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November 11, 2025 48 mins
Dr. Linda P. Chinn is a native of New London, CT who currently resides in Douglasville, GA. She fulfills her mission of uprooting and pulling down false belief systems in the lives of God's people to build them up by planting in them the incorruptible seed of the living Word through her various ministries. Dr. Chinn is an accomplished entrepreneur and the creator of Linda Chinn Ministries as well as the founder of Christian Women in Training Network.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Keeping It Real with Doctor Linda Chin. This
is the podcast where real life choices need biblical truth
without the pluck. Tune in every second and fourth Monday
at gwpm Eastern Standard Time as doctor Chen shares faith filled,
practical insights to navigate everyday challenges. Get ready for real talk,

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real life and real answers.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Good afternoon. Welcome to another episode
of Keeping It Real with Doctor Linda Chen. I'm Audribel Curney,
so the show, So glad to be here with you
guys today. It is a beautiful day here in Georgia.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
It is Chili dugh. It is a chilly, beautiful day,
but we're happy because of it is fall.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
It could be worse. It could be snowing. Somewhere in
the world is snowing. So we're gonna we won't complain
about the brisk edit. We're feeling right now. Got a
great show for you today. Doctor Tin has a wonderful guess.
Her name is Reverend Rachel Boyd, and they're gonna be
talking about boring to intercede, so listen. As always, doctor
shen't bring the most amazing people to share some wisdom
that we can use in our every day life. So

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Speaker 3 (01:26):
Do us that favor.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Okay, I'm gonna bring them to the stage. Good afternoon,
Good afternoon there.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Ladies, Good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I'm glad to have you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
They hope you having a ditch start to your day,
a good part of your day.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, we are so good to see you too.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Audrey, Thank you, Doctor Jen, thank you well.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Audrey is a wonderful introducer. She's a wonderful producer, and
I always like to acknowledge her before we get into
the show, and at the end we bring her backup
so that she can share her insights or ask any
questions that come to her. So, Audrey, I honor you.
I honor you, and I appreciate you, and I love
you very much. And we know you got.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Your note bad bad.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I do right here, Ray, I was always right on
my side always.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, thank you, guys. I'm looking forward to the show.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Heymen man, Hello, hello, Reverend Rachel Boyd. How are you?

Speaker 5 (02:30):
I am doing wonderful, Doctor Chan. It's such a blessing
to see you again always.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Oh you too, you too, And this is invite you
to your show. You are so welcome. You know. I
love how when God answers the question right, Because you
and I've been talking about this, I'm so glad that
she's on for those of you are listening live. She
and I have been talking about this since the summertime,
and God is just enlarging Rachel, Reverend Rachel's territory. And

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so this is the day we landed on and we're
gonna talk about Born to Intercede. She has written a
book called Born to Intercede. And many of us will
say we can, or everybody can intercede at some point,
but not everyone is an intercessor, right, And so we
want to talk to Reverend Boyd about what it means

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that she was born to intercede. So I'm going to
tell you a little bit about her, not a whole
lot that you can read by her book, and it
is called Born to Intercede. But she was born in Atlanta, Georgia.
I won't tell the year because that's not even important.
But it was spoken at her at her birth by

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the family pastor overseer Karing Lee Thomas, that she was
going to be an intercessor, that she was born to intercede,
and that she would be a territorial intercessor, which means
she has a certain territory that she covers and God
will send her whatever he will, even after and during

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this time. But she answers the call, and she sanctified herself,
and she does often, and she walks and she prays
and she talks and she prays. Let me just tell
you something about an intercessor. She is a prophet as well.
She is a prophet of God. She doesn't know this,
but as we were praying before the show less than
ten minutes ago, she prayed something over me that she

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didn't even know I was dealing with. So, without further ado,
this awesome, wonderful sanctified woman of God. Reverend Rachel, Welcome
to Keeping it Real with Doctor Linda Chin.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Thank you again, Doctor chann is just such an honor
to be able to be on your show, and I
am so privileged to be here.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
God bless you, God bless you.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Amen. Is there anything about yourself that you want to
share that I didn't talk about in the little bio?
What would you like people to know?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yeah, well, actually I'd like to share. I love my
age and I tell it everywhere I go. How I
am sixty eight seventy in two years and born June ninth,
nineteen fifty seven. As a matter of fact, it is
on the back of my book as well. And I

