"The Reincarnation of Nellie Pt. 1" RECAP!

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Speaker 5 (01:24):
Why No, it's because you's just you snap into post books.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
That's true. That is really true. Okay, here we go again.
Here we go again. Ready, so here we go. Here's hello, bonnetheads.
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I'm your host and star and creator of Living on
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(01:52):
always with our wonderful prairie bitch, missus Allison Arngram and
our hashtag imaginary boyfriend Dean Butler. Hi, guys, we're all
in a balls Alisons and from once again.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
How's it going in Fred?

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Oh? Yeah, well, you know shows are selling out as
they are wont to do. I looked down the little
list as Complex, Complect, Complect, Compact, Complect, and we've gone
to some places. There was a place where in the
Cantal region where the cheese cantal. I had some cantal
in Kanal and it's that good totally. But they were

(02:34):
way way up in the mountains and the and we said, okay,
it's not quite sold out, because I think people could
find it. It was hard to get, hard to get to.
They actually but they did very well. They did very well.
They actually a good house. And and but there's some
others sold out, sold out, and we're going to Switcherland.
We did Belgium. We're going to switch all out. I

(02:56):
got to show their love the Swiss, their rowdy audience.
They're awesome and.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
Emotionally repressed on some level.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well yeah, unless it's a little house in the prairie
and Nellie Olsen and things going there.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
To say, you're going to get a whole lot of
emails from your Swiss audience saying otherwise.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
We love the Swiss are fun and the Belgians are fun.
They're very rowdy up north there. And and then of
course it's a dueling chocolate because people bring me some
so to mind, and I have to decide I.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Like best well, and so I'm going to get a
chance to have some chocolate this next weekend, going to
Long Island for the Chocolate Expo in Long Island Chocolate
Expo dot com. I'll be there with Patrick Laberteaux and
Todd Bridges. We are we are a trio of chocolate
eaters next weekend.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh boy, yeah yeah, we going together And that that
was freaking epic.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Man, that was It's so sad. You can't be up
this one, Alison.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
But yeah, they were like can you do this? Because
they moved the thing and they all we got better locations.
We're gonna go, like, yeah, I'm in France, so I
will have to draw my sores in Swiss chocolate.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
S freaking hills and it's almost Eastern. You should see
the chocolate bunnies and the eggs.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
Oh my god, how great?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Take pictures? Take all the pictures she takes, taking pictures
of all of her meals while she's in France and
each and like yeahs and.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
People are like, I want to see all of the food.
That we need to see all of the food right now. Like, okay,
so I've been like taking pictures of all my food.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
So you take pictures of the presentation when the plate
drops on the table.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
Yeah, nice, yes, great? How is the presentation? I mean
I would think it's pretty.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Good, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
But the duck the duck for lunch with the little
veggie thing. Duck is a little bit of duck. I
was like, I wanted something light. It's like they're like,
get the duck. The guy was they were pushing the duck.
I guess they had a lot of duck. They needed
Donelos to have the duck. And I'm like, yeah, I
know a whole duck steak thing de magra and he goes, no, no, no,
we do have. It's like a little ring and duck
in the bed way. No, okay, bring me back. So

(05:14):
I did that. But I had last night. I went
to the Middle Eastern place, the Savers of the Orient,
and they rock at the tanging the thing with the
chicken and potatoes and it's literally boiling at the table.
It's to olives. It's olives and lemon slices and potatoes
and a big ol' hunk of chicken, just cooked duck.

(05:38):
So yeah, I had that. And then there's home cooked meals.
See some of those meals that the pasta I had
the other night, I was going, oh, look at that pasta.
Just my friend with in my kitchen needed bosta. So
some of the meals have just been good old fashioned
home cooking and others have been fabulous restaurants.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, I'm like you, Alison, I'm a travel person that
the travel is centered around the food, the hands down,
hands down, like landmarks, okay, but food. Yes, that And
also I think that's how you experience so much of
the cultures by the flu with food.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Absolutely, and I'm very game I try it.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Yeah, you're good with Yes, you have a very adventurous palate.
I just want to acknowledge you're in France, Pamela, You're
obviously New York. I'm in southern California. We are all
honoring Saint Patrick's Day Green today.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
We're recording on St. Patrick'sday. Even though this episode might
not air until after St. Patrick's Day, if Tony can
finagle it and we don't kill him, this might drop
on Patrick's on this week. I don't know. I don't
know if that would be if we.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Could do that, that's right, let's let's we should get
we should well, Pama quickly before we do this. What
you are getting ready to get really busy?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I know, so uh yeah, No, I'm leaving at the
end of the month for Salt Lake City. I'm going
to be doing the show. Come from away your theater,
which I'm really excited about. This theater is awesome and
the show is awesome.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
So I brother, and.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
How they re beautiful show. I'm really excited about it.
So I'll be out there and then you guys don't
know this, but I've booked it. I've booked a couple
of things for the summer too. I'll tell you later.
But because because papers have not been signed, but the
offers are there, so well, you know, it's so nice
because it's been you know, COVID happened and it destroyed

(07:34):
the biz entirely, and then even after things picking up,
it was not easy for work. It just and a
year or two ago, I I literally was like, I
think that's it for me. I think I think my
career is over. Like nothing's happening, and and my type

(07:55):
especially was not being cast. They were just looking at
different types of people and and even my agents were like, sorry, kid,
there's nothing like do your own stuff. Hopefully this the
pendulum sort of comes back and there'll be more opportunities
and lo and behold, it's starting to be that way.
So it just feels really nice, it feels it feels

(08:16):
very satisfying. So and then projects. I'm really excited about
to so I'll tell you more when there's more.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
To awesome awesome, and we're after this, We're We're Arizona
in April, and then I'm at the Cherry Blossom Festival Missouri.
You're not, You're not, and they were both and Tombstone, Arizona,
and then I'm cherry bloss and then Jane and I

(08:42):
are at of all the things in the world, a
car show, yes.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
And it's car shows used to be a huge thing.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
But also car show.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Forty years and it's but it's in Maryland. It's Ocean,
which Ocean's city, and apparently it's quite the to do.
People like eric A Strata have gone and word is
at the hotel is fabulous and you're on the beach
and it's really fun. And I I do like old cars.
I happen to like fabulous cars, So I don't know.
People are already joking about are we gonna bring a

(09:16):
covered wagon? I don't but it apparently it is a
hoot and a half this event. I have heard it
is great and cruises.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
And I understand the collab between nostalgia and nostalgia right
like it's nostalgic cars and mixed with nostalgic entertainment. But
that does seem like an odd pairing of like join
the cast the Little House on the Prairie at the
car show, so weird gig, Get the gig.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
We'll have books and photos and it'll be fun.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
And I haven't been there.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
I think it's a you know, the woods. We haven't
been to some fans. We'll be able to pop on
over and there will be and it will.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Be a hill. I'm still we all know this, We've
talked about this, and I know we all agree about this,
but I'm waiting for the day where we go to
Canada finally to do some sort of live podcast or
event Canada. We're not forgetting about you, we know, we.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Know, Oh we're going to be you know, some of
us are going to be close to Canada in July
when we're at the at the Wilder Homestead and in Berke,
New York, will be will be ten miles from the
Canadian border, barely two hours from Montreal.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Is you know, Oh, can we pop on over because
that's almost it's almost like France, but.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
It really is. You know what I say about they
got some just got hands without people being obnoxious. Sorry, France.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
As a Canadian, I can tell you, Mike quebec Coow
brothers can do obnoxious whenever they need to, fully than
you can do it and make springs friends. You're generally
pretty well. I mean, okay, in Paris, I'm hanging out
with the loves and the fans.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah they're lovely.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah they may be French, but they're Prairie fans, right
to do no wrong?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
What like?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Okay are speaking of?

Speaker 6 (11:11):
Let's let's get to this show.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
All right, guys, Today times are holy moly, they're changing
in a grove. I started this episode and I was like,
oh wow, that's a time jump because we're doing a
season eight er today, which we haven't even done any
episodes really leading up to season eight. So it was
sort of like a jump scare turning into this episode.

