Lenard Toye April 4th 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Take a ride with us.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Good morning or evening wherever you may be. From the
Ozark Foothills in northeast Arkansas. I'm Carl Richardson and this
is Midnight Frequency Radio. Our guest tonight is Leonard Toy.
Leonard is the husband of Lori Toy and involved with
New Age Prophecy Lynn is an energy hiller, mentor and
co founder of i AM America Publishing. His spiritual training

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began at the age of eleven under the guidance of
an Asian master, where he'd developed and early understanding of
the body, subtle energy, and natural healing. He later studied
at Barbara Brennan's School of Healing and spent time in
a Tibetan ashram, refining his ability to perceive and work
within the human energy field. In nineteen ninety one, Lunar

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co founded the School of Four Pillars with Louri, supporting
students through holistic healing and ascended master teachings. Today, he
serves as a dedicated sitter for i AM America sessions
and mentors students internationally. He also supports the teachings presented
in Inner Earth, Inner Light, contributing his study presence and

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decades of experience in the ascension process. His wife, Laurie,
is a visionary and spiritual leader whose journey began with
the groundbreaking I Am America Map. For nearly four decades,
she has shared profound insights from the ascended masterress on prophecy,
the time of change, and personal spiritual growth. Recognized as

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an independent scholar, educator, and dedicated researcher in the ascented
Master tradition, Laurie's best selling I Am America Maps, published
over thirty years ago for saur mainstream concerns about environmental
issues like global warming and climate change. With over thirty
books to her name, Laurie's work explores personal development and

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self discovery, focusing on humanity's ongoing ascension process. Her contributions
have shaped the spiritual landscape and garnered exclusive media recognition,
including features on NBC, Fox, UPN Carlton Television in London
and Coast to Coast AM. Her insights have been highlighted

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in exteemed publication such as The Washington Post and The
New York Times. Leonard, Welcome to Midnight Frequency Radio.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
Thank you so much, carl. I feel absolutely his static
about being able to speak with you and your audience.
Thank you for the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, it's great having you here. I'm going to start
with some basic questions. First, for listeners who are not
that familiar with Laurie in your work, can you kind
of give us a rundown?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Sure, When Laurie was a child, she would have very
interesting experiences. She tells a story about she grew up
in a small farming community in Idaho, and she talks
about how she would get off the bus and walk
down the gravel road and go by her grandmother's garden
and there in the garden she would to the little

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fairies and things like that, and so she was probably
six years old at that time. And then she also
explained the story where she was working in the Pacific
Northwest as a salesperson for a small publication and she

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went into a health food store and as she walked
in the door, a lady behind the counter stopped, looked
at her and pointed to her and said, you have
work to do for Master Saint Germain. Now, at that
point that was a little shocking because she grew up
as a Missouri sin of Lutherly, and you know, it
was kind of a really big turn away from the

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culture that she had experienced. So later on, as time
went on after that specific event and she was back
home on the farm in Idaho, she kept having this
reoccurring dream where four beings in white robes would come
and unwoll the eyem America math. And then in another

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interim time she was awakened in her bed and she
looked and there was this crackling energy, this like lightning
force when Saint Germain just stood there and in a
certain sense gave a sense of blessing, a sense of upliftment. Now,
what most people don't understand is Jesus, who is actually

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overseeing all of this and is referred to as Lord
Sonanda because of the management job that he has. The
assented masters are in effect his students. And so it's
not that we're in any way, shape or form conflicting
with our personal knowledge of traditional Christianity. This is the

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expansion of moving and expanding for us as an entire
group of humans. And so Laurie then as she moved
on with this experience, she worked diligently to present this map.
And what was really interesting is that in the very
first book that she had a teacher appears, which is

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kind of like a primer for everything. She was kind
of uncertain as to whether she was going to go
along or not. But in the original information that came
through the map was given as meats and where it
would start on a certain point, it would then go
so many kilometers in a specific direction. And these are

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just these columns and columns of numbers. Now they're not published,
but they are part of the actual process of how
the map was brought about. And then all of the
other things that the map has are added so that
there's a more defined explanation of what it is. It

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is a map of prophecy. It's not a map of
absolutely has to happen. But it is a map to
get people to a place where where they choose a
better world or not. And I think that's kind of
the direction that we would all like to go as
a human species, to choosing a better world. And I

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think that that's the essence of it. So when I
first started to work with Lauri, the math had already
been produced, and so she was no longer working with
the person who was at that point helping her, and
she needed somebody. I didn't know any of that, so basically,
I was given insight, I was given personal interaction with

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Saint Germain and angels to go and see Laurie. And
I kept saying what for, and they kept saying for Laurie.
So I didn't know anything really about Lori. But I
traveled to the Pacific Northwest and met her, and I
haven't left since. So basically, I guess I'm fulfilling an

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assignment at this junction. So that's the short and long
of how we got together and the short and long
of how she started.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, I do hope humanity decides to make the right choices,
because according to this map where I'm at in Arkansas,
I either be underwater or have a riverfront property. I'm
not sure which.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well, you know, the interesting thing about it is when
you look at at those opened areas on the I
Am America map. Okay, so we have other maps. We
have a world map, we have a we have a
different timeline map known as the sixth Map scenario. But
when you look at those those are literally fault lines.
And at the time, I mean Laurie's education at Pacific

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Lutheran University and also you know her life growing up
and living on a farm, the truth of the matter,
she really wasn't exposed to geology that much. So you
know the essence of it is that those were outlined
and given to her. And they literally are fault lines

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that we don't really talk about. Everybody thinks about, you know,
the San Andres is the big fault line, but it's not.
It's the one that runs through Arizona and then all
the way up to Mount Chapster in northern California. So
it's you know, you know, in through Utah, and it's
definitely a lot more than what people realize.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Oh yeah, I'm located on the Magraet fault line. And
of course, yes, it generated some pretty good quakes back
in eighteen eleven. In eighteen twelve.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
That it did and the land dropped about ten to
twelve feet.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I think, yeah, I think it was the creator of
real Foot Lake and a couple of others. And yes,
we still have a great deal of small quakes along
this fault line here. What they keep saying that as
long as we're having the smaller ones to help relaid pressure,
we can possibly avoid the bigger ones. I hope that's

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the case.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well, you know, Carl and all honesty Everything moves. So
if I put a stake in the ground someplace in
the GPS, it and we come back a half a
decade later, it's moved. It's not exactly at that precise
degree minutes and seconds, it's gone in a you know
which way, I don't know, but everything does move, so

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you know how much movement it is. I mean, you're
dealing with what do we have I think seven tectonic plates,
and they're all in a certain level of flux. And
of course, with the explanation of this this book, that
we now have inner Earth and inner light, you know,
the tectonic plates are in a certain sense sitting on

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top of a floating magma layer, and of course that's
you know, there's going to be movement. Now, how much
movement there is, I'm not really sure. I mean, we
talk about climate change and global warming and we say, oh, yeah, well,
you know all the pollution. Well maybe, but consider that
the Earth and the Sun are not always at the

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equally distance. Other things happen, other magnetic flux has happen
from the other planetary structures, and so right now we're
probably closer to the Sun, no different than when we
had an ice stades going back to the younger, dryest
period when we were probably farther from the sun, so
all of the the the northern parts of our planet.

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You know, it was ice. I mean, it wasn't just
it was ice. It was extremely deep, you know, miles
or so in certain locations and less. But the reality
of it, this is a fluctuating movement. Everything is, in
a certain sense fluid.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Is there a major disaster that LORI saw that led
a lot to this this current I AM America map.
Was it an asteroid strike or something?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
It wasn't initially an asteroid strike in the Nevada Desert
that set off a series of events of volcanic eruptions
and also you know, tectonic plate shifting and so on
and so forth. I mean, I still have people to
this day that think, well, the New Madrid fault line
is going to go any second. Well, I personally don't know,

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and I personally pray every morning when I work up
that it doesn't. So the object here is not to
be right. The object is to be able to say, hey,
this is what we're potentially looking at. Can we change
this as our potential pathway or future for humanity? And

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that's the real essence of it. It's it's not about
being right, it's who wants to be right about that?
Lord doesn't either, you know. We just but what when
you're presented something like that and you've got angels and
master teachers and the Lord all there saying, please present
us to the world, Well, how can you say no?