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would just like to say that, as you alluded to,
when I was born, I was three weeks old. Our
family pastor who was very, very gifted. This was a
female that was very gifted. She would go throughout the
neighborhoods when babies were born, if the family allowed, and
pray over those babies and would prophesy what those babies

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were going to do.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
Now for me, she came to my home when I was.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
Three weeks old and she prophesied and told my mom
that I would be one of God's territorial intercestors, and
out of the intercestor the prophet would come.

Speaker 6 (05:55):
So the prophet had come out of my prayer life.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
And I believe that that's where all of our gifts
come from, because you're no stronger. You're no stronger than
your prayer life. You're no stronger than your prayer life.
So she prophesied that, and she also said that by
the time I was in my forties, mid fifties, she said,
I would be fully functional, but I would still be

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growing in that area.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
I would still be growing in that area.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Thank God that my mother, who died at forty nine,
had the wherewithal to write that down, and she gave
it to me in nineteen eighty three on this little
piece of paper the month that she died in and
I have it today. So that's how it came into
existence that I.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
Am born to intercede.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
And from what I've studied in scripture and other gifts
that I've seen, people are born. Yes, you can train someone,
Yes you can help aid them into that position. But
if God has mandated and sent you here from that,
you cannot escape it.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
So you said something very key at the beginning, and
I hope you all heard it and we'll hear it
that in your gifting, you're no stronger than your prayer life.
In our gifting, we are as strong as our prayer life. Amen. Amen, Amen.
How old were you when you came into the faith?

Speaker 5 (07:27):
When I came into the faith, I believe I was
about and able to recognize it. I was about twelve
years old, because even then, I don't want to use
the term weird.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
I was beginning to I want to say, fit my suit.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
I didn't actually know what was happening, but the Lord
was dealing with me. I would have situations where I
would just want to retreat and be by myself and
just think on him, because again, and remember, I was
born in a house of God. I was born in
a house where there were bona fide prophets, where they

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were bonafide intercessors that were evangelists, and they were not
highly educated.

Speaker 6 (08:10):
But the key that I saw.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
In them was this, they were completely sold out to God.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
They were anchored in Jesus.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
And as you know, our doctor Chen, it was only
one thing that the disciples asked Jesus to teach them,
and that was to teach them to pray, right, to
teach them to pray.

Speaker 6 (08:36):
And so that's how that was my awareness of it.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
I've always been very active with being outside.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
I love outdoors.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
As a matter of fact, I mentioned this in my
book that some of my dearest friends have called me
the hiking intercessor because I hiked all over but that's
actually yes, I love to do that, but that's actually
my navigation. And a dear friend of mine by the
name of doctor she Chen called me a shepherd of prayer,

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and I mentioned that in my book, a shepherd of prayer.
And if you think about a shepherd, I think of
King David before he became king.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
He was out in the back, he was tending.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
To the sheep, he was doing all of that, but
he was a mastering where God was going to send him.
And that's how intercessors are. We're not concerned with the
hype of the world, concerned with being where we can
hear what the next step is with God and what

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our next assignment is.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
So when did you have an AHA moment as when
you said to yourself, I know what she meant now
as being a territorial intercessor, did it happen like that
for you or were you just already walking in and
how did it happen that you knew who you were?

Speaker 5 (10:00):
Well, you know, I was already walking in it and
kind of didn't realize it. But I did have an
AHA moment. I did have an AHA moment. And this
is when I retired from the government. This is when
I was still working at the government because people that
didn't even know me would come and ask me, will

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you come and just be in our presence we're having
a meeting. It's just something about you. We want you
to be that buffer. And that's what an intercessor is.
We're buffers, we're advocates. We stand in the gap. That's
what that standing in the gap looks like. So, yes,
I did have that AHA moment, but I was already

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moving in it unaware.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Wow, So what does So I know many people honestly
who call themselves and they say I'm an intercessor, and
I know no disrespect to anybody, God knows, but I
know two intercessors. I've seen the works, I've seen the evidence.
One of them is you, and one of them is

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I'm going to say this, doctor Tasha Lord. And is
Shiloh Church in New London, Connecticut. Tasha Martin, Reverend Martin,
and I see your lives, I've seen the evidence. I've
heard you speak things to me that no one could know,
but God, I have several things written in my journal
that you've spoken. But so, what do you say? What

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does an intercessor personally mean to you? If I were
to say, oh, I'm an intercessor, and you didn't see
any evidence, but you wanted to lovingly correct me and
guide me, what would you say to me?

