He Loves Me, He Loves Me Not” recap! Part 2, Hour 1

Folks, we talked so much about this action-packed episode that we had to break it up into 2 parts! So today, we’re back in Walnut Grove for Part 2 of the Season 6 finale, but only the first hour of the recap, because let’s face it—we spent a full day analyzing Laura, Almanzo, Nellie, and Percival's love sagas. Next week will will finish the episode, officially!


But today, Laura is busy helping Mary and Adam open the new blind school, all while trying to ignore her feelings for Almanzo. Meanwhile, Almanzo secretly works extra jobs to cover the school rent. And of course, a “saloon girl sighting” (Pamela's favorite character) almost sends Laura spiraling, and sparks a conversation with our hosts about sex and sexuality in the Prairie days.

Meanwhile, Nellie and Percival’s story is cooking up (pun intended!). Percival’s strict training regimen is actually starting to work on Nellie, softening her attitude in a very "Taming of the Shrew" way. But it makes us ask...Is Nellie a submissive? Do short men have more masculine energy? It's giving Kermit and Piggy vibes, people!We laugh, swoon, and debate every glance, tearful scene (without actual tears? Where's the glycerin when you need it!), and prairie misstep—from Almanzo overworking himself into illness to Nellie’s gradual change—making this hour full of classic Walnut Grove tomfoolery and romantic confusion.

Next week, we’ll finish Part 2 of Part 2, talk ice baths, dodge balls to the face, and nice Jewish husbands. You won't want to miss it!Then join us on Patreon, where we chat about Valentine’s Day and Pamela shares the epic story of the annual LIW Dinner Party she attended!

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:43):
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(01:24):
and star of Living on a Prairie and superband and
your hosts, and I am here with the ever loving
Prairie Bitch mis Allison Arngrom Do to Do and also
our hashtag imaginary Boyfriend, both featured prominently in this episode.
Woo hoo, he's here with those Dean Butler, Hello you guys,

(01:46):
Hey Pamela.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
So the weather has chased us from the has has
has come from the east.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
It's like it is.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Wet, really and it's not not cool, but it's wet this.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Morning, and it's gonna be coold. Are you you're warming
up in New York? Are you warming well?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
It hit thirty one degrees and it's like people were
frolicking through the streets. It felt warm and balmy at
thirty one today. It's about that yesterday I got up
to forty, but then I woke up this morning to
more snow. So no, we're still in it. It's not
zero degrees anymore, it's not five degrees anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
But you know it's gonna be freezing here in California
because there's gonna be snow in the mountains. So they're
talking no thirties and I'm looking at to Hunk and
I'm going, okay, blah blah fifties and blah blah forty something,
the usual kind stuff. And then rain ran the we'
r in a very light drizzle, but they're saying insane
heavy rains or selling sand. They got sand bags down
at the fire department. It's gonna be nuts. But then
it's gonna get really cold and tomorrow night think it's

(02:40):
gonna be Okay, tonight it's gonna be like thirty eight
up here in ticket It never does.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
That, and then it I'm like, yeah, I'm like, uh,
I am not amused.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Which actual winter thirty which is not now it's going
to snow in the mountains.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
We're not high elevation here, Worshunion eighteen hundred?

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Is that right? You're that you're that high.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
It's not two thousand, but it's sure shell not sea level.
We're pretty high up we're mountains, like right there, we're
like right next to the men, and they're saying snow
levels dropping to the two thousands and once in a
blue moon, if it's windy and it does that, we
have snow. We can give snow. So we might have
snow in the driveway on Thursday. It's like insane.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, well, welcome to my.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's fast. Catherine was watching time
lapses of storms this morning on her scrolling on her iPad,
and uh, with you know, the wind and people.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
We're fascinated. We're all fascinated with weather. And of course
we because we have you have to deal because we
can't just sort of pretend.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
It's not happening.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
You have to totally.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, it's really, it's it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
So we so we come off of a Valentine's Day
stepping into sort of the late stages of of a
winter experience here in southern California. Winter blistering cold winter
continues in the east. We had a little contest, Pamela,
what did we do over?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
We did and the people came through so hard.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
It was so good.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Okay, So last episode, because we had Valentine's Day, felled
between when our episodes air, so we had a little contest.
Last week. We showed little funny Valentine's mock up cards
from Prairie characters, and we asked everybody to contribute their own,
and then we picked five that we featured. So I'm

(04:38):
going to give you the five that we featured on
our social media that were the quote unquote winners. Although
everyone was a winner, because oh my god, you guys,
they were so good.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Everyone everyone wins.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Let's just everyone is howling over.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Let's see the top the top five that were chosen.
Are we ready, Dean? You haven't seen any of these, right?

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Have you not seen them?

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Maybe? Maybe I've seen them, but let's share them.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Okay, Oh they're so good.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Okay, Okay, let let's do it. Let's go, Tony whenever
you're I don't see anything yet. I see it.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
All hate me?