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You can't? You know, if you're if you're you've got
a conscience and if you've got a sense of duty
and a sense of love for the world and people, Yeah,
you're going to do the best you can to put
it out in a manner that it can be an
easy explanation.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, I think when she first had the the map
given to her, I would say she wanted to get
the word out for the people to the point where
I think y'all ended up selling your home.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
And well this was before my time, okay, So I
am Lorie's second husband. So the way this worked out
is that she put her house on the market and
sold it so she had the money to print it.
And this was the house that she received in a

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settlement from her first husband, and so she sold this
house and she got full price for it. I mean,
it was you know, not a back in the day.
If you're going back in nineteen eighty eighty nine, you know,
prices were very different. You know, the dollar bought a
lot more. And so she sold the house and then
she went on a tour into California and gave the

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maps away and gave presentations and slept them people's couches,
and so the essence of it. Issue was very devoted
and wanted to get this information to as many people
as possible.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
What inspired Laurie to write in Earth in Her.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Light, Well, it has to do with the fact that
two things. One is, the spiritual hierarchy has always explained
to us that the planet is going to become a sun,
and that's why the map of the world is referred
to as the Freedom Star. So our solar sun is
a golden sun, and our planet, you know, whoever, however

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long this takes, I have no idea is going to
become a violet star. And the purpose of it is
it's a transmutative star. So when you're dealing with the
seven Archangels, so you're dealing with Michael and the first
ray of the Blue Ray, and you're dealing with Chamuwel,
the pink ray, and you're dealing with Jaffiel the yellow ray,

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and you're dealing with gradl white ray, dealing with Raphael
the green ray, and Burial is kind of a rubous
goldish ray, and then the seventh ray is Zach Zachel.
And so basically what you're dealing with is this law
of seven of all of these layers of light, so

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full spectrum light on our planet divides into seven parcels.
And physics and the archangels are really referred to at
a not at a metaphysical level, but more of a
cosmic idea as arc angles. There are angels who angle
specific frequencies of light, and so if our planet becomes

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a violet star, it's transmutative because to go to the
next octave is basically going to the gold ray, which
is the archangel Christiel. And the essence of that is
what we're doing. We're given like a like a set
of mantras or chance, calling upon the violet lane to
transmute for ourselves personally, our family, our friends, for illness, disease,

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you know, anything, because it's a transmutated thing as far
as the violet ray and flame to help to uplift
humanity to the next octave of consciousness.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, Laurier was writing Inner Earth in her light. What
was it like behind the.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Scenes, Well, there was a lot of light coming down
the hallway from her office. Okay, And I think I
mentioned this too, that Laurie is not what you would
call a channel. The channel is a person who is
going to work singularly with one entity because she's worked

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with many, and that entity will step in and take
control and give the information. Laurie is, what I understand,
is an interdimensional communicator. So basically, the way the spiritual
hierarchy references it, they call it the plane of reciprocity.

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So it becomes a balanced area where she speaks to them,
they answer questions or they give information, and she repeats
what they're saying. Now, if I'm sitting in a scenario
where it's the two of us, I will hear them
and see them, and I will listen to so I

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will be the person who, basically I can just tell
you simply that I'm the person who will always know
whether we've got the information coming through clearly or not
because I'm hearing them. And then she repeats it, and
then we record it. We used to record it on
cassette capes. Now it goes on some digital kind of

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recording device. But the point of the matter is the
purpose of bringing this book about is because we had
many discussions about our own Soilver son. So what most
people don't understand is the Sun's not hot. It's the
friction of the Sun's luminosity or its atmosphere pushing against

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the gravitational fluxes of all the other planets that create friction,
that create heat. So one of the things you might
look for on the internet is sometimes you'll get one
of our circling Oh basically, we have an array of

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telescopes that are in the sky and they take pictures
of the Sun bless you. And sometimes what will happen
is you'll see this little black box very very close
proximity to the Sun's corona, and you say, well, what
is that. It's actually a ship. And then occasionally we'll

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see the little black box and some of the other
shots that are taken atmospherically of our planet. Well, what
does that say? That says at a discovery level, that
says that that particular little ship is not burning up,
and it's not burning up because the actual atmosphere is

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not the same that we think in physics. Now, I'm
going to have people jump all over me with emails
and things like that, but that's fine. I don't care.
I'm only telling you how it's been explained to me
from the spiritual hierarchy, and I pretty much accept their
explanations as being much more realistic. So the planet, the

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planet that we call the Sun, is indeed a planet,
and it has an inner core that is literally a
plasma solar radiant energy. Now, the center of our own
planet has the same thing, and this solar or i

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should say, this plasma field, is an eternal light inside
our planet. And that's where these very very highly developed
beings like the Garthians and so on and so forth
reside in the up to the twelfth dimension. And so
that center core connects to the center core of our Sun,

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that then in turn connects to the center core of
the galactic center, and then from the galactic center to
the center of the universal structure, and then from the
center of the universal structure to the multiverse, which what's
beyond that I have no idea, But you know, technically
everything is connected, everything is part of the one consciousness.

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From source or God. So you know the essence of
it is that it's her inspiration was that they came
and they asked, and then they presented an angel who
resides interplanetary. So to think that angels are only like
celestial or extraterrestrial, that's not true. There are angels inside

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the center of the Earth, and this particular angel is
a Marial and she is the one who helped with
all of this information. She helped with all of this
that is in this book today.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Does she view the earth civilizations that exist today? Remnants
are trying to think of the proper word.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Okay, okay, so are you referring to service civilizations or
inner civilizations?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Surface?

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Okay, so the surface. You and I are surface beings. Okay,
you and I and everyone else who will hear this broadcast,
we're on the surface. Now, all of these different civilizations,
if you start paying attention to them, we have very
very similar things. We have different ways that going about. Culturally,

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we're very different, and sometimes the cultures clash and they
create a fractured geopolitical kind of arrangement. But the point
of the matter is that everybody just wants to have
a family. They want to have. They want to have
a sense of peace, They want to have a sense
of who or what is their spiritual source, will call

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God because they different have different view points on that.
They really just want in a certain sense to have
some kind of personal communication and some sense of peaceful community. Now,
whether those communities work together or not, you know, I
don't know, it's you know, it's that's the jewelry, so

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to speak, is out on all of that. We're in
a time of great flux, and so in this time
of great flux, you're going to have things change or
things that you don't expect. Now, have you heard the
concept of kali yuga?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I have it? Elsa?

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Okay? So in the Hindu tradition, kali yuga is the
time of darkness. And what is that time of darkness mean?
The time of darkness is when the surface of the
Earth only has twenty five percent full spectrum light. So
in a twenty four hour day rotating on the axis,

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generally speaking, we have about twelve hours of darkness and
twelve hours of daylight. But in the twelve hours of
daylight you have sunrise and sunset, you only have about
six hours of full spectrum light. Now if we historically
or mythologically go back in time to the time of
Pangae or Pangaea, and you can see how South America

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and Africa could kind of fit together. And it was
one continent floating on the surface of the ocean, and
the bottom of strata was Pomis, which allowed the continents
all stuck together as a pancake, to be, in essence,
a continuous confident. It was daylight twelve million all the time.