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Well, first of all, I would say to you, give
me an example of some of your assignments.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
My teaching assignments.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Intercessors are on assignment.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Oh you would say that to this.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
If a person and came to me and said that
I'm an intercessor. Because intercessors, as opposed to prayer warriors,
is all the same. It's all the same. Prayer warriors
are going to hit it and quit it. Intercessors are
going to have assignments that may last ten, fifteen, twenty
thirty years.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
And we're not necessarily looking for a manifestation to see
a manifestation, We're just going to keep on doing it. Okay,
So when I've had been in the position where people
would come and say I am an intercessor. That's one
of the questions that I would ask them, because.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
I don't care where you are in that place.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
You must be able to say, God had me doing this,
and it's very it's a very peculiar life.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
But we understand each other. Also about intercessors, a.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
Lot of times they have been misdiagnosed in terms of
depression because we, most of us are introverts. I consider
myself a restrained introvert. I love people. I love people,
but I would rather one hundred percent be by myself.

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And that's because I feel things from the Lord.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Now I know it's from the Lord.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
I feel things from the Lord that I don't quite
understand my suit.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
And when I say suit, I'm talking about the flat.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yes, okay, my suit has not caught up with what
he's saying or he's not given it to me just yet.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
So that's what I would ask now. And I know that.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Intercessors, again, a lot of us will never be written about.
We would never have a platform, we will never write
a book. There are a lot of nevers, but that's
that's not the end game for us. We just want
to know what is it that God would have us
to intercede about, because our main job is to tear

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down the invisible.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
That's what true intercessors do.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
We tear down the invisible, and we are those buffers
between God's people and just people in general. And most
intercessors they some of the assignments. Most of my assignments,
A lot of them, yes, has been personal, but a
lot of my assignments are are for international or global

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things that are happening. And you know, another thing about intercessors,
we don't speak about what God has told us to do.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
We don't talk about that because.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
We only want him to get the glory and we're
not concerned with whether we see a manifestation or whether
somebody's patent us on the back.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
We're just not interested in that.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
So it's not.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
A glamorous or devified position. It is a solid God
position where you are humbling yourself before Him and you're
not talking about a lot of things. There are things
that I wrote examples that I wrote about in my book.

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But there are some connections and some people that God
has divinely connected me to through intercession that I will
never ever speak about. And the reasoning is because he
said not to. So it's not all for us to
always be talking and telling. We don't tell, We just do.

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Just again, intercessors, we know each other in the spirit,
so you can say that you're an intercessor all day long.

Speaker 6 (15:43):
The Word of God has said that all.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
Of us are called to pray, but some of us
are born to live this life.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
Okay, So and we know each other in the spirit.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
There are some distinct characteristics about us that only we
can recognize.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
That is so interesting. And you said intercesses will not
write books. So it was Rachel the prophet that has
written this book. So I can tell you this. In
the twenty five years almost twenty six that I've known you, honestly,
I don't ever see you really having conversation with people. Right.

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I've been in events where you were there and you
always you're off walking, you're off doing this, and you'll
wave and you won't say anything. I've seen you in
the church in the megachurch, and I've never seen you
around a group of people having a conversation. And the
few conversations that we've had in the twenty five years,

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you don't talk about anything but what God told you
to talk about. And you're not rude, but you cut
the conversation right then and there. And that's one of
the things that I love about you. So in your
book you say one of the things you said in
your book is to pray is to prophesy, and to
prophesy is to pray.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Say a little bit more about that, Okay, And as
a matter of fact, and I will give you an
example that just happened yesterday. What I mean by that
is to praise, to prophesy and to prophesizes to pray
because God will prophesy through us in prayer. You even
mentioned a few minutes ago, when I prayed, I begin

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to speak something that I have no clue of.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
Okay, I'm just praying. There's a difference. There's a difference when.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
You're praying and prophesying as opposed to when the prophet
in the office of the prophet that you're.

