"Bunny" RECAP!

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Wellthough, there's just this assumption that it's the like it's
the best episode. I was like, well, and I did
against that.

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A little bit.

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You had not even seen it is a confession, and
you know, and we've talked about it so much.

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I felt like I had and then I started watching
it and we're like, oh my god, I haven't seen
this and it's.

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it all time. You see why everyone's made with a
big even when I said, you know, we haven't recapped
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we have, and I was like, no, we I just
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(03:31):
of water. We're gonna get to this. Dean has had
his come to Jesus moment with this episode because this
is where and for me, that's sort of really for me,
that's saying something.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yes, he had not seen it until this time.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I just I can't believe you hadn't seen it. Okay,
So okay, we're recapping.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (04:00):
So today we're talking about everd It.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
Yeah, so we're talking about episode two, episode two of
season three.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
This is Funny Heaven Bunny, Oh my.

Speaker 6 (04:13):
God Bunny premiered on October fourth, nineteen seventy six. This
is sort of interesting that Michael wrote and directed this one.
Michael generally did season premieres, which he probably did.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
I mean, this.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
Is so immediately preceding this was the collection with Johnny
Cash and then we come to this and we go
I mean, this season started off explosively good.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
This was really really good. So written and directed by
Michael Allison. What is Bunny Hut not about?

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
So insane this episode. So, you know, normally Nelly does
things that try to ruin Laura's life, you know, ruin
things for her. In this episode, Nelly, at the age
of thirteen fourteen, manages to try to destroy the lives
and cause serious problems for adults for everyone in the town.

(05:10):
She causes problems for every single person in the town,
drags them into her thirteen fourteen year old drama, like
what is going on? So, as we may remember from
Plum Creek Christmas, Laura, you know, I repossessed her horse,
I repote a horse, I got her horse, and that
was never going to end well. And here's the proof.
So I am tormenting her horse.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Abusing the horse. Let's say it like it is just
beating the horse.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Of course, there winds up being a horrible accident, of course,
but unlike the normal things it would ensue. I apparently
Nellie decides that the solution to everything is to pretend
to be paralyzed. This escalates into the most bonkers episode
of anything and results in the infamous we all know what,
we all love it down the Hill hit in a

(06:00):
wheelchair sequence in other countries French ups and the one
with a yeah and I go this is the international
sign for downhill in a wheelchair. That's with this episode
is they go the down the hill in the wheelchair episode?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Oh yes, I mean this is the episode that even
people that don't know Little House on the Prairie they
know this. Yeah, they know this.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
You go on YouTube, The down the Hill and the
wheelchair sequence is on a loop. There's a place where
you can just watch me go down the hill with
wheelchair over in vond over and over again, and it
never gets old. I have done shows where I show
people this clip at the very end and then I
come out in the wheelchair and I think, well, they've
seen this clip ten thousand times. And I hear I'm like,

(06:40):
y'all seen this ten thousand times? Okay, Yeah, it's for
some reason, there's something so weird about this episode that
it like just sends people over the edge. I of
course absolutely love it and every single thing I do
in it, because it's it's it's well, it's.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Awesome, it's awesome. It really true. Is some some fun
things about this one.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
Bunny the horse was sometimes described as male, sometimes as female.
Bunny was male in Christmas at Plumb Creek, female in Bunny,
then male in the race the next.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Episode weird, I think our race and.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Then female again and Journey into Spring.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
You're right again. So I think our show is way
more progressive than people give it.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Absolutely, my god, we.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Had a character. I mean, Bunny was whoever Bunny felt
that they were, and we did not question.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
But it didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Funny. I don't know what happened with Funny. It was
very strange. Nobody seemed to remember whether Bunny was a
boy or girl, and no one seemed to question it.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
No, and why would you care? I mean it did,
it didn't matter except me. Yeah, and the horse doesn't know.
So a couple of reviews that I read on IMDb.
If you ever want to watch an episode where Nelly
and Harriet are evil.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
This is the episode to watch.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
I don't think there's another episode that shows just how nasty.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
These two can be. I mean, it's like off the charts.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
It is awesome.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Another one, the second one, this episode. I'm just gonna
get this.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
This episode of one is one of Nellie's absolute finest,
master level head games, and she spares.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
No one truth. Bless that mean bitter, lonely little girl.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yes, bless her. It's just warms the heart the way
we can let the episode again, like so many episodes
where Laura and Nelly, it's about a boy, a boy.
French love this episode, but of course it is about jealousy.
It is a boy and it's about a boy again.

(08:46):
This one is always Johnny Johnson.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Is it Jason?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Jason?

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Is Jason again?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
It is one of the main many Shay brothers. No
one knows how many.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Ic Eric Shay right when this.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
One is is it? Eric? I have to change. It's
Sha who's the presidside adventure kid. Awesome. Yeah, the Shae
family had a bunch of kids and they all worked.
They were extremely talented and they were in many, many movies,
TV shows, and it reached a point where my mother
once said, I think you are they cloning them in
a lab. I don't know where they come from. There's

(09:18):
always another Shaye brother because it was like different age groups,
so like everyone had worked with one of the Shads.
It's like, well, Shaye generation.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Well, Nelly is a thirsty, thirsty, thirst trap of a girl.
She's so I mean, you realize by the time she
gets to Perceval like she has been longing for someone
since she was a child, obviously because she is such
a thirst trap. At the top of the episode, you know,
Laura's a little late for school because she gives a

(09:47):
horse to Bunny, which Nelly does not like. Because Nellie
Oh and Fray apple fake apple on tree which we
never see an apple tree.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
One apple glued to apple, an apple cle for the
supermarket from Gelson's glued to the tree and she snatches
it off and we have no often in that.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Part, scattering, there's shattering dreams right now, hearing the truth
this was only.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
One apple on the tree, though that didn't he didn't
clue win for you and the boy boy and I'm
like boy and of course he now mister Shay was sixteen.
I was just turned fourteen, and Remiss was twelve. All
and most sixteen year olds do not. They certainly don't
wish to day a twelve year old. But even though

(10:32):
they were just fishing, it was olvery chase they were
friends of. Most sixteen year old boys don't even go
say yeah, bring the twelve year old along, I want
to go. They find twelve year old annoying. How the
heck we're supposed to buy that the twelve year old
had this long standing relationship with the sixteen year old
where they went fishing, to the point that he didn't
want anything to do with me. Is weird, But that
was a thing on the show. Get Jason for me, Yeah, And.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
It just it feeds, It just feeds.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
They could have cast a boy whose voice had not
changed yet, perhaps, but you know, hindsight.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
One of his younger brothers who were of.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Right. But anyway, so Nelly doesn't like Laura feeding her
horse because she's like you're you're jealous of me and
you want your horse back and you think that you're
gonna be nice in the horse and look, she's awful.
And then even with Jason, his name is Jason, right,
even with Jason, she's such a thirst trap for him,
and she's totally just the first she tells Laura, I

(11:30):
hate you, and then she tells Jason, I hate you
and he's so no.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
Is that like a first time avert, like straight out
right and right to her face?

Speaker 5 (11:40):
I hate you? Is that?

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I think so too, because we just we definitely just
liked each other right away. I hate you. I was
just completely And then but the jealousy, the jealousy seat
has been planning because we had an episode big time
before the so we already know there's a thing going
on there where we're rivaling for Jason's attention. And so
it's it's hitting a fever pitch when this all goes down.

