets hit with the
tranquilized dark, ends up falling into the river. He ends

(01:21:44):
up getting washed up to shore. Uh and uh, he
could just leave because now everyone thinks he's dead.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
Yeah, he's got an excuse.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Exactly, but he obviously loves Allison. He wants to make
his way back to Alison. This is where I really
think the movie starts to get really good. I do
like this towards the end of the scene and the
like really those were kind of like drags, were you Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
And also like how it ends just kind of like
it's it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
I thought I always say, you don't want like Sam Neil, Yeah,
well yeah, it's just it felt like I thought that
was very stupid. It was very clever. Why would he
make that dumb?

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
DESI Yeah, it's just not like this whole ending, I'm like, Okay,
well I guess that solves that problem, Like more people
are gonna find him, Like yeah, like it doesn't feel
like nothing really got resolved, just delayed. But then the
movie feels like it's a happy ending which we're gonna
go through. But like, yeah, it's like it's just for me.
I'm just like I feel like not enough happened that

(01:22:40):
was significant at the end, other than you got rid
of one guy and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
And also like still if he when he's jumped, they're
still going to try to find an invisible dead body. Yeah,
it's not that hard to find it when you know
where I feel like how he tricks him? Yeah, yeah,
so he like he gets his friend George on the payphone.
Yeah yeah you can, Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
He gets his friend George with the pay phone and
dresses him up as the invisible answer. They think that's him. Yeah,
they like punch him and they realize it's a person,
Like oh.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Shit, he says, not so rough. He's like, well, what
did you what did you think was gonna happen? What
did Nick tell you was gonna happen? To be okay
with the punch for no reason?

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
But eventually it ends up in a construction site and uh, David,
he sees like he gets like powder or dust on
his jacket, so he's following the jacket and then of
course he's on the ledge, which I wish the movie
didn't show, like what his plan was ahead of time.
I wish they didn't show because like it's literally chevy
Chase is holding his jacket yeah, because it has the

(01:23:39):
powder on it, and it's like tricking Sam Neil to think,
and he's gonna jump.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
You could have just clipped after he fail to chevy
Chase holding on yeah, and then you could have put
the one in two together. Oh, he was holding jacket.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Or even like right before the jacket drops, then we
see him go like this yeah, uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
To splatter the ole asshole or something.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Yeah, he's doing like one line. I'm like, dude, you
haven't killed a person before. This is like it's just okay.
But yeah, I guess they see the jagger or something
they assume he's dead. It's like, you're gonna they're gonna
find out that he's not there. Yeah, they're gonna throw
dust around and be like, we won't see any invisible
bodies here.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
There's also no fits, but like, there's no way Darylhanna
is getting out this while laugh. Yeah, even though even
Sam Neil killed the doctor, what's going uh but even
that guy that's above Sam Neil, Yeah, the nicer got
the nicer agent. They're still gonna lock her up. And
I mean there's no way they're gonna let her just
leave with this information.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
Yes, But then after that, because they didn't do the
baby ending.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Yeah, after that, it's just he's skiing yeah and Aspen right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Yeah, and Aspen and then he comes in. He takes
his goggles off, but I know it's just like a
wireframe u. Yeah, they they kiss and that's it. I'm like,
oh huh, not even like the government let me go.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Well, she's pregnant, so you know there's gonna be a baby.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
We just don't get the Yeah, we just don't. Yeah,
they just didn't deliver on the baby, kind of like
the Fly didn't deliver on the Fly baby, although they
shot that weird dream sequence. Yeah, I don't know. It
just ends on a weird note and like the whole
like finale, and it just doesn't work for me. The finale.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Yeah, I mean I get it because it's just aweso
like it. It seems a little rushed.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Yeah, I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
There needs to be a little bit more of epilogue,
So like, how are things actually going on?

