November 28, 2025 • 60 mins
KCAA: Just Say KNOW with Maria, by Green Bee Life on Fri, 28 Nov, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, Hello again, and welcome to Just Say Now, where
we spotlight the innovators behind cannabis's newest, emergent products and
ideas at the forefront of the legal cannabis movement. Join
me on my quest to uncover everything you need to
know about cannabis. But we're never told, from what it
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is to how it works, We'll explore it all one
conversation out of time right here on KCAA Radio ten
fifty am one oh six point five FM, coming to
you from the Inland Empire and beyond. I'm your host,
Maria Calibres, and today we're gonna explore how cannabis and
fine wines are surprisingly similar yet offer uniquely different ways
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to unline and connect. We're also gonna unpack why low
dose THC products can be a game changer when it
comes to creating joyful, stress free moments, especially during special occasions.
And yes, we'll even touch on how cannabis can make
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parenting during the holidays season or any busy season a
little more knowledgeable. And here's a thought for the holidays,
what if we all just stopped apologizing so much. We're
going to discuss why owning your choices cannabis related or not,
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is the gift that's going to keep on giving. Joining
me today is Liz Rodrigo, the visionary founder of Kalie Lily,
a luxury cannabis edible line. Liz holds the unique distinction
of being part of the small yet powerful group of
female founders, representing only twenty percent of funded companies. While
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women have made historical strugg guides, much like the cannabis industry,
there's still a lot of work to do and a
long way to go. Liz is going to share her
passion for refined experiences and empowering women to enhance their
lives with cannabis un apologetically. Whether you're a consumer looking
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for answers, a canna moom looking for support, or a
budding female founder seeking inspiration, this conversation matters because it
affects us all. So get cozy, but not too cozy
if you're driving, and get ready for a lively conversation
that'll inspire you to rethink, recharge, and of course no
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cannabis and maybe even yourself a little better. Because what
we've seen take place in the cannabis industry over the
past several years has been the most rapid transformation of
any sector.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
By twenty twenty, Bank of America and Merrilynch estimate that
will grow to thirty five billion dollars, and many experts
believe it could eventually reach two hundred billion dollars each
and every year.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I just want to see one of this guy. I
can see so much fun. Your monass, your monaser.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I'm a butterfly who is gonna be gun. Taking me
a while to get it.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Had to live and cry to appreciate your life.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
And what do you give is worth it?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
When you're holding me, when you're hold me so bather
and under your skill, want to leave a mine.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I am absolutely thrilled to welcome today's guest, Liz Rodrigo,
founder of Kaliily, the luxury cannabis atible line being praised
as a new wave of low dose joy created to
help you fill your beds. Liz's journey into cannabis is
both deeply personal and profoundly inspiring. Her connection to the
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plant began during one of life's hardest moments, helping her
mother through her battle with breast cancer. As a teenager,
witnessing firsthand how cannabis eased her mother's suffering, left Liz
with an unshakable belief in its healing potential. Now a
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mother herself raising a spirited toddler, Liz has brought her
passion and expertise full circle with Kalalily. Designed with intention
and cheer, featuring low dose five millgram servings, Kalalily products
Now get this because this is what got me. Kalalily
products are crafted for those seeking to stay present and
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capable while also experiencing moments of common relaxation. Liz, I
am so excited to have you here today to share
your story and your vision for how cannabis has worked
for you and can potentially help others. Welcome to just
say no, Liz, thank.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
You so much for having me. I'm thrilled to be here.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
We're thrilled to have you. So, Liz, tell us a
little bit about yourself and Kalalily.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, I'd be happy to well.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I'm actually originally from the East Coast, taker up outside
of Boston, Massachusetts, and went to college out there. Actually
majored in psychology, which wouldn't have thought it at the time,
but actually set me up for my further careers to
really help dive into consumer insights. And while I always
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was fascinated and really enjoyed cannabis, it was never really
on my mind as a career path. And so I
went through career paths through selling luxury items at auction houses,
even working at an architecture firm, and then finally decided
I needed to grow up and get a big girl job.
So I went to business school in Virginia, and that's
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how I found my way into the wine industry. And
so I worked in brand management at a few different
wineries in California, which really led me, I think, to
my calling. I was able to get some fantastic experience,
but really am now excited and very passionate about applying
that to the cannabis space and specifically to really make
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it more approachable and empowering for female consumers.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I actually went to Bossing University undergrad and graduate. Grew
up on the East Coast too, Jersey girl, but Boston,
that's where my heart lives.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
You're also familiar with the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Winters and the East Coast female founders. There you go,
that's right in, like lying out like a lamp. All right, Well,
now we're going to spotlight Kalalily. This is this week's
featured product. And full disclosure, Kalalily has not sponsored this episode.
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They haven't paid for any advertising. This is purely because
I found the product, I met the founder, and I
want to put well meeting brands together with consumers looking
for products that are going to enhance their life, and
you should only support trustworthy brands. You should know who
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is behind the brand. How is it manufactured, So Liz
using Kalalily as our featured product, what is it on
the Kalalily packaging, ingredients, all the things that would should
draw someone to it.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean I think, like other industries or you know,
other sectors of consumption, I think, look for a brand
that resonates with you. Look for a brand that is
checking the boxes in terms of the ingredients or you know,
manufacturing practices and things like that that work for you.
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And with dosage, if you're a newer consumer, look for
a lower dose, look for something that you can cut
in half or something like that that's gonna make the
experience more enjoyable for you. And just find something that's
gonna work for you and for Catalily, Like I said,
like we're very focused on the ingredients. We're very considerate
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when we were choosing a manufacturer of who we wanted
to work with and someone that was going to produce
something really high quality but also consistent in the effects,
which is something that you know, certainly I don't I
don't think is as prevalent now, but in the past,
inconsistency with something that with a big issue for consumers
when it came to edibles.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But we're we're.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Really proud of the product that we've made and so
excited to share it with consumers in California. We've gotten
some really amazing feedback that has made me me.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And you know, blush and my heart feel really warm.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
But people have said it provides a really beautiful mouth
feel experience, the texture and the flavor that it can
be a moment of luxury and kind of creating that
ritual for someone, whether it be at the end of
the day or you know, for sleep. We have a
gummy that's really beautiful in helping you sleep and can
have the jar on your bedside table and something to
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enjoy right before you go to sleep. But the experience,
particularly in the feeling that it pro people call a
beautiful elevation, which I think is such, you know, really
captures the feeling in a really great way. And it's
a moment of intentional luxury. So allowing yourself a product
that can be a moment of self care, a moment
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of you know, enjoyment, relaxation, or connection without necessarily worrying
about waking up hungover or not getting a good night's sleep.
But it's taking care of yourself and doing so in
a way that you don't have to apologize for. Is really,
you know, everything that we're looking for here at Kowally.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yes. And I have to say I did sample the
dozing off.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I haven't taken a lot of THC or CBD gummies.
I'm not a big gummy candy fan. I this I
wouldn't even call it a gummy. I don't even know
what to call it. The mauthfeel was incredible. The moment
it touched my tongue, to the moment I bid into it.
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What do you use to sweeten it? It was just
the flavor was unparalleled.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Yeah, I mean it's just we have there is sugar
in there. It's not you know, a zero sugar element
by any means. But also important to remember the goal
is to only take you know, one or two or
half or something like that. So I had to keep
reminding myself during our you know, development stage. The goal
isn't for someone to keep popping a million of these,
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so you know, we're not too concerned with Like you
said before, it doesn't need to have artificial sweeteners or
something in there. I wanted it to be as natural
as possible.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The flavor, but what got me was the texture. My
mother in law was an assistant living a lot of
the older people did not want to try gummies. Their
daughters were trying to give them gummies because they were
afraid of the crowns in their mouth. This was not
like a gummy. It was like a jelly in the middle.
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I can't even there's nothing that I can compare it to.
There's no reference point it was. It was a very
refined experience. It was luxurious. It's five milligrams that now,
when you say low dose, my experience low dose is
for someone who's experienced in taking cannabis, five to ten
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milligrams is considered a low dose. But for a lightweight
like myself or some I know myself and how I react,
or for someone new to cannabis, you know, like you said,
you're in control. You figure out what your low dose is.
Even on your website in the tips for beginners, you
talk about starting low, low, and slow and there's no
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peer pressure. The texture, the texture in this lends itself
to making it so easy to cut in half. I
always start an edible at two and a hols half milligrams,
and it was very easy to cut us in half.
It's a beautiful experience. So tell us you have three
different ones. You have dozing Off, which is a star
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fruit flavor.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So yes.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
So we have dozing Off, which is for sleep. So
it has five milligrams of THHC and two milligrams of CBN,
which is a minor cannabinoid that really is quite helpful
in sleep quality. We have end of Day, which is
for kind of liking it to getting home from more,
kicking off your heels or shoes and pouring a glass
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of wine. It has five milligrams of THHC and five
milligrams of CBD. And then our Happy Hour, which is
my personal favorite, is exactly what it sounds like. It's
more uplifting and really wonderful at helping you kind of
connect with friends and feel more enlivened and focused. And
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it has five milligrams of THHC three million of THHCV,
which is a I'd say maybe relatively new, newly discovered
minor cannabinoid that has a beautiful effect of feeling more
energized and focused in your energy.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm very excited about the promise of THCV and weight loss,
but we need more studies. But absolutely, that's interesting. Can
you tell us a little bit about the flavors of each.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah, so we wanted to incorporate flavors that were kind
of higher end and really globally inspired. So we have
kafir lime for our happy hour, so channeling some of
those you know margarita vibes. We have elderberry for our
end of day, and then starfruit for dozing off. And
I just couldn't help myself with the you know, star
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and starfruit and sleep and nighttime.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I just you know, had to get that in there.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Hey, it's got intention behind it. That's that's substantiated for
certain Well, it's a beautiful line, it's unapologetic. So let's
just dive into giving your background in the wine industry, So, well,
how do you see the wine and cannabis as being similar.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Yeah, I mean it's absolutely. I think through this transition
I've really been able to see a lot of those similarities,
which has helped me tremendously and getting kalalily off the ground.