(12:04):
So that's the motive, is it's Jason starts the problem.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'se and you really please tell me that horse is okay.
I mean I'm assuming the horse was fine.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Horse somewhere off camera smoking a cigarette while drinking.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
My team and you weren't even sitting, you weren't really
actually on the horse.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Yeah, this was when I broke down a k I went,
not me, not mean to make for fun. I am
not on a horse. I can't ride. I still really
can't ride. I'm no longer pathologically terrified of horses, but
I don't ride. Uh. And this beautiful stunt woman, love her,
love her. She did a lot of stunts for me.
She's drink. So she's there riding that old horse. And
she's a very much grown up lady riding a horse.
And now watch closely, because everyone goes, okay, the poor horse,

(12:46):
watch the lady, the stunt lady that riding crop never
touches that animals anywhere near its body. The horse rears
up slightly. All of two times. The sounds are sound
effects put in later. They are faked. The horse is
not making those noises. The horse was actually happening, because
I watched them. She was sitting on it, and she's

(13:09):
like right around. She goes up, and the horse goes, oh,
there's the little up trick. And then she rides down
the circle, waves the whip around nowhere near the horse,
waving it overhead and goes up and the horse goes
and then they go horsey, and Horsey gets care and
goes away, and.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
Then exactly so, these are exactly the kinds of scenes
that Allison's describing right now, are exactly the kinds of
scenes of why everything that was shot Exteriorate Big Sky
was looped because there was so much going on with horses, wagons, noises, harnesses.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
All of that.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
In this case, directing a horse to perform in a
particular way that had been trained to perform.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
You have to recreate all that audio.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
And they're putting in the sound of a horse, good horsey,
good horse.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
That maybe feel so much better. Honestly, I mean, I
knew the horse wasn't in danger. I knew that the
wall time, but it's really nice to hear what actually
was happening, so that any kind of thoughts you might
have about concern for this horse or down the toilet,
we're good.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Then I get on a ladder. I am standing on
a ladder and I'm beating the big Jesus out of
that ladder with.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
That right, You're not even like straddling a saddle or
anything a ladder.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm in a big metal hardware store ladder.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think that's right because it's the closes, because it's
the close crop of your hitting right.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yes, yeah, yeah, And I'm beating the fourth thing with
the ladder and then I get off the ladder, and
then the horsey comes back. And again, notice there's no
rearing even in that second sequence. Squatch closely. Horse doesn't
even because he's already done. The trick horse is doing
nothing but being ridden. She again, she's going and off
the go fake horse from some movie soundtrack from forty
years old. Something is being and she takes off, touches

(15:00):
the horse. But again if you watch, if you see it,
it's with the music and the horse is screen. You're like,
oh no no. If you watch it closely, turn off
the sound and watch it, you can.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Wait up, okay, I'm gonna do that next.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yes, takes off. I get like, try it with the
sound off. Watch nothing has happened to that. A horse
riding crops nowhere she takes off bad out of hell
horses having a great time running cross prey then got
too sitting in a box, indeed an apple box. Now,
how in the hell do I get hit in the
face with the tree branch because when you watch it.
And this is where I sat there and I watched

(15:31):
it like two or three times because I went, does
it look good? Because it can't still look good? Because
I remember how we did it.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
And I went this on.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
The TV with the Amazon the best definition pause, a
big TV. I look and I'm going I would think
I just got a tree branch in the face. Oh
my god. So I'm like wondering, how are they gonna
do this to me. I'm a little concerned because it's
is in the script I run free banch in the face.
I'm like, that's not gonna be pleasant. And they're like,
here you go. So I'm sitting on a box and
the guys on got a rally and the boys are there.

(16:02):
Two guys have a giant sheet of plexiglass of plastic
and they've even got a guy with windex in a
cloth to make sure there's no marks that did give
us away. That is completely clear. Third guy, tree branch.
He's ready, yumpty, dumpty, dumpty dumpty go and they swing
that tree branch and slam it into the plexia. No,
the plexi glass is pretty close to my face. They're like,

(16:25):
don't don't lean forward because that would hurt if you
were touching it. And it's right there, and that tree
banch hits that plexila and I go ah, and I
fall off the box. I fall off my box and
we did it a couple of times. And I enjoyed
this enormously because I was like, oh, this is Oh,
I've been hit with the tree batch oh and I
fall down and I so much fun, and I went,
Who's gonna believe this? But I watched it.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I watched it yesterday and it looks like I got
hit with the I am gag at this very moment
because the idea that there's plexi glass in front of
you and the branch is heading. I mean that, like
my mind is doing right now. That's insane and it
works so well.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
It works, so you know, the horse he was not
hurt anymore. It's the same nonsense it's going on here.
And then I get to lay down under a tree.
I kind of took a nap because there was a
lot going on.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
And what wasn't it, Alison? Wasn't it Basically as.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
You approached the branch, it's your point of view over
the horses heads, so you're not even really seeing the
horse at that point.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
It's really the brand is racing at you, or you're
racing at.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
The tree close up when it hits Yeah the horse,
the horse went home, but he's not.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Even the bus having a mazinie in a bus way.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
It was a good day.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, going back to his horse, Gondo, I can't. Hey,
hey baby, you haven't been.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
She wants to be in by too.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
And then I got to lay down with the lovely
fake blood pouring out of my nose, and it was
I was very comfortable. And it was in the shade,
which is get and see me a lot, and you know,
they were getting ready do stuff, and you know, and
they had the whole scene the girls you don't get
Doc Baker. So I was there for a while and
I actually I did doze off at one point. Is
lovely and it is very relaxing. And then we're doing
the like that zoom in with the dramatic music where

(18:14):
oh god, unconscious and so I'm just like this for
a reason.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
Now Doc Baker's office, he's still on the ground.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Okay, I'm waiting for them to say cut. I'm just
laying there laying they're going they're going to say cuts you.
I mean, I could lie here all day and then
I hear whispering and giggling. You know that giggle. You
know that Michael Landy giggler here whispered he God, and
then I feel, I feel, And Michael said keep it
rolling and stuck his finger in my nose so he
would have one of his many amusement. So that was

(18:45):
the cut. And wrote didn't he Yes, he wrote it everything.
He was there, He loved them, He came up with
all this stuff. So then yeah, we get back to
the thing. And then I'm I'm doctor. This is I love.
All right.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Let me just let me just take a break first.
Let me just tell you something from the perspective of
a child now watching the scene where Doc Baker examines Nelly,
and it's it's the list lid with the eye hello,
stuff of nightmares. But then the needle in the toes

(19:22):
and the feet is for a child, especially at for
an adult too, but for a child watches this is
the stuff of nightmares. It's the freakiest thing and it
and it's one of the things that stays with you.
It's like a oh God. The Nelly moment with the
needles and the feet like no, no, no, big impact.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Well big.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
So.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
But before that and I noticed this, I was watching
and Allison, this is all maybe to the two of you,
because you've watched this, and Alison, you were there. When
Doc Baker gets up, he goes back, He's taken his
reflective thing off.

Speaker 5 (19:59):
Nell's as what's what do you think?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Doc?

Speaker 5 (20:02):
And he's explaining what it is and in the foreground
shooting over Nellye onto them. Nellie's eyes open, she's looking, listening,
and her brain is spinning. What am I going to
do now?

Speaker 6 (20:19):
Because as soon as everyone turns back, of course, she
drops off.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
I think the plans started that early because my question was, oh, absolutely,
obviously must have had some kind of numbness in her feet,
because she actually does not feel No, you think she
felt it and didn't care.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Na, because first, okay, first of all, I was not hurt,
because if you notice the actual needle hitting the feet
in this super duper insert shot, clearly possibly shot on
another day with somebody else's foot, and I was not injured.
Although there's a master where Kevin our dark bed was
touching my feet with the needle and he used the
back of the needle. Oh, and did this and I went, oh,

(20:57):
I can't feel it. And it did not hurt. First
of all, after this is Kevin Hagen, who I know.
This is our doc Baker, this is my friend Kevin Hagen.
Kevin Hagen is not going to hurt me.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Neither.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
No needle. If they said we're going to see where
Kevin Hagen is going to hold a scalpel to your throat,
I would have said okay, and I would have been
completely unafriend So I was not concerned.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Tish feet either.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I am ticklish, but I'm weirdly not like not that
much like I don't have like a high painters but
like a sewing needle, and like okay, because they were
like can we they were almost like should we get
other feet? I'm like, use me because he tried it,
and I went, that doesn't been here.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
But also you know, also when you look at the
needle closely, it's a very dull needle. It has been
flattened out.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
It's not like but the thought of the needle is
is that after he takes the needle up, so he's
he's breaking her with the needle to see if there's
any and then he takes the new off, but there's
a mark on her foot, and that's the lasting impact
of like, oh my god, he was pressing so hard
that it even left a mark on my foot and
she didn't feel it.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
No, I think they went with the standard lady because
they maybe balked a little bit at poking the thirteen
fourteen girl with the needle in the foot. Maybe I
was totally game because when he was poking me for
the master Shop, I was like, that's that's it. That's
how hard that's gonna be. It didn't hurt. But the
great thing is when I'm sending go no, no, I
don't feel anything. I believed inter the date. This is

