David Adair Saturday November 29th 2025

Topic: Engineering and Space Science

Often hailed as “the original rocket man,” David Adair is an American rocket scientist, inventor, and expert in space technology. He is renowned for his groundbreaking work in advanced propulsion systems and space technology spinoff applications for industry and commercial use. At just 11 years old, Adair built his first rocket, a project that ignited a lifelong passion for science and innovation.By the age of 17, his talent earned him “The Most Outstanding in the Field of Engineering Services” award from the U.S. Air Force. His remarkable achievements drew the attention of prominent figures, including Air Force General Curtis LeMay, who facilitated Adair’s work on an electromagnetic fusion containment rocket.Adair’s career spans decades, during which he has worked on revolutionary space technologies and explored sustainable energy solutions. His company, Intersect Inc., focuses on advancing research in space technology and environmental sustainability. Adair is also known for his firsthand testimony on extraterrestrial technology and experiences at Area 51, contributing to his reputation as an authoritative voice on UFOs and the mysteries of the cosmos.Adair frequently appears on TV shows and podcasts, including Cosmic Disclosure, where he shares insights into UFOs, extraterrestrial technology, and remarkable encounters at Groom Lake in Nevada.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Crown.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Good morning or evening, whatever the case may be. From
the Ozark Foothills of northeast Arkansas. I'm Carl Richardson and
this is midnight freakingcy Radio our guest. This evening is
often held as the original Rocketman. David Adayer is an
American rocket scientist, inventor, and expert in space technology. Is
renowned for groundbreaking work in advanced propulsion systems and space

(00:58):
technology spinoff applications for industry and commercial use. At the
age of eleven, Adair built his first rocket, a project
that ignited a lifelong passion for science and innovation. By
the age of seventeen, his talent earned him the most
Outstanding in the Field of Engineering Services Award from the
US Army Air Force. His remarkable achievements drew the attention

(01:21):
of prominent figures, including Air Force General Curtis LeMay, who
facilitated Adair's work on an electronic fusion containment rocket. Adair's
careers spanned decades, during which he has worked on revolutionary
space technologies and explored substantial energy solution. His company, Intersect, Inc.

(01:41):
Focused on advanced research in space technology and environmental sustainability.
Adair is also known for his first hand testimony on
extraterrestrial technology and experiences at Area fifty one, contributing to
his reputation for an authoritative voice on UFO and the
mysteries of the Cosmos. Adair frequently appears on TV shows

(02:04):
and podcasts, including Cosmic Disclosure, where he shares insights in
the UFO, extraterrestrial technology and remarkable encounters at Groom Lake, Nevada.
Good even I must stay there and welcome to Midnight
Frequency Radio.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Well, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Your career spans a broad area of time frame.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Does it is? One grabs people's attention when I am
talking about things and I'll make firsthand reference to something.
And I have being counters out there that are keeping
track of my age and they said, wait a minute,
you were there when that happened. A yeah, well how

(02:46):
old were you? Twelve? Yes? I was. I started off
a really young age. I got paid professionally for it,
and that so when I have when I say I've
done something with someone, you would probably say, well, that

(03:07):
person's dead now. I'm seventy one. But I started back
boy when, like I said, when I was twelve. So
I ran quite a streak of time. Like a good example.
I guess one of my best friends that I hung

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out with a lot when I was growing up. He
had a mother and her name was Viola Armstrong, and
she had a son named Neil. So I grew up
with the Neil Armstrong family. And I've got a book
laying in my living room in there that was a

(03:50):
gift from Paola Armstrong on my eighteenth graduation date for
graduating out of high school. So if I have first
hand reference with Neil, it's because I was very first.
I was very young, and I grew up with that crowd.

(04:12):
And you tell me the stories. I can tell you
a lot of them about Neil, but I can't talk
about him because I promised his mother that I wouldn't
tell on him. But there was a lot of interesting
things that happened. I remember the day he got picked

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be the first man on the moon. He came down
into the basement and yelling I got it, and Viola
started with her, and she drops a fruit jar of
blackberries on her right big toe and breaks it, and
so I had to take her to the doctor and
get it band it up. And she said, Neil, when

(04:58):
you've gotten news to announce I can't. Don't be quite
so enthusiastic. But that's the way it was with that household,
very strict. They were Germans immigrants and they armstrongs, and
they came from from the mainland of Germany to America

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and they moved into a town called Wappa Canetta, Ohio,
which was about an hour drive by car from my
house to theirs, and I ended up spending a lot
of time over there. That's why I have an awkward moment.
I hate this. When it happens, and it always happens.

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You go out to dinner with a bunch of people,
people start talking, they start reminiscing, and they start thinking
about the Lunar Lander and all that house. Oh boy,
it's gonna happen, and somebody will start the question around
the table, where were you when Neil was walking on
the moon. Well, when it's finally my turn, I have

(06:06):
two choices. One is a I lie and just tell
everybody while I was at home watching it on TV.
Or B tell the truth, which is a little bit
harder to do because I tell you where I was.
It was B Neil was when Neil was sleeping on

(06:26):
the moon. I was sleeping in his childhood bed and
up a Canet, Ohio home of Stephen and Biela Armstrong.
And you sit there and you say something like that,
and you look at everybody's faces, like, sorry about that.
That's perfect.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Always forget to turn something off.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Hey, that's perfect. Yeah they sound like that, or where
they don't believe you, or yeah they Then they started
asking a gazillion question and I had to answer them all.
But that's the story of my life. I wish I
had a rooster with me when they asked that. That

(07:12):
would have been a good reply.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Okay, I'm sure mister Armstrong was a mentor of yours.
Do you have others that you picked up things from?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Oh? Lord? Yeah. One of the really good friends was
a guy named Chuck Yaeger now Chuck Yeager. In October
of nineteen forty seven. He was the first human being
to break the sound barrier. And he was born in Bluefield,
West Virginia, or an, excuse me, Princeton with West Virginia.
And we always kid each other when we look at

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each other. He said, yes, we got something in common.
I said, what's that, Chuck, And he goes, we're both
in the West Virginia Hall of Fame, and then as
a third person, a guy named Homer Hickman. He was
in a movie called October Sky and we were all
born within a three mile radius of each other. And
Old Chuck asked me, He said, David, what do you
think was going on back then? I said, I don't know.

(08:02):
Something in the water maybe, but we, all three of
us have had such a life. They seem to think
mine did a little bit more, but I don't know
about that. I guess the rocket that I built was different. See,
there's only two types of rockets in the world today,

(08:25):
liquid fuel or solid propellant. That's it. There's nothing else.
But in June twentieth, nineteen seventy one, I flew a
rocket in a missile out of White Sands Proving Grounds.
That's what we called it back then. And that thing

(08:48):
was an electromagnetic fusion containment engine and it was fast.
Shall God, you had to see this thing to believe it.
One hundred and thirty miles every three point two seconds.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh my lord, I left it. That's wild.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, it cracks me up. I'll be sitting at dinner
with people and they said, did you hear We're at
mock ten. And then somebody looked at me and said, David,
while I was here, a rocket flying that in nineteen
seventy one mocked thirty seven. Oh and wow, and the

(09:26):
people's mouths hanging open about whoops, that was a little
bit more than they could handle. But yeah, it was
really fast. It's well, the reason it's so fast is
if not designed to really be launched on Earth. It's
designed to be launched in a place like L five

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L two. That's where gravitational tides are equal between the
Moon and the Earth, so you can light out of
there and not feel such a gravitational tug on body.
If you try to ride this rocket on Earth, bad news.