(11:33):
But it's so good. We love it. But first form
Ubien go and Prairie Partners and visit Seemi Valley dot
com and patrons like you. This is the Little House
in the Prairie fiftieth Anniversary podcast. All right, guys, Dean,

(12:02):
what are we talking about today?

Speaker 5 (12:04):
Okay, today we're talking about episode one of season eight,
The Reincarnation of Nelly, Part one. The show premiered on
October fifth, nineteen eighty one, a relatively late period.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
I mean, these premiers were always sort of early, first
two weeks of September, and here we are October. Maybe
I'm just trying to think of what was going on.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I wonder what happened in nineteen eighty one.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
Something happened, but it was a relatively late premiere.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
October fifth, nineteen eighty one, written and directed by Michael
Landon as our premiere episodes that sort of was the
history of it.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
He would do those episodes.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Generally, and this one, this one was really really important,
which we're going to talk about extensively.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
Allison, what is this about? You know all about it
although you weren't there.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I weren't there. They do nothing to talk about me,
I know, trying to reopen my thing because you're I
had it all downloaded because it won't download on my phone.
I'm only down eighty seven devices only down.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
Do you want me to read what we have here
and you can go?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I have to come back here, you little devil Verica.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
Okay, okay, it's poof, It's.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Coming back here, but yet this episode, And I'm wondering
because this is Little House, a new beginning, and this
is the beginning, not yet this is but the opening
credits are weird. Everything's weird.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
The listen, Sue Anderson is out of the opening credit in.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
This she's out of the open credit appears. I think
she's in the episode. Everybody's leaving it, yes, right there
last like as a regular person.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
Actually, no, she wasn't even considered a regular in this episode.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Well, because I'm sure I'm sure she was out of
her contract by now and then had a deal where
she would do the one off and then out.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Well, we all, that's the thing. Seven years, we were
all a lot of our contract. That's the whole epic
thing of this show, which I will no doubt discuss
it like waitin my thing is open. So my synopsis
that we like so much here is absolutely fab And
here it is. Yes, indeed, because Nelly has moved to
New York with person because yes, Statistico take off the

(14:25):
store and this all sounds like a really good idea.
But Harriet falls into such theatrical terrible despair that Nels
actually goes to dtor Baker and tries to figure out
what to do, And the weird part is he says,
when maybe they should find a little girl. I've seen
a lot of comments online about this about he went
to that off me quickly.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh, she's we'll talk.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I don't even want to give I know.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I thought we'll talk about this when we get to it.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
We'll talk about it.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Yes, and I never really takes up here. It's too
super weird.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah, I can't get her sleeping pills, but you should
adopt a child. And at the Sleepy I Orphanage, everything
goes on in Sleepy I. Everything weird happened Orphanage. Harriet
rejects all the sweet, well behaved child. Of course, a
loud crash reveals Nancy, a fine sized menace who instantly
reminds her of Nelly. Delighted, Harriet brings her home, leaving

(15:18):
Nell's exhausted, Wally horrified, and walder Grove about to discover
that lightning can indeed strike the same spoiled brat twice. Yes,
and it does strike twice because this girl, Yes, miss
Allison Baalson, miss it. Yes, lightning struck twice.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
We really did.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Freaking dang girl.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
I love that I loved as uh, Harriet was reviewing
the girls, David Rose.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Did a que that was like a beauty pageant. It
was sort of like, you know, he's he's really sort
of having fun with this.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
She's and these very pretty, yeah, you know, attractive young
girls that would be you know, sort of like real girls.

Speaker 6 (15:58):
And uh, I mean whenever real girls. They just looked
like sort of normal prairie girl.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, they were adorable.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
They he just didn't get it. Harriet could not take that.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, and it's so it's so bonkers and I have
to tell you, Okay, now this opened his episode. Remember
it's the seven years that we all sign, and who
the hell signs is seven year contract? Nowadays, people go,
nobody signed the seven year contract. It's if you signed
a three year contract now for that's like nobody contract anymore.

(16:30):
I have not offered anyone signing seven year contract in
years because it was like everything's quick, everything's fast, everything's
streaming everything.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
No one will honor a seven Anybody who gets into
it far enough to justify that will have renegotiated.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
After season interesting free okay, or after season two, they
will have negotiated because the pressure is so intense.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Of course seven came for we just came out with
the studio system. So they said, let's limit it to
seven because this signing forever is outrageous, So anything after
seven was considered too much. But like seven because.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Seven, so especially when or twelve, when you start the show, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Nine or whatever, early eleven, it's like ridiculous. So you know,
signed the seven years contract and so then it ends
like what happens, Well, as we know in the real
world TV land, you'd go in and the agents and
the people didn't be seen. Everybody gets on the phone
and starts arguing about well, I'm coming back, I'm my
neck imming negative to the money. He's about that. And
there were some folks there who were real sticklers. I mean,

(17:34):
there's a whole story about the guy how he later
wound up in negotiation with Michael and he was like,
who is this guy? And that's yeah, apparently he was awful,
awful person, but he wasn't very negotiable. My agent was
extremely negotiable. They went round in circles and got absolutely
nowhere because you know, people come figure, they're getting to
raise after seven years. Not crazy, not a cuckoo amount

(17:54):
of money. But and the thing that we were saying
was because I was seven or thirteen, Okay, it's been
seven years, I think was I was nineteen. I was
over eighteen, and the big thing in show business is,
oh my god, you could get hired by somebody else
now because they don't need a welfare worker and I
need a parent. The thing it's an adult. And I
was cute and a cute nineteen year old, blond, blue,

(18:15):
white girl. There were opportunities, and my agent was like,
you could beat the cute girl in the movies on
another zhoe or something not involving a petticoat. Who knows
what could happen. And I was doingy stand ups. So
had I known it was only going to go for
two years?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
It was good, okay, but they said none, you have
to sign four. You have to be locked down for
four now at nineteen twenty twenty one. Okay, if I
was released twenty one to start my career, so that
wouldn't be terrible, but twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,
I wouldn't be able to start in Hollywood on a
film Curgil twenty three. Yeah, see's a bit long. And

(18:54):
then the big bone of contention was literally my last
episode before the thing ended. My last episode, my entire
dialogue and the whole episode was more coffee and two
lamb stews, please, And so that was a big bone
of contention where mag was like, well, give.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
Her and we'll ta nice. And that was the problem.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, that was the problem. I got nice and nobody
knew what to do. After a while, they just did it.
It was fine, we had the twins. That was nice.
And then nobody knew what to do with me, and
then it was like yeah, and so my agent was like, look,
give her more episodes, give her less episodes, give her
more to give her any just make something up, give
her something and we'll take the terrible money whatever. Nope, no, no,
they just didn't. And so it's like, okay, we'll take

(19:35):
the money, but give him more to do. Not doing that, susan,
And so we only bother me.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
What do you want to do?

