March 31, 2026 • 45 mins
Punjabis from different parts of the diaspora are so similar, yet different. It’s like we're in a Multiverse.
In this episode of Jugni, we bridge the Atlantic for a massive conversation with London-based creator Beant Dhillon. Known for his sharp insights into Punjabi and Sikh-related content, Beant joins me for a hilarious, insightful and winding conversation that covers:
* The Evolution of Punjabi Music: The resurgence of Folk and what it was like interviewing TruSkool.
* Sikh History: The stories and heritage that shape us as a community today.
* UK vs. Canadian Punjabi Culture: learning Punjabi and our terrible attempts at each other’s accents
* The Rap Influence: Beant’s rapping career and how artists like Drake, Kendrick, and J Hus influenced him growing up.
* Content with a Purpose: The journey of creating Sikh-centric content and the responsibility that comes with representing Panjabis online.
This is Part 2 of a 2-part conversation.
In this episode of Jugni, we bridge the Atlantic for a massive conversation with London-based creator Beant Dhillon. Known for his sharp insights into Punjabi and Sikh-related content, Beant joins me for a hilarious, insightful and winding conversation that covers:
* The Evolution of Punjabi Music: The resurgence of Folk and what it was like interviewing TruSkool.
* Sikh History: The stories and heritage that shape us as a community today.
* UK vs. Canadian Punjabi Culture: learning Punjabi and our terrible attempts at each other’s accents
* The Rap Influence: Beant’s rapping career and how artists like Drake, Kendrick, and J Hus influenced him growing up.
* Content with a Purpose: The journey of creating Sikh-centric content and the responsibility that comes with representing Panjabis online.
This is Part 2 of a 2-part conversation.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
So you started rapping right, and then when did you
get into the jamb and sick related context.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, so growing up we were just like your family
were saying that we were sick family. My dad's are
saying like BBG had me doing saj bart when I
was a kid, that she took took her time to
teach me read Barton Barney and stuff. And I've got
some crazy go to six in my life who have
really challenged my beliefs and stuff. So sick he was
(00:44):
always there. Luckily, Lemington's got a really good community.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Did you start with rapping first?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, I've been rapping for ages, so I was rapping, rapping, rapping.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, because you have liked music videos.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, dropped my debut EP in twenty twenty three. I
had an album out in twenty sixteen on SoundCloud with
the producer called Jackson Homer and he's my mate. We
haven't seen him for a while, but he's doing really
well now in the house kind of scene. And that
was our debut project that's in SoundCloud and I think
we've removed it now because it wasn't quite where it
should be. But I was sixteen, so you know, I
(01:16):
think he was eighteen seventeen, so that was like amateur.
It was all amateur from from I'd say twelve to
like eighteen, and I just didn't drop anything. I started
doing these freestyles on Instagram and they gained a decent
amount of traction. They were very sporadic, so once every
three four months, and people started noticing on the saying
raps whatever, whatever. And then there's a producer called as
(01:36):
Clard Origin my mate from London, East London, Newham, sho Yasmin.
He he put me in touch with Cllard Clad and
Meat dropped a debut EP. He's just dropped an album
with rumand Baines. Okay, yeah, he dropped album with him recently,
and he dropped out EP with Harry Bundle as well.
So he's mainly in the Punjabi hip hop space. But
(01:58):
we did a pure hip hop English EP. Then dropped
more music with my good friend, one of my closest
friends in the world, Luke.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
When was the transition from that to making.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
There was nosh, sorry to cut you off. There's no
transition as such. Start making content in twenty twenty two,
I think, wait.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's so funny. I started in twenty twenty two, twenty
one around I think, yeah, wow, that's wild. Yeah, Like
it was right after COVID.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And my video is really bad. The quality was bad.
I didn't have a mic. The lighting, I didn't understand
how lighting worked. They're all still there, so people can look.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
At them, like, what made you start doing those.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Moselle. I dropped syl and I realized people didn't have
the context, so I just did a video in the
context and then thought I can do more videos. I
was actually in Italy at the time teaching kids English.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, oh were you?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah, so that's that's cool. Yeah, that's what I
was doing for a few weeks, and then I just
started dropping content and naturally I realized it the gap,
and I think the still a gap.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
The stuff I do was that on Instagram or TikTok.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
TikTok, just TikTok music was on Instagram. That was on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, but you're like really consistent.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Now, yeah, how do you do that well on Instagram?
It's all my TikTok's from the last three years. So
I think I try and do about two three original
videos a week, but the rest of the time it's
daily videos from the backloun.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Now, but two three original it is also hard to do.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, I'm trying to do them quicker, get them out there,
less editing me talking to you. Like, I try and
imagine someone I like who likes my content, if they're
in front of me, what would I like to say
to them, Almost like a conversation, even though it's one way.
It's a bit weird. But yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That's a good way of looking at it. I am very,
very inconsistent compared to you. Also, I just want to
say I'm sick. I don't usually sound like that's like.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You've been traveling because you've been traveling.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yes, it is because I've been traveling. But also I
feel like I've done a little bit of a and
it sounds like I'm like indicating something. I am just
clearing my throat. Okay, how do I do it? I
feel like for me, honestly, I have so many videos
and so many topics that I've researched that I haven't
put out. I think What happens with me is that
I have a love for research. I go down rabbit holes, right,
(04:20):
and I love doing that. But then when it comes
to translating it into a video, I find it so hard.
And I am a perfectionist. I need to be quicker too.
I spend so many hours on like a two minute video.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I think part of it's like I am so interested
in so many things, and then I look back and
I'm like, I didn't need to include half of these
things because most people don't care. They're not going down
the rabbit hole that I'm going down. Yeah, right, So
I'm actually struggling with that nowadays.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
But that's a problem for you. And do you think
shortening the time from production from idea to posting is
it way you can get around that circumvented If you
have an idea, now research a tiny bit, yeah, and
then if you were to shoot it and then just
get it out there, yeah, you reckon. That would make
it easier for you to be more consistent and deliver
(05:14):
in a way that doesn't feel what sounds to be
quite drained because you're saying like hours and hours. Yeah,
if you just shorten that time, just idea, okay, cool,
let me google it, okay cool, roughly hair boom.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It would be easier if I picked a different niche.
My niche is very specific because like, for example, if
you're doing more pop culture stuff, you can just do
a Google search, right, It's pretty easy, it's pretty quick.
When you're doing the history behind a tica, it's not
really a Google search, it's more of like yeah. And
(05:46):
then I think it's because those things hold so much
value with so many different groups of people. I'm so
concerned about offending people and think you can relate to
this too. It's tough. It's just that, like when you're
making content on things that people identify with strongly, then
you have to be really careful because then they're going
to have a very intense reaction when something isn't exactly
(06:09):
how they see it. So that's why I think for me,
I can't just do a Google search. I unfortunately can't
because a lot of the stuff that I talk about
I have to dig a lot to find information on.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, it resonates with me, But your niche can always change,
and you can do so you can do those really
long researched kind of videos. Yeah, and potentially you could
then also do quicker videos where it's like this is
what my thoughts on X are, yeah, or I like
doing this or whatever it is, because I think if
you feel those videos are challenging and it seems like
(06:42):
you feel like you want to be more consistent, Yeah,
continuing to do those more research things which you seem
to enjoy it, and then doing shorter content when you're
trying to connect with the audience. So I feel like
that's quite important keeping that connection. No, I feel like
I've been.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Trying to expand a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I don't know it's.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Obvious, but like I don't only focus on fashion as
much anymore. I do like to talk about all like
a bunch of other things, and that makes it easier
to expand. I feel like we're in the therapy. You're like,
this is like, this is like career therapy right now,
bands giving.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
No talking about software development. That's what we need to
talk about, because that's really impressive. Women in STEM but
not be women in STEM. That's good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, it's definitely a very male dominated field for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Is that difficult?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yes? Yeah, I was one of eight or ten girls
in my in my degree Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I don't know how many people in your three.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Hundred two hundred something like that. They usually phase out,
people drop out, you know, as you yeah, yeah, I
don't know if you felt that way. But what a
degree did you do.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Is that you can do that?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
True, you can do a lot of Canadians go to
the UK just because you can do that. Because you
can't do.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That my main cousin doing that, I believe.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Anyways, not to talk about the boring stuff. Back to
what we were talking about. When did you feel like
it started taking off?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Me?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Wow, because your idea of numbers when you first start, Yeah,
thousands crazy and a thousand is crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It is crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, you know, a thousand people watching you quite a lot.
That was happening quite quick. And then I just kept going.
