What Is The Worst Silent Night, Deadly Night Movie So Far? - Hack The Movies (#438)

A new Silent Night, Deadly Night remake is on the way. Last year I reviewed the original with Tim for its 40th anniversary. We are back now to talk about all the sequels and the previous remake. We are going to ask the big question. What is the WORST Silent Night, Deadly Night so far?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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well not the first one and not the one that's
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Night movies. And we're gonna try to figure out what
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Speaker 2 (02:44):
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Speaker 1 (02:53):
This is gonna be We've been messing to each other
throughout like the last week, and we have we can
already tell we have very different opinions on these films.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
This is gonna be an absolute roller coaster.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yes, Uh, Silent Night, Deadly Night. Last year we did
the We did the first one for its fortieth anniversary,
and recently it was the forty first anniversary, or as
I said on a live stream with Lauren, the forty
oneth anniversary.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
That's that works. Never been more embarrassed in my life.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
We all know, I just straight upset and like I
was hoping like I caught it in time. But now
Laurence like forty one, I'm like, motherfucker. Everyone heard it.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
The Spike dig Dog was.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Uh yeah, the new ones coming out uh soon. We
should actually talk after the stream if we want to
cover that. Uh, because apparently I'm taking worse Return of
the Living Dead off the calendar because we don't know
what's happening with that movie.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's a thing.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, but Silent Night Deadly Knight remake is happening. Some
people got to see it early. I unfortunately did it.
But yeah, we uh, we talked last year how we
were going to come back and do all of these,
and I had tim I had all year to watch them,
and I crammed it in a week, but I had
to watch a lot of other things.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, I've rewatched I mean, I've watched these a bunch
of times, but rewatching them all you realize, like, even
though they're so different, a lot of things do start
to blend together. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, but yeah, i'd never seen these before except for.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Two, which is just one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh my, yeah, it was by the way I looked
more into it. It was literally supposed to be one.
I'll get into that, okay. But yeah, i'd never seen
three or four. I remember Movie Dumpster reviewed five, and
I thought I had seen five, But I think I
just remembered their review because when I was watching it, like,
I don't remember a lot of this. Yeah, and i'd
never seen the first remake that they did in twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
That was the Lone Wolf that I seen it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Seeah, now we're all up to date. We're fresh. We
love the original, very very good.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Let's let's get it to these bad boys here. First off,
we have Silent Night Deadly Night, Part two. The door
of the mental hospital opens, releasing Ricky from its confines.

(05:19):
He takes with him the terrifying memory of his brother
Billy's death and the burning image of Mother Superior, the
powerful figure that brought about his brother's violent demise.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Ah, I don't think she was.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I mean, she was a problem, but I think that
killer Santa Claus is kind of the initiator of anyway.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
The biggest fucking bitch.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
We gotta talk about Mother Superior. Art for Ricky, starting
a new life means avenging his brother's death by whatever
means necessary, whether be cutting the edge of a shiny
steel knife blade or the electrifying charge of a set
of battery cables. Ricky is set in this blind journey

(06:07):
of revenge, leading ultimately to Mother Superior. As Mother Superior
praise in the dark, we suggest the box the VHS
box is giving suggestions to the fictional character Okay, as
Mother Superior praise in the dark. We suggest she say
an extra prayer for herself, because not even her faith

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will be enough to stop Ricky, but prayers will do
little for her in the silent part of This Night.
That was not a very good back of the box.
It was not a very good back of You know
what the back of the box should say, remember that
first movie. Well, if you don't, you're gonna see a
lot of it again. Okay, So this is directed by

(06:52):
Lee Harry. He had never directed a film before.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
The producers apparently.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
What I'm here, the producer hired him to re edit
the first Silent Night Deadly Night into a new movie.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
They wanted to do like reshoots and stuff, to kind
of just basically make it the same movie, but now
with this like narrative structure of Ricky talking about them
as if their past events. But apparently they just started
like writing so many scenes. They were like, fuck it,
let's just add some more scenes and we'll make this
a second movie instead of a re edit of the

(07:32):
first movie. I don't know why they wanted to re
edit the first movie in the first place.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
It doesn't make sense either way you look at it.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, I have no idea why they did it, but
he apparently while editing it was just like, how about
we just make this a whole second movie. And then
someone should have said, okay, well, how much of a
script do you have written?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
And he's like twenty minutes, you know, Okay, well, I
guess you could just like condense all that stuff down
and maybe like a four minute like recap, and they went,
oh no, it's most of the movie. It's literally the
entire film.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
It really is. I can't stress enough. Sion Night, Deadly
Night too. For the first forty minutes is a guy sorry,
what was his name? The brilliant actor there, Eric Freeman?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
What fuck the movie did he think he was in?
That ruined his career? He literally looked at me and
he said, this movie ruined my life. Look, no offense, Freeman.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
I don't know how much of her career is gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I mean, he was chiseled. You see him, you should
see him now. He is like, it's like a biker yeah, skinny.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Uh So you have these scenes of Ricky from the
first one, the younger brother who survived and went naughty
at the end of the first one talking to a therapist.
He's recently been arrested for attacking someone. Yes, and uh,
he's just talking about events that he was too young
to remember.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
In some cases, I remember them perfectly because Billy told
him everything. Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
But yeah, for the first forty minutes, it's mostly the
first movie.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
I think it's I think.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
They said it's got twenty five minutes of recap of
the first film.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, and you know, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
They show the original mother superior actress, and then it
cuts to the new actress with some like bird makeup.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
But it's like that's a completely different It was like
Halloween for Donald Pleasant's bird makeup and it should have
been switching the all time like his. Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
But yeah, they go over to everything like tim remember
when we talked about how that Santa killed Billy's parents.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, they pull over and he's just you know, they're like, hey, Sandy,
you need any hope? No, not really, and then just boom,
immediately gun shoots.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
The dad, uh, grabs the mom, tries to get a
little naughty with her.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Then she fights back, so then he slices her throat
and then he just starts yelling into the woods.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Because he knows.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Billy ran out there. Wow, little baby Ricky's just crying
in the car.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah. And then he's just like, you know, calling the
kid where you're at your little bastards, Yeah, yeah, just
freaking him out. The kid watches his mom die.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, and then we never can see the end of
this interaction.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
I assumed the guy just left or that pasuit or something. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
And Tim, remember that other time in the first review
where we talked about how he killed those guys.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
On the sled.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Then he's like, all right, buddy, your turn. Next he's like,
all right, I'm gonna be here. And then somehow Billy
just knows what's been happening this whole time. Yep, that's
been lurking in a bright red white suit with bells,
and no one he heard him, and then he u
he Friday the thirteenth, Part five's him. Hey, Tim, Remember