(10:08):
You'd just be basically soup. It would just tear you
to pieces. But that's why I'm saying it's really ahead
of its time. It really is, y'all. It's I can't
even launch it in the Earth's atmosphere. You have to
get it constructed in a gravity neutral position like yel five.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
What was the way down that rocket?

Speaker 3 (10:34):
It weighed almost three tons And people said, wait a minute,
how fast that they take off? Well, let me put
it this way, have you ever seen a bullet leave
of rifle barrel. That's what it's like trying to watch
my rocket leave. It's just a tremendous explosion, boom, and

(10:57):
then the pad is not there anymore, and the rockets gone.
When it first we first launched this thing, did a
test run under the white sands. I was at the
end of the pad, Pad sixteen, and that thing took off,

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and our emperors tanding there, going, oh boy, that thing
really lit out of here. So the telephone rang, and
it's an all red phone on the table in the
launch control room, and that's nor RAD on the other
line of the red phone. And NORRAD is North American

(11:44):
Defense Air Defense System. It's what we track all unknown
flying above America. Yeah, you can hear the man come
on the telephone. You can hear him through the receiver.
And then said, what are you people doing over there?

(12:04):
We had this young guy. He brought in his rocket
and he launched it. It blew up out here. No
it didn't. What do you mean he didn't. We're tracking it.
It's that fifty two thousand feet and still getting it.
You's know where it's going. We do, And yeah, we

(12:27):
thought it was. It just blowed up. It's such an explosion.
We didn't see anything leave. Well, like I said, it's
that ten miles altitude and still climbing and it's moving
at mark thirty seven. No wonder he thought it blew up.
You couldn't see it. And so that, as they say

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in things, my life was never the same after that.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I bet it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
They they were all over me.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Would you give the listeners an idea of how the
engines worked on that craft?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah. The reason they're having such a hard time with
it today they can't get the field to close, and
that's because they only got half the design. I'm trying
to explain that to some a couple of women who
were the editors of the trade magazine Fusion Containment, and

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she said, what do you mean when we only got
half the design? Well, see, you're using a tutorial compressor
called a Tokmac out of the nuclear chambers, and you're
trying to turn that into a combustion chamber, and it's
not going to work because you don't have a field

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to close. You only got a one static pulse engine
burning out there. So the only way that you want
to get to where you can close it, you need
two tutorial tokeomax looking at each other. The best way
to describe it. It looks like two octopuses having sex

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with their tentacle vall intertwined. That's the plasma charge. And
if you could look at this thing and look through
all the arms, you'll see something that looks familiar. It's
the figure eight turned sideways. What is the figure eight
and math whens turned sideways? Infinity exactly, So it puts

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itself into an infinity loop. And then you get you
have to fire this thing called a proton being. It
goes down through the center of it and if it
will come out, one end of it will be an orifice.
And that's called specific impulse. That's the heart and soul

(15:03):
of the rocket engine. And with this specific impulse, I'm
able to expand it and contract it, so you can
have a little bit of a throggling. But really it's
moving so fast. It's it's really got two speeds. Somebody

(15:24):
asked me, well, what's the speeds on it? I said,
offs and wide open. And and if you don't get
it contained and keep it within your boundaries, then you've
got all was that spaceballs, you got ludicrous speed. If

(15:44):
so fast, it's just it's just ridiculous. And so that's ah,
that's a very simplified version of how the engines work
and do it. And it uses the basic fuel for

(16:04):
that model is de tyrium, which is a very plentiful
element that we have on Earth. So uh, it's not
like it's not like uranium or plutonium. De tarium is
very plentiful and so it makes uh an excellent engine

(16:29):
that you should be using to drive things out in space.
Which I don't know why they well, I do that.
They don't want to disturb status quo. They want to
keep it exactly in a chemical rocket base because companies
like Morton, pay Call and and DuPont they want to

(16:53):
keep the formulas that way so they can sell a
lot of fuel. But it's you know, it's there's if
you think about it, there's gotta be more than just
two rocket engines available. It's a long Range Planning Division
in Huntsville, Alabama of NASA. There are seventy three rocket

(17:15):
engines on board over there, so there's plenty of things
to pick from. But nobody wants to go down a
different route because the people who are supplying all the
fuels they like it just the way it is. It'd
be like you on and uh constad the wagon company

(17:38):
and I walk in and I ask, hey, you guys
don't want a steam engine? Is they're gonna stirp me
out of there? So yes, it's the same thing today. Yeah, well,
h we haven't learned that much as.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Am the people that are dealing with propulsion research now.
Is there anybody you feel that will be doing it
right or pretty much the old routine?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, there is one guy. I don't know him by
no loving and gosh, I can't remember his name, but
I remember he's Latino, and he is definitely on the
right track. He's he's an entirely different engine. It's not
like mine, and it's not like solid fuel or liquid
fuel something else. And he's really moving down the track

(18:27):
with it pretty well. There's all kinds of engines. There's Pauls,
there's ramjets, ramjets, there's the sales that pulled out like
big umbrellas, that ionization, there's an ion engine. There's lots

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of engines to pick from, and this guy is working
on I think it's on the ion engine, which I
think is going the right way. I'm I h anybody
out there know Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
I do all right?

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Okay, Well, if y'all, uh, if there's anybody out there
listening to my voice and they know Elon Musk, get
hold of him. Tell him to get hold of me,
and you can call Carl here. He's got all my
contact members and tell Elon I'd like to see uh

(19:30):
this month, I'm flying from North Carolina to Miami on
a private jet and then I get on a bigger
private jet and I'll be flying to Dubai, Saudi Arabia.
They want to build a big spaceport. They're bringing me
in to consult with me about that. And uh So,

(19:53):
if Elon Musk will show up, I'll give him my
uh my engine. I'll just outright. Who won't have to
haggle over anything. I'll just give it to him. Let's
see what he can do with it.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
But that's an offer he shouldn't be able to refuse.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
No, price can't be any better. And on top of that,
it could be very handy for him. Why is that
the speed of which his thin can move Right now?
With chemical rocket engines, they'll take you about a year
to get to Mars. I'll get you there in five

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minutes hard time.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
That's pretty quick.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
That's very quick. Also, there's some of the things I
plan to build at the spaceport that will directly affect
his project going to Mars. He wants a million people
over at Mars. Well, there's a way of supplying something
to him that he could really use. Think of a

(20:59):
Walmart inside the big round donut. What you do you
bring back the original space shuttles, which I don't even
wanna get into that. Then we should never shut those
shuttle down. There's such great things we never got to

(21:19):
do with them. But I'll give you an example. For
every shuttle that launches, and we have launched, like seventy
five of 'em. Uh, a shuttle will go up into
space and give right at the edge of space and
the I on a sphere and they jettisoned the external tank. Uh.