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I mean, you're nineteen, and this is like, you know,
if you want to take a gap year, go to college,
start a theater career, go do stand up, get on
the road, go do movies, go audition for film. Holy moly,
you could do X Y and Z where you could
serve coffee. W So yeah, so I wound up. I said, yeah,
you know, career wise, I liked being there, but it

(20:05):
would seemed kind of weird career wise to say, yes,
I'll do that another four years and had they said too,
but I'll live. So it was all very weird. So
then they go, well, all right then, and then this
episode shows up, and I know that Marisa su would say, yeah,
Melissa soon wanted to start her career because she was

(20:27):
saying thing she was eighteen week, I want to get
on with it. I got movies to make and things
to do, and that's what you do. I mean, I'm
sure when Michael Landa was nineteen tithe was serving coffee
all day on Bonanza, he'd had a thing or two
to say about it. So I watched I have watched
this episode, Yeah, I had watched it, And God, I
love Allison Bahlsen's psychopath Nancy. She's going bad seat, She's

(20:51):
going for Patty McCormick, Bad seat, kill people, and I
love her for that. I am like, yes, But the
opening thing I've talked about how the return of Nelly
was like no acting necessary because everybody did miss me
and was like, oh, you're back. When they get the
letter that Nellie's not coming back, and it gets weird

(21:13):
because Harriet and Nell's are upset. Now, both Catherine and
Richard are very, very good actors, but I'm watching that
scene with Richard Bull there in the kitchen when he's
like losing it over the fact that Nelly isn't coming back,
and I was like, was he like that? Bummeda was gone?
Oh oops, I'm sorry, Richard.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
Richard was always wonderful, but he was really lovely in
that scene as he's explained that to Caroline. What was happening?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Oh my gosh. Those opening scenes, well, let's take it
from the beginning. The beginning starts where it's established, Well,
we're in the restaurant in Mods, working in the restaurant,
and Nelly's not there in Mod's totally overworked and over Yes,
and it's because Nellie has gone to New York because
Perceval's father was supposedly sick, and.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
She keeps saying he's fine, he's fine, he keeps getting
better as nonsense.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yes, and she's already been gone four weeks and she
doesn't think the father is ever going to die and
they're expecting her to come back, and then they get
a message saying his father has in fact died. But
and also they are never coming back because Perceval has
to take over his father's business. So devastating. Of course,
it's devastating, But let me tell you something. The tenderness

(22:36):
of the scenes between Nell's and Harriet in this I
mean her reaction when she finds out, his reaction when
he finds out, the way he talks to Ma about it.
It is devastatingly beautiful the two of them. And you
see the connection so strongly in their relationship with you

(22:59):
ali us in you Allison, You're you're absolutely.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Right thing up on that that's bleeding into it. There's
just hold doubt of how how would Nels and Harriet
feel if Nelly didn't come back. But we're also seeing
Catherine Richard go man, Alice is not gonna be here,
and it's like total, yep, totally.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah. And and also you see in their relationship between
the two of them the actual love and tenderness, which
is always very refreshing to see because then you're like, oh,
Nels isn't entirely in hell and unhappy the entire time.
He actually loves.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Right, right, I'm sir. We never know quite why, but
he loves. And he's also he's right when he goes,
we don't have to watch the grand children. Now he's
totally out of the nest. The Willi's we could do
He's like, we could travel, we could do stuff. And
she's just like, no, no, I want grand babies. I
want to stay.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
The grand because, let's face it, folks, she's never seeing
her grandchildren. I mean maybe maybe a couple of times
in their lifetime, but she's not seeing her grandchildren again period.
That is devastating.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Like when they were adults and they take the train
to visit it to maybe if you're right, eighteen hundreds,
people don't just go boffety boo, no, no, no, okay.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
So then then then Harriet becomes very ill. She takes
to the bed as they say that she would, which
so it's very interesting that and there are there are
parents like this where their entire world is about their children,
and then when their children aren't there anymore, they have

(24:48):
no purpose. Period. Poor she couldn't give a crap about
It's different with Willie, it's not the same. She needs
a little girl.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
So what I'm noticing about all this is this starts off,
is that Michael puts all of this in motion so quickly. Yes,
he was so efficient as a writer. He could put
he could put all the jeopardy and the stakes. So
not only do you have the you know, you have

(25:23):
the Harriet Nell situation with Nelly that right away, you
get Adam and Mary and their decision, You get that
emotional turn. I mean everything is turning here. This was
you know, seasons eight and nine, certainly as they began,
each of those seasons was all about big changes.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, for sure. When that scene when Adam and Mary
dropped the bomb, oh we're leaving two's and like you
know those was playing the home game? Who know that
everybody ended a contract or go ahead? It's a miracle anybody.
But it had to freak people out. It's like whoa wait,
the Lean personal aren't coming back.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
And wait us I never thought of that. The audience
must have been totally shocked because there was no warning
that this was happening, right, Like, okay, so this is
a huge right, so I should tell the audience as
if they don't know, they know then that we're at
the ingles home. First of all, Adam can see which
again because we haven't found because we haven't covered any

(26:29):
of these episodes leading up to any of that. I
was like, well just for me, because we have not
recapped any of those later episodes yet. And I was like,
oh my god, you're seeing this is weird.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
Well we need to go back and do that.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
We do, we do. But how old were you when
you watched this episode? And did you flip out? Because
every scene opens with someone going and I'm leaving too,
Like what.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I don't know how old I was. I was probably
somewhere between eight or nine. And I will say though
I was never bothered by I mean, I loved Mary.
I loved Mary, so it was always sad for me
that she wasn't on the show anymore because I thought
I just thought Melissa's Anderson was just such a genius actor.

(27:16):
And I loved Mary, and so I was sad that
she wasn't there. But I loved Nancy. I loved the
new kids, like I wasn't mad about. I know there
are viewers who were like, oh no, the early years
were better in the later I was a I had
love for all of them and in many ways, there's
part of me that sort of enjoyed the later episodes

(27:38):
almost not more, but I enjoyed the later episodes. I
like seeing the characters get older and have relationships, and
so I was never bothered by it because Allison Baalsen
was so good at being Nancy I. And of course

(27:59):
no one can replace the og sitting right here, no
one could replace her. But because she was so good
at that role, it did satisfy that need of a
villain on the show in a wage that was told
because she was. If she wasn't as good as she was,
then it would have felt like a cheap replicat. But
to me, it never felt like a cheap replicant. It

(28:19):
felt She's.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
As if she's been bad, I probably would have been upset,
but she killed it.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
That was like.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Totally yeah, yeah, it was a hole.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
It was just it was a whole different flavor of
bad girl that was I mean, it was just it
was more, you know, Allison, you were never you you
were you know, if you were malevolent, you were sort
of benignly manevolent.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Well, she I was physically violent. She did disintentionally. She
did this intentionally. That was the thing when I met her,
and I was so pleased and she flat tiny little girl.
She flat out and told me, and I think her
mother was a psychologist. I mean she was very educated
about to say. She flat out told me she'd watch
a show and she said, well, I didn't want to
go to copy. Oh I grew up watching the thing.

(29:07):
Am I gonna be you? I mean, she's not an idiot.
And she said, well, you know you were well bitchy.
So I decided to go with crazy and crazy she
did wow, and she said, yeah, I went with it.
She's very disturbed. She's been the orphanician. This girl clearly
has problems and has a whole psychological thing going on.
And like I said, more bad scene. And she consciously

(29:31):
made a decision to do this too, that she wanted
to go that way, and that was in the script
that she was much more like that weird manipulative stuff.
And it just threatened.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
I can't mean she punches people, she bites them.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
She's like a animal.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Yes, I wonder, you know, and we we'd have to
get Alison Ballson on and she's so difficult to she's
so difficult to schedule work. But now but you know,
what's interesting to me, and we'd have to ask her
about this, is had Michael conceptualize this difference in the

(30:09):
script that she auditioned with or did she bring this in.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
And he reacted to it? Because that scene right after
the you know, the Mud with Missy Francis and the
you know and all of that, and where she's it's
just really evil what she does, Yes, scary. And there
is the scene with with with Melissa and Missy Francis
where which is sort of an interesting scene where Laura

(30:36):
asked Cassandra to take the blames in the interest of
allowing Laura to frame a relationship. I'm sure you have
some comments on this. Oh yeah, some interesting psychological stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Going on here.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yes, there is.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
I think Ellison Boltsen brought a lot. I think, I
mean he may have said, well, we'll go with that
she's really the bad seed thing. But I think that
her audition was very similar mine, and that I think
she came in she did your thing. I think that's
what it was.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Okay, I have two questions. I have two questions and
then we'll get on with the with the show. So
so we see Mary and Adam. Yes, yes, yes, of
course I shouldn't say. Of course, sometimes they're not a
part of the show, but in this case, yes, I
have a question because you were there, Dean, you were there.