Speaker 6 (17:38):
Just standing and you're prophesying.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
So the majority of my strength, the majority of my knowing.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
Came from my prayer life. Okay.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
That's why it is so important. And you can prophesy
unknowingly through your prayer life. I'll get a perfect example
yesterday at church. At my church Sundays, after the service
is the minister has come forth. The ministers that are
on schedule will come down to the altar to pray

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for people further if they need further prayer. Well, I
was at the altar yesterday and there was a young
lady that came to me and she gave me her
request and I began to pray. You know, you got
to hit it and quit it because you don't have
time to counsel. That's not a counseling situation. You just
praying and you're moving on right like the Holy Gos.
It doesn't take all of that. But anyway, I began

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to pray for her and I was speaking some things.
So I'm just praying. I'm just doing what Rachel does.
And she said to me afterwards, she says, well, how
did you She says, how did you know that about me?
And I said, you know what, and she shared with
me what I said. I said, I just listened to
the Holy Ghost. That's a prime example. To pray is

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to prophesy, and to proficie is to prayer. It is
distinctly different from the office of the prophet. When I'm
operating in the office of the prophet. I'm just giving
you a word. But if I'm praying for you and
God will begin to speak, it just rolls. So that's
what to pray to prophesy looks like awesome.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
So there's another thing in your prayer in your book
where you talk about how to how do you talk
about the fivefold ministry? How do you correlate the five
fold ministry with the five positions in prayer? What are
the five positions in prayer you talk about?

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Okay? Okay?

Speaker 5 (19:43):
The five fold ministry of prayer that I've written about
and I recently finished a book because people were inquiring
about that.

Speaker 6 (19:53):
What is this five fox ministry of prayer? You know?

Speaker 5 (19:57):
That was birth out of all my assignments that God
has done over the years, and I was documenting it
and writing it down so that that's how that came about.
And those positions are the ambassador of prayer, the gatekeeper,

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the warrior, the intercessor, and the watchman. Okay, those are
those are those five positions?

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (20:30):
And how again, how that was birth was throughout my
life of God moving me. The ambassador of prayer is
when I would be like a statesman. God would say
I need you to make a phone call and go
talk to the governor.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
I'm not a lawyer. That ain't my background.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Everything that God has done in my life it is
not my background.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
I'm not college educated for it.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
But when he says to move, I will move. And
that's how intercessors are. We don't need when you get
to the place. When you get to the place and
when you know that God is telling you to do something,
you don't please him, I don't need.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
I never say to the Lord, okay, well give me
a thirteen piece of chicken, and then I know that
you want me to do this, okay. We never we
never do that.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
We just don't do that when you get to that
place of knowing that it's the Lord, and it can
be bizarre and peculiar, but it's right and it is
a chess piece that God is ordaining you to be.
So that's where those positions came from. Out of each
of my assignments, my dominant gift is that of an intercessor,

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a territorial intercessor.

Speaker 6 (21:48):
And what a territory for me, what.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
A territorial intercessor does is like you said, I move
about a lot. I move about a lot because I'm
constantly picking up things. And even when I was a
young woman, this was me coming into the realization of
certain things. I would go to certain cities just on
a visitation, and the minute I would enter into that city,

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my whole countenance would change. Okay, later on, as God
was training me. Later on I found out he was
giving me the ability to be able to identify the
ruling spirit in that city that I needed to intercede about.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
So a lot of the life of.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
An intercessor is almost unexplainable because we moved quickly for him.
As you stated, when you see me, sometimes I'm just
moving about, yes, and that's just my nature as well.
But a lot of times I'm moving because I hear
Him in the spirit calling me. And it may just
be as simple as Okay, Rachel, I need you to

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go over here and stand, just stand and intercede out
of your belly. We don't make we don't make spectacles
of ourselves. I could be standing next to you not
saying a word, but God is having me to intercede
for you. So intercessors are very, in my opinion, very