And this was after university, so I had a bit
of time on my hands between jobs. That period was
really cool because it's like, oh, what can I do
or can do a video on this? Some video ideas
I'd never do now some I actually learned a lot
built that kind of trust. And I don't get loads
(08:37):
of views anyway, Like I never get a viral video
like most I got like six hundred care I think
they never go like crazy, but I think it's like
a community, almost like a niche kind of. I feel
like I know people and I see them out and
about when I'm out in jubby places or God Dada
or whatever, like I know, like, oh you're I did
a video on autism and SIKY and there's a group
(08:59):
in Lament and Spa and from they have a thing
called Inclusive r SO about bringing people who are on
the spectrum. I thought it was incredible that they had
this initiative because it's really important. So I did video
on it. And the reaction I got from the community
across the world, like people that ow, my daughter's autistic
or my son you know has special needs and stuff
(09:19):
and your video like I wish we had something like
Inclusive r in wherever, Brampton or whatever it is. So
having the ability to push and spotlight really important work
and then connect with these people like they spoke to
the people that run Inclusive, probably should do more for
them and try and work with them a bit more.
But you can really see the impact it has taken
(09:40):
off in its own way, you know, interviewing True School,
doing the listening party, Indian doctor Ram like I now
we've like connected and there's there's a I wouldn't say
like a movement, but like a group of like creative
content creators and stuff emerging for the last few years.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, escalated that. Yeah, yeah, which is amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, it feels like just Rain, Bubo and them lot
Up and bar is it. Yeah, is just like it
feels like that almost like me ramblings India and the
UK like and there's a lot of others. My brain's
just come blank. But growing just like talking to you,
we like friends now. Yeah, that's quite important. I think
(10:24):
it was all taken like we're all taken off in
a way.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's so important for kids
growing up nowadays because like you said, like we look
at just Rain and we look at rupin Ball and
Bab and all these people, and that for me definitely
had an impact on me wanting to do creative things right,
Like I'd see just Rain and Lily saying as well,
I like she doesn't.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Ak Ak Yes, Ak is a huge supporter as well.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I know he's so supportive. We saw all these people,
right and they inspired us to some degree, and like
that's so important for kids to have people that look
like the that come from where they come from, so
they can see themselves and these people and represent it
in media specifically because kids, especially nowadays, Even when we
were young, I know, but you, but I consumed a
(11:11):
lot of media as a kid, and kids nowadays consume
way more than we did, and so it's really important
for them to have people that look like them, that
come from where they come from to look.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Up to, and I think, to explore things they're interested in.
It's not the mainstreams role nor their expertise to delve into,
like you mentioned whether Dicka comes from or like Ramblings
does to look into with Java La saying d's some grant.
Why would the mainstream do? That's just not what they're
there for. It's not their role. So we create our
(11:46):
own platforms, not out of or you're not going to
have me out of like, well, we've got a niche,
so we can create these fragmented kind of niches and
then bring them, put them together and create some kind
of platform where we're all kind of learning and connecting
and trying to help push Bunjabi and sick and whatever
you're interested in further and help people find their people.
(12:09):
If that makes sense, I think it's really important.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah for sure. Okay, true School, Yeah, I think that's
something that we need context for. Yeah, because True School
is a big deal. I feel like there's a lot
of people outside the UK who don't understand how much
of a big deal he is.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I think across Bunjabi music lovers, he's just an incredible
artist who pushed the boundaries. So yeah, with his first
two albums as specialists. So it's like that Punjabi folks
sound with contemporary kind of well not even contemporary because
it's more like nineties hip hop. And there's also like
that look what people call loafire that R and B
kind of like Erka Badou kind of vibes to it.
(12:48):
His body of work with people like JK, launching JK
as an artist, then doing what I think really put
the jit cemented him as an artist, was back to
basics song got Cardgoo Strawberry or did are These are
like classic dilute songs, and then Garden's debut album I
(13:10):
Know That's Crazy, and then recently with this EP with
JK and singles between Yeah short prints, that album One
Time for Your Mind is just incredible like he is
really specialized and I was gassed just to have the
opportunity to sit down.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So you interviewed True School first, Yeah, and there was
a listening party. How did that come about?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Golf Catalyst who manages Garden and Bengals I believe still Bangals,
he is involved with that EP and he just contacted
me and said, oh do you want to do this? That?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, I noticed he followed me for a while. And
I think a lot of musicians and artists and people
behind the scenes, specially Jubby Music, are quite aware of
content creators in general. Like there's a guy just K
ninety eight from Leicester. He yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's
doing really well. Numbers are crazy, way more than me,
(14:14):
but he kind of put me onto that. This year,
I've kind of seen that, like who's been reaching out
and the opportunities and just like the love I've been
getting from artists and beyond, Like just in general, it's
interesting you don't always think the reach you have, like
who sees what?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I feel like I had a moment like that too,
because like I think right now Opunjubbe music is having
a moment. I feel like there was a wave of it.
There was a UK wave. Jazzy b.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Jazzy is a Canadian though I know that. Yeah, I know,
I know he came here and made all his hits here,
but you should you should take I mean, we'll.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Take him, trust me. But I think what I'm saying
is that like the wave happen and in the UK
right like that wave in what was it the nineties,
early two thousands, kind of like around that time. Now
there's a second one and you can really see it
because everyone and their mom is trying to be bunjubi artists.
But also there's some really good artists coming out. And
(15:16):
I feel like a Jubby Trapp has been really big
recently and that was something that was some new that
we saw coming. So like, yeah, I feel like even
when I make any video that has to do with
Bunda music, it gets a lot of attention, and I
don't I just do it because I love Aunjebby music
and like I'm obsessed with it and so are you.
But yeah, you can see the effect just because that's
(15:38):
what's the boom right now.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
You said UK, then I think then two thousand to
twenty tens India are just not their see crew like
Gary Sandhu, Jasmine Sandlers, they're missing loads of people and
even they all came out around that from India and
then we got Siddhu and kind of yeah, Canada has
(16:01):
really been doing well. There's space for everyone, I think,
and there's talent all over the world. There's talent in
random places Italy, Australia. I think biggis from Australia, from
Punjab moved to Australia. I wouldn't be surprised if Punjabia
has popped out of Columbia or something crazy, you know,
like we are everywhere and the scene is becoming more
like one. Yeah, global, definitely. Canada's really we can't deny
(16:25):
what they've there's levels they've taken it too in the
mainstream garden Ap Siddel even like Warner Bros. Is involved,
Like yeah, sure we've seen like something that we haven't
seen in terms of the mainstream putting their money into
Punjabi music. And that changes everything because now you have
an infrastructure, you've got A and RS, you've got this,
(16:47):
you've got that, and Manny Sandhu's doing a lot of
that in the UK with having that infrastructure, finding artists,
finding talent and then bringing them to the forefront and
creating a whole like infrastructure around it. And that's really
important breaking borders. That festival is infrastructure and that helps
the scene because artists needs places to perform. They need
like a ladder, small stage. Now they've got middle stage.
(17:09):
Now they're in the main stage, they're headlining. That is
like we need that progression in music and we're getting
it exactly. Yeah, shout out just everyone behind the scenes
and front, like every all of it all is the team. Everyone,
Like anyone who's doing some music contributing, shout out to
them minute because they're the reason for music is doing well.
If you've got fifty listeners, if you're practicing your room
(17:30):
and you're doing like you're contributing to this like culture.
And it's just really good to see for me because.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
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Speaker 3 (17:38):
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Speaker 6 (17:44):
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Speaker 3 (17:55):
It for a no clear reason and this we be
and got that quote might.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Be like we were talking about kids and role models before.
It's so important that band music is having its moment
again because it really connects people to the language, to
the culture, to everything. Because just me on my own,
(18:22):
like so much I've learned about the language and the culture.
Like you were talking about, like, oh, your mom doesn't
understand Jimkilla lyrics and things like that same thing. Right Like,
when I'm listening to some stuff, I'm like, I don't
know what this means because I don't use that bunjebbi
in my daily language. And I've now learned so much
because of bunjebbi music, right Like I did not know
what feme was before the girl.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's a crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Example, crazy example, I know, But what I mean is that,
like it's such a tool. It's a big tool to
keep the youth connected to their culture and to their language.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And we've seen the use particularly reconnecting with folk music.