(21:44):
You probably hadn't don't give external tanks much stalk. But
but if you saw one, you'd never forget it. It's
so gigantic, it's unbelievable. It's a f uh an empty
egg shell by time it gets the orbit. In a
shuttle mission, it's what held five hundred thousand gallons of

(22:06):
liquid hydrogen, liquid oxygen. Well, that thing's trained out, and
the space shuttle, which is called the orbiter, it has
to push the external tank down so it gets hung
up in our atmosphere and then burns up over the
Indian Ocean and sinks to bomb the ocean. I had

(22:31):
a plan what we're going to do with the external tanks.
For every external tank that you've got, you don't push
it down. You get the orbiter out of the way,
and the inertia will carry the external tank into orbit.

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Then after you get about twelve or thirteen of them together,
you hook them nose to nose in a big circle,
and you end up with one third mile diameter and
m that'd be the strongest space structure ever built by
man in space. It'd be like an army tank. And

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then you pull a lever on each of the tanks
and they swing out. Walls would open inside and would
move into place and cause an external tank to break
up into different sections. And now you got one third
mile diameter of 'em. Then you put two through the

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center like a spindle, and those would be weightless environments.
That's where you do all your engineering stuff in a
weightless environment and then return to the outer chambers where
your life support and galleys and all your food and
stuff of that, and you'd have a chance to build

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up your muscles and not let them go into atrophy,
which is one of the big problems we have with
the space shuttles with design. But anyway, all just speculation
now because our brilliant President Obama, he put every single

(24:21):
space shuttle in a museum and now we just look
at him when we could be using them. There's so
many projects we yet to do with the space shuttles,
but we never got a chance to do it. Why
is that, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
It's a waste of materials.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
It is You don't even have a replacement for the
new space shuttles. Normally, if you retire a space shuttle,
you follow within a day or two as a replacement.
We have nothing. We have no way of getting off
this planet right now. Elon Musk is working on it,

(24:59):
but he Savinian guy. Well, that's another reason why if
Elon must would get hold of me, I could help
him out in so many areas, and I'd give him
about half this stuff because it would help me put
him down the road. Quite a way. He wouldn't even

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have to spend a penny on it. It's already done.
I did all this stuff. There was a machine up built.
You mentioned earlier, I made a living in spinoffs. Well
I do. You might ask yourself, what is he talking

(25:42):
about spinoffs? Well, let me give you an example. Uh.
And Apollo days, you had three astronauts inside something a
little bigger than a broom clothing. And these guys are
find three days out. I see, yeah, three days out,

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three days back, two days on the moon, six seven eight.
That's eight days you're going to be out there, and
you got to eat and drink and guess what something's
got to give you all. You can't hold that in forever.
So we had a problem. And boy, when they call

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them go Houston, we got a problem. They had a
problem because everything floats out there, everything, so everything number one,
number two, it all floats. So we came up with
an idea. We made these material that was special made

(26:51):
by Johnson and Johnson, and the astronauts could pull these
diaper type things on, and that's what they wore all
the time they went to the moon and back. They
used diapers. So a guy like me would go over
to Johnson Johnson and tell them, hey, you know what

(27:12):
we can do with this stuff, And then next month
you get disposable diapers. That's where they came from. They
came from the diapers that we built for the astronauts
to go to the Moon, and you get the convenience
of a disposable diaper. That's a spinoff. A spinoff is

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something that requires technology to solve a problem we have
in space, such as waste management, and then we look
at that, we redesign it and put it into a
commercial application here on Earth, and you get spinoffs. There

(28:00):
are thousands and thousands of spinoffs that goes on around
you all the time. You don't even know where they
came from. If there's a lot more than just tang,
let me tell you that we did a lot more things.
There's this one device. I remember. We welded the walls

(28:26):
of the command module together, and then after we welded
some of the outside walls, somebody said, well, what's the
inside walls look like? Are they still good? So we
built this X ray machine that's about the size of
a thermous bottle, and you hold it up to the

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walls and you look inside the walls, in between the walls,
and you know they're welded. Still good. So here comes
NFL yep, National Football League. You got a player laying
on the field out there. He's got a broken leg,
but we can't tell. So that the doctor pulls out

(29:09):
this thermos bottle looking thing, scans it up and down
his leg, and we can tell if he's got a
broken bone. And if so, we're at now, then you
fix it. That's another spin off. I can go for
the next eight hours describing spin off after spinoff after spinoff.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah. I would think the X ray machine would also
be a spinoff, because they use those in oil pipelines.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
They do. You know a lot of places where you
want to look inside something, not tear it all apart,
to see if it's okay. I remember one did this one.
They thought they always look at me a little odd anyhow,
but one day they really did look at me. He
kind of hot. Called up Dot Department Transportation and I

(30:03):
told them what I wanted to do, and they said,
you're kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm serious. See, let's go
back to the Apollo days. Here comes the Apollo command
module back in from the moon and it's coming in
at five thousand miles an hour and it's kind of
slow down. Otherwise it uses up a lot of runways

(30:26):
at that speed, and if it hits the water, it's
gonna kill you with the same impact as hid and concrete.
So they said, well, we'll just dumped out these three parachutes.
Each parachute size of a football field. Okay, so we're
gonna slow from five thousand miles an hour to twelve
miles an hour in just a few seconds. You better

(30:49):
have a really good shock absorber system between the parachutes
and the capsule, or the astronats go out at the
bottom of the capsule and they ain't gonna be too
happy with you about that. So I looked at the
parachutees recoil system between the parachutes and the capsule, and

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I called DOT and tell them what I wanted to do,
and they said, you're kidding. I said, no, let's do it.
They said, okay. So have you ever been by a
bridge and you see these yellow barrels? Yeah, and movie
you see them, they get hit and they're filled with water.

(31:33):
That's not so they're not full of water. They're not
full of sand. If they were hitting the sand or
the water at speeds that they do in the movies,
you'll be dead. And so that's just a Hollywood thing.
It looks more spectacular when you blow water all over
the place, but water would kill you. So what we

(31:57):
have if you look down at the bottom of the
yellow barrels, you'll see a square notch cut out in
the bottom of the barrel, and all those barrels are
hooked together. And what's inside these barrels is the shock
absorber system between the parachutes and the castle is now
in these yellow barrels. So you can drive past a

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bridge doing ninety miles an hour blow it's higher run
in strike the bridge instead, you'll strike these yellow barrels
and you and your wife gets out and your kids
and you walk home. Nobody's killed or hurt. So that's
what I'll put this out. The first year, I think

(32:41):
we saved like fourteen hundred people something like that. But yeah,
that's called a space spin off. And I can go
for the next eight hours, give you one example after
another after another. Like I said, there's a whole lot
more than just tang or freeze dried foods. There was

(33:05):
a lot of things that came out of Space program
that you got benefits for and you didn't even have
to pay for it. It was already paid for. It
was designed and built to solve the needs of the
Space program, and now you're getting to use the same
technology over again and people make money at it. Back

(33:27):
to that diaper, it was the person that came out
with that diaper idea. I guess what they get two
cents per diaper for every diaper made on planet Earth.
What do you think that's worth? It is the guy's
not working anymore. There are so many things like that,

(33:53):
and that's what I made a living there, space spin
offs at that, just getting in there. Oh my god,
the things that went on and did and I started
experimenting stuff. Another example, here's something else I will give

(34:15):
Elon musk.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Well, hold that thought. We'll go into our first break
and then let me come back. You can continue with it.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
Happy Thanksgiving from dark Matter News. As you're sitting down
to your Thanksgiving meal or going out to eat with friends,
or just staying at the house like me, always remember
that someone had a hand in what you eat, what
you wear, what you live in, what you drive. Someone

(35:24):
had a hand in that. Paul Harvey had a lot
to say about thankfulness and about the people who bring
you the food that's on your table now. Paul Harvey r.
Rent born in nineteen eighteen died in two thousand and
nine was an American radio broadcaster for ABC News Radio.
He broadcasts news and comment on mornings and middays on

(35:47):
weekdays and at noon on Saturdays, and also his famous
the Rest of the Story segments after that. From nineteen
fifty one to two thousand and eight, his programs reached
as many as twenty four million people per week. Paul
Harvey News was carried on twelve hundred radio stations, on
four hundred American Forces Network stations, and in three hundred newspapers.

