March 21, 2025 • 9 mins
Todd Walker was joined in studio by 4th District Congressman Jim Jordan on Friday morning.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're talking with Congressman Jim Jordan joining us in studio. Jim,
good morning, Good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Todd.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well, I guess a lot of things on your plate.
But when you get back to d C here, you
are going to have a hearing and it's going to,
I guess, deal with some of these rulings from what
district judges that are overthrowing of national policy from the president.
There's a lot of consternation about that.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, and we've already taken some action legislatively. We've we've
passed a bill a couple of weeks ago out of committee.
The bill said, instead of some judge in you know,
Tim bucktoo, California, there's some federal district judge issuing a
ruling that applies to the entire country, we think it
should apply just to the parties of the case in
that respective jurisdiction. Where again, you don't have these these
(00:43):
judges overruling the guy elected by we the people, who
is the head of the executive branch making making these
these these huge decisions and changing policy. I always I
actually think it's a it's almost a more fundamental issue,
is like the left, the left doesn't really like the
(01:04):
idea of the person who gets elected by we the
people making the decisions. They want to quote experts in
the bureaucracy or in the judiciary who who are unelected.
They want those people because they're smarter than us hillbilities
in God's country, you know, and when it comes to
making decisions. But that's not how our constitution works. Article two,
Section one, first sentence, Executive power shall be invested in
a president, not in a judge, not in doctor Fauci,
(01:28):
but in a president. So that's the fundamental issue. And
we're gonna we're looking to have some hearings on this
and and you know, like I said, all options are
on the table when it comes to these judges.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, and this practice is fairly new. It didn't happen
much in back in the day at all.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, it's it's it's really it's happened some with with presidents,
but never to the degree like what the left is
done to President Try Jesus had exponentially more of these
injunctions and judges over ruling policy decisions that that the
administration is making.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
The Other thing, of course, there are lots of handwringing
about the Department of education. The President is basically neutering it.
He can't eliminate it himself. You guys would have to
do that. By that, I mean, Congress, what is your
feeling on the ability to actually do that in totality?
And is it necessary if the president renders it sort
(02:22):
of useless?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, I think I love what the President said to
Lynda McMahon, Secretary of Education.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
McMahon.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
He said, Linda, I want you to go. You know,
your job is to get rid of your job. And
she's a good lady, a wonderful, wonderful talented individual. And yeah,
I'm forgetting rid of the Department of Education. I mean,
the average salary there, I think is one hundred and
forty four thousand dollars. So ask yourself a simple question.
Who has a bigger impact on the kid in the classroom?
(02:50):
The teacher making half that, right, the teacher making half
of that, who actually interacts with the student every day,
or the bureaucut in DC making twice the money. And
probably probably all the stupid rules and regulations, probably the
requirements put on the teacher actually make the teacher take
time away from interacting with the student. So yeah, let's
(03:11):
get rid of and for every dollar that comes to
Lime of Public schools or Allen County schools, any school.
For every dollar, there's probably ten people in DC makeing
one hundred and forty four thousand taken part of that
money before it ever gets It's like, of course, we
should get rid of this and just take some of
the money for deficit reduction and give the rest to
(03:31):
local schools on a per capita basis, send it back
to the schools and let the administrators, the teachers, the parents,
the school boards decide how to spend those dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Fourth District Congressman Jim Jordan's with us, of course, the
you guys, the Republicans, I say, colloquially passed a continuing
resolution with only one Republican voting against it. That is
now in force. But now is the real challenge. You
guys got to come up with a real budget, an
actual budget, try and get that through with the Trump
tax cuts. Do you see your role in host helping that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
The House is past the budget to already as well?
And part of this reconciliation, which I always say is
the fancy word we use to to avoid the sixty
vote hurdle, there's all these complicated Senate rules, but if
you're focused on revenue and expenditures, you can avoid the
sixty vote hurdle when when you put together a budget
and then do a reconciliation package that that accompanies that.