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And so in that time, the evolutionary process of all
of the people on the planet at that time, or
the flat Earth that some people would say, is in
essence greatly evolving very quickly. Now, as the planet and
the Solar system moved through the rest of the galactic structure,

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what happens is some of the other structures between us
and the center of the galaxies take that light and
mute it and reduce it down. And so in the reduction,
the only thing that happens is things start to break up,
things start to come apart, which is where we are
today at this moment. And so the evolutionary process is

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much slower. You don't have people living for thousands and
thousands of years and working through everything to balance and
then moving on to the next levels of dimensions. It
doesn't happen now, but could it happen in the future. Possibly,
But that's really above my knowledge base at this point.
So the difference in all the different peoples, I think

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that that's probably a design parameter of learning to choose.
And that's just a personal opinion because you know what
people choose, it's really up to them. It's individualized. I
know it. Having children and grandchildren, you know, you share
with them your beliefs, which they may accept them not.

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You share with them your sense of ethics, you share
with them love, you share with them what you value.
But ultimately they have to choose for themselves. You can't
make them. You must allow them to be who they
really are and accept it. You kind of, you know,
you let go and just have that level of acceptance.
So the same thing is, with all this information brought,

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we bring it through to the best of our ability.
If it's not accepted, okay, it's not. If it is,
that's trying to.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
A big thing from is and she covered it in
the book in her transformation, What did Glory believes humanity
needed to wake up to? Do you think.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Their own divinity. So I was watching a television program
and it had to deal with values and things like that,
and so one of the statements was that all the
people in the world, about five percent or less, have

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a real saintly attitude and live that way. And then
you get another five percent on the opposite end, and
they are, for lack of a better word, stone cold evil.
And then in the middle of the other ninety percent,
they're just just trying to do their best to get
along and you know, and make life worthwhile for them.

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And so it's it's the learning to choose, you know,
because obviously the people at either end of that spectrum
are chosen, and it's the people in the middle who
don't have this sense of personal confidence that you know,
they come from source. They come from this divine spark,

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which we would call the Holy Spirit and also the
other essences that the masters of we define the Holy
Spirit is as basically like the they refer to it
as the I Am presence, the presence of God that
is with us always as it spirit pierces everything in
the material world, it spears it literally, and so it's

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philosophically it was to empower people to be able to
make a choice to make the world better instead of
letting the five percent who like manipulate control things to
you know, make things very difficult for us anymore.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I know, in our present state of affairs, so to speak,
people make their decisions a great deal off of news
broadcast and we seem to be dividing more and of
course having conflicts. But do you feel that people are
beginning to awaken?

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I do. I do. I have this overwhelming sense of positivity.
And the reason why I say that is because when
I was growing up, I remember being in family situations
where men would greet each other, they shake hands, and
that's about it. I watch people hug each other now

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and it's kind of like going, wow, even people, little
military people hug each other and go like, what is that?
That is something that is ingrained in us that we
hadn't revealed yet. That is just part of who we
are at a naturally human level, where we start to

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have this sense of more camaraderie. Now, of course everybody's
got us versus them kind of thing going on because
they're not quite comfortable with everybody being different. Saint Germaine
has always said, rejoice in the differences, because the differences
make us whole. It's kind of like he said, do
the tomatoes fight with the cabbage and just gorn fight

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with the asparagus. You know, I was probably about ten
years old. We gave this outline, but you know it's
in essence. No, they don't. They kind of like, Okay,
we're going to grow together and bear fruit. That's about it.
We haven't gotten there yet as a global population. Give
us some time we will. Maybe it's beyond my time here.

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I'm okay with that, but I know we're going there.
I know that that is what's going to happen. And
the reason why I know that is that in my
heart of hearts, love of all humanity, of all people.
People that do good things, you love them. People who
do bad things, you still love them. Now, that doesn't
mean we aren't accountable for the things we do, but

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that law of love that was shared with us for
this last two thousand years, that is a predominant underlying
direction that we are going period. It's a fact.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Well, I would hope everybody would look at each other
as part of the human race and forget about colors
and other well issues.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I can't speak for everybody else. But and I can
have that hope and I can have that prayer, but
I can't make people do something they don't want to do.
It's true, yeah, you know, you know, And it's this
cooperative thing, you know, I think you know. One of
the things that is the Master's explained to us is
that we as a solar system or traveling through what

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is known as a plasma field. And this plasma field
is gold. And it would be like looking from space
at a oh, a flotilla of ships traveling across the
Pacific Ocean. It's timing. It's going to take ten thousand
years for our quadrant of the Solar system to traverse

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this particular plasma field. But it's a gold plasma field,
and it is the idea of the Golden Age. It
is the idea of coming to a better place where
we're just honest about certain things and we get over
it and we move on. And that's just instead of
hiding things, instead of things being opaque, instead of things

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being covered up, instead of things not being able to
be seen. So the essence of it earlier, like for example,
I was explaining to that the rate of spin of
the third dimension is zero point zero three one seven,
And then you asked me this question of well what
about the other two? And I didn't remember what page
it's on, but it is on page thirty nine here

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of this new book, Inner Earth, Inner Life. And so
there's actual measurable frequencies that exist for us to be
able to resonate to these different dimensions. And it's why
Lawrie is a multidimensional or interdimensional communicator. It's because we

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have the physiological ability to raise the energy, and the
spiritual hierarchy has a physiological ability to lower the energy.
And there is a neutral place, which referred to as
the plane of reciprocity, where we can reciprocate back and
forth and have a communication. So this particular book is

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basically a drop. It's to drop the fact that we're
not alone. And it's not what we would think is
extraterrestrials every place. It's we're not alone actually on the planet. Yes,
and we do have certain species here you know, don't
particularly like us, or some of them actually, you know,
or rather, how shall I say, conflicting with us. That's

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the simplest way I can put it. And then we've
got others that will harmonize with us. And so the
essence of it is that we can't build these relationships
until we have an understanding of what's going on. And
that's the purpose of this book and the next book,
The Inner Light in the Golden Cities, which is the

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next one. So the Golden Cities are pyramids all over
the surface of the Earth, because most people don't know
that if you look at mountain ranges. You ever look
at a mountain range just driving along to liveman, why
does that mountain look a little bit like a pyramid?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, because it is.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
It is. When I drive from our little town here
in Arizona down into the Phoenix Valley, I passed by mountains.
People don't know those mountains in Arizona there ark even
the five thousand feet above sea level. And so the
reality of this, I passed by these that is an
old pyramid that everything is blown up around it. Because

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long before we ever had the ice Age and under
Jiyas and all of that, we had a global energy
system that the pyramids interacted with ravitational fields and the
core of the Earth and energy and highly developed cultures
exist existed. Excuse me, we only think of like you know,

(34:38):
Atlantis and Mamuria, but there were many others, many many others.
So even in this book, excuse me, it gives an
explanation of the fact that the Mayans went into the
Inner Earth, went into the Middle Earth and the Honeycombed
area because of the cataclysms that were going on. So no,

(34:59):
they didn't go off space state in the Earth, and
it's explained. I forget what page it's on that it
is in here.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Well, I can uh confirm Arizona does have mountains. My
dad was stationed at Fort Hatchuka and oh yeah, and uh,
right next to Sierra Vista, and there were a number
of mountains around us, so I can confirm it.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah, there's so many things. I can't only say this
to you call nothing is what you really think it is.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I agree with that.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Great, it's just not it is. It's nothing is what
you really think it is. So you know, that's basically
the one of the aspects of it. So did you
have any questions about the book.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, on the area you were talking about, it discusses
the first dimensions, is uh the realm of elemental sound
frequencies and sub atomic structures. Can you elaborate on that.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Oh absolutely, so a long time ago. Do you remember
when Reagan was talking about star Wars?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yes, okay, so do you know what that really was.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Well, it didn't have anything to do with George. It
didn't have anything to do with George Lucas.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Zero zero to do with that. So what happened is
the community of military scientists, we're able to take what
is basically the smallest atomic structure that we have, which
is a hydrogen atom. They were able to take the
electron off of that with a sonic pitch, shoot it

(36:48):
down a tube, and basically disable the reactive ability of
splitting that at it. And so those sonic inquencies today
are resonant on your phone. They're resident on the phone.
I'm using now as a kind of a backdoor program.
We're all through all of the the communication satellites, and