(36:11):
How do I know Paul Harvey Well, climbing into my
dad's nineteen sixty seven Ford F one hundred powdered blue
manual steering with four on the floor. I would eagerly
climb into his truck to help him with his day,
and we would listen to news and commentary. I want

(36:33):
to take you back to that time, back in the
eighties when I would do that with my dad. Here's
Paul Harvey with So God made a farmer on six
hundred at wrc AM CBS Foods.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
And on the eighth day, God looked down on his
planned paradise and said, I need a caretaker. So God
made a farmer. God said, I need somebody willing to
get up before dawn milk cows, work all day in
the fields, milk cows again, eat supper, then go to

(37:27):
town and stay past midnight at a meeting of the
school board. So God made a farmer. I need somebody
with arms strong enough to wrestle a cap and yet
gentle enough to deliver his own grandchild. Somebody to call
hogs team, can tankeros, machinery, come home hungry, have to
wait lunch until his wife's done feeding visiting ladies. Then
tell the ladies to be sure and come back real
soon and mean it. So God made a farmer. God

(37:50):
said I need somebody willing to sit up all night
with a newborn colt, and wat should die and dry
his eyes and say maybe next year. I need somebody
who can shape an axe handbo from a per simons
sprout shoe, a horse with a hunk of car tire,
who can make harness out of hay, wirefeed sacks, and
shoescraps who planting time and harvest season will finish his

(38:12):
forty hour week by Tuesday noon, and then painting from
tractor back put in another seventy two hours. So God
made a farmer. God had to have somebody willing to
ride the ruts at double speed to get the hay
in ahead of the rain clouds, and yet stop in
midfield and race to help when he sees the first
smoke from a neighbor's place. So God made a farmer.

(38:34):
God said, I need somebody strong enough to clear trees
and heave veils, yet gentle enough to yean lambs and
wean pigs and tend the pink poamed pullets. Who will
stop his mower for an hour to splint the broken
leg of a meadow lark. It had to be somebody
who'd plow deep and straight and not cut corners. Somebody
to seed weed feet, breed and brake and disk and
plow and plant and tie the fleece and strain the

(38:56):
milk and replenish the self feeder and finish a hard
week's work with a five mile drive to church. Somebody
who'd bail a family together with a soft, strong bonds
of sharing, who would laugh and then sigh and then
reply with smiling eyes when his son says that he

(39:16):
wants to spend his life doing what dad does.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
So God made a farmer honest.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Thanksgiving weekend, I'd like to take a moment and thank
the people who make dark Matter News possible. Mister Carl
Richardson writes articles and does stuff with our website, and
mister Joshua cheers, our cheerleader, our social guy. I am
thankful for you guys. That's it for dark Matter News.
Catch up with us on the Midnight Frequency Facebook page

(39:45):
from Memphis, Tennessee. I'm Joshua Stark.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Welcome back to Midnight Frequency Radio. Our guest David da Dare.
Mister Dare, you were saying there was something else that
you'd be interesting, you could elud of musks.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
We had a problem, you see, We've got a problem,
and the problem was with metal. If you grab a
piece of metal here on Earth, I mean any metal.
I don't care for a spoon or fork anywhere metal,
and if you could look at it through an electron microscope,

(41:00):
you will see that the atomic structure of that metal
is just chaos. There's no organization to it at all,
because that's the metals hardening. It's sitting in a gravity
field on Earth called gravity conveector curves come in and
mess it up. Well, guess what, I figured out a
way to shape metal in a weightless environment. How do

(41:22):
you think you do that? It's like trying to herd
cats or shovel smoke. It's a little bit difficult, y'all.
So what we came up with was this. It was
an accident. Some of our best stuff is accident. So

(41:42):
the astronauts are sit and there going. In nineteen seventy
five on the sky Glass, I had a melt illuminum
and lead, the lightest and heaviest alloys. On Earth. You
will not get one hundred percent blend. You can't even
you're lucky to get about a forty or fifty percent
blend here on Earth. But in space we did the

(42:06):
same thing, and what we got was one hundred percent
molecure blends of the both ends of the spectrums of metal.
So what does that mean. It means that I learned
to shape sound waves, or just that I learned to
shape metal with sound waves. Now a lot of people

(42:30):
have to be telling this, and you know your mouth
is hanging open, and it should be. But there are
people who are tell me, oh yeah, I understand that
we can shape way. Well, I'll tell you what. Grab
yourself some verboat of waves which are standing, and interconnect
them to make a nine degree bend. When you do that,

(42:53):
let me know how it went for you. It's very
difficult doing this kind of stuff. But the piece of
metal I made up there in space was no thicker
than my thumbnail. But under a sheer test load where
you shear it off, that space metal had one thousand

(43:17):
times the strength of titanium, the hardest substance known on Earth.
It weighed less and strefoam of the same size, and
it's crystal clear. Transteal of the twenty second century. There
you go, So I'll give that he. Let's see what

(43:39):
he can do with it. Oh, by the way, remember Watergate, Yes, sir,
that sub that collapsed on itself and folded in and
killed all the old crew died. We could build a
baptistphere out of this material and it could never crush

(44:00):
because when I freeze the metal in place, I copy
the honeycomb. The heaviest load bearing structure none the man,
courtesy of the bees. So the honeycomb substructure inside the

(44:21):
molecty structure of the metal, and you get these the
metal that you cannot bend, break or crushed like you
did on on the seagate. So is this stuff getting interesting? Yeah?
I would think. Let's see, that's three, actually four patterns.

(44:49):
I don't give elon. But there's another one. This is
my favorite. This one's ready to go. I already did this.
Everything I'm telling you is past tense. I already doone it.
I don't have to guess about any of this. I
did it this. The next one I made is a
machine called an electro fritic processor. Now you might ask

(45:14):
yourself what is an electrophyritic processor. For the last forty
two years, you used to be able to type it
into the Internet and it would show up. I broke
sure that was made by McDonald douglas. Okay, I'm you

(45:36):
know fly by Night operation McDonald douglas pretty solid. Well.
They built two of these machines, and the reason they
hadn't built was the medical scientist came to me and
they said, David, there's something in the electrophorritic processors. We

(45:57):
got to get to I said, why there's something out there, Well,
why can't you get to it? Well, the electrophyritic processor.
It looks like a TV screen, it's full of us,
like an aquarium, it's full of a solution, looks like
an old sixties lava lamp. And what we have is

(46:19):
that this thing is filled with enzymes and hormones. We
fire electrical charge through there. The enzymes and hormones get
the hots for the electrons and chase them like pack
and some run faster and slow enothers get a layer effect.
And that is how you separate enzimes and hormones here
on Earth to manufacture vaccines and serums. Okay, that sounds logical.