(04:23):
So we're in that process. It's important we get that
done because that's that's where we're going to make sure
we extend the tax cuts that have been in place
for you know, seven years, and and we do some
things on energy and border policy that are going to
further help us secure the border. So we just got
to get that done. The speakers indicated he wants the
timeline he's he wants to see happen is by by
(04:46):
by the end of May. I think that's great. Let's
let's let's get after it. And that'll be a big focus
when we get back.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's going to be a lot harder than the cr
because we've got a lot of little fiefdoms and people
have their pride and their pet projects, their pet issues.
So you guys got a lot of work to do,
and soia some arm twisting here we do.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And we got a small majority, so you can't lose
many Republican votes, maybe only one, maybe two. We got
some open seats where we're going to have an election.
We think we're going to win those seats in Florida,
so we'll pick up a few members, but it's still
a very tight margin. Now, sometimes that's not all bad
because when it's so tight, everyone just realizes we got
to stick together if we're going to get done what
(05:25):
we told the voters we're going to do. And the
one thing I've been so impressed with with the Trump
administration is I've never seen a pace, an intensity, a
focus like we've seen in the first eight and a
half weeks of this administrator. I mean, you talk about
doing what they said they were going to do and
doing it with an intensity and a focus and a
pace that's unprecedented. I think the American people appreciate that,
(05:49):
and so we need to keep that in mind and
stick together as Republicans and get this done.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
What about the cuts that have been made through DOGE.
I know they've had to repair some of the things.
Maybe they've inadvertly done things they didn't mean to, but
it seems to me they've been open to admitting mistakes
and fixing them rather quickly. Right.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, And the vast majority of things they've identified are stupid,
stupid spending.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
As I always.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Tell people there, there have been these efforts before, and
there's been a group around DC for thirty some years,
the Citizens against Government WAYE. Tom Shots, a great group,
but there's never been the focus where you had a
president campaign on the issue, say that the organization is
going to be called DOGE, indicate to the people of
the country who's going to be leading it in Elon
Musk and then having him come in and function with
(06:36):
the intensity and focus that we've seen. So I think
it's great. What we'll have to do is the administration
can sort of stop the spending, but they can't reclaim
the dollars until we in Congress actually rescind that that
money because the money has been appropriated for take USAID
for an example, to USAID, and there are certain programs
that are designed to foster goodwill with foreign countries and YadA, YadA, YadA,
(06:59):
but there's never we never get down to the granular
level that like, no one knew that you were actually
spending it on a transgender comic performance in Ireland or
for Sesame Street to be on Iraqi television. And once
we find out that detailed. Well, we need to rescind
that money. We need to get that money back in
the treasury for deficit reduction or to be spent on
(07:21):
something more, something appropriate, like our military. So that recision
package is coming too, and that'll be important.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah. I guess final thoughts of the cutbacks of the
DEI policies, specifically as it pertains to the military, seem
to be a huge positive and there's been some blowback,
but it looks like the military recruiting is up, morale
is up right.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
The recruitment. President talked about this in the State of
the Union. You know, recruitment had been down for so
many years under Biden, and now they're they're they're meeting
their recruitment goals and exceeding them according to the latest
data we've gotten what the President said at the State
of the Union. So that's that's a great sign. And
it's because you know, people want to fight. I think
for people willing to put their lives on the line
(08:04):
and join our military when you have a commander in
chief who projects strength, who has common sense. I mean
President talks about this all the time. We're now the
party just common sense that the left, which controls the
Democrat parties. As Sarah Huckabee Sanders said, is the party crazy.
It's crazy not to have a border. It's crazy to
defund the police. It's crazy let men compete against women
in sports. It's crazy for a judge to say, turn
(08:26):
the plane around, bring back hardened gang member criminals who
did terrible things who were here illegally. Turn that plane
around and bring bad guys back to the country. That
might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but we
had to judge do that just last weekend. And you're like,
this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, well you're going to be talking about that judge
and more at your hearings when you get out.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Exactly are there'll be I think a focus on Judge Boseburg,
because you know, the appropriate remedy for bad judicial decisions
is the appellate courts. But when you have a judge
who's who looks like they're functioning in in such a
political manner. And remember the history of this particular judge.
He's the guy who was on the FISA court who
(09:05):
gave some who allowed the warrants to spy on the
President Trump's campaign back in twenty sixteen. I think this
is a special case where warranted hearings and maybe some
other remedies.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Certainly a historic time in Washington right now. Congressman, we
appreciate you stopping by.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Thank you,
We're talking with Congressman Jim Jordan joining us in studio. Jim,
good morning, Good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Todd.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well, I guess a lot of things on your plate.