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
I guess I'm just not expecting it. I wasn't expecting
it to have like a happy ending. Really. Oh, we
forgot to mention he disguises himself as a cab driver.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
Yeah, maybe he doesn't hold up that Well, what are
you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
I thought it was fine.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Hey, it's it's it's better than a training places with
dan Aykroyd.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Listen. Sol Man recently so Chevy Chase in Indian Face
for this of like not as bad as soul Man, really,
you know, coming back after soul Man, I mean, unless
they start reviewing movies from like the thirties. But other
than that, yeah, I'm just like, uh, maybe that's why
I wasn't so shocked when I saw Chevy Jay's the

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Indian Cab Driver, like wow, so bad? Oh man, But
yeah it just kind of ends. Yeah yeah, but no,
for most of the movie, I'm on board with it.
I like how they're explaining his invisibility and showing all
the struggles he has to go through to be invisible,
and like it's like it's almost like a situational comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Uh but yeah the whole like government aspect, Like Samuel's
really good. He helps sell that plot line. Yeah, but
in the end, it just kind of fizzles. The movie
feels like it just fizzles out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Yeah. But and the funny thing is this movie is
like only a little bit over hour and thirty minutes,
So you had time if you want to continue something. Yeah,
if you wanted to get there's there was plenty of
time that you could tell like you know, we could
you could have used another fifteen minutes if you wanted
to flesh something out a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
If you wanted to have an happy ending, you could
have figured out a way to have a happy ending,
but this is like, well, there's just always gonna be
on the run or always having to figure out a
way to explain his invisibility, like you can't have a
normal life, or it was just it just didn't work.
It didn't work.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
It probably would have been better if you literally just
saw him leave Daryl Hannah and let her think he's dead,
just knowing the fact that like like in Dark Man, yeah,
or like like a it was it a like butterfly
effect because it was like I can't change the past.
I just have to leave her alone know that I
can never have what I want and like and it's like,
you know you could have done that. Yes, it'd been depressing.

(01:27:29):
I think they'll be more. Maybe would have sold the
tone of the movie a little bit better and then
having a happy manding.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
Yeah yeah, but overall it was an enjoyable, enjoyable experience.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Yeah, Like I like like what we to go back
to what we were saying earlier, Like I don't see
why I get so much hated, Like where the two
film credits.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
They hated this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
What's called and they're just like like like they they
said Chevy Chase was not funny it at all, And
I think I said, once again, maybe it's the fact
that like, like, I think, what kind of movie they
weren't think they were to get it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
That's also kind of the fat of the advertising and
even the film itself, Like there are times where it
feels like a comedy. No, yeah, and it works better
as a comedy than it does a drama. So I
understand them being like, well, we're really laughing too much
storing this. It's like, well, you weren't supposed to, but yeah,
the movie has an issue with tone. So I can
understand if they went into it thinking this was supposed
to be a comedy. Yeah, and it's only got like

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a few funny moments here and there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
True, I can.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
See like being let down. But that's why I would
like to show someone who's not familiar with Chevy Chase
or Christmas Vacation or any of that. So probably way,
I'm looking at your Chevy Chase action figure over there,
and you have this invisible man Chevy Chase action figure
right here. I mean that's pretty good, Like look at that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
It's a two hundred and thirty six dollars on eBay.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Jesus, I'm gonna put that right back there. Yeah it
maybe this is a movie that you can I don't
know if it has it doesn't have a cold following,
but I feel like it's on tube. Well actually, at
the time, this recording has only had three days left one. Yeah,
but I feel like people should go back and give
this one a chance. There's a lot of good elements there,
the effects just like effects wise. Yeah, it's a cool

(01:29:15):
movie to watch because it's like right between Terminator two
in Jurassic Park and they they did this other little
thing in here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
Uh yeah, I'd say check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
No, yeah, one over sent. I definitely think that, you know,
if you're a John Carpenter fan, I definitely think you
should watch it. I know it's not typically a film
that he does say anything was Starman. Yeah, you know,
I means great, Yeah, and then Elvis means like, you know,
soo's are something like the kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
Those Elvis is also great.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Yeah, and well another thing that's like I would have
liked him to do the soundtrack for this. Yeah, he
didn't do this one he didn't do Starman, and I
don't think and I think.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
He didn't do the thing Hi Marconi.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
And then uh, because uh, Shirley Walker did this, and
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Shirley Walker she did a Batman in the animated series theme.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
I think I know she did Escape from l A. Okay, yeah,
now I don't know what was. I don't know if
like Carpenter worked with her, but I do know like
one of her one of her big credits was Escape from.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
La Yeah, she was pretty big of that. I think
she did like Mask of the Phantasm. If I'm right
fact checking fact.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
Check, I will go back and fact check.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
I know her name, and I'm thinking that many animated
series and I don't know why. No, I don't know
why I would be connected with those two. So it
has to be right. And if I'm wrong, I'll freeze
fram here. And do you just put a thing that
says Tony is wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Okay, but yeah, maybe, like I said, like it would
have been cool to have. Uh, it does feel weird
because he did so many of his soundtrack it's so
it feels weird when there's a movie that he didn't
do the music for.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Yeah, And then I don't blame him. Yeah, you don't
want to do it all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
I would like like one thing I brought up, like, uh,
what was it? The fire Starter the remake? The good
part of that movie is John Carpenter's soundtrack. Use it
for it?