(10:45):
we talked about how the cops accidentally almost killed the
other guy who they thought was the killer Sata in
our first episode. So then the cops are driving around
and they see this Santa Claus breaking into someone's window
with a ladder and and they're like, we gotta stop this.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
So they break break is how lost in boots down.
The mom's like what's going on?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
They're like freeze and it turns out it's just a
dad trying to.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Totally way to ruin another Christmas.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
At last, they didn't kill this Sannah. Yeah, I realized,
hold on realized the sunglass. At least they didn't kill
this Sannah.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Was that annoying? That's what it's like to watch this movie, Tim,
except with like a shitload of eyebrow raising.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Tim, Is there anything good in this movie? Yes, the recap.
How do you feel about the rest of the movie. Honestly, yes,
there's some.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Like very hilarious one liners, very good kills, very funny
facial expressions. This guy was so animated with like his
facial expressions throughout the whole movie. Yeah, eyebrow raising, cross
eyes like, yeah, I think he was good, Tim, I
think he was hung like a horse Tony, Like, you know,
just like very animated.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Man, My time is very valuable, Oh in mine isn't.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, but no, yeah, you had like you know, the
electrical battery terminal kill was that was cool? That was cool.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Eyeball explosion not so much that, but the rest was cool.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
And then like this movie gave us one of the
most iconic Yeah, that is the funny thing.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
So this movie is more remembered as an internet meme. Yes,
everyone has probably seen the out of context garbage shay bag.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, Carbine Day.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
No, that's how I was first introduced to the movie.
I didn't even know that was Silent Night Deadly Night too.
There's no Christmas shit in it, so I had no
idea it was a Christmas thing.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, this movie. Like also, it's it's being like the
other scenes are filmed in la Yeah, it doesn't look
obviously at all, like very like you know what I mean.
But yeah, Like there's a stuntman almost died in this
movie during the scene with the car flipping. Oh dude,
Lucy was here. That was a good stunt. That was
like because it went wrong, but luckily he was like.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Oh shit, the stuntman who looks nothing like Eric Freeman. Yeah, uh,
you know what, there are good moments in this and
that's why I'm more upset than it wasn't just its
own movie and it wasted so much time just recycling
the last movie.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
You can, honestly like, if you own this movie in
any type of format, just skip like like half of
the movie. I mean, you could have fun or just
don't watch the first one. Yeah, I was gonna say
the second one.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
You can't tell people like, yeah, if you want to
skip through it, just watch the second one. I'll tell
you everything you need to know. You'll miss out. You
will miss out on the most important part of her
the first movie. It's always Christmas on the warm side
of the door.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
There will be Nomo. I've already listened to it like
on repeat, like a hundred times, so I will say.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
One of my favorite things with Ricky is when he
talking about how he killed uh the rapist, oh yeah,
or someone else and it cuts back to the therapist
like wondering where he went, and then he's right next
to him.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
He's like he's like, got your attention.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Then he goes red car good note.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
That's what I'm saying. There's like the most random Woodliners.
It's just odd dialogue in this movie. And like I said,
like there are some really good kills.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
There's like I love the movie theater part Yeah, where
the guys are talking during the movie and then the
camera keeps cutting up. He's like, oh blah blah blah,
blah blah.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
And then it cuts to Ricky Yeah, sh naughty gets
pissed of shit. I mean, I get it, I'm all
of those guys.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
But yeah, you get a pretty fun like killing spree
at the end, and then he switches into the Sana
outphit yeah uh and he goes to chop up mother
superior dope, who's still alive? I guess I don't know.
I this one's it's hard to review this one.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
It's hard to review because it's half a movie. It's
half a movie. There's just good moments in it, and
you get the icon of garbage day, you get some
good kills, you get some very funny lines.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, it's more enjoyable as like a meme.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
So bad it's good thing.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, But like it's it's really hard to judge it
as its own thing.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
You don't really take it seriously as a just watch
it for fun. Who can take any of these seriously?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Especially this one, especially this one too? But yeah, I
don't know, Like I I would never go out of
my way to like buy this unless it was part
of like a pack, because it's like, what am I
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
What I think it is? I think like they do
that thing where they try to screw over by like
oh yeah, you have to buy two in this pack
in order to watch like four and five. Like there's
no way you're gonna be able to purchase this movie
on its own. I do have the tape.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, I just think it was very misguided. I think
that might have been like what stopped this from becoming
a big slasher franchise. I think so they attempted, and
then by after three they started go in the different directions.
But I really think this just was just a total
non starter of a franchise, like, oh, well, there we go,
here's something, here's a couple new scenes, and that's it.

(16:12):
Ruined Eric's career, ruined Eric Freeman. He could have been
I don't know what was coming out around this time.
When did this movie come out?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
I mean when he told me that he didn't do
another movie after this, I'm pretty sure he didn't do
a con until like twenty nineteen or something, or you know,
he could have been one of the Batman's. You know,
he could have been Man, he could have been Freeze. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
I'm trying to think we are like some big like
nineties stuff that he could have been in. I mean
he probably could have given Jim Carry a run for
his money. We could live in an alternate universe where
Eric Freeman is the mask too.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
And he just says smoking. No, he actually would be
good as the best. Yeah, somebody stop me, he said garbage.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
D I have to party prt y.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
That would be really good. Imagine him remake the mask,
Imagine him doing Cuban Pete. Dude, they call me Cuban Pete.
So also, if you do want to play a drinking
game with your friends, just every time he does an
eyebrow raise, take a shot. You will not survive the night.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
But yeah again, short review for part two.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean there's really not much.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
So I did see that there is a short fan
film that I think he acted in No Shit, and
it's like about Ricky in like therapy years later. Look,
I don't know if it's in continuity with part three,
But then I also I have a theory about four
or five.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Being in continuity. You made this.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
No I was looking him up and it said like
twenty eighteen Ricky.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
That lines up with the timeline of him like giving
a shit again, or at least like attempting to do fight.
It existed, I would have included it in this.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I would have included Tim, we might have to come
back and watch nikes.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
We're not doing that.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
What if wait? What if it's short? Because I saw
him in like a like a room, like an interrogation room.
What if it's him just recapping the movie.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
He was just recappy part two of part two of
part one. You know what I mean? He's like and
then I then I said, garbage Day shot up half
the neighborhood instead.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Mother, and I killed only naughty people. And they're like, well,
that guy was just taking his trash. Hell, why did
he get killed?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I don't know. Literally, when he utters like the motherfucker
after he kills him, you're just like, why why do
you do that? I forgot he goes motherfucker Like what
that guy do? Why? So funny? Uh? But yeah, it's terrible.
It's it's not just watch it for fun, watching for fun?

(18:53):
Watching for fun? Now? Tim?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yes, years later they came back and they did Silent Night,
Deadly Ricky story's not finished yet.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Can you please read the back of the box that
I printed out. This is Tony's top three. This is
in Tony's Top three of All Time Silent Night, Deadly three,
Better Watch Out, the horror classic that shocked the world
is back with a new mind jolting terror. In Silent Night,

(19:23):
Deadly Night three, Doctor Newberry has saved the life of
the hideously injured Ricky Caldwell. The doctor has encased the
patient's exposed brain inside a plexiglass cap, yet he has
failed to revive him from his deep coma. In Newberry's
attempt to reach the comatose victim's mind, he connects Ricky's

(19:46):
brain to a wave gifted clairvoyant Laura Anderson, who unexpectedly
taps into the dark and twisted realm of his haunted dreams.
Ghastly things start to happen, and Detective Connolly Robert Kulp
from I Spy must fight to stop the dangerous experiment.

(20:10):
When Lara's nightmare ends, the all two real terror of
Silent Night, Deadly Night three begins. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
So this one comes to us by from Monte Monte Hellman.
He was the second unit director on RoboCop and he
was one of the executive producers on Reservoir Dogs.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
He's worked on a.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Lot of films. He claims that this is not his
best film, but his best work.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I don't know the difference. He said that it's his
best work, though not his best film.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
This is like his favorite thing that he ever made
with Silent Night, Deadly Night three.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Uh, Tim love this movie.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I didn't know what to expect, and look, I like
the dream like vibe.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
You like you like Bill's mo Bill Moseley in Twin Peaks. Yeah,
well that's the thing. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
I'm like, Oh, Bill Moseley is ricky this time, he'll
probably be wacky.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
And I'm like, oh no.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
He actually gave a more restrained performance which I wasn't expecting,
although still kind of humorous, like when he's hitchhiking.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, in the hospital. Yeah, that was great. But it's
got this.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Cool dream like vibe and I'm like, wow, that's like
like a David Lynch sort of thing. And then you
get Richard Bamer who was Ben Horn on Twin Peaks,
Eric Deray who was Leo Johnson in Twin Peaks, and uh,
what's her face? Lara Harring, eric Deray's girlfriend, who was
one of the ladies in mohalland Drive. So you have