And I'd start by saying that I think they're both
used in a variety but very similar settings. There's so
much emotion that can be connected to it. What you
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often will turn to alcohol or cannabis when you're feeling
really happy, when you're celebrating something, or maybe when you've
had a tough day, or are you sad about something else,
you turn to both of them when you're with friends
and looking to connect. I think they can both be
very useful in all types of those settings. And they're
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also using some of my marketing language, very ego based.
With so many different brands in both industries, you're able
to gravitate and pick ones that really speak to you
who you are as a consumer and what we call
your emotional need state and what it is that you're
looking to kind of fulfill through that experience.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yes, but unlike why if you're using it for emotional
support could be a slippery slope?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Correct, Absolutely, of course, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And you're from the line industry and you're saying that, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I mean certainly, you know, working in the wine industry,
you see all of the beautiful ways that people can
interact with wine, but are certainly aware of, you know,
some of those the negative situations that can occur as well.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I've read a lot of studies and pieces in the
news about gen X moving away from alcohol and turning
toward cannabis. Do you think cannabis has the same potential
to create the same kind of social rituals we associate
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with wine? For instance, I know a lot of wine
connoisseurs who love to pair their wine with a beautiful
duck hoorage. Do you see people pairing their gummies with
a nice meal or some of the social rituals that
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are associated with wine. What's happening with cannabis?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Think you know, you're absolutely accurate in what you're saying.
But I would also add that gen X is certainly
not the only group that is behaving this way. So
I think certainly younger generations are also being very mindful
about their alcohol consumption and exploring other ways to get
the same effects of whether it be relaxation, or you know,
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uplifting and connection. But to answer your question, I think sslutely,
I think finding rituals that work for you. I mean
a lot of people will talk about their skincare rituals
or their sleep rituals to help set them up for that.
I think a lot of people now are finding their rituals,
whether replacing that you know, end of day glass of
wine with a gummy. There's also 've been a long standing,
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I feel like ritual that people will have with the
flower itself of cannabis and kind of whether it be
you know, rolling a joint or packing a bowl. There's
something that people can find very therapeutic around the rituals
setting up themselves knowing that that kind of feeling of
you know, relaxation or what have you is going to
be coming along with that ritual.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's it's exciting, and these new forms and ways of
consumption are very, very exciting. How would you say the
century experience of wine and cannabis compare. I know they
always say wine and a CANbus the nose nose so particularly,
and how they engage our taste or our smell or
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our mood. A lot of people I have been socialized
with the rituals of wine, so they know what their
limits are. Could you talk a little bit about the
onset and the duration for edibles or gummies.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think it's certainly very different
if it's when you're comparing edibles to wine, a very
different sensory experience because you're going to take you know,
maybe one or two gummies, whatever your preference is, So
the actual consumption part of it will be much shorter,
but certainly there is going to be flavor and texture
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and a mouthfeel that comes along with the eating of
the edible. But then I think the sensory experience will
be a little bit different because you wait to start
to feel it and then slowly you start to feel
it affects and see how it kind of impacts your mood, food,
your energy levels, you know, all of those sorts of things.
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So I think it is a bit of a different
sensory experience. But I think you hit on a really
good point before where there is precise dosage and so
you know kind of and are going to be able
to predict. The more you get to know a brand
and the dosage amounts, you'll be able to understand how
it is that you're going to feel and have that
kind of consistency in experience, which is nice. And it
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doesn't have the same type of snowball effect as drinking
might wear. Like you said before, one glass turns into
three and you're kind of keeping up maybe in conversation
and don't notice how much it is that you're drinking.
I think it can be a little different when it
comes to gummies because it's more predictable and reliable in
that way.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
In California, we're twenty minutes into the show and that
means it is for twenty and what better thing to
do or offer on four to twenty than to drow
up a nullge bomb. We have a little segment was
called quick Hits, and I'm going to put you on that.
See I'm going to put you on a spot for twenty.
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Can you drop a knowledge bomb for us? Can you
give us a quick hit?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Thank you? Maria?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Yeah, no, I'm so excited And in honor of this
and in honor of this season, if you're listening to
this in December during the holidays, my tip today goes
out to all the other Canna moms out there.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I don't know about you, but my to do.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
List has been growing by the minute, and my tip
for you today is just to make sure, and this
might sound like, you know, duh, please prioritize your self
care and during the holidays double up. A lot of times,
a lot of the magic falls on our shoulders, and
I don't want you to forget to make magic for yourself. So,
whether it is taking a cannabis infused bath, a regular bath,
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having a gummy or or you know, whatever you need
to do to make sure that you're checking in with
yourself and taking care of yourself this season.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Or whatever this applies throughout the.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Entire year, just know that the more that you take
care of yourself and show up for yourself, the better
and more able you'll be able to take care of
and show up and bring the magic for everyone else
around you. So ket of Mom's just take five minutes
for yourself today.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I love that, and I love that you didn't just
say to do it, and you gave them a very
doable goal that will be tolerable. Start by taking five
minutes for yourself. I love that. Liz. Could you just
share with us a couple of the things that you
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do in addition to taking five minutes for yourself.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I try to work out almost every day, even if
it's just like a fifteen minute spin class on my peloton.
I find that for me that exercise, going for a walk,
fifteen minutes, stretching, you know, whatever it is just allows
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me to kind of recenter and feel a little bit
better in my own body, in my mind, all of that.
So I exercise a lot. I take a lot of baths.
I'm a big bath person. And whether i'm i'd see
the other thing that I do that. My husband always
makes fun of me for I play a lot of
games on my iPad. So that's kind of how at
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night I will and my godmother always, you know, hits
me up with the latest and greatest games. That just
playing a game on my iPad, even if it's like
five or ten minutes, brings me joy, distracts me and
allows me to just have fun for myself for ten
to fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I love it. And it's such great advice. It's a
great tip, and it's a great knowledge bomb because what
I take away from it is I'm seeing the theme here.
I love that you have low dose gummies and your
goals are doable. We don't have to overdo it. It's
about finding balance. I love that you said fifteen minutes
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a day. Maybe I'm the peloton because when I hear
anything in excess of fifteen minutes, I just I'm I'm
out of here. It's overwhelming to me when I hear
you have to do with thirty minutes. And I love
the self soothing, I love the baths, and I'm a
candy crush girl. So maybe we will connect, and I
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will say new being new to cannabis, I'm I did
get addicted to video games, but I've never felt an
addictive reaction to cannabis. Go figure, all right.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Right, right, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Now, when we were talking about out the different ways
to consume cannabis or the different social rituals compared to wine,
wines used to wind down or try to feel a
little less social anxiety, maybe in a social setting so
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that you could connect. But it seems that cannabis, compared
to wine, is more versatile. Can you speak a little
bit about that.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Yeah, absolutely, I think you hit it on the nose
in that there's so many many different types of occasions
or different types of feelings that cannabis can elicit. And
I think for me, the biggest thing is that there's
a little bit more of a lightness or a softness
to the effect or the experience than I often get
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with alcohol. But I think you can have it when
you are looking to relax, You can have it when
you want to be creative and maybe do some kinds
of art project or if you need to be focused
and uplifted, if you're like going to be cleaning the
house or something like that. Like it can there's because
there's so many different types of strains and minor cannabinoids now,
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there's so many different types of effects that you can experience,
So I think there is a wonderful versatility in that
for cannabis. And I think the other thing is there's
not as much, or maybe no, of the pretentiousness that
can sometimes come along with wine. That's certainly not saying
that it's always there, but I do think that that's
a connotation that a lot of people associate with wine,
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and you know, you can have certainly, I've had friends
that have opened very expensive bottles around me and are describing,
you know, the smells or the aromas and the flavors
that they're getting, and I'm like, yeah, sure, m M.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Cracked leather. Yeah, I'm getting that too.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You taste the crack leather, right, you got that, Dinny? Yeah,
Oh my god. That's such an incredible point. Backtracking a
little bit, there's the versatility that the cannabis affords is
there's so many different intentions behind it, and it offers
there's something for everybody, whereas wine is usually with a
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meal or for celebration, but all the different reasons you
could the versatility of the plant in terms of taking
it medicinally or adult use, or for creativity, or for
wellness or as part of a self care routine, and
it comes in so many different forms. But yeah, that's
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really funny. I have to tell you I'm new to this.
I'm completely new to cannabis.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Well then, thank you, thank you, and please, let's if
we have any control over the way this market evolves,
let's let's try it not to have cannabis snobs.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I don't think we're ever going to have cannabis snobs.
You crack me up about the wine snobs. I could
tell you being it. Say the first thing you said
to me was welcome. It's welcoming. I walk into a dispensary.
I don't. I will. I'm not asked about did I
taste the cracked leather or did I I feel empowered?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I think you're absolutely right in that it is. And
maybe it's because we're still, you know, kind of coming
out of prohibition and there's many different people that are
trying to bring awareness and break some of the stigma
that does exist in the cannabis space. But I've found
it to be a very welcoming space, everyone being willing
to help you or introduce you to new people, or
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you know, talk to you or answer questions that you
might feel dumb asking because you're just not as in
the know.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
But I think touchline for your show, did you mean that?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
But no, I found that it's very much everyone is
focused on, you know, a rising tide lifts all boats,
and how how do we just kind of help each
other to bring out more education and talk about this
beautiful plant.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, it's very very inclusive and comes from a spirit
of just helping you have your need met. Both have
a learning curve, but you know, flavor profiles, potency effects,
How can people new to cannabis approach it with the
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same kind of curiosity and enjoyment that they do with wine.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean lean into it.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
I think having that kind of curiosity is wonderful and
there's so many amazing resources out there that I think
you can just go and educate yourself. And even it's
just looking online and just googling, you know, different types.