Manik Shinda, Jimkila, you know all of those great artists
who had a lot of important messages in their song,
like sortoan stories like that from the Hindu tradition. You know,
(19:19):
Giana Mare such a Sam Buggered saying the real Like
these kind of things are immortalized. These stories are mortalizing
in Punjabi music and I've noticed that I noticed my
friends and stuff like even dartamic music, so like Marnik's
got some of the greatest Darto Mak music out. That's
why that pipeline between someone being a Punjabi music head
(19:41):
too then then them engaging quite deeply with siky as
something that really I think does happen a lot, Like
a lot of the Pungadaur heads are know they're now
on Manna Dati. They and it's not like necessarily like
all of them, of course not. But Djabi music is
a great way to spread his history and spirituality as well,
(20:02):
because it's very spiritual, like Hans Hans has got some amazing,
some amazing, amazing spiritual tunes that said Luca gunder Like,
and I mean that to say spiritual in terms of content,
but also after that, music is the unsaid. It's what
words can't express, So inherently it's spiritual in one way
or another, Like if you're singing about something that is unfathomable,
(20:26):
you can't that ogs like they express something you can't
express with words. So what we we we hear then
is spiritual to me like and and on a deep level,
that's why I thinkthan is tag and it does move
people the way it does. And obviously nothing can compare
to Gidan because it's Goodbani and it's it's it's sharp
with Guru. But it has a really special place in
(20:50):
the world. And I think as to anyone, like if
you're English, if you're Italian, your music's going to move
you because it speaks to your soul, you speak to
your mind necessarily.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Absolutely. But yeah, True School, that's great. I love Yeah,
honestly we have the same ADHD.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We everyone says it's ADHD. I have not been diagnosed.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Man, Yeah, True School. How is that? What was that
experience like? Because you grew up with him so being
able to then, but I grew up listening.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Oh yeah, crazy. I was like, I was like, there's
a big age difference. I was like, this is because
I'm tired to take it things literally. I grew up
with True School in Derby. I'm actually I'm actually.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Like a decade listening to him and like, you know,
how how is it interviewing him? That was probably like unreal.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, I think it was the first interview I've done.
So I ran Dips Bumbra and Ricky Bandwagon, who are interviewers,
and I asked them for advice, So how do you
think I should interview? Name really helped with advice, And
they're both people I've always given me their time, so
I just appreciate that. And I tried to think and
(22:06):
not overthink, but also be khyper away in the conversation
that as you know as someone who podcasts this, there's
a conversation going on here, and I'm engaged fully in
this conversation, but you're probably, I don't know, tell me
thinking about two or three different things here, right, it's
a conversation going the right way. Well, okay, I'm listening
to what beyond saying, but okay, I can talk about
(22:28):
that mental note. Let me go circle back to that
and then okay, what we're going to go next to that.
That's what an interview is, and it's really quite intellectually
demanding as well as the research you need to do.
So it's a great experience. I'd love to do more
interviews talking to people. I think I enjoy it a lot.
I've got positive feedback, so yeah, but I'm always you know,
(22:50):
if you've got negatives, let me know nicely. Because people
be swearing. That's fine, swear at me as well. That's
a john going.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Honestly, we make content online, We're used to it where
you see people just saying whatever they want to say.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But ever in person though the person there, everyone's friendly,
everyone's really nice and personal, overly nice. I'm like, are
you being sarcastic?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So is that the direction that you want to take?
It's like, do you have an idea? But where you
want to go? Where you want to take this?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I enjoy interviewing, enjoy making music. I'm really enjoying my
job at the moment, okay, intellectually, really stimulating. It's challenging,
I'm learning something new. I'd love being in the office
against probably a bit of ego because it comes with prestige,
but yeah, it's reality. I love making my content. I
(23:44):
make a videos. I love doing in person events. I
do job folk events where I bring people together and
try and platform people who have learned how to sing properly.
And I love all of that. So continue all of
the above. I'll started modeling recently. Bombay mummy, Yeah, I
just shout out yes she needed to sing, and I
was like yeah, I was like I can try. Yeah,
(24:07):
And then I did a bit of acting. So if
we look out for that, I mean by the time
that was probably out.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah. The first thing I did was with Troy Boy
and Bombay Mummy. The second one is a bit more
acting where I'm like, I'm actually really not a nice
character in it. But yeah, minute and I loved it.
It was challenging. I was out on my comfort zone
in work. I always try and say yes, someone gives
me work, try and say yes, I'll try. I'll try it.
I'll try it, I'll give my best in life. I
(24:33):
try and say yes, and I got the opportunity. Was like, yeah,
I'll do it. I loved it, and everyone I met
on they work so hard. Yeah, people work like lighting, camera, yeah, everything.
They work so hard and it was eye opening.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I actually I recently was like on some sets as well, insane,
like it takes a village, it takes a town, like
it takes takes a city, it takes a share it
takes gender gout, it takes a union state or whatever
is extreme territory. No, but it's insane what it goes
(25:10):
into a production. But what I love about being on
set is everyone's there to do the same thing, so
everybody is working towards one thing, So it's just that
feeling of community and that feeling of like doing it together.
And I think, I don't know if you can relate
to this being content creators, because like, yeah, like I'm
a software developer, a content creator, so I spend a
(25:32):
lot of time working alone to a camera alone and
being alone all that alone, and so to be able
to do it with a bunch of other people who
also have the same end goal is just such a
fun and like fulfilling feeling with other people.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I yeah, I agree. I have an appreciation I think
for people that do that work. And I message my
friend who's a model, and I'm saying to it, like, yeah,
you guys work hard and child get in. It was
like you work hard, like you're like it's difficult, and
they the models work hard, but the behind the scenes
work even harder, Like they don't get to rest. I
don't think they ate lunch and it's like a twelve
(26:11):
hour shoot. So I'd love to do more of that
because I found it fun. I thought I was nervous,
and you know, I like to be nervous now, Like
it pushes me in boundaries like this is new. There's
a new skill I'm trying to learn, trying to So
I like that. So yeah, if anyone wants me, I
don't know if it just needed the say. So she
was like, oh, that's you all do.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But you're tall. So I feel like that's good. I
feel like models need to be tall.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
But I like to perpetuate the myth. I'm five foot two,
so keep that good.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, because like for it.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I'm for it. I'm four foot three. Yeah, people actually
believe it as well.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
That's good that people don't need to know.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
They don't they know, they do know because it's true.
They believe the truth.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
What kind of advice do you feel like you'd have
for a kid who is maybe watching your videos right now?
No one wants to do that, or somebody who just
wants to pursue anything.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Creative advice is difficult. I think what I tell myself
is it's literally, like it's very generic. It's your life,
literally your life. Like people wake up like I'm I
wake up as a kid, like one day I'm going
to drive fari a ferrari go deal any I'm going
to be one.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I was a curious to thing with one would be
strong and be really strong. If I'm not taking steps
every single day to somehow get closer to that goal,
it's not happening. It's not happening. Mine's wake up. I
want to be rich. I want to do this. I
want to do that. It is literally not going to
happen unless every single day you wake up and you're
moving towards that goal. You're moving, you're thinking about, you're strategizing,
you're creating a plan to bring that into fruition. And
(27:47):
I think in the age of social media and scrolling
and everything, there's a lot of pressure and I completely
empathize with people. And this is why it's the advice
to myself nobody else. I look at myself in the mirror, say,
nobody going to sit there and go who's putting money
in beyond pocket? Who's giving beyond opportunities? Is beyond happy?
A lot of people do, they do think about me,
(28:07):
and I've got a lot of good people in my life,
but really it's me and my spiritually fulfilled I don't know,
probably got an ego problem, but am I doing what
I need to do to get where I want to
go to? That's on me, just like it's on you
put up to do what you need to do. Having
that in my head is equally freeing and equally probably
a bit of pressure, but it's just the reality that
(28:29):
is just such a right, that is just facts. Ultimately
the highest such is. It's all hook them, So nothing's
really gonn happen. But because I live in ego, like
most of the world, I believe my actions have and
the illusion of my home mare is so strong that
it might as well be true that I've got free will.
So I believe in that, and I think because it's
so strong, that illusion, that I've got to give it
(28:50):
my own. I've got goals, I've got to achieve them.
I've got to try and be a good person, you know,
hold myself because no one is going to really stop
you from being really having bad thoughts. You have to
be there for yourself. And that's like accountability, really trying
to be as accountable. Like you know, I don't ring
my parents enoughhould probably ring them more. No one's going
(29:12):
to tell me that. I've got to do that, like
I've got bib whoever it is, no need you like,
I've got to do that, like myself and no one's
going to do it for you. Like literally, that's kind
of it. Really. That's what I say to myself is
like try your best as well, be be kind to yourself. Yeah,
but find the line where it's like, nah, you could
have done better, you could have been kind of you're
a bit rude there. Journal maybe is good advice to, Yeah,
(29:35):
do your journal, try to not really good at it.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I think organizing my thoughts, organizing my life is quite important.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, yeah, it is absolutely. I think we were talking
about this earlier. Yeah, why don't brown guys go to therapy?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, I mean I don't go to therapy. I've got
a mate, really good friend. Because it's about therapy, I
won't see who it is. He's older than me, and
he told me that he thinks everybody should go absolutely
and organize their thoughts and try to work towards something,
not always through something, but you're working towards goals in
(30:08):
your life, and having someone to talk to about that
could be helpful. On the other hand, I understand the
feelings people have where it's like there's a barrier and
it's a challenge, and why would some outside person have
a perspective of my life. It's giving up control to
an extent. It could be seen like that. I understand that,
I totally because there have been cases where therapists have
(30:34):
so much influence on their clients' lives, where they've almost
convinced them, gas lit them to believing you know certain things.