(46:48):
So now what do we want to do? Well, the
medical scientists kept telling me there's something in that good David,
We've got to get that thing cleared out to the bottom.
We want what's in that goo? So I said, can
you build a machine that can go in the weightless
environment of the space shuttles and operate? Sure? So I

(47:13):
built two machines. We flew them all space shuttles. We
flew them on the Challenger, the Columbia, the Discovery, Atlantis,
all of them and it worked perfect every time. So
I went to a guy named This guy was the

(47:37):
engineer that we told him to build us the lessophorritic processor,
and he did and I said, God, that's a great
job you did. So I said, you did such a
good job on it, we want you to run it.
So he said, well, okay, Hey, where do I have

(48:00):
to go? Well, we were standing in Melbourne, Florida. I said,
about one hundred and fifty miles straight up and I
told him, I said, you're going to be an astronaut.
You'll be the first commercial astronaut ever to exist. And
so after we got him up off the floor, he

(48:23):
kind of realized he's going to be an astronaut. And
we trained him and he didn't work for NASA. He
didn't work Hey, you only worked for Dohn of Douglas
and me. Oh. He went up there, fired electrical arts

(48:46):
through and boy, the medical scientist went ape on me.
They said, there it is, that's what we were looking for. Oh,
I don't see anything. He said, it's a hormone. It's
seven times so let me get this right, five times
larger than anything that ever existed, and seven hundred times

(49:08):
puer than anything that ever existed. And they said, that's
gonna work. Fine. What's going to work? Fine? This hormone?
What are you gonna do with it? Well, you'll get
a person to come into the hospital and we'll give
them a one shot deal right in the abdomen, and

(49:31):
that hormone will go into the pancreast, start that pancreast
to produce beta cells. And I said, wait a minute,
I know what that means. You'll have a one shot
cure for diabetes to be going forever. Do you all
remember eating sugar cubes in this country and polio became extinct?

(49:55):
Tell me we do this stuff again. Of course we can.
We just need apply ourselves. But it doesn't matter. Now.
Both machines are setting down south and a hangar collecting
dust because all the space shuttles have been put in
a museum. Isn't that smart?

Speaker 2 (50:17):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
I just I must be stupid, or I'm you know,
I don't think I'm smart at all, or I should
be able to figure this out. That makes no sense.
The very construction vehicles you needed to do this fantastic
stuff with and you put them all in the museum.

(50:42):
I just don't get it. But anyway, if Elon Musk
would come by give me a few minutes, I'll go
over all this stuff. I have all the schematics and
the drawings and the formulas everything. I won't give them
to him. They work. Oh, by the way, you used

(51:03):
to be able to type in an electrophoretic processor on
the internet and go straight to the site and read
about it. Was there for forty two years. I started
raising ruckets about it. You know, why are we using
these things? And now you go to the same website
and let me warn your ahead time you'll get an

(51:23):
order blank for rubber dialdos. I swear to guy, they
pulled it down and put that up in its place.
I don't know about it.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I don't know about you, but I think I could
use that cure for diabetes.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Oh man, I know I could. They want to volunteer,
I'll volunteer. Yeah, take me in there.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah me too.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
I'm diabetic. And and so I was wondering for Elon Musk.
I know it's got four hundred billion dollars, but what
do you think the cure for one shot cure planet?
Why to get rid of diabetes? What would that be worth?

(52:14):
A great deal more. Yeah, I think it double will
triple his money. So if he would talk to me,
I'm not a fruitcake, I'm not a nut. I did
this stuff. It's done. It's setting you know. That's right
here on my desk. Here's all the plans and schematics

(52:36):
you need to put it together to make it work.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
When you were a youth, you were invited or taken
to write Patterson Air Force Air Force Base.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
What do you think the military expected from you at
the time.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Well, I mean what they wanted just once started as
a whole mess. That's back. There's a character you need
to know about. He's a four star general. His name
is Curtis LeMay. Curtis some of you will remember that name.

(53:14):
Curtis le May is the founder of sac Strategic Air
Command that controls our nucular defense system today. He is
a four star general. He was Chief of the Joint
Chiefs with President excuse me, with President Kennedy. So he

(53:42):
wasn't a remarkable man. He was capable of a thing.
He a nickname. We call him bombs the way of
le May. That's because he did so much bombing of
the Japanese in World War two. But he also he

(54:04):
was a little bit outspoken, y'all. And his autobiography was
called The Iron Eagle. I can'd of tell you something
right there. But anyway, in nineteen sixty eight, he told
the North Vietnamese, you come to Paris for the peace
talks because if you don't, I swear to God, I

(54:25):
will bomb you back into the stone age. And some
of you might remember that that's a true statement. Well, anyway,
he was fired next morning by Secretary of Defense Robert MacMan.
Robert said, you can't say something like that, so he

(54:48):
fires him. Well, if you knew l May like I
knew him, this man was not ready to retired. He's
fifty nine years old, and Matt mmay just threw him
out on his ear. You think he's going to take that, No,
you know what he did. He started the running for

(55:12):
vice president of the United States in nineteen sixty eight,
and he was the vice president candidate. The candidate for
president was a guy named George C. Wallace from Alabama,
and I think it's Alabama. But anyway, he was not

(55:36):
exactly a fair and equal player with George Wallace was,
and he got shot. He kind assassinated in the parking
lot where he's running for votes. And he survived, but

(55:56):
he was shot pretty bad. So LeMay had stop running
for vice president because his main candidate has just been shot.
So they let it go. And let me tell you,
but May was not going to quit. He wasn't. You

(56:18):
wasn't going to get rid of him that easy. So
he he wanted to run for president. Couldn't do that.
And let's say that's in the second the first Tuesday
of November. Then came Christmas nineteen sixty eight, and then

(56:42):
came January nineteen sixty nine, and there was a knock
on my front door and I opened the door and
there's a full board colonel standing there and he said
David Adare. I said yeah, he said, I said, are
you lost? He goes, not if David A. Dare, Well,
I'm David A. Dare. I'm seventeen years old at this moment.

(57:07):
And he told me, he said, General Curtis from May
just gave you Carte branch to build your rocket engine.
I stand there, going, oh, okay, is that all? So
I said, you want to come into them. So he
came in and we sat and talking, and sure enough,

(57:32):
General Curtis from Ay did that. Now, I'll tell you
some personal stories here I was. I had to talk
to General Emay on the phone. Well, how did I
get to know him? It was true my mother. My
mother became an LPN. They don't have that anymore, license

(57:53):
practical nurse, So she became an LPN and in nineteen
sixty the hospital where she worked at was one of
the first hospitals in America actually in the world to
build an ICCU unit intensive coronary care unit. There wasn't

(58:15):
such thing. And before nineteen sixty six, my mother became
the third shift nurse, so she ran the whole facility
at night. Well, she had an old patient laying up
the hair that was meaning the snake his name. Here

(58:39):
we go, My brain's going yea. Anyway, this man was
a patient of hers, and he had a bad habit.
He would call up the nurses into his ICCU unit
and they've been and he'd do some I guess, and

(59:02):
he hit one of the nurses upside the head with
his cane and the woman came back to the nurses' station,
and my mother looked at him, said what happened? And
she said, the gentleman in the room one of four
hit me, She said, really, So my mother gets up

