January 20, 2026 • 40 mins
Are you ready to die laughing?? In this episode of Jugni, I sat down with actor Sachin Mahashi AKA Sunny from the TV show Late Bloomer. We talk about his journey to acting from a completely different 25 YEAR career, life on set, the gap in representation for South Asians in TV and much more. Sunny is a true entertainer, I could not contain my laughter so I'm so excited for you guys to listen to the episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Jickney, Sonny or Satchein right. Yeah, I like
Soney and you almost always play Sonny.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I know everyone who watches it goes, dude, you're not
even acting like this is exactly what you do in
real life. No one should know your real government name.
We need our own slur. But yo, what she just die?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So you worked in the industry twenty five years? Yeah,
that's insane.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It almost saved me mentally that I was at the
lowest point of my life.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I remember that morning when I got up, I was like,
I'm not going to work. I'm calling in sick today.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You finished one career and you're you're doing another one.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I don't think she realized how big it was.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
She's like.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Many couple of no, I can't, I can't talk about that.
I don't want because I'm not giving away anything about
the show at all.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I feel like we got one little spoiler.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Which one Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
W Hi everyone, and welcome to Jickney with Pribleen. I'm
Forbleen and I am so excited for this episode. I
got the chance to sit down with such a mushy
also known as Sonny Funny enough, he also plays Sonny
on the show Late Bloomer. Guys, I had so much
fun filming this episode. Sunny is the funniest, most entertaining
(01:22):
person ever. Like I had my friend helping me behind
the scenes and she was dying trying not to laugh
so the mike wouldn't pick it up. He also has
so much dimension. He's lived like so many lives already,
so he had a lot of great advice to give.
We talked about his creative journey, his approach to acting,
life on set, and so much more, including season two
of Late Bloomer, which is streaming now on Pray TV,
(01:44):
So make sure you check that out. But you're in
for a treat, So get comfortable, grab a snack, just
you know, don't choke, and let's get into the episode.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
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Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'm so excited to do this. Why I feel like
there's so much that people don't know about you.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah that's on purpose.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah I guess it's by design. But now we get
to expose you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Welcome to Jickney, Sonny or Satchein right, Yeah, I like Sonny.
You like Sonny? Yeah, okay, okay, but is it pronounced
satchin or such a such a such an?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah? Okay, that's not even my real name either.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
What is your real name?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I don't. I don't give out my government. No one
my real name. No one's ever called me by so
when I was born, my muscie wanted to name me
such an. Okay, and my dad, for some reason, I
don't know, if he had something against her, he decided
to pick a different name. Yeah, but nobody ever called
me that name that he picked, Like, everyone would just
call me such an.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You have like so many what are they called aliases? Yeah,
you have so many alias. You have to in this industry,
in this business, in life.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
In general, you should have a bunch. No one should
know your real government name. Yeah, and you should not
have your real real address on your driver's license. Really,
why are you going to tell the government where you
go to sleep?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
What are they going to do if they know that?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You just never know? What if you get in trouble
one day and they're looking for you, now they know
exactly where to find you.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Well, what if you are in trouble and you need
to be found, Like, what if you need.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Help, well, then you call in and give an address,
right call in.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You can't call in if you needed help, you could
have called somebody else.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I got to rethink this. Y.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So wait, Sonny is a nickname though, Yeah, who gave
you that nickname?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I did you just chose it? Yeah? So, in like
twenty fifteen, I had a convenience store in Brampton.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You've okay, I don't. I mean, we haven't gotten into this,
but I feel like you have lived many lives already. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So I at a convenience store in Brampton and then
once again I didn't want everyone, so I just had
to come up with a nickname.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So I just came up with Sonny. And then that's
when I started telling everyone there. Yeah, basically everyone who
I met from that convenience store. It was like in
the Subduemunde Plaza, which is like ray Lawston A McLaughlin's like,
right at the heart of my God?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Is that in your college plaza? The Sheridan one.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, it's not far from there. So I had that
from I'm gonna say twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen ish, Okay, Wow, yeah,
and then the character just by chance was named Sonny.
So it worked out.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But okay, cold time because you I went through your
filmography and you almost always play Sonny.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And it's so funny because even in another one you're
playing a character whose name is such An's dad. Yes,
and your name is Sonny.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I know that just it was all by chance. That's
why as soon.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
There's no way that was all by chance, I swear
to God. So you had no input, like even in
Late Bloomer, you didn't thet they just did they look
at you and decide on the name or was it
already decided?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Already decided? So what happened is they they they put
out their request for auditions, and one of my friends
sent it to me, Darshan. He goes, hey, you should
audition for this. And then I went on to their
page and I wrote, you found your Sonny, stop your
search or something like that. I don't remember the exact verbiage, right,
And then Chaps, which is Ricky, hit me up and
(05:19):
he's like, YO, send in your audition tape. But I
was busy, so I didn't. I didn't send in my
audition tape. And the deadline passed. So then he messaged
me again. He goes, you didn't send in your tape, dude.
I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry. I was busy, and he goes, okay,
well can you send it in?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
So then I did the tape. I sent it in.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So you were sawed after, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
No, I don't think so. I think just because I
wrote that he wanted to maybe see like but I'd
never met him at this point. So then I send
in my audition tape and then the email back, and
then I did a zoom call and then coincidentally, it
was like a very low time in my life personally,
and it was a whole bunch of stuff going on
(06:00):
that I don't talk about because it's depressing. But all
of a sudden this shows up. I do the audition,
and then I get the role, and then this is
they gave me the role in like mid feb. And
we started shooting in like middle of March.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So I didn't really even have time to like like,
I didn't have time to absorb that this just happened.
And I didn't meet Ricky or just meet until I
went in for uh. We went in for a table read.
So there was like a week or two before we
actually started shooting when I first met him. But a
lot of people ask me, they go, well, were you
guys friends? I'm first of all, they're artists. They're not
(06:37):
going to give a role to someone because they're a friend.
They're going to find the person that they thought was
the best. So for me, initially, when I first got it,
I started getting this imposter syndrome thing and I get it,
starting nervous like why did I get it? Why did
I get it? Then one of my friends told me
he never says anything smart, and then this is like
the only time he's ever said anything smart, and he
(06:57):
basically said, dude, they picked you. Yeah, like there's a
reason they picked you, So just go there and be yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So I don't even think I act really.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, so you said. Which I see to be honest,
is that people tell you that you're pretty much playing
yourself in your role.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Everyone who watches it goes, dude, you're not even acting
like this is exactly what you do in real life.
All these like stupid things. That's like, because when you
get a script and you start reading it through and
then you're like, oh, what's the character motivation? All this
other stuff they tell you you're supposed to look at. Yeah,
I've never read a Sunny dialogue in season one or
two where I was like why would he do this time? Yeah,
(07:37):
every time I read I was like, yeah, this makes
complete sense. I would do this. I'd even go further
and do this and that as well. Right, So it's
like playing that character was literally at to just rewind
myself ten years ago and then just put it on
a little bit of steroids. So it was like kind
of meant to be. And then there's a lot of crossover,
so like we're involved in the perfume business, Sunny sprays
(08:00):
perfume around on the show and everything. And then when
just me found that out, he goes, what the hell.
I'm like, you didn't know that? He's like no, like
because the script's written beforehand. Yeah, so there was a
lot of stuff in the script. When he'd find out,
he'd be like what the hell, Like this is your
character does this in the show too?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I know, So it is that kind of meant to be.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So they made the right decision and that imposters your
friend was right basically.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No, but Here's the thing with acting with that script
is like and I told, uh, just meet this once
and they were like, no, you got to give yourself
a better credit here too, Right, I was like, that character,
I don't think it mattered who played it. I think
that characters has written to be funny and like that.
I think that character would have been appreciated regardless of
(08:41):
who played it. Well, isn't.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
No, I disagree with that because funny is hard to do,
and that character is very specific, Like the fact that
you looked at the script and you were like, I
understand why he did what he did. You need that
kind of background to play him properly because he is
very niche like that specific Brampton man, that' supposed to
like you need to have lived that to be able.
(09:03):
Not you don't necessarily have to need to live for
a while, But what I mean is that you need
to be able to put yourself in those shoes to
do it. And also, comedy is not easy. Comedy is
not yeah, and that is a talent in itself, and
like especially comedy involves a lot of intelligence.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that. And and honestly,
the people that I find really funny are the people
that do intelligent like dad jokes. So like if you
can take at dumb dad jokes, yeah, the same with me.
All my friends are like the worst, they're the best. Yeah,
but if you could take like a dumb dad joke
but kind of have enough intelligence behind it where they
know that, Okay, this guy is playing dumb, right, Yeah,
(09:40):
that's my favorite thing to do is play dumb.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
My point is is that not anybody, not just anybody
could have played sunny.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
But I mean, I'm not going to blow my own
horn here, but yeah, you're probably.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Right right because I watched your other things and like
I get what people are saying, because especially late Bloomer,
I think like when they meet you in person, I
think it's it's like you don't have a different voice, right, like,
and your mannerisms aren't that different, right.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The spin Around. There's a funny story about the spin around.