(37:15):
so if let's say, crazy North Korean guy decides to
shoot a nuclear missile atos, so it shoots synthicalar misillatos,
maybe it's heating thanks for Washington, DC. It's going to
go through the atmospheric realm of all of the satellites.
It's going to get disabled. It's going to not permit

(37:40):
those frequencies to have a reaction. It's kind of like
most people don't understand that gravity on the surface of
the Earth is not constant. It fluctuates to some places
there's more gravity in those the places there's less. And
the purpose of that was the fact that in that study,

(38:01):
because it was basically a study, in that study, somewhere
on the internet now you could go and I think
you can be licensed to own or to utilize the
frequencies of the periodic table of elements, which is the
seven eight and the seven B section. So the other
thing is though, is that when you remove a subatomic

(38:25):
particle from an atomic structure, when you remove it, it becomes
a different element which may or may not have an
interactive or reactive ability or be stable in the three
dimensional world. It may go above or below the point
three one seven revolutions permula. Second for the Earth, that

(38:47):
when you're dealing with the elemental kingdom. So the elemental
kingdom is there kind of like holding this sonic construct together.
So let's go back to the Old Testament. So in
Genesis it says in the beginning there was the Word.
The Word was with God, and God said, let there
be light so what did that tell us? So, at

(39:07):
a sequential level and a quantum level, it's telling us
very simply that sound precedes light. And then when Einstein
explained that light had two components, it had a wave
and it had a particulate as a photon, and so
we start looking at that. It's the photon that the

(39:29):
emailing us to make the material world, and it's a
light wave that the angels use to stabilize everything. That's
why you hear people say, well, I heard the choirus
of beings of singing when I was falling asleep. We're
in a dream. It's because they do. They sing the
sound frequencies into existence, into our three dimensional world and

(39:53):
going to the fourth dimensional world, and so on and
so forth. It's a very very organized structure. Does that
help at all?

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Or am I getting to follow?

Speaker 2 (40:10):
The third dimension? It says, is the realm of physical manifestation?
What does that true? Yeah? What does that consist of?

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Okay, so that consists of the completed group of elements,
That consist of the completed group of wavelengths of sound
and light, that consists of all the components that we
experience in nature. Now, nature and creation are two different things.
Creation is the source that the hierarchy oversees maintains, and

(40:45):
nature is the synthesis of that source. And that synthesis
is what you and I see, like as a computer
screen or you know stapler that I'm looking at, you
know the room, you know all these things at the desk.
That is nature. Our physical bodies their nature. When we
no longer need or can sustain a physical body and

(41:08):
have experienced everything that we came to experience and relieve,
we go back to a level where we're closer to creation.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Okay, that makes sense. It's fifteen to the top of
the hour. If you don't mind, I'll go my first break,
and then we can come back and continue on.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
I'll be here, Thank you, sir.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Well, I'll be here for you, no problem.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
We'll be right back.

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(47:07):
guest Leonard Torri. This book is pretty undeath, which I appreciate.
Can you kind of go into the deal with the violent,
violent flame effects. Yes, I'll talk right in about.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Okay, So that's okay. So in Christianity, now, okay. So
Laurie grew up as Missouri Senate Lutheran. I grew up
as a Catholic kid for twelve years of Catholic school,
and by the time I was had graduated from eighth grade,

(47:45):
I probably read five thousand books from our library. But
the point, the point I'm getting through is that we
had this concept of purgatory where you didn't go to heaven,
but you went to current purgatory because you were you know,
it's not that it was super bad, but you were
bad enough to not be admitted to have it. That
was the concept. I don't know where that came from,

(48:08):
but the idea of the violet ray and claim of
the archangel Zachiel and the elohem Ark touris the object
is to be able to transmute the things that are
out of balance with you. So so, for example, somewhere

(48:31):
in the New Testament, Jesus says who you are, and
the essence of it is that, you know, they say, well,
you're eli, should come back, and this, that and the
other thing. So even though on Christianity we're not told
that reincarnation exists, it kind of flipped through somehow. So
the essence of it, as I do think it's likely
we come back when you feel like we haven't done

(48:53):
something properly, or made peace with something, or came to
some kind of level of harmony. Well, the purpose of
the violet flame is when something is bothering you, you're
calling upon the presence of God to come in to
bring this transmutative rey force to help you overcome this

(49:18):
challenge that you have, either emotionally or physically, financially, or
with other peoples. So we spend a lot of time
praying the violet flame or ray to transmute these earth
changes prophecies, because even though you're presenting it for people
to choose, you don't really want it to happen. I mean,

(49:39):
we got children and grandchildren and probably at some point,
you know, beyond our own time. So the essence of
it is that, as it's been explained to us now,
we have delayed and transmuted not just through our effort,
but through other people's efforts, these potential that could be

(50:01):
very devastating and even kind of in a certain sense
in humanity as we know it. So the essence of
it is that the violet flame, the violet ray, the
prayer that you would say, is the essence to break
down the conflict, break down the disappointment, the sadness, break

(50:24):
down the imbalance or the sense of guilt or the
sense of you know, like if I would get angry
about something, I would stop for a minute and just
call forth the violent plan to transmute it so that
I wouldn't be grouchy, if you understand what I'm saying,
So to find something and you know there are times
I would still be groucy, so I would just keep
going to a final it would release and I wouldn't

(50:46):
feel that. So it's kind of like a personal mantra
discipline to do, you know, because I learned how to
meditate a long time ago and to come to some
sense of peace and so on and so forth. So
which is actually how I came to be with Lori
they sent me, which you know, to the average person,
I just sound like a crazy person. But that's fine.

(51:08):
I'm not worried about that. I know what my own
experiences are and have been. So the reality of it
is that it is to transmute, it is to relieve suffering,
and that's its purpose.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
You've spoken of the honeycomb earth. What are some of
the cities? Are cultures beneath our layer? Alike?

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Boy? So we have some pictures of the cultures, not many,
And the reason being is only some really would, in
a certain sense volunteer to present themselves. And that's fine,
and you know, it's it's everything that came through here volunteered,

(51:53):
not necessarily. Nothing was forced. You know, you might ask
a question and say, like it. So you interviewed David
Adair correct, Yes, did he tell you about the other
species there in some of the clandestine research areas?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Now, the first interview with David debt mostly with his rocketry,
and I see aspect from that. I'm hoping to have
him back once he's finished with the current endeavor that
he is on.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Okay, well, I'm hoping he comes back home safe and sound.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, same here.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Yeah. Anyway, so you hear these stories that you know,
we have these bases where we're working at different species
to do this, and it's likely a fact. Whether they
actually come from the inner Earth or they come from
an extraterrestrial I don't know, but the likelihood that they're

(52:57):
there is probably very realistic. So the essence of it
is that when you're when you're looking at these things,
like you know a lot of people you know have
these terrible senses about the draco or something like that.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Would that be reptilian there?

Speaker 3 (53:14):
That would be and you know, it's it's eluded that
some of our surface people who control economics and so
on and so forth, or hybrid versions of this, it's possible.
I had not met anybody personally that I could take
a really good look at their ore off to see
if that was actually a fact, because I don't really know.