(31:29):
So Mary has her official goodbye, like Mary and Adam
leave on a skate stage coach. Everyone's hugging, everyone's crying,
and Mary departs the show period like she's done out.
I want to know, Dean, what if you remember, like

(31:49):
what that was like that day, her last day being there.
I also want to know did Boomer want to stay
and couldn't because Melissa was like, I'm done? And also Alison,
did Steve want to stay but couldn't because you were done?

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Indeed, Dean, do you know about you.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Know, it's interesting we've we've talked about me. I think
within the you know, sort of inside the inside the world.
You know, Melissa Sue Anderson was very insular, Yeah, as
a as a you know, as a person. So now
by the time I met her, she was already you know,

(32:29):
she had been she had gone through the blindness situation
as season or two before.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Baby Burning and fires.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yeah, I mean I think I think that she was
mentally on on her way looking for an exit for
a while. So when she was there, she was really
very she was cordial, she was but there was no
there was no relationship to have with her when she

(33:00):
was there, and she just was very insular about what
she was doing.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
Maybe she was thinking about what she was having to
do all the time.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
But it wasn't like the people that we were there
with that I experienced, where there was really an active,
a brilliant family atmosphere where people were laughing and telling
stories and it was you know, people had lunch together
and it was you know, it was a really it
was a very friendly collegial atmosphere.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
And Melissa Sue Anderson came in and just brought a
kind of quiet. There was sort of a little bit
of a wall around her, and it wasn't mean she
just was very private and she's.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Talked about that, and I think also by then she
was definitely sort of emotionally separating herself because she has
said that, Okay, and then there was the fire, and
then there was the thing, and then there was like,
let's do everything to Mary and like and she.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Did it so great and that's why I did it
to her. Yeah, we have to go Chattanoo.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
The I could do some like comedy. She wanted to
get that out of there, but she was having the
same conversations with her agents and her managers, and that
I was, you need to okay, you're eighteen.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
That did I'm.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
What people did then, So yeah, it was like kind
of this does bring me to my key question. When
Laura says to Perry, write your letters. What talks about this?
She says, write your letters and Brail. So Adam can't
read them because he got a sipe. Okay, he was
a professor Braill longer I was a child, and then

(34:38):
Braille for his whole life until just then recently. And
I'm sorry, I can see, but we studied Brail in
school around the sixth grade. It was a whole project.
And I read Brail in the sixth grade and I
fully cited and was taught. We learned to read Braille.
I forgot most of it. I remember the first file letters.
It was lots of people read and see that's not

(34:58):
a actor, be blind Tree Brown.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
So in other words, there was no like I wonder
how like she must have been relieved to be done.
But I wonder if there were whether it was just
like my sia or I.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Think she was I think she was now with I'm
sure with costumers, makeup, artest hairdressers.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
You know.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
I bet well, Karen, that was a really lovely moment,
you know that they had together. I think that there
probably was something more there, but with the cast as
a whole, I think.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
She was sort of separated from that by that time.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
But and it's weird. There's also I mean, there is
a sense relief. I was having a good time and
and but there was also I got to tell you
when I was done, I collapsed on the couch and almost,
oh my god, I don't have to put the wig on.
Oh I don't have to go to Seami Valley's one
hundred and ten in the shape and wear a petty

(36:01):
coat and put on the wig. So a course, there's
a sense of relief when you when you're at serious
it's a lot of work and it's long. Even if
you loved it it was the greatest show in the
entire universe and you loved everyone there, you are relieved
when you're you go up, Thank God. There is a
sense of relief for like, Okay, I don't have to
do that. For it's because it's a lot, it's a

(36:22):
hot and if you started it when you're in junior
high and there for the it's a lot.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Now.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I don't know Glynnwood did well. Okay, I don't know.
Flynn Wood was mad that she left and he was
out of a job. But clearly Lynwood's done. Okay, Malcolm
in the Middle, et cetera, et cetera, Third Rock from
the Sun, Night Court and everything everything in the universe.
As I said, he'd come to more events, but he
can't climb over the pile of Emmys and money that
is plucking the front door of his house. No, and

(36:50):
it couldn't happen to a nicer guy. And it's awesome.
But Lynwood has done. Linwood doesn't can't he can't be mad.
He's like, no, things went well now, Steve, Yeah, okay
things You know, Hollywood is toxic. So of course, in
the middle of negotiations, somebody went and called him and said,

(37:11):
Yanankee Laning and the shanty, give me out of a jap, Nina, Nina, Nina,
in the hopes of pressuring me to make a deal
because he'd be out of work. You'd be mad. Yes, Yes,
people did that, Yes, people really did that. It was
like a horrible movie, like like a Netflix thing like Feud,
like one of those movies. Yes, people really how things
like that are? Isn't that awful? And then I was
intentionally done like to to Yes, well, let's call him

(37:33):
and then he'll be mad, he'll yell at her and
she'll make up. Yes, people actually make these things happen.
And he did call me, going, what in the world
is going on? You're leaving and why am I getting
phone calls? Or what is even going on? He was
freaked out, like just like why, why is this all happening?
And we went out to lunch and talked and me
he said, what is going on? And we taught me went, well,

(37:55):
I mean if I was you, i'd go too. He said, no,
I'm an actor, duck. If I was turning nineteen and
I've been on a show for seven freaking years and
I had possibly offered, he said, I'd be off like
a shot. He said, I completely one is an actor
and a career person. Get what you're doing. He said.
It was a little jarring. It was early in the
morning when I got the call, and he said, sure,

(38:15):
I'd love it if you saw I had a job. Yeah,
just to like to piss him off. So he would
call me and he said, you know, yeah, he said,
would I love it if I had just a gig
that I was going to for the next four years? Guarantee,
Sure I would. But I'm not going to tell you
to give up the possibility of your youth and going

(38:36):
into the thing, because he said that would be crazy. No,
I totally get it, you're doing it. We absolutely stay friends.
But it was weird. And yes, they did try to
use him against me because people do that. That's that's
like a normal thing to do.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Tried to do that, and yet they didn't know what
to do with knowing.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
If you know, if any point they said, okay, we'll
make you mean again, right, I just said I'll tell somebody,
fine whatever. Maybe less it wouldn't have been fun, I mean,
but but the other thing is it would have been time.
It was this crucial moment. It was like like when
someone's just graduated college or just graduated high school. Now
what do I do?

Speaker 6 (39:17):
So okay, So I.

Speaker 5 (39:19):
Think this became a really necessary term because I think
Michael would have had to replace your flavor, whether you
were there or not. Something something had to happen and
of course, because so much of that drama comes from
the youth, from the kids, because we can you can

(39:42):
forgive that kind of horrible behavior from.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
From a child, but she's disturbed. Much harder with an
adult to be that. Although look, Harriet obviously figured it out. Humor,
you figured it out.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
You couldn't have too. Harriet's Yeah, that was really a challenge.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
I wanted to have like a relapse for one episode
where something goes wrong and I just wig out for
like a two frter and they bring me back to
Earth as I go, now eight thousand years later, going
should I stay or well, I know it was only
two years, but like, okay, in the alternate universe where
I say yes and stay, does it only go two

(40:28):
more years? Or does the chemistry because I'm there, step
on a butterfly change everything. Google book a dange it
and it goes four more years. It doesn't go two
years because it's different because I say, they.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Still would have had to have a Nancy even if
you had.

Speaker 6 (40:44):
Somebody, Well, kids needed that.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
We've got, Cassandra, We've got and then eventually Jenny. I
have joked about that being the Muppet Baby's phase of
Little House in the prairie where we have the tiny yeah, Laura,
and they were kind of like, well, we canna have
the kids do anything, because can you really can you
You can't have the adults roll in the mud. You
gotta have the kids for those kind of scenes. And

(41:08):
that made sense. But I have to say the scene
Kathan McGregor at the orphanage which she sits outside of
door with a plate of food and says I had
a little girl and that the other children didn't love
she was they were jealous.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
But no, I knew it.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I knew it wasn't true. I knew they hated her
because she was spoiled me and I did. And she
confesses to every she confesses to the last seven years.
And she confessed because I never even told my husband this.
She just borts it all out and I'll spoil you too,
I'll buy you and you'd be gone, and she later

(41:48):
I know it is one of the greatest scenes in
television history of Katherine McGregor should have been nominated for
an Emmy. I know, and it's my leaving resulted in
that scene taking place. I would like to say it
is one hundred percent worth because I could watch that scene.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
On a loop that's exact I watched that. Well, let's
get there. First of all, so Harriet has been taken
to bed, she has been in bed for two weeks, depressed,
the dog. She wants meds. She wants the drugs, and
the doc is like, let's not do that because that's
a we know what happens when the kids get the drugs.