When they first show me in lay Bloomer and I'm
sitting there at the butt and then I spin around.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And it just sounds to.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Turn around, right. I don't have the core strength I
used to have, so I was trying to time it
where I was get up and turn around and I couldn't,
like I couldn't lift my body up right. So I'm
sitting there and they're like, okay, you know you got
to start turning around after this dialog. I was like cool,
but like my shoulders in the shots, so I couldn't
like struggle into it. So I just tried the spin.
And then then when I ended the spin, Ahmed who
(10:40):
plays Neil and just meet started laughing, so that the
cot but He's like, yo, keep that spin in there,
and I'm like, I only did it because I can't.
I don't have the core strength to get up. And
then all my friends afterwards were like that spin was
the funniest part of that scene.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I wish we could. I wish I brought it and
we could just replay all of that and rewind. Yeah
that's another thing. So you said you don't watch yourself?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No, why is that? People will walk up to me
and say, well, you know, we love your character, you
did a good job. But I feel like if I
start watching myself, I'm going to analyze what I do
or the mannerisms and everything, and then I'm start going, oh,
I didn't like that. I didn't like that, And then
all have that in my head the next time we
do a shot.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So it's kind of like if people are appreciating it already, Yeah,
why would I mess with it?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
A B.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's kind of weird to see yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, it's big time weird.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It messes with you. Even me, Like I make content
and I see myself all the time. I'm like, I,
this is too much.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And the voice you said, I don't sound like that. Yeah,
But the thing is you do sound like because I
was reading up on it. The reason why you sound
different to yourself is because your voice is reverbing through
your jaw and it's giving a.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Lot of sense. Yeah, But I also think that for
me with my voice, it's like I know, in certain
situations it goes higher and like I can't. I feel
like I don't have control over it, Like it's subconscious.
But some times I'm like, why am I talking so
high like I do not? Or why am I talking
so low? I sound like a man?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But see, the thing is, once you start getting in
your head like that, that's when you're in trouble. And
that's why I don't watch it, because if I started
watching it, I'd get in my own head and then
it just wouldn't happen.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So how do you then decide on what you want
to change or like improve on when you're doing Is
it just like as you do them and like the
director's notes and things like that.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, I just wait till like Peter just meeting them
tell me yeah. And then sometimes like they'll say, hey,
let's try it again, but do it this way or
do it that way. Yeah, So I just take their
feedback and do it. And then once they're happy with
the shot, I know it's and I'll add a line
here and there when I can. And sometimes they work,
sometimes they don't. Like shooting that show is one of
those things where right from the moment you get there
(12:47):
and for me, I think I thought all TV was
this way. I'm like, this is the greatest thing in
the world. And then a lot of people on set
are like, no, dude, it's just like the team is
that good?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
A lot of shows aren't like this. Yeah, but like
from the moment you get there, from the person who
greets you to the person who like the makeup. People,
like every single person I start naming names will be
here all day. But like everyone you deal with there
is just so good. Yeah, like that you feel like
it doesn't feel like work. So my whole life, I've
(13:16):
owned businesses, I've had a job, even when it's my
own business. I've clock watched.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I just thought, that's what you do when you're working.
You look at Okay, I got an hour left, I
got an hour left right. If I go on set,
I could be there eight nine hours. And then when
they're like, okay, it's a wrap, it's a wrap for you,
I'm like, what already? What? I don't even know what
time it is.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
That's really cool, though, to be able to have a
job like that and to be able to get to
that point in your life where you're like I don't
even feel the time pass.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, it's like it just sometimes they get in trouble
because my SHOT's done and they're supposed to go back
to your trader because they're trying to like organize everything
for the next shot. Yeah, and I'll just stay on set. Yeah,
and I'll just watch the next shot. I like seeing
them set up. I like seeing everything happening. I'll stand
behind the monitor. Yeah, I'll bother the dop like Gale's
(14:02):
the best, but I'll bother her. I'll bother everybody. And
then one time this season when it was the last
day I shoot, they couldn't find me, and then they
started calling me, and I'm supposed to leave for my shot.
I forgot to check the time, and I had my
phone on silent because I'm on set. And then all
of a sudden I checked my phone. I have like
eight missed calls out texts from like production, where are you?
(14:24):
This isn't cool, dude, Like We're trying to find you
at the trailer, and I was like, oh crap, run out.
I just I love being on set period.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Like, if I could just stay there all day for
twelve hours, I would do it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You know what's really funny. I like the story of
your premiere, the premiere story that you had that was hilarious.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So I forgot that it was the premiere that day,
just because I forget sometimes what day of the week
it is. And I was walking around with a hoodie
on in my jeans, and then I got a text saying, Hey,
so the premiere is at this time, and then I
just so I showed up in.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
My hoodie and g which is so perfect for your hair.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
That's what just met said. The second he saw me,
he looked me up and down and and my shirt.
My hoodie said cream on it, but instead of cashrules
everything around me was with a K and it said
gallio U rules everything around me. That was my hoodie
and I sort of got I was wearing black. Kid
didn't know I was wearing black jeans with a glug
(15:23):
rules everything around me hoodie And a second I walked
and just just looked me up and down. He's like, yeah, this,
this is told me something sunny you would wear. I
was like, yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Why do you wind up being surprised when people are like,
you're just playing yourself?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I don't know, but it was funny. Actually, the highlight
of that for me was meeting Raf Safara, and I
met him once or twice more since somebody like that's
my favorite singer by.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Far, because his song was in like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I met him there, and then when he had his
concert here, I got to talk to him a bit
at the after party. Two nicest dude, and he's like
a great kala car And I feel like I feel
like he doesn't get the respect he deserves because he's
not jock I don't even.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Know he wasn't Jopp.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Like this, And I am fucking.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I am nucking in the left connect that.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I am fu.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
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Speaker 5 (16:45):
Is on there under the door, Sit down there, love.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
But I think our community does that stupidness where he's like,
I think right now, pound for pound, the best ban
Jubby singer out there period.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I mean debatable. I have my opinions, but I like, Roy,
do you like the best Bunjumbi singer like alive out there?
Like making music right now?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You could say it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I take this so seriously. This is like my reputation
is on the line.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You don't have to say the best. You can say
one of the best.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I would like I have a top five and I'm
going to say this name because I think that he's
a good writer and he understands how to make hits.
That doesn't mean that music necessarily has a crazy amount
of substance.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
What you're about to say, Carnadlo, Yeah, yeah, I'll.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Give you that, right. He's it's a kind of undeniable.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah. I don't think there's ever been a Cardinode last song,
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Like it's hard to he's a machine. And I think
Shub is really good. Yeah, I think Shobb's really good.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Good.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, and I think there is really good. You know
you've heard.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It in probably I guess I'm not good with names.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, you might.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
For me, i'd say I'll give you card the jeets
in there.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
The jets without without saying yeah, okay, oh man.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It is hard to try to round it off because
there's so many people that I want to put in
in the fifth position.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So wait, this is an order. Yeah, oh, mine was
not an order. Okay. So the Late Bloomers set is
very different from all the other sets that you've been on, right,
because I look through your filmography and that was probably
like the first action like larger production that you would.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Say, yeah, the first real like quote unquote real production
I've been a part of. Everything else was like shoestring budget.
We have a data shoot, Yeah, we're doing it in
this person's house and that. But this is the first
set I've been on where like they're constructing things. Yeah,
So like everything's built on set and then you walk
them through a door and all of a sudden you're
in a house like blows your mind and like everything
(19:05):
in there, Like I would constantly be like, my mind's blown,
Holy crap, Holy crap, And then something else would happen.
I'd be like, that's amazing. How do they do that?
And then on top of that, I was kind of
fan boing over just me because I watched his video
right like I did. Yeah, I was like probably one
of the older guys watching his videos, but I'm still
dying when they came out. And then that's when I
was like, he's got a show. I'm like, I'm my
(19:27):
audition for this, and I think I said this during
my audition. Whether I get it or not, cool, but
I'm just glad he's back and I'm gonna look forward
to watching the show. Yeah, and to get to be
a part of it was just and like all the
other actors too, like Swenya, the one who plays Chippy
Ashley the Parents will Uncle scares me?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Does he play the dad?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, nicest man in the world. I've had conversations and everything.