All almost all dispensaries, I would think have their menus online,
so you could even start exploring and then have another
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browser open to be googling you know, what is the
mean and or you know, finding the answers to that.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Kallal Lily.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
We have really tried to create a website that is
for those that are newer to cannabis. We have a
ton of resources on there, from FAQs to a glossary
and articles about you know, starting with I'm a first timer,
like what should I expect? I'd say Buddhist is another
wonderful app that you can download, and they're doing a
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lot of reviews, so if you're curious about a particular product,
you could go on there and see if there's any
kind of information that you could get to understand, you know,
how the effect might be or what the experience. And
I know that you have put together a beautiful library
of information on you know, the podcast website, so people
could check that out as well. But I think educating
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yourself but having fun with it and exploring and trying
different things and just kind of taking a.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Poll of how did that make me feel that I
like it? Should I try it again? Or should I
try something else?
Speaker 5 (30:58):
And when you're going into it, spensery bud tenders are
I've always found so helpful. There's not that intimidating factor
that you get sometimes when you're wine tasting or something
like that, that they're really curious, what is it you're
looking for? How do you feel or you know, how
are you looking to feel? They're there to help you
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and guide you towards the right product. So I'd say
don't be afraid of just going in and walking up
and saying, hey, I'm new, I don't want to I
don't know what I want. Can you help me figure
it out? And I will guarantee that they'll help you
figure that out.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
All right, Well, finishing up on what we were talking
about the importance of education, and I appreciate your shout
out for Greenby Life, but I have the shout out
to you guys. I mean I understand your sponsoring a
profile series of female bud tenders in the MG magazine
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beginning this month in December. We'll have a link for
our viewers because I think they'll be able to get
it through your press section of your website. But tell
us about this profile series on female bud tenders. Tell
us a little bit about that.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Oh, thank you so much for asking about it. Yeah,
we've been so excited to work with MG magazine and
we are profiling female bud tenders in the southern California area,
which has been wonderful, you know, to meet them, but
also hear their stories about what got them into the industry,
what they enjoy about it, how they enjoy interacting with consumers,
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particularly female consumers, and you know what it is that
they've been learning and noticing throughout their time.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
So it's been wonderful.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
To both highlight them and draw attention to the work
that they're doing, because like all industries, I think the
cannabis space needs more of that.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Hey, it does, And for consumers out there, you really
want to know who behind the product you're supporting. And
I can't say enough about Kalally and about Liz, who
really tries to pay a forward. She's got a tough
road to hoe. Any well meaning brand trying to pave
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the way while there's federal inaction and a patchwork of
inconsistent laws. It's a challenge. So we're going to as
an industry succeed together or fail individually. And Liz, you know, Kalalily,
(33:37):
it's a beautiful brand that you have and a beautiful
mission that you're on. And I love that you guys
are sponsoring to profile female but tenders. This is it's
a medicine. It's a refined experience. A plant is multifaceted.
It should not be marginalized. So I'm going to make
a little little plug to de sc not reschedule it.
(34:03):
Before legalization in California, women were exploited. It would be
the girls in the bikinis on Venice Beach bringing you
into a funky looking uh booth where there's a doctor
to give you your medical marijuana cart. It's a serious lant.
It improves people's lives, the genies out of the bottle,
(34:25):
and so women need to be empowered and not exploited
the way they were. So I love that you're profiling
it's you have a new wave of cannabis in your
innovative product, but there's a new wave of butt tenders,
and there's a new wave of respect for the women
going into those roles. Liz, I agree with you about
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holiday stress. For me, it often feels like I'm trying
to run a marathon and flipflops, and a great deal
of the season's magic, as you mentioned, and falls to
all of our mothers and wives out there. Let's face it,
you know, moms, they make it happen, and they make
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the moments magical, but it shouldn't be at a great
cost to them, and nobody wants that. So how can
low dose THC products help create a more relaxed and
balanced holiday mood or mood in general? Why load dose
THC dummies?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Well, first, I just want to like, I love that
description of running a marathon and flip flops, because that's
sometimes what it feels like. I mean, the holidays are
a magical time, but they also come, especially for moms
or parents of all kinds, it comes a lot of
pressure and a long to do list, as to many
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other times throughout the year as well. But like you said,
I think there's a lot that falls on our shoulders
to take care of this time of year. And I
think low dose TC products can be such a beautiful
pairing because, like I said earlier in the podcast, they
they can add a feeling of lightness or softness around
some of the stress that tends to come, you know,
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with life anytime of the year, but particularly the holidays.
And I think there's many different ways that you can
integrate them into the life, you know, the day to day.
So you could have one before setting off to cook
a big family meal. You could have one before doing
a big you know, gift wrapping marathon and put on
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some of your favorite music. But I think that there's
a way that you still feel in control while also
just having like the softening of the edges or a
lift of some of that stress that you can kind
of feel that, you know, not everything's going to get
done and I have to go run and do this.
It just makes you feel like, yeah, I got this,
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and I'm gonna have fun while I do it.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
So I think that it's a beautiful way, having load
edibles to.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Still tackle everything on your list, but do it with
a just a different feeling and a like a more
of a lightness and a sense of if I'm gonna
have all of this to do, I can at least
do it while I'm feeling better and have fun with it.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I love that you're crushing the stigma because it's it's
it's prevalent, and many people outside of the cannabis community
still believe it's about chasing a high, and you know,
I'm not. There's nothing wrong with that. There's a time
and place for everything. But like wine, it's it's not
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you can't reduce it to spring break, drinking out of
a box, waking up on the side of a street
on a curb. I don't mean to bash spring break,
but that that is. I mean, anything could be used
responsibly or not, and just because in cases where is
misused it Yeah, I love this conversation and I love
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speaking with you, and I love that you're bringing the
potential for low dose And as you said, it's a
versatile plant. There's so many different uses right and applications,
and it's not just about you know, getting completely and
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totally disoriented. So it's a.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Huge thing to point out because I think that there's
a concern or a stigma that if I use cannabis,
I'm going to be out of control or I'm going
to be so high that I can't get off the couch.
And I think that it's really important for people to
know that that low DOS gummies aren't going to make
you feel that way. You're still going to be completely
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in control, and you can start off with just like
a nibble of a gummy and take it from there
as your comfort level allows. But you can make it
work for you. And by using it isn't mean you're
automatically going to subscribe to you a cannabis culture that
doesn't work for you. It's still you, it's still your lifestyle.
It's still your culture, and you're just integrating it into
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it as you would whine or a cocktail or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Amen. I mean the first time I spoke to you,
I was so when you explained it as your meth.
This product is for people seeking to stay present. I
said it in my opening because my favorite thing about
your brand. It's for people who are looking to stay
present and capable while experiencing a moment of calm and relaxation.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I think it also brings about a
more openness, like there's when you're connecting with other people,
whether it be family or friends. I think that there's
there's just this different feeling that you get. I've never
seen someone you know, using cannabis get really angry or
really violent.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
I have seen that people that are drinking. So just
just something to think about.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
So it adds a bit of softness, which without intoxicating
you making you cognitively impaired, just make a little bit
of softness. Just some people can use a fine wine
for that or sharnanay. I've heard the expression chardonnay moms.
They don't suffer the same stigma that cannabis moms or
(40:34):
up against. Speaking of moms and dads, parents who consume cannabis,
particularly in states where it's not legal, they faceless. I'm
sure you could tell me more about this societal and
legal challenges. So have you experienced personally the stigma or
as a parent using cannabis and Addie, I hope to
(40:55):
challenge the stigma through Kaliily.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Yeah. I mean, I'm very to live in California, so
a state where it is recreationally legal, So I'm you know,
I certainly don't have any stories that I'm sure parents
in you know, in other states would have around the
stigma or the difficulty in getting it. But for me,
(41:19):
I think it's really challenging and quite frustrating when I
see examples or see it negatively referenced in all types
of media, especially you know, movies or TV shows when drinking,
even binge drinking is celebrated. You know, the memes around
(41:39):
a shardinay mom or my mom needs a margarita are
all funny.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
I love at them as well.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
And yet having a low dough edible is you know,
criticized or could threaten you know, you taking care.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Of your child. Well, to me, that's just comical.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
But I think it's very important to work against that
stigma and bring about education. Having podcasts like this and
talking about the effects and how you feel, and me
sharing real life examples of how I incorporate cannabis into
my life while still being a present and in control parent,
(42:18):
I think is really important. And at Kalily, we're working
on a couple of different fronts to try to do that.
You know, first, like I mentioned before, education and all
of the resources that we have on our website talking
about low dose, talking about how to be a beginner,
how to find cannabis, in a way that will work
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for you, and empowering women to do that exploration and
have fun with it. I think emphasizing the fact that
low dose is just that it is a low dose,
and it's almost equivalent to having half of a glass
to a glass of wine, you know, in kind of
that type of effect of that you're going to feel.
And so I think doing that, we also share a
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lot of stories in our blogs and articles from women
and how they incorporate cannabis into their lifestyle. So I
think talking about that and sharing stories will allow other
women to kind of see themselves in that scenario and
maybe view it in a different light. And two, packaging,
you know, will be People still judge a book by
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its cover, people still judge a bottle of wine by
its label. And so bringing a brand to the marketplace
that looks and feels elevated and has a beautiful, you
know package to it with a glass jar inside, we're
creating an experience, and we're creating a luxury experience and
something that can feel beautiful and elevated in someone's life,
(43:46):
and you know, mirror that of other products that are
already in their repertoire. I think also having that with
the brand works to break some of that stigma as well.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
So yeah, I agree with everything you said, and I
applaud you your brave, your brave, your braves come on
the podcast. Yes you're lucky to live in California. But
we can't forget guys, it's still federally illegal. Now hopefully
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it will be rescheduled. Needs to be descheduled because there
are legal challenges and moms do face in states where
it's not legal. There's risk of child custody issues, criminal penalties,
employment risks, have to worry about child protective services. This
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is real, guys, in states where it's not legal, and
this is why it affects all of us. Liz, so
many things I love about Kllerily, the brand, the mission, yourself.