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Did him and his son?

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Yeah, I didn't know that. I don't know they were
involved with that one.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
It's he just did the music, that's it. Yeah yeah,
And that was that's.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
What he did with the Halloweens. Yeah, they're like can
we have could will you be part of the movies? Like,
I just want to do the music. I don't care
about anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Which is the new those longer versions of it that
he did with There's Cold, Like the music videos of
them all playing in the band together do all that once?

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
I love John Cropper's music.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Oh yeah, there's a new.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Loss Themes album. I think either on the way or
it's out now.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Well, I know there's two.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
Yeah, there's uh yeah. I listened to his music all
the time. I just put it on Icepace out it's
good ship.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Yeah. I mean in the Mouth of Madness has got
it too as well, but yeah it's yeah, uh yeah,
like I said, I'm up with you, same thing. Like
I think it's a great movie. I think people should
check it out, you know, like I don't understand all
the hate it's like, but it's not a perfect movie,
you know, it's I understand that it's not like and
like you said, it's not even a could classic. I

(01:31:58):
just think it is a movie that maybe people forget
on about and think they just need to retry it.
We watch it or something.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
Like that visually and like visually and like the comedic
sort of thing. It felt. This felt like kind of
like they live a little bit, like the look and
everything and how they live, had some like dry humor
and then had like some slapstick with the fighting. Yeah.
I don't know, I feel like that'd be a fun
pairing those two movies.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
No No, No, and then It's That's All And that
was in San Francisco too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so that's
another one. They lived pretty good to think, what if
they like because he he was gonna do Kurt Russell
but he but what's called They got Roddy Piper instead?
Do you think it?

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Either way?

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
Either way? Many either way, it would have been a
good movie. Either way, what was.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
There's the funny like outtake where like uh uh Roddy
Roddy Piper was a was it? Uh uh? I kick
something where he gets the cop, gets cops gun and
tells him to run away. He's like says something like
skip a beat or something like that, but like he
literally just said like the it was the words of
like what to do, but he just read that as

(01:33:06):
the dialogue. Oh yeah, kind of like the Hercules disappointed or.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Something like that, Like you black dynamite sarcastically, I'm in charge.
I will say, you know, you could have put Roddy
Piper in this. Yeah, he had experience with body paint
when he was half black face for that one Wrestlvania.
I forget what the plotlineer that was, but uh, he
would have done it. Roddy Piper was a really good actor,

(01:33:31):
like I've seen like how Comes to Frogtown. I know
they're like corny movies, like I did one with them
years ago on Patreon, like uh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Oh, you did the Wizard one No No No No.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
Immortal Combat which is also called Result to Kill, and
he's hilarious in that. I want to watch a movie
from fuse back. It's Basically it's called uh, oh God,
the I'm forgetting the title, but basically it's Christian Soul.
It's like a guy locks all these people in so
they find their Christianity. Christian Christian soul movie. I think

(01:34:05):
it's called The Wreck and Silent or something. And Roddy
Piper's and I'm like, I gotta watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
He was he's really funny when he's on Uh It's
always Honey Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Yeah, I met him years ago. He was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Yeah, they say he was a really good I had
a pick.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
There's one Monstermania convention where I only have like two
or three pictures and like, I guess a computer died.
We never had a backed up on anything. So there's
only like three pictures I have from it. But I
had pictures like Roddy Piper, I had pictures with the
entire Evil Dead cast and they're just gone, oh shit,
all those moments gone like tears in the rain. But yeah,

(01:34:42):
that's all I got.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
And so I mean, obviously, if you don't know who
Tony is, where.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
Everyone knows who I am?

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
There you go, that's right everyone, No.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
No, I'm kidding. Hack the movies. Hi, I'm very famous
and important, and if you don't know who I am,
then you're real loose. Everyone makes fun of you. And
when you're walking to public people are like that guy,
he's in cool. So you want to subscribe to my
channel so everyone stops making fun of you. By the way,
I do this at like conventions and stuff, when I'm

(01:35:12):
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I'm like no, I'm like I know, because everyone's been
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So subscribe. We talked about movies doing all inside a
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(01:35:38):
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