It's just something like.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Every time I round, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I think that's why because he has such a thortive
voice that every time I'd like go around him, I
get like nervous. I have no idea why.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I thought he would bring more comfort to.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Like he does.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
He does, but it's just it.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's a dad comfort. It's a scary comfort.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, it's like I don't know what to like. But
every time he's there, I'm like, I usually say whatever
I want on set, but every time he's there, I like,
watch my mouth, I more well behaved. Like he scares
me for some reason.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That's the secret.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
He's the nicest guy.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, if they need help, they need to bring him
straight up.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
But like all the actors there that we all get
along well. Yeah, Like it was just it's hard to
put into words how it felt shooting both the seasons.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
In comparison to the other work that you've done, What
do you feel like was one thing you actually miss?
Is there anything I actually mess about? All our productions,
the smaller production there is a certain kind of like
camaraderie and having a smaller production and like, and you know,
you have to do everything together and you guys are
always problem solving and you kind of bond in that way.
But also I noticed that you have writer credits and
(21:04):
you have production credits on the others, so you have
a little bit more influence on what direction story goes.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, that's probably something, But I don't know if I
missed that. That was a lot of responsibility, you know
what I mean, Like like people would come up to
you ask your questions, like, I don't know wt someone else?
You know, why do you ask me? I don't know.
I'm just trying to do this shot. Yeah, you know
what I mean. But yeah, I think it's one of
those things where I loved writing. I'm not good at
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writing in script format. Okay, so even where I have
writing credits, I didn't actually type any of that out.
I just sit there while everyone else is writing, and like, say, hey,
maybe the guy says this.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You're good at just you know, directing giving Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
At Late Bloomer, I think they give you a lot
of like just me gives you creative control. Okay, So
if there's a line that I want to add somewhere,
I'll tell them, yeah, hey, I'm not add this, and
I'm like, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
What about like improvit?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah we've done that.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah he allows that. So we'll have our clean take
and then he'll be like, Okay, this one just let's
just do whatever guys.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, and we do.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
That, so you have that creative control there. I do
maybe miss the fact that it's like it's just really
big and you get lost a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And like mentally or physically lost everywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, Like sometimes you're walking around and then you're like
too busy looking at everything, and then you don't remember
where you're supposed to be at that moment. I get
lost a lot. I see, Yeah, they would. I remember
when I'd leave said like there would be people that'd
be like, Yo, five minutes, you better be back here.
We're going to find that because I would just wander
off and then remember that, Oh my god, we're shooting.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, you're like, I'm actually at work.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, because it doesn't feel like it. But I think
the scale of it makes it feel a little daunting
compared to a small project, whereas a smaller project it's
such a small scale. But at the same time, now
because I'm union, I can't really do the small projects
anymore because it's not unionized.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Ah right.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So there's a couple of things that happened at like
during late bloomer and after my friends were like, hey,
we should do this we should do that, and they're like,
I don't think I can. And then I started looking
into it and you can't get exception. But also right now,
I think I'm just going to kind of stick to
late Bloomer. I retired recently from my job in December,
so I'm going to focus a lot more on acting. Okay,
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but I have to get an agent first, because apparently
that's important.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You actually worked in the industry, or you worked in
a different industry, like a completely different industry. So I
don't think this is unique. And I was telling my
friend this while we were driving here. Every South Asian
creative has a odd, weird journey to finding their way
to whatever their creative like pieces or whatever whatever they
(23:49):
want to work on. So tell me about your creative journey.
How did it so?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
With me?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It all started when I was five. No, it is true.
I remember when I was five. The only thing I'd
watch on TV at that point was cartoons, right, and
then my dad rented a VCR like those video recorders. Shit,
I pople don't know what a VCR.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I can't think I'm younger than I am.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Okay, he rented a VCR. We still live in Calgary
and he rented three movies. I think one of them
was Gonna Sae, So this was like nineteen eighty two
ish okay, and he put them on. I'd never seen
an indie movie before, and all of a sudden, the
movie started and I'm like, what is this? Like the colors,
that the over the top everything with songs, like I
was like, I didn't really fully understand it, yeah, but
(24:34):
I was like so drawn to it. And then after that,
every weekend he would rent a VCR in three movies
and I would just sit there and watch them all
and I started getting into like Hindi movies, and then
that was my start, and they were so over the top.
Like then I watched a Hollywood movie once and I'm
like this sucks, Like where does the songs. My Dad's
like there's no songs of this, Like it's stupid, and
(24:56):
the colors aren't vibrant and like they're serious, like you
know the other movie somebody jumped off a roof and
kicked someone in the head, Like that was way more fun.
So then me and my sister started my younger sister
we started like making scripts. Oh and our first one
we did with this movie called Yeah, dude, I have
no idea what it was about. Yeah, it was about nothing, like.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
We just milk.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, So we kind of wrote loosely, wrote this script
in our head and then we would act out scenes
and like we were both like even though she was
a girl, we were brothers in that movie. She was
a cop and I was just like it was like
a very Indianish movie, right, yeah, and we would have
fun and like just act. I think it was escapism
because it was a tough childhood, so we would kind
(25:42):
of create our own little alternative reality. So that kind
of stayed, and then the love for movie stayed. When
it came time to get into university. Of course, it's
like you can't go home and say I'm gonna do film.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah right, not in a brown household, no, especially at
the time that you that is what like early nineties.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah. And then also like my dad had passed away,
so that like my mom was kind of relying on
me to start making money. And then it's like, yo,
by the way, mom, I'm going to become an actor.
He would have here the oldest time, right, I'm the
only son, and then I have three sisters. So then
I did university, graduated, started working, and then like seven
or eight years in, I met up with this guy,
Herman Durfol and I'm ron, I'm sorry. They're the guys
(26:24):
who've done the movies with me, so I met them
on Facebook. I think I just made like this film
group of who's interested in film, and these guys are like, oh,
we're writers, and I'm like, well, I have some ideas.
And then then we started meeting at my house, we
started writing, so there was always something there for me
to do. That kind of satisfied that part of it.
And even if if Late Bloomer never happened, I would
(26:46):
still probably keep doing little things like that, especially now
that I have the time. Just started right there with
those Hindi movies, and I was like, yo, I want
to be involved in this. Like this feels like it's amazing,
and it's like you can watch something on screen that's
rehearsed and scripted it can still like pull all these
feelings and emotions out of you right exactly, so like
it just feels real.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And then from then onwards, like like I said, even
like Hollywood movies, yeah I watch them, Yeah, but Bollywood's
my favorite, is it yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
So do you count like Punjabi movies as Bollywood?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
No moves are their own thing. But I love them too.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Okay, Okay, I want.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
To do a movie with boom On. That's my dream project.
I love. Yeah. If anyone ever says like once their
dream project, I have two. I want to do a
movie with Booman. I don't care if I'm in there
for one scene. Yeah, And I want to get killed
by John Wick.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Okay, but I.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Don't think John Wick's doing movies. I don't think they're
gonna do another one anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I think those are great dream projects.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, like just killed by him. I don't even want
a dialogue, Like, I want to just walk up to
him and then have them just murder me free, just.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Like you don't even want your screen time.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Really, you just know he kills me, Yeah, kills you
with pencil on the neck and be like, mom, I
made it. Look at that anam Reeves just killed me.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh my god. Not necessary, lady, Nasa, lady, it is not.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
It is.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Don't get up to job.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
You're listening to Ruckus Avenue radio.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
They're not that, I mean to me to John.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
They're not paying, they're not paying. So I really relate
to that you saying that, like you would be doing
it no matter what, because I feel like I'm the
same way, Like I have a perfectly stable career and
my mom's like, why why are you doing this in
(29:10):
a bung And I'm just like, mom, like, I don't know.
I can't stop it. Just have to the free time
I have, that's what I want to be doing. I'm
not getting paid for it, and I'm doing it. And
if I'm getting paid for it, I'd still be doing it,
you know, Like.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I didn't get paid for it in Tall Bloomer, and
I was everything else I was doing. I was paying
out a pocket to do it. But it's like one
of those things where like once you have that gita,
I want to say, for lack of a better term, no,
that's great, you have to feed that gita occasionally or
else you start feeling like you're useless.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like your soul needs to be fed.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, that's actually a really good way of putting it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
But I feel like that's why I like the name
is Jigney. Jigney in Sufi poetry, it means like a
wandering soul, like like the spirit of life and they're
just like going through life and like and that's what
I felt like I really resonated with, was that that
whole spirit of just like, no matter what I'm doing,
I'm going to be doing this because I am drawn
(30:07):
to it. I'm always pulled to it, So I might
as well just accept that this I'm going to be
doing this.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And that's the thing a lot of people give up
when they don't see anything Like it's like, well, dude,
you have to do it because you love doing it, Yeah,
and then things will happen. Yes, if you're doing it
to get popular, or if you're doing it because you
want to make a lot of money and stuff, like,
your chances are going to be low.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
If you just keep doing it and you keep doing
it for a long time, eventually something happens.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, because the authenticity it comes through, Like people can
feel that.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, and I think the universe starts conspiring and saying, Okay,
you know what, this guy he's not stopping, Let's throw
him a bone. You know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
That was like flimmer your bone.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, I think so, because I'm telling you it was
like I was at the lowest point of my life.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I remember that morning. When I got up, I was like,
I'm not going to work. I'm calling in sick today. Yeah,
you know, And I was just pissed off for some reason.