But I have to tell you I love that it
was founded on the idea of liv being unapologetically. Why
(45:04):
do you think it's important for women everyone to stop
apologizing for their choices, especially especially when it comes to cannabis.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
I mean so many reasons.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
I mean, I think I read that women ten or
women apologize about twenty percent more than men do, and
so I think in.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Not me, not me, I'm a Kalily girl, not sorry,
not sorry guys.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
By no, we're turning sorry into it into a curse word.
But I think in general, I think women should just
try to take stock and notice when you're apologizing how
much you're apologizing. Just ask yourself, is that something I
really needed to apologize for? You know, like do you
see your your male colleagues apologizing for things like that?
(45:58):
Because I do think that it matters, and I think
apologizing less will have an effect of women feeling more
confident and more empowered and showing up and feeling the
right to take up space or having a voice or
questioning decisions that you see being made. So I just
think that when and especially when it comes to cannabis,
(46:19):
apologizing less for using it will really work against distigmatizing
it and showing that it is whether it be for
you know, medicinal use or recreational you know, just having
fun will show that it can be a part of
your daily life like alcohol, like food, like you know,
the medicine that you're taking, and just showing that it
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is an ingredient in your lifestyle. We like to say
at Kalalily that we make edibles that are for any
reason or no reason at all.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I love it. I love it for any reason or
no reason at all.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
I find when you're apologizing for things, it will internalize it,
and it makes you question your own behavior or choices
or opinions when you shouldn't, you know, And I think
especially we as women, tend to do that.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
So just being more mindful.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
Of it and calling yourself on it when you see
doing it, or calling you know, a good girlfriend on
it and saying you don't need to apologize for that,
why are you apologizing for that? And kind of keeping
each other in check could be really helpful.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
You know, ladies, It's it's not obvious, but if you
think about it, it undermines confidence and the authenticity in
our lives. It's it's so true, but it's knee jerk.
It's hardwired, and it's something we really have to pay
attention to. But we are conditioned, We are socialized and conditioned,
(47:44):
especially as women, and hey, it's a female plant. So
how do you think we can shift the narrative and
normalize cannabis as a valid lifestyle choice, particularly for women
and parents, aside from stop apologizing for it?
Speaker 5 (48:04):
I mean, I think podcasts like this are doing a
beautiful job and conversations like this, and just seeing more
examples on you know, the media that people consume. So
whether movies, t fee social media, I think I see
it starting for sure on social media, people getting out
there and and living unapologetically and saying, yeah, I am
(48:28):
a cand of mom, and yeah I'm gonna have a gummy,
you know at night or when I'm hanging out with
my kids, because guess what, I can do that and
still be present and play with them and maybe even
have more fun with them. So I think it's just
showing examples around that and and highlighting all the beautiful
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resources that are available for people that you know, maybe
are curious but don't know enough or want to educate themselves.
So I think it's just doing doing more of this.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Well, you make a fantastic point. I mean, I just
cannabis hasn't crossed the main stream divide in terms of media.
It's either sensationalized and they like to tell these crazy
horror stories or they just don't talk about it because
(49:23):
the advertising dollars aren't there yet because of the legal landscape.
So what you said is absolutely spot on. All right, Well,
we've been dispelling a lot of myths around the stigma
and trying to crush the stigma, which is a perfect
segue into our nippet in the bud segment. So let's
(49:45):
knit this in the bud Liz, truth or fiction. All
gummies are created equal fiction.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
I was so excited to come on and be able
to talk about this because, in no sense are all
of the gummies are edibles out there created equal. And
I think it's so important for consumers to know that
and to know what to look for. There's so many
people that are being more conscious in the choices that
they're making about what food they buy, what produce they're
(50:19):
looking at, what kind of wine they're doing. They're being
very as they should, looking at the ingredients and the
sourcing and where things are coming from. But I want
you to apply that to cannabis as well. And I
think a lot of times some of the big brands
that are out there are mass producing these gummies and
they're using cannabis inputs that are distilate, but they're made
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with the use of solvents, and so the gummies that
you're getting do still have trace amounts of those solvents,
you know, like buttane in there, and so knowing that
and just having more of an understanding of what broad
market gummies are made of will help you make purposeful choices.
And you know, looking for us at Kalalily, of course,
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I can really only speak specifically to what we're doing.
We were very particular about the inputs that we were using.
We use a solventless live rosin that is made by
our manufacturer with buds that have been flash frozen and
sent down to their facility. Is actually made using an
ice water bath, so really can't get more natural than that,
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and we use all natural ingredients and flavorings and nothing
that we don't need to. We had a very minimalist
approach when we were doing the formulation of our gummies,
and so I think just being mindful of that as
a consumer and doing your homework and looking online into
what's going into this and is it okay with me
or not? And it might be and that's completely fine,
(51:44):
But just knowing that like other areas of your life
where you are maybe double clicking and looking into things
a little bit more, and want you to apply that
to your cannabis as.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Well, absolutely, and your rods and his sun grown that's correct.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
So the bud is coming from Sungrown farms across California,
and it's then when it's harvested, it's actually flash frozen
and transported down to our manufacture where they're making their
own solventless rosin in house.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
And can you explain what rosin is?
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (52:18):
So, I mean there's many different ways of taking the
cannabis plant and kind of distilling it down into the
material that you're going to use in different edibles. There's distolate,
there's resin, and then there's rosin, And it's really the
manner in which you treat it that determines the name.
(52:40):
And we specifically wanted to use rosin because it doesn't
use solvents in its extraction process, so it's we use
an ice water bath and kind of agitating and shaking
the plant to get the materials off of it, versus
using something like utane.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
WHOA, So, do dissolate some resin as an extra action method?
Includes sometimes solvents.
Speaker 5 (53:03):
Yes, many times they do. And so the gummies on
the market will have, you know, mind you very small
and trace amounts, but they are present.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
Okay, But that's also why what I'm seeing on your packaging.
Is it's triple lab tested correct? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Our manufacturer helps with the lab testing that is. I
mean part of being a legal cannabis company in California
is following all of the rules and being really careful
around you know, the ingredients, the manner in which it's made,
and making sure that everything is lab tested so that
before it goes to the market, we are sure about
the the dosage, you know, the cannabinoid presence, and that
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everything has been you know, triple check to make sure
that it's safe for consumer use.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Right, and you want those lab reports guys to be
able to verify the purity and the potency. So so
what are the best ways just what are some of
the best ways for consumers to advocate for themselves in
the cannabis market so that we can have more well
meaning brands and female founders.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Always want more female founders and cannabis but any industry.
But I think the ways that consumers can advocate for
themselves is doing their own homework, you know, doing research themselves,
whether it be on your website, my website or all
of the other wonderful resources that are out there, and
asking questions, you know, not being afraid to go in
(54:35):
and ask bud tenders about certain products or you know, strains,
what have you, but just feeling more empowered and confident
and taking it into their own hands to make the
experience what they want it to be.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
That's right, and that's why the profile that you're sponsoring
an MG magazine about female budtenders very very important. And
consider the source. You must consider your source. But it
all starts with going full circle here, Liz, being unapologetic,
so that you have the confidence and step into your
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right to demand accurate information to make the best choices
for yourself and your family. So hey, knowledge is power.
Always read the labels, research claims, and support brands that
prioritize transparency and compliance. I think, Liz, before we close,
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I just want to take a moment to give you
a big thank you for all that you're doing to
move the industry forward, to move female founders forward, and
to help make people be able to tolerate life a
little easier and stay present for it.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
Well, thank you so much, Maria. It's you know that
it means so much coming from you. It's truly been
my pleasure to talk with you about the brand and
about how more women can make cannabis work for them.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
Yes and yeah. I just love how you are out
there sharing your story which is so inspiring, and from
exploring the parallels between wine and cannabis, learning how low
dose THC can transform the stress of the holiday season
or any season that's overwhelming, into moments of calm. Liz
(56:38):
has truly shown us the power of living unapologetically and
embracing cannabis with confidence. As we head into the holiday season,
Let's take her advice to heart. Guys, whether it's finding balance,
staying present, or letting go of unnecessary apologies, we all
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we all deserve to approach life and cannabis with intention
and joy. Next week, we're going to dive into an
equally fascinating topic with our guests Seth Rutherford from two
five to three Pharmacy. This is massachusetts top cannabis dispensary
and the only dispensary in the United States that offers
(57:22):
Ohsher cannabis. How's that live? Ohsher Cannabis? Is that a
new one?
Speaker 4 (57:27):
I love it? I can't wait to tune in a
great so.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Whether you are new to cannabis or a seasoned enthusiast,
this is a conversation you're not gonna want to miss. Hey, guys,
your feedback is invaluable, so please don't hesitate to reach
out with questions, comments, and ideas for topics you'd like
us to explore. You could connect with me on social
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(57:51):
at greenbey life dot com and Liz for people to
find out more about Kalalily, I know they can visit
kalily com. That's Calililycanna dot com. Or how can they
connect to you on social media?
Speaker 4 (58:08):
Yeah? Absolutely so.
Speaker 5 (58:09):
You can find us on Instagram at Kaliily Underscore HQ
and you can also find us on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Oh fantastic. Well, thank you for joining me today. Everyone
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Hello, Hello again, and welcome to Just Say Now, where
we spotlight the innovators behind cannabis's newest, emergent products and
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is to how it works, We'll explore it all one
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Maria Calibres, and today we're gonna explore how cannabis and
fine wines are surprisingly similar yet offer uniquely different ways
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to unline and connect. We're also gonna unpack why low
dose THC products can be a game changer when it
comes to creating joyful, stress free moments, especially during special occasions.