(22:29):
what I was going with was that yes he was
I did feel it because I was fine, and that
I felt it, but I had committed it so hard
to the bit that I was paralyzed. But I mean
that I was not gonna.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I would not argue against that, except the only exception
is later on when he wants to do it again
to her, when we all the audience now knows she
definitely is not paralyzed. She's like, no, I don't need it.
I don't need it. She's fighting hard against it hard. Yeah,
so it made me feel like I think she was
temporarily slightly numbed the first time.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Oh this was fake from one.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
When can you see when the plan happens? When when
they start talking about, oh, well, what's gonna happen, and
missus Olsen starts saying, yes, your fault lower ingles.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
You did this, you did that, and I go, also,
I have.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
I have hit gold hit the mother load here right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Hit the mother load. I've really done it. I can
get anything. Oh, this is going to be good. And
that's when I go, I can't feel my legs because
I as soon as I've heard that, I'm like, I'm in.
I'm going one hundred percent. And once is you know,
once Nelly commits to the bit, I have now committed
to being paralyzed. And I realized that, my god, the
things I can get out of this, it's just flashing

(23:49):
before my eyes. So sure, if he poked me and
I felt it and it hurt a little like having
been poked with the actual Needless is hit during the
Master Show, and it didn't hurt up front if he
was really doing it, Even if Nelly felt it, it
wasn't like painful painful.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
She would hurt you.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, she would say, if I can make it through
a couple of these rights, I'll get a doll from Paris,
I'll get chocolate. My god, what I can't do? So
she stuck it out. She psychopathed it and totally stuck
it out. And that's why I want to do it again.
She was like, look, that was performance of a lifetime.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
I had to really like, I can't do that right. Also,
another trade psychopath is abusing animals, so she absolutely is absolutely.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yes, this is the Nelly isn't psychopath. And I'd like
to say, also, you know when people say I can
do things with one arm tied behind my back, I
did because when he mentioned oh, her arm slight breaking
in the script, that was not there. It was just
me being paralyzed. But conveniently, as idiot would have it,
I went skateboarding a you had hurt your arm, and

(25:02):
I was my beautiful blue skateboard. I was left and
I was in the parking law where the bank is
on sunset. Anyway, I tipped over. I wasn't even doing
a good trick or anything. I just and I just
tipped over and helped. This was the seventies. I was
not wearing a helmet. I was not wearing wrist pads. Again,
bad bad. Everybody wears pads, no one.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
No one's like when I was, No one were. If
someone were a helmet like, they were made fun of.
It was unheard of. Yeah, nobody protective.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
You're in nineteen seventy six. So I fall over and
I whack my head into the pavement and I throw
my arm down. I instinctively go ah to safe myself,
to my jeans. I got a little tearra maide to
my knee, had a little nick on my knee. I did.
I had a bump on my head quite similar to
the one in the show. I did bash my head,
but I didn't bash it very hard because I all

(25:51):
of it was right here, gousing what they call a
green stick break in my left wrist, and it was all.
There's a long horrible story about how we did go
to the doctor right away because nobody believed I was
really hurt, and yeah, I got bad. But Monday and
the doctor's like, why are youstier now? But they said, yes,
your arm is broken. Dumb, dumb, And I got again

(26:12):
nineteen seventies, a big plaster, monstrous cast. It went all
the way up here, like I couldn't do a thing.
Michael autographed it. I cannot believe I didn't keep the cast.
I cannot believe I didn't keep the cad. My celautographed
everybody over there. But the scene was we had to
come in and show him the cast, and of course
my agent, being a good agent, lied and said, no,
it's a tiny little cast. It's nothing, it's nothing. And

(26:34):
I show up to the honking thing and Michael us so,
he looks at he autographs, it goes what do we do?

Speaker 3 (26:40):
He and Kent.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
He and Kent got off the board and they went,
what do we do? What do we do? And they go, okay,
if we shoot the we have an episode. She's not
in flip flip flip. Okay, we do this one. Oh well,
she's oh the wheelchair right, we'll say she broke her arm.
We say she broke her arm in the crick cast.
How long is that thing on for?

Speaker 5 (26:59):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well, in the race, you'll be down to the smaller
cast by then we can finagle done, done and done.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
So the race was was set up as the next episode,
but it was not shot that way.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
They literally reboarded production.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I think they snuck it. I know they snuck in
like one I wasn't in like right before. They tried
to stall as much as they could because they knew
I had like six weeks, and then so we staw
had the cast and so we put eighteen hundreds doctor
bakery sure class with the little boards and the thing. Now,
of course that led to like the with the wheelchair
you can use your other arm nor current.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
So you showed that later. Yes, so funny.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
So I have a real broken arm and fake everything else.
It's so weird. But that was the thing. Yeah, I
think Nelly totally went. I felt like she absolutely stuck
her with a needle, and she felt it and was
not going to crack for nothing because she mother load. Yeah,
she was going, yeah, it's so damnutly.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
So missus Olsen is so damn evil the way that
she is placing all of the blame. She little girl
is just evil, evil, evil evil.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I love that ninety by the way, I do love
that night.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
It's okay, so all right, so now we are.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Done insane things. Now I've run into a tree branch,
I've been stuck for the needles.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yes, and so now mon Pa, now we're back at home,
mom Pa know about Nelly. They're horrified by this. Poor
Laura is devastated and completely blaming herself. Also, ps again,
I cannot believe that Karen Grassley and Michael Landon we're
having beef during this time because they're scene together is

(28:45):
so tender and so connected. I mean, they had such
amazing chemistry. It's just insane. Anyway, back to this now
Nellie Laura comes and visits Nelly again. Missus Olsen is
horrific to but this is when the ultimate manipulation is

(29:07):
really taking form, and Nelly is saying, you're such a
good friend, Laurie, You're such a good friend.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah right, Oh, this is just.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Honor. Gil is a thing because, like you know, the
whole talking machine with the stuttering girl, she steals music box, torture, torture,
blackmail is big. This also starts all the peppermint sticks.
I always like having a stick at all time. That
was great. I like peppermint sticks, and I had bond
bonds and stuff in the bed. I also got to
shoot most of this episode in bed as a as

(29:39):
a lazy teenager it's like, awesome, We're gonna shoot the
whole show. Laying on my back with some billas. I
think I can manage this. So I found that. I
thought it was great. So I'm kicking back with mcha.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
And you also have the how how is it like outside?
That's what I missed most.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Manipulation, brutal. I'm listening to that, and it was you
couldn't have seen it in a movie.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
There were no movies. Maybe she read it in one
of her books of like some patient hospital for me
to see the blue sky and to hear the bloods saying,
it's like where did she go?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Oh my god, it's so over the top. And then
she asked Laura, well, and Laura's like, if there's any
I'll do anything for you.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
I'll do anything. I'll do anything.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Anything, right, and so she and then of course it's like, okay,
all the homework, all this, and then I almost like,
how's how's Jason? He probably just want to see me
like this?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
It's so awful, Okay, so right, so she she says,
Jason probably doesn't want to see me like this, and
I'll never walk again, and YadA, YadA.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I'm never gonna walk again. Yes, won't marry a cripple.
We're really pushing the angle. So I've lost any hope
of Jason. Why does she care if I blas she loves,
she wants Jason. She now is feeling bad for me
that I don't have Jason and it's her boyfriend. What
the hell have I done to this girl?

Speaker 3 (31:03):
And so Laura renegotiates her entire right and Laura renegotiates
her entire life to make sure she takes care of Nelly.
So all of her chores, Mary's doing her chores for
She's doing her homework for her. She breaks up her friendship.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Her own homework. She didn't finish her maps. She didn't
finish her.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Maps at the at I just want to say, at
the front of that scene, I think a terrific moment
where as Laura knocks on the door. Now we see
the shot is so wide you if you're looking for it,
you see Catherine in the far side, the far right side,
she's staring out the window blankly. You are sitting there

(31:41):
shoveling chocolate into your face, and as Laura comes in,
you shove it off the bed onto the floor like
you just shove it off the bit because there's more
where that came from.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, as Pamela called me at one point, miss Piggy,
and it's miss Piggy.