And I went to the washroom and I checked my phone.
I checked my emails and it was the offer from them,
and I didn't even read it. I just kind of said, okay, yeah,
I'm doing it. By I didn't read how much I
was getting paid. Nothing. I was like, okay, I need this,
(31:13):
I need to do this. I told us meet that
too once. I was like, yo, it's like it almost
saved me mentally really yeah, Like physically would have still
been around, but mentally it saved me.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But mentally is what matters. Who cares physically here? If
you're not mentally here, that's.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
What if you're not mentally here, physically here.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Literally, I read a comment where you said that you
prefer to do serious scrolls over comedy.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
So that's something that I feel like people would find
surprising about you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
See. See.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
The thing is, and I've said this before and people
are like, yeah, but because even the short film I did,
the Sun, when people watch that, they're like dude, that
wasn't funny at all. Yeah, I'm like, it's not a comedy.
I know it's funny, right, Yeah. So but they're like,
we thought when you told us you made a short film,
we thought it was gonna be funny. Yeah, And I'm like,
but then that doesn't feel like acting to.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Me because you're playing yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yes, kind of right, Like, so like when I'm in
a serious role, like in Son, I play alcoholic that
abuses his wife and his kid. Yeah, that's acting. I
don't have a wife, I don't have a kid. Yeah,
and if I did, I probably wouldn't abuse him. But
but like that's acting, Like that felt like acting, right,
(32:25):
So that's why I prefer serious roles. But now when
I've after season two of Late Bloomer, it's kind of
starting to hit that even though it's comedy, this character
is a different person, Like it's not me, and I
still get to act as this character. Right, So I
don't know if I still have that same viewpoint. But
(32:46):
there was a time when I was like, yeah, I
don't want to do comedy, man, it's in comedy is hard.
It's hard to make people laugh, Like laughing is one
of those things where like there's no joke out there
that's universally considered funny.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I feel like farting is a universally funny joke.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, I love farting, right, but then I locked it
or the joke, the whole thing, but I was I
was lack close in tolerant. Yeah, so it's true story
nowhere this is going. Yeah, so I found out around
a year ago because I started cutting it out and
then I started losing weight after I started cutting it out,
and then I realized, like I don't fart as much
(33:19):
as I used to anymore, which kind of sucks because
like removing a superpower. But also it turns out I
wasn't even chubby. I was just bloated for my whole life.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Darry is very bloating.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, it's very bad for you. And then one of
my best friends is vegan. He owns a vegan restaurant too.
So the more and more I'm starting to get towards it.
So I've cut out dairy completely.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I think we know the restaurant, Hawker. Yeah, we love Hawker.
Oh no way, yeah yeah, we just went like December January,
we just went way.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Let me know next time that's Darshan's restaurant, is it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
We literally touched Almo's mom there because she loves cooking
and also so we would we all love food, and
we just sat there and we just ate everything and
we're like, okay, so what did they put in here?
And we're just like trying to figure out what they
put way they do it.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
It's him and this guy Jeff, Like it's crazy. Yeah,
it does a lot of the dishes, but they they've
got new dishes that they just started a week ago.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh okay, yeah, so we need to go back.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah the next time you go, let me know. Okay,
and then all all like, get you guys a resume
in there.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
You're making a restaurant.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, we're there, like I'm there probably once or twice
a week. We're walking around because we live close to
there too. It's like a twenty minute walk, yeah, which
is like a decent walk, but.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
For a Toronto person, that's not bad. Twenty minutes is
like fun.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'll do some days. I do like twenty five thousand steps.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
When I used to live downtown, I have my dog.
It's just me and him. We're just hanging out. We're
walking around everywhere and I get like ten errands done, yeah,
and I get my steps.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
In yeah, and it's healthy. Yeah, you're not downtown anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
No, not back back in Brampton, back in the ends.
What part of Brampton by Georgetown?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Okay? Yeah, I used to be at Miss Saga Road
and over I was on Ashby Field Road stop really
thirty five I was there from I bought that house
a new in two thousand and seven and I moved
out in twenty sixteen or twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Wow, look at you.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, So that's my Brampton, like when I when people
see Branton era, So that's where I draw a lot
of sunny stuff on the Brampton ara. But I remember
the first time I moved to Brampton. I was talking
to people. It's like they were singing.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
What do you mean singing?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Like when you talk to someone from Brampton, you'd be like, yo, bro,
what's going to be?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Like?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yo, what are you saying? You'd be like, what just happened?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
She's dying.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Though?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Right, Like they'd be like, yo, dog, what are you saying?
And you'd be like huh. And then because I was
my younger cousins that lived there at the time, and
I'd be like, dude, then I made like a lot
of like a lot of students became my friend when
I honed the convenience store. And then now people are
like turning on them, right, And yeah, we kind of
(35:59):
dressed that situation in season two. But what pisses me
off the most is, Okay, so you have all these
students here. I'm going a bit of a rant here, Sorry,
go off. They're drinking, they're partying there. Guess what can
I swear?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah? I mean I might bleep it out, but go off.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, so they're partying, they're drinking, and they're a university
in college. That's what you do at that age. That's
what we did at that age. I remember doing in
York University Student Center and all the brown guys I
was with were all Canadian born.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Right, and now those same guys are like students. I'm like, dude,
you don't remember what we used to do. The only
difference is we could keep it on campus because there
were spots to live on campus. So now the reason
why people are getting all bent out of shape the
students are doing what they're supposed to do. They're enjoying themselves,
they're partying. This is the These are the years you
do that, and then you're going to work for the
rest of your life. If anything, they work harder than
(36:51):
the kids that were born here work.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, they work and party.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Exact same time exactly. And then I'm like, oh, they're driving,
that's their own money, exactly. They can do whatever they want.
And then no one is saying anything to the government
that allowed that situation to happen. First of all, with
a bunch of them coming in a b the fact
that the colleges that are charging exorbitant fees are not
(37:17):
building any places on residences for these students. So what
ends up happening The students moved to the residential neighborhood
that's closest to the college. Now they're going to party
and have fun because they're students. And now the people
that live in that area that have to go to
work in the next morning are like But no one
is pointing a finger at like shared in college and saying, hey,
there's an acreage of empty land here. You're charging these
(37:40):
kids fourteen fifteen grand a year. Why haven't you built
any residence apartment?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I swear they charged way more than fourteen or whatever.
It is no like international students especially like double what
we like.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And then it's like Conastoga College, same thing in Kitchener.
You guys have all this land, they've benefited probably the
most from international students, and they have the east amount
of residence spaces available. Yeah so like and then where's
our government forcing these colleges that have made hundreds of
millions of dollars off these students to say, Hey, you've
made all this money, you can let international students. Great,
(38:12):
it's good revenue for you. But for every international student
you let in thirty percent, you need to have residence
spaces for those students because where are they going to live?
And then they live in the residential neighborhoods and when
they party on Thursday Friday night, everyone gets mad at them.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
But you're right because any other university like residential area
is taken over by the students, like if you go
to like Ottawau, or you go to any other like
campus here, like all the residential houses are frat houses
or yeah, the only difference is these are brown people.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, so people don't like seeing us doing that. But
like if you like go to the same neighborhood and
you saw a bunch of now non brown people partying everyone,
they're university kids. Let them have a good time.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
And then the worst part is it is our community
is the worst.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
We're the worst protecting ourselves.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah. Yeah, like we like, forget everyone else looking at
us with hate. We look at us with hate. Like
the ones who came here and were born here, look
at them like they're less of Yeah, and it's like, dude, no,
they're not. Like some of the hardest working, nicest people
I've ever met are international students. Our four or five
percent of them problem. Yeah, are four or five percent
of the people that live here a problem? Yeah? Yeah,
(39:26):
Like it's just like a regular ratios dude, there's not
like a huge problem coming from them.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah. I think, like the only other thing is that
there's just cultural differences.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, and that a while.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, And that's normal with any immigration population that moves anywhere,
Like look at New York, look at like the when
the Italians first came, Like it happens everywhere.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
My mom has stories about my uncles and my dad
and then when they first got here and the stupid
shit they used to do because culturally they didn't know
that this wasn't accepted that But the difference was back
in those days, the community would tell you that like
where's and I've always wanted to be a part something
like this, But where's us with our outreach to sit
with them and say, hey, guys, this is what's culturally
acceptable here. This is kind of frowned upon. Nobody's telling
(40:08):
them that they don't have parents here.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Who you're listening to?