And yes, we'll even touch on how cannabis can make
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parenting during the holidays season or any busy season a
little more knowledgeable. And here's a thought for the holidays,
what if we all just stopped apologizing so much. We're
going to discuss why owning your choices cannabis related or not,
(01:34):
is the gift that's going to keep on giving. Joining
me today is Liz Rodrigo, the visionary founder of Kalie Lily,
a luxury cannabis edible line. Liz holds the unique distinction
of being part of the small yet powerful group of
female founders, representing only twenty percent of funded companies. While
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women have made historical strugg guides, much like the cannabis industry,
there's still a lot of work to do and a
long way to go. Liz is going to share her
passion for refined experiences and empowering women to enhance their
lives with cannabis un apologetically. Whether you're a consumer looking
(02:18):
for answers, a canna moom looking for support, or a
budding female founder seeking inspiration, this conversation matters because it
affects us all. So get cozy, but not too cozy
if you're driving, and get ready for a lively conversation
that'll inspire you to rethink, recharge, and of course no
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cannabis and maybe even yourself a little better. Because what
we've seen take place in the cannabis industry over the
past several years has been the most rapid transformation of
any sector.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
By twenty twenty, Bank of America and Merrilynch estimate that
will grow to thirty five billion dollars, and many experts
believe it could eventually reach two hundred billion dollars each
and every year.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
I just want to see one of this guy. I
can see so much fun. Your monass, your monaser.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I'm a butterfly who is gonna be gun. Taking me
a while to get it.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Had to live and cry to appreciate your life.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
And what do you give is worth it?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
When you're holding me, when you're hold me so bather
and under your skill, want to leave a mine.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I am absolutely thrilled to welcome today's guest, Liz Rodrigo,
founder of Kaliily, the luxury cannabis atible line being praised
as a new wave of low dose joy created to
help you fill your beds. Liz's journey into cannabis is
both deeply personal and profoundly inspiring. Her connection to the
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plant began during one of life's hardest moments, helping her
mother through her battle with breast cancer. As a teenager,
witnessing firsthand how cannabis eased her mother's suffering, left Liz
with an unshakable belief in its healing potential. Now a
(04:48):
mother herself raising a spirited toddler, Liz has brought her
passion and expertise full circle with Kalalily. Designed with intention
and cheer, featuring low dose five millgram servings, Kalalily products
Now get this because this is what got me. Kalalily
products are crafted for those seeking to stay present and
(05:11):
capable while also experiencing moments of common relaxation. Liz, I
am so excited to have you here today to share
your story and your vision for how cannabis has worked
for you and can potentially help others. Welcome to just
say no, Liz, thank.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
You so much for having me. I'm thrilled to be here.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
We're thrilled to have you. So, Liz, tell us a
little bit about yourself and Kalalily.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, I'd be happy to well.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I'm actually originally from the East Coast, taker up outside
of Boston, Massachusetts, and went to college out there. Actually
majored in psychology, which wouldn't have thought it at the time,
but actually set me up for my further careers to
really help dive into consumer insights. And while I always
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was fascinated and really enjoyed cannabis, it was never really
on my mind as a career path. And so I
went through career paths through selling luxury items at auction houses,
even working at an architecture firm, and then finally decided
I needed to grow up and get a big girl job.
So I went to business school in Virginia, and that's
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how I found my way into the wine industry. And
so I worked in brand management at a few different
wineries in California, which really led me, I think, to
my calling. I was able to get some fantastic experience,
but really am now excited and very passionate about applying
that to the cannabis space and specifically to really make
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it more approachable and empowering for female consumers.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I actually went to Bossing University undergrad and graduate. Grew
up on the East Coast too, Jersey girl, but Boston,
that's where my heart lives.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
You're also familiar with the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Winters and the East Coast female founders. There you go,
that's right in, like lying out like a lamp. All right, Well,
now we're going to spotlight Kalalily. This is this week's
featured product. And full disclosure, Kalalily has not sponsored this episode.
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They haven't paid for any advertising. This is purely because
I found the product, I met the founder, and I
want to put well meeting brands together with consumers looking
for products that are going to enhance their life, and
you should only support trustworthy brands. You should know who
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is behind the brand. How is it manufactured, So Liz
using Kalalily as our featured product, what is it on
the Kalalily packaging, ingredients, all the things that would should
draw someone to it.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean I think, like other industries or you know,
other sectors of consumption, I think, look for a brand
that resonates with you. Look for a brand that is
checking the boxes in terms of the ingredients or you know,
manufacturing practices and things like that that work for you.
(08:29):
And with dosage, if you're a newer consumer, look for
a lower dose, look for something that you can cut
in half or something like that that's gonna make the
experience more enjoyable for you. And just find something that's
gonna work for you and for Catalily, Like I said,
like we're very focused on the ingredients. We're very considerate
(08:54):
when we were choosing a manufacturer of who we wanted
to work with and someone that was going to produce
something really high quality but also consistent in the effects,
which is something that you know, certainly I don't I
don't think is as prevalent now, but in the past,
inconsistency with something that with a big issue for consumers
when it came to edibles.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
But we're we're.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Really proud of the product that we've made and so
excited to share it with consumers in California. We've gotten
some really amazing feedback that has made me me.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And you know, blush and my heart feel really warm.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
But people have said it provides a really beautiful mouth
feel experience, the texture and the flavor that it can
be a moment of luxury and kind of creating that
ritual for someone, whether it be at the end of
the day or you know, for sleep. We have a
gummy that's really beautiful in helping you sleep and can
have the jar on your bedside table and something to
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enjoy right before you go to sleep. But the experience,
particularly in the feeling that it pro people call a
beautiful elevation, which I think is such, you know, really
captures the feeling in a really great way. And it's
a moment of intentional luxury. So allowing yourself a product
that can be a moment of self care, a moment
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of you know, enjoyment, relaxation, or connection without necessarily worrying
about waking up hungover or not getting a good night's sleep.
But it's taking care of yourself and doing so in
a way that you don't have to apologize for. Is really,
you know, everything that we're looking for here at Kowally.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yes. And I have to say I did sample the
dozing off.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I haven't taken a lot of THC or CBD gummies.
I'm not a big gummy candy fan. I this I
wouldn't even call it a gummy. I don't even know
what to call it. The mauthfeel was incredible. The moment
it touched my tongue, to the moment I bid into it.
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What do you use to sweeten it? It was just
the flavor was unparalleled.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Yeah, I mean it's just we have there is sugar
in there. It's not you know, a zero sugar element
by any means. But also important to remember the goal
is to only take you know, one or two or
half or something like that. So I had to keep
reminding myself during our you know, development stage. The goal
isn't for someone to keep popping a million of these,
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so you know, we're not too concerned with Like you
said before, it doesn't need to have artificial sweeteners or
something in there. I wanted it to be as natural
as possible.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The flavor, but what got me was the texture. My
mother in law was an assistant living a lot of
the older people did not want to try gummies. Their
daughters were trying to give them gummies because they were
afraid of the crowns in their mouth. This was not
like a gummy. It was like a jelly in the middle.
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I can't even there's nothing that I can compare it to.
There's no reference point it was. It was a very
refined experience. It was luxurious. It's five milligrams that now,
when you say low dose, my experience low dose is
for someone who's experienced in taking cannabis, five to ten
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milligrams is considered a low dose. But for a lightweight
like myself or some I know myself and how I react,
or for someone new to cannabis, you know, like you said,
you're in control. You figure out what your low dose is.
Even on your website in the tips for beginners, you
talk about starting low, low, and slow and there's no
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peer pressure. The texture, the texture in this lends itself
to making it so easy to cut in half. I
always start an edible at two and a hols half milligrams,
and it was very easy to cut us in half.
It's a beautiful experience. So tell us you have three
different ones. You have dozing Off, which is a star
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fruit flavor.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So yes.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
So we have dozing Off, which is for sleep. So
it has five milligrams of THHC and two milligrams of CBN,
which is a minor cannabinoid that really is quite helpful
in sleep quality. We have end of Day, which is
for kind of liking it to getting home from more,
kicking off your heels or shoes and pouring a glass
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of wine. It has five milligrams of THHC and five
milligrams of CBD. And then our Happy Hour, which is
my personal favorite, is exactly what it sounds like. It's
more uplifting and really wonderful at helping you kind of
connect with friends and feel more enlivened and focused. And
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it has five milligrams of THHC three million of THHCV,
which is a I'd say maybe relatively new, newly discovered
minor cannabinoid that has a beautiful effect of feeling more
energized and focused in your energy.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm very excited about the promise of THCV and weight loss,
but we need more studies. But absolutely, that's interesting. Can
you tell us a little bit about the flavors of each.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah, so we wanted to incorporate flavors that were kind
of higher end and really globally inspired. So we have
kafir lime for our happy hour, so channeling some of
those you know margarita vibes. We have elderberry for our
end of day, and then starfruit for dozing off. And
I just couldn't help myself with the you know, star
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and starfruit and sleep and nighttime.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
I just you know, had to get that in there.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Hey, it's got intention behind it. That's that's substantiated for
certain Well, it's a beautiful line, it's unapologetic. So let's
just dive into giving your background in the wine industry, So, well,
how do you see the wine and cannabis as being similar.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Yeah, I mean it's absolutely. I think through this transition
I've really been able to see a lot of those similarities,
which has helped me tremendously and getting kalalily off the ground.