Speaker 1 (05:18):
There it is miss Nancy, my hideous adopted sister, soaking
wet from the dunk tank. You all hate me.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
And it's true. Is she and her mermaids horble bad?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Eighteen hundreds mermaid costume? Drenched? Drenched?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
I don't know. I thought it was pretty impressive for
an eighteen hundreds of mermaid Prairie mermaid costume, but anyway, yes,
you all hate me, Nancy Olsen and we did, we did,
and we do. It's true we didn't do. Okay, Next, that's.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
That was my favorite. That was the one.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
The handy Man. This was the This was the favorite,
the overall favorite of everyone who saw it. So it's
the handyman build. I can fix more than your roof
bound jagabound bow.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Yeah, looking like he.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Can, he really can't.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Adorable. That's really funny.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Okay, next one. These were all so clever. Really, I'm
just here for the candy. And let's face it, folks,
he is.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yes, and he just looks it. There is really great
favor his hair is everywhere.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
It just so it all totally works for him to
be that kid. Yeah he's but yes, well, we all
just well at times.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
We're all there just for the candy. And Valentine's Day
does offer. We had we had a jar of chocolate
kisses at home. I don't you know the hershey I
love the Hershey's.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
And we killed them, of course killed them all.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, chocolate covered strawberries.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
I got chocolate.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Oh my god, We've got something healthy along with that.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
There's a box of chocolate and then there's a huge
box strawberries.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Fruit Yeah, it's for it counts nice, it counts healthy,
all right. Next, next, hot Doc, I've got the cure
for your broken heart. Yes he does. Here. This is
for all the hot doc folk out there.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was you know, kept well,
we've talked about Kevin. He was so he was so
solid in this and just throughout everything he did was
so present. He was such a nice actor and present
to what he was being asked to do. Always. It

(07:37):
was really really good.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah. Well his If you do think hot doc is
hot doc, it's because of his total confidence in his
the way he goes.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
He kills so many people.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
But he also saves so many patients without antibiotics. He's
a miracle man. He was working with nothing. Pause when
it's you know, run down by the stone and the
doc is like, don't worry, nothing on the inside is broken.
I'm like, how do you know? You don't know there's
no internal bleeding? How the hell do you know?

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I had a couple of poultices and some cough syrup
and some quiet and.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
A little morphy and hidden in the closet more exactly. Well,
it saved mo from her legs. So I don't know
what he did. It was a miracle. Okay, is there
one more, Tony? I think there's one more? You don't

(08:38):
we all?

Speaker 5 (08:38):
We all love our dog, Benny sent Catherine at Valentine.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Benny's a very good boy, very good boy. So these
were the top five that we featured, but I have
to say I felt like I couldn't ignore some of
the other the other the other one. So I'm gonna
give some. We're gonna go down real quick, some honorable
mentions because they made me yaggle with laughter. Okay, first

(09:05):
is I'll tumble for you, Carrie or alternatively alternatively. We
also got I'll mumble for you Carrie. Four kills were good,
and I also one imagine Percival wearing a crown and

(09:27):
Nellie just saying, my Prince. That's the that's the Valentine's part.
Nelly in a wheelchair. Visual of Nelly in a wheelchair
saying I'm paralyzed by your love. Oh here's one. This
is I appreciated this one. Susan annoying blind girl, Blind girl, Susan,

(09:50):
I'm here for you, Valentine. Here Andy, you shout out
to Andy gar I would never cheat on you, mister
Edwards Old Nan Tucker was a fine old man, but
he's got nothing on you, Bounty. Okay, ready, bad taste,

(10:14):
awesome comedy. Here it is Alice, Alice Garvey, my heart
burns for you, terrible.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Love that she loved that.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, okay, here's another merry one ready. I've only got eyes.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
For you, missus, missus Whipple, got one ready, miss Whipple.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Love is a stitch in time, brilliant Nells Nells, you
defeat me, I mean you complete me. And last one,
last one, honorable mention. Another one for the hand man.
Don't call me uncle, call me daddy. That's so dumb,

(11:11):
so good, so good, so good.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
And there are people that commented on our YouTube channel
for this that like, we're writing actual Valentine's Date messages
like cars, as if they were writing an actual card
for one of some of the characters. And so there'd
be one for Mo, there'd be one for Pothered, be
one for Lord, and that were like paragraphs long of
like these loving messages for these characters. Yes, full role,

(11:39):
yes completely So anyway, thank you you guys. You far
surpassed our expectations. It's like you really just you were awesome.
Thank you so much. We loved it. It made me happy.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
We speaking of love, speaking, speaking of love and the
challenging road to love.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Here we will get to this. Yes, in this episode
we consider part two, Yes, of a story where the
course of love is bumpy, hot and cold at times,
called the Prairie Taming of the Shrew. Yes, indeed. But
first from ubn go and Prairie partners and visit seen
me valad dot com and of course our wonderful Patreon patrons.

(12:22):
This is the Little House on the Prairie. Fiftieth anniversary podcast.

(12:44):
All Right, you guys, my god, how I love these
episodes so much. They're so getting good and they're so loaded.
So here we go. We there so much to talk about. Dean,
explain what episode?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
All right, well, today we're talking about fisode twenty four,
the season finale, Yes, the season six part two maybe
he Loves Me He Loves Me Not, which debuted May twelfth, nineteen.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Eighty finale geez yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yes, a nice season finale that sets things in motion
for season seven. Written and directed by Michael Landon Allison.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
What is this about?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Well, I mean, what is it not about? There's so
much going on in this episode, it is control well.
Laura berries her broken heart in helping Mary and Adam
keep their blind school afloat. Meanwhile, Almonzo also known as
Almonzo Manny manly Zeldomo and now in this episode and

(13:44):
he did another name, al Yes, proved that while he
may be stubborn, he is also secretly devoted to Laura.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
Yes a good Valentine's message.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yes, yes, and it's kind of with the real o'manzo's
character in the books. And this one really is predictably
pride plus exhaustion equals collapse. Oh Indeed, when Laura learned
he nearly worked himself into the grave for her for
her dream, anger melts into relief.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
This is where she.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Finds out all this stuff that she thought was having. No,
that's not happening. This is more like the real Almanza
who drove her across country to the school.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
This is the guy.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
This is the guy. Meanbile Nelly falls for Perceval. How
could we not the only man who ever told her no?
And they're engaged, married and off to the honeymoon of
very speed. I know we went from I love you,
marry me.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
That's a babe, Yes, lesson in all I Grow Love
is stubborn, sacrificial, occasionally life threatening, and sometimes answers to
five different names. Somebody asked me the other day if
I still answered to Nelly, and I said yes, And
of course, what does Poordine answer to Alie?