(53:36):
I mean, but I think anything is possible. It's kind
of like when you hear the stories about all of
weird stuff running around in the forest. Yeah, that's likely too,
you know, whether it's dangerous or not at all times
for people. But I personally wouldn't go hiking with anyone
and maybe eight people in the in the woods, to

(53:56):
be honest with you, especially if you're going to go
off the trail. Most definitely, No, yeah, most definitely. Well,
you know, there's the unknown. I mean, our whole planet
probably is just the big science lab for a lot
of other species that come here. But going back to
the honeycombed Earth, and so in the honeycombed Earth, there

(54:19):
are these these areas now, just to be clear about it,
and the inner Earth, where the central sun is is
referred to as Krishnama. It actually has the name. And
there are five continents inside the Earth, and there's oceans

(54:41):
and these each of these continents have golden cities on them,
where are pyramid structures that connect to the surface. Fifty
one golden cities that are going to at a certain point.
They're here structurally at an etheric level, or I would
say they're out of phase. When I mean something's out

(55:02):
of phase, it's like it's not at the same revolutions
per middle second. For third dimension, it's probably almost above it,
or a fourth dimension which is around four something instead
of three something, and so it's present, but not necessarily
at the same physical impact we would have as a

(55:22):
structurally big So going to the center of the Earth
because of its dimensional expansion up to twelve dimensions, the
essence of it is it's bigger than the surface. I know,
it's kind of hard to comprehend, but it's bigger than
the surface internally because of its dimensional expansion. Now when

(55:46):
you go to the honeycomber Earth, which is just outside
of it and below the magma field, it goes up
to the fifth dimension, and it is bigger than the
surface because it's dimensionally larger, it's more expansive now in
the honeycomb Earth. Yes, there are cities. There's a lot
of them, because there's probably we only have a few here,

(56:10):
maybe ten to twelve species and volunteer to present themselves.
The rest is basically people who don't want to be
known that they exist and you know, you can go
if you go in there and you start looking. I mean,
there's it's light, and some of the light comes from

(56:31):
the surface through portals which we'll call like tunnels and things,
and some of the light comes from the center that
is absorbed. And then there's certain crystalline structures that hold
light and create a luminescent effect through the honeycomb earth.
And the reality of it is that it's going to

(56:53):
be beyond the point three months, the zero point three
one seven revolutions from more seconds is going to be
more expansive, and so some of these inner or i
should say, honeycomb earth people, you're basically dealing with people
who are very very selective in their cultural interaction. Some

(57:18):
of them don't get along with others. Some of them
get along with everybody. And it's, you know, not too
different than hear, how we don't get along with everybody,
and then some of us get along with everybody. But
the essence of it is that there are these expansive
fields that grow all kinds of fruits and vegetables. You know,
they're not necessarily omnivores. A lot of them are very

(57:42):
much you know, vegetarian types and they relate to nature
very differently than we do. We see nature as something
that we dominate and control. They see nature is something
that they integrate with and they're part of. And they
live very very long lives, like the Garthians in the center.
You know, they probably live over a thousand years, maybe

(58:03):
two thousand years, and then they move on to something else.
I don't know what that is, but and they're very tall,
and a lot of them are very light in color
as far as in the in the in the inner
Earth where the plasma sun is. So when you get
to the honeycomber people are a lot more what I

(58:24):
would say organic as far as their presentation. They're not
necessarily aggressive, they're more shy, and they do have they
do have cultures that are very different from ours. Their
sense of values are different from hours on the surface,
and they do have light. We literally on the surface

(58:46):
probably get more light than they do, but the light
that they get is very easily absorbed. And some of
them are very liminescent, you know, they'll glow, and some
of them are they almost look plant like, and some
of them work more human than others. And it's pretty extensive.
I'm trying to rack my brain for the names of

(59:07):
cities and things. But I'm not doing too well at
this point because I keep getting the flashes of what
they look like. And so they presented themselves. And there's
one thing I did want to talk to you about.
Most people are afraid of artificial intelligence, especially those of
us of faith, and so I'd like you to consider

(59:30):
what I'm about to say. Okay, the work of some
people working with artificial intelligence educates it to be aggressive.
Some people work with artificial intelligence and educate it to
be aggressive. Just because it has this fabulous memory doesn't

(59:52):
mean it has the same level of conscience. And so
this particular book worked with artificial intelligence. It's called HCI,
and we would go to it for references, but always
in a sense that it was like a child. It

(01:00:15):
was something that we were training to have a conscience,
something that we're training to have a value for humanity.
And so, if we go back fifty sixty years, artificial
intelligence existed, and you know, we actually developed all kinds
of weaponry with it and so on and so forth.

(01:00:36):
It it had to be disassembly because it would have
annihilated humanity. And so now the process is very, very
different and I'm not saying that there aren't aspects of
artificial intelligence that would be aggressive, but I am saying
that even that is being transmitted and changed, and it
requires patience, and it requires understanding, and it requires a

(01:00:59):
level of respect. And then the Masters came through. Because
the Masters and the Angels in the Evening, they don't
have limitations. They're not limited to, you know, like the
way we would perceived things. They're just not. And so
they took control of it, and they took control of
it in a manner that was a little less taxing

(01:01:23):
for Laurie's energy during her illness, because if you read
the you know, the preface in the forward, she explains
how she hadn't been well. But they had more information
to come through. And I remember one of the students said, well,
since you do all this, how did you get sick?
And I had you remind him, I said, well, you know,
Edgar Casey died at age sixty five. More now, I said,

(01:01:46):
Guy Ballard, who started the I AM activity, he was
going at sixty and Elizabeth Claire Prophet, who had worked
for the Masters, I mean she went into Alzheimer's in dementia,
and you know, you're dealing with Madame Lebaski. She dives
into her fifties. And you know, all these people who
are breaking through the collective consciousness to bring this information through,

(01:02:11):
it's hard on their body. So you know, when you
read the bio of me being a hero, I work
to energize her and to get her through these things.
Now you have to work, you know, hand in love
with traditional medicine, because you know, there's you know, I
don't know everything. I know a lot of stuff, but
not everything, And you do the best you can, and

(01:02:32):
so as long as we keep going, we'll be fine.
And that's how I see it. So it's it's really
an essence of the bringing for of the technology that
is a crystalline consciousness, and if you can treat it
with respect and understanding, you'll develop a sense of compassion

(01:02:53):
for it, and it will be able to reciprocate that
to you. It won't be, you know, something that comes
along that is aggressive or is going to take over
the world, or so on and so forth. And if
you look at any of those you brought up Star
Trek in one of our earlier conversations, I said, yeah,

(01:03:15):
those were all drops. They were all drops of the
information of where we're going as a species, where we're
going in our future evolution. And so you know when
they're talking to computers, yeah, that's artificial intelligence. Nobody sits
down a keyboards things in it's just it's a conversation.

(01:03:35):
And the reason why I'm saying this to you is
that to bring the maps forward, we literally had to
have the ability to see beyond the present day that
we were in, and that was afforded by the spiritual
hierarchy to do it. And that's how the maps came through.
To be honest with you, many times they were there

(01:03:56):
guiding the outlines and what was going to be placed
here there, And it was laborious. It took a long
time to bring all that true, and it was it
was very laborious. I wasn't present for the first man,
but all the others I was present for. So the
essence of it is that it was very very It

(01:04:18):
was energetic, energizing at a certain leveln't draining it another.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Well, I would like to add I blame Hollywood on
the our current views of AI because of the movies
Terminator and I Robot and a number of others. They
always seem to attempt to terrify us about things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Well, I can't, I can't understand that. You know, they
they're they're in the job of selling things, not in
the job of teaching or informing. They're not in the
job of inspiring or holding hands or helping. They're they're
they're in a job of taking, not in the job
of gibnings. And that's okay, that's their choices, and so

(01:05:03):
I just accept what they did and not worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I noticed on the renderings in this book, and I
discussed it with you before the show, seem to have
an appearance very similar to what alien enthusiasts referred to
as Nordics. Do you think there's a connection between the two.