(42:24):
But instead, maybe a better decision would be adoptive girl.
That'll fix everything, which is so proper. I don't know
why it never This is the first time ever watching
this episode where I was like, wait, what what that
is so messed top? Oh my god? Why did I

(42:47):
never realize how awful this is?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
And Doc maakeer so specific she's like, yes he gets
her old oh no, no, she get a girl, not
speak girl.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
And the dollar don't get a baby, don't get an
infant baby.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
Girl.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
I was watching that like, wait a minute, have I
been watching this for the past forty years and never
really noticed how messed up this is?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
This is.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
Okay? So nel'ss like, yeah, that's a good idea, and
then he poses it to Harriet, who's who says.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
No, camera he never don't see that too bad.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
We don't get yeah, And so Charles's brilliant idea is, hey,
let's bring because Santra, she's adopted, she's happy here with us.
Let's bring her in and have her talk with Harriet.
And then maybe that'll, you know, loosen Harriet up.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Also, how weird is that girl comes up and tell
her a weird story?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Not only that, I mean it is like crit creepy, cringey,
she's also pray cray. I mean, let's face it. Also,
pau opens her bedroom door, in her bed, in her
night well and knowing things that this is maybe inappropriate

(44:16):
or weird, especially for.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
That because isn't there to know it.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
And then Harriet is.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Not a ship out of her mind. She smells, she
hasn't bathed in over two weeks. She is pray pray
in the eyes, absolutely insane, and he's leaving his child
alone with her. It is not a good ice. Oh
my gosh, it's so freaking weird.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
It's true, it's true, it's true. And then she tells
him like, if I tell you a sad story, thank
you for what I know it's going on in that scene.
I know it was happening. I'm like what but I lost.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
Yeah, this is just one of the yet one of
those many examples where Michael, in the service of the
story he's trying to tell, will jump over any kind
of jump through, any kind of hoop that needs to
be jumped through.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
To get there.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
He does it efficiently, and the story tracks, it always tracks.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
Was brilliant with this. He did not concern himself with.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
The or mental health or maybe she maybe Harriet has
some sort of chemical and melons you've never known about before.
I mean, she could very well be bipolar.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
She could be she.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Could have been story that wasn't part of the conversation,
of course it wasn't. All I know is that she
was straight up gray gray in that scene and he
leaves his child with her, which is bananas, But it
worked because guess what happened.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
Oh and little uh Missy Francis was adorable in the scene,
absolutely adorable. And Harriet was, you know, immediately warms to
this idea and she, you know what a sweet little
girl and come sit next to me, and I mean
everything's advancing here very very quickly to get to this moment.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Yes, yeah, Now one other thing came to me as
I was watching this, which is Cassandra. I've always been like,
who does she remind me of? Who does she remind
me of? And it finally came to me as I
was watching this, and the answer is Jake Jillenhall. She
looks exactly like him. They have the same mouth, they

(46:44):
have the same eyes.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
I have.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
There's a photo for you guys to look. They are
the doppelgangers of all doppelgangers. It finally to me, and
I feel I feel relieved. Now, I okay, now I
gotta go get a picture.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
We got to find a picture of for now it's
an adult next to him. I mean, I think you're right,
but it's like most so is gonna be even weirder.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Well that, you know, because she had a very particular
mouth shape, like the way her mouth was and so
does he. And uh, I was like, that's it, that's
maybe they're related in some weird way. Who knows distant
cousins unbeknown but I like it.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
Yeah, well, he's such a wonderful actor, and she was
just so, yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
I'm thinking about you know, Melissa Francis today, I bet
that look well, I mean, we'll see it.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Wow, yep, it's a thing. It's a thing. Okay, So
what happens now? So, so what happens?

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Hips up?

Speaker 3 (47:55):
She takes a bath, nels bores hot water on her.
She yells at him. She's yelling at him, and which
is like he is relieved. She's back to her old self.
They this scene movie go lovely, this bathtub scene where
they're genuinely laughing with each other and genuinely love each other.
It's so sweet. Yeah, it's really really nice. Okay, So

(48:18):
then they go to the orphanage bump bump. Should we
take a break and then we'll get back to the work.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
I think we should.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Okay, folks, we'll be back with the Devil and Mariamcarnate.
We'll be right back.

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Speaker 3 (49:35):
All right, we're back. So now we're in the orphanage
and they're looking at lots of little girls. No one
is right for Harriet because they're not.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
This is totally normal that these people are coming in
to replace their ties. They didn't didn't bother the people
at the orphan It's like, why are you doing this now?

Speaker 3 (49:53):
I'm literally was like, oh, this is like going to
the SPCA to pick out a job, That's what it.
It so feels like that. It's so wild, and honestly,
maybe that is what it was back then, but it
is wild.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Okay, it's the eighteen hundreds. It was like that back then.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
Here's do you remember that time?

Speaker 1 (50:15):
I mean, how do we know that my my father
was in an orphanage in the very early suries. She
was born nine and he was in the the Salvation
Army Foundling's home and they did they took those kids around.
People came over and it was like hare's like scruff
of the neck, hair's one and yeah, and that's why
when he got to the Armgremson house, he's like, please

(50:38):
not me. I don't want to go back. And you know,
got lucky.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
I just can One can only imagine the psychological scarring
that could be happening dealing with and yet from an
expedient standpoint, from just having people have a place, yeah, yeah,
where they there was the pressure of that be huge,
but wow, what a tough circumstance to go through as

(51:04):
a kid.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
It was just some things, the depression. They really needed
to get these kids place because many of them were orphans.
Just their families were like to port it. It was
all horrible and so it was awful, but it was
an absolute horror show. And my father was completely terrible.
But that's what they were doing. And in the eighteen
seventies at time, you remember there was like a big
recession in the eighties of times were hard then, So yeah,

(51:25):
there would be orphans, would be like here have a KNT.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
I just read something about the Irish immigrants. Is that Uh,
there were like tens of It was something like two
hundred thousand Irish children were put on trains and shipped
out to the Midwest, oh to be a dot, to
be taken by families, and they and most of the

(51:50):
families just needed farm hands. Like they didn't want to
raise it. They needed the labor. And it's just like
this terrible history and it was right around this time
period all that was going on.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Oh yeah, it was not like they weren't thinking about
the psychological impact on the kids, and it was this
appropriate home for them. It's like you got food here,
take one.