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Am we have a tea.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Show, We do have an T shirt and armor shop
that says all of the names I know? And yes, okay, well,
epic episode, epic epic two parter. Okay, let's start from
the very beginning, a very good place. You've got questions
because you've been obsessed with the stores. I have questions. Yes,
I am representing the fans people, I have questions for

(15:20):
me and the masses. Okay, but first we start off.
Laura is in the courthouse aka New Blind School, cleaning cleaning, messy,
messy p s. By the way, whoever the costume designer
that had her in that red outfit, like that's her
signature color, her signature brilliant, the red. I don't know

(15:41):
what it is about that particular red two which is
just so striking and it's so right for her, it's brilliant.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
And what's all the sons about? Like redheads can't wear
red that's like very the red do we do we.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Characterize as Laura as a redhead? I mean thinks it's
a full shade, but it.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Was a brunette in real life.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, like yeah, so in some light it looks red
and in other lights that looks down outfit.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
This little little scarf on the head, little kerchief is
one of her best looks.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
It is.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I love this lady too. This is what this is
the real Laura. She's finally grown up. She's getting but
getting down and dirty. She's now a lady, but a lady.
Got put a rag on my head and grab a
mop and get in there. And there's something about this look.
But this dresser's that there, there's our Laura.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
I'm glad it's not just me because there's something about
how she looks that's like it's just jarringly different, which
is good. We need we need to view her as
long as she's a woman now, right, Like we have
to look at her that way.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
It's still pretty well, Okay, it's sort of a hybrid dress.
You look at that. I look at the dress and say,
I mean, is that it's not like the.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Teaching No, it's not like saloon girl. Dress either. I
mean it's not a fancy dress, it's just the color,
the hair down obviously, and looking like a like a
like a person, not like a little kid like, looking
like a someone of a bit more substance and experience.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Like a girl going off to crete.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Exactly right, Okay.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
So we get the challenge.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
That mean that the challenge is laid out right away.
Here the problem in the episode is laid out right
away when Houston shows up with mister Pims.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Mister Pims, Now, what the hell is Houston saying? I
don't know he's speaking? And is it creole accent? What
is it? What kind of accent takes that.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Speak I've heard thrown around? I mean, what do we
call that? Now we're jealous, and I'm.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Not mad at it. I just I have no idea
what he's saying half of the time. But that's okay
because I love him.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
You And how did she make didn't she make a
deal with him and have huge negotiations to get the
price down? And then this guy shows a piece owner,
so that so Ali, he's not even the owner. What
the hell was he talking well to her about? And
now the owner has shown up making demands and it's like, well,
well maybe she should have to him first.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Well, this is what's odd about this is that you know,
mister PINNs is the bad guy, but actually like, no,
he needs to get paid that Like, that's not He's
not was a bad guy. But if someone was moving
into a building that hadn't paid a red cent for
it yet and they're like, you can't kick us out.

(18:32):
The blind children are coming, and he's like, well I
didn't ask the blind children to come, and she's like,
but they're blind. I'm like, Laura, you haven't paid. Like's
not lowered the price.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
He already lowered the pride.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
He lowered the price to forty dollars a month, but
they needed eighty because it was down payment first all. Yes,
so at this point they only read sixty started, it
started one hundred. They got down I'm warding, but they
need eight crazy yes, but they only have sixty dollars
and fifteen cents right now. But they're blind. Worst line,

(19:09):
terrible line.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
But because like Charle Mingle, not a great business person, apparently,
as Charles never seemed to have enough money was always
he was always wrong.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
They always had enough, but never a cushion right always got.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
By they're no saving.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
But they never had a correction, and that's this is
a situation where it really helps to have.

Speaker 5 (19:29):
A good right.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Well, while this conversation is happening, though, Almonzo shows up
and Laura realizes, oh my god, he's here, and they
start having an awkward but nice conversation, and then the
douche baggery commences. Dean, Yes, the Reddit readers were correct
this time. Douchebaggery begins because he starts going on. He

(19:55):
makes a little jab about.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Her pop and if he loves you so much.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
That's right, and it's gross. It is gross.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
It's gross.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yes, it's again.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
I think he's the way I was watching this. I
was watching this again and by one of my favorites
still pictures of me from the series comes out of
particular scene. My social media director Jim brawl Here calls
that look the smolder.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
But before the douchebaggery exactly smolder before. It's a little
smug in this conversation.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yes, yeah, and she's like she's like trying to stay
and keep her head above water and he's being a
little smug, I think, probably suggesting I knew, you know,
it's sort of saying I knew you couldn't leave me,
you had to follow me here.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
And which is let me ask for the money. Though
notice mister mister kind of not the bad guy bag.
He's got the mustache and he's doing you must pay
the rent, and she goes, I can't pay the rent.
You must be went, Oh, it's the old sketch from
the melodrama, complete with mustache. You must pay the rent.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
I can't pay the rent.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
You must pay the rent. And then who shows up
with a big book, I'll pay the rent. That's it's
the bit. Yeah, they're doing that the the well the
melodrama scin.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Sono hears this conversation in the midst of the douchebaggery
and makes decision and his heart melts a little, and
we see him affected by this conversation that Laura has
with mister Binns about not having enough money. Right, but
they're blind horrible line anyway, so we move on.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
So he goes and gets it.