And that's really scary. And I think people read that
and they're justifiably and understandably worried about it. And I wonder.
I don't know anything about this, but from a legal perspective,
I don't know how well regulated it is across the
(30:54):
world and how well regulated is in the UK. So understand.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I feel like those are the main questions I had
for you.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Cool, Yeah, we can just yeah, go on chat to me,
Chat to me about London.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
London, it is gloomy, but I feel like that's the vibe.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But you've only ever come in winter time? Sounds like it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I came in May last time, yes, spring, but and
now it's like fall, sounds like autumn.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
It's autumn now. For what is really funny because you know,
like I know you're a Canadian, but the impression and
the stereotype of you know, Americans, you know you're Canadian
is do you call glasses eyeglasses? Is that a thing?
Is that what you call them? Like a car?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah? You guys, you guys say lenses.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We just say glasses.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Why do you need to specify say eyeglasses?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Okay? Americans do right?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
No, no, no, I think they only say it if
someone doesn't understand, like in.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
The context, what do you sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
In the context of a conversation, it is just going
to be like, yeah, I forgot to wear my glasses.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
And what about when you're on a horse? What what
do you call that a horse? When you're when you're
like on a horse going somewhere, what do you say?
What would you how would you describe that?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I don't usually get on horses.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Somebody words, there's a point to this, there's a point
to this question. You just making making it sound crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
No, I what do you mean? Like they're on a
horse and they're going somewhere. I'm on my way horse
horsing around.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
That's completely different. Americans, as far as I know, call
it horseback riding.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Oh, horseback riding. Yeah, what's wrong with horse.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Riding that you don't need to specify that you're riding
the horse on its back. Well, So that that's one
of pause. The second one is eyeglasses. What do you
say sidewalk pavement? Why do you say it's on the side,
like it's unnecessary? It's probably because and there's a few
other americanisms that I'm just like, why, what is the purpose?
(32:49):
But we think like, no, I know.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I see. This is the other thing is that, like
I've been saying this to the whole trip other people,
I noticed the American inside of me. Yeah, because like
we get really influence by America, like it's undeniable. They're
like really big, right, So it's like a lot of
what I'm used to is American technically, and so when
I when I say it, I'll be like, oh, it's
(33:11):
just the American and me, and people be like, aren't
you Canadian. I'm like, no, no, I am Canadian. But
to be Canadian, it's to be a little American.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah, I think American. And that's a whole different conversation.
But I think America has such a global monopoly on
media and culture. Yeah, that the UK probably experiences it too. Absolutely,
you guys are India probably experiences it that. Look at
rap music comes out of New York and the whole
world is just infatuated with rap, like the whole world,
(33:40):
Like people in India are rapping, like I understand it's poetry,
but they are adopting New York fashion and a cipher
system which is basically a mere fold book. Yeah, it's
it's important from the US. You see it across the
world in Africa, you see in Italy, you see it
in Russia, like Australia, like rock music is.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
From a historical perspective, it's very normal for the ruling
empire to be this influential. I just think it's so
different for America because because of technology, we have so
much access to everything that my dad uses this word
all the time. Globalization is just such an easy thing
to do. So I think they they are in a
(34:22):
unique position where they have way more influence than any
other ruling empire because they have access to technology.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, I always say super power.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah absolutely. But I was gonna ask you, what is
your perspective on Canadian Pandubby's. So this is this is
what always gets me every single time I see a
punjubby person right and in the UK. This always trips
me up, Like if I speak with them in pundubby like, yeah,
they sound normal, they sound fine. Maybe their pen dubby's
a little different, but it's usually not that big of
(34:53):
a deal. And then they'll just come up with a
Scottish accent and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
It's might, isn't it. It's the Scottish things.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
It's crazy. It's crazy to me. And I'm just like,
oh my god, I thought you were like me, but
you're not like me.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Like there's a young thing from Scotland. I think he's
a young thing. Yeah, and he just got her and
he's got Scottish accent. I'm pretty sure he's like and
I can't do Scottish as I'm gonna try. It's like
and the sangs, the sayings were fighting, I can't do it.
That's a terrible sound in northern anyway, you do it
and it sounds like braver and you really get into it,
You're like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
It's pretty. It's pretty cool. But yeah, I think it's
a bit trippy. I know where you know some things
and they're from Wales and they talk like different Whales.
And there's Auntie as well, and she's she's basically well,
she's born and raised in Whales, so she's going to
she's she's going to do I'm trying to do Wales,
but I'm really under pressure. So because of the pressure,
(35:53):
I'm probably not doing a good job. But she she
talks to me and she goes, would you would you
like some blood duos?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Some blood dus. I'm trying trying to even I'm trying, jus.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Do you feel the same way about Canadians, Like when
you meet them now it's weird for you to be like, oh,
you're speaking to be like me, and then suddenly we
have like almost an American accent.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Not a big deal. I think, yeah, it's just me
American globalization there you. I think that's why. But I
think we have stereotypes about Canadians.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
What are they?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
And I really don't want to say this because I
feel like you're gonna hate me. I think uk are
we think you're a bit jelus. I think there's a
bit of a reputation.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Like what do you mean juus or do you mean bendu?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
No jus.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Julus.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I think I think it is that nor and this
is not a critique. Don't come from me in the comments.
I'm really tired, please though, I think.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
That this is how we get him, We get him
tired and we start talking.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I think the impression is, you know, for example, like
in North America, tem if I'm wrong, so some times
the males will crash the the woman's juggle. Yes, yes,
So we look at things like that and that's fine,
that's your thing. I think in the UK might look
at that and be like it's a bit silly.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Oh, and is considered tacky and maybe.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Just juis is probably the best way, just like why
are they doing that? I think that loud American culture.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Oh yeah, I don't like to have fun.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah you could say yeah, like you can see that,
like we're a bit more like yeah maybe yeah, and
maybe that.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Is on some tea.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I'm gonna yeah whatever, Like I just know there's too
many upen in Canada and I can't fight you in it.
So I'm trying to be really respectful. And they run
the music scenees well, because you imagine they all just
like hate yo buddy. Beyond that beyond I thought he
was all right, yo yo. But I'm gonna go Bindi
Johol on his as he's only Doingdijael and it Bindi
(37:54):
joel I don't know about Bindi Joel.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
It's generally the only Canadian man you know.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You know, I don't know many Canadians. Part from mentioned
about twice my wedding. That's my guy. I probably do
know more Canadians.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'm just like, am I the third Canadian? You know,
third Canadian?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
So I don't know. I definitely know some Canadians. Yeah,
I should probably go to Canada and chat to people. Yeah,
five x fess have been really supportive of the content,
but no, Yeah, I think I think that's the impression
we've got so much in common, and then the bits
we don't. I think we just say it's too loud,
it's too much in our face, and we're not that's
(38:32):
not part of the English culture that we used to.
I think that's probably different. I think out, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, we're ready out of take it. But thank you
so much for making this time. I know that you
had of work.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
It's been a long day for you and all of
this is a lot of this.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
And it's just nons wwful.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, I'm going to be editing this and being this.
Why did we talk about this? Why did we spend
twenty minutes talking about.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
That you might you know, Yeah, I don't know what
I'm really You've just come off a plane. I'm nakid, but.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Thank you for coming on check me. Hopefully we'll do
something again.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah, I ever come to Canada.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah we need to do this again if you go
to Canada. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
My voice broken yet, Thank you, thank you, thank you
muscular a little bit, you know about no crazy crazy.
I don't even think it's good to be like skinned.
I just said that to Pop Pretty.
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Speaker 3 (40:33):
The same time to me. Maybe you won't tell it sober.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
So you started rapping right, and then when did you
get into the jamb and sick related context.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, so growing up we were just like your family
were saying that we were sick family. My dad's are
saying like BBG had me doing saj bart when I
was a kid, that she took took her time to
teach me read Barton Barney and stuff. And I've got
some crazy go to six in my life who have
really challenged my beliefs and stuff. So sick he was
(00:44):
always there. Luckily, Lemington's got a really good community.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Did you start with rapping first?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, I've been rapping for ages, so I was rapping, rapping, rapping.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, because you have liked music videos.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, dropped my debut EP in twenty twenty three. I
had an album out in twenty sixteen on SoundCloud with
the producer called Jackson Homer and he's my mate. We
haven't seen him for a while, but he's doing really
well now in the house kind of scene. And that
was our debut project that's in SoundCloud and I think
we've removed it now because it wasn't quite where it
should be. But I was sixteen, so you know, I
(01:16):
think he was eighteen seventeen, so that was like amateur.