And I'd start by saying that I think they're both
used in a variety but very similar settings. There's so
much emotion that can be connected to it. What you
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often will turn to alcohol or cannabis when you're feeling
really happy, when you're celebrating something, or maybe when you've
had a tough day, or are you sad about something else,
you turn to both of them when you're with friends
and looking to connect. I think they can both be
very useful in all types of those settings. And they're
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also using some of my marketing language, very ego based.
With so many different brands in both industries, you're able
to gravitate and pick ones that really speak to you
who you are as a consumer and what we call
your emotional need state and what it is that you're
looking to kind of fulfill through that experience.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yes, but unlike why if you're using it for emotional
support could be a slippery slope?
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Correct, Absolutely, of course, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And you're from the line industry and you're saying that, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I mean certainly, you know, working in the wine industry,
you see all of the beautiful ways that people can
interact with wine, but are certainly aware of, you know,
some of those the negative situations that can occur as well.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I've read a lot of studies and pieces in the
news about gen X moving away from alcohol and turning
toward cannabis. Do you think cannabis has the same potential
to create the same kind of social rituals we associate
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with wine? For instance, I know a lot of wine
connoisseurs who love to pair their wine with a beautiful
duck hoorage. Do you see people pairing their gummies with
a nice meal or some of the social rituals that
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are associated with wine. What's happening with cannabis?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Think you know, you're absolutely accurate in what you're saying.
But I would also add that gen X is certainly
not the only group that is behaving this way. So
I think certainly younger generations are also being very mindful
about their alcohol consumption and exploring other ways to get
the same effects of whether it be relaxation, or you know,
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uplifting and connection. But to answer your question, I think sslutely,
I think finding rituals that work for you. I mean
a lot of people will talk about their skincare rituals
or their sleep rituals to help set them up for that.
I think a lot of people now are finding their rituals,
whether replacing that you know, end of day glass of
wine with a gummy. There's also 've been a long standing,
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I feel like ritual that people will have with the
flower itself of cannabis and kind of whether it be
you know, rolling a joint or packing a bowl. There's
something that people can find very therapeutic around the rituals
setting up themselves knowing that that kind of feeling of
you know, relaxation or what have you is going to
be coming along with that ritual.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's it's exciting, and these new forms and ways of
consumption are very, very exciting. How would you say the
century experience of wine and cannabis compare. I know they
always say wine and a CANbus the nose nose so particularly,
and how they engage our taste or our smell or
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our mood. A lot of people I have been socialized
with the rituals of wine, so they know what their
limits are. Could you talk a little bit about the
onset and the duration for edibles or gummies.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think it's certainly very different
if it's when you're comparing edibles to wine, a very
different sensory experience because you're going to take you know,
maybe one or two gummies, whatever your preference is, So
the actual consumption part of it will be much shorter,
but certainly there is going to be flavor and texture
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and a mouthfeel that comes along with the eating of
the edible. But then I think the sensory experience will
be a little bit different because you wait to start
to feel it and then slowly you start to feel
it affects and see how it kind of impacts your mood, food,
your energy levels, you know, all of those sorts of things.
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So I think it is a bit of a different
sensory experience. But I think you hit on a really
good point before where there is precise dosage and so
you know kind of and are going to be able
to predict. The more you get to know a brand
and the dosage amounts, you'll be able to understand how
it is that you're going to feel and have that
kind of consistency in experience, which is nice. And it
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doesn't have the same type of snowball effect as drinking
might wear. Like you said before, one glass turns into
three and you're kind of keeping up maybe in conversation
and don't notice how much it is that you're drinking.
I think it can be a little different when it
comes to gummies because it's more predictable and reliable in
that way.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
In California, we're twenty minutes into the show and that
means it is for twenty and what better thing to
do or offer on four to twenty than to drow
up a nullge bomb. We have a little segment was
called quick Hits, and I'm going to put you on that.
See I'm going to put you on a spot for twenty.
(21:10):
Can you drop a knowledge bomb for us? Can you
give us a quick hit?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Thank you? Maria?
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Yeah, no, I'm so excited And in honor of this
and in honor of this season, if you're listening to
this in December during the holidays, my tip today goes
out to all the other Canna moms out there.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
I don't know about you, but my to do.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
List has been growing by the minute, and my tip
for you today is just to make sure, and this
might sound like, you know, duh, please prioritize your self
care and during the holidays double up. A lot of times,
a lot of the magic falls on our shoulders, and
I don't want you to forget to make magic for yourself. So,
whether it is taking a cannabis infused bath, a regular bath,
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having a gummy or or you know, whatever you need
to do to make sure that you're checking in with
yourself and taking care of yourself this season.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Or whatever this applies throughout the.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Entire year, just know that the more that you take
care of yourself and show up for yourself, the better
and more able you'll be able to take care of
and show up and bring the magic for everyone else
around you. So ket of Mom's just take five minutes
for yourself today.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I love that, and I love that you didn't just
say to do it, and you gave them a very
doable goal that will be tolerable. Start by taking five
minutes for yourself. I love that. Liz. Could you just
share with us a couple of the things that you
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do in addition to taking five minutes for yourself.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
I try to work out almost every day, even if
it's just like a fifteen minute spin class on my peloton.
I find that for me that exercise, going for a walk,
fifteen minutes, stretching, you know, whatever it is just allows
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me to kind of recenter and feel a little bit
better in my own body, in my mind, all of that.
So I exercise a lot. I take a lot of baths.
I'm a big bath person. And whether i'm i'd see
the other thing that I do that. My husband always
makes fun of me for I play a lot of
games on my iPad. So that's kind of how at
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night I will and my godmother always, you know, hits
me up with the latest and greatest games. That just
playing a game on my iPad, even if it's like
five or ten minutes, brings me joy, distracts me and
allows me to just have fun for myself for ten
to fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I love it. And it's such great advice. It's a
great tip, and it's a great knowledge bomb because what
I take away from it is I'm seeing the theme here.
I love that you have low dose gummies and your
goals are doable. We don't have to overdo it. It's
about finding balance. I love that you said fifteen minutes
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a day. Maybe I'm the peloton because when I hear
anything in excess of fifteen minutes, I just I'm I'm
out of here. It's overwhelming to me when I hear
you have to do with thirty minutes. And I love
the self soothing, I love the baths, and I'm a
candy crush girl. So maybe we will connect, and I
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will say new being new to cannabis, I'm I did
get addicted to video games, but I've never felt an
addictive reaction to cannabis. Go figure, all right.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Right, right, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Now, when we were talking about out the different ways
to consume cannabis or the different social rituals compared to wine,
wines used to wind down or try to feel a
little less social anxiety, maybe in a social setting so
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that you could connect. But it seems that cannabis, compared
to wine, is more versatile. Can you speak a little
bit about that.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Yeah, absolutely, I think you hit it on the nose
in that there's so many many different types of occasions
or different types of feelings that cannabis can elicit. And
I think for me, the biggest thing is that there's
a little bit more of a lightness or a softness
to the effect or the experience than I often get
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with alcohol. But I think you can have it when
you are looking to relax, You can have it when
you want to be creative and maybe do some kinds
of art project or if you need to be focused
and uplifted, if you're like going to be cleaning the
house or something like that. Like it can there's because
there's so many different types of strains and minor cannabinoids now,
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there's so many different types of effects that you can experience,
So I think there is a wonderful versatility in that
for cannabis. And I think the other thing is there's
not as much, or maybe no, of the pretentiousness that
can sometimes come along with wine. That's certainly not saying
that it's always there, but I do think that that's
a connotation that a lot of people associate with wine,
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and you know, you can have certainly, I've had friends
that have opened very expensive bottles around me and are describing,
you know, the smells or the aromas and the flavors
that they're getting, and I'm like, yeah, sure, m M.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Cracked leather. Yeah, I'm getting that too.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You taste the crack leather, right, you got that, Dinny? Yeah,
Oh my god. That's such an incredible point. Backtracking a
little bit, there's the versatility that the cannabis affords is
there's so many different intentions behind it, and it offers
there's something for everybody, whereas wine is usually with a
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meal or for celebration, but all the different reasons you
could the versatility of the plant in terms of taking
it medicinally or adult use, or for creativity, or for
wellness or as part of a self care routine, and
it comes in so many different forms. But yeah, that's
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really funny. I have to tell you I'm new to this.
I'm completely new to cannabis.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
Well then, thank you, thank you, and please, let's if
we have any control over the way this market evolves,
let's let's try it not to have cannabis snobs.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I don't think we're ever going to have cannabis snobs.
You crack me up about the wine snobs. I could
tell you being it. Say the first thing you said
to me was welcome. It's welcoming. I walk into a dispensary.
I don't. I will. I'm not asked about did I
taste the cracked leather or did I I feel empowered?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I think you're absolutely right in that it is. And
maybe it's because we're still, you know, kind of coming
out of prohibition and there's many different people that are
trying to bring awareness and break some of the stigma
that does exist in the cannabis space. But I've found
it to be a very welcoming space, everyone being willing
to help you or introduce you to new people, or
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you know, talk to you or answer questions that you
might feel dumb asking because you're just not as in
the know.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
But I think touchline for your show, did you mean that?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
But no, I found that it's very much everyone is
focused on, you know, a rising tide lifts all boats,
and how how do we just kind of help each
other to bring out more education and talk about this
beautiful plant.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, it's very very inclusive and comes from a spirit
of just helping you have your need met. Both have
a learning curve, but you know, flavor profiles, potency effects,
How can people new to cannabis approach it with the
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same kind of curiosity and enjoyment that they do with wine.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean lean into it.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
I think having that kind of curiosity is wonderful and
there's so many amazing resources out there that I think
you can just go and educate yourself. And even it's
just looking online and just googling, you know, different types.