Speaker 5 (52:10):
That's that's not a take we've seen on Little House before,
and we certainly have had we have certainly seen the
moments in episodes where.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
Children are necessary on the farm, and that was certainly.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
A reality, but I've never we've never put it in
the terms the show never put it in the terms
that you've just expressed it with Albert.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Albert ran away from the orphanage and lived on the
street under the stairs rather than stay at the orance
because it was so terrible. And then there were the guy,
the guy who was his real father who wanted him
farm wonderful. Yeah, No, Albert's life was completely terrible until
he met the Ingles.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Because yeah, and if we go to our stir Anne
of Green Gables, I mean, that was the whole premise
of her being adopted in the first place, was that
they wanted a boy to be a farm hand for them, and.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
They got and they were really mad that they got
and yeah, it was the whole thing the books. It's
kind of horrible. It's like, you're not suffsed to be.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
We didn't ask for you.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
They messed up our order, they got and Gables.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
To mess up our order, right, yeah, yeah, okay, so
they're gonna leave her. It's very disappointed until crash bang
we hear fearal wild animals who by the way, I
never picked on this, picked up on this before too,
But they said she's been there for the four weeks

(53:38):
that she's been here, it's been horrible, horrible, And I
was like, for only four weeks, like we know nothing
about nothing has ever been said about her actual back history, right, like, oh,
it comes out in the second comes out a lie,
but it's a lie, it's not the truth. So we
know nothing about Nancy. The viewers as well as the

(54:00):
people on the show, like we know, we never know
what Nancy's actual background.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
It comes out in part two. It comes out in
part but she.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Lies about it. In Part two, she lies about it,
but later all right, all right, I jumped the guy
Orphan and he's like, no, that's not okay, I jumped
the gun. And we will find out next week with Nelly. Okay, okay, okay,
I forgot here we go. This is why we're recapping people.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
It's a thing. It's a thing.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
So of course she's biting people. She's punching people, and
Harriet goes, that's the one.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
I love, the sort of the Keystone Cops doors, they
chase her around. I'm amazed at how agile both made. Actually,
maybe I'm surprised how agile Richard was. But Catherine was
running around in this thing. I don't think they doubled
her in that. I mean, I feel like that was her.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
She was an Arthur Murray dance in director, as was
Kevin Hagen. Apparently it was a popular drop for like
starting doctorscoping the dancing drug, the dance instructors.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
So yeah, and she could move.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
They could both move like when they need.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
You could tell Katherin McGregor was a dancer by the
way she she holds her hands in her upper body.
She's very dancing, yes, yes, but the way that she moved,
even just her fingers in her hands, it's that's a
dancers stance for sure. Okay, So right, I mean the

(55:30):
funny line with Mills going, I need that little girl,
girl London.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I'm trying to catch a little.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
You guys, it's comedy with a k. Can't be mad,
it's just but it's.

Speaker 6 (55:49):
Something that's sort of a serious moment. Michael is able
to bring mirth to it. And I love the sort
of tag team way, so you know something, Carrie gets it,
then rich passes, Richard gets it, Harriet passes, and it's
like they're just on this chase to find this little girl.
At the end in the alley, he drops a box

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on her like you dropt like.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
A yes, like a rat, a feral cat. Yeah okay,
But then they're back in the orphanage and the head
of the orphanage is like, you guys, cannot take her
she does not want to go. I can't force this
little which is the only same thing anyone has said
about this entire adoption process.

Speaker 6 (56:34):
Today time, I'm sorry, do we hear her say that
she does? I'm sorry? Do we hear her say she.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Doesn't want to be he says she does not want
to be adopted. I'm not forcing her to go with
you guys, And even the is it a nurse is
an assistant.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Is also like.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
She's bananas, Like you guys don't want to take her
by the way that woman, I was like, how do
I know her from? She was in the movie Nuts
with Barbara streisand she plays she's just has one scene,
but she's brilliant, and I was like, that's her. I
love the movie Nuts. I think it's a brilliant movie. Anyway,
fun fact I diverted. But here we go.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
So Psycho walks herself on the room.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
She Psycho locks. That's calling her from.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Now on, psychopath baby, Psycho.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Locks in the room, and we have, as Allison said before,
the most I mean, I I always talk about how
Katherin McGregor watching her as like always watching a master
class an actors monologue alone in this Hallway is like
masterclass of master class. She's so brilliant. And also what

(57:48):
you were saying, Alison, what was written of like I'm
going to tell you something I've never told anyone, even
my husband and admits why Nelly was so terrible and
she was.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Awful cells and I can do it, you care and
I can awful. You can join the family. And it's
so brilliant because I mean, people should be doing that
monologue and acting classes.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
I know, but I also like, this is clearly someone
who shouldn't be a parent, Like this is.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Just all long, but what you all want all the
candy wanten big great big dolls from Paris.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Lays it on. It's so awful. But anyway, that lull
Psycho out of the door and the mother.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
She comes out of that door and her face after
that whole thing, she's she's cataloged, didn't get in dolls
from candy, her face and just mother. I mean, holy good,
this girl is brilliant. I mean that was like people like, oh,
there can only be one I like NELI I do
it like Nancy, And how did you feel? How can

(59:00):
I not love?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
This Girl's amazing?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Oh my god, it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Okay, So now we're back home and and they come in.
Poor Willie, let's just preface this. They walk.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
He's inventing Peenie presh sandwich in the kitchen when we arrived,
all the food and is smashing it. Yes, I just
want to.

Speaker 6 (59:25):
Say before you get into the scene, what a transformation
Jonathan went through from one season to the next. What
did they grow eight inches during the hiatus?

Speaker 5 (59:37):
And it's like, hit hard, incredible ass he's a different kid.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Yes, actually I was. I was like that wish Yes,
the high falsetto voice. He had the very false ole boy.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
I was watching this with Margaret, who has not seen
any of the episodes leading up to this. I mean
she's seen the beginning episodes, but she hasn't seen any
so she was like, who's that, who's that? And then
when he came when that scene happened, she went, that's Willy.
She could not believe it anyway, So Willy comes in.
They're like, yes, William, William. They come in. They're like,

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guess what, here's your news, sister, And he's like, we
finally got rid of Nelly and now you're bringing another one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
We just covered her and you brought in another one,
not you brought.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I do feel bad for Willy because he's he's not wrong,
like he's finally free. And now they bring them a terror.
They bring in an absolute terror.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
And Jonathan is so cute here. He's grown up. And
now we're seeing shades of the guy we saw on
Seam Valley, right, so you can see whoa look at
this jaw. Look at this young guy. Little Willy with
the squeaky voices grown up to be a looker and
is clearly growing this very handsome and they should up
and seen me and everybody fainted and hello, see there
you go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Yeah, puberty is a wild, wild wild thing. Okay, no kidding,
my god. Okay. So then we're bringing Nancy to school.
She's got the wig.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
I just want to say, it is the wig? And
is my wig? They's like they took the wig off
my dead, lifeless bot.

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
They didn't make a.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
New wig for her. That is crazy because your wig
should be in the Smithsonian right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Where is that Yes, where is that wig?

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
I wonder what happened to that wig?

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
I'm thinking Larry Tremaine's family hashit because he co designed
it with Ziggie, Geico the wig Maker, and so Larca.
I think like Larry's kids got it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
I think I'm not joking when I say that wig
needs to be in the Smithsonian.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Iconic, iconic of all that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Anybody knows where it is. So I've had a couple
of people. I met this woman, she's a hair person,
she's like a week collector, and she was kind of
going on a big search for it, like colling around.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
I wonder where anyone knows or has any clues or
wants to salute around. Please please, it's it's.

Speaker 6 (01:02:14):
Such a classic and I think, you know, it's interesting
it It should be in a museum. Should and it
should be in the Hollywood Museum. It should be I
mean it should be.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
My house, because I would say for it if really
I'm not going to name the price, but if you
do actually have it, and I'll know if it's the
real one or not, I will know because I think
I was close enough to it every day, I would
I would fork over a reasonable some money for that sucker.
If anybody's got you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Know, in New York there's the Museum of Moving Image,
and they have like costumes and from movies and television,
and like Fate. They have all the Jim Henson muppets
there they have. They have the spinning Head from the
Exorcist there they have. I mean, they have all these iconic,
iconic are pieces from from classic TV and movies, and

(01:03:07):
that book should be there. Maybe I'll write them a letter.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
And I'm budding with the Hollywood mugym and always do
an events there with Danell Dad again and everything. So
I think would a nice shelf to put it right there.
We could put it right there. And I wait, I
go every day. I couldn't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
We're in school. Very funny entrance to the school where
she does not You see Harriet trying to pull her
in there, and she just she's so shy, classic, so good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Laura's face.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
She shocked because she looks just like Nelly. Yes, and
then the first bit of oh no, she's the devil happens,
which is she goes outside Cassandra's with her and Nancy says,
who is that you're sitting next to? And she said, oh, Albert,
my brother. She said, well, I'm sitting there now. Cassandra's like, no,