It was all amateur from from I'd say twelve to
like eighteen, and I just didn't drop anything. I started
doing these freestyles on Instagram and they gained a decent
amount of traction. They were very sporadic, so once every
three four months, and people started noticing on the saying
raps whatever, whatever. And then there's a producer called as
(01:36):
Clard Origin my mate from London, East London, Newham, sho Yasmin.
He he put me in touch with Cllard Clad and
Meat dropped a debut EP. He's just dropped an album
with rumand Baines. Okay, yeah, he dropped album with him recently,
and he dropped out EP with Harry Bundle as well.
So he's mainly in the Punjabi hip hop space. But
(01:58):
we did a pure hip hop English EP. Then dropped
more music with my good friend, one of my closest
friends in the world, Luke.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
When was the transition from that to making.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
There was nosh, sorry to cut you off. There's no
transition as such. Start making content in twenty twenty two,
I think, wait.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That's so funny. I started in twenty twenty two, twenty
one around I think, yeah, wow, that's wild. Yeah, Like
it was right after COVID.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And my video is really bad. The quality was bad.
I didn't have a mic. The lighting, I didn't understand
how lighting worked. They're all still there, so people can look.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
At them, like, what made you start doing those.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Moselle. I dropped syl and I realized people didn't have
the context, so I just did a video in the
context and then thought I can do more videos. I
was actually in Italy at the time teaching kids English.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, oh were you?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, yeah, so that's that's cool. Yeah, that's what I
was doing for a few weeks, and then I just
started dropping content and naturally I realized it the gap,
and I think the still a gap.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
The stuff I do was that on Instagram or TikTok.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
TikTok, just TikTok music was on Instagram. That was on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, but you're like really consistent.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Now, yeah, how do you do that well on Instagram?
It's all my TikTok's from the last three years. So
I think I try and do about two three original
videos a week, but the rest of the time it's
daily videos from the backloun.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Now, but two three original it is also hard to do.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, I'm trying to do them quicker, get them out there,
less editing me talking to you. Like, I try and
imagine someone I like who likes my content, if they're
in front of me, what would I like to say
to them, Almost like a conversation, even though it's one way.
It's a bit weird. But yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That's a good way of looking at it. I am very,
very inconsistent compared to you. Also, I just want to
say I'm sick. I don't usually sound like that's like.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You've been traveling because you've been traveling.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yes, it is because I've been traveling. But also I
feel like I've done a little bit of a and
it sounds like I'm like indicating something. I am just
clearing my throat. Okay, how do I do it? I
feel like for me, honestly, I have so many videos
and so many topics that I've researched that I haven't
put out. I think What happens with me is that
I have a love for research. I go down rabbit holes, right,
(04:20):
and I love doing that. But then when it comes
to translating it into a video, I find it so hard.
And I am a perfectionist. I need to be quicker too.
I spend so many hours on like a two minute video.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I think part of it's like I am so interested
in so many things, and then I look back and
I'm like, I didn't need to include half of these
things because most people don't care. They're not going down
the rabbit hole that I'm going down. Yeah, right, So
I'm actually struggling with that nowadays.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
But that's a problem for you. And do you think
shortening the time from production from idea to posting is
it way you can get around that circumvented If you
have an idea, now research a tiny bit, yeah, and
then if you were to shoot it and then just
get it out there, yeah, you reckon. That would make
it easier for you to be more consistent and deliver
(05:14):
in a way that doesn't feel what sounds to be
quite drained because you're saying like hours and hours. Yeah,
if you just shorten that time, just idea, okay, cool,
let me google it, okay cool, roughly hair boom.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It would be easier if I picked a different niche.
My niche is very specific because like, for example, if
you're doing more pop culture stuff, you can just do
a Google search, right, It's pretty easy, it's pretty quick.
When you're doing the history behind a tica, it's not
really a Google search, it's more of like yeah. And
(05:46):
then I think it's because those things hold so much
value with so many different groups of people. I'm so
concerned about offending people and think you can relate to
this too. It's tough. It's just that, like when you're
making content on things that people identify with strongly, then
you have to be really careful because then they're going
to have a very intense reaction when something isn't exactly
(06:09):
how they see it. So that's why I think for me,
I can't just do a Google search. I unfortunately can't
because a lot of the stuff that I talk about
I have to dig a lot to find information on.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, it resonates with me, But your niche can always change,
and you can do so you can do those really
long researched kind of videos. Yeah, and potentially you could
then also do quicker videos where it's like this is
what my thoughts on X are, yeah, or I like
doing this or whatever it is, because I think if
you feel those videos are challenging and it seems like
(06:42):
you feel like you want to be more consistent, Yeah,
continuing to do those more research things which you seem
to enjoy it, and then doing shorter content when you're
trying to connect with the audience. So I feel like
that's quite important keeping that connection. No, I feel like
I've been.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Trying to expand a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
I don't know it's.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Obvious, but like I don't only focus on fashion as
much anymore. I do like to talk about all like
a bunch of other things, and that makes it easier
to expand. I feel like we're in the therapy. You're like,
this is like, this is like career therapy right now,
bands giving.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
No talking about software development. That's what we need to
talk about, because that's really impressive. Women in STEM but
not be women in STEM. That's good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, it's definitely a very male dominated field for sure.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Is that difficult?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Yes? Yeah, I was one of eight or ten girls
in my in my degree Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
I don't know how many people in your three.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Hundred two hundred something like that. They usually phase out,
people drop out, you know, as you yeah, yeah, I
don't know if you felt that way. But what a
degree did you do.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Is that you can do that?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
True, you can do a lot of Canadians go to
the UK just because you can do that. Because you
can't do.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That my main cousin doing that, I believe.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Anyways, not to talk about the boring stuff. Back to
what we were talking about. When did you feel like
it started taking off?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Me?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Wow, because your idea of numbers when you first start, Yeah,
thousands crazy and a thousand is crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
It is crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, you know, a thousand people watching you quite a lot.
That was happening quite quick. And then I just kept going.
And this was after university, so I had a bit
of time on my hands between jobs. That period was
really cool because it's like, oh, what can I do
or can do a video on this? Some video ideas
I'd never do now some I actually learned a lot
built that kind of trust. And I don't get loads
(08:37):
of views anyway, Like I never get a viral video
like most I got like six hundred care I think
they never go like crazy, but I think it's like
a community, almost like a niche kind of. I feel
like I know people and I see them out and
about when I'm out in jubby places or God Dada
or whatever, like I know, like, oh you're I did
a video on autism and SIKY and there's a group
(08:59):
in Lament and Spa and from they have a thing
called Inclusive r SO about bringing people who are on
the spectrum. I thought it was incredible that they had
this initiative because it's really important. So I did video
on it. And the reaction I got from the community
across the world, like people that ow, my daughter's autistic
or my son you know has special needs and stuff
(09:19):
and your video like I wish we had something like
Inclusive r in wherever, Brampton or whatever it is. So
having the ability to push and spotlight really important work
and then connect with these people like they spoke to
the people that run Inclusive, probably should do more for
them and try and work with them a bit more.
But you can really see the impact it has taken
(09:40):
off in its own way, you know, interviewing True School,
doing the listening party, Indian doctor Ram like I now
we've like connected and there's there's a I wouldn't say
like a movement, but like a group of like creative
content creators and stuff emerging for the last few years.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, escalated that. Yeah, yeah, which is amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, it feels like just Rain, Bubo and them lot
Up and bar is it. Yeah, is just like it
feels like that almost like me ramblings India and the
UK like and there's a lot of others. My brain's
just come blank. But growing just like talking to you,
we like friends now. Yeah, that's quite important. I think
(10:24):
it was all taken like we're all taken off in
a way.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's so important for kids
growing up nowadays because like you said, like we look
at just Rain and we look at rupin Ball and
Bab and all these people, and that for me definitely
had an impact on me wanting to do creative things right,
Like I'd see just Rain and Lily saying as well,
I like she doesn't.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Ak Ak Yes, Ak is a huge supporter as well.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I know he's so supportive. We saw all these people,
right and they inspired us to some degree, and like
that's so important for kids to have people that look
like the that come from where they come from, so
they can see themselves and these people and represent it
in media specifically because kids, especially nowadays, Even when we
were young, I know, but you, but I consumed a
(11:11):
lot of media as a kid, and kids nowadays consume
way more than we did, and so it's really important
for them to have people that look like them, that
come from where they come from to look.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Up to, and I think, to explore things they're interested in.