But when you get back to d C here, you
are going to have a hearing and it's going to,
I guess, deal with some of these rulings from what
district judges that are overthrowing of national policy from the president.
There's a lot of consternation about that.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, and we've already taken some action legislatively. We've we've
passed a bill a couple of weeks ago out of committee.
The bill said, instead of some judge in you know,
Tim bucktoo, California, there's some federal district judge issuing a
ruling that applies to the entire country, we think it
should apply just to the parties of the case in
that respective jurisdiction. Where again, you don't have these these
(00:43):
judges overruling the guy elected by we the people, who
is the head of the executive branch making making these
these these huge decisions and changing policy. I always I
actually think it's a it's almost a more fundamental issue,
is like the left, the left doesn't really like the
(01:04):
idea of the person who gets elected by we the
people making the decisions. They want to quote experts in
the bureaucracy or in the judiciary who who are unelected.
They want those people because they're smarter than us hillbilities
in God's country, you know, and when it comes to
making decisions. But that's not how our constitution works. Article two,
Section one, first sentence, Executive power shall be invested in
a president, not in a judge, not in doctor Fauci,
(01:28):
but in a president. So that's the fundamental issue. And
we're gonna we're looking to have some hearings on this
and and you know, like I said, all options are
on the table when it comes to these judges.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, and this practice is fairly new. It didn't happen
much in back in the day at all.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, it's it's it's really it's happened some with with presidents,
but never to the degree like what the left is
done to President Try Jesus had exponentially more of these
injunctions and judges over ruling policy decisions that that the
administration is making.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
The Other thing, of course, there are lots of handwringing
about the Department of education. The President is basically neutering it.
He can't eliminate it himself. You guys would have to
do that. By that, I mean, Congress, what is your
feeling on the ability to actually do that in totality?
And is it necessary if the president renders it sort
(02:22):
of useless?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Well, I think I love what the President said to
Lynda McMahon, Secretary of Education.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
McMahon.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
He said, Linda, I want you to go. You know,
your job is to get rid of your job. And
she's a good lady, a wonderful, wonderful talented individual. And yeah,
I'm forgetting rid of the Department of Education. I mean,
the average salary there, I think is one hundred and
forty four thousand dollars. So ask yourself a simple question.
Who has a bigger impact on the kid in the classroom?
(02:50):
The teacher making half that, right, the teacher making half
of that, who actually interacts with the student every day,
or the bureaucut in DC making twice the money. And
probably probably all the stupid rules and regulations, probably the
requirements put on the teacher actually make the teacher take
time away from interacting with the student. So yeah, let's
(03:11):
get rid of and for every dollar that comes to
Lime of Public schools or Allen County schools, any school.
For every dollar, there's probably ten people in DC makeing
one hundred and forty four thousand taken part of that
money before it ever gets It's like, of course, we
should get rid of this and just take some of
the money for deficit reduction and give the rest to
(03:31):
local schools on a per capita basis, send it back
to the schools and let the administrators, the teachers, the parents,
the school boards decide how to spend those dollars.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Fourth District Congressman Jim Jordan's with us, of course, the
you guys, the Republicans, I say, colloquially passed a continuing
resolution with only one Republican voting against it. That is
now in force. But now is the real challenge. You
guys got to come up with a real budget, an
actual budget, try and get that through with the Trump
tax cuts. Do you see your role in host helping that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
The House is past the budget to already as well?
And part of this reconciliation, which I always say is
the fancy word we use to to avoid the sixty
vote hurdle, there's all these complicated Senate rules, but if
you're focused on revenue and expenditures, you can avoid the
sixty vote hurdle when when you put together a budget
and then do a reconciliation package that that accompanies that.
(04:23):
So we're in that process. It's important we get that
done because that's that's where we're going to make sure
we extend the tax cuts that have been in place
for you know, seven years, and and we do some
things on energy and border policy that are going to
further help us secure the border. So we just got
to get that done. The speakers indicated he wants the
timeline he's he wants to see happen is by by
(04:46):
by the end of May. I think that's great. Let's
let's let's get after it. And that'll be a big focus
when we get back.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's going to be a lot harder than the cr
because we've got a lot of little fiefdoms and people
have their pride and their pet projects, their pet issues.