Speaker 8 (21:45):
He immediately goes and gets it a second job.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
So is this right? So if I'm correct, it's from
three in the morning till ten in the morning he's
delivering ice and then from eleven a m. Until whenever
dinner time. He's working at the store.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
In the store and the job that he jumped at
was the last guy you had it stop working because
he hurt his back moving the ice. And he goes,
I'll take it.

Speaker 5 (22:18):
He really he really needs it.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Jobs that he's strong enough to handle it.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Last guy went out on a stretcher.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Sign me up.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Tony went out on a stretcher.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
So he gets this job. We cut back to now
we are back in Walnut Grove. Ma and Pa and
Laura are eating in the dining room of Nelly's restaurant
and talking about the situation. Now, there is a really
obvious over dubbing looping line in here of Laura. I

(22:52):
mean it is it has always stood out to me
always the you wouldn't the lineup. You'll have to meet
him mob and you would be so sure. Guess all
I can do is try and it is clearly coming
from another place at another volume level. It's not the
best looping job.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, I mean, I think you know we did not
do a DR the way a DR.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Is done now.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, we have technology.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, there there was no okay, you might have stepped
away from the microphone. If there was like you were
yelling in a loop line, you may if they may
have backed you off a little bit, but basically there
was no perspective change, no sense of space, none of that.
They were going to attempt to handle all of that

(23:36):
on the dubbing stage with EQ and trying to you know,
do things to sound. But I just don't think that
with the amount of looping that was done, and it
was a lot of looping that was done on the show.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Everything that was outdoors was looped.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Weird, you know, you just you couldn't get too fussy
about it.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, well you went to a dark room the Techno
in big dark room and just kind of there.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Did you have and you didn't have a video in
front of you? To make sure you're no video? Did
you sing the I had a video? You heard it
and they have to replicate keeping, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
It's called looping.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
So you hear on the mad in your headphones and
not incidentally not too can but what one that you
hold in your ear, that you're holding up to your
ear and you hear B B B talk and you
listening to yourself, you have to remind yourself where you were,
what you were doing all of that. But this is

(24:34):
the way you could do thirty loops in in half
an hour. You couldn't do on an ADR stage. That
just simply wouldn't be possible, and the amount of looping
just required a different way.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
So for the only time I saw video was a
wild line and they showed me and it was we
were running around in the pond with a bunch of
girls slash.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
So you did see a dr.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Once in a blue moon, and it was that they
just ran it because they said, we don't know what
the hell you say? It was a wild life do
you know what you said? Oh? Yeah, I think I said,
oh great, well then and then we just said that.
But I think maybe twice in seven years I saw
a video and it was because I said, we don't
it's a wild line, so just like yell something or

(25:15):
we don't know what the hell this even is? Can
you help us? But usually it was yeah, And I
always it was always so funny with mine because it
would be like beep, my mother says for something insane thing,
and then like a crow you'd hear in the middle
of it you went, yeah, I guess that's yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
so insane very difficult.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Who knows what happened in the restaurant in that moment
that required I know something had to happen, you know,
so that we just don't know about something dropped, something whatever.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Walking the wooden floor, some weird thing.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so bad louping moment. But then Nelly
in Percival come out of the kitchen. Nelly has baked
a new pie, and.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Do you know what kind of pie?

Speaker 1 (26:03):
We don't know in that one, I'm trying to re marriage.
It's not the cherry pie.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
I thought.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Blueberry filling.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, I couldn't see the filling in this one. But yes,
everyone is terrified to eat this because I have finally
cooked something myself. But as opposed to previously bringing up
poor Dan McBride to show him, and I love Dan
McBride's heavy in this one.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, that's so good for those of you are going.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Dan McBride. Just Dan McBride was in a movie called
Loose Shoes with Robert Wexler, mister Pims, Mister Pims and Dan,
Dan McBride, Henry Riley, We're gonna movie together. It's like
it's very very weird, and and Dan McBride was apparently
quite beloved by Michael Lanna because he was in Killing
Stone and he later I would hey did everything he

(26:50):
was in, like all the Michael lenn directive studs.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
He had a really strong organic quality to that kind
of that snark thing that I don't know what else.
All I know is what he I didn't see the work, Yeah,
but he absolutely had control of what he was doing.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
He was this weird character actor who could nail the thing,
be the guy, the guy who gets with the food.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Yes, yeah, it was great always.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
So they're all afraid of my pie. And this is
the thing I kind of experienced in real life because
of the show. So many people think I can't cook.
So this is a thing that people who don't know
any better. I'll go, I've made dinner, and they're like
to do order in and they're like terrified to eat
something I made. And then they eat it and go,
oh my god, this is freaking delicious because duh, I
can so yeah, this is the first time Nillie it's

(27:36):
proven she can cook. She did learn. And they all
hesitantly try this pie and they kind of freak out.
And then also I'm nice and which really just the.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Pie is good and she's nice so that she and
person will leave and mon Pod and Laura like what
the right last?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
It will last?

Speaker 3 (27:56):
And then Laura mentions to Matin Pod guess son sleepy
I and Ma plays all innocent as if she never
knew that Almanza was actually there and purposely didn't put
Laura in the same place as he would be. So
she plays coy pause, very amused.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
By Pause looking at her.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah yeah, and uh says that, uh they got into
an argument and you know it's it's over.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
It's officially over, say about me, and he was a
little defensive and yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
So he goes old douchey at the table, right, So
he goes, oh, yeah, he's been old, petty and jealous
and weird. Looks like it's like.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
People get douchey and not you know, got other people
do it?