It's not the mainstreams role nor their expertise to delve into,
like you mentioned whether Dicka comes from or like Ramblings
does to look into with Java La saying d's some grant.
Why would the mainstream do? That's just not what they're
there for. It's not their role. So we create our
(11:46):
own platforms, not out of or you're not going to
have me out of like, well, we've got a niche,
so we can create these fragmented kind of niches and
then bring them, put them together and create some kind
of platform where we're all kind of learning and connecting
and trying to help push Bunjabi and sick and whatever
you're interested in further and help people find their people.
(12:09):
If that makes sense, I think it's really important.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah for sure. Okay, true School, Yeah, I think that's
something that we need context for. Yeah, because True School
is a big deal. I feel like there's a lot
of people outside the UK who don't understand how much
of a big deal he is.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I think across Bunjabi music lovers, he's just an incredible
artist who pushed the boundaries. So yeah, with his first
two albums as specialists. So it's like that Punjabi folks
sound with contemporary kind of well not even contemporary because
it's more like nineties hip hop. And there's also like
that look what people call loafire that R and B
kind of like Erka Badou kind of vibes to it.
(12:48):
His body of work with people like JK, launching JK
as an artist, then doing what I think really put
the jit cemented him as an artist, was back to
basics song got Cardgoo Strawberry or did are These are
like classic dilute songs, and then Garden's debut album I
(13:10):
Know That's Crazy, and then recently with this EP with
JK and singles between Yeah short prints, that album One
Time for Your Mind is just incredible like he is
really specialized and I was gassed just to have the
opportunity to sit down.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So you interviewed True School first, Yeah, and there was
a listening party. How did that come about?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Golf Catalyst who manages Garden and Bengals I believe still Bangals,
he is involved with that EP and he just contacted
me and said, oh do you want to do this? That?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, I noticed he followed me for a while. And
I think a lot of musicians and artists and people
behind the scenes, specially Jubby Music, are quite aware of
content creators in general. Like there's a guy just K
ninety eight from Leicester. He yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's
doing really well. Numbers are crazy, way more than me,
(14:14):
but he kind of put me onto that. This year,
I've kind of seen that, like who's been reaching out
and the opportunities and just like the love I've been
getting from artists and beyond, Like just in general, it's
interesting you don't always think the reach you have, like
who sees what?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I feel like I had a moment like that too,
because like I think right now Opunjubbe music is having
a moment. I feel like there was a wave of it.
There was a UK wave. Jazzy b.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Jazzy is a Canadian though I know that. Yeah, I know,
I know he came here and made all his hits here,
but you should you should take I mean, we'll.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Take him, trust me. But I think what I'm saying
is that like the wave happen and in the UK
right like that wave in what was it the nineties,
early two thousands, kind of like around that time. Now
there's a second one and you can really see it
because everyone and their mom is trying to be bunjubi artists.
But also there's some really good artists coming out. And
(15:16):
I feel like a Jubby Trapp has been really big
recently and that was something that was some new that
we saw coming. So like, yeah, I feel like even
when I make any video that has to do with
Bunda music, it gets a lot of attention, and I
don't I just do it because I love Aunjebby music
and like I'm obsessed with it and so are you.
But yeah, you can see the effect just because that's
(15:38):
what's the boom right now.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
You said UK, then I think then two thousand to
twenty tens India are just not their see crew like
Gary Sandhu, Jasmine Sandlers, they're missing loads of people and
even they all came out around that from India and
then we got Siddhu and kind of yeah, Canada has
(16:01):
really been doing well. There's space for everyone, I think,
and there's talent all over the world. There's talent in
random places Italy, Australia. I think biggis from Australia, from
Punjab moved to Australia. I wouldn't be surprised if Punjabia
has popped out of Columbia or something crazy, you know,
like we are everywhere and the scene is becoming more
like one. Yeah, global, definitely. Canada's really we can't deny
(16:25):
what they've there's levels they've taken it too in the
mainstream garden Ap Siddel even like Warner Bros. Is involved,
Like yeah, sure we've seen like something that we haven't
seen in terms of the mainstream putting their money into
Punjabi music. And that changes everything because now you have
an infrastructure, you've got A and RS, you've got this,
(16:47):
you've got that, and Manny Sandhu's doing a lot of
that in the UK with having that infrastructure, finding artists,
finding talent and then bringing them to the forefront and
creating a whole like infrastructure around it. And that's really
important breaking borders. That festival is infrastructure and that helps
the scene because artists needs places to perform. They need
like a ladder, small stage. Now they've got middle stage.
(17:09):
Now they're in the main stage, they're headlining. That is
like we need that progression in music and we're getting
it exactly. Yeah, shout out just everyone behind the scenes
and front, like every all of it all is the team. Everyone,
Like anyone who's doing some music contributing, shout out to
them minute because they're the reason for music is doing well.
If you've got fifty listeners, if you're practicing your room
(17:30):
and you're doing like you're contributing to this like culture.
And it's just really good to see for me because.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
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Speaker 3 (17:38):
A style.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Arrival. You're listening to ruck Us Avenue Radio available now
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Speaker 3 (17:55):
It for a no clear reason and this we be
and got that quote might.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Be like we were talking about kids and role models before.
It's so important that band music is having its moment
again because it really connects people to the language, to
the culture, to everything. Because just me on my own,
(18:22):
like so much I've learned about the language and the culture.
Like you were talking about, like, oh, your mom doesn't
understand Jimkilla lyrics and things like that same thing. Right Like,
when I'm listening to some stuff, I'm like, I don't
know what this means because I don't use that bunjebbi
in my daily language. And I've now learned so much
because of bunjebbi music, right Like I did not know
what feme was before the girl.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's a crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Example, crazy example, I know, But what I mean is that,
like it's such a tool. It's a big tool to
keep the youth connected to their culture and to their language.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
And we've seen the use particularly reconnecting with folk music.
Manik Shinda, Jimkila, you know all of those great artists
who had a lot of important messages in their song,
like sortoan stories like that from the Hindu tradition. You know,
(19:19):
Giana Mare such a Sam Buggered saying the real Like
these kind of things are immortalized. These stories are mortalizing
in Punjabi music and I've noticed that I noticed my
friends and stuff like even dartamic music, so like Marnik's
got some of the greatest Darto Mak music out. That's
why that pipeline between someone being a Punjabi music head
(19:41):
too then then them engaging quite deeply with siky as
something that really I think does happen a lot, Like
a lot of the Pungadaur heads are know they're now
on Manna Dati. They and it's not like necessarily like
all of them, of course not. But Djabi music is
a great way to spread his history and spirituality as well,
(20:02):
because it's very spiritual, like Hans Hans has got some amazing,
some amazing, amazing spiritual tunes that said Luca gunder Like,
and I mean that to say spiritual in terms of content,
but also after that, music is the unsaid. It's what
words can't express, So inherently it's spiritual in one way
or another, Like if you're singing about something that is unfathomable,
(20:26):
you can't that ogs like they express something you can't
express with words. So what we we we hear then
is spiritual to me like and and on a deep level,
that's why I thinkthan is tag and it does move
people the way it does. And obviously nothing can compare
to Gidan because it's Goodbani and it's it's it's sharp
with Guru. But it has a really special place in
(20:50):
the world. And I think as to anyone, like if
you're English, if you're Italian, your music's going to move
you because it speaks to your soul, you speak to
your mind necessarily.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Absolutely. But yeah, True School, that's great. I love Yeah,
honestly we have the same ADHD.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
We everyone says it's ADHD. I have not been diagnosed.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Man, Yeah, True School. How is that? What was that
experience like? Because you grew up with him so being
able to then, but I grew up listening.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Oh yeah, crazy. I was like, I was like, there's
a big age difference. I was like, this is because
I'm tired to take it things literally. I grew up
with True School in Derby. I'm actually I'm actually.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Like a decade listening to him and like, you know,
how how is it interviewing him? That was probably like unreal.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, I think it was the first interview I've done.
So I ran Dips Bumbra and Ricky Bandwagon, who are interviewers,
and I asked them for advice, So how do you
think I should interview? Name really helped with advice, And
they're both people I've always given me their time, so
I just appreciate that. And I tried to think and
(22:06):
not overthink, but also be khyper away in the conversation
that as you know as someone who podcasts this, there's
a conversation going on here, and I'm engaged fully in
this conversation, but you're probably, I don't know, tell me
thinking about two or three different things here, right, it's
a conversation going the right way. Well, okay, I'm listening
to what beyond saying, but okay, I can talk about
(22:28):
that mental note. Let me go circle back to that
and then okay, what we're going to go next to that.
That's what an interview is, and it's really quite intellectually
demanding as well as the research you need to do.