(21:37):
like most of a David Lynch cast here before.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Twin peaks, by the way, I think so I liked that.
I liked her.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
She's like a blind girl and she has like some
kind of psychic ability, so she's like communicating with his brain.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Now spoiler or not spoiler.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Going back to the last film, the cop shot him
all in the torso.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, what happened to his brain? Why? Why is he
in a coma? Why why hea cooma? And why is
his brain in case in a plexiglass domes? Okay, the
coma because he did bleed a lot. I know he's
alive at the end, but he could have went into
a coma. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
The literally the top of his skull has been removed
and there's a plexiglass dome with a contraption around it,
and it's like he then has to cover up when
he escapes the hospital with a dude. And then I
think he also remembers stuff from the first film that
he wasn't present for, like the parents getting killed by Santa.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
The flashbacks are coming into him too. It makes no sense.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
So yeah, and uh, most of it is this doctor,
doctor Newberry, like he knows he's a problem, and he
like refuses to let him die because he wants to
explore this site.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Happens to every great doctor. We'll get there, dude.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Man, I loved it. I loved the music. I love
the way it was filmed. I like that it wasn't supery,
it was trying something with it. They kind of make
fun of sequels. Apparently there's a line about like deja
vu or whatever, and it's kind of making fun of
pointless sequels.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
We definitely had a very horrible blind performance, by the way. Yeah,
so you don't realize she's blind. You don't realize she's blind,
and so she whips out the cane basically, and then
you were in like the tail end error of the
like telepathic psychic. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
And also the dreams is probably a little nightmare on
ELM Street dish. Yeah, but no, it just had a
cool vibe for me. I love the thing that wakes
him up from his coma.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Oh that was good.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
It was just a guy in the hospital dressed like
Santam making fun of him.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
I'm like, hey, Ricky, want to drink? What's that vegetables?
Don't drink.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
There should be a rule like in that hospital, like
no one can wear a Santa within twenty feet of
that room.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, yeah, that that actually was. That scene was great. Yeah,
that scene was great.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, but again it also is very human. I do
love that he goes to Granny's house, yes, because he
could psychically know where they live.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
They beat them all there.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
He hitchhiked faes sir and they made a stop or something.
So yeah, but I like that he goes to the lounge.
He goes to some kind of stop. He kills the
guy and then wears his beanie and the beanie is
just over his head.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
But also, all right, we'll get to it. But I'm
just like, there.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Are a lot of offscreen kills in this.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
A ton of off screen kills. We don't see the
dome explode or the brain sload or anything.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
But I'm kind of fine with like the more reminding
of like an early slasher like Halloween, which isn't very gory.
I know the previous movie we forgot to talk about it,
freaking Ricky shoved an umbrella through a guy and opened it.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
That was kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
But there's one kind of went backwards on the kills.
It really did try to be character driven with the
brother and sister. The girlfriend was kind of weak.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Girlfriend was weak. Brother was extremely hairy.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
I always forget that Eric Deray because in Twin Peaks
his hair is always back in a Ponytown slick. But
I've seen like old interviews stuff. I forgot that he
has just naturally curly.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Hair, like the eighties hair metal.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Also, I can't find anything about him like anywhere. No,
Like I think the last thing he did was maybe
twenty fourteen, and he just doesn't act anywhere. But I
can't find any information on what Eric Deray is doing now.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Lives in the sand castles or something.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Someone let me know what Eric Deray is doing. Does
he still have long, curly hair? I want to know,
is he still hairy? I want to know these Yes,
it's still hair. That tubscene was so awkward. That's entirely
too small for t people. Oh yeah, that was uncomfortable.
They didn't do the killer in the san outfit. Uh
but yeah, I was actually shocked that Bill Moseley was
like so quiet during it, but I.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Gave it like a cool vibe.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Although it's funny when you watch him in a row,
it's like, Wow, he was a real chatterbox in that
last one. And I guess they removed the Quippi part
of his brain.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah. I mean, like that's the thing too, like what
do you what do you how many total lines did
he actually have?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Like he says like Lara, yeah right, Lara, Yeah, Lara, Lara.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I think he did he say naughty at any point?
Maybe once, I maybe.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
But I know at the end, she's just like Merry Christmas.
And then it cuts to like an hallucination of him
going Anna happy new.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
It breaks like the third wall and looks at the camera.
I was like, fourth wall, fourth one, third one would
be very weird. Sorry, sorry guys, A while.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
I will say, Okay, so I like the whole blind
so like on paper, I guess the endings sounded better
where it's like she's in the basement and she turns
off all the lights, but the movie's lit too well,
so I'm like he can see you right there, like
you're you can turn off. I mean, it's not her fault,
she's blind, but it's like you got to have turned
off more lights for this to work, right, right.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
It was very and it was a very anti climactic
like ending as far as his death too, yeah, like
doesn't he just kill himself? Essentially, it doesn't like he
like puts the thing into himself. Yeah, and I'm just like, Okay,
I guess so, I don't know. The music did it
for me.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Okay, music score, music and dream like vibes the whole
like connected dreams are really cool.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
We love a score. I don't know. I give it
like a out of the series. It's definitely in like
the bottom. This is the time, okay, up let us
know in the comments and dude, when she's like in
the therapy office and she's talking to the therapist and
it turns around it's him in the chair with the
jar on his head.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I just want to be normal.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
No one is normal. It's it's it is wacky. It's
very it is very wacky. I will not deny.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
But she like hallucinates the nurse dyeing and the blood
all over her face.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
There were cool moments in this man. Listen, every movie
has a good moment for sure, you know. And I
think it was refreshing. It was definitely different.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, I was gonna say, tim after the last one
is literally just the first movie.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
It was different.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
It was nice that they like tried something different. It's
still a guy killing on Christmas. Uh, this one, I
was gonna say this kind of gives like Part seven
Friday as far as just like the Psychic Yeah Connectic
yeah that era. Yeah, you gotta start taking Clarton before

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you come over here.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Something I'm here. Something time I come here, I am
like pouring out of my eyes.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I usually like it happens to me once in a while,
but I usually I like clean up and stuff. I'm fine.
Something down here has got you?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Man? Are you alerginy cats? I'm okay. Every time I'm
here this happens. I feel like it's only recently though, Yeah,
it's happened. Maybe it's probably like the third time. Huh.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
There are some leaves, maybe someone tracks something inside.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I'm gonna the whole store.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I literally after we filmed that last time, I like
scrub the cows because it was bothering me too, and
I don't.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Know what it is. Good. Okay, get like an air
purifire just for suck it all out?

Speaker 1 (29:14):
How am I gonna afford all this, Tim to make
you comfortable? Patreon dot com slash hack the movie so
we can get an air purifire so poor Tim doesn't
die trying to entertain you people.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Sorry, guys, I appreciate all you. Sorry, I'm a weekly.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
As much as two dollars a month can help tim
surviving episode back in the movies. Okay, uh yeah, I
don't know why this movie clicked with me. I watched
it again last night, really, and I really dug it.
I really dug it. I also watched part two again
right before you came, and by part two I meant

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skip skip skip skip skip skip skip to the last ye.
I don't know, I dug it. I really really like
this one. We're split on this. You wanted the kills
and the shlockiness.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Right, I did, I think, And I just wanted the
brain to at least explode or something at the end,
like nothing ever really happened with it. It was just there.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
But I will say, if they were gonna kill Ricky,
then yeah, they had to have done something like that.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
He goes out so lame.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, the brain needed to explode or break something something
I did, like when he kills the one guy at
like the restop or whatever, and it cuts back and
his head's just sitting on the counter. We don't always
need the gore. Sometimes stuff like that is cooler. But yeah,
some people don't like this one. You're one of them.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I am.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I'm I am fully aware that I'm probably in the minority.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
By the way, I watched this on Bill Moseley's birthday.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Apparently, Oh wow, I like watched the movie like that
was great, and I like signing the ex and it's
like Bill Moseley's birthday.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I'm like, even better. There you go, right, So maybe
there's a deeper meaning to this for you too. If
you're a Bill Moseley fan, check it out. He's check
it out. He's got really good facial expressions he do.
He's doing the half eye to a lot throughout the Yeah,
he's I don't think they show any footage from two

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not too. Yeah did you get a mini flashback from
one in this one too, don't you?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Yeah, he remembers stuff somehow. But yeah, I guess they
can't show too because Bill mostly looks nothing like Freeman,
like just not even a little bit. I wasn't like,
I guess I missed early on that it was Ricky.
In for a minute, I thought it was Billy. I'm like, oh,
did Billy somehow survive because he's able to remember stuff
that Billy would be able to remember, it made more sense.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, it probably would have.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
He could have woke up like what happened to my
brother and he'd be like, okay, Well he started talking
really weird.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
And he had really animated eyebrows.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
He killed Mother Superior for you, and then we shot him.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Billy didn't get shot as much as Ricky and Ricky
somehow survived.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
He got blown away, dude, and.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I guess we assumed someone shot him in the head.
After the movie he started rolling it somehow's brains out.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
His brain is in a plexiglass. Do I did?