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unique and different people because you.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
Have to hear from God.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
You have to hear from him, and again, it may
be very peculiar in how he moves you. That's where
the misdiagnosis could come in. You may start feeling something, well, oh,
it's just the weather. No, it's not the weather. It's
him positioning you because he's getting ready to tell you something,
show you something.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
Or send you somewhere.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Wow. Wow. So then how do you, particularly on the
prophetic side, and how do you guard against pride? You know,
because in my opinion and experienced your prophetic word. Good afternoon,
Prophetess Johnson, thank you for joining us today. Your prophetic

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word is always on point. How do you guard against
pride in that area and as it relates to you
sanctifying and keeping yourself apart? How do you guard against
discouragement and loneliness?

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Okay, the way I guard myself, especially concerning pride, pride
and jealousy. I'm not a perfect human being, but some
of us just don't deal with certain things.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
Pride and jealousy.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Has not been one of my issues. Even when I
was a child. If I got an F and my
friend got an A.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
I'm just jumping for joy. So that's something that God
gave me.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
So that pride factor, I do watch that because God
can use you so mightily, and people will begin to
pat you on the back if you allow them. I
won't allow it, first of all. Yeah, you know, I
won't allow it first of all. But and so I
guard myself in that way because this is what I

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say to myself.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
It is my.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Reasonable service to even know that my name is written
in the Lamb Book of Life. This life is going
to pass away, and what I do for Christ that's
the only thing that's going to last. So that's how
I guard myself and loneliness because I am a person
of solitude and I love being by myself, and thank

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God that my husband is the same way.

Speaker 6 (25:40):
So we just kind of to people in the same boat,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
I don't have an issue with that because I could
just be with Rachel and be with the Lord just
any time of the day. So loneliness, I don't have
an issue with it. But I do understand when that
deep conviction of being withdrawn. I do understand that now

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because and I had to learn that, and that's one
of the things that intercessors have to learn.

Speaker 6 (26:12):
Am I just being withdrawn because there's something wrong?

Speaker 5 (26:14):
No, I know, now it's him me being withdrawn because
he's about to say something to me, give me something,
or send me somewhere.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Awesome, awesome, Welcome to the show, Joyce Smith and Joyce asked,
Is that the same like a missionary that goes to
different cities and countries to spread the word?

Speaker 6 (26:36):
Absolutely? I mentioned in my book if.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
There is any office that I admire is that of
the missionary and the evangelist, because they are intercessors Bona five,
especially the missionary that has to go and will go

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into certain places and have to believe for certain things.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
Absolutely. Absolutely, most missionaries are intercessors.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
At how because they got to believe God for if
He's sent them in a place where there's no water,
where there's no school, where kids are being trafficked.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Absolutely, So I had a question I had written down.
I want to ask you this. How do you handle
spiritual warfare?

Speaker 6 (27:32):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (27:36):
The way I handle spiritual warfare is I flip it
around like this. First, I call it warfare that is spiritual,
and that, in my opinion, it gives me a distinction
between if something is behavior.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
Or if this is something that is natural.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Everything ain't warfare and witchcraft come on walking around all
day long.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
I'm in warfare. I'm in warfare.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
No soldier in the military fighting a war stays on
the front line twenty for seven.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
Okay, no soldier stays on the line twenty four to seven.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
So I don't elect, first of all, to call everything
witchcraft warfare the money. It absolutely exists, and even in
my book, I just barely mentioned it because I didn't
want the focus to be on that. Now, I am

(28:43):
one that understands that type of bewitching very well, but.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
I feel like this, if the Holy Ghost is in me.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
And he's alerting me to something that truly is bewitching,
I work.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
In the spirit.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Sometimes I make One of my mentors taught me this, Rachel,
you ain't always got to move your mouth. Just make
sure that the Holy Ghost and the Word of God
is in you, and you can shut a demon down.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
Just like that.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Oh yes, oh yes, down, just like that. So I
assess it, and I do know what that looks like.
But I put the word of God on it. I
could be bound the word. Yes, Jesus did it.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
Yes, Jesus did it. Absolutely yes, So that's how I
deal with that. That's how that's how I deal with that.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I love it. It is warfare that is spiritual, because
there's some warfare where you're warring against our flesh. Let's
be honest. Yes, you know what I'm saying. I'll speak
for myself in that case. And then there's things we
talked about it a one of my brothers and the
Lord where there are some things that people call spirits