All almost all dispensaries, I would think have their menus online,
so you could even start exploring and then have another
(29:56):
browser open to be googling you know, what is the
mean and or you know, finding the answers to that.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Kallal Lily.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
We have really tried to create a website that is
for those that are newer to cannabis. We have a
ton of resources on there, from FAQs to a glossary
and articles about you know, starting with I'm a first timer,
like what should I expect? I'd say Buddhist is another
wonderful app that you can download, and they're doing a
(30:26):
lot of reviews, so if you're curious about a particular product,
you could go on there and see if there's any
kind of information that you could get to understand, you know,
how the effect might be or what the experience. And
I know that you have put together a beautiful library
of information on you know, the podcast website, so people
could check that out as well. But I think educating
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yourself but having fun with it and exploring and trying
different things and just kind of taking a.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Poll of how did that make me feel that I
like it? Should I try it again? Or should I
try something else?
Speaker 5 (30:58):
And when you're going into it, spensery bud tenders are
I've always found so helpful. There's not that intimidating factor
that you get sometimes when you're wine tasting or something
like that, that they're really curious, what is it you're
looking for? How do you feel or you know, how
are you looking to feel? They're there to help you
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and guide you towards the right product. So I'd say
don't be afraid of just going in and walking up
and saying, hey, I'm new, I don't want to I
don't know what I want. Can you help me figure
it out? And I will guarantee that they'll help you
figure that out.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
All right, Well, finishing up on what we were talking
about the importance of education, and I appreciate your shout
out for Greenby Life, but I have the shout out
to you guys. I mean I understand your sponsoring a
profile series of female bud tenders in the MG magazine
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beginning this month in December. We'll have a link for
our viewers because I think they'll be able to get
it through your press section of your website. But tell
us about this profile series on female bud tenders. Tell
us a little bit about that.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Oh, thank you so much for asking about it. Yeah,
we've been so excited to work with MG magazine and
we are profiling female bud tenders in the southern California area,
which has been wonderful, you know, to meet them, but
also hear their stories about what got them into the industry,
what they enjoy about it, how they enjoy interacting with consumers,
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particularly female consumers, and you know what it is that
they've been learning and noticing throughout their time.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
So it's been wonderful.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
To both highlight them and draw attention to the work
that they're doing, because like all industries, I think the
cannabis space needs more of that.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Hey, it does, And for consumers out there, you really
want to know who behind the product you're supporting. And
I can't say enough about Kalally and about Liz, who
really tries to pay a forward. She's got a tough
road to hoe. Any well meaning brand trying to pave
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the way while there's federal inaction and a patchwork of
inconsistent laws. It's a challenge. So we're going to as
an industry succeed together or fail individually. And Liz, you know, Kalalily,
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it's a beautiful brand that you have and a beautiful
mission that you're on. And I love that you guys
are sponsoring to profile female but tenders. This is it's
a medicine. It's a refined experience. A plant is multifaceted.
It should not be marginalized. So I'm going to make
a little little plug to de sc not reschedule it.
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Before legalization in California, women were exploited. It would be
the girls in the bikinis on Venice Beach bringing you
into a funky looking uh booth where there's a doctor
to give you your medical marijuana cart. It's a serious lant.
It improves people's lives, the genies out of the bottle,
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and so women need to be empowered and not exploited
the way they were. So I love that you're profiling
it's you have a new wave of cannabis in your
innovative product, but there's a new wave of butt tenders,
and there's a new wave of respect for the women
going into those roles. Liz, I agree with you about
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holiday stress. For me, it often feels like I'm trying
to run a marathon and flipflops, and a great deal
of the season's magic, as you mentioned, and falls to
all of our mothers and wives out there. Let's face it,
you know, moms, they make it happen, and they make
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the moments magical, but it shouldn't be at a great
cost to them, and nobody wants that. So how can
low dose THC products help create a more relaxed and
balanced holiday mood or mood in general? Why load dose
THC dummies?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Well, first, I just want to like, I love that
description of running a marathon and flip flops, because that's
sometimes what it feels like. I mean, the holidays are
a magical time, but they also come, especially for moms
or parents of all kinds, it comes a lot of
pressure and a long to do list, as to many
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other times throughout the year as well. But like you said,
I think there's a lot that falls on our shoulders
to take care of this time of year. And I
think low dose TC products can be such a beautiful
pairing because, like I said earlier in the podcast, they
they can add a feeling of lightness or softness around
some of the stress that tends to come, you know,
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with life anytime of the year, but particularly the holidays.
And I think there's many different ways that you can
integrate them into the life, you know, the day to day.
So you could have one before setting off to cook
a big family meal. You could have one before doing
a big you know, gift wrapping marathon and put on
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some of your favorite music. But I think that there's
a way that you still feel in control while also
just having like the softening of the edges or a
lift of some of that stress that you can kind
of feel that, you know, not everything's going to get
done and I have to go run and do this.
It just makes you feel like, yeah, I got this,
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and I'm gonna have fun while I do it.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
So I think that it's a beautiful way, having load
edibles to.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Still tackle everything on your list, but do it with
a just a different feeling and a like a more
of a lightness and a sense of if I'm gonna
have all of this to do, I can at least
do it while I'm feeling better and have fun with it.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I love that you're crushing the stigma because it's it's
it's prevalent, and many people outside of the cannabis community
still believe it's about chasing a high, and you know,
I'm not. There's nothing wrong with that. There's a time
and place for everything. But like wine, it's it's not
(37:40):
you can't reduce it to spring break, drinking out of
a box, waking up on the side of a street
on a curb. I don't mean to bash spring break,
but that that is. I mean, anything could be used
responsibly or not, and just because in cases where is
misused it Yeah, I love this conversation and I love
(38:04):
speaking with you, and I love that you're bringing the
potential for low dose And as you said, it's a
versatile plant. There's so many different uses right and applications,
and it's not just about you know, getting completely and
(38:24):
totally disoriented. So it's a.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Huge thing to point out because I think that there's
a concern or a stigma that if I use cannabis,
I'm going to be out of control or I'm going
to be so high that I can't get off the couch.
And I think that it's really important for people to
know that that low DOS gummies aren't going to make
you feel that way. You're still going to be completely
(38:51):
in control, and you can start off with just like
a nibble of a gummy and take it from there
as your comfort level allows. But you can make it
work for you. And by using it isn't mean you're
automatically going to subscribe to you a cannabis culture that
doesn't work for you. It's still you, it's still your lifestyle.
It's still your culture, and you're just integrating it into
(39:14):
it as you would whine or a cocktail or something
like that.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Amen. I mean the first time I spoke to you,
I was so when you explained it as your meth.
This product is for people seeking to stay present. I
said it in my opening because my favorite thing about
your brand. It's for people who are looking to stay
present and capable while experiencing a moment of calm and relaxation.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I think it also brings about a
more openness, like there's when you're connecting with other people,
whether it be family or friends. I think that there's
there's just this different feeling that you get. I've never
seen someone you know, using cannabis get really angry or
really violent.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
I have seen that people that are drinking. So just
just something to think about.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
So it adds a bit of softness, which without intoxicating
you making you cognitively impaired, just make a little bit
of softness. Just some people can use a fine wine
for that or sharnanay. I've heard the expression chardonnay moms.
They don't suffer the same stigma that cannabis moms or
(40:34):
up against. Speaking of moms and dads, parents who consume cannabis,
particularly in states where it's not legal, they faceless. I'm
sure you could tell me more about this societal and
legal challenges. So have you experienced personally the stigma or
as a parent using cannabis and Addie, I hope to
(40:55):
challenge the stigma through Kaliily.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Yeah. I mean, I'm very to live in California, so
a state where it is recreationally legal, So I'm you know,
I certainly don't have any stories that I'm sure parents
in you know, in other states would have around the
stigma or the difficulty in getting it. But for me,
(41:19):
I think it's really challenging and quite frustrating when I
see examples or see it negatively referenced in all types
of media, especially you know, movies or TV shows when drinking,
even binge drinking is celebrated. You know, the memes around
(41:39):
a shardinay mom or my mom needs a margarita are
all funny.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
I love at them as well.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
And yet having a low dough edible is you know,
criticized or could threaten you know, you taking care.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
Of your child. Well, to me, that's just comical.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
But I think it's very important to work against that
stigma and bring about education. Having podcasts like this and
talking about the effects and how you feel, and me
sharing real life examples of how I incorporate cannabis into
my life while still being a present and in control parent,
(42:18):
I think is really important. And at Kalily, we're working
on a couple of different fronts to try to do that.
You know, first, like I mentioned before, education and all
of the resources that we have on our website talking
about low dose, talking about how to be a beginner,
how to find cannabis, in a way that will work
(42:38):
for you, and empowering women to do that exploration and
have fun with it. I think emphasizing the fact that
low dose is just that it is a low dose,
and it's almost equivalent to having half of a glass
to a glass of wine, you know, in kind of
that type of effect of that you're going to feel.
And so I think doing that, we also share a
(43:01):
lot of stories in our blogs and articles from women
and how they incorporate cannabis into their lifestyle. So I
think talking about that and sharing stories will allow other
women to kind of see themselves in that scenario and
maybe view it in a different light. And two, packaging,
you know, will be People still judge a book by
(43:23):
its cover, people still judge a bottle of wine by
its label. And so bringing a brand to the marketplace
that looks and feels elevated and has a beautiful, you
know package to it with a glass jar inside, we're
creating an experience, and we're creating a luxury experience and
something that can feel beautiful and elevated in someone's life,
(43:46):
and you know, mirror that of other products that are
already in their repertoire. I think also having that with
the brand works to break some of that stigma as well.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
So yeah, I agree with everything you said, and I
applaud you your brave, your brave, your braves come on
the podcast. Yes you're lucky to live in California. But
we can't forget guys, it's still federally illegal. Now hopefully
(44:20):
it will be rescheduled. Needs to be descheduled because there
are legal challenges and moms do face in states where
it's not legal. There's risk of child custody issues, criminal penalties,
employment risks, have to worry about child protective services. This
(44:42):
is real, guys, in states where it's not legal, and
this is why it affects all of us. Liz, so
many things I love about Kllerily, the brand, the mission, yourself.