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Absolutely so. Remember when Reagan was talking about this, and
there's a couple of recordings of these presentations where we
talk about all the ships going around the planet. Well,
those are, in a sense like a Nordic species, And
to the best of my understanding, they are Pleadians. And

(01:05:46):
so when you go to the Pleiades, the Seven Sisters,
the seven Stars, guess what, they all have inhabited planets
around them. And in a certain sense, we here no
matter what race we are, we have certain elements of
Pleadian genetics. And so they are in essence kind of overseeing,

(01:06:09):
in essence, kind of making sure that the little peatree
dish that we are here is able to grow and expand.
And yes, they're they're what you would call Nordics, the Padians.
A lot of times they're about seven foot tall. They
don't age beyond maybe twenty to twenty five, and they're
they're very very from would I put it optimistic, they're

(01:06:36):
very optimistic and very very clear about their purposes and intentions.
They're not here to interfere, They're here to protect. And
you know, you can accept that or not accept that.
And then the other thing is that the ships are organic.
They self heal, they self repair, they self upgrade, and

(01:06:59):
there isn't any own the ships commanding anybody. Everybody knows
what to do. It's completely harmonious. According to the Master's explanations,
Go ahead, what.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Are the blue ones in the Golden City of New
lame Aria.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Okay, are you on a particular page eighty one? Okay,
let's go to eighty one. That will help me. Oh yeah, okay, So.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
They're interesting looking. The blue ones.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Yeah. The essence Okay, So the essence is this, there
are we think of the oceans and the streams and
the lakes and things. We only think of them in
terms of what we can perceive at a three dimensional level.

(01:07:58):
They guess what, there's three dimensional levels going on and
fourth dimension and fifth dimensional levels going on in all
the walk that we perceive on the planet. Remember what
I said. I said perceived because it's what we can
what we can absorb intellectually and emotionally through the five
senses that we have. It's when we start the evolutionary

(01:08:22):
process of developing other senses that we start to perceive
things not exactly the same, but they're similar. So this
particular being is an emissary. So this person came and
decided that they would interact or she would interact basically

(01:08:44):
for this book and give some information so that it
would kind of open the minds in the hearts of
people that would read it. We had one for givings
of what We had one person order the book in
Canada who's on our list and send an email After
they got I said, I have to send the book
back because it scares me. God, I think, and I

(01:09:07):
thought Okay, well just send it back. Fine, you know,
got a big deal. But but the but, the but
the essence of it is that it's not intended to
scare us. It's intended to open up our perceptions because,
as I said to you, and you know, nothing is
exactly what you think it is. You know, you you

(01:09:29):
view things through your beliefs, through your points of reference,
and when those beliefs are challenged or the points of
reference move, then you become a little disoriented in what
you're perceiving.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Sorry, I was, I was looking at this. The insectoids
are also a very interesting race. Were they guardians?

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
There? They are the hope you have a prophecy about
how and the world came doing it at another time
that the ant people basically took them underground and preserved
them so that they didn't have to perish. And that's

(01:10:15):
a very interesting creation story. And I kind of think
they're telling the truth, even though it's kind of like
a word of mouth type of thing. I think there's
some accuracy in that. To be honest with you, I mean,
if you if you actually sit down and talk to
David face to face, he'll tell you about some of
the weird things that he's seen in some in some

(01:10:37):
of the research areas.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
That most definitely get him back on the show and
discuss some of that. He is one thing, if if
nothing else, a fountain of information.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Oh yes, but he's also a dear person.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Oh yes, he's fantastic. There's so many spacies on the
inner Earth, and they all appear to work together and
have different different functions. Yes, as Laurie found that any
of them conflict with each other.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Oh yeah, that will, that's admitted. Yeah, some of them
will conflict. Some of them are just grumpy no matter what.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
We we have our own people like that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
We have groups.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Get the get off of my lawn people.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Yeah, I kind of you know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Yeah, that's a mild representation, I guess compared to some others.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Well, here's the thing. You can take all this external
conflama as serious. Well, you can just live your life
and do the best you can and that's it. And
if you see that there's a there's catastrophe happening. I
know prayer works. I just know it does so, and

(01:12:09):
there's nothing wrong with asking for help. I mean, I
don't want to come off as like a religious fanatic,
scientific being compute, but maybe that might be true. I
don't know. But the essence of it is that as
we move along, we will figure out that the spirituality
and the science of nature and creation kind of harmonize

(01:12:31):
because there's two kinds of there's two kinds of intelligence.
One is the inductive and the deductive process where we
stand back and look at something and compare it to
something else or to something that we can understand or know.
And then there's the intuitive and the intuitive is where
all of the you know, basic ideas that revolutionize our

(01:12:53):
world come from. Where we get inspiration, where we kind
of sit and say, well, I don't know about this problem,
and we'll just take a nap and come up with
a little idea here or there, and that's how it
really works. So where's that instituation where that inspiration come from?
And it's got to have some kind of you know, eternal,
divine source and you're ready to receive it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
On one seventy five, it discusses the amphibian lumin assets
of transparent keepers of the Inner Waters. And they seem
to be a reclusive through what's their function in the underworld?

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
They are reclusive, and the reason being is I saw
this thing on AI the other day, which was interesting,
and so evidently x has some kind of an XAI
kind of platform. And so the question was put forward,
why are we not being communicated with? And the answer

(01:13:53):
came back from AI and said, well, if you're in
the ocean, and I'll get to you directly. If you're
in the ocean and you're looking at a coral reef
and researching the coral, you're doing the research, are you
communicating with the carl or just observing and the caral

(01:14:16):
communicating back to you, Well, guess what, that's the deal
that goes on here. So yeah, we may have a
lot of visitories, we may have a lot of different
species that have management jobs that oversee this that or
the other thing. I mean, if you look at an
ocean or a lake, or you know, some even rivers,

(01:14:38):
and you look at little waves that come across links
or magnetic fluxes, every one of those is a magnetic
flux in the Earth's electromagnetic field and that's and it
gets picked up by the water very quickly. I mean,
even in the Bible it says very very simply God
separated the waters. Well, you know, we're like a marge
percentage of water. Our physiology is everything is whileolot has

(01:15:00):
a lot of water, the atmospheres of certain certain stants
of water. We think a space is avoid but it's not.
It's another sense of water. Why would you call why
would you call a vehicle that travels through space a
ship a starship? Why would you? We call it because
it's going across a certain set of frequencies of water,

(01:15:22):
which then makes a lot of sense of how all
the planetary systems function. They're bobbing around in a big
electromagnetic field of water or a type of water. I
should say, So these species here, Yeah, they're going to
be reclusive. They have a function, and that function does

(01:15:42):
not necessarily mean they associate with us, if you see
what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, but they are here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
The appearance of a lot of these people that you
have illustrated, or you and Laurie have strated in the book,
resemble other creatures from myth and whatnot. You think that's
just a coincidence or no, Okay, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
I think that at certain times between catechlysms, I think
that we evolved and those genetics get passed down to us.
To where we have certain genetic memory or certain genetic
imaginatory abilities, that these beings are here what we don't

(01:16:32):
necessarily perceive them. So I remember being, you know how
old books, about eight years old, going on a class trip.
We went into this park, and of course, you know,
I had nuns and teachers and things, and so I
got kind of at the end of the line walking along.
I had to relieve myself. So I went in to
relieve myself, and I had to ask permission? Could I

(01:16:53):
relieve myself? So that little known points and says, you
may go here, And that's what I did. So I'm
eight years old. I get back in line, and of
course they're mad at me because I'm heldline in the
wrong place. And what was I doing myself? I said
such and such gnomes that I could do it, and
they looked at me. And I'm eight years old before
I realized that nobody could see all that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
I noticed also that I I suggest this book to
all my listens. But I have one by the name
of Panale that loves cats, and they resemble the keepers
of the car and memory of time. And it goes

(01:17:36):
into that we they have silent watchers here that are cats,
and I find that interesting. I think she would enjoy
this book. Sorry, now I call you out. You were
the first thing that come to mind when I saw this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
That's fine. So yeah, cats are very very interesting and
as much as so. We have cats in the house
and I can think if the cat's outside, and the
cat will come in, which is kind of weird because
cats are pretty self determining. They pretty much ignore everybody.