So it's a great experience. I'd love to do more
interviews talking to people. I think I enjoy it a lot.
I've got positive feedback, so yeah, but I'm always you know,
(22:50):
if you've got negatives, let me know nicely. Because people
be swearing. That's fine, swear at me as well. That's
a john going.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Honestly, we make content online, We're used to it where
you see people just saying whatever they want to say.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But ever in person though the person there, everyone's friendly,
everyone's really nice and personal, overly nice. I'm like, are
you being sarcastic?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
So is that the direction that you want to take?
It's like, do you have an idea? But where you
want to go? Where you want to take this?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I enjoy interviewing, enjoy making music. I'm really enjoying my
job at the moment, okay, intellectually, really stimulating. It's challenging,
I'm learning something new. I'd love being in the office
against probably a bit of ego because it comes with prestige,
but yeah, it's reality. I love making my content. I
(23:44):
make a videos. I love doing in person events. I
do job folk events where I bring people together and
try and platform people who have learned how to sing properly.
And I love all of that. So continue all of
the above. I'll started modeling recently. Bombay mummy, Yeah, I
just shout out yes she needed to sing, and I
was like yeah, I was like I can try. Yeah,
(24:07):
And then I did a bit of acting. So if
we look out for that, I mean by the time
that was probably out.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yeah. The first thing I did was with Troy Boy
and Bombay Mummy. The second one is a bit more
acting where I'm like, I'm actually really not a nice
character in it. But yeah, minute and I loved it.
It was challenging. I was out on my comfort zone
in work. I always try and say yes, someone gives
me work, try and say yes, I'll try. I'll try it.
I'll try it, I'll give my best in life. I
(24:33):
try and say yes, and I got the opportunity. Was like, yeah,
I'll do it. I loved it, and everyone I met
on they work so hard. Yeah, people work like lighting, camera, yeah, everything.
They work so hard and it was eye opening.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
No.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I actually I recently was like on some sets as well, insane,
like it takes a village, it takes a town, like
it takes takes a city, it takes a share it
takes gender gout, it takes a union state or whatever
is extreme territory. No, but it's insane what it goes
(25:10):
into a production. But what I love about being on
set is everyone's there to do the same thing, so
everybody is working towards one thing, So it's just that
feeling of community and that feeling of like doing it together.
And I think, I don't know if you can relate
to this being content creators, because like, yeah, like I'm
a software developer, a content creator, so I spend a
(25:32):
lot of time working alone to a camera alone and
being alone all that alone, and so to be able
to do it with a bunch of other people who
also have the same end goal is just such a
fun and like fulfilling feeling with other people.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I yeah, I agree. I have an appreciation I think
for people that do that work. And I message my
friend who's a model, and I'm saying to it, like, yeah,
you guys work hard and child get in. It was
like you work hard, like you're like it's difficult, and
they the models work hard, but the behind the scenes
work even harder, Like they don't get to rest. I
don't think they ate lunch and it's like a twelve
(26:11):
hour shoot. So I'd love to do more of that
because I found it fun. I thought I was nervous,
and you know, I like to be nervous now, Like
it pushes me in boundaries like this is new. There's
a new skill I'm trying to learn, trying to So
I like that. So yeah, if anyone wants me, I
don't know if it just needed the say. So she
was like, oh, that's you all do.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But you're tall. So I feel like that's good. I
feel like models need to be tall.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
But I like to perpetuate the myth. I'm five foot two,
so keep that good.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, because like for it.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I'm for it. I'm four foot three. Yeah, people actually
believe it as well.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
That's good that people don't need to know.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
They don't they know, they do know because it's true.
They believe the truth.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
What kind of advice do you feel like you'd have
for a kid who is maybe watching your videos right now?
No one wants to do that, or somebody who just
wants to pursue anything.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Creative advice is difficult. I think what I tell myself
is it's literally, like it's very generic. It's your life,
literally your life. Like people wake up like I'm I
wake up as a kid, like one day I'm going
to drive fari a ferrari go deal any I'm going
to be one.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I was a curious to thing with one would be
strong and be really strong. If I'm not taking steps
every single day to somehow get closer to that goal,
it's not happening. It's not happening. Mine's wake up. I
want to be rich. I want to do this. I
want to do that. It is literally not going to
happen unless every single day you wake up and you're
moving towards that goal. You're moving, you're thinking about, you're strategizing,
you're creating a plan to bring that into fruition. And
(27:47):
I think in the age of social media and scrolling
and everything, there's a lot of pressure and I completely
empathize with people. And this is why it's the advice
to myself nobody else. I look at myself in the mirror, say,
nobody going to sit there and go who's putting money
in beyond pocket? Who's giving beyond opportunities? Is beyond happy?
A lot of people do, they do think about me,
(28:07):
and I've got a lot of good people in my life,
but really it's me and my spiritually fulfilled I don't know,
probably got an ego problem, but am I doing what
I need to do to get where I want to
go to? That's on me, just like it's on you
put up to do what you need to do. Having
that in my head is equally freeing and equally probably
a bit of pressure, but it's just the reality that
(28:29):
is just such a right, that is just facts. Ultimately
the highest such is. It's all hook them, So nothing's
really gonn happen. But because I live in ego, like
most of the world, I believe my actions have and
the illusion of my home mare is so strong that
it might as well be true that I've got free will.
So I believe in that, and I think because it's
so strong, that illusion, that I've got to give it
(28:50):
my own. I've got goals, I've got to achieve them.
I've got to try and be a good person, you know,
hold myself because no one is going to really stop
you from being really having bad thoughts. You have to
be there for yourself. And that's like accountability, really trying
to be as accountable. Like you know, I don't ring
my parents enoughhould probably ring them more. No one's going
(29:12):
to tell me that. I've got to do that, like
I've got bib whoever it is, no need you like,
I've got to do that, like myself and no one's
going to do it for you. Like literally, that's kind
of it. Really. That's what I say to myself is
like try your best as well, be be kind to yourself. Yeah,
but find the line where it's like, nah, you could
have done better, you could have been kind of you're
a bit rude there. Journal maybe is good advice to, Yeah,
(29:35):
do your journal, try to not really good at it.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I think organizing my thoughts, organizing my life is quite important.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, yeah, it is absolutely. I think we were talking
about this earlier. Yeah, why don't brown guys go to therapy?
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, I mean I don't go to therapy. I've got
a mate, really good friend. Because it's about therapy, I
won't see who it is. He's older than me, and
he told me that he thinks everybody should go absolutely
and organize their thoughts and try to work towards something,
not always through something, but you're working towards goals in
(30:08):
your life, and having someone to talk to about that
could be helpful. On the other hand, I understand the
feelings people have where it's like there's a barrier and
it's a challenge, and why would some outside person have
a perspective of my life. It's giving up control to
an extent. It could be seen like that. I understand that,
I totally because there have been cases where therapists have
(30:34):
so much influence on their clients' lives, where they've almost
convinced them, gas lit them to believing you know certain things.
And that's really scary. And I think people read that
and they're justifiably and understandably worried about it. And I wonder.
I don't know anything about this, but from a legal perspective,
I don't know how well regulated it is across the
(30:54):
world and how well regulated is in the UK. So understand.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I feel like those are the main questions I had
for you.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Cool, Yeah, we can just yeah, go on chat to me,
Chat to me about London.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
London, it is gloomy, but I feel like that's the vibe.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But you've only ever come in winter time? Sounds like it.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I came in May last time, yes, spring, but and
now it's like fall, sounds like autumn.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
It's autumn now. For what is really funny because you know,
like I know you're a Canadian, but the impression and
the stereotype of you know, Americans, you know you're Canadian
is do you call glasses eyeglasses? Is that a thing?
Is that what you call them? Like a car?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah? You guys, you guys say lenses.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We just say glasses.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Why do you need to specify say eyeglasses?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Okay? Americans do right?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
No, no, no, I think they only say it if
someone doesn't understand, like in.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
The context, what do you sorry.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
In the context of a conversation, it is just going
to be like, yeah, I forgot to wear my glasses.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
And what about when you're on a horse? What what
do you call that a horse? When you're when you're
like on a horse going somewhere, what do you say?
What would you how would you describe that?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I don't usually get on horses.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Somebody words, there's a point to this, there's a point
to this question. You just making making it sound crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
No, I what do you mean? Like they're on a
horse and they're going somewhere. I'm on my way horse
horsing around.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
That's completely different. Americans, as far as I know, call
it horseback riding.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Oh, horseback riding. Yeah, what's wrong with horse.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Riding that you don't need to specify that you're riding
the horse on its back. Well, So that that's one
of pause. The second one is eyeglasses. What do you
say sidewalk pavement? Why do you say it's on the side,
like it's unnecessary? It's probably because and there's a few
other americanisms that I'm just like, why, what is the purpose?