Speaker 5 (32:05):
It's the And this is.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
This element of Nelly that not everyone's caught onto and
you did. There's this weirdness piggy to her personality.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
She tries to right the presentation is I'm a lovely
proper lady when really she's the truck driver right like she's.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yes, yes, she's completely absolutely, that's why it's all very
very dainty. Yes, that's it, and that that's the.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Same with missus Olson. It's the same same deal.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, totally love it so much, that's why I laughed.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
So now, so I'll backtrack a second, because Laura has
not yet broken up her relationship with Jason. Do they
go fishing? But Nellie clocks that out of her window
that she's seeing them together. So the next time Laura
comes and.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
The evil.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Now when I peek out the window, there's a lot
I do peeking out the way when I'm going through
a strip. Again, there's no actual building inside the building
in Wallet Grove, so just a crew member is holding
my ankle, says I'm standing on a ledge of things,
so it'll fall to my death and I'm hearing through
the lace curtains, and so that was wonderful to film.
But my mother also thought it was very funny. My

(33:19):
mother said, oh my god, what are you Boo Radley?
And it was Boo Radley in the attic.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
In Lucking Bird by the way.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Robert, but my
mother said, I look like Bradley.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Okay, So the next time Laura comes and visits, then
that's when you start with the Jason manipulation of did
he did he ask for me? And and you know,
I'm going to be honest with you. I love with him.
I love him, and you'll be very hateful over any
other girl that was with it. I mean, the whole
thing is it's a holy, fully evil persona.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
And I had to go there. I didn't. I didn't
think she'd necessarily go see him while I was pulling
this light up. But she did. So it's like, oh,
gotta which she does.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Because then Laura not the best communicator. I would say
she does she is, she is not using her words,
She's just going stumb it. No, I don't want to
see you anymore, and poor Jason is like, whoaa what
what just happened? But she breaks up.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
With him you're talking about in the law that scene
off of the bar.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
He's like, why are girls her? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (34:33):
I love how you react to that doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
Yeah, when he says something like you don't know why
they're mad at you, they just are.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yes, And Paul's like, yes, yes that is that's just.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
What it is.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
Yeah, how about that moment, Pamela, that you would react
to that one that would be a trigger for you?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
You yea? Because he did it well, it was kind
of bitches be crazy.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Well, it was very much like O male humor joke.
I understand. Third gone, I get it. They didn't this time.
In his defense, though, I will say he did not
do anything that that she would react that way. So

(35:15):
I'll give it. I'll give him this one. He took
it for the team for this one.

Speaker 5 (35:20):
Yeah, I know he did nothing wrong.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
He was because I've driven her to madness clitally. We
also then as we get into like where they're gonna do,
the chance of this is about like ruining everyone else's life.
We know, missus Olson, it's gonna fly off the handle
and rant and rave and they her walk they car
walk doctor, which, right, I love that scene?

Speaker 6 (35:40):
She does that actually very Yes, it's a wonderful turn
that Catherine does right there.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Didn't make her.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Walk, that's right. You see her crack.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Nails, who doesn't normally like get over emotional things. Nails
in the storeroom, yes.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Which we never see him do that room.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, ring because his daughter's never going to walk again.
Look what I've done. Doc Baker is now wondering about
why am I a doctor? Your failure? Is a doctor?
Why don't I don't know? She's only got to like concussion,
like con guess there's nothing wrong with it. Then why
isn't she walking? I don't know, because I'm faking he
and so he thinks he's failed as a doctor. Pau
has to drop what he's doing these other seventeen jobs

(36:20):
to make me a freaking wheelchair. Miss Beatles finding out
Laura's not doing her homework, haven't finished her map. So
I've interfered with her job. I've ruined Laura's job. I've
messed with this poor guy. Jason has done nothing wrong,
has no idea what's even happening. Paul now is involved.
Doc Baker's involved nels Harry, Who is there anyone else
whose day I have not trashed here simply by saying

(36:42):
I can't walk.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
So yeah, no, you've you've taken You've destroyed the whole
town with this.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
I ruined everything everybody.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
One of the moments I thought was wonderful is and
we've heard jumping all over the place right now. But
they're at that after that scene where you manipulate Laura
into do it your homework and so on, and she
leaves and I'll see you later today, and the second
the door closes, you are pulling the blanket back and
scratching your feet because you've got an itch. And so

(37:12):
if the audience had any doubt up to that point
as to what was happening, everybody knows you're a liar
at this point as you're watching and now it's just
like you're watching this thinking how far is she going
to take this?

Speaker 1 (37:27):
So now, now, Pamela, as a very young person watching this,
was that when it because like many people kicked it,
Oh she's faking right away, but very young childern other
people might.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Know young children, Oh thank god, yes.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
God, let me run your feet totally. No, it's definite.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Did you when you're little and you're watching it, you
definitely think she's realized you might you might inspect. Okay,
she's milking this a little, you know, because she's being
Nelly's being Nelly because she's a moment where she actually
as soon as Laura leaves and she gets her feet
and she's a rubbing her feet and no, it's a
definite like oh no, it's.

Speaker 6 (38:10):
It's it's just how horrible a human being you.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
And listen, this is this is why, this is why, Okay,
this is why I have beef with the Return of
Nelly episode because what she does in this episode is
so horribly, truly pathologically evil. And then when she returns
back years later to her good old buddy Laura and

(38:38):
they end up just hugging and laughing and haha, remember
when I used to torture you And I'm like this ship
like this is not something you recover from, Like you
do not recover from this. This is a permanent.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
No, and this is a music Oh my god, no.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Even you can you can understand someone like we were
kids and it was stupid. This is on a level
of like, never you're destroying someone's this is not something
you laugh and chuckle about.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Ten years later, my family's were in pressed, Like my
friends didn't really watch a show, but I remember my
family was very impressed.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
With the genus.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
It's okay, the entire every little second that you're watching this,
I'm going, I'm like having a good time through the
entire thing.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
I go, now, I must have been you must have
been so psycho and that script.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
And said I was eating the bond bonds and then
it was like she like just shoves, and I went with.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
So good, so good.

Speaker 5 (39:51):
Now I want just a little piece of trivia here.

Speaker 6 (39:53):
So after that scene, Laura runs to the mill and
she goes into the mill and says, Carl, where's my dad?

Speaker 5 (40:00):
Do you know where my dad is?

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Well, Carl, Carl was Carl Pity, Carl Pity was had
been in the business for years and years and years had.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Been and Zorro had been.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
Carl was one of the premiere, even at that stage
in his life.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Do you remember Days of Heaven? That just the abysmal.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Horrible slow, very slow, very slow.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
Very slow. But there's a shot in Days of.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
Heaven And I believe this was Carl where Chris Christofferson
is cracking a whip and they it goes. They shot
this like three hundred times and it's Carl Pity doing
the whip crack and they shot him.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
Oh I think.

Speaker 6 (40:46):
And so Carl was an institution in that sort of
special Western trickery, trick roping, trick whip work, all of
that stuff.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
Carl was a uh was part of Little House atmosphere forever.

Speaker 6 (41:03):
His daughter worked his atmosphere on the program kids in school. Yeah,
I mean, it's just and and Carl was just as
good and decent and kind a man. And no one
realized that there. This was really an instant. This was
like one of the great professionals in the industry doing this.

(41:25):
The particular things that he did, no one did them better.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
The randomly all the time.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
Yeah, and he was there every day, driving wagons in
the church whatever.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
He was.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
All right, we should take a break.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
So anyway, I'm just just throwing that out there. And
so so Laura goes to the mill and Pa she said,
can I help her?

Speaker 5 (41:50):
And so on?

Speaker 6 (41:51):
And you know, pod, all that Paul wants to know
is she didn't blame you. She didn't blame you for
all this, right, No, No, she was very nice about okay,
so exactly so that evil thing is being repressed in
favor of manipulation.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
She's taken it all on herself. My plan has worked.
I knew that she was prone to these episodes of
terrible guilt and taking everything personally, and I went for it,
and she took it all on herself. She didn't even
wrap me out.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Let's take a break and then we will continue with Bunny.