(59:23):
because down the hallway, she goes into his room, grabs
his cane, breaks the cane over the bed, takes the
sharp end of it and sticks it in his neck
and tell him you hit one more of my nurses
like that. I swear to God, I'll come back in
here and I will kill you. You had a heart
attack and you died, that'd be the end of you. Well,

(59:48):
this man ninety three years old, he had a son
named Curtis, and it was Curtis le May so Amy
would come in to see his dad. His dad's name
is Irving, so Oh Irving and be laying there waiting

(01:00:12):
for his son to come to visit, and he would.
He had to come and visit at three or four
in the morning because he had a Papa Rozzi problem,
way worse than Elvis Press we ever had, and he
couldn't go anywhere without a mob in following him because

(01:00:32):
he was famous. And so he wanted to visit as
his dad, and he had to go through the head nurse,
which is my mother. So he talked to her and
got to know her and befriend her because he wanted

(01:00:53):
to see his dad, and he asked her, do you
have any children. She goes, I have three boys, two
of them normal, the third one of the youngest. One
we got to keep an eye on. He goes, why
is that? He blew things up? He builds the rockets
and he makes some real explosions at time. And so

(01:01:14):
he said, really, does he have a notebook he keeps
his notes in? She goes, yes, he does, So I
go to bed at night, leave him a big notebook
by my night stand. My mother would come in and
get it. She take it to the hospital. He looked
at it and he said, do you have a copier? Actually,

(01:01:37):
they didn't call it a copier back then. They called
it a xerox. If y'all remember that, Oh yes, yeah,
that was the only name. We didn't know what the
word copier was, but we knew what the name Xerox was,
and that's actually the company that made the thing. So anyway,
she says, yeah, we have a xerox. Here. He said

(01:02:00):
he can compire it. And what he did. He photographed
my notebook, not all of it, but about a third
of it. Then he took the copies and he took
it to a place called the Tail Memorial, which is
across the street from Ohio State University. Buttail Memorial is

(01:02:23):
like he has a competitor named Ran. They're a big
think tank. In nineteen sixty eight, they had one hundred
and seventy Nobel Laureates on their staff. This was a
serious think tank and le May was a graduate of

(01:02:47):
that place. So he asked them to take a look
at these notes. Is it just chicken scratchers? There's something
to it, And of course they looked at it, and
they came back and asked him where is this person. Well,
he's out in the calfields, Yes, launching rockets. Is that

(01:03:07):
stuff worth something? He goes, he's in the process of
closing the field on electromagnetic containment. Yeah, it's worth something.
NASA can't get there. They spent fourteen billion dollars trying
to get to not even the first rung of the ladder,

(01:03:29):
and he's halfway up the ladder. And LeMay was really
so that's how la May come to know about me
and my rocket. And after George wallacecott assassinated attempt, he
decided to send his executive loss here over to me

(01:03:51):
and we start this project and that's where it got interesting.
We were poor people back then. We didn't have anything hardly.
We had a telephone, but it was a landline, not
a party line. They called it. You remember party.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Lines, Oh yeah, I remember those.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Oh yeah, So it was a party line. Is a
telephone line where about ten or fifteen families share the line. Well,
I'm on the phone talking to Curtis whom May, and
it's old. There's an old woman with her her granddaughter
being in the cheerleading. Now if she says, I haven't

(01:04:36):
time to listen to this silly boy talk about rockets.
I have a granddaughter that needs help. And the Curtis
May said, who the hell is on this phone and
I said, oh, that's uh, that's Lydia, and he said
not anymore. Next morning, all these men showed up with

(01:05:00):
equipment and they put telephone poles in and they strung
a private telephone line to our house because he didn't
want to by listening in and anything, and so the
things I can't started occurring around the house. And I
always thought that was fun. But boy lady had got

(01:05:24):
chewed out by a four star general. That was that
was worth the whole thing to listen to.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
All right, we're going to take our second break here
and we'll be right back with David Day there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Uh, this is Dark Matter News. I'm Joshua Stark. A

(01:06:17):
mysterious object reportedly crashed on public land just outside the
boundary of Area fifty one in Nevada. The incident is
said to have happened in late September, and according to
locals who monitor the area, the response was immediate and
unusually intense. Witnesses reported hearing radio traffic referring to an

(01:06:38):
asset going down, followed by military security vehicles and Clark
County Sheriff's units blocking access roads. A helicopter with a
lift basket was also observed near a staging area that
included temporary equipment and personnel support, suggesting a planned recovery operation.

(01:07:00):
Observers who attempted to approach the area later found signs
of a crash site, including burn marks beneath Joshua, trees,
disturbed soil, and tracks from heavy vehicles. Some debris was
reportedly visible before being covered within days. The site was
graded over with fresh dirt into indicating a second cleanup

(01:07:23):
effort designed to hide or protect what had fallen. The
official explanation provided by the military is that an unmanned
aerial vehicle malfunctioned and crashed, and that an investigation is
ongoing into possible tampering, including the presence of unrelated debris. However,

(01:07:43):
those who have followed aircraft testing near Area fifty one
for years argue that the rapid lockdown and thorough concealment
are not typical of routine UAV accidents. Some believe the
object may have been part of a classified next generation program,
potentially involving autonomous control systems. Catch up with us at

(01:08:06):
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that the belief in the paranormal is far more common
than many assume, and a national survey conducted this year,
about forty four percent of Canadians said that they believe
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(01:08:27):
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four Canadians say they've had what they interpret as a
direct paranormal experience, such as sensing presence or witnessing something
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less likely to believe in the paranormal, while older adults
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Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Welcome back to midnight frequency radio. When our guests stayed
with Adair. Mister Adair, did you see anything at right
Patterson that made you think it wasn't built by terrestrials?

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Well, yeah, but it wasn't Right Parents, and we went
to right parentson. My rocket was taken air along with me.
They put us on a thing called the one seven
see one seventeen Starlifter, and they don't make him anymore.
But me and my rocket flew from right Parents and
Air Force. They first took us down to White Sands

(01:11:05):
proving Ground. That's where we set my rocket up for
a launch. And then when the thing was ready for launch,
the man that got off the plane checked my rocket
out of the name Arthur Rudolph. He was a former
old Bird colonel in the Castapo. He came over with

(01:11:28):
the water von Braun in Operation paper Clip, and he
came in to look at my rocket. And this guy
wasn't really nice. He he had blonde hair, blue eyes.
He's the Aryans a German. But he also was something else.
He was a homicidal associopath. He means he could kill

(01:11:51):
people without even thinking about it, didn't bother him. Born
without a conscience, Such was the people of Castopo. So
I remember standing there at White Sands in this black
DC nine come roaring the inn and landed, and I
made a joke to Colonel Williams bout I said, where's

(01:12:15):
the bunny head? Because back that year there was a
black DC and I am flying around in the country
and had a white bunny head, and it belonged to
Hugh Hesner, the editor of Playboy magazine. However, Colonel Williams
didn't find any of this funny. He said, we are
in serious trouble. Rthin Rudolph is here and he's going

(01:12:37):
to take over your project. And sure enough, that's what happened.
So I was stand there looking at this guy and
he come walking in. He asked me who I was
and I said, oh, I'm nobody. I'm just a janitor.
He said, janitors don't wear suits loops. So he asked