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Like the whole Frankenstein thing where the doctor is like
trying to make this experiment work.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Like doesn't.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
He doesn't kill the cop, but he like flees from
the cop.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right literally just straight up stabs the doctor right in
the stomach, right like right, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
He's like, I'm doing all this stuff because I gotta
make sure my patient because all this work that I've done,
and then it just kills him.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Robert Colp he is in another Santa Slasher. Can you
guess which one? Uh? No, wait, Jack Frost, No, Santa
Sleigh starring Bill Goldberg.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
He's the Grandpa and Santa Slav. We're showing Santa Sleigh
at the next wrestling event at the shamany. Oh, yeah,
maybe I'll try it again.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
But like, for like two years in a row, I
tried to get Gilberg to come on this show to
review Santa Slight, and both times it fell through.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I don't even think he's on social media anymore.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
So yeah, twice I tried Tim twice.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
I try.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I really wanted to be like, guys, we got Goldberg
Wayne Gill instead.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
We need it, please make it happen.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
I wanted to, but yes, so men said, we're kind
of an agreement on two, we are disagreeing on three.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let us know the comments.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
I want to know, let us know what you think
about three. I really need to know what you guys need.
I can't be the I do love problematic part threes.
It's been very well covered. I'm very consistent in liking
Controversial Part three.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
And I think I convinced you a little bit on
Child's Play three too.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
So you there's a lot of people who agree with you.
I knew people liked it like I like it, but like, yeah,
there are apparently a lot of people that are like
I love three.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
People didn't make it love it but people have spoken.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Although speaking of Bill Mosley in Part threes that I
don't like go back to earlier this year, we did
all three Rob Zombie Firefly films, Boy and I finally
watched Three from Hell. Talk about just doing the same
thing over and did you see Three from Hell?

Speaker 2 (34:04):
No, dude, I gave up, like after what what was
before that?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Well, Devil's rejects in that kind in general, I gave
up after each two. Yeah, so did I and I
haven't now, like, now I've seen this, I might check
out a few other things. It wasn't until like the Monsters,
I started watching him again.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
And that was did you review that? Yeah? Watch it?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, go watch that. Casey loved it.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I did not. Me and me and Sean did not
like it.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Okay, but no, Three from Hell tim they literally so
they survived the end of the first movie, which is
and then and then sid Haik dies in jail, even
though you could have killed him between films, but apparently
the producers wouldn't have greenlitted.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
If he wasn't in the movie.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
So it's like, so, yeah, Captain Spalding survived and then
died in jail, so they Yeah, so they survive Baby
and Otis and their new brother who they just never
mentioned h Gape and then they go to a hotel
and kill people and then they escape and they fight

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some people and an.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
End's on a shoot. It's the same movie except they live.
At the end of this it was way what worse.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, it's just worse. It's a worse version of The
Devil's Region. It was like, what was the point of
bringing this series back? You just did the same movie
again but worse.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
So like it was kind of like like the falloff
for uh. I mean, people might disagree, but the falloff
was seen like Halloween twenty eighteen and then Kills was
that kind of vibe where it was like very forced.
I mean like where were they they pumped it out
or they just kind of rehashed a lot of ideas,
you know what. But I mean it just doesn't seem like, yeah, yeah,
I ruined it.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
It just felt like they someone thought they could squeeze
some money from it.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, and yeah I was very misguided.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
But I go back and watch that whole review there go,
uh but not as good as Silent Night, Deadly Night three,
not as good. That's good, but yeah, afterwards they uh
some company acquire the rights to Silent Night, Deadly Knight,
and they had a guy, uh Brian Yuzzna that Brian Yuzza.

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I'm saying his name right. Sarah called me out in
the re Animator review that I you know it's you
yuzzn or I kept saying Yanza or something. I was
butchering it. So he had just got done doing Brider
Reanimator for Live Entertainment and they were like, hey, how
about you do.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
What we call it a uh.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Silent Night, Deadly Knight Part four, And I will read
that here.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I'm so curious that, like, how you're actually gonna think
about this versus what I'm expecting.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Silent Night, Deadly Night Part four. The Initiation, which I
think in some countries is just called the initiation for
obvious reasons. The Initiation is a bizarre, horrific ritual which
occurs every time this welcoming Committee from Hell needs a
new member. The evil responsibility belongs to Fema Maud Adams

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and her demented assistant Ricky no last name given on
the box, Clint Towards right from ice Cream Man, which
did you see? They released the first picture of the
new ice cream Man, I have not seen it. Yes,
And if you want to know what me and Tim
think about ice cream man, And if you want to
contribute to the air filter for Tim campaign patre dot

(37:34):
com slash hacked the movies, do you have.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Like I think there is something extremely strong penetrating my
nose and eyes right now. This is like a glade
plug in.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Oh, I do, But that hasn't always been here. Okay,
this is like within the last two days. Okay, so
you want me to turn it down.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
We have eliminated the possibility of the glade plug in.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
It's possibly making it worse, but we don't know what.
We don't know what the instigator was to make you
like this in the first place.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
We're just gonna keep going.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Okay, but yes, go to Patreon and watch them our
ice cream an reveal.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
They approached the task with a vengeance eternal life, it
seems requires no small sacrifice. Together, they find a young
reporter named Kim. She's smart, beautiful, inquisitive, everything, but willing
to join their unholy club and no wonder. Membership lasts

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an eternity. And you can imagine.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
The dues like the dues.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
You have to pay for the membership. Oh, it's like
when I was a boy scout. We have to do
pay due.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Not a good back of the cover for that one either.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
And so they apparently already had a script written that
was not intended to be a Silent Night, Deadly Night film.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
This is it very much feels that way.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Yes, and that's why it really has nothing to do
with the Christmas time.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Shit, there's a very small taste of Christmas.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
And he said years later, it's like, look, that was
an older verse from the script that was in there.
We had to keep it in because of the Silent
Night's Deadly Night name. But he's just like, we didn't
have time to work in the Christmas element of this
this movie.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Here he goes, I've been waiting the whole time, We've
been sitting here for this one. Hold on, let me
he needs a sip. Tim here comes Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Now you might not think it because this is from
nineteen ninety and you might assume that these types of
movies are only in the last ten years, but this
movie is.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Woa.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
This is a man hating feminist movie. Uh so, yes,
I have it here. It has a lot to do. Yeah,
he agreed to direct the project, reworked the screenplay, introduced
the subplot, which has the COVID dedicated to the figure.
The biblical figure of Lilith, who was the first wife

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of Adam, comes up in a lot of these films. Recently,
we watched That House on Eden, and that was all
about Lilith. He was banished from the Guarden Meeting and
later became a figure of women's liberation and the feminist
movement in the late twentieth century. But yeah, he wanted
to write her as an analog. Her character is largely

(40:30):
controlled by men in her life.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yep, as they should be.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
She finds independence after encountering the COVID, although it is
kind of funny. It's like, yeah, men are evil and
she's gonna fight independance. It's like, but also the COVID
of whiches women are also, That's right. So yeah, it
was a little ohm like, I don't know you're trying
to tell me movie. I don't know what you're trying
to tell me. All okay, I want to So.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
This movie star.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Neath Hunter as Kim, the main girl in this who
has the most bizarre sex scene ever in the beginning
completely where the guy's holding her in the air, but
they're not like really thrusting, and they're just laughing and
they're like.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
That it hurt after a while.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
It was very odd sexy. It was very odd sexy.
But yeah, I know neath Hunter from Carnosaur too.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
That is your ship.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
I think she's the helicopter pilot who tries to run
away in Carnosaur two and then gets blown up.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
You would, I think so you would know, you know what.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
I'm always looking for an excuse to watch Carnoisaur two again, Tim,
So I might pop that baby in later.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Maybe I'll maybe I'll do it as well. Because she
doesn't really act anymore. She's actually she was in something yeah, yeah,
and she's very pretty and very good.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
I was looking at her and I'm like, I'm like,
I've seen this girl a million times. Where do I
know her from Boom Carnisur two. I'm like, there, it
is there. It is a Reggie Banister is in this
is Eli.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
I was so hyped. He fucking hated her too, roasted
her ass in this movie. He's her hu get back
to the classifieds, you dumb, dumb. He's he's her sexist boss.
At the newspaper.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yup, just fucking Lois Lane over there, and she just
can't make it a de man's world, can't And she's
just venting to all these women around her who are
totally not going to manipulate her and try to force
them into something. But she wants to investigate a murder
of a woman who jumped off a building on fire.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
She was just burning, yeah, smacked the ground.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
And the only witness was Clint Howard. Now, look, the
credits here say Ricky Baker. I don't remember them saying
his last name.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
I don't really you, it doesn't matter. It is not
Ricky Baker. Even if it is, it's not. Well.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Look, I do think they call him Ricky maybe, And
in my head can the cults got a hold of
Ricky from the first three and they were like, you
know what, We're gonna use a big beetle to fix
your brain. Fix your brain. And then, my heart of hearts,
this is the Ricky from the first three movies. They
gave him a new head. But he is now a