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Speaker 3 (43:14):
Okay, we're back after a long discussion about My God.
There's a lot going on in this episode. It's hard
to get so we will start now with Act three,
which is Laura's late for supper again. She's been staying
late with Nelly, actually doing her homework for her. But no,

(43:34):
she's not telling anyone that.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Make the letters like I bake them so she won't
know you're writing.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
So Also, Laura is also taking care of Bunny because
she has taken Bunny because missus Olsen has threatened to
shoot Bunny and Laura Justice for Bunny, you guys, my God,
Justice for Bunny. So Laura actually has Bunny and is
taking care of Bunny to save Bunny. But you know,

(44:05):
the angles are like, dude, you can't keep doing this
like you're coming here.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
You can't keep doing It's insane.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
You are failing school. You you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
But doesn't say show me, show.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Me your show me your map for geography, and yes
I will, but then it's not done yet.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
Please don't tell Paul stamp all night.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
And can I mean remember being a little kid and
just the psychology of children and knowing that she is
carrying this burden on her burden twenty four seven at
the sake of her own self. And it's so much
for a little child. I mean, Nellie's evil. There's no

(44:46):
no two ways about it.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
She's so evil.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
Look at her smiling gleefully.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yes, I've done that, especially when a kid says like
don't tell, don't tell you know mom or dad, Like
please don't tell mom or dad. I mean that's that
is an act of desperation for a child to do that.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
Yeah, okay, ye now so so so we're we're back
to the Olsens now and this is a this is
an important moment where Willie's.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
Up around and we want to incredible. It's great, so
talk so talk about this scene.

Speaker 6 (45:18):
This is a wonderful scene and uh, well it's great.
This is like classic you. You first threatened him and
then you then you blackmail him, basically you.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I'm talking to my doll again, Yes, I'm talking to
the do all the way.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Creepy, creepy, creepy doll, horribly creepy doll, creepy creepy. And
I'm clear that comes alive at night and terrorizes the town.
It is one of those dolls and.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Was the weird crap I'm saying to the doll, was
that in the scripture that I have lived that I
don't know where and when? Then we're going to go
to France and we're gonna talking to this doll. It
was weird. It was a weird, weird, weird scene. And
then the brilliant Willy arrives.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
And discovers that she indeed.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
And discovers you. How did you get out of bed?
He asked me, how did you do that?

Speaker 1 (46:10):
I bolt as soon as he comes in the speed
with which I jump over the bed and run to
the door and managed to shut.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
The door, slam the door.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
So blow out the candle, and get him in a
choke hold and gag him at the same time, all
at once in one move with a broken arm. Thank you.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
I was never aware of the broken arm, never aware.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
They and I like, I don't know how the hell
we didn't. We didn't spend a lot of time blocking this.
I just like knew, we went, okay, you need to
I have to do all okay. It's just suddenly I've
got him and it's like, how the hell did I
just do all that? I don't even know how the
hell I did all that, but I've got him gagged
and then did not tell. And I love how he's
always and then be taken.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Yeah, and the fact is Willly is down. Willly is
down as long as he gets something out of it,
which is fine. She shares some of her goods with him.
He's down for the frog.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Want can well.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
And so you try two strategies, both of which were worked.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
First people, they won't believe you, they'll believe me.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
Then you go, you go a step farther to cement
the deal, and you're going to give him candy and
chocolate and then.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Find anything you want. Whatever I get, you get, we get. So, yes,
we commune on this. This is a very disturbing scene.
Family maybe picked up on this. It's pretty disturbing. I mean, yes,
it's black MAT's threats, then blackmail on the speaker today,
Gag that poor child. But again, pretty creepy, creepy, creepy.
I've got him in a really frightening hold. I've got

(47:51):
my hamber's mouth and I tell him. They won't believe you.
So conjures horrifying pictures of child abuse and people telling
the victim, I don't if you tell Mom and dad, they.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
Won't believe because you lie more than I do. Was
your you lie.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
More than that? It's so awful, it's I mean, it
could I could have just gragged him and said, look,
don't tell anybody and I'll give you candy. But no,
they wrote in all this really stuff about don't tell
mom and dad. I'll tell them you're lying and they'll
believe me.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
Not.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Oh oh, that's awful, that's really bad. And yet I
said it and I did.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
That's like therapy stuff for real, for real, and.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
That's that's like life changing kinds of.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yead very bad and you know not to go there.
But it's not like I did know. I mean, you
read the book, so I'm like, this is bad. Wow, yeah,
this is probably really bad. But and then we are going.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
To clearly did not have the best moral compass, because
he is very moral, is ready to get the stuff,
and damned everyone else.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
You will plan clearly has like stages. Now, I got
to get rid of Jason, and I got to take
care of this, Oh, got to take care of the
willy problem of sold.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
So then yeah, Laura comes back again for another visit,
probably to do her homework.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
Yes, yes, And when she while she's coming back saying,
I can't do this anymore, right, I can't.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
I can't keep doing this.

Speaker 6 (49:20):
And when she did, you sort of feign like fatigue, and.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
I'm getting faint. I know that was insane. What what
on top of all of this?

Speaker 6 (49:30):
Now I'm like, oh, you're listening sympathy, you know, it's
just like, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
But again, Doctor Baker is also there, and he's trying
to do the good old needle prick again, and this
time she is absolutely every excuse in the book not
to have him do this to her, and she wins.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
I've got a good thing going, and maybe I can't
pull that thing right twice.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
Right if I feel at this time my crack.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Then this whole show is over and it's going.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
And missus Olson is down for it all also like, oh, doctor,
don't do it to her. She doesn't.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
That's classic the way don't.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
But also it's so it's so interesting how Doc Baker
is also like okay, and he just doesn't do it.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Okay, yeah, right, no, exactly. I'll be.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
I know that she will back me up and he will.
That's Nelly knows too much about all these people. She's good. Well,
this will be easy. I mean, it's that's.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Right, so right. So then Laura comes in. She's like,
I'm failing. You got an a but I am failing.
I can't really do this, And then you pull the
I'm dizzy I can and then Laura freaks out again. Okay.
Then Nels comes to Paul and says, can you fix
up this old wheelchair, which again.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Horrified and ruining his day.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Yeah. And also the fact that they're making a wheelchair
means officially, oh, she ain't gonna walk no more. This
is this is a done deal, like this is not
going to get better, which is horrifying.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
But in the barn when Laura comes in and he
shoots through the hole in the back of the chair,
huh and Laura's face but she's gonna walk, but she's
gonna get better. She doesn't need a wheelcha while you're
yanking wheelchair. She doesn't need wheel It's gonna get better,
will Laura?

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Horrible? Okay? And then she's like, no, she's gonna walk.
She's gonna walk. She's gonna walk, and she runs back
into the house she has because she always runs when
there's a problem. Run it off, girl. The cardio that
Laura Ingalls got a little house in the prairie was fantastic. Okay, so.

Speaker 6 (51:37):
Where are we now, So so that the wheelchair is
faced right and then loading it up.

Speaker 5 (51:44):
By the way that.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
The cue that David Rose wrote during the scene where
Laura gets so upset, it was a you know, it's
it's not the norm that David did not normally write
sort of piano lead kind of. It was a really beautiful,
sort of troubled queue that he wrote.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
There.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
There was some contrast with the psycho music of the
horror movie that we are watching with Nelly the dam
d Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Yeah, so it had a percussive quality to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, the Evil.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Dark Vader Nelly Evil.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Okay, so now Nellie's fitted in her chair. She loves
her chair, wheelie chair.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Except when idiot Doc Baker says, you could use the
other arm and I want to go remember the skateboarding accident. No,
I actually cannot get.

Speaker 6 (52:40):
But there's a scene before that paw so Paus fixed
the wheelchair and he wants her to go on a picnic.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
She can't go on because she's working so hard. She's
doing homework.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
Yeah, and now we're back at the Olsens and Doc
Baker puts her in the chair and she can't do it,
but she.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
Could do one.

Speaker 6 (52:58):
She could do one armed on the she goes around
in circles. Basically, Yes, it was great.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Doing it, really, I got so yeah, so and then
go on, I have to take here of the store.
Was then when does missus Wilson.