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Rock us Avenue Radio, the world's most listen to South
Asian radio and podcast network
Welcome to Jickney, Sonny or Satchein right. Yeah, I like
Soney and you almost always play Sonny.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I know everyone who watches it goes, dude, you're not
even acting like this is exactly what you do in
real life. No one should know your real government name.
We need our own slur. But yo, what she just die?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
So you worked in the industry twenty five years? Yeah,
that's insane.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It almost saved me mentally that I was at the
lowest point of my life.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I remember that morning when I got up, I was like,
I'm not going to work. I'm calling in sick today.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
You finished one career and you're you're doing another one.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I know.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I don't think she realized how big it was.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
She's like.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Many couple of no, I can't, I can't talk about that.
I don't want because I'm not giving away anything about
the show at all.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I feel like we got one little spoiler.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Which one Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
W Hi everyone, and welcome to Jickney with Pribleen. I'm
Forbleen and I am so excited for this episode. I
got the chance to sit down with such a mushy
also known as Sonny Funny enough, he also plays Sonny
on the show Late Bloomer. Guys, I had so much
fun filming this episode. Sunny is the funniest, most entertaining
(01:22):
person ever. Like I had my friend helping me behind
the scenes and she was dying trying not to laugh
so the mike wouldn't pick it up. He also has
so much dimension. He's lived like so many lives already,
so he had a lot of great advice to give.
We talked about his creative journey, his approach to acting,
life on set, and so much more, including season two
of Late Bloomer, which is streaming now on Pray TV,
(01:44):
So make sure you check that out. But you're in
for a treat, So get comfortable, grab a snack, just
you know, don't choke, and let's get into the episode.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
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Speaker 1 (02:05):
I'm so excited to do this. Why I feel like
there's so much that people don't know about you.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah that's on purpose.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah I guess it's by design. But now we get
to expose you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Welcome to Jickney, Sonny or Satchein right, Yeah, I like Sonny.
You like Sonny? Yeah, okay, okay, but is it pronounced
satchin or such a such a such an?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah? Okay, that's not even my real name either.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
What is your real name?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I don't. I don't give out my government. No one
my real name. No one's ever called me by so
when I was born, my muscie wanted to name me
such an. Okay, and my dad, for some reason, I
don't know, if he had something against her, he decided
to pick a different name. Yeah, but nobody ever called
me that name that he picked, Like, everyone would just
call me such an.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You have like so many what are they called aliases? Yeah,
you have so many alias. You have to in this industry,
in this business, in life.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
In general, you should have a bunch. No one should
know your real government name. Yeah, and you should not
have your real real address on your driver's license. Really,
why are you going to tell the government where you
go to sleep?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
What are they going to do if they know that?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You just never know? What if you get in trouble
one day and they're looking for you, now they know
exactly where to find you.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Well, what if you are in trouble and you need
to be found, Like, what if you need.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Help, well, then you call in and give an address,
right call in.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You can't call in if you needed help, you could
have called somebody else.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I got to rethink this. Y.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So wait, Sonny is a nickname though, Yeah, who gave
you that nickname?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I did you just chose it? Yeah? So, in like
twenty fifteen, I had a convenience store in Brampton.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
You've okay, I don't. I mean, we haven't gotten into this,
but I feel like you have lived many lives already. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So I at a convenience store in Brampton and then
once again I didn't want everyone, so I just had
to come up with a nickname.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
So I just came up with Sonny. And then that's
when I started telling everyone there. Yeah, basically everyone who
I met from that convenience store. It was like in
the Subduemunde Plaza, which is like ray Lawston A McLaughlin's like,
right at the heart of my God?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Is that in your college plaza? The Sheridan one.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, it's not far from there. So I had that
from I'm gonna say twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen ish, Okay, Wow, yeah,
and then the character just by chance was named Sonny.
So it worked out.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But okay, cold time because you I went through your
filmography and you almost always play Sonny.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And it's so funny because even in another one you're
playing a character whose name is such An's dad. Yes,
and your name is Sonny.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I know that just it was all by chance. That's
why as soon.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
There's no way that was all by chance, I swear
to God. So you had no input, like even in
Late Bloomer, you didn't thet they just did they look
at you and decide on the name or was it
already decided?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Already decided? So what happened is they they they put
out their request for auditions, and one of my friends
sent it to me, Darshan. He goes, hey, you should
audition for this. And then I went on to their
page and I wrote, you found your Sonny, stop your
search or something like that. I don't remember the exact verbiage, right,
And then Chaps, which is Ricky, hit me up and
(05:19):
he's like, YO, send in your audition tape. But I
was busy, so I didn't. I didn't send in my
audition tape. And the deadline passed. So then he messaged
me again. He goes, you didn't send in your tape, dude.
I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry. I was busy, and he goes, okay,
well can you send it in?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
So then I did the tape. I sent it in.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So you were sawed after, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
No, I don't think so. I think just because I
wrote that he wanted to maybe see like but I'd
never met him at this point. So then I send
in my audition tape and then the email back, and
then I did a zoom call and then coincidentally, it
was like a very low time in my life personally,
and it was a whole bunch of stuff going on
(06:00):
that I don't talk about because it's depressing. But all
of a sudden this shows up. I do the audition,
and then I get the role, and then this is
they gave me the role in like mid feb. And
we started shooting in like middle of March.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Oh wow.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So I didn't really even have time to like like,
I didn't have time to absorb that this just happened.
And I didn't meet Ricky or just meet until I
went in for uh. We went in for a table read.
So there was like a week or two before we
actually started shooting when I first met him. But a
lot of people ask me, they go, well, were you
guys friends? I'm first of all, they're artists. They're not
(06:37):
going to give a role to someone because they're a friend.
They're going to find the person that they thought was
the best. So for me, initially, when I first got it,
I started getting this imposter syndrome thing and I get it,
starting nervous like why did I get it? Why did
I get it? Then one of my friends told me
he never says anything smart, and then this is like
the only time he's ever said anything smart, and he
(06:57):
basically said, dude, they picked you. Yeah, like there's a
reason they picked you, So just go there and be yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So I don't even think I act really.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Well, so you said. Which I see to be honest,
is that people tell you that you're pretty much playing
yourself in your role.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Everyone who watches it goes, dude, you're not even acting
like this is exactly what you do in real life.
All these like stupid things. That's like, because when you
get a script and you start reading it through and
then you're like, oh, what's the character motivation? All this
other stuff they tell you you're supposed to look at. Yeah,
I've never read a Sunny dialogue in season one or
two where I was like why would he do this time? Yeah,
(07:37):
every time I read I was like, yeah, this makes
complete sense. I would do this. I'd even go further
and do this and that as well. Right, So it's
like playing that character was literally at to just rewind
myself ten years ago and then just put it on
a little bit of steroids. So it was like kind
of meant to be. And then there's a lot of crossover,
so like we're involved in the perfume business, Sunny sprays
(08:00):
perfume around on the show and everything. And then when
just me found that out, he goes, what the hell.
I'm like, you didn't know that? He's like no, like
because the script's written beforehand. Yeah, so there was a
lot of stuff in the script. When he'd find out,
he'd be like what the hell, Like this is your
character does this in the show too?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I know, So it is that kind of meant to be.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
So they made the right decision and that imposters your
friend was right basically.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
No, but Here's the thing with acting with that script
is like and I told, uh, just meet this once
and they were like, no, you got to give yourself
a better credit here too, Right, I was like, that character,
I don't think it mattered who played it. I think
that characters has written to be funny and like that.
I think that character would have been appreciated regardless of
(08:41):
who played it. Well, isn't.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
No, I disagree with that because funny is hard to do,
and that character is very specific, Like the fact that
you looked at the script and you were like, I
understand why he did what he did. You need that
kind of background to play him properly because he is
very niche like that specific Brampton man, that' supposed to
like you need to have lived that to be able.
(09:03):
Not you don't necessarily have to need to live for
a while, But what I mean is that you need
to be able to put yourself in those shoes to
do it. And also, comedy is not easy. Comedy is
not yeah, and that is a talent in itself, and
like especially comedy involves a lot of intelligence.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that. And and honestly,
the people that I find really funny are the people
that do intelligent like dad jokes. So like if you
can take at dumb dad jokes, yeah, the same with me.
All my friends are like the worst, they're the best. Yeah,
but if you could take like a dumb dad joke
but kind of have enough intelligence behind it where they
know that, Okay, this guy is playing dumb, right, Yeah,
(09:40):
that's my favorite thing to do is play dumb.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
My point is is that not anybody, not just anybody
could have played sunny.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
But I mean, I'm not going to blow my own
horn here, but yeah, you're probably.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Right right because I watched your other things and like
I get what people are saying, because especially late Bloomer,
I think like when they meet you in person, I
think it's it's like you don't have a different voice, right, like,
and your mannerisms aren't that different, right.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
The spin Around. There's a funny story about the spin around.