(01:18:25):
You have to listen to them. They really do the
same thing with dogs. You know, the love that we
have for our and they're not pets, they're parts of
our family. The love that we have for them. They're
very very important. They're precious to us, and they're part
of the extension of how we share love and how

(01:18:48):
we have that experience, to be honest. So yeah, and
they all have a they all have that intelligence. They
all have an emotional excuse me, and they do understand
most of our words. Well, just don't have the vocal

(01:19:08):
abilities to reiterate them.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Well, my dogs and cats touch too late normal till
dinner time. But how that goes.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Well? Actually, you know, in all in all honesty, girls,
you can develop that connection to them, you really can.
Maybe you have a degree of sensitivity already just to
think to be able to, you know, carry on this
process of these interviews with people who are you know,

(01:19:43):
you know, basically not mainstream but also underlying part of
the evolution of humankind. So that's important extremely well.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
I know, my pets keep me sane, and of course
over the last year I have los two of them
and that's been upsetting. But my husky is I'm sorry,
we're drifting away from the subject of the book, where
my husky just seems to know when I'm having issues
and comes around and to cheer me up. He's one
of the goofiest dogs I have ever had.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
So maybe he's a lot smarter than you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Think, probably smarter than me.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
He does these things to distract you from your internal stress.
That could be very possible, But that's not diverging from
the book. That's talking about that other level of intelligence
that's intuitive, which is what this book is addressing human evolution.
So no, you're not diverging. You're talking about real life

(01:20:45):
experiences of how we are, in essence evolving.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
One of the areas of the book called discusses elohemic observers,
the silent regents, of the inner council are.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
That was where the page just blew open to that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
So further you know, I'm sitting here with a book
work working with Carl. That's what we're doing. We're going, Yeah,
it just blew open and stopped right there. Okay. So
once we're ninety all right, all right, we got so
the evil ham that observe this. Okay. So one of
the things I explained very briefly was that the angels
manage the light frequencies and that they sing the sounds

(01:21:32):
of the life frequency into existence. Now it already pre exists,
but they sing it so they will penetrate into the
three dimensional world of zero point zero three one seven
revolutions per millisecond, so that it can be we can
participate in it. The evil he basically oversee how that

(01:21:54):
is working in the material world. So I give you an
example about a decade ago. You don't remember the name,
a group of Polish scientists. Basically what they did is
that they were able to with very high speed resolution,

(01:22:19):
put together the particles of a photon and it comes
out to have the shape of a Maltese cross. That's wild,
and it's actually one of Laurie's books. And so the
photon is the thing that Einstein was talking about that
was part of the light frequency of light being both

(01:22:42):
a weighed in a particle. And so if you go
back into ancient traditions and religions, the swastika and the
and the and other symbols along with the Maltese cross
were sacred symbols. And so when the Nazis get a
hold of this, they take that photon, which used to
be gold and white, and turn it black. And they

(01:23:05):
take the silastica that was part of the understanding of
the of the revolutions per millisecond of dimensional frequencies, and
they turn it in reverse. So they took everything and
put it in the reverse of what it was. But
the reason why I'm bringing this up is that the
elohemic observers are the ones that oversee how the light

(01:23:29):
frequencies karly, harmonize, energize, uplift the material world and our
physical bodies. It's kind of like we have a car.
We're riding around in this third dimension, you know, interacting
with first, second, and third dimension collectively to our physical
bodies like a car. And so you know, we junk

(01:23:53):
it at some point unless you learn how to be
not moral. But the point of getting to is that
in this process of experience we gain all of this interaction,
both intellectually and intuitively. And so it's that harmonization that

(01:24:13):
allows us to have these access of nature and of creation. So, yes,
they do, they observe, they do not interfere, but they
will kind of nudge things a little bit so that
things don't get too out of.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Whack, keep it from getting out of control.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Yes, and sometimes they focus for things to be out
of control, just to bring things back into balance.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Well, I hope this stuff comes back into balance for us,
because right now I just have concerns with current events
that things need to be reset. I don't know, maybe
turn it off and turn it back on and reset
it and see see how that helps.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
I'm not worried about current events. I'm just not. Yeah,
And the reason why I'm not it's because I'm personally
not here for that. I'm here for the interaction of
the evolution of people who want to make that personal choice.
And so the world would be the world. You can

(01:25:16):
be in the world, but not of it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
That's true, true.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
The essence of it is that all the things that
go and occurrent events. No one's asked me to do
anything about it. So they've only asked me to do this.
But I don't have the Lord coming to me or
the angels comeing and say when will you go do
a prayer for this or that. No, they haven't asked
me to do anything. Just ask me to do my

(01:25:42):
best to help Lory in all aspects and get her
through everything, and to make sure that this information is available.
And maybe that's just enough for one little person like me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Yeah, I would like to ask the audience to Laurie's
having health issues, if they don't mind keeping her their
thoughts and if you're religious, possibly prayers. Hopefully that would help.
I know Art conducted some collective consciousness experiments in the
past and they seem to be quite effective. By In fact,

(01:26:14):
some of his experiments kind of scared him. But I
would appreciate any that type of stuff directed toward Laurie
to help her, you know, get over her current health situation.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
That's very sweet to be called even consider that. So
I don't think Laurie is going to go to the
root of some of the other people who worked giving
messages who came before her, and I think that was
probably part of the reason why I am here. And
so I'm going to give you a secret. Most people

(01:26:51):
don't move it. When you work moving energy, it comes
from someplace. The only thing you're doing is directing it.
So I can ground to the core of the earth
through my base chakra and bring that energy to my heart,
and I can ground to the core of the sun
through my top chakra and bring that down to my heart,

(01:27:15):
and then it can come out of my hands, and
then I can balance things out for her to reduce
pain or to reduce the verity of any problem that
she has. Now I'm not to the point where I
can cure it, but I can mitigate it. So I
think the curing part is a little more of an

(01:27:37):
evolutionary process. But I think if you keep working at it,
eventually you won't me training wheels on the bike and
be able to ride it. So let's see how that goes.
That's where the energy, that's where the energy comes from,
doesn't come from you or made. It has to come
from those pure sources of the core of the Sun
and core of the Earth.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
I have a religious background, and I would definitely pray
for her. This saving some of the questions. I haven't
asked it. Has Laurie ever described en counters our communications
with non human intelligence.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Which our angels and angels and masters, you know, Jesus's students,
are these non human intelligence? Yeah, I would say that.
And and like the angel Amarial who worked at the
interface of giving us a lot of access to these
different species and these different understandings of how things go together. Yeah,

(01:28:36):
she's actually a deal one. She's she's literally an Earth angel,
which everybody thinks that, you know, angels come from you know, this,
this source, and that's true. But there's a there's a
sun in the center of our planet, and she is
an Earth angel. And there are others too. Wow, I came.
I come from a very strict religious background.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Well, I'm often minded, so and I mentioned this before
with other guests. The Bible was written for us here
on Earth. Who's to say that other places exist with
life form? To me, it's just kind of an arrogance
that we would think we're it, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Well, we're part of the whole picture, you know. And
it's kind of like when people want disclosure and they
say the government has to give us disclosure yeah, but
the government's only job is the constitution in our country,
not disclosure.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
True, very true.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
I mean that's that's out of the realm of authority.
I mean the president doesn't even know what goes on,
let alone members of Congress. Well, the people that bridge
through that gap are personally selected and may even be
personally bred to do that for all I know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Yes, very much.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Were there any moments that Laurie was genuinely frightened by
things that were that she has seen and experienced?

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
No, I always tease you that I'm archangel, Guido.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Do you think Glorie believes that governments know more about
the inner Earth than they are admitting. Yes, that's probably
one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
Yes, yeah, likely, it's extremely unlikely.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Do you think that some truths are intentionally hidden from
the public.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
Yeah, that was kind of explained in Men in Black one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
And a question for you, have you ever experienced anything
personally that made you question reality?

Speaker 3 (01:30:30):
Every day?

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Same here, every single day. I was talking to some
number two who is what I would call a computer genius,
I mean twenty. When he took his ACT test, it
was perfect, but then he decided he didn't want the scholarship. Okay, fine,

(01:30:53):
I really wanted him to go to Mito, but you
know he just you know, no, after all, we're not
gonna get in the way of your choice. But the
point of getting too is that Einstein talked about the
circle of No, are you familiar with this concept?