Speaker 6 (53:12):
Literally, well, that's that's when you tell her that she
should go and tell thank mister Ingall's.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Chair for the beautiful, beautiful chair chair.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
You must go thank him. Yes, and my fall she said, look, yes,
I can take care of the store.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
You're in in your nightgown and then my.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Night in my nightoun and slippers and chairs.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
Get from the chair, they'll get things off the chair.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
You're in your nighty and you just got put in
a wheel trow. How you're not gonna take care. You're
not gonna do anything, and we all know it. You're
gonna lock the door. You're not gonna take care of
the damn store.

Speaker 5 (53:47):
And you get up and dance a jig when you're
when your mother.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Goes out the door, and she she says, yes, of
course I will go. Yes, you can man the store.
And so Missus olds and leaves, and the second she's
out of the door, Nelly is up and dancing and jumping,
dancing like that.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I mean, I read the direction was more and more
so I went with the jig and really got the
jig is good.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
Well, yeah, no, it's it's great because you're so like
you're your muscles are properly here. I feel like they're
I'm so I'm festering here because I can't move so something.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I mean, life is hard. Life is very hard for you.
So Missus Olsen goes to the ingles like she's saying
she's gonna do m sees Bunny the whore.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Bunny is not wearing the check dress like the lady
in the Wizard of Oz. The barn thing coming, and
she's got a she kept the freaking Toto baskets like

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it's wearing the dress. She's got the bloody Toto bat.
They're doing the Wizard of Oz blatantly in your faith,
but Missus salts comfort Toto. In this scene, I saw like.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
And you're absolutely right, And Laura clocks us and she's like,
you are not taking this horse, and she jumps on
the horse and she runs away, runs, away.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
I love that.

Speaker 6 (55:14):
I love that begetting This is sort of the movie
magic of that of that she's on the ground.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
What is she like? What four foot two.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
Or something at that point and she's suddenly springing into
the saddle and galloping outside.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
It's like, how was she.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
About that?

Speaker 5 (55:32):
She's just in the saddle and.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
How she goespy little girl and she's galloping away.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
And that's the end of act four.

Speaker 6 (55:40):
She act three, And this is where coming.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
Everything turns.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
I come this.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Or anybody else's life apparently.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Okay. So Laura rides the horse into town and to
the oldson's house. She sees through why we don't know
why she goes there. It is bizarre.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Does she does? She come for Nelly? Let's go with that.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
I'm such a good friend the Horris right. She sees
through the window Nelly doing the Woltz with a creepy,
creepy doll that comes alive at night and terrorizes where's creepy?
I haven't all is insane? The doll is so terrifying. Okay,

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So Laura now knows that.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
This little everybody knows every has.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Failing from the very beginning. Also, quick thinking on Laura's party.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
The rage she would feel because she's adding up everything Jason,
the homework, the thing, the yours, all of it.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
All she's gone through for weeks on hey.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
When she saw the wheels, all the terrible things she's
put shelf through and the bit just dancing in her.

Speaker 6 (57:04):
So so she does, which is so great because she's
absolutely clear that something is due. So there's no hesitation,
there's no ambiguity about it for her, and it's the
back time and.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
The audience must be fair. Okay, So Pamela, as a
young girl, were you at this point? It is the
audience going, oh my god, kill her, do something. Oh
my god, oh my god, it's so bad. It's so bad,
do something terrible. Yes, who is just on this? Yes?

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Okay, yes, because it's so intense. It's just so intense. Okay. So,
so Laura then knocks on the door. Knock, and you knock,
and Nelly jumps back into her chair. This is always
a pet peeve of mine. Ready, you jump back into
the chair and your nightgown gets caught on your foot,
so it's taught. And Nellie walks in and the nightgown

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is taught on your because it's it's.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Stuck on your foot.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
And said, and like it bothers It's just stupid thing.
It is unimportant in the grand scheme of things. But
on the micro things, I'm like, get the nightdown off.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Of that should be.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Does it bother you too? Because it bothers me.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Crazy, because we should have cut and just jump in
the chair again because we screwed up.

Speaker 5 (58:15):
Agreed. I just you know, I think the moment was
the moment was terrific.

Speaker 6 (58:23):
I mean we I think are you know as an audience,
you're just racing with this. You know something's going to
happen now.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
You you just you just want to keep going.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
You're like, like I said, in the grand scheme of things,
it does not matter.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
But yeah, I think that's what.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Happened with Michael who went to hell with a nightcouch about.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
It's just a little tiny detail that is always it
looks lightly irritating me, and it makes me feel good
that it irritated you to Allison, so that I'm not
the only weirdo out here looking at these little details.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
I'm thinking, Michael just went and look, it's like real life.
It's like that would happen in real life. Fine, let's
just boof.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
But the reason why it bugs me is that because
if she was paralyzed and couldn't move, her nightgown couldn't
possibly be So that's a give immediately of course. Anyway,
it doesn't matter. We're fine, we're good, we'll go with it.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
But you know, on the other hand, Pamlight, we know Laura.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Knows what which is why it doesn't matter. It's just
sloppy on for Nelly. It's a sloppy mistake. It's a
sloppy mistake. Okay. So Laura, being the ever rascally rascal
she is, devises her rightfully. So Ventral, I mean girl
decides that Allie, let's go outside for a walk.

Speaker 5 (59:38):
Let's go for a walk.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Yeah, but I have to stay here and take care
of And then Cott Moody question, how the hell does
she get me down the stairs?

Speaker 5 (59:50):
Well, that's that's a yes.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
This is before a DA ramps were everywhere, and.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Again we don't think it's so funny the nightgown. The
nightgown details, mot detail bothers me, But that never bothered me.
That was like a thing that I never picked up on.
It just was a totally went right by me. But
you are right there were stairs. How did you know?

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
How would you've gotten out?

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Yeah, it's a flying, flying wheelchair. Paul was very talented.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
Exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
Okay, So I love so there there's out walking and
Laura throws in it must.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
Feel so good to get out.

Speaker 6 (01:00:26):
I love that She's really like, this is some wonderful
moments between the two of you where the audience is
just like rooting for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Yeah, and I but why are you acting? Are you
I know something that my plan may be going awry?

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
So she gets to the top of the big hill
and goes, oo, if I need a rest, I need
a rest. Then we see missus Olson from the perspective.
Go on, you described this, Alison, You'll do it better
than will because you don't have that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Hell, now we have the picture. I'm in the chair
antichair with the ringlets and the thing, and she's with
her dark haired little braids and dress. Now many people
have made the joke, oh whatever happened to baby Jane? Right,
Betty Davis's share and Joe Crawford is pushing it. Ha
ha ha. Now Melissa and I bed both at various
times late and there was no cable. But at three

(01:01:30):
am they saw late night movies. It's something we've seen it.
We knew the movie. But the whole freaking crew knew
the movie and some of them had like worked on it.
Larry Jermaine it was Betty Davis's hairdresser. That was his
first job in Hollywood was shampo Betty Davis. So the
crew were all of the age to know whatever happened
to baby Jane very very very well and either worked

(01:01:50):
on it or had a friend who worked on it,
or they all worked extensively with Joan Crawford and Betty
David many many many jobs, Marily Monroe and all these
other people. So no secret. So yes, for people going,
did you get the joke, Yes, we got the joke.
I knew the joke when I was in the chair
and the whole crew as she's getting me up, Oh
my god, I that's whatever having a baby Jade. I'll

(01:02:11):
look at Glants now it's pushed in the chair and
ah haha, Jane's in the chair like if Betty Davis
is in the chair. But Larry Jermaine mornings when he
did my wig would hand me an unlit cigarette and
have me go, what how dump in on? Yes, it
looks like Betty Davis because the guy Larry who designed

(01:02:33):
the wig was he was Betty Davis's hairdresser for years.
His first job in Hollywood. You have to rint give
Betty Davis a shampoo and he got all the shampoo
conditioner and she said, I'll just rent it out in
the sink with some drift and she was awesome and
so yes, so did the wig look like Betty Davis?