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slave to this.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Cult, and he is now Clint Howard. And he is
now Clinn Howard.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I can't confirm it, but no, one's denying it, so
I think he's the same Ricky.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
This is all incontinuity. I will say that this movie
sucked significantly less this last watch for me. I think
I watched it years and years ago and I was like,
this is well fucking terrible.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I did like the effects by screaming Mad George famous
effects legends. There are some cool effects like when her
fingers yes, it went in a body heart direction. You
have like these cool demonic insects, very.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Cool stuff in this movie. And you had the awesome
opening intro credits that are signature, like the Brian using
the type of thing. Yeah, they were cool as hell. Yeah,
this the intro was cool. Yeah, the movie is actually
not that bad. This one's pretty. It's alright, it's all right.
There's some cool stuff with the cult. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Uh, whereas what we're called the like, Uh, they're yelling
at her for being Jewish or something, not believing any
of the Christmas stuff. But the cult like uses her
to kidnap a boy Lannie, who I think is her
boyfriend's brother. Yes, yes, and they want Lonnie. Why did
they want Lonnie again as a sacrifice?

Speaker 2 (44:40):
I think yes, to sacrifice as part of the initiation,
I think, okay, yeah, yeah, because she's got to do that. Yeah, yeah,
I did like that.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Clyn Howard comes in while they're in bed or whatever
and he starts watching the TV and he's watching Part three.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, Fanta clause kill get the hell out of yea,
and the dude's like, what the fuck, man, you get
out of here?

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Oh, he's just like guys stressed up with Santa Claw
because there's no Santa Slasher in this one.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
There's no Yeah. So yeah that he has that whole
fight scene. That's actually the.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Only like real slasher moment I think is when he
has the naive friend they're fighting in the uh the
apartment and then the cult covers it up. But yeah,
they went all in on demonic cults and her trying
to like betray the COVID of witches and ends.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
She just wasn't into it. Man. They just really tried
to press.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Clint Howard gets caught on fire.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I think burns. Yeah, this one.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I again, I like real weird, trippy stuff, but this
one wasn't clicking quite for me.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Yeah, it's it definitely was not as bad as my
last watch. Yeah, I mean, if you like Body Heart.
If you like Brian Usena and you've never seen this,
watch it.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I think I think it's just like you could just
tell this wasn't supposed to be silent. I do not,
And I think if it was just a movie called
The Initiation with less expectations, I would have enjoyed it. Yeah,
I wonder how much just the title being attached bothers
me and if you hate men, and again, the wokeness

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these nineteen nineties woke.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
That's think a lot of these guys complaining online.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
It's just like, I know, you're this is like the
current wave of feminism you're complaining about.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
But go back to the nineties. There was a lot
of this. There was a ton of things. Brian was down,
he was then. But yeah, again, cool effects, really really
cool effects of screaming man, George, what a what a
genius that guy was. Yeah, it was the giant worm
was cool. Yeah, the whole thing was, like you said,
the finger bending was the.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Fingers were freaking me out the most.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
When her legs were likealing together. Yeah, and stuff during
the whole trip and balls thing.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Yeah uh yeah, yeah, but watch it's mostly just fine, Okay, watch,
but yeah, uh Brian learned that he's just He learned that, oh,
maybe Christmas should be a part of this. Yes, oh
maybe there should be some kind of Santa element to this.

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So he produced the next one as kind of an
apology for this, and that's how we get the Toy Maker.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Would you like to read fume break? Guys, buckle up.
This is my favorite spoiler.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I guess this isn't the worst one for.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Tam, but the biggest surprises come in the toy Maker's packages.
In fact, you could say they're toys die for. Oh
movie legend. Mickey Rooney portrays toy maker Joe Peto, Joe Peto,
Joe Peto. Sorry, that was improv in this fun and
fear pack continuation of the Silent Night series. As the

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story opens, it looks like a fright Christmas for young
Derreck Quinn william Thorne. He's seen what living horrors lurk
inside the brightly wrapped boxes from Peto Shop, an experience
that left him mute. Now he can't even scream when
the deadly toys come to life again and in his
own house. Who's behind the terror? Is it? Jolly Joe?

(48:38):
His mysterious son Pino or even the strange newcomer named Noah.
Don't wait another moment to find out. This one's all
wrapped up with one place to go your home.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
This also when I was looking up the VHS thing.
This is another one that internationally they just called toys. Really,
it's like toys something chop it. Yeah, they didn't have Silently.
Mickey Rooney's in this. We love the irony, yes, famously
hate it. The first one was very vocal about hate it.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Boy potted it and was on the front lines with
all of the moms. Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
And here he is starring in Silent Deadly Knights.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
I fucking love that. I love that. So not to digress,
but let me just make sure the title is correct.
But there was another Mickey Rooney movie that I had
just recently watched right before we had to cover the
Toy Maker, same era. Okay, and starred one Toby Maguire.

(49:41):
What was that? And Mickey Rooney what was that? And
I believe it was called Revenge of the Red Beard. Okay.
And this movie okay, ninety four, this movie, please, for
the love of God, everybody, It's free on YouTube. Okay,

(50:02):
Revenge watch Revenge of the Red Baron. It is a
PG thirteen horror squ comedy with Toby Maguire dripped down
in Adidas kerching in his teens, Mickey Rooney. There's aspects
of Mickey Rooney in both of these movies. So watch
Revenge of the Red Baron. Okay, okay, I had to

(50:23):
get that out of there. Yes, he's Joe Pedal like
Chip Petal, but the last name is p e tt
oh and it says Petos toys, Peedo's Toys, fantastic choice, and.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
There's there's no jokes about it or whatever. No one
was really talking about that.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Stuff back then.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Uh, for some reason, the internet you have to hear
about it every goddamn day. I think we realized how
bad it was, but back then it was where it
really wasn't on the forefront of everyone hadn't changed the
world yet. So you can put this. Because I'm watching this,
I'm like, not one person's making a joke about this name.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
This is ever, just go with it.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
But then his son is Pino, and I get it Pinocchio,
but Pino Peto.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
What the fuck? Also known as peepee? Yeah not good Tony,
not good at So yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
It opens up with like evil toy killing the kid's.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Dad, which was a great start.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Yes, so it's a it's a weird question like are
these like puppet Master?

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Are they sentient?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Who made them? We find out, like you know, the
kid goes to the store and meets Joe Peto and
his weird son Pino, who's scaring everyone from being in
the store. It's like a whole thing. And like you said,
there's that that mystery of what was it Tom Tom
quinn Uh? This new guy in town who's buying all

(51:50):
these toys. We don't know what his deal is. I
actually did like that payoff at the end. Oh, it's
where it turns out the the guy who comes into town.
It's like, oh, it's the kid dad. I wasn't expecting
that because I'm like, I'm like, is this like a run.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Away why are they making out? Yeah? I'm just like, wait,
is he like a runaway killer? What's going on here?