(30:06):
that in the Bible are works of the flesh. Right.
For example, we talked about jealousy is not a spirit.
It is the pipulations five. It is a work of
the flesh, adultery, not just jealousy, but envy. There's a
works of the flesh that are not spiritual. And so

(30:28):
oftentimes we're beating at the air when we think we're
in spiritual Warfaesh, I love how you said that that
it is warfare that is spiritual.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
And the Word of God says that he will teach
us to war with our hands. He's the master strategist
when it comes from teaching us. Again, if you got
the Holy Spirit in you, the Word says that the
Holy Spirit is a leader, a goiter and a teacher.
He's going to show you something, He's going to allow

(31:00):
you to see what it actually is. Again, we're not
talking about perfect people. I'm still learning and I want
to and I want.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
To always say this.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
I say this to those that I mentor sometimes I
have not arrived.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
I am still learning. None of us have arrived.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
And if anyone does say that they have arrived, I
I need them to get.

Speaker 6 (31:25):
A little medication, because it's not. We're forever growing.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Amen, amen, amen, And anything not growing is dead. We
know that. Right. So in your that how you love
to be alone? I was like that as a little girl.
I just I loved being by myself. And I have
a creative mind as well. Right, And so as you

(31:50):
walk with the Lord and protect your solitude because I
know you must have to do that at times.

Speaker 6 (31:55):
Right, Yes, absolutely?

Speaker 4 (31:58):
How do you what is your training ground? How how
else did the Holy Spirit train you? And it is
training you as a as an intercessor and as a prophet.
Talk about the training because you didn't get it from
a man? Correct that?

Speaker 6 (32:16):
Yeah? Absolutely, that's that.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
That's the answer right there, There will be though I've
had wonderful mentors and those that helped lay the foundation.
They're gone now. I mentioned them in my book. As
a matter of fact, I was looking at it this morning.
They're five of them. That was so pivotal, That was
so pivotal in my life as a young woman. So yes,

(32:39):
I do I guard that solitude. I guard that with
not accepting or saying yes to.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
A lot of things. Who you come over here and tray,
can you be over here? Can you do that? No?

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Because if I am on a false assignment, and what
would be false to me might be true to you.
If I'm on a false assignment that he hasn't sent
me on, something is happening. It's not good, something, the
ball is being dropped. Somebody's life may be in danger

(33:22):
because I have neglected my true assignment or just simply
being still and listening to him.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
Another thing you said in your book that I thought
was interesting. You said, my life choice is one where
I have a consistent reverence for the presence of the Lord.
And this is one thing that used to bother me
until the Lord told me it wasn't my business. But
I have I used to watch There were times when
I would be just in a place with the Lord

(33:51):
just in worship and you know, in the service, and
some people would tap me, just tap me because they
wanted to get by or you know something, and I
would jump and then sometimes I would see, you know,
people are right photographing things, videoing. God got to help
me with this. The presence of the Lord where he
is working in someone else's life. Talk to us about

(34:15):
reverencing the presence of the Lord.

Speaker 6 (34:18):
Okay, to Reverence. As you just spoke to Reverence.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
The presence of the Lord is to guard yourself from
the sneak attacks of the enemy.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
Just as you just described. That's a sneak attack.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
Yeah, you you you're you're here with him and someone's
tapping you on your on your shoulder. You're here with
him because you're interceding, because you're you're watching the masses
and someone is taking a picture. Okay, So you have
to guard your your your spirit with that. There's something

(35:00):
that I say in my book concerning prayer. Jesus said
that man should always pray and never ever give up.
I use the term it is a life choice, not
a style.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
For me. It's not a lifestyle or just like hair pants.
They calm and they go, but you have to choose. Wow,
intercessors have to choose to pray without ceasing to pray
when they don't feel like it, to guard themselves to yes,

(35:40):
be alone again. I'm not talking about being locked up
in a room bumping your head going Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
There are things I still enjoy life, okay, But having
that awareness of Him in your heart all the time.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
And being alert. I call it my intercessory compass.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
I believe I wrote about it, and that's a lot
of times when you see me moving about, my compass,
my intercessory compass is going off. Okay, I've got to
follow that, which is the Holy Spirit, the spirit of
prayer is telling me to move about. So we have
to guard that. And sometimes it makes us seem like
we are anti social, yeah, or peculiar or stuck up

(36:23):
or something like that, or just you're not able to
deal with.