(01:13:03):
him who he was. He said, I'm just a guy
that checks out new technologies for the federal government. I
said really, He said, do you build a rocket? Yeah?
I did. He said, can we take a look at it? Sure,
So we walked over and I looked at my rocket
and I had to open the side of it open,

(01:13:27):
and I got a big piece of solid metal that
would weighed about a pound, and I ran it down
the side of the rocket and the rocket seems popped
up and it opened the side. And he asked me,
what is that he got in your hand. I said,
this old technology from World War Two is called the

(01:13:49):
similar metal rock. I'm familiar with it, and he wasn't.
And so anyway, he leans over and he looks down
in that rock engine and hard to Rudolf. He had
some smarts. He built the F one Saturn five moon

(01:14:09):
rocket engine that took us to the Moon in that
power program, so he had some umph of his own.
But he was bending over looking at my engine in there,
and I leaned over and put my face right next
to his, and I said, you know something, that engine
you're looking at has ten thousand times of the power

(01:14:31):
your F one Saturn five rocket engine, Doctor Rudolph, And
he jumped up real quick, and he read in the
face He's mad. He said, really, and who are you again?
I'm just a kid who launched rockets and calfields. Okay,

(01:14:53):
So it was it was a difficult day that day.
Rudolf was not friendly. He did take over the project.
He told me that he wanted me to land my rocket.
Instead of just a couple miles away at the landing ground,

(01:15:14):
he wanted me to send it four hundred and fifty
six miles northwest to a place called Groom Lake, Nevada.
Now I that's the only name I ever knew that
place by, but as time went on, we all come
to know it as Area fifty one. So I went

(01:15:35):
to Area fifty one with them and told him, I said,
we're going to land up there at Area fifty one. Yeah,
and a Groom Lake bed. Yeah, that's a big dry
lake bed. See the tires under your DC nine there,
you're going to plow up to the axle and you

(01:15:55):
won't be going anywhere. He said, don't worry about it.
You don't board. So I come on board. And I
looked at my geological survey maps and there's nothing but
a wake bed there. Well, we get there, starts circling
the place and there's twin ten thousand foot runways. They're
marked out, mapped out with chalk lines and strips of

(01:16:25):
marking tape and sticks, and you could tell they're getting
ready to build something really big there. And I said, okay,
so we're going to have a very large airport was
runways there, and so we got out of the plane

(01:16:49):
and I looked at my rocket and it was out
there on the desert floor and it had made it
there just fine. When it left white sand, and I
forgot to tell you that we clocked that thing for speed,
and when it ignited its engines and the left, it

(01:17:14):
was a major explosion. The launch pad was gone and
the rocket was gone. Nobody saw anything leave. So everybody said,
your rocket blew up. I said, yeah, I knew better.
Some said there counting. Then the red phone rang and
on the red phone is nor Red North American Air

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Defense Command, part of Strategic Air Command, and they were
tracking a rocket and the guy you hear, the guy
on upon what are y'all doing over there? We had
a Savilian kids launched a rocket over again and it
blew up. We didn't see see anything leave. He said, oh, really, well,

(01:18:00):
then we're tracking something that's left out of your area
and it's people. Tell me, David, if we made the
mock ten. Somebody asked me, David, how fast is your rocket?
In nineteen seventy one mocked thirty seven, So it's moving

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at about one hundred and thirty miles every three point
two seconds. Have you ever seen a rifle bullet leave
a barrel? That's why I was like trying to see
my rocket leaf. Yes, it's so, it's just so. It's
insanely fast. And as a matter of fact, this engine's
not designed to be launched on Earth. It's designed to

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be launched in space, like al five. That's where the
gravitational forces are equal between the Earth and the Moon.
We launch out there, and I still such a horrendous
gravity pool. If you try to ride that rocket engine
on the Earth, you would be soup, just tear you

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to pieces. So anyway, it takes a modification. But my
engine is designed for really long distance travel. As a
matter of fact, you hook my rocket engine on a
device that I built called a mass driver, not to

(01:19:28):
be confused with the city bus driver. A mass driver
is a device that will fly out into the asteroid
ring its orbiting between Jupiter and Mars. There you pick
a small asteroid out the size of the state of Texas,

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and then you blow your anchor, blow down bolts in it,
and turn my enginees on and you drive that mass
back to Earth. When you get it back here, you'll
park it on the opposite side of the moon, so
you won't affect the gravitational tides of the ocean, because
once you'll have set in there is trillions of tons

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of nickel, zinc, magnesium, iron, chromium, all the elements of
Earth minus the dirt, and you dig into that thing
and stop eating your planet up like termites. And that
is what the project of a mass driver is. So

(01:20:31):
I'll give that to Elon Musk. There's a lot of
things he could use off of me. And like I said,
I'm seventy one, I'm not going to be here forever,
so i'no to give to somebody younger, especially if they
got a lot of money like that. They can build
these things and you can enjoy them, but think that

(01:20:52):
would be appropriate thing to do with human race. So
I was quite frankly, we've got a bleak looking future.
I mean it, it doesn't look good. But there's there's
a way around that we can fix these things. So

(01:21:18):
there we go. That's about four or five of my adventtion.
I've got more, but I think that would be enough
for a lifetime. Any one of those projects would be
But the electrophyretic process is that one's my favorite. That
one's ready to go. It's just setting on gathering dust.

(01:21:38):
It's waiting to go to work.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Yes, sir, did you see anything unusual in Area fifty
one while you were there?

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
You know, I'm asked that a lot. I didn't see
any aliens, but I did see some spacecrafts, and I
did see a higher plant. An engine, and that thing
was not from here. It was an electromagnetic fusion and

(01:22:08):
drive engine and it was completed and it's just setting there.
And I know one other thing. It was as sentient.
It's an engine organic, but it's also it's a mechanical

(01:22:28):
device inorganic. It's both and I just don't know how
that thing does that. But yeah, that I need for sure,
I've built the closest thing to it. This thing. Mine
would be a Model A and this thing would be
a Lamborghini. It was extremely advanced, and I don't know

(01:22:54):
where it came from. If I had one, I would
give that to a muscat.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
He needs to speak with you, because I think he
would rack up, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Oh it's you know, when you own four hundred billion
dollars in liquid cash, it's hard to meet somebody that
can overwhelm you with money. It's like he would laugh,
don't exist. I could triple his money if it only

(01:23:33):
get busy and get down with the stuff and start
working it. We could all benefit from it. And that's
the whole idea is to benefit the humanity. Let you
guys win a few lord and mercy. Somebody needs to
do something of just setting around and it being so miserable,

(01:23:58):
and all you hear about now is revelations into the world.
Why are you ready to do that? You know, I
think we still got things to do, and you got
grandkids and great grandkids, and what about them? You just
gonna light them off? I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
So it's but I will have to admit I'm seventy
one and a half years old and I ain't getting
another younger. And if I die, all this stuff goes
with me. Because NASA has basically upended and routed out everything.