Speaker 1 (52:09):
I do feel bad for the motel owner that he
accidentally kills.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Oh that was a bummer. He's like a let me
give me a joy.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Look, Wormy the Worm, Larry the Larva dem Wormy the Worm.
That was pretty good though, And then he's driving the
worm at taxing.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
In the car, which is a great practical kill. He's like,
pop it through his Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
That sounds really really fun. We get more lore that
apparently Joe and Pino used to live in the house.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
So Joan Pino lived in the house. That's why Pino
was like visiting and being weird.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Bed wiggling his feet like a psychopath.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, like an absolute Weirdoh yeah, yeah. So they tie
up the loose ends for the most yes, and uh.
When I was watching this, I went, oh, there's a
what's her face? Nath Hunter. She's back as a different character.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Obviously, She's like, no, she's Kim and Lannie is there.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
People from the fourth movie are just in The.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
C alludes to something that happened to her in the past,
and I'd be like, I'd be telling everyone's like, hey,
by the way, Lilith is real and there was a
bug in my brain and my fingers and there was
a whole COVID of witches.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
I mean, maybe you just don't go there.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Which, by the way, this what she's dealing with now.
She's just like, well, a guy raking toys is pretty bad.
But I had to deal with worm demons.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
I was literally watching my feet melt. I find I.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Don't believe that they were in this and just there
and just not mentioning what happened to them previously.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
I mean, and you have your Clint Howard appearance.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Too, So Clint Howard's there, and I'm like, oh, so
did Ricky survive? And then I guess without the influence
of the cult, he well, he had to fix those
burns or whatever he had, and then I guess he
became a mall Santa, and again, to my continuity, is
the Ricky from the first one, so hopefully his brain

(54:02):
is erased.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
I love when he's like got the freaking pillow and
his like what theater I was just dying. I was
like wow, But.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Yeah, it's like you can't bring back the other two
actors as the same characters and then just throw Clint
Howard but like, yeah, he's just a regular saying I'm.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Like, no, but he's he the guy from the other one,
because they're the ones from the other A little confusing,
but I kind of like liked it in a way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
I did enjoy Uh, Lonnie on his rocket skates, the
skates that like start shooting off.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
And her son is like a shithead too, yeah, swipes
the skates. Yeah he uh yeah he dies. So yeah.
Killer toys in this I love the one the babysitters
huking up and more and more toys are showing up
in the room. That scene was awesome. Scene was awesome.
That like it's like battle bots like that blade like.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, and uh, I mean twists within the twist, we
we see uh Joe throw his son down like a
cellar yep, presumably killing him.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
You know, turn your back on me when I'm talking
to you. Also, Mickey Rooney is a fucking drunk in
this movie. He is. He's psychotic, lambing Jack Daniels the
entire movie.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
And then he's in the Santa suit and he's the
one killing everyone.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
And then the mom eventually goes there because he kidnaps
the kid and everything him. And when the mom goes there,
she fights him. He takes his face off.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
He takes his face off.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Turns out the killer is really Pino, who is a robot.
He's a toy who wants to be a real boy
like Pinok.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Come on, guys, by the way, the toy And also
that's the kid from Pumpkinhead Pino. He's like the guy
who like tells like Ed Harley where they like to go.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yes, that is, by the way, I did the toob
Pumpkinhead the r L Stein one.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
I watched that. I actually want to talk. Well, you
already did the review. I did it on Patreon. You.
I thought it was OK, but a little left some
like a little bit to be desired for sure.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
But I found out it was an episode of like
one of his shows. I'm like, that was forty minutes
is probably all we need to tell. This story. Movie
kind of dragged.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I did like how it ended sad though, Yeah, that
was kind of fun. That was kind of fun. Yeah,
you go watch that on Pateo watch at some point.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
I gotta do all the Pumpkinheads. I did you Pumpkinhead
two on Movie Dumpster. It was actually the first episode
I ever did a Movie Dumpster.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Oh okay too. Yeah, you know, no one realizes there's
like a bunch of those movies.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Yeah there's four. Yeah, and I've never seen three.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
I've never seen three either. For years. For years, I
thought I saw three, But I just watched four on
cable twice and I didn't finish it all. So I
thought I was watching two different movies than I watched
four a few years ago.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
I was on two and I'm like, oh, no, I
was just watching this movie. I'm like, what the fuck
is Pumpkinhead three? I still haven't seen it? Okay, Yeah,
So Pino is the killer and he's a robot, and
I'm looking at Mickey Rooney and that toy shop, like,
how the fuck did he make a sentient robot that
I had his feelings and talks like a terminator.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
And went like Pino in the scene he's like, oh,
he's like, oh, how do you think he maybe, oh,
with a little dish.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Yeah, it shows like Ethernet cables. Yeah, it's like, ah, yeah, cables. Honestly, honestly,
they could have they could have worked in a little
bit of magic here to tie into the previous one. Yea,
and if it was one of the Beatles and he's like,
and a little bit of that would and then Kim
could pop her heead and be like that's one of
the things I thought, actually.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
That you should have wrote this. Damn that would have
been pretty good. I should have Uh.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
But yeah, it's just the dumbest ending Pino forgets what
bag he put the kid in.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
He don't forget which bag.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
He's like, I'm going to kill your son. I'm not
that one, and then you will be my mother.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Oh it's not that bag, Tony. You completely overlook the
fact that Pino our words the mom by prescremely saying
I love you, mommy, I love you. Yeah, and dry
humping hair. Well, he doesn't have a dick. You will
be my mommy. Oh yeah, that's the other thing. You
have a big reveal of him having like a ken

(58:06):
doll plastic crotch. Yeah, yeah, which you know when we
did Alien.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Yeah, really, Scott said that when Ash rolls up the
magazine to shove and Sweeny Weaver's mouth.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
His interpretation that scene is that, you know, the androids
don't have that part, but he has the feeling of
sexual frustrating. So it was like this a lot of
subtext and whatnot. There is the act that he's doing,
it's somewhat sexual. This movie didn't do that. This movie
just had him hump the girl literally like I'm just like,
oh wow, no, it's it's funny when you see one
robot being very subtle and like oh you could interpret

(58:37):
that scene that way, and then you have this like
and I want you to be my mommy and I'm morny,
but I have a.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Yeah that was no one clip me going I want
you to be my mom Please everybody clip that? Please?
Everyone clip that right now? No? No, yeah that you know.
I watched this with a with Para and literally when
that scene happening, he was literally like jaw dropped. He's like,

(59:03):
first of all, he didn't he somehow did not expect
him to be the toy. I mean I think, did
you see that? Yeah, that's what I thought too, Like
obviously I'm sorry Joe Peno.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yeah, right, Honestly all of that I kind of knew
coming into it.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
The dad, the the new guy in town, being the
kid's long loss.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
I love at the end where he's like we're all
good now and the kids like who are you? It's like, oh,
I'll tell you what tell you that. Yeah, there's been
a rough day for you. Let me reveal that I'm
your dad later.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, like when he like saw
that he was, he ended up being like like a
robot or toy kind of thing, and then saw him
to proceed to dry hump the mother by screaming I
love you mommy. He was like, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (59:47):
By the way, we saw what he looked like the
rest of the movie, And when he has less clothes on,
he's somehow bigger because he's wearing all the toy parts.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Right, another jacket and a wig. Man can work wonders.
I'm telling you, he's got fingerless gloves on. Not the toys?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Are the toys? Also saidient is that are they? Is
it like puppet Master? It was given puppet Master. It
really felt like puppet Master, but really.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Like a demonic toy type deal. Yeah, it was cool, man.
I really like this one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
I think, Yeah, I think what helps this one is
they did work in the Christmas stuff into it, and
they did have bad Guy in Santa suit. You don't
have to it doesn't have to be a slasher, but
you kind of need guy in Santa suit a little bit, uh,
even though again the one I like is one where
he's not in a Santa suit, but uh, you need
something like.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
That as he's in a Santa suit doing this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Yeah, not with my not with the Grinch thing I
wore last year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
I gave him like a red ring of rats. It
was funny.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Not in that episode, but when I did the Christmas
stream wearing that for four hours. It I spent all
of Christmas my eye on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I had to take all that. I take that Pendrol
and die. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Uh but yeah, this one's wacky, man, this one's wacky.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
It's wacky. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Oh, I've read to mention the director of this one.
Did I mention who he was?