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
It did? Was that on purpose? Yes? Apparently? Did we
know it looked like but ever having a baby Jane? Hell? Yes,
so that. So we're at the top of the hell
and it was lovely after and I was looking down
at that point, going on, am I taking this hill?
That's gonna be kind of rough, okay, And we're getting
ready to do this and yes, and I'm like, you
seem to be a nerve and will with your homework
and mine, and She's going on, I realize something has

(01:03:10):
gone wrong that is caught on. I am in some
kind of trouble. And then she said, it's your mother
here and I'm like what she holds up? I'm sure
she wants to see you, missus, miss also up here
because Laura has now struck the mother load. She's going
to get a revenge on Nelly. And Missus also that

(01:03:32):
the same die because she's gonna be there when she
did this me down ye and the audience, how how
happy were you as an audience member that missus Olsen
was Now, of course it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
But the best line missus Olsen says, what does she say?
What are you doing with that filthy animal?

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
What have you done with it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
And Laura said, Nelly, your mother is looking for you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
She doesn't just shoudn't say where's the horses? Michael Michael
Land and humor, where's the horse? Where's buddy? Where's the animal?
She says?

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
What do you do with the animal?

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
America? How amazing?

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
I mean this whole thing when I when I say
when I say like, this episode is iconic, Like literally
this episode is in like the zeitgeist of all of
American television, like it is it is a Smithsonian worthy episode,
do you know what I mean? Like I don't know

(01:04:46):
why the nellywig is not in the Smithsonian, but this
is like, this is iconic. This is the episode that
even if you don't know Little Has on the Prairie,
you know this episode. This is the one. This is it?

Speaker 6 (01:04:59):
I think now, Alison, I'm you have a probably have
a take on this, but I'm gonna say this. This
was an episode for Michael writing this episode where all
the things that drove his.

Speaker 5 (01:05:11):
Humor and his and his humor was so this way.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
So he wrote all of this in and it was
this was such a smart script.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Yes, that's what I loved it. We're getting this is
funny stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:05:27):
It's funny, it's smart, it's manipulative, it's all that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:31):
I bet he had a.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
I bet he did too, especially because he knew he
had the actors that could do it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:39):
To make this No, I mean, my god, you killed this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Yes, and I was in absolute misspeaking dog heaven and okay,
so she pushes the chair. Now the question are you
was the sun woman? Oh my god? What is happening?
So first the chair, the chair with me a big
steel cable and I remember double checking that going is
the yeah, and I look, are you sure about this?

(01:06:03):
And they push it and I start to go down,
which was kind of terrifying for me. Steel cable held.
I was like, okay, I'm glad that still getting so stopped.
I get out of the chair. Then extremely talented, brilliant
stunt woman who bravest person on earth gets got up
as me gets in that chair and goes bangety bangity
bangity bangity bangity bang, hits bottom and flies into the

(01:06:26):
air somersalt midair, hits the water. Just did they have
Amy's for stunts? Why did we not have an Emmy
f woman should have a we have.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
The Act Awards.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
So when we see the chair going down the actual hill,
that is the stunt woman actually going down that hill.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
She goes down the hill. There's a shot from the
back that looks like a dummy.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
From the back, it's a dummy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
It's really really rocky.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
But the one where she flips into the water, that
is her.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
But that's that's aunt woman sailing through the freaking air.
I don't know how that hell she did. I was like,
oh my god, lady, so she does that. Then the
trick is I now have to come up spitting. But
they also need some footage and close up of me
in the chair going down the hill, and we can't
do that because we have her and will kill me
if we don't. So they take me over to the

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little house and the big slope like next to the
little house, which is a hill is longer but much
less seep, and they get me up and put me
in the chair.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Now, is this the run down the hill?

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
This is the close up her screen?

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
No, no, I understand. But the location where you did
that was that the girls the running down the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Hill that's a cross. So this is the This is
literally next to the little house because it's smooth, no rocks,
no trees, no muster growing. You can actually get a
chair down with it. Someone got it and cameras on
a track and it's a technological wonder. They're doing the
whole thing and they put me in. Now. Remember although
it is safe ha ha, because it's not bad hill.

(01:07:58):
There's no seatbelt, there's no restraints of any kind. I
am in a nightgown, underwear, ed rivers and a broken
arm hanging on in an eighteen hundreds antique wheelchair. And
they just kind of go go and I know, down
this slope with the guys on the camera track going go, go, go,
go filming this and they're like laughing so hard they're

(01:08:21):
falling over trying to shoot this. And then they decided
to do it again. He did it a couple of times.
So I'm like having a heart I'm going because I'm
I can hear anything, like teeth are rattling every time.
It like it's I'm going and there's no seatbelts. I'm like,
I'm sliding out of the chair in the nineties. So
I'm like, oh crap, I'm gonna die. So I'm screaming,
and at one point to decide I'm not scared enough,

(01:08:43):
so the guys yelled the rope broke because they had
a decided to spear it, and they decided to tell
me the rope broke. Now I didn't really need that
because I my butt was sliding out of the chair
and I was going to fall and be crushed with
the camera truck and the thing and die anyway that way.
So I was already frightened, thank you, and so I

(01:09:03):
scream and you can see my passes because I'm like,
I remember we had.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Had a us still during our live podcast event of
that moment where you could very.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Because yeah, it was crazy. So I survived that and
then go back in the pond and it's all over
multiple days. I don't know what order they shot anything
in anymore. I like, who knows it took the days.
But we get in the pond. Now it's I've fallen
into the pond. So I'm in the pond, but I
gotta come up spitting. So we're in the pond. Now.
Remember I have a real cas right, and it's a plasterer.

(01:09:34):
You had to a trash bag on when you took it,
so we said, they say, oh, wait, what do we do?
So Doctor Baker, cast comes off my real cast trash
bag white trash bag is wrapped very thoroughly around and
then tape and rubber bands and crap, so it is
sealed up in a trash bag like when one takes
a shower with the cast. You have to put the
trash bag on it. Then the Doc Baker boards and

(01:09:58):
acedvantages go on over that, and my sleeve comes down here.
She doesn't see the trash bag up here, and you
just see the Doc Baker, But there is a big
plastic white trash bag keeping the plaster dry under that.
And then I'm standing there and I'm already wet, and
I'm standing in the pond. You remember the palm by
the mill that was not algae and things it's not

(01:10:19):
and this is what Michael Landon turns to me and says,
do you have a swimming pool at your apartment? And
I said no, no, we do not. And he said, well,
after this, you can swim in your toilet, which was
pretty accurate.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
And you had to get your hair and then dunk
your hat in it too, because your whole head.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Not very deep.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
It's not very deep obviously, so it'd be like maybe almost,
but the sun woman, so you have to be wet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Yes, So I sat down in the muck and the
mire in my nighty and underwear and the mire and
the sand, and then I sput and then I went,
like I've done so many times in that show, getting wet,
did dunk my whole face in and head completely into
this disgusting, very smelly, unpleasant water, and got some in
my mouth because that happens, and came up going scream

(01:11:15):
and the water and the goo and the old into
coming down, and it's lovely. It's so lovely. It's such
a lovely moment. And then Katherine McGregor again, greatest moment
in anyone's career. Kath McGregor says, it's and falls off.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
Yeah, she falls, she falls out of the wagon. Yeah,
out of the carriage.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Yeah, and it's it's fantastic, It's fantastic. It's just and
people wait for that too. People will watch that clip
over and over and over again. It's a miracle and
they just they cheery and screamed. They will watch epic.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
But wait, that's not the end.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Another favorite team, another favorite team. Because we go back,
we go back. Then, It's time has passed everyone somehow,
they've all recovered. I don't know. Everybody goes aha, our
lives were ruined in like three weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
But now yep, so right, so now we're back and
and Laura, Laura's talking to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Bankers and none of these people are suing us for like.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
No, no, Laura, I mean big ups for Laura because
she says to Nell's you know, Nells admits like, yeah,
Nellie has done yeah, and Nells is like she has
done some mean things, but this one, holy moly. And
Laura was the one that was like acknowled it that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
This is over then, and Laura is the one.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
That pacified and said, I'm just glad that she's okay.
And that's when Nells is like the horse is yours,
girly girl, like you deserve this horse. Take the horse back,
Like this is so karma. Karma has come round for everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Everything worked, and she gets your boyfriend. Laura goes into
tra Jason and goes fishing. Yes, boyfriend back, she got
a horseback. Nels is like, forget it that. The girl's insane.
I don't know what happened, and we're just gonna pretend
none of this took plice weird not.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
But the episode ends with.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
Nelly the breakdown this colossal.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Yeah, because Nellie clocks Laura and Jason talking once again
outside of one more time, and you have the breakdown
of all breakdowns. The creepy, creepy doll is smashed on
the wall. She starts smashing, throwing things, thrashing things. She
starts hitting dollhouse with the mallet, which also is a

(01:13:45):
classic Willie scene where he comes in and.