When they first show me in lay Bloomer and I'm
sitting there at the butt and then I spin around.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And it just sounds to.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Turn around, right. I don't have the core strength I
used to have, so I was trying to time it
where I was get up and turn around and I couldn't,
like I couldn't lift my body up right. So I'm
sitting there and they're like, okay, you know you got
to start turning around after this dialog. I was like cool,
but like my shoulders in the shots, so I couldn't
like struggle into it. So I just tried the spin.
And then then when I ended the spin, Ahmed who
(10:40):
plays Neil and just meet started laughing, so that the
cot but He's like, yo, keep that spin in there,
and I'm like, I only did it because I can't.
I don't have the core strength to get up. And
then all my friends afterwards were like that spin was
the funniest part of that scene.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I wish we could. I wish I brought it and
we could just replay all of that and rewind. Yeah
that's another thing. So you said you don't watch yourself?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
No, why is that? People will walk up to me
and say, well, you know, we love your character, you
did a good job. But I feel like if I
start watching myself, I'm going to analyze what I do
or the mannerisms and everything, and then I'm start going, oh,
I didn't like that. I didn't like that, And then
all have that in my head the next time we
do a shot.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So it's kind of like if people are appreciating it already, Yeah,
why would I mess with it?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
A B.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's kind of weird to see yourself.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, it's big time weird.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It messes with you. Even me, Like I make content
and I see myself all the time. I'm like, I,
this is too much.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And the voice you said, I don't sound like that. Yeah,
But the thing is you do sound like because I
was reading up on it. The reason why you sound
different to yourself is because your voice is reverbing through
your jaw and it's giving a.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Lot of sense. Yeah, But I also think that for
me with my voice, it's like I know, in certain
situations it goes higher and like I can't. I feel
like I don't have control over it, Like it's subconscious.
But some times I'm like, why am I talking so
high like I do not? Or why am I talking
so low? I sound like a man?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
But see, the thing is, once you start getting in
your head like that, that's when you're in trouble. And
that's why I don't watch it, because if I started
watching it, I'd get in my own head and then
it just wouldn't happen.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So how do you then decide on what you want
to change or like improve on when you're doing Is
it just like as you do them and like the
director's notes and things like that.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, I just wait till like Peter just meeting them
tell me yeah. And then sometimes like they'll say, hey,
let's try it again, but do it this way or
do it that way. Yeah, So I just take their
feedback and do it. And then once they're happy with
the shot, I know it's and I'll add a line
here and there when I can. And sometimes they work,
sometimes they don't. Like shooting that show is one of
those things where right from the moment you get there
(12:47):
and for me, I think I thought all TV was
this way. I'm like, this is the greatest thing in
the world. And then a lot of people on set
are like, no, dude, it's just like the team is
that good?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
A lot of shows aren't like this. Yeah, but like
from the moment you get there, from the person who
greets you to the person who like the makeup. People,
like every single person I start naming names will be
here all day. But like everyone you deal with there
is just so good. Yeah, like that you feel like
it doesn't feel like work. So my whole life, I've
(13:16):
owned businesses, I've had a job, even when it's my
own business. I've clock watched.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I just thought, that's what you do when you're working.
You look at Okay, I got an hour left, I
got an hour left right. If I go on set,
I could be there eight nine hours. And then when
they're like, okay, it's a wrap, it's a wrap for you,
I'm like, what already? What? I don't even know what
time it is.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
That's really cool, though, to be able to have a
job like that and to be able to get to
that point in your life where you're like I don't
even feel the time pass.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, it's like it just sometimes they get in trouble
because my SHOT's done and they're supposed to go back
to your trader because they're trying to like organize everything
for the next shot. Yeah, and I'll just stay on set. Yeah,
and I'll just watch the next shot. I like seeing
them set up. I like seeing everything happening. I'll stand
behind the monitor. Yeah, I'll bother the dop like Gale's
(14:02):
the best, but I'll bother her. I'll bother everybody. And
then one time this season when it was the last
day I shoot, they couldn't find me, and then they
started calling me, and I'm supposed to leave for my shot.
I forgot to check the time, and I had my
phone on silent because I'm on set. And then all
of a sudden I checked my phone. I have like
eight missed calls out texts from like production, where are you?
(14:24):
This isn't cool, dude, Like We're trying to find you
at the trailer, and I was like, oh crap, run out.
I just I love being on set period.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Like, if I could just stay there all day for
twelve hours, I would do it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You know what's really funny. I like the story of
your premiere, the premiere story that you had that was hilarious.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
So I forgot that it was the premiere that day,
just because I forget sometimes what day of the week
it is. And I was walking around with a hoodie
on in my jeans, and then I got a text saying, Hey,
so the premiere is at this time, and then I
just so I showed up in.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
My hoodie and g which is so perfect for your hair.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
That's what just met said. The second he saw me,
he looked me up and down and and my shirt.
My hoodie said cream on it, but instead of cashrules
everything around me was with a K and it said
gallio U rules everything around me. That was my hoodie
and I sort of got I was wearing black. Kid
didn't know I was wearing black jeans with a glug
(15:23):
rules everything around me hoodie And a second I walked
and just just looked me up and down. He's like, yeah, this,
this is told me something sunny you would wear. I
was like, yeah, So.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Why do you wind up being surprised when people are like,
you're just playing yourself?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I don't know, but it was funny. Actually, the highlight
of that for me was meeting Raf Safara, and I
met him once or twice more since somebody like that's
my favorite singer by.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Far, because his song was in like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I met him there, and then when he had his
concert here, I got to talk to him a bit
at the after party. Two nicest dude, and he's like
a great kala car And I feel like I feel
like he doesn't get the respect he deserves because he's
not jock I don't even.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Know he wasn't Jopp.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Like this, And I am fucking.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I am nucking in the left connect that.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I am fu.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
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Speaker 5 (16:45):
Is on there under the door, Sit down there, love.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
But I think our community does that stupidness where he's like,
I think right now, pound for pound, the best ban
Jubby singer out there period.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
I mean debatable. I have my opinions, but I like, Roy,
do you like the best Bunjumbi singer like alive out there?
Like making music right now?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
You could say it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I take this so seriously. This is like my reputation
is on the line.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
You don't have to say the best. You can say
one of the best.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I would like I have a top five and I'm
going to say this name because I think that he's
a good writer and he understands how to make hits.
That doesn't mean that music necessarily has a crazy amount
of substance.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
What you're about to say, Carnadlo, Yeah, yeah, I'll.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Give you that, right. He's it's a kind of undeniable.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah. I don't think there's ever been a Cardinode last song,
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Like it's hard to he's a machine. And I think
Shub is really good. Yeah, I think Shobb's really good.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Good.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, and I think there is really good. You know
you've heard.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It in probably I guess I'm not good with names.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, you might.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
For me, i'd say I'll give you card the jeets
in there.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
The jets without without saying yeah, okay, oh man.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It is hard to try to round it off because
there's so many people that I want to put in
in the fifth position.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So wait, this is an order. Yeah, oh, mine was
not an order. Okay. So the Late Bloomers set is
very different from all the other sets that you've been on, right,
because I look through your filmography and that was probably
like the first action like larger production that you would.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Say, yeah, the first real like quote unquote real production
I've been a part of. Everything else was like shoestring budget.
We have a data shoot, Yeah, we're doing it in
this person's house and that. But this is the first
set I've been on where like they're constructing things. Yeah,
So like everything's built on set and then you walk
them through a door and all of a sudden you're
in a house like blows your mind and like everything
(19:05):
in there, Like I would constantly be like, my mind's blown,
Holy crap, Holy crap, And then something else would happen.
I'd be like, that's amazing. How do they do that?
And then on top of that, I was kind of
fan boing over just me because I watched his video
right like I did. Yeah, I was like probably one
of the older guys watching his videos, but I'm still
dying when they came out. And then that's when I
was like, he's got a show. I'm like, I'm my
(19:27):
audition for this, and I think I said this during
my audition. Whether I get it or not, cool, but
I'm just glad he's back and I'm gonna look forward
to watching the show. Yeah, and to get to be
a part of it was just and like all the
other actors too, like Swenya, the one who plays Chippy
Ashley the Parents will Uncle scares me?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Does he play the dad?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah, nicest man in the world. I've had conversations and everything.
It's just something like.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Every time I round, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I think that's why because he has such a thortive
voice that every time I'd like go around him, I
get like nervous. I have no idea why.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I thought he would bring more comfort to.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Like he does.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
He does, but it's just it.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's a dad comfort. It's a scary comfort.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, it's like I don't know what to like. But
every time he's there, I'm like, I usually say whatever
I want on set, but every time he's there, I like,
watch my mouth, I more well behaved. Like he scares
me for some reason.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That's the secret.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
He's the nicest guy.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, if they need help, they need to bring him
straight up.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
But like all the actors there that we all get
along well. Yeah, Like it was just it's hard to
put into words how it felt shooting both the seasons.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
In comparison to the other work that you've done, What
do you feel like was one thing you actually miss?