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you're not. She's like, yes, i am and turns total
evil on her, threatens her immediately, and Cassandra holds tight
and then Nancy takes mud and puts it all over
her dress, rips the sleever address, and then pretends as
if Cassandra is attacking her, to which Harriet and Laura

(01:04:24):
run out watch this, and she's crying and screaming she
hates me, she attacked me. And that's when we're like, oh,
this girl is maybe ten times worse than.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
And that was very patting McCormick bats. She stuff, that
was very patty mccormickbats. I wonder. I mean, I was
raised on it, so I would presume she also had.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
Somewhat rubbed off on you too. But just a funny bookhaps.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Right, But she to give me for best get a kissel,
But I think she did it. And then again, what
is the motivation? What is your motivation? She wants to
sit next to cute Albert because there's a cute boy,
because thirsty girls of Walnut Grove, all the women going
back to tiny Laura Nellie a boy. There's a boy

(01:05:14):
we must fight over the book. She fits right in,
She fits right in with all these crazy women and
Walna Grove, every time a boy shows up.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Boom that has been off, thirsty girls of Walnut Grove,
all the girls.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
That meet more in the All about a crush on
a boy, Johnny Johnson, Jason all that here we freaking
go again. Oh I want to sit next to Albert Boom.
She's killing people.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
Yes, we've all you know, we all grew up feeling
like we're sort of The in culturation is that young
girls are sort of shy and demure and.

Speaker 6 (01:05:46):
Not really you know, it's the guys who are the
aggressive ones. Not in the world of Little House, it's
really aggressive young women.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Uh huh, it's really and.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
Long dresses and they're aggressive. It's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
Uh so then I don't know right. So then the
next messed up thing happens, which is Laura pulls Cassandra
aside and it's like yes, because Cassandra's like, I didn't
do this, she's accusing me, this is this is not
what happened. And Harriet of course goes right into old

(01:06:25):
school Harriet modive, like your child is horrible and how
dare you? And Laura takes Cassandra aside and it's like
you're telling the truth, aren't you? And she's like yes,
And Laura's then is like, hey, do me do me
a favor. Just admit you're wrong, because it'll help me
out because then Nancy will maybe trust me more and

(01:06:47):
I'll be able to get to her.

Speaker 6 (01:06:50):
Get it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
It's so messed up, y'all. I also think Laura is
not a good teacher. There's so many examples of her
being like, oh, girl, that's not that is not.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
She's okay, she's making a girl who didn't do anything
wrong lines thatd you do it, which is like that up.
But then she's going, I need you, a small child,
to help me, a grown person, navigate what I'm doing.
You now responsible. I am a grown person, the teacher,
But could you do this completely crazy thing that is
psychologically probably damaging to you to help me, the adult,

(01:07:25):
navigate what we know that's not really a good thing
to be doing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Is bad?

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
Well Melissa, well Lois, it has nothing to do with Melissa. Again,
this is the service of the story. But I just
don't know if I quite get that strategy, the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Psychology of it, right, it's weird. The idea is like, well,
we'll make nice with the poor girls right in the
head and we'll just put this aside and say yeah, yeah, fine,
I did it whatever, and then oh wow, so you know,
we believe you don't hate you, and maybe maybe she'll
feel secure. But the other problem is poor Cassandra doesn't
tell the whole story. She just says she did. If

(01:08:02):
she said, look, she said she wanted to sit next
to Albert, it's all about Laura would have gone, oh
that's sitting again.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Tell her side of the story first on Jerry. Okay,
so now because Thattra doesn't stand in the corner because
Harriet makes her and uh, that can.

Speaker 6 (01:08:29):
Be scarring to all stand up, I stand in the corner.
Like now she's going to be ridiculed by her classmates.
She's like, all raw, I know it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Only so now we're back home and the prairie, at
the little house on the prairie and they're all sitting
around the table Kady Lester. Let's oh we we haven't
even mentioned Kady Lester in this episode, which is and
did you almost think.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
That she was leaving when she's doing the phone call,
I'm leaving too. I couldn't get my certificate. And then
it's like no, I thought, oh my god, this is crazy.
Everyone's just like my b and then no, no, come back,
come back, come work at the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
And you know, it made me like they I lost
my job with the blind children because I need a
certain what is it, certificate or degree?

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
State took it over and demanded she has certain credentials
so she doesn't have.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
So I'm out of a job. And Mo's like, don't worry.
You don't have to be a teacher anymore. You can
wait tables with me like that and not the ideal,
but I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
It's not but I'm going to go there. They said,
she okay, well we're now, we're the state. And even
though you've been teaching here the entire time without incident
and taught and you taught in another school before, that's
why they took you. That you've been teaching actually all
your life is clearly the case. We're going to suddenly
demand that you have the certificate. And she said she

(01:09:52):
neither had the time the money to go back to school.
They were trying to unload her, and guys, it was
the eighteen hundredths. I think maybe if it was a
white teacher that been teaching there her entire freaking life
at multiple blind schools successfully. That might not have come down.

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
They might have said, well, you know, the credentials, but
we'll work it out. But they were like, oh, black lady,
oh gosh, you know you need the souch Affrica. It's
eighteen hundreds. There is absolutely it would have been an.

Speaker 5 (01:10:22):
Element that if we're tracking where this was, I mean,
Laura was born in eighteen sixty seven, eighteen seventy seven,
so it's eighteen sixty five.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
Basically the Civil War hasn't just ended. Yeah, basically, yeah,
and a very dicey time for Hester Sue.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Well, totally wisdom of Solomon Toaldbert. His family were slaves
and had been freed. His family had been Hester Sue
her age, and if you go eighteen seventy four, eighteens,
oh wow, I know she might have been born into slavery.
Certainly her parents would have been. It's like, yikes, So yes,
I don't know that in that era that the people
when the state took it over didn't say, oh gosh,

(01:11:07):
you know you need a certificate.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Totally. Just because I love Katy Lester, I think she's
a genius. I've always loved Hester Sue. She's one of
my favorites. But I've always been in I've always wanted
to know what hester Seue's backstory was for exactly the
reasons we're just talking about, Like what was her history?
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
Well, in the in the Christmas episode, we see that
she is the daughter of she's a child of slaves.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Yes, absolutely, right, there you go, but.

Speaker 6 (01:11:36):
That would have been.

Speaker 5 (01:11:39):
Well, of course slavery was going on and going on
for a long long time before the Civil War, so yes,
all that can.

Speaker 6 (01:11:45):
Track, yeah, all that control.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Yeah, her story always intrigued me. Anyway, So we're at
the table. Hester Sue is also at the family table
that Cassandra's talking about Nancy and how evil she is,
and then they do they do her prayer before that.

Speaker 6 (01:12:01):
I love the prayer.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
The prayer Cassandra does. What's the actual line that she
says that makes paw, actually.

Speaker 6 (01:12:11):
You know something about Well, it's about God will do
you'll do what you need to do.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
Basically essentially is what she says, if you know, help
her be better and if she doesn't, you'll know what
to do.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
Yeah, I mean it's something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:27):
And Karen's Karen's choice of how she looked back at
him in that moment is a wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Because she wants to laugh too, and she knows she
trying to be nice.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
Yeah, but her look to him is and I think,
you know what I love about all this is knowing
how challenging that dynamic was between them. These scenes always
play so beautifully and yeah, I mean, it's just this
was not an easy We've talked about this before. It

(01:13:04):
was not an easy relationship.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
And yet they delivered consistently, always wonderful, that good.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Now to chemistry, whether they liked it or not, they
chemistry network.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
I have to tell you, I did enjoy normalcy, the
fact that I'm not even there, and how much time
they spent at the dinner table talking about me. Oh
my god, she's took like a really Nelly, No, she's
worse than Nelly Nelly. And I'm like, yes, yes, I'm
not even.