Speaker 5 (01:13:47):
Says the fast line, Yeah, don't wreck that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
What I like? God?

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
God, So Michael, that's Michael humor, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
And Jonathan rewrote the dialog and and got away with
it again. So I go into this room and our
beautiful prop men take me aside and say, no, here's
what you're gonna do. Because you're gonna go nuts, and
you're gonna wreck the room and you're gonna be throwing everything,
and they're gonna go and you start here and then
you wind up over there, and they have a very
very light bals of wood dollhouse and a big hair brush,

(01:14:28):
so they can you got it. I said, Now, as
you go through the room and wreck things, and they
would pick up various objects, saying, now, this is totally plaster.
It's a reproduction. You can throw this and break it
away for more in the back. And then they picked
and said, this is an actual antique from the prop department.
Don't even touch it here. These are books. They're fine,
they won't break. You can throw them across the room
and they'll be fine. And yeah, terror you pull it. No,

(01:14:51):
don't tear down this strape. Okay, here, And they went
through every single thing in the room and said, you
can break this, don't break this, don't touch this. You
can totally break this. You can break this, you can
break identities. We got and showed me what I could break,
what I could throw one opera, so I had to
remember in the middle of chaos and insane breakdown, Oh yeah,
that's the anti right, which things I could break in
which things I couldn't. And I think we did it twice,

(01:15:14):
so it was seriously at least part of it. Part
that's where they had a couple.

Speaker 6 (01:15:18):
It was more than once we did, so they had
to reset the room so you could start again.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
That's why you said, don't touch this, don't touch that.
We have another.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
When I watched it yesterday, I was like, oh my god,
that's so funny. Is that you throw the doll against
the wall, but it doesn't break. Her head doesn't smash,
So then you pick up the doll again and thrower again,
and that's when the head smash was over. You're like, oh, no,
doll is gonna die whether you like it or not.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Yeah, I'm gonna break that, so yeah, see me kind
of god, nothing go through a smash mash, smash mashpash.
And I'm like, god, you know you're on that set
and you're a kid, and you're told don't break the props,
don't touch the antie, please don't touch this, Please don't
break this, and they just told me to go break
everything in the room. You're not happy. I was, so
I'm smashing, smashing, smashing, and then the dollhouse is like,

(01:16:09):
do now I should tell you weird things. I'm going,
I'll get you, Laura, I'll fix you. I have seen
this law Angles, I have seen this sequence in France
eight million times, so I'll fix you didn't completely translate it.
That quite doesn't have the same meaning. So it's not
a so toure, but it's toure, which is kill. So

(01:16:33):
I'm actually saying i will kill you. I will kill you,
Laura Angles. I'm going, no wonder. They think I'm even
worse in France and are like total because I'm apparently
with title maniac in France. So I'm going, I'll kill you,
I'll kill you, because that translates more in the intent.
And so then the beautiful Jonathan Gilbert comes in and
he's totally freaked out. And I remember Jonathan didn't read
the script, so I was surprised by whatever was happening next.

(01:16:55):
So he knew his lines and knew do generally what
was happening, but I had no idea what hell I
was going to do. So I'm trying, and I get
out with the hairbrusher and he has this thing, you know,
and I can sell it. You can hylical and then
I'm like, get out, and he does that look in
his eyes are like saucers and I'm just gonna and
he just woop, spins and runs and it's like great
and then cut and Michael's like got print, geta and

(01:17:18):
Mary Mary. He says, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We
missed the line. And he says, I'm sorry. She said
we missed a line, because we need miss line. She
said he had another line. He didn't say it. What
do you need? He didn't say she had a script
see after and then I can sell it. And then
he says but and Michael goes like it didn't really
it was really needed. Clearly, everything that happens happened. And
then Michael said, I'm sorry, but if she was coming

(01:17:41):
at me with that hair brush the way she just did,
I wouldn't hang out and say more things. I would run.
I think his instincts are correct, and he left at
the right time, and I wouldn't still be there if
I saw her coming at me with that hair brush,
I would be gone. He's right, strike it and Jonathan

(01:18:01):
Albert and so that's how it ends.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
She has the little uh what is it porcelain thing
of a black horse. She's looking at the window and
looking at it, going I'll fix you, Laura Ingalls, I'll
fix you. And then it's like the point of Laura.
I think yes, and then that's it, except the end
title card says.

Speaker 5 (01:18:23):
Next continue next week of the race.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
I did not throw the horsey. I wanted to throw
the horsey. But Michael Landon javelin discus champion thrower right great,
arm great and the softball. So he also it was Friday,
end of the day and he needed to throw something
at somebody, you know, you having a rough week, and
like give me that horse. And so he said, I
got it, and I was like, awesome. We all watched
it all as he wound up and took direct name

(01:18:47):
at this little teeny tapes a mini needle point. It
was only about yay big and all the way he's all,
I mean, all the way across the south and he's like,
took him and and that horse went doing dead center
of the needle point thing and smashed perfectly because Michael
threw it and he knew how to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
The End of Money, the Dean's favorite episode all time.

Speaker 5 (01:19:15):
Yeah No, it's really it is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
It isn't that crazy because you keep caring about this
cockamamy thing and you thought you'd seen it because you
kept seeing clips of it and pictures of it, and
everybody's talking about everybody's showing clips.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
We've talked about it endless. Yeah, yeahs.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
And we've been on panels and it fan things where
they go. So when you went down the hill in
the wheelchair, you yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
Those those key moments are always talked about, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
And so you were and and people say, and there
are people say, oh, little house I go where I
go downhill in the wheelchair, Oh that shows Oh my god,
it's the thing. So you've been in it to the
point you were like, come on, stop talking about that,
what's going on?

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
Well, okay, I won't do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
But now you've seen it, you see what the fuss
is about.

Speaker 5 (01:19:57):
Totally totally, I totally get it. And it's all deserved
and it's just like, okay, okay, maybe it is the
favorite one of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
I mean, it's one of several favorite ones.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
But yes, it's up there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
It's up there, Dean, It's a yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
I mean, there are different there are favorites for different reasons.
And this is definitely for you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
This is up knelling number one in a goal.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
Top of the line, and we've we've just done a
really great episode for you. But this is really this
was so defining for you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:34):
This was just Awes signing for the rest of your life.
I mean, isn't it weird to know that this is
like the thing that has defined your entire rest of
your life after this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
When I wrote the memoir, there's an entire chapter called
the wheelchair scene. There's because everyone's like, I tell that
that I have to like bright here, because everyone asked,
everyone asked, And I did enjoy doing every single minute,
from the hit plexiglass shield in front of my face
to face down in the bond to breaking the things

(01:21:07):
in the room the bond bonds. But yes, I cannot
recall a single day of filming of this that I
was not having the most fun Ruman should be.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
Allowed to have, totally totally, Well, we're gonna do the
We're gonna do the race.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
So we're gonna do the race. We have to we
have to do next and we'll talk more about Allison's
experience with this on Patreon I am sure. I am
positive that's what we're about to do. So if you
want more, not riding a horsehip, you want more, join
it on Patreon. But yeah, that's it. That's it for today. Guys.

(01:21:43):
We did it. I finally did it. Dean, you've done it.
You've done it, buddy boy.

Speaker 5 (01:21:48):
Awesome, it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
Great guys, thank you for being with us. Join us
on our website, Little House fifty podcast dot com our socials,
Little House fifty Podcast. Oh I forgot, I'm forgetting to
say this, but I'm gonna say it again. Like subscribe, baby,
Like subscribe and give us a five star rating. How
about it on Apple you can give us wonderful reviews.
We'd really appreciate it. And my god, I have to

(01:22:13):
like decompress now after Nelly Evil for so so much,
so much Nelly Evil. But it's so good. All right, guys,
that's it. Bob, get the wig, we'll see you. Let's
go down the wheelchair downst

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