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
It's Martin kitt Rosser, I think. Is how you say that?
He wrote Friday the thirteenth three to five. Oh, he
has screenplay by I don't know if he was the
only writer. But he is the script supervisor for Quentin Tarantino.
He's still supervising his scripts to these days.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Oh that's cool. I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
At some point Quentin Tarantino became friends with this guy,
very random, and they were like, yep, you're gonna be
my script supervisor.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
He's actually a script supervisor and like a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Lot of big movies, like the continuity and stuff making
sure everything matches and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Well, I mean, listen this this in my opinion structurally
and just pacing, and this one is probably the most
cohesive ish out of the batch. I would say maybe
minus like the random Quint Howard and the Chicken. But
it is very like it's a good flowing movie. It's yeah,

(01:02:02):
it works. This also works as its own thing. Yeah,
but it delivers on the Santa killer. And I like
that he's using toys. I'm like, that's a fun way
for Santa to kill people with evil toys. I again,
there was already the Santa thing. I don't know if
you need to work in a Pinocchio element to this,
which is interested Pino. Fuck that ship. Come on, Pinos.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
It should have been a little person. It should have
been his elf.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
When you said Pino pedal pedal, I was like, God, damn,
that is rough. That is so bad. I'd want to
I'd want to rip my face off and dry hump
that lady too.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Like you got, someone's gonna be like, oh, kind of
wine you like? And I'm gonna say like pino and water,
and I'm gonna be like, Pino.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Petal No, please, Rooney, God damn you. I think you're
really so scary in this. He is You're in a
race sho oh my god. He was literally like you
are the most biggest piece of ship to his kid,
to his kid that he created. He was he could
just unplug at any point or does he have run

(01:03:06):
him over? Oh? We found out his backstory is like
what was it? His wife was killed?

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
I think right, And then he spent time in jail
because he was rigging toys to get back at the kids.
There you go, and then somehow he was allowed to
have a toy store again.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Pedos toys come on down to Petos toys. Fucking Christ,
pretty rough.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
It's fun. I don't like it as much as you,
but it's fun. Okay, it's fun. Let me know the comments, guys.
I've been really enjoying your comments on how you feel
about these movies.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Please watch five The Toy Maker. These are all on TV.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
So then fucking silent Like ty Like goes away for
a really long, really long time, And in twenty twelve
we get Silent Night, not Deadly Night, just silent Night.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Silent not to be.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Confused with the John wu movie from a few years ago,
Silent Night. This is Silent Night twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Do I have it? I have it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Donald Low got third billing. Okay, all right, A small
town sheriff and deputy are on the hunt for a
murderous Santa Claus terrorizing their community on Christmas Eve, but
with the streets full of Santas for the annual Christmas parade,

(01:04:32):
the killer is hiding in plain sight. He has made
his list, checked it twice, and the naughty.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
Are gonna pay with their lives.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
My god, I didn't see this one until yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I didn't see this one until today.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
So apparently the idea for this remake was floating around
in like two thousand and six, which makes sense. At
that point we have like what to Texas chainsaws were
coming Yeah, all those were coming out. After screening the
first Roilm first film, Scott Schnight, who co created, suggested
the idea of a remake to Ryan Hebb, who worked

(01:05:11):
at David Foster Productions, and development started. Eventually, they got
a guy named Jason Rothwell to write it, who had
not seen the original movie. He decided to do his
own thing, although someone at some point worked in elements
from what he based this off. The covena massacre, which

(01:05:31):
was a real thing. A guy dressed up like Sanna
and tried to kill his ex. Well, he did kill
his ex wife and her family. I looked into, like
the reasons why, well, they divorced because he refused to
have a shared bank account with her. Probably these are
things you should bring up before the marriage. And also

(01:05:54):
she had three kids already. He was like, I'm not
paying for those. You have to financially spoil three of them.
And then she learned that he had a kid from
a previous thing that he was not paying for.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
And logically, what do you do in that situation?

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Yeah, so they divorced, and then I guess a week later,
he's like, I'm just gonna burn everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
With a flamethrower. Yes. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
By the way, he had a whole escape plan and
other targets he had lined up, but the fire got
out of control at the first stop and he like
severely burned himself. He got out of there, but he
severely burned himself, and he went to his brothers and
he's just like, I'm going to jail.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Bang killed himself.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
And because Hollywood is so tasteful, they waited three years,
and they like they went, let's make a movie about that,
but like, obviously, let's make it a little different.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Let's let's fucking make the cover. I don't have it here.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Let's make the cover Santa with the flamethrower, so anyone
who might have survived that incident will be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Harrif the trauma inducing from that shit. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
And it's directed by Stephen C. Miller, who recently did
a movie called were Wolves from last year with Frank Grillo.
I'm gonna watch it for Patreon at some point, okay,
or maybe I have at the time this air and
I'm not sure. Uh, loaded cast, great cast, Yeah, freaking
Jamie King is the star. You have Malcolm McDowell, Donald

(01:07:11):
Log Yeah, I fucking love from like Blade and shit.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
And like, yeah, what what was the ground of for
what's the ground of for life? For life? The towel
of Steve? No One? No, I don't know what. Who
knows that movie? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Ellen Wang Knives Child from Scott vill I just like,
oh shit, that's Ellen Wong. Uh Lisa, Marie tim Burton's
ex wife. Oh yeah, I have a picture with from
an old monster maniacon I went to show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
That picture now if I still have it, I think
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Okay, Yeah, and just a bunch of other like that
guy from that thing stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Uh, this one's pretty good. I'm not gonna lie. I
put this off for so long, and I'm kind of
happy I watched it. Yeah, I feel like though this
felt like a movie made in twenty twelve. It kind
of had the scumbag vibes of like rob Zombies Halloween. Yeah.
It was a little torture porny, which I like it
just like a little white trashy. But it was good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
I gave me flashback to like my Bloody Valentine remake, Yes,
which I really like. And that girl's in yes, Yes,
and she's also in that so yeah, it's like on
that level where like, if follows the original story enough
changes things, if anything, that references to the first movie
and the did you pick up on the second movie reference?

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Did you see what it was? What is this garbage day?

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I loved that. I loved that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
You get some pretty good kills. The fucking Wooden Schipper kill.
Holy shit, I.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Was thinking, I was like, damn, that is up. There
was that very fucking brutal, Like that was very good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Yeah, it starts up brutal with him electrocuting the guy
in the chair, killing the other girl. I I liked
his mask. He has like a clear mask over.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
His face off. Yeah, he looks pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
He kills like a kid in this. The girl in
this kills the girl, which I think in real life
the guy shot like a little girl who opened the door,
but I think she survived in real Li.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Also, did you see how fucking rude she was? She
was very rude, very rude. I want to go to
the mall. Was like, she was like, go start the
fucking car. Mom Or's something along those lines means the
poor Lisa Marie doing honey, those are mommy's heart pills.
I need those, need to take me to the mall.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Hasn't Lisa Marie gone through enough?

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
She's gone through enough. Ysa. Marie had to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Get an ape makeup in two thousand and one for
that Plan of the Apes movie. Meanwhile, her Man was
looking at Helen and Bonam Carter also an ape makeup,
and was thinking to himself, that ape is hotter than
the ape I'm hooking up with.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
I'm gonna cheat on this ape with that ape. Honestly,
I remember loving that movie when it came out. I
watched that in it is not good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
It's just so funny that he cheated on her with
Helena Bonnam Carter, but I'm like, but they were both
in ape makeup most of the time, so he had
to be like, which ape would I rather?

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
It was probably like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Now he's not only he's with Monica Blucha anymore. I
think they broke up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Honestly, that movie is not good. It's not great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
But anyway, at Lista breeds, I don't even think she dies.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
The kid dies and he kind of gives like the naughty.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
And yeah, and then I guess I have one issue
with this. We'll get to but like, there's a lot
of red herrings in this film. I thought the film
was a who done It kind of confusing at the end,
but like the killer could just be anybody because they
all are kind of shitty people. I knew it wouldn't
be Malcolm McDowell, but the movie really wanted you to

(01:10:34):
think it was Malcolm Yeah, because he was such an ass.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
He was so you kind of realize it's not him,
like kind of midway, yeah, yeah, it would be too obvious.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
You think it's like that one deputy who's late, and
then you think it's the other guy who's talking about
how Santa's evil I do love they did the grandfather
thing for the guy Stoner kids visiting his grandfather and
he goes Sanna's evil.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
He's kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Tonic and like it doesn't amount to anything Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
It was the scariest damn night of the air. Oh
ship literally was just a homage to the It was
that garbage. And of course the Antler killed. They did
the Antler kill, so there was enough. There was enough.
There was enough. But the all you really need is
the idea of a killer Santo. Yeah, and they did
it pretty well. It was a great kills. Yeah, acting