(32:49):
But we think like, no, I know.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I see. This is the other thing is that, like
I've been saying this to the whole trip other people,
I noticed the American inside of me. Yeah, because like
we get really influence by America, like it's undeniable. They're
like really big, right, So it's like a lot of
what I'm used to is American technically, and so when
I when I say it, I'll be like, oh, it's
(33:11):
just the American and me, and people be like, aren't
you Canadian. I'm like, no, no, I am Canadian. But
to be Canadian, it's to be a little American.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah, I think American. And that's a whole different conversation.
But I think America has such a global monopoly on
media and culture. Yeah, that the UK probably experiences it too. Absolutely,
you guys are India probably experiences it that. Look at
rap music comes out of New York and the whole
world is just infatuated with rap, like the whole world,
(33:40):
Like people in India are rapping, like I understand it's poetry,
but they are adopting New York fashion and a cipher
system which is basically a mere fold book. Yeah, it's
it's important from the US. You see it across the
world in Africa, you see in Italy, you see it
in Russia, like Australia, like rock music is.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
From a historical perspective, it's very normal for the ruling
empire to be this influential. I just think it's so
different for America because because of technology, we have so
much access to everything that my dad uses this word
all the time. Globalization is just such an easy thing
to do. So I think they they are in a
(34:22):
unique position where they have way more influence than any
other ruling empire because they have access to technology.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, I always say super power.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah absolutely. But I was gonna ask you, what is
your perspective on Canadian Pandubby's. So this is this is
what always gets me every single time I see a
punjubby person right and in the UK. This always trips
me up, Like if I speak with them in pundubby like, yeah,
they sound normal, they sound fine. Maybe their pen dubby's
a little different, but it's usually not that big of
(34:53):
a deal. And then they'll just come up with a
Scottish accent and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
It's might, isn't it. It's the Scottish things.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
It's crazy. It's crazy to me. And I'm just like,
oh my god, I thought you were like me, but
you're not like me.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Like there's a young thing from Scotland. I think he's
a young thing. Yeah, and he just got her and
he's got Scottish accent. I'm pretty sure he's like and
I can't do Scottish as I'm gonna try. It's like
and the sangs, the sayings were fighting, I can't do it.
That's a terrible sound in northern anyway, you do it
and it sounds like braver and you really get into it,
You're like, yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
It's pretty. It's pretty cool. But yeah, I think it's
a bit trippy. I know where you know some things
and they're from Wales and they talk like different Whales.
And there's Auntie as well, and she's she's basically well,
she's born and raised in Whales, so she's going to
she's she's going to do I'm trying to do Wales,
but I'm really under pressure. So because of the pressure,
(35:53):
I'm probably not doing a good job. But she she
talks to me and she goes, would you would you
like some blood duos?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Some blood dus. I'm trying trying to even I'm trying, jus.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Do you feel the same way about Canadians, Like when
you meet them now it's weird for you to be like, oh,
you're speaking to be like me, and then suddenly we
have like almost an American accent.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Not a big deal. I think, yeah, it's just me
American globalization there you. I think that's why. But I
think we have stereotypes about Canadians.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
What are they?
Speaker 3 (36:24):
And I really don't want to say this because I
feel like you're gonna hate me. I think uk are
we think you're a bit jelus. I think there's a
bit of a reputation.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Like what do you mean juus or do you mean bendu?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
No jus.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Julus.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I think I think it is that nor and this
is not a critique. Don't come from me in the comments.
I'm really tired, please though, I think.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
That this is how we get him, We get him
tired and we start talking.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I think the impression is, you know, for example, like
in North America, tem if I'm wrong, so some times
the males will crash the the woman's juggle. Yes, yes,
So we look at things like that and that's fine,
that's your thing. I think in the UK might look
at that and be like it's a bit silly.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Oh, and is considered tacky and maybe.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Just juis is probably the best way, just like why
are they doing that? I think that loud American culture.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Oh yeah, I don't like to have fun.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah you could say yeah, like you can see that,
like we're a bit more like yeah maybe yeah, and
maybe that.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Is on some tea.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
I'm gonna yeah whatever, Like I just know there's too
many upen in Canada and I can't fight you in it.
So I'm trying to be really respectful. And they run
the music scenees well, because you imagine they all just
like hate yo buddy. Beyond that beyond I thought he
was all right, yo yo. But I'm gonna go Bindi
Johol on his as he's only Doingdijael and it Bindi
(37:54):
joel I don't know about Bindi Joel.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
It's generally the only Canadian man you know.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
You know, I don't know many Canadians. Part from mentioned
about twice my wedding. That's my guy. I probably do
know more Canadians.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I'm just like, am I the third Canadian? You know,
third Canadian?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
So I don't know. I definitely know some Canadians. Yeah,
I should probably go to Canada and chat to people. Yeah,
five x fess have been really supportive of the content,
but no, Yeah, I think I think that's the impression
we've got so much in common, and then the bits
we don't. I think we just say it's too loud,
it's too much in our face, and we're not that's
(38:32):
not part of the English culture that we used to.
I think that's probably different. I think out, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, we're ready out of take it. But thank you
so much for making this time. I know that you
had of work.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
It's been a long day for you and all of
this is a lot of this.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
And it's just nons wwful.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, I'm going to be editing this and being this.
Why did we talk about this? Why did we spend
twenty minutes talking about.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
That you might you know, Yeah, I don't know what
I'm really You've just come off a plane. I'm nakid, but.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Thank you for coming on check me. Hopefully we'll do
something again.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah, I ever come to Canada.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah we need to do this again if you go
to Canada. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
My voice broken yet, Thank you, thank you, thank you
muscular a little bit, you know about no crazy crazy.
I don't even think it's good to be like skinned.
I just said that to Pop Pretty.
Speaker 6 (39:37):
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listen to South Asian radio and podcast network, just.
Speaker 8 (40:04):
Stopped out over around You'll be mama pen name called
like a street killer.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
If you're my chiller.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
You're following the leader on the sign when it's a
bag of brown geezer's hair touching shoulders, a gift.
Speaker 8 (40:16):
From the holder's real six soldiers system from holsters, no
man takes, no wanna be the dolders, My cat slip
backs the que lack of holster that does not cover
the rope.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
But I can't be my face. I'm looking at the
whole craft.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
She said, that's the soper.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
The same time to me. Maybe you won't tell it sober.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Yeah h.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Then it's back to business.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Can't tell me that, and I'll break the hinges.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
What's a closed door to.
Speaker 8 (41:03):
A king of mystic sofi sting mixed with kiss the
Ringking Done of England.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Put a bullet in my brain and I die as
a marta. It's the last ride.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Dentty clips in the car park and I take the
trip with the flicks of the sitar.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Words on my lips at the time, but blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
H m hm.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
Hm hm h.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Y Anjie has come on beyond the balloon that we hope,
we hope, we don't. What do you know about yes? Yeah,
so you go there.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Never bend the knee that sparked me sovereignty freedom on
my lips, saying and novel comments my ship.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
They don't bother me, say it to my face to
it properly.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
Break into the industry and we're closed doors that our
mind stay.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
I break commutse the force.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
I'm on cloud now.
Speaker 10 (43:02):
Can't see this guy walk lawyer around his briand see
me and the good pushing bullets in Mamagan and I
let the thing down, patchim seize bodies and I let
it more harm, show and cut.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
I'll be winking through the scope.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
You can wear reversed, but I'm coming for the thro
best watch the throne. You're looking at the goal for
These animals can't take a joke A lion, don't concern
themselves with thoughts off a sheep. So I don't count
ship when I go to sleep, when in my reality.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
I don't need dreams.
Speaker 10 (43:36):
Got the whole family, me d and eating pillow understand
in the middle of my dance, told us from the farms,
and I tell them what bond do harm?
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Big Boy Bandy in the middle of my dans and
I don't need the bipe from the sharks. Big Boy
Bundu coming sparking through the top.
Speaker 10 (43:57):
I don't walk at you when I got the flow,
I'm a king, business like of moves, no control, CVS
your copy pasting, Big Boy Bantis flow amazing.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
I don't even flinch, I don't bother me. I make
it into mince dead in the face and I never
even wins.
Speaker 3 (44:17):
I don't even dream.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
What's the need for a pinch?
Speaker 7 (44:20):
So read down and my craft and my prince king.
He is the king, and I'm happy as the prince
can't about the West in the Clinch, can't steal me.
Speaker 9 (44:31):
I'm shooting at the Grinch, shoot back and one never
even wins Warrior Jeans and I'll never even flinch it
all Red, never even pink calm with the scope, even
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