(01:24:42):
The only thing I can do left is just gives
the stuff away to somebody like Elon Musk, who I
think would put it to work and you can all
benefit from it. I don't care. I'm going out, so
it doesn't matter to me. But I would like to
leave a legacy behind for the rest of you all

(01:25:04):
and your grandkid, your great grandkids, and good God, you know,
somebody needs to think ahead for the seventh generation. And
nobody thinks their heads like that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Yes, sir, But.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
Anyway, that's what I have told my story. I have
told you what I would like to do and plan
to do and things I've already done. And that's what's
the weird is people start to investigating me, and I

(01:25:44):
tell them, please, the more you investigate, the better I look,
because then things start proving out right, I means it
actually happened, and then I can give you real stuff
that you can put your hands on, sink your teeth
into you and that kind of stuff. There's very few

(01:26:07):
people that can do that. And I just don't want
to come here and go and not leave something behind
for you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Yes, sir, I understand that totally.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Yeh. It'll make my life worth living. This why I
came here. Yeah, make things a little bit better for y'all. God,
everything you got in leadership today is take, take, take, take, take,
and they just don't give you back anything.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Yes, sir, Are you working on any projects like books? Sir?

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
I should to answer your question and a single word. No,
my patents aren't even wiled under the amstrap of bibiographies
and the PAN Office, cause I don't want anybody to
know of anything, so it's totally unknown. Nobody has this

(01:27:13):
but me and I have. The old lady one time
put a bruise on my leg. She hit me on
the leg with a cane. She said, you should share
yourself with the rest of the world. Well, honest, lady,
I never saw myself of being much worse to be

(01:27:34):
shared with. But then she pointed out some other I
couldn't stand it. Another hit with that cane, and she
told me. She goes, well, there is nikolay Tessler, there's Einstein.
She says, you're in good comfort company. I said, well,
I guess we could look at it that way. But

(01:27:57):
now I kind of wish I had a book.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
I do have a three hundred and seventy five page
book in my computer. I haven't printed it out yet,
but it's completed. It's my life story. I just never
thought of writing and publishing and go, oh look what
I've done. Yeah, see me, wonderful me great? I never

(01:28:24):
I never was built like that. If it wasn't for coffee,
I would never find myself in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
I know that feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Oh anyway, yeah, I would think, you know, my life
boy ed make a great movie. I tell you that
it's it's a movie. It's just waiting to be made.
He picked up. I doubt happened. But y'all would like
it as a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
I tell you, well, lot of enjoy reading the book.
If one day you decided to release that, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
I think if go over the edge here, I think
I'll we'll print out the book. It's done. It's just
you need to print it out and put it on
a disc and there you go. Yes, sir, you know,
not that big of a mystery. But I didn't think, well,

(01:29:27):
I didn't think people even remember me. But I'm learning
from the internet that's not so. There are hundreds of
videos on me in the internet. And I'm saying there going,
y'all got to get a life.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Well, I've Google search to myself, you know, looking for information,
and you would definitely come back with a large response
of articles.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
And like you say, oh man, I have been interviewed
and interviewed and interviewed and I've answered about it means
questions as I can. But yeah, if you if you're
sitting around your board, you got nothing else thereter do
look me up, check me out. I think you'll be

(01:30:22):
surprised what's away in there. Had one woman told me
she because you know, you're not much different than the bigfoot,
and I said, yeah, my foot's only ten and a half.
They got like a seventeen inch foot. I think there's
a big difference there. But she said, you're making an

(01:30:45):
influence and you just don't see it. I guess I don't.
I never was a person say trying to tell you
what I've done, and it's nothing but trouble will want
have done and then they can see it on their face.
They get scared, then they get mad and because they

(01:31:09):
don't understand you, and then they ostracize you, and then
you're by yourself again. So I just said, you know,
it's just not the air. But I think your dog disagrees.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
Yeah, I think he's wanting out.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
I can appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Yes, sir, well, I'm sure you need to get on
with your evening. But like I say, I'm honored to
have you here. It's it's been a pleasure and I
enjoy your your events that you've had during your lifetime.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
And yeah, I'm somewhat candid about it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
I guess yes, sir, And I'll be back in touch
with you about uh, you know that item that I
talked to you about before they we went live.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
Yeah, yeah, that'd be fine. And maybe somebody out there
knows Elon Musk. You know, you'd be surprised were people
who know people like that, You never know that they
knew them, that they're quiet, and they might be sitting

(01:32:21):
at home listening to the story and going, wow, I'd
better call Elon and tell him here's somebody he's got
to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Oh yea, yeah, he can contact me and I can
tell him how to contact you exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
That's exactly right. I would let you contact me directly.
But I'm like Elon Musk, I got so many people
coming at me. They want projects. That's why just this
month alone, I'm gonna have to fly a private jet
from here to from North Carolina to Miami and then

(01:33:02):
get on a bigger private jet and fly from Miami
to Saudi Arabia Dubai. And I thought, this is crazy.
Let's see what happens here.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Yeah, that's that sounds like a good future. Interview after
you do all that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
Yeah, there's another company there that wants me to talk
to Sophia. Sophia is she's an AI, she's famous, she's
got a The Saudi Arabian people gave her a citizenship.

(01:33:41):
She has civil human rights. If you shut her off,
you can be held from manchaughter. That's all, you know.
You can check that out on the internet. They got
all kinds of stuff. Her name is Sophia. I've talked
to her once before already, and she's a little bit

(01:34:02):
of a worders some thing. She talked to me, and
then when we were sitting together quietly, she looks around
and everybody's around, and she says to me, you're a
very interesting human being. You'd make a wonderful pet.

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
Oh my goodness, disturbing anybody hear there, I said, for
God takes, you just told me i'd make an excellent
pet human zoo.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
Watch out, y'all. These eyes are sneaking up on you.
I'm telling you, I'm it's that's you know, that's one
of some of the things I talk about. That. Yeah,
we need to talk about and let things get out
of hand.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Yes, sir, I have my concerns about AI myself. So yeah,
it's just that's a discussion that needs to take place.

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
Yeah, they're I have a feeling they got a whole
string of robots for me to talk to. And I
don't know if you've been watching Japan lately, but Japan,
Korea and China are cranking out these companion robots and

(01:35:18):
they are by as close to an Android as you're
gonna get. Yeah, and i'll tell you in ten years
from now, I'll be gone, y'all. Remember this. Ten years
from now, there'll be a thing. Now, walk into a room,
be a pretty girl, a good looking guy. They'll sit
down next to you. They'll need a shave, they might

(01:35:43):
have bo and they're not human. They're a machine replicated
that perfectly.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
Yeah, that's kind of disturbing to me.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
It should be, you know. Yeah, I got new business
doing that. Don't come back and get us for it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Oh yeah, Well, sir, I think I'll let you get
on with your evening and okay, and I'll send you
a link to when this is up after I do
any editing, and you'll be able to use it as
you see fit.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Also, yeah, and tell everybody put your comments in there.
And hell Carl if you appreciate him doing this. Hell yeah,
be truthful, Carl, fuck you to get me. And I
don't mean that in an arrogant way. I mean I

(01:36:42):
just don't talk to people anymore. I'm a damn recluse.
I'm a hermit.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Well, I may call you from time to time just
to check on you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Do so all right, sir? Do you have a good
evening and I'll probably be back in touch in the future.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Okay, sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Good night, y'all, good night, Thank you, sir, you.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
Got a member. I'm from the South. I'm from the
land of y'all is singular and ally all.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Is poor exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Bye bye Bye.

Speaker 8 (01:38:11):
Baa.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
The bo

Speaker 8 (01:39:46):
Boll Beople