So you guys got a lot of work to do,
and soia some arm twisting here we do.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And we got a small majority, so you can't lose
many Republican votes, maybe only one, maybe two. We got
some open seats where we're going to have an election.
We think we're going to win those seats in Florida,
so we'll pick up a few members, but it's still
a very tight margin. Now, sometimes that's not all bad
because when it's so tight, everyone just realizes we got
to stick together if we're going to get done what
(05:25):
we told the voters we're going to do. And the
one thing I've been so impressed with with the Trump
administration is I've never seen a pace, an intensity, a
focus like we've seen in the first eight and a
half weeks of this administrator. I mean, you talk about
doing what they said they were going to do and
doing it with an intensity and a focus and a
pace that's unprecedented. I think the American people appreciate that,
(05:49):
and so we need to keep that in mind and
stick together as Republicans and get this done.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
What about the cuts that have been made through DOGE.
I know they've had to repair some of the things.
Maybe they've inadvertly done things they didn't mean to, but
it seems to me they've been open to admitting mistakes
and fixing them rather quickly. Right.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, And the vast majority of things they've identified are stupid,
stupid spending.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
As I always.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Tell people there, there have been these efforts before, and
there's been a group around DC for thirty some years,
the Citizens against Government WAYE. Tom Shots, a great group,
but there's never been the focus where you had a
president campaign on the issue, say that the organization is
going to be called DOGE, indicate to the people of
the country who's going to be leading it in Elon
Musk and then having him come in and function with
(06:36):
the intensity and focus that we've seen. So I think
it's great. What we'll have to do is the administration
can sort of stop the spending, but they can't reclaim
the dollars until we in Congress actually rescind that that
money because the money has been appropriated for take USAID
for an example, to USAID, and there are certain programs
that are designed to foster goodwill with foreign countries and YadA, YadA, YadA,
(06:59):
but there's never we never get down to the granular
level that like, no one knew that you were actually
spending it on a transgender comic performance in Ireland or
for Sesame Street to be on Iraqi television. And once
we find out that detailed. Well, we need to rescind
that money. We need to get that money back in
the treasury for deficit reduction or to be spent on
(07:21):
something more, something appropriate, like our military. So that recision
package is coming too, and that'll be important.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah. I guess final thoughts of the cutbacks of the
DEI policies, specifically as it pertains to the military, seem
to be a huge positive and there's been some blowback,
but it looks like the military recruiting is up, morale
is up right.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
The recruitment. President talked about this in the State of
the Union. You know, recruitment had been down for so
many years under Biden, and now they're they're they're meeting
their recruitment goals and exceeding them according to the latest
data we've gotten what the President said at the State
of the Union. So that's that's a great sign. And
it's because you know, people want to fight. I think
for people willing to put their lives on the line
(08:04):
and join our military when you have a commander in
chief who projects strength, who has common sense. I mean
President talks about this all the time. We're now the
party just common sense that the left, which controls the
Democrat parties. As Sarah Huckabee Sanders said, is the party crazy.
It's crazy not to have a border. It's crazy to
defund the police. It's crazy let men compete against women
in sports. It's crazy for a judge to say, turn
(08:26):
the plane around, bring back hardened gang member criminals who
did terrible things who were here illegally. Turn that plane
around and bring bad guys back to the country. That
might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but we
had to judge do that just last weekend. And you're like,
this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, well you're going to be talking about that judge
and more at your hearings when you get out.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Exactly are there'll be I think a focus on Judge Boseburg,
because you know, the appropriate remedy for bad judicial decisions
is the appellate courts. But when you have a judge
who's who looks like they're functioning in in such a
political manner. And remember the history of this particular judge.
He's the guy who was on the FISA court who
(09:05):
gave some who allowed the warrants to spy on the
President Trump's campaign back in twenty sixteen. I think this
is a special case where warranted hearings and maybe some
other remedies.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Certainly a historic time in Washington right now. Congressman, we
appreciate you stopping by.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Thank you,
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