Speaker 6 (01:13:33):
There, and I your shadow is cast long over.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
This very much. It's like over the past fifty years,
it has also out shout out to it's clearly nineteen
eighty one because Ma has some layers in her hair
and Marry's hair is bananas. Just her hair journey is insane, insane.
Her hair journey. Also, Ma has beautiful manicure, long the nails,

(01:14:02):
which is always something I'm going to see, and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Because everybody is trying to move on to their next career.
Actually I'm doing this movie, I change my hair. I
gotta go do a thing I did.

Speaker 6 (01:14:15):
Did women have nets in their hair at that point?

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Because I know she has a hardcore net that you
can absolutely see around her bun and they didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
They were next to what was it snooths and things
to hold They were all sorts of weird stuff to
hold their hair in place then, so we'd all give
her the net. I had hairpins to get popping up.
I remember I.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Asked Karen about the nails at one point and I
was like, Karen, you had the long nails too, like
what's up with that? And she just went I wanted
to look pretty and I was like, god done. I mean,
her whole thing was like we went through seven eight
years of like looking like not nice and it was

(01:14:57):
no of course, but you know, not glamorous in any way,
shape or form.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
So it was time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Yeah, And by that time, people were on the show
a really long time. And I think it's exactly what
he said. Element of like I've been here for eight
years now, and please give me the nails, Like, just
let me have the nails already, and a little feathering
in my hair.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Look what people were wearing makeup and clothes on other shows,
I mean Charlie's Angels, say, look what was going on
in the seventies with all the high glamorous, sexy girl stuff.
And then we were going into the eighties where everyone
was just in a bikini and in some sex comedy bories.
Women in TV and film were in bikinis and hot
camps and tight pinches. And then it was the era

(01:15:40):
of there.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
Still watching us and not all of that, which is
we I think that's really you know, that's really the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
But yeah, the pressure then to look a certain way,
of course, oh my god, rid kill us. So all
of the women felt very pressure to conform to the
late seventies early eighties thing that was going on, and
so it delighted with our eighteen seventies job.

Speaker 5 (01:16:07):
We were having what what what was the sociology like
that where women became because coming out of the seventies,
it was the sort of granola very and then all
of a sudden, it's.

Speaker 6 (01:16:19):
Like disco baby boom disco.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Disco, baby disco.

Speaker 6 (01:16:26):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:26):
And then in the eighties it was a total rejection
of like the hippie hippies of the sixties, the crunchy
granola of the seventies. It went polar opposite. And then
it was you know, the the Reagan greed is good, No,
that's good, was about big and more and more. I
mean it was the polar opposite of the Carter administration, right,

(01:16:50):
like total polar that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
So it was just and even if my punk era
we went from black clothes and safety visits to daiglu.
Everything was hot and daglo and futuristic and touch the
plastic and yeah, that's you know, became that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
I remember being in the eighties going I hate this,
I hate this, I do not belong here, I.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Never I love the uncomfortable doing here is about the eighties,
nelliels Nelly also sets fire to the eighties, and it's
all hence my fink.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
There's all this nostalgia now for the nineties, and I
will give it to them, which were off.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
That's weirdies five minutes ago. What do we even do?

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
I know? Anyway, we move on. So now we're back
in school, and uh, Albert has a little love interest,
which is my Laura Harden playing Yeah in this one, Linda,
she's so lovely. Oh my goodness, she's just so pretty,

(01:17:55):
so naturally beautiful. Anyway, they're good. They're doing some hardcore
flirty flirt in this deniable that they like each other.

Speaker 6 (01:18:06):
So she can practice her singing. And by the way,
she is a wonderful singer.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
I did a show with her years afterwards to spend
an evening and Malaura was wonderful.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Yeah, she can sing. She's a great thing.

Speaker 6 (01:18:21):
She can, no question.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
So so Belinda's Belinda. Belinda is gonna be practicing.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
To the pageant part for this pageant, you know how.

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
And Nancy is like, well, I'm auditioning too, and then
good luck.

Speaker 6 (01:18:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Also Nancy pulls the Nelly where she's like, hey, el
they want to come over. We have pie?

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
We have.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
You talking about I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Anyway, and it ends on a really weird wow, and
which is you know, this girl is about to blow
up everybody's life.

Speaker 6 (01:19:06):
That she does there ce see and the turn to
evil is just really a wonderful, wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Turn that Yes, yes, I loved it so much. I
was like, yes, that's my girl. And then.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
D d.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Thirsty girls. How much older than her? Is this belinda
beautiful teenage girl a couple of years is a big
teenage boys. His voice is changed they are teenagers or
like David, she's still a little girl. She's like, hey,
he's gonna pump off girlfriend.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
That's the trend on the prairie. I wonder how I
wonder how old Nancy was supposed to be on the show,
like a.

Speaker 6 (01:19:50):
Level all the way it was nine or ten. Yes,
that's the way they are set it up. Was go
for a nine or ten year old girl.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
I don't know what she can do.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
Driving board.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
She's a grown up.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Yeah, well that's the episode. There are there are so
many problems happening in this episode that are also fantastic.
It makes for a great show. But my god, the
next one it gets super weird, super evil the next one.
I look forward to revisiting part two for next week.

Speaker 6 (01:20:28):
I mean, I you know, Michael really was this was
a zone that he really liked to play in as
a writer.

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Well, bravo to him because he said goodbye to his
like two leading characters, female characters, two of the important
who are two of the most important characters ever on
the show, and their husbands, who we also were very
attached to as characters. They're out and the new girl

(01:20:59):
is in, and it was so seamlessly done. Like really,
I had never thought though before you guys, until you
said it, that the audience didn't know that Mary wasn't
coming back after this. This was a total shock. Any well, the.

Speaker 6 (01:21:14):
Fact that she wasn't in the opening title told you that.
I mean I had never noticed that. I did to
Carrie Falling down the Hill. I mean I just had before.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
You know, I skipped the opening credit, so I didn't
even clock that.

Speaker 6 (01:21:29):
Oh my god, you would have well go back and
check it. I mean, it's really it's a big change.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Yeah, huge. Any any final remembrances or thoughts about this one,
you guys, Dean, you were there, how was I.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
You know, look, she was, she greeted, she was, she
was terrific, and her mother was terrific too. I remember,
you know, I just remember her that she was just
really real, And I mean I felt like they were

(01:22:07):
pretty buttoned up family that way, you know, I didn't
it didn't feel like there was a Yes, there was
a stage mother, that there's always a stage mother there.

Speaker 6 (01:22:16):
You can't do this without that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:18):
But yeah, but she wasn't she She was very low
key about it, and Allison was very low key and
confident about what she was doing. It was you know, smart, Yeah, yes, absolutely,
So you know, I think everyone felt like, yeah, we're
just rolling on here.

Speaker 6 (01:22:38):
I think, is what because it's just all everything fell
into place so easily. There was no big angst on this.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
I wonder what the connection was like with Catherine and
Richard Bull with with Nancy. I mean, I'm calling her well.

Speaker 6 (01:22:54):
I think that she certainly gave them a hell of
a lot to play.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Loved her, and I'm sure they were very relieved.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
I think they were weird enought that I wasn't there clearly,
But I think has she been had she been like
a horrid little child actor or mean, or had she
not been smart as all with that kid, they would
have been like, oh man, I mean she's okay, but
she shows up, she's brilliant, she's totally getting it. Her
mom is chill, and she's smarter. They probably went well,

(01:23:26):
thank god, Okay, we say, at least it's this girl,
thank Evans.

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
Yeah, huge relief oh boy. Okay, Well we'll be back
next week with Bart two. I cannot wait. You guys,
If you haven't subscribed to our Patreon, we're gonna be
talking way more. You're missing out on so many great
conversations that we have. Am I right? We talk about
things on Patreon that we really can't talk about on
the podcast to the protect the general masses. So if

(01:23:55):
you want more, come and join us on Patreon and
also join us in our socials, Little House Podcast, our website,
littlehasfifty podcast dot com. And it's that time, Bob, get
the wig. We'll see you next week. Let's fly next week.
Well me, still miss you, Still miss you,

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