Is there anything I actually mess about? All our productions,
the smaller production there is a certain kind of like
camaraderie and having a smaller production and like, and you know,
you have to do everything together and you guys are
always problem solving and you kind of bond in that way.
But also I noticed that you have writer credits and
(21:04):
you have production credits on the others, so you have
a little bit more influence on what direction story goes.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, that's probably something, But I don't know if I
missed that. That was a lot of responsibility, you know
what I mean, Like like people would come up to
you ask your questions, like, I don't know wt someone else?
You know, why do you ask me? I don't know.
I'm just trying to do this shot. Yeah, you know
what I mean. But yeah, I think it's one of
those things where I loved writing. I'm not good at
(21:30):
writing in script format. Okay, so even where I have
writing credits, I didn't actually type any of that out.
I just sit there while everyone else is writing, and like, say, hey,
maybe the guy says this.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You're good at just you know, directing giving Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
At Late Bloomer, I think they give you a lot
of like just me gives you creative control. Okay, So
if there's a line that I want to add somewhere,
I'll tell them, yeah, hey, I'm not add this, and
I'm like, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
What about like improvit?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah we've done that.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah he allows that. So we'll have our clean take
and then he'll be like, Okay, this one just let's
just do whatever guys.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, yeah, and we do.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
That, so you have that creative control there. I do
maybe miss the fact that it's like it's just really
big and you get lost a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
And like mentally or physically lost everywhere.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, Like sometimes you're walking around and then you're like
too busy looking at everything, and then you don't remember
where you're supposed to be at that moment. I get
lost a lot. I see, Yeah, they would. I remember
when I'd leave said like there would be people that'd
be like, Yo, five minutes, you better be back here.
We're going to find that because I would just wander
off and then remember that, Oh my god, we're shooting.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yeah, you're like, I'm actually at work.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Yeah, because it doesn't feel like it. But I think
the scale of it makes it feel a little daunting
compared to a small project, whereas a smaller project it's
such a small scale. But at the same time, now
because I'm union, I can't really do the small projects
anymore because it's not unionized.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Ah right.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
So there's a couple of things that happened at like
during late bloomer and after my friends were like, hey,
we should do this we should do that, and they're like,
I don't think I can. And then I started looking
into it and you can't get exception. But also right now,
I think I'm just going to kind of stick to
late Bloomer. I retired recently from my job in December,
so I'm going to focus a lot more on acting. Okay,
(23:24):
but I have to get an agent first, because apparently
that's important.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
You actually worked in the industry, or you worked in
a different industry, like a completely different industry. So I
don't think this is unique. And I was telling my
friend this while we were driving here. Every South Asian
creative has a odd, weird journey to finding their way
to whatever their creative like pieces or whatever whatever they
(23:49):
want to work on. So tell me about your creative journey.
How did it so?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
With me?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It all started when I was five. No, it is true.
I remember when I was five. The only thing I'd
watch on TV at that point was cartoons, right, and
then my dad rented a VCR like those video recorders. Shit,
I pople don't know what a VCR.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I can't think I'm younger than I am.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Okay, he rented a VCR. We still live in Calgary
and he rented three movies. I think one of them
was Gonna Sae, So this was like nineteen eighty two
ish okay, and he put them on. I'd never seen
an indie movie before, and all of a sudden, the
movie started and I'm like, what is this? Like the colors,
that the over the top everything with songs, like I
was like, I didn't really fully understand it, yeah, but
(24:34):
I was like so drawn to it. And then after that,
every weekend he would rent a VCR in three movies
and I would just sit there and watch them all
and I started getting into like Hindi movies, and then
that was my start, and they were so over the top.
Like then I watched a Hollywood movie once and I'm
like this sucks, Like where does the songs. My Dad's
like there's no songs of this, Like it's stupid, and
(24:56):
the colors aren't vibrant and like they're serious, like you
know the other movie somebody jumped off a roof and
kicked someone in the head, Like that was way more fun.
So then me and my sister started my younger sister
we started like making scripts. Oh and our first one
we did with this movie called Yeah, dude, I have
no idea what it was about. Yeah, it was about nothing, like.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
We just milk.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, So we kind of wrote loosely, wrote this script
in our head and then we would act out scenes
and like we were both like even though she was
a girl, we were brothers in that movie. She was
a cop and I was just like it was like
a very Indianish movie, right, yeah, and we would have
fun and like just act. I think it was escapism
because it was a tough childhood, so we would kind
(25:42):
of create our own little alternative reality. So that kind
of stayed, and then the love for movie stayed. When
it came time to get into university. Of course, it's
like you can't go home and say I'm gonna do film.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yeah right, not in a brown household, no, especially at
the time that you that is what like early nineties.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah. And then also like my dad had passed away,
so that like my mom was kind of relying on
me to start making money. And then it's like, yo,
by the way, mom, I'm going to become an actor.
He would have here the oldest time, right, I'm the
only son, and then I have three sisters. So then
I did university, graduated, started working, and then like seven
or eight years in, I met up with this guy,
Herman Durfol and I'm ron, I'm sorry. They're the guys
(26:24):
who've done the movies with me, so I met them
on Facebook. I think I just made like this film
group of who's interested in film, and these guys are like, oh,
we're writers, and I'm like, well, I have some ideas.
And then then we started meeting at my house, we
started writing, so there was always something there for me
to do. That kind of satisfied that part of it.
And even if if Late Bloomer never happened, I would
(26:46):
still probably keep doing little things like that, especially now
that I have the time. Just started right there with
those Hindi movies, and I was like, yo, I want
to be involved in this. Like this feels like it's amazing,
and it's like you can watch something on screen that's
rehearsed and scripted it can still like pull all these
feelings and emotions out of you right exactly, so like
it just feels real.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
And then from then onwards, like like I said, even
like Hollywood movies, yeah I watch them, Yeah, but Bollywood's
my favorite, is it yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
So do you count like Punjabi movies as Bollywood?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
No moves are their own thing. But I love them too.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Okay, Okay, I want.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
To do a movie with boom On. That's my dream project.
I love. Yeah. If anyone ever says like once their
dream project, I have two. I want to do a
movie with Booman. I don't care if I'm in there
for one scene. Yeah, And I want to get killed
by John Wick.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Okay, but I.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Don't think John Wick's doing movies. I don't think they're
gonna do another one anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I think those are great dream projects.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, like just killed by him. I don't even want
a dialogue, Like, I want to just walk up to
him and then have them just murder me free, just.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Like you don't even want your screen time.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Really, you just know he kills me, Yeah, kills you
with pencil on the neck and be like, mom, I
made it. Look at that anam Reeves just killed me.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Oh my god. Not necessary, lady, Nasa, lady, it is not.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
It is.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Don't get up to job.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
You're listening to Ruckus Avenue radio.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
They're not that, I mean to me to John.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
They're not paying, they're not paying. So I really relate
to that you saying that, like you would be doing
it no matter what, because I feel like I'm the
same way, Like I have a perfectly stable career and
my mom's like, why why are you doing this in
(29:10):
a bung And I'm just like, mom, like, I don't know.
I can't stop it. Just have to the free time
I have, that's what I want to be doing. I'm
not getting paid for it, and I'm doing it. And
if I'm getting paid for it, I'd still be doing it,
you know, Like.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I didn't get paid for it in Tall Bloomer, and
I was everything else I was doing. I was paying
out a pocket to do it. But it's like one
of those things where like once you have that gita,
I want to say, for lack of a better term, no,
that's great, you have to feed that gita occasionally or
else you start feeling like you're useless.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like your soul needs to be fed.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yeah, that's actually a really good way of putting it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
But I feel like that's why I like the name
is Jigney. Jigney in Sufi poetry, it means like a
wandering soul, like like the spirit of life and they're
just like going through life and like and that's what
I felt like I really resonated with, was that that
whole spirit of just like, no matter what I'm doing,
I'm going to be doing this because I am drawn
(30:07):
to it. I'm always pulled to it, So I might
as well just accept that this I'm going to be
doing this.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And that's the thing a lot of people give up
when they don't see anything Like it's like, well, dude,
you have to do it because you love doing it, Yeah,
and then things will happen. Yes, if you're doing it
to get popular, or if you're doing it because you
want to make a lot of money and stuff, like,
your chances are going to be low.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
If you just keep doing it and you keep doing
it for a long time, eventually something happens.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, because the authenticity it comes through, Like people can
feel that.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, and I think the universe starts conspiring and saying, Okay,
you know what, this guy he's not stopping, Let's throw
him a bone. You know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
That was like flimmer your bone.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, I think so, because I'm telling you it was
like I was at the lowest point of my life.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I remember that morning. When I got up, I was like,
I'm not going to work. I'm calling in sick today. Yeah,
you know, And I was just pissed off for some reason.