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Did it all the time. Paul would like freak out
and act in haste and get very rash and be
it total douche and getting well like when he beat
you up in that first episode and just go nuts,
and then later have to have Mary go before a
and because he would get doushey yeah, yeah yeah and
make a full of himself didn't and.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
I guess it's an admirable quality.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
You are allowed temporarily as long as you get like
redeemed later.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Well, and then the scene ends with uh Perceval snapping
his fingers and going, you can do the dishes, Nelly, Right,
he's not doing no dishes. I'm going to bed.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, I hadn't done dishes before.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I just think he is bossing you around now. I
wrote my notes like, who knew Nelly was a submissive?
You are totally totally a submissive girl. Do the dishes.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I was in love and then I just learned it.
Put the dishes. That's part of the test. I've never
done a bloody no.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
And now he's bought me. Oh look the food comes off.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
And he's so dominant and masculine, and it's a turn
on which it is. I mean he is, he's very sexy.
In that moment, there's the weird life's working, its working,
and that's the line he goes up the steps. She
longingly looks at him, and then finally says, yes.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
My prince, my prince, my pen yes, and.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
We are all Nelliolson in that moment. I just have
to say he's so awesome. Never would I have thought
he's so awesome after ordering me to do dishes. But
there's something super masculine about him.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
But it's I get it. She's learning new skills. This
is a girl who didn't learn how to do anything.
She was kind of good in school if she wasn't
cheating that. I mean, she was so full of cress.
So it's like, what did she know how to do?
She knew how to like bride people, that's yes, but
she had no real, like hirable, discernible, employable skills of

(30:53):
any kind. She couldn't cook, her clean or do this
or do that. She was really good at his stuff
in school, the hell do you know how to do?
Suddenly she now knows how to cook. She now knows
how to do that, and I'm sure the ditches. It
wasn't just dish. It was efficiency. You use this much
hot water and that much soap. When you see how
when you win them in this water, it's like, yeah,
it's like suddenly home at classes. So she's thrilled in
a way. And sometimes when you're learning new skills, I mean, like,

(31:17):
my god, if you take like martial arts or any
sort of thing it's and you're learning something new. You're like, yes, sir, yes, ma'am.
You're like Robberie got a coach.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
He's her.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
He is sent the kitchen.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yes, yes, chef yes.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
And he's like going, oh my god, I know how
to do all this crap. And I didn't like a
week ago.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
And now he will obviously love me because look at
how good I'm doing and how hard I'm working. And
I'm yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
He's so smart and so cute and so strong.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yes, like correct light ding ding ding he is. I
love him so much.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
And he's a good businessman. He's making the restaurant run,
that whole thing with my mother and the father and
the thing in the mercantile being a good businessman. And
he's not nobody, no store is going to go broke
with this guy running it.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
That is true. It is true. He's the guy.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
All of this was, all of this was wonderfully.

Speaker 8 (32:18):
So good you you you, and he delivered on all
of this so wonderful.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
What the relationship that you created with him instantaneously was
so wonderful.

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(33:20):
House fiftieth Anniversary podcast. We talked right away when he
first showed up on the set, and like I said,
it was like being you know, married off. You wait
in the village, right husband, Why what is happened? I
was just turning eighteen. He's like, what is going on?
And and every time any short guy walked on and
said is that him? Is that him? And me Melissa going,
he's it that guy? And then he showed up. I

(33:41):
was like, let it be him, Let it be please, please,
let it be that guy. Get He's like yes, And
then we start talking and it's like, what's your favorite dude,
what's your favorite band with movies do you like? And
he like answered correctly, he liked all the right things,
and he s sort of got quizzed him about his
entire life and went, Okay, he's smart, he's hip. He'll
he'll he'll do, he'll do. He's okay, And and then
it just turned out to be like cooler and funnier

(34:03):
and smarter than anybody ever. And it was like, oh, yeah,
we're off to the races here.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, the chemistry between you two is amazing. And also
with Nellie, it's the first time we see her genuinely
feeling anything. Yes, genuinely love the pig Farm. That's true,
that's true. But this is different.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
You did, but this is different, This is much more.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
This is more. Yes, yeah, this is different.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah you literally were you surrendered to this? Yes?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, for sure I knew, and.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
In a really lovely way.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
I think as I watched this last night, you know
your performance is really wonderful, and I think for audience
who knew you in this particular way to see this
peel back and watch you respond in a completely different way,
so fully and completely had to be absolutely won.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
And the suspense will she make it because this pop
goes oh yeah, and we saw what happened with the
pig farmer, so people are going, wow, she's wait is
this for real? Just is this gonna like just is
she gonna freak out and blow the whole thing? Or
is it like she's gonna make it?

Speaker 4 (35:16):
How well we've seen we look, we see like, but
I don't know. In the next scene back.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, yeah, we see the switcher.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
That maybe this isn't gonna right.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, work take not to take effect right right away?
It's yeah, yeah, there's definitely But I love that. I
love the scrip.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
That was my favorite taut after this. Okay, but first
what happens is now we're back in Sleepy Eye. We
see Almanzo, he's delivering ice and a lovely saloon girl
comes by, and let me just say something, I love
this woman. Oh yeah, a lot that she wasn't she

(35:57):
in general hospital for like twenty years freaking everything.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
She's on like everything in the world, Nancy Nancy Lee. Yes,
she was on a general hospital Port Charles Melrose Place seventh.
I mean she was the principal. She was on every
show she was on.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
One Life like twenty five years or something like that,
and then I guess the other.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Everything she'd go to IMDb. It's she was on all
the soaps. She was on many many shows. She's a
real serious working out she was on everything. Yeah, she
is real.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
But what I love about her in the scene. First
of all, she kills this scene. She's perfect and it's
a short little scene and she's so freaking good in it.
But what feels so why I was like, I love
this woman is because we never see women on little
House in the Prairie who are sexually free, or confident
or just sort of open. And it was sort of

(36:48):
like for me a breadth of fresh air that this
woman was like not afraid to be like, hey, what
you doing tonight?