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was asked, but I thought it was shot well too. Yeah.
Uh that dark high contrast, Yeah, yeah, no it was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
It was surprisingly sodden. And I like when he showed
up at the flamethrowers.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
That was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
You brought a gun to a flight, You thought a
flamethrower to a gunfight, and then he just lights upon.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Also thought that knocked me down was going to be
so alive. You only had like a minor face burd Yeah,
he didn't look like he got messed up that bad.
But yeah, you know, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Yeah, most people dying this by the way, Donnel Log's
character was Epstein.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Yes, I was thinking the whole time Epstein stop, Like
I know people named Epstein, I feel bad for them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
That was yeah, I kind of gave an eyebrow raise
all that too. But so there's a hint.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
So like the main girl who's wearing a hat at
eye wear all the time throughout the whole film, she
had the whole Fargo.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Hack going, oh yeah, she did.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
I think her husband died the year prior. Yes, because
she prevented she she like dropped the ball and the
dude died.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
The whole thing is like she's a bad cop the
whole movie.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Yes, apparently they drop a line earlier because her last
name is Bratamore is like, you're not the only Bratimore
who took down a crazy Sanna And you're like, what
the fuck does that mean? We learn about this guy
who went nuts and with a flamethrower killed everyone and
it was her like dad, right, her dad is the

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guy who killed But yeah, he's like leaving the new
Santa's leaving like presence for people, and those are his
victims from later. So that's a moment where she drives
all the way home and sees her dad gut it
and shit, that sucks, but she's able to light him
on fire at the end. Yes, and the whole time like, okay,
face reveal who was it? I know, because remember she
kills someone that she kills an innocent guy. Dude, there

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was an asshole, but still tony.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
There was one point where I thought we weren't gonna
know who was but then they do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
And it's funny criticizing this because Friday thirteenth did the
same thing where it's like it's a who done it? Oh,
it's this lady who he didn't know existed, Like oh, oh, okay, right, yeah,
this one also the original I know he did last summer.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
That whole movie's who done it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
And then that old guy shows up at the end
and he's like, I killed someone else that night.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Then you hit me and I'm angry. It's like, oh,
what was the hole? We thought it was? That guy? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
At the end, it turns out that the killer was
the son of the original Santa Killer, who was scarred
that it was scarred mentally, but now he scarred physically
because half his head's on fire.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
I will say that it was kind of cool that
they kind of homage to the original where the apparently
the kids saw Yeah, yeah, that was good.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
But I guess I thought it was gonna be a
Who Done It because it felt that way. But they
did mention that someone's been going around every Christmas killing people,
so maybe I shouldn't have expected it. But the way
the movies framed it makes you want to think you're
looking for who the killer is?

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
How was this received? Do we know? So I will look.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Up like I didn't look up official reviews. I think
this one went straight to video, so I don't think
that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
I don't think that's why it's not as entertainment.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Yeah, but so I I don't know. The reviews for
all these movies are usually pretty negative. But some people
I've talked to I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Think good bad flicks cecil maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
But some people I've talked to you in the past
have told me that this one is like solid, and
I think they're right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I think it's fine. I think it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
It does other than the ending, but that's more of
just now that I know it's not Who Done It,
I think I'll enjoy it more. Yeah, but no, it's
you get a killer Santa, you get cool kills. It
does the idea of a killer Santa Claus without just
repeating the same thing from the original film.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Uh No, it's a solid time. And again the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Cast is great and Malcolm mcdahell is awesome in it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Yeah, Malcolm macdowll was great. He was fun. He was
very like he was an asshole, but yet he really is.
His Halloween two Loomis.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
And don A Loge is great.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
I love done. He was great.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Uh No, very very solid, underrated remake. I think no
one ever fucking talks about it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Very underrated. I mean we didn't even see it until
we didn't even see it until recently. I probably should
have watched it. Probably worth a watch also on TV. Yeah,
I meant to watch it a few years back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
My friends on their true crime podcast creep Off, they
talked about the killer in real life, and I meant to, like,
actually go watch that because I didn't know that that
was Like I remember when I saw the Flamethrower, I went,
that's fucking stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
But I didn't know it was like based off like
a real thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Uh but yeah, solid sel remakes. And now we've come
to the end. Tim Well, First off, before we get
to it. How do you feel about that new one
coming out?

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Oh? Yeah, with the guy from Halloween. That is good casting.
I suppose. No, you think about.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Billy and the original one. I mean he kind of
sort of played that character already in Halloween. It's more
he's more appropriate for a silent, deadly night movie.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
I mean, this has potential. What's who's produce? Like, what's
the production company? I think it's Cineverse, right, the guys
who still do It's not Blumhouse, right, I.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Don't know, it's not Blumhouse. I think it's Cineverse and
like the people do like the Terrifier stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Okay, now, yeah, you know what you're right it is,
it's the Terrifying Yeah production company, right, so I think.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
But I think they are doing the first movie again
because I think he is playing Billy. So I think
it's just gonna be the first movie, better kills.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Maybe a few things changed here and there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
I'm excited to see it now that I've watched all
of these.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Yeah, I've heard. I've heard some people that went to
advanced screenings didn't have a fine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Yeah, I haven't heard anything negative yet. Yeah, but yeah,
now that we'll come back for that one. Hopefully we're
gonna December twelfth, so we'll go see Yea, we would.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Have to because I'm going away around Christmas. We would
have to see it. And like we're right away, we'll
do it. It'll be a date we'll go to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
We'll go to maul and then we'll come back here.
Let's plan that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
But yeah, worst Silent Night, Deadly Night film.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
Okay, I mean god, I forget look I look, tim.
I know it's a meme there. It's gotta be two
because it's barely a movie. I it's gotta be two.
I know there's fun stuff in it, but as a
full movie it sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Okay, I'll bite. Okay for me, it's two. I'll bite
for me it's two.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
And then I guess we're ranking them then, like four,
I did like five more than four.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Yeah, to like five more than four. Although I liked.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
Both those movies, three is the standout for me, and
right underneath that is the twenty twelve one. I thought
that I like three more than twenty twelve, even if
twenty twelve is probably better and more what you want.
I don't know something about three, and maybe I just
watched it at the right time. I did take stuff
to help me sleep. That also they could feel a
little funny, I could have that might have colored my

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viewing a little bit. But yeah, for me, the worst
one is without a doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Two. I'm gonna say, ranking from best to worse is
gonna go five, then twenty twelve, then four, then three,
then two. Okay, so two is the worst. I'll bite,
I'll bite. I think that two is so bad. It's
good is literally they're just a rehashing of the first movie.

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You cut out all that recap stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
You have a fine short film there you go, but
as a full movie, it's just a skim Watch it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Yeah, watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
But it's objectively the worst, and because the extra stuff
in it is actually pretty decent, they could have made
like a really good sequel and then they did it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
So yeah, two is definitely the worst.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
And uh, this is probably the most like different a
ranking system has ever been on any of these episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Yeah. Yeah, it was a very interesting time to watch
all of these and like a very short amount of time,
but yeah it was. It was fun, and this is
a fun franchise. It's very odd we watch them in
you get.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
A lot of variety. This This reminds me of the
Howling franchise.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Oh that's a great example, which.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Are very very from one movie to the next star
very very different example, a lot of variety. But yes,
that is it from us.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
What is the worst? Silent Night? Deadly Night? Again? We'll
come back for the new one. Yep, we'll come back,
come back on as I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
I don't have an episode for Christmas planned, so we'll
come back for the new one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Very good. Also, these are for the viewers. Oh yeah,
these are both signed by Robert Brian Wilson for the
first one, Eric Free for the second one. We're gonna
give these out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Yes, I'll do what I did last year, like the
Google form again.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Do the Google form give those out? Those are for
you guys. Thanks. You know what's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Funny, I I forgot to keep doing that the Google
forum stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
I stopped it years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Because spam accounts kept targeting, and then I did it
last year and it was fine, and then I forgot
to do it out for I got all the shit
I want to give away, so.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Let's giveaway stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
I will start doing giveaways again unless someone makes a
fake profile for me and tells you you want a
PS five because that's why I stopped in the Although
YouTube is cracking down on spam accounts, they are using
a new sophisticated aay I to do it, and it
accidentally deleted my second channel and Joey C's channel for
two hours and apparently and a lot of other people's channel.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
It's gonna sound I was like, that's that's sounding great. Yes,
so I will try.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Maybe because of all these crackdowns, I can finally do it.
Uh but yeah, not as if it was Tim. Where
can we find you?

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
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Follow those thank you guys again for always being so
great to me on that heck the movies channel, and
uh yeah, keep an eye out for future events. We've
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