And I went to the washroom and I checked my phone.
I checked my emails and it was the offer from them,
and I didn't even read it. I just kind of said, okay, yeah,
I'm doing it. By I didn't read how much I
was getting paid. Nothing. I was like, okay, I need this,
(31:13):
I need to do this. I told us meet that
too once. I was like, yo, it's like it almost
saved me mentally really yeah, Like physically would have still
been around, but mentally it saved me.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But mentally is what matters. Who cares physically here? If
you're not mentally here, that's.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
What if you're not mentally here, physically here.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Literally, I read a comment where you said that you
prefer to do serious scrolls over comedy.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
So that's something that I feel like people would find
surprising about you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
See. See.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
The thing is, and I've said this before and people
are like, yeah, but because even the short film I did,
the Sun, when people watch that, they're like dude, that
wasn't funny at all. Yeah, I'm like, it's not a comedy.
I know it's funny, right, Yeah. So but they're like,
we thought when you told us you made a short film,
we thought it was gonna be funny. Yeah, And I'm like,
but then that doesn't feel like acting to.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Me because you're playing yourself.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yes, kind of right, Like, so like when I'm in
a serious role, like in Son, I play alcoholic that
abuses his wife and his kid. Yeah, that's acting. I
don't have a wife, I don't have a kid. Yeah,
and if I did, I probably wouldn't abuse him. But
but like that's acting, Like that felt like acting, right,
(32:25):
So that's why I prefer serious roles. But now when
I've after season two of Late Bloomer, it's kind of
starting to hit that even though it's comedy, this character
is a different person, Like it's not me, and I
still get to act as this character. Right, So I
don't know if I still have that same viewpoint. But
(32:46):
there was a time when I was like, yeah, I
don't want to do comedy, man, it's in comedy is hard.
It's hard to make people laugh, Like laughing is one
of those things where like there's no joke out there
that's universally considered funny.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I feel like farting is a universally funny joke.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, I love farting, right, but then I locked it
or the joke, the whole thing, but I was I
was lack close in tolerant. Yeah, so it's true story
nowhere this is going. Yeah, so I found out around
a year ago because I started cutting it out and
then I started losing weight after I started cutting it out,
and then I realized, like I don't fart as much
(33:19):
as I used to anymore, which kind of sucks because
like removing a superpower. But also it turns out I
wasn't even chubby. I was just bloated for my whole life.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Darry is very bloating.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, it's very bad for you. And then one of
my best friends is vegan. He owns a vegan restaurant too.
So the more and more I'm starting to get towards it.
So I've cut out dairy completely.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I think we know the restaurant, Hawker. Yeah, we love Hawker.
Oh no way, yeah yeah, we just went like December January,
we just went way.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Let me know next time that's Darshan's restaurant, is it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
We literally touched Almo's mom there because she loves cooking
and also so we would we all love food, and
we just sat there and we just ate everything and
we're like, okay, so what did they put in here?
And we're just like trying to figure out what they
put way they do it.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
It's him and this guy Jeff, Like it's crazy. Yeah,
it does a lot of the dishes, but they they've
got new dishes that they just started a week ago.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Oh okay, yeah, so we need to go back.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah the next time you go, let me know. Okay,
and then all all like, get you guys a resume
in there.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
You're making a restaurant.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, we're there, like I'm there probably once or twice
a week. We're walking around because we live close to
there too. It's like a twenty minute walk, yeah, which
is like a decent walk, but.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
For a Toronto person, that's not bad. Twenty minutes is
like fun.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'll do some days. I do like twenty five thousand steps.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
When I used to live downtown, I have my dog.
It's just me and him. We're just hanging out. We're
walking around everywhere and I get like ten errands done, yeah,
and I get my steps.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
In yeah, and it's healthy. Yeah, you're not downtown anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
No, not back back in Brampton, back in the ends.
What part of Brampton by Georgetown?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Okay? Yeah, I used to be at Miss Saga Road
and over I was on Ashby Field Road stop really
thirty five I was there from I bought that house
a new in two thousand and seven and I moved
out in twenty sixteen or twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Wow, look at you.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, So that's my Brampton, like when I when people
see Branton era, So that's where I draw a lot
of sunny stuff on the Brampton ara. But I remember
the first time I moved to Brampton. I was talking
to people. It's like they were singing.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
What do you mean singing?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Like when you talk to someone from Brampton, you'd be like, yo, bro,
what's going to be?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Like?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yo, what are you saying? You'd be like, what just happened?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
She's dying.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Though?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Right, Like they'd be like, yo, dog, what are you saying?
And you'd be like huh. And then because I was
my younger cousins that lived there at the time, and
I'd be like, dude, then I made like a lot
of like a lot of students became my friend when
I honed the convenience store. And then now people are
like turning on them, right, And yeah, we kind of
(35:59):
dressed that situation in season two. But what pisses me
off the most is, Okay, so you have all these
students here. I'm going a bit of a rant here, Sorry,
go off. They're drinking, they're partying there. Guess what can
I swear?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah? I mean I might bleep it out, but go off.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, so they're partying, they're drinking, and they're a university
in college. That's what you do at that age. That's
what we did at that age. I remember doing in
York University Student Center and all the brown guys I
was with were all Canadian born.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Right, and now those same guys are like students. I'm like, dude,
you don't remember what we used to do. The only
difference is we could keep it on campus because there
were spots to live on campus. So now the reason
why people are getting all bent out of shape the
students are doing what they're supposed to do. They're enjoying themselves,
they're partying. This is the These are the years you
do that, and then you're going to work for the
rest of your life. If anything, they work harder than
(36:51):
the kids that were born here work.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, they work and party.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Exact same time exactly. And then I'm like, oh, they're driving,
that's their own money, exactly. They can do whatever they want.
And then no one is saying anything to the government
that allowed that situation to happen. First of all, with
a bunch of them coming in a b the fact
that the colleges that are charging exorbitant fees are not
(37:17):
building any places on residences for these students. So what
ends up happening The students moved to the residential neighborhood
that's closest to the college. Now they're going to party
and have fun because they're students. And now the people
that live in that area that have to go to
work in the next morning are like But no one
is pointing a finger at like shared in college and saying, hey,
there's an acreage of empty land here. You're charging these
(37:40):
kids fourteen fifteen grand a year. Why haven't you built
any residence apartment?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I swear they charged way more than fourteen or whatever.
It is no like international students especially like double what
we like.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And then it's like Conastoga College, same thing in Kitchener.
You guys have all this land, they've benefited probably the
most from international students, and they have the east amount
of residence spaces available. Yeah so like and then where's
our government forcing these colleges that have made hundreds of
millions of dollars off these students to say, Hey, you've
made all this money, you can let international students. Great,
(38:12):
it's good revenue for you. But for every international student
you let in thirty percent, you need to have residence
spaces for those students because where are they going to live?
And then they live in the residential neighborhoods and when
they party on Thursday Friday night, everyone gets mad at them.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
But you're right because any other university like residential area
is taken over by the students, like if you go
to like Ottawau, or you go to any other like
campus here, like all the residential houses are frat houses
or yeah, the only difference is these are brown people.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, so people don't like seeing us doing that. But
like if you like go to the same neighborhood and
you saw a bunch of now non brown people partying everyone,
they're university kids. Let them have a good time.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
And then the worst part is it is our community
is the worst.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
We're the worst protecting ourselves.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah. Yeah, like we like, forget everyone else looking at
us with hate. We look at us with hate. Like
the ones who came here and were born here, look
at them like they're less of Yeah, and it's like, dude, no,
they're not. Like some of the hardest working, nicest people
I've ever met are international students. Our four or five
percent of them problem. Yeah, are four or five percent
of the people that live here a problem? Yeah? Yeah,
(39:26):
Like it's just like a regular ratios dude, there's not
like a huge problem coming from them.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah. I think, like the only other thing is that
there's just cultural differences.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah, and that a while.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, And that's normal with any immigration population that moves anywhere,
Like look at New York, look at like the when
the Italians first came, Like it happens everywhere.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
My mom has stories about my uncles and my dad
and then when they first got here and the stupid
shit they used to do because culturally they didn't know
that this wasn't accepted that But the difference was back
in those days, the community would tell you that like
where's and I've always wanted to be a part something
like this, But where's us with our outreach to sit
with them and say, hey, guys, this is what's culturally
acceptable here. This is kind of frowned upon. Nobody's telling
(40:08):
them that they don't have parents here.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Who you're listening to?
Speaker 4 (40:34):
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