Speaker 5 (36:53):
That was not the prairie one.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
It was not the prairie way. That's why she she
was like, Oh, there are girls like this out here. Awesome.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, because everybody's married, everybody's married with kids, or there
are a school marm and there's not like there's the
Postmas stretches. There's not a lot of hubba hubba going on.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
And I loved her for it.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Christian girl and here is like, that's.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
The part that you would have killed the saloon girl.

Speaker 6 (37:25):
You are right, Oh god, Dina's casting is the saloon girl.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Something has gone horribly or horribly wrong here, that's true.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
That a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Oh yeah, Harry, and that yet name.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I love her and I love I love how when
you turn her down, Dean, the expression on her face
is just like what I mean, she's she just nails it.
It's one little scene it doesn't and she's so good.
So anyway, the point of this is the long girl
is here hitting on Almonzo like any good girl would,
and Laura comes by on the wagon. At the time

(38:10):
she comes and sees him at this particular moment, he
is wiping the water that has splashed well, whether it
actually did splash on her back, yes, probably on bond purpose.
So he's doing he's wiping her back and Laura sees
this as she's passing and thinks, oh my god, he's

(38:32):
with this horrible, horrible fluozy of a woman. How could he?

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Laura only wishes she could have.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
For reels, That's what I'm saying. That's why this woman
was like a breath of fresh air to me. Of like, yes,
women can own themselves and their bodies and their sexualities too, like.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Come on, terrible Laura nearly to the yes. I mean, I.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Don't know if do you think Laura has gotten the
birds and the bees conversation with Ma at this point.
I don't know if she has. I doubt it.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
That's an interesting that's an interesting thought.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I doubt I've only told the girls who grow up
on farms because they know where the baby cows came from,
and they know where the baby you know.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
It's I mean, it's a little side story, really interesting.
My my I have family and the horse business in Charlottesville, Virginia,
and I was back visiting during the little House years.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
I went to visit. They do hunter jumping.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Things beautiful in Charlottesville, Virginia. And one day I was
in the barn and they were doing a breeding.

Speaker 8 (39:37):
Oh wow, And so the stud is led in and
I mean in the barn was just just a group
of ten eleven twelve year old girls watching this humans Okay, yeah,
and you know the mayor's being teased and you have
to find out if.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
The mayor's ready, and you know, all of this that's
being done with the study. Have either of you ever
seen now, it will change your attitude about sex entirely.
It is wild to watch it, really, And I'm sitting
here because I certainly had had the Birds and the
Bees conversation and knew, ever, you know, knew what was
I was looking at. And to imagine a group of

(40:19):
ten eleven twelve year old girls watching this, there's no
mystery now after you know exactly what's going to happen here,
and it was it was pretty powerful. You never got
the sense even though Laura was we never saw anything
like that.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Yeah, it was sanitized, but by god, she was on
a farm and she had to see the cows and bulls,
and the horses came from somewhere, and in the books
there's a horse gets born and a calf gets born
and stuff. So yeah, yeah, you're not baby Carrie has
a general idea of where babies come from. They all
kind of go, well, you know, yeah, it's just nice.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
Girls don't talk about it.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
You don't discuss such.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Things, but but you know, it goes on.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
I don't, and I think this is still true, obviously
less lesser so, but you know that whole thing of
like women can also have pleasure. I don't. I don't.
I don't think that was to do you know what
I mean? That was not that the no, No.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
It was this we're talking purely functional. Yeah, I mean
this is biological. It has nothing to do with sensual
place right.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
There were it depended because since all the conversations were
in secrets, like we don't really know it was. The
public face was oh, yes, of course, a woman's duty
and I want children and I love my husband.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
But were not were yeah, who took.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
The kid aside? And when she was getting ready to
marry her bow? Okay, career actually yeah, right, you.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Know, we're not hope, we're not shocking any of our
audience today as we have these things.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
They wrote the handyman meme. For God's sake, they.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Know most girls they were raised, Yes, what you're going
to do is get married, have babies, and that's simply
a part of it. But you know, you know, there
were parents. There were mothers who took their daughters aside
and said, okay, here's how it can go several different ways.
You you go your way if we you know, and
gave them helpful hints so that things, you know, what

(42:27):
there were obviously there were mothers that married a long time,
they figured it out and some of them did tell
their but it was such.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
A puritanical type of of course, you know, like I,
I don't know how much pleasure was being talked about
because I don't know how much pleasure women were actually having.
I mean, I really don't like.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Today many not. But it was very on the download.
It would be like your mother would tell you may
maybe your auntie would. By the way, it doesn't have
to be done right right.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Right right.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
That would have played against the moral responsibility the woman.
The way women are.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Friends, very patriarchalful. Yeah, I think there were women who
did enjoy things, but simply you didn't talk about.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
And that's why I was, you know, semi jokingly but honestly,
like the saloon Girl for me, is very enjoyable to
watch because she's there's a self, she is a she
is not like the other women on the prairie. Let's
just put it this way.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
And yeah, no, that's very that's very observant. Probably one
of the rare times we saw in the whole life
of the Yeah, it's a female character presented in that.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Way positive sexuality. Not for me, she wasn't just a fluozy.
Although I know that's why she wasn't hiding it. She
wasn't ashamed of it, and.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
It seemed like she liked it well.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Exactly, she's a book right.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Dress.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
It was more like the Belts.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
I love it. It's a great lie.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
I think it was quite that revealing.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
And I guess, standards to Laura's standards, I.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
Think there were always women that at the sewing circle
when the other women said, oh, my husband, well you know,
I do what I can, there were always a couple
of women go, oh, yeah, it's terrible. Yeah, totally. But
I wonder how much.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I wonder how much men knew about women's pleasure as well, right, Like,
it goes both ways.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I of course I don't know.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
I just always feel like that they don't know, they
don't and they don't care.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
Interesting, that would make an interesting documentary to explore that.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Yeh, sexuality and just yeah, yeah, what was what was sexual?