Speaker 6 (36:26):
It's not that at all. It's not that at all.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
It's that we have an awareness and a knowing and
a hearing from Him all the time, even in the
grocery store. I'll give you a great example, and I
believe I may have written about this. One time I
was at the grocery store, and the Lord said to me.
He says, I want you to go to the next aisle.
Oh yeah, stand, there's going to be a man that

(36:51):
will come down that aisle with a checker's shirt on.
I want you to begin to intercede for him out
of your belly, don't move your mouth.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
Enough.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
The moment I got there, here come the guy with
the check of shirt, and God had me to begin
to just intercede for him. He never knew it. I
didn't say a word. I just looked like I was
getting some groceries as he passed by.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
How do we know what.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Was going on with him? But obviously God was mindful
of him. And that's the awareness that I say that
we must be in all the time and still be
able to function and.

Speaker 6 (37:31):
Have fun and do certains.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Even if I'm at an event enjoying myself, my compass
is always on.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
It's like your internal audience.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
You can't okay, So you cannot go anywhere without that
that intercession, that spirit of prayer. You told me, laughing
and dancing and having a good time, but waiting on him,
and somebody danced right by.

Speaker 4 (37:57):
You see for him, My god, my God, my God,
my God, I love it. I love it. We talked
that was again with another brother in Christ, and we
talked about the difference between discernment and discerning of spirits.
Write Scripture. One of the gifts the power gifts is
the discerning of spirits. And that's something that I experienced

(38:24):
but didn't know what it was, many many many times,
but didn't know what it was. Do you would you
say that the intercessor has that gift.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
They must have it.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
The intercessor must have it because you're always God is
gonna always be using you. Again, remember that I said,
we're pulling down the invisible things that you cannot see. Okay,
So the intercessor must have that. That's what causes her
or him to move quickly because they hear that sound.

(39:02):
Discernment and discerning of spirits is a sound just like
I shared with you.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
When the Lord will send me to certain.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Places, I'm discerning the ruling spirits in that region.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
Then I would know how to begin to target.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
And that's one of the things that I'll just say,
teach for the I like to say, encouraged, I teach
other young intercessors that.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
I know of intercessors. Again, you. You got to be
very aware of who God is sending you.

Speaker 4 (39:37):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
The people that have come to me and said, well,
miss Rachel, we respect the God and you can you
can you mentor me? And if he doesn't tell me
to do it, I won't touch it. And I've told
them that you have to you have to be there.
So that's one of the things that I encourage them.
And you get that by studying your word, by his presence,

(40:00):
and by being that cup that He will pour out.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
I love it. Listen, we're coming up on almost the
end of the time. This has gone by so fast, Audie,
come on, I know you have something to share. I
am so sorry that the time has gone by. Audrey,
come on, Sis.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
This has been great and you know I got questions,
and so Reverend boy this is you said a lot.
You said a lot of great stuff, but I gotta
tell you it was one thing that stuck out and
I have to ask you handle this.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Over the last probably a year, I've been.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Saying, man like, I've just been knowing things and I'm
so aware and people be lying and I'm knowing they lying,
and I keep saying to people, man, how lest people
stop doing it because I know they're not telling the truth.
I know that this is I know right, and I
just keep but they keep doing it.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
So when you know something and people keep doing the thing.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
When you know people are jealous and they're envious cause
you know, you just know, how do you handle being
around those people? They're not bad people, but you know
that they're envy, you know they're jealous, you know they're lying.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
How do you handle that?