But I have to tell you I love that it
was founded on the idea of liv being unapologetically. Why
(45:04):
do you think it's important for women everyone to stop
apologizing for their choices, especially especially when it comes to cannabis.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
I mean so many reasons.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
I mean, I think I read that women ten or
women apologize about twenty percent more than men do, and
so I think in.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Not me, not me, I'm a Kalily girl, not sorry,
not sorry guys.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
By no, we're turning sorry into it into a curse word.
But I think in general, I think women should just
try to take stock and notice when you're apologizing how
much you're apologizing. Just ask yourself, is that something I
really needed to apologize for? You know, like do you
see your your male colleagues apologizing for things like that?
(45:58):
Because I do think that it matters, and I think
apologizing less will have an effect of women feeling more
confident and more empowered and showing up and feeling the
right to take up space or having a voice or
questioning decisions that you see being made. So I just
think that when and especially when it comes to cannabis,
(46:19):
apologizing less for using it will really work against distigmatizing
it and showing that it is whether it be for
you know, medicinal use or recreational you know, just having
fun will show that it can be a part of
your daily life like alcohol, like food, like you know,
the medicine that you're taking, and just showing that it
(46:40):
is an ingredient in your lifestyle. We like to say
at Kalalily that we make edibles that are for any
reason or no reason at all.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
I love it. I love it for any reason or
no reason at all.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
I find when you're apologizing for things, it will internalize it,
and it makes you question your own behavior or choices
or opinions when you shouldn't, you know, And I think
especially we as women, tend to do that.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
So just being more mindful.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
Of it and calling yourself on it when you see
doing it, or calling you know, a good girlfriend on
it and saying you don't need to apologize for that,
why are you apologizing for that? And kind of keeping
each other in check could be really helpful.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
You know, ladies, It's it's not obvious, but if you
think about it, it undermines confidence and the authenticity in
our lives. It's it's so true, but it's knee jerk.
It's hardwired, and it's something we really have to pay
attention to. But we are conditioned, We are socialized and conditioned,
(47:44):
especially as women, and hey, it's a female plant. So
how do you think we can shift the narrative and
normalize cannabis as a valid lifestyle choice, particularly for women
and parents, aside from stop apologizing for it?
Speaker 5 (48:04):
I mean, I think podcasts like this are doing a
beautiful job and conversations like this, and just seeing more
examples on you know, the media that people consume. So
whether movies, t fee social media, I think I see
it starting for sure on social media, people getting out
there and and living unapologetically and saying, yeah, I am
(48:28):
a cand of mom, and yeah I'm gonna have a gummy,
you know at night or when I'm hanging out with
my kids, because guess what, I can do that and
still be present and play with them and maybe even
have more fun with them. So I think it's just
showing examples around that and and highlighting all the beautiful
(48:48):
resources that are available for people that you know, maybe
are curious but don't know enough or want to educate themselves.
So I think it's just doing doing more of this.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Well, you make a fantastic point. I mean, I just
cannabis hasn't crossed the main stream divide in terms of media.
It's either sensationalized and they like to tell these crazy
horror stories or they just don't talk about it because
(49:23):
the advertising dollars aren't there yet because of the legal landscape.
So what you said is absolutely spot on. All right, Well,
we've been dispelling a lot of myths around the stigma
and trying to crush the stigma, which is a perfect
segue into our nippet in the bud segment. So let's
(49:45):
knit this in the bud Liz, truth or fiction. All
gummies are created equal fiction.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
I was so excited to come on and be able
to talk about this because, in no sense are all
of the gummies are edibles out there created equal. And
I think it's so important for consumers to know that
and to know what to look for. There's so many
people that are being more conscious in the choices that
they're making about what food they buy, what produce they're
(50:19):
looking at, what kind of wine they're doing. They're being
very as they should, looking at the ingredients and the
sourcing and where things are coming from. But I want
you to apply that to cannabis as well. And I
think a lot of times some of the big brands
that are out there are mass producing these gummies and
they're using cannabis inputs that are distilate, but they're made
(50:41):
with the use of solvents, and so the gummies that
you're getting do still have trace amounts of those solvents,
you know, like buttane in there, and so knowing that
and just having more of an understanding of what broad
market gummies are made of will help you make purposeful choices.
And you know, looking for us at Kalalily, of course,
(51:02):
I can really only speak specifically to what we're doing.
We were very particular about the inputs that we were using.
We use a solventless live rosin that is made by
our manufacturer with buds that have been flash frozen and
sent down to their facility. Is actually made using an
ice water bath, so really can't get more natural than that,
(51:23):
and we use all natural ingredients and flavorings and nothing
that we don't need to. We had a very minimalist
approach when we were doing the formulation of our gummies,
and so I think just being mindful of that as
a consumer and doing your homework and looking online into
what's going into this and is it okay with me
or not? And it might be and that's completely fine,
(51:44):
But just knowing that like other areas of your life
where you are maybe double clicking and looking into things
a little bit more, and want you to apply that
to your cannabis as.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Well, absolutely, and your rods and his sun grown that's correct.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
So the bud is coming from Sungrown farms across California,
and it's then when it's harvested, it's actually flash frozen
and transported down to our manufacture where they're making their
own solventless rosin in house.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
And can you explain what rosin is?
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (52:18):
So, I mean there's many different ways of taking the
cannabis plant and kind of distilling it down into the
material that you're going to use in different edibles. There's distolate,
there's resin, and then there's rosin, And it's really the
manner in which you treat it that determines the name.
(52:40):
And we specifically wanted to use rosin because it doesn't
use solvents in its extraction process, so it's we use
an ice water bath and kind of agitating and shaking
the plant to get the materials off of it, versus
using something like utane.
Speaker 1 (52:57):
WHOA, So, do dissolate some resin as an extra action method?
Includes sometimes solvents.
Speaker 5 (53:03):
Yes, many times they do. And so the gummies on
the market will have, you know, mind you very small
and trace amounts, but they are present.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
Okay, But that's also why what I'm seeing on your packaging.
Is it's triple lab tested correct? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (53:23):
Our manufacturer helps with the lab testing that is. I
mean part of being a legal cannabis company in California
is following all of the rules and being really careful
around you know, the ingredients, the manner in which it's made,
and making sure that everything is lab tested so that
before it goes to the market, we are sure about
the the dosage, you know, the cannabinoid presence, and that
(53:45):
everything has been you know, triple check to make sure
that it's safe for consumer use.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Right, and you want those lab reports guys to be
able to verify the purity and the potency. So so
what are the best ways just what are some of
the best ways for consumers to advocate for themselves in
the cannabis market so that we can have more well
meaning brands and female founders.
Speaker 5 (54:13):
Always want more female founders and cannabis but any industry.
But I think the ways that consumers can advocate for
themselves is doing their own homework, you know, doing research themselves,
whether it be on your website, my website or all
of the other wonderful resources that are out there, and
asking questions, you know, not being afraid to go in
(54:35):
and ask bud tenders about certain products or you know, strains,
what have you, but just feeling more empowered and confident
and taking it into their own hands to make the
experience what they want it to be.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
That's right, and that's why the profile that you're sponsoring
an MG magazine about female budtenders very very important. And
consider the source. You must consider your source. But it
all starts with going full circle here, Liz, being unapologetic,
so that you have the confidence and step into your
(55:13):
right to demand accurate information to make the best choices
for yourself and your family. So hey, knowledge is power.
Always read the labels, research claims, and support brands that
prioritize transparency and compliance. I think, Liz, before we close,
(55:39):
I just want to take a moment to give you
a big thank you for all that you're doing to
move the industry forward, to move female founders forward, and
to help make people be able to tolerate life a
little easier and stay present for it.
Speaker 5 (56:01):
Well, thank you so much, Maria. It's you know that
it means so much coming from you. It's truly been
my pleasure to talk with you about the brand and
about how more women can make cannabis work for them.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
Yes and yeah. I just love how you are out
there sharing your story which is so inspiring, and from
exploring the parallels between wine and cannabis, learning how low
dose THC can transform the stress of the holiday season
or any season that's overwhelming, into moments of calm. Liz
(56:38):
has truly shown us the power of living unapologetically and
embracing cannabis with confidence. As we head into the holiday season,
Let's take her advice to heart. Guys, whether it's finding balance,
staying present, or letting go of unnecessary apologies, we all
(57:00):
we all deserve to approach life and cannabis with intention
and joy. Next week, we're going to dive into an
equally fascinating topic with our guests Seth Rutherford from two
five to three Pharmacy. This is massachusetts top cannabis dispensary
and the only dispensary in the United States that offers
(57:22):
Ohsher cannabis. How's that live? Ohsher Cannabis? Is that a
new one?
Speaker 4 (57:27):
I love it? I can't wait to tune in a
great so.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Whether you are new to cannabis or a seasoned enthusiast,
this is a conversation you're not gonna want to miss. Hey, guys,
your feedback is invaluable, so please don't hesitate to reach
out with questions, comments, and ideas for topics you'd like
us to explore. You could connect with me on social
media at just Say No Radio, or visit our website
(57:51):
at greenbey life dot com and Liz for people to
find out more about Kalalily, I know they can visit
kalily com. That's Calililycanna dot com. Or how can they
connect to you on social media?
Speaker 4 (58:08):
Yeah? Absolutely so.
Speaker 5 (58:09):
You can find us on Instagram at Kaliily Underscore HQ
and you can also find us on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Oh fantastic. Well, thank you for joining me today. Everyone
on Just Say No, remember, knowledge is powering Together. We're
redefining cannabis one conversation at a time, one guest at
a time. Until next time, stay informed, stay curious, stay lit,
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(58:39):
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