Speaker 4 (44:46):
You know, people were having a lot of children out
of just because they they had to. You know, women
were spent most of their fertile years pregnant because if
they were married.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
Because people lost children, they lost half their children.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Okay, did Nelly find out? I mean, yeah, they don't
show Nelly finds out he's Jewish.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Oh but before I wondered that too. What do you think?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
But if she knew that, if she, if she somehow
googled this in the eighteen hundreds and looked it up,
somehow googled it like it's got any books of judas
accident found out. She certainly found out later that in
Jewish tradition, making your wife happy is a mitzvah, and

(45:35):
a good husband, oh okay is expected to keep his
wife content. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Well, also, I you never, I never. There's something about
Nelly in personal where I'm like, oh, they're having great sex.
They're having I love the most amazing.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
That was one of my favorite things. You'll get to
her later.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
But Molly, because he knows how to give it and
she knows how to take it, let's just put it
that way. She's enjoying it.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
This is going to be this is going.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
To be a R rated We're gonna be in trouble. Okay,
People magazine. Yeah, People Magazine is gonna pick up on this.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Clinical maybe not, but this is definitely heading into that territory.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
All right, Well, you started with the horse breathing, don't
very clinical about the whole thing. Very close.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
You're good, I'm bad. It's sorry. I'll get back on track.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Here I go.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Although I do wonder about these things, and historically too,
not just not just little husband Perry, but it is
very fascinating to me. Very fast. Okay, So next here
we go. So now Laura's all pissed with Almanzo whatever.
We're back at the blind school. The blind hester. Sue
has arrived with the blind children, and also Laura has

(46:59):
found out from Houston that mister Pims has decided to
miraculously lower the rent to sixty dollars. So lo and behold,
she has the money. Everything's great. The blind kids are arriving.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
Now she knows the red is sixty dollars. The red
is still eighty dollars, you know or whatever.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Forty eight yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was going to
be forty month from now. It's suddenly magically become thirty
sixty now or not?

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Right?

Speaker 3 (47:28):
How did that happen? It's a miracle. All right, Here
we go, ready for the trash.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Something is now, Alison something.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
I'm just gonna I'm jump in here, because this is
not something you would know, Pamela. So, as Caddy is introducing,
as hester Sue is reintroduced, telling talking about the children.
All the children are names of female crew member.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Oh I love that.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
No, Oh my gosh, Well do you heard Richline Kelsey?

Speaker 5 (47:53):
Did you hear?

Speaker 1 (47:55):
And here's Richelie?

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Because whose name Richeline? In the eighteen seventies?

Speaker 4 (47:59):
Yes, yeah, I mean maybe maybe maybe that's that's the
one that jumped it out at me. So maybe it
was just the one name, but I thought that that is.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
So I'm here, I'm here, Here we go. Are we ready? Yes, Susan, Okay,
so of course.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
You've not gotten to act one yet, by.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
The way, Okay, we're gonna be quick.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
We're gonna be quick, okay, okay. Susan of course has
to have her freaking moment here, right, So she's so awful, Okay,
So she is the epitome sweet Yeah, yeah, yeah she
is that. She is like that the saccharin cloying like

(48:46):
it is so it is so over the top in
her preciousness that it ruins it for me completely totally.
She's like little pray. Oh, Susan, you get.

Speaker 6 (49:00):
An A plus again, you're the favorite student.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
No, no, no, last she's gross.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
I thought it was very sweet.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
That's because she's trying to make you feel that way.
But I can see right through her.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
But it's not wouldn't be the Prairie without at least
one of those seats. This is why our show got
made fun of with these family.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Because the other because the other kids that would come
on the show, even if it was one episode, one off, whatever,
none of the kids acted like that. That's why the
show was never like sacred, sweet gooey.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
Let's be fair to Susan.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
Susan didn't write this, but she acted it. She acted it,
and everyone went right there with her.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
No one pushed back on it. I did, and you did.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Even rewatch it. I mean, I've seen this a million times.
I was just like, oh, Susan worse. I'm sure she's
a lovely human being. Don't take this person.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
I'm sure she he's a lovely person.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
She is a lovely person. Obviously, I cannot stand it.
I cannot. I know I am not alone. Let's do everyone, listeners,
bonnet heads, it's gonna be. It's gonna be. Susan. I'm here, Okay,

(50:22):
let's move on. That was my rant.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Yes, okay, so I'm sorry before you move on the
shot when they cut to Kendy and she says, on
men or amen.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Keeddy is so beauty.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
She is and always present.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
He is absolutely spectacularly beauty.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
And she makes the praying work. That's the thing. When
Hester praise Hester, Sue sings to him, you don't go,
you don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
She's a difference.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
That's where she lives. That's where Keeddy lester, yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
And so when Jane says it's trying to pray, you
go with it. Susan, who bugs you?

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Oh my god, Susan. Yes, I hate it. And my
mother's name is Susan, and I'm mad that they share
the same name. That's how mad I am about Okay,
So now let's move on next next, what does happen?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Right?