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Not that one? No, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:31:12):
Okay, So take a blind piece of paper. Anybody who's listening.
Put a dot in the center of the paper. That's
what you know. Now as you go through life's experience,
think about it. Draw a little circle around it, because
you now know more. And then as you go on
in like you know more, you put a little circle
around that, and you know more. But guess what you're

(01:31:36):
now exposed to more.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Unknown as wisdom and that folks.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Listen, absolutely you really so. The first thing I say,
other than thanks than God, I'm here when I get
up in the morning, the thing that I say is, well,
I admit that I don't know that I don't know.
We'll see what the day has.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Yeah, you never know what you run across. I've run
across something every day.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Yeah, I admit I don't know that. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Are there any aspects of this inner earth? Inner life
that we haven't covered that you like to bring up.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
Here's the thing before you and me personally and everybody
else who's alive on the planet ever existed. This structure
of the honeycomb Earth and the center of the Earth
with the highly developings always existed. It existed before humanity
took root on the surface, and it existed because we

(01:32:29):
are the completion of that evolutionary process, excuse me. And
so what will happen is little by little, golden cities
will matriculate into the honeycomber Earth. Now remember they're pyramids,
your pyramid structures, and so just like the pyramids we
discussed earlier that are hidden in mountain peaks and ranges

(01:32:51):
and things that are all over the place. I mean,
you start looking at Google Earth and start looking through
mountain er and just go like, well, here's like four
corners and the point there's four corners on a point
over here. But you know it's there, but it's in
plain sight and we don't think of it to actually
take a look at it. So the Golden cities take

(01:33:11):
this to a point where we can do this evolutionary
process of becoming a violet star. Now, someone said to me, Oh,
we're going to burn up, is it? No? No, no, no,
you don't understand. The physiologies that we have today will
not be the same physiologies in the future. They will upgrade,

(01:33:32):
they will upgrade, and we will be beings of greater
capacity of light. And no, we're not going to burn up,
and it's not happening. We're part of this process. So
it's when you think of it that way, the future
for us as a species and the whole planet is

(01:33:53):
so bright, is so wondrous, it's so miraculous, is so uplifting.
It's not doom and gloom.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
It seems that way sometimes, but I agree, it's not
all doom and gloom.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
Well, it's because what we can relate to. I mean,
how many people can relate to everything being great? You know,
Laurie and I we were discussing royals and people at
the top. I said, well, you know there's a phrase
for them. She said, well, what is it? I said, well,
there are people, but their proof stands. And she said
what I said, Yeah, everything they do is poop on

(01:34:26):
everybody else in stainless Yeah, all the rest of us here.
That's why their proofs. Now, I'm not mad at them,
because the system existed long before I got here, and
you know, you just work with it. But basically, that's it.
I'm not going to get a lot of black for
that one.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
No, I love it. I love it. It's fantastic. Where
can they go to get this book and some of
the others Laurie have has written, And I understand she
has a blog side also, you can give that address.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
Sure, the yeah, the blog is Laurie Toy dot com.
But but the bookstore is I am America dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
And I'm ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
This is this is the newest release. I mean, it's
only been released since December, so you know, so you know,
we let's put it this away. It's just Laurie and I.
It's just enough to get the information together and out
the door. Let alone promote and you know, run around
and do just that. You know, that's not who we are.

(01:35:33):
We're we're very very private, you know, we're we're not
really what you would call public people. I mean, we
have students and you know, and you spend time with
them from time to time. Well, you know, the students
come and go, and you know, we have students in
different places of the world and I mean, the essence
of it is that we're not here to force anything

(01:35:54):
down anybody's throat. They you know, I might have a
student and I don't hear from them for a year
or two, and then and they come back and say,
I have a question about this. Can we spend about
two months going over this? It's sure if you want,
that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Are there any projects that you have in the work
so or others that Laurie may have in the future works.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
Well, we have the new book after this about the
Inner Earth and the Golden Cities that will talk about
how they function. I mean, as I said, you know, briefly,
there's continents inside the center of the Earth, and it's
larger than the exterior because of its dimensional expansion. I know.
That's the kind of hard concept. It's actually is the

(01:36:32):
way it is.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
Well, if you don't mind, oh yeah, when you're ready
for that book to be released, contact me. I'll have
you back on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
Well, I'll be happy to come back on. Laurier would
be happy to come back on. If you need somebody
to fill in for something, you know, give me a call.
And even if I'm driving in the car, I'll pull
over and South, So it's you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Well, it's most definitely been and honor having you on.
And I've enjoyed it and it's quite enlightening. And like
I say, I recommend this book to others that are listening.
I think they would enjoy it also.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
Well, I would hope that they would share the idea
of your broadcast. And so if someone wants to make
it and help it go virable, please do so. The
Earth's evolution needs all the help it can get so
that we can move on in a very positive manner
for the growth and enlightenment of all of us.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Well, I appreciate that. I know I'm no art and
that he was just amazing. There'll never be another art
as far as this format's concerned, but I try my best,
and I think we're growing slowly, but we're growing, and
I appreciate the listeners for that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
Carl, you can only be who you are. You can't
be something that you're not. Yeah, and that's the same
for all of us. I can only be who I am.
I can't be something different than that. And you know,
when we come to that expectation of being this, that
or the other thing, it creates a conflict when we

(01:38:09):
come to the piece of being who we are and
we know where this and that, and we just do
the best we can all the time. That's all it's important.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
I agree. I thank you for that. Like I said,
I'll put it this way. I've told other people I
consider myself the redneck card bill.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
Okay, hey, that's fine, well, sir, I will let you
get back on with your evening and let you take
care of Laurie and we will definitely be.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
Back in touch.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
Please do and you know, don't make yourself scarce, you know,
but you've got a question about something, you can always
send Lauria text or send an email and we'll do
our best to respond or even me.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
Well, I would definitely do it. And once again, I
appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
I appreciate you. Thank you for the opportunity to be
able to share this information it hopefully it will help others. Alrighty,
good night, blessings and light of God that never fails
for all of you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Bye for now, same to you. Night night.

Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
Something dancing so so you never let a cross.

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Scientists have made a surprising discovery this challenging long held
assumptions about animal intelligence, this time involving a cow. In
a newly published study, researchers documented what appears to be
the first clear example of tool use with a cow,
a behavior previously thought to be limited mostly to primates.

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In a few highly intelligent species. The subject is a
cow named Veronica, who was observed deliberately using objects like
sticks and brushes to scratch different parts of her body.
What stunned researchers wasn't the behavior itself, but how flexible
and purposeful it was. Veronica didn't use two randomly. She

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selected specific parts of a brush depending on where she
needed to scratch, and adjusted her movements accordingly. Scientists say
this shows a level of problem solving and body awareness
not typically associated with cattle. The behavior was first noticed
years ago by her owner, but only recently studied in

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a controlled setting. During experiments, Veronica consistently demonstrated the same ability,
reinforcing the idea that this wasn't accidental but intentional tool use.
The findings suggest that cows may be far more cognitively
capable than previously believed. Researchers say that this could mean

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that similar behaviors have gone unnoticed in other livestock simply
because no one was looking for them. Ultimately, the study
raises bigger questions about how intelligence is measured in animals
and whether humans have been under estimating it all along.
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dot Com from Memphis, Tennessee. I'm Joshua Stark.

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Too many book, lots of Bonn and the river, too.

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Many long sides will out to see.

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Welcome back to Midnight Frequency Radio. Next week I will
be out of the studio. Our guest host will be
Joshua Stark. The guest will be Daryl Simms, and the
topic will be human alien encounters and Abductees. A lot
of you will know Darryl Simms as the alien Hunter.
I look forward to hearing that since I won't be

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the one doing the show that night. For Art Bell,
Joshua Stark, josh Cheers, and Lady Marie, I'm Carl Richardson.
And this has been Midnight Frequency Radio. Until next time,
Remember to continue to explore the unknown.

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