Speaker 6 (41:06):
Because you know? Right well, I go to what the
Word of God says. He says, be in the world.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
We're gonna have that kind all the time. We're gonna
we're gonna have that all the time. But what I
see that's happening for you. You said this has been
going on for about a year. What I see is
happening to you. There is a strong Now this is
the prophet standing up now. There is a strong prophetic
gift in you that God is training you in to

(41:37):
be able to understand and to be able to to
see discerning their telling lies and discernment.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
So that is that is your portion. So that's what's
happening with you.

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Lean into it because we're gonna always have that kind.

Speaker 6 (41:52):
We're gonna always have that kind until Jesus come home.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Wow, you don't lean into that.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
Yeah, you don't have to take them into your bosom.
You don't have to take them into your bosom, you know,
but just just lean into it because he's training you.
And some things I don't know if I said it before,
some things only God will.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
Teach us in these gifts. Only God in these gifts. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
So she's not telling me to lean into the relationship.
She tells you to lean into the teaching of the
Holy Spirit.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
Absolutely, absolutely, that's exactly what I'm saying, leaning to the teaching.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yeah, because he's he's And I believe that because my
daughter told me earlier, she said, you're becoming a hermit
because I have to protake my space, I have to
take my energy. I don't want to be around people.
She said, you're becoming a hermit. I was like, no,
I just I just like me, just.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
Like being home. So wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:50):
And you know what I've been called the hermit, hermits,
hermits of people that that can just be to them
say they've become withdrawn and it does have a religious
element to it, as opposed to them being a nomad.
Or no madager, just somebody that's just moving about. But yeah,
I can we we can be like that.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
We can be like that. Yeah, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Thank you so much. I'm glad she gave you. God
sent a word to you today or you praise God. Well,
Reverend Rachel, we want to give you the last word.
What would you like to say to our listening audience today?
Mm hmm. See, we're not going for this. Yeah, we

(43:40):
got we have to have her back now. I don't
know if she's going to be able to come back
up before we go off, but I pray that she does.
And I'm so grateful that she was able to keep
that camera from freezing that you know, God did it
while she was able to minister to us today. But
Reverend Rachel, can you hear us? Okay? Well listen, we

(44:03):
thank you so much for joining us today where we
have Reverend Rachel talk about Born to Intercede? Buy the
book here, she is here, she is give us the
last word? And how can people buy your book? What
do they need? What information do they need to purchase
your book? Born to Intercede? Can you hear us? Can

(44:34):
you hear us?

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Yes? Okay, Doctor Chan can you hear me.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Now we can yes. We want you to hear your
last word. Yes, and tell us how we.

Speaker 6 (44:44):
Kind of pact. Okay.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
The way you can purchase my book is go to
ww dot g r T cares c A r e
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Speaker 6 (44:56):
Where you can can purchase the book.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
Okay, last word okay, g r T cares dot org.
G r T cares dot org. Okay, did you get it? Okay,
that's where you can you can purchase him.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
And what I would I would like to encourage your listeners.
If God has called you to this position, we definitely
need you.

Speaker 6 (45:29):
H with all that's going on in the world.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Ah, don't be concerned about what you see, but be
concerned with what God is telling you to pray about
and let him do the work. Jesus said that man
should always pray and never ever give up. Don't look

(45:56):
for a manifestation because the manifestation this is going to happen,
but you just be obedient. And those that are not
yet where I am again, I haven't arrived. Keep on praying,
keep on seeking him, and keep on studying God's words.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
God bless you, hey man, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Thank you, thank you so much for agreeing to come
on today. I believe we've heard from God. What do
you think, Audrey?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I do too. Listen, Doctor Tim got some great friends.
Don't you have great friends?

Speaker 6 (46:31):
Y'all?

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Have you missed all her other friends? Go back and
listen to the past episode. She has some amazing friends.
Thank you so much, Reverend Rachel for just being here,
Doctor Tim. Thank you for always bringing us great, great,
great people of God and sharing their wisdom so freely
and so you know, so happily.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
So thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Last words from you before I close it out.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Doctor team, listen, I just want to encourage all intercests
her or not. Pray, pray, pray, read your Bible. Do
not be biblically illiterate. Yes, so much is going on.
Do not be biblically illiterate. I love you, peace.

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