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Right? So now the end of act one is Laura
is at home. She's crying, crying, crying. Actually she's not
at home. She's at the courtroom right school, and Mary
comes into say good night to her and Laura.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
That's lovely, it's like the sisters, and Laura is very sad.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
She tells Mary about the saloon girl and how her
outfit is really just more like a belt and not
a skirt, which is and Mary's like, that doesn't really
sound like him and if he's like that, then he's
not worth it anyway. And Laura's crying and crying and crying.
I want to go home. Here's a question that I
have for you, and.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
It buttons with She says I wanted to help about
six times, and that's sort of recurred that theme of home, home, Home,
she wants.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
To go Here's money.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I wrote down one of the best lines ever after.
It was more like a.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Belt love that line too, So funny, so funny. Okay,
my question for you is this. There are some scenes
in Little House in the Prairie where it's obvious fake tears, right,
like maybe the actor just couldn't couldn't get the real tears,
or maybe they had done so many takes that they
had to add crying all day and just couldn't and

(52:25):
they put on the artificial tears. And it's very obvious
that they're artificial tears. But whatever their artificial tears, this scene,
Laura is crying, crying, crying, and dry as a bone.
There are there is no wetness in her eyes at all,
And I thought, why didn't they add the artificial tears
to this because the whole scene she's sobbing, and yet

(52:45):
you think it's yeah, yeah, it was odd. It's always
been a little odd to me. But that's the kind
of cry it was. It was supposed to be. I mean,
that's the kind of cry.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
She was acting desponded.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
And this is no judgment on her whatsoever as an actor.
I mean, we've all been there. It was just like,
oh god, I can't she might have done ten takes
of this already.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Who the hell knows, Maybe, you know, maybe she didn't
want the menthol.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Well was it a choice?

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Like what how did the glitter?

Speaker 1 (53:18):
And there were there were the tears eye drops that
were just like a vizine kind of drop, and then
there was a glycerin and then there was a menthol blast,
right you know.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Which made you take Often people like was that just
available whenever?

Speaker 5 (53:32):
Any time?

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Anytime?

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Often they never like, give me the freaking menthol. I
can't give.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Thousands and endless crying scenes all the time. And what
if you would prepare they said, oh, we're going to
shoot some of tomorrows where I haead of schedule of
crying jags. You didn't know you so there's just like
he prepared for anything. So they had multiple ways.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
Just wonder why they didn't use anything on her in
this scene because it it's a little strange.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
I'm wondering because it was it this was a buzz
bog show. I think it was keyed down so much.
It was it wasn't like full bright light. It was
it was candlelight. I mean, so maybe they thought like,
we don't need this.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Here, like it's good. She looks like she's crying scale
with it, and just yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Mean I think I think, I think she conveyed. She
certainly conveyed emotionally what was going on there, the fact
that there was no physical you know. But here's the thing,
I think what we always have to wonder about in
these things. Is it her job to cry or is
it her job to let you cry?

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Right right?

Speaker 5 (54:41):
You know?

Speaker 4 (54:41):
And if you're if you are affected, now, if you
are not affected by that, because you're looking at her
eyes saying it she's dry like there's nothing, well, then
you're out of the then the moment's done for you.
But if you're not looking at that, but you're just
if you're in the character's head, you know you understand
is it's maybe gonna affecting.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
It is more like a belt. I believed her, oh
for sure.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
I believed everything was she was doing. But I think
for me it was Listen, when you're on stage, you
can get away with not having real tears. They can't
see them. You have distance. So when it's an up
close shot and your part, your character, your job is
that you are crying hysterically and saying I want to
go home, I want to go home, and your heart broken,

(55:24):
and you're you're saying this through the tears, and yet
there are no obviously no tears. To me, it's a
little disconcerting and it actually makes me feel sorry for
the actor because I know how hard she's working and
without the payoff of the literal tier. It to me
as an actor, and I know this is not the

(55:45):
general audience, but to me as an actor, it's like, Oh,
help the girl out. She's working and she's doing a
really good job.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Menthol and the glister an anthems.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
It was just sort of like, why not this scene?
I didn't I didn't quite get it.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Right right now, that's interesting and I think this was
the end of this This moment when they embrace at
the end of it is the end of act one.
And Laura's responded, I, you know, I think because Michael
had such facility with tears, I used the word for
specifically those two, he could turn it on in a second.

(56:22):
He had a trigger that he could go to. I
never there was no glistering, there was no menthall with Michael.
He made it happen. And I sort of know what
he was at we're told we sort of have a
sense of what he was using but emotionally to get there.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
And I think people felt a lot of pressure because,
of course, because.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
He could do it instantly right, so everyone felt like
they had to go there. And I think I think
that's you know that the show got criticized for that.
I mean, that's that was one of those things that
everyone's crying all the time and would they really be great?
But I think again, it's about it's about facilitating.

Speaker 5 (57:04):
The audience's experience.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
And if it's taking the audience into the right place,
and David Rose's cues are taking you emotionally to the
right place, it's all good. But there's a lot of
pressure because Michael could cry on the drum path for sure.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
Yeah, okay everyone, we're stopping here right now. I'm sorry,
I have to do it. This conversation went so long
that we are going to be back next week with
a part two of Part two of He Loves Me,
He Loves Me Not. This has been so much fun,
It's an epic conversation. Come back for the finale finale

(57:40):
of part two and in the meantime, thank you guys
for coming join us on our website Little House fifty
podcast dot com or our socials Little House fifty Podcast.
And this will gonna be me solo this week. Ready, Bob,
get the wig. I'm lying alone.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
The hill

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Ala, It's nothing