BONUS EPISODE: Ancient Mysteries REVEALED: Humanity's NEW WORLD ORDER, Annunaki, Nelphim, Legendary Giants & More!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Next Level Soul podcast, where we ask
the big questions about life.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Why are we here? Is this all?

Speaker 3 (00:09):
There?

Speaker 4 (00:10):
Is?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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(00:59):
you this, because is this idea again of the body
being the antenna. It's just it's such a simple idea.
I can't believe I've never thought about this in this way,
but you've shined a light on it, at least for me.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
If you start analyzing the.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Avatars who've walked this planet before us, the Yogis and
the masters, many of them, at least that we know of,
had a very basic diet, a very simple, I mean,
for lack of a better word, organic diet, back in
the days before the chemicals, before all of the.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Things are going on.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Do you believe that that, in addition to their own practices,
allowed their bodies to be optimized to a level where
they can receive, not only receive information, but elevate their
frequency at a certain level. Because you're let's say you're
drinking alcohol a lot, and hey, I'm not a guest
anyone taking a sip of wine here or there, maybe
even a shot if you like. But generally speaking, we

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all know that's poison. I mean, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
It's poison. It might be fun poison, but it's poison.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Nevertheless, there is a deeper, a negative charge to eating
or drinking or conceiving the kind of food, and it
brings your frequency down. It's almost impossible. I can't say
for sure, but it seems to me that just basic
on basic math, putting in that much kind of negative,
negative frequency, let's say, by the foods you're eating, and

(02:19):
let's say they're chemical laden, and all of that other
stuff versus having much more of an organic, closer to
the earth diet that you can raise your frequency a
lot easier than if you're eating poorly, eating processed foods,
eating all of that stuff. Does that make sense to you?

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah, you know, it makes tremendous sense. And people ask sometimes,
you know, what does an optimum diet? I mean we
could go.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Through Oh it's forever. Yeah, sure, yeah, you could do.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
This when the way I typically respond to that there
there are a number of books from our biblical canon
that were edited in the fourth century. You've talked with
guests about this on your Awesome, Awesome program. I've listened
to some of those conversations and I've learned a lot
from some of your guests. Some of those books were

(03:09):
written by the Ascenes, and the Ascenes are believed to
be the scribes for the Dead Sea Scrolls. They're not
sure if they actually originated the scrolls, but they definitely
pinned the version of the scrolls that is found in Kumran.
The scrolls may have come from somewhere else, and there's
a lot of controversy about that. Right now, DNA study
of the parchment is showing that the parchment is not

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from the Middle East, so that's one of the big questions.
Did the parchment come from somewhere else? And then it
was they wrote on the Middle East, or did the
scrolls and the writing where they created somewhere else brought
into Kumaran. So whole conversation there. But the Ascenes are
believed to be those scribes, and some of the Asscene

(03:52):
texts are records of the words of Jesus of Nazareth
as his disciples are asking him this questions that we're
asking each other right now. And there is a conversation
where they said, Master, you know, what is it that
we use to nourish our bodies? And what he said
two thousand years ago is so clear, so clean, so precise.

(04:17):
It's the way I like to answer the question today.
And he simply said this. He said those foods, he said,
the foods that are alive and come from the life
of the earth give life to your body, and the
foods which are dead will create death in your body. Therefore,

(04:37):
eat foods that bring life to your body. And that's
that's pretty straightforward. The closer we can get the food
to its natural source, the more enzymes the more alive,
the enzymes, the life force, if you will. There is
a pronic component to food. To real food is very
different than foods. I mean they they have There are

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foods on the grocery store shelf that have never seen
the light of day, that they have been completely created
inside of the machine and processed. Will they fill your
stomach so you're not hungry? Will the answer is yes?
Are they giving you the nutrients that give life to
your body? That's questionable depends on what they are. So
I think the food is important, and at the same time, Alex,

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I think it's important we don't want to give our
power away to the food because we are more than
that food. It's the feeling that we have, the fear
of what we're eating, or the love of what we're eating.
Something very interesting happens when you begin to think about
the things that we're talking about. From this perspective, I

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think probably the greatest level of mastery that we are
asked or invited to attain in this lifetime is to
protect and preserve the gift of our bodies, the gift
of our humanness that we are led to take for
granted and lead to discount and the young people are
being taught that we are actually a flawed species, that

(06:07):
we need technology, we need AI and computer chips in
our brain and chemicals in our skin. That's where our
young people are being taught. So I think as we
embrace the deep truth of what it means to be
human and the gift of what humanness means, and all
the ways that science is supporting, that really interesting things

(06:28):
begin to happen. And one of those things is that
the foods that we used to be drawn to, we
may not be drawn to them anymore because they just
don't taste the same, knowing that they're not good for us.
And it's not like an effort. It's a natural consequence
of embracing a deeper respect for the gift of life

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and the gift of the human body. And I say
that intentionally it is a gift because the science tells
us very clearly we are not the product of darwin
idea of evolution. Evolution. As a geologist, as a degree geologist,
I believe in evolution. I've seen it in the fossil record.
When I was in school, we recovered evolutionary processes and

(07:14):
fossilized remains for plants and animals and insects. But the
theory breaks down when it comes to us humans because
something happened two hundred thousand years ago and there were
not just one, but a series of mutations that didn't
happen slowly gradually over a long period of time. They
happen in a very compressed period of time, and they

(07:36):
are vital mutations that give us our humanness. We've talked
about these in some of your earlier programs that our
viewers may not maybe have seen those programs. But chromosome two,
perfect example, is the product of fusing two pre existing chromosomes,
fully intact chromosomes together, and then going through and adding

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or deleting or silencing genes to stabilize that fusion. And
you say, Okay, what's the big deal about chromosome two, Well,
it's what's responsible for our neocortex, about eighty percent of
our neocortex. This is where our mirror neurons come from.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
This is where the.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Ability to tune to this field of divinity comes from.
Chromosome seven gives us complex speech. It's the reason we
can sing and have a conversation, whereas a chimpanzee that
is only separated by two percent of our DNA ninety
eight percent of our DNA we share with a chimp
two percent difference. You're never going to hear a chimp

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singing led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven. I don't think, or
if you.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
Do, I want to know.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I want to know about.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
It absolutely, and book that book.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
That guy on the show because he's going to make
some money, he is.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
And I would love to see that. But the these
kinds of mutations scientists tell us cannot happen internatural conditions.
There was some I'm as a scientist, I have to
say there's some kind of intervention. I can't say with
scientific certainty. Who are what the archaeology tells us. The stories,

(09:09):
whether you're talking about Sumerians or you know, Navajo, or
Aboriginals or the Inca you know, or the Christians or
the Islamic traditions, they all tell the story of how
it happened. Not one of them says it's the product
of slow gradual change over a long period of time.
All of them say there was some kind of an intervention.

(09:31):
That's not scientific. What is scientific is that these mutations
exist and we can now identify them. The scientists say
that when the odds of something happening are ten to
the four hundredths, so ten to four hundred zeros, when
the odds of that are ten to the four hundredth,
that that's something is impossible. So if you had a

(09:51):
lottery ticket and they tell you know, it's ten to
the four hundredth or the odds of this, you might
as well just, you know, probably forget it.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
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Speaker 5 (10:11):
The scientists say that the odds of these mutations happening
are ten to the sixth hundredth. So if ten to
the four hundredth is impossible, ten to the six hundredth
means it's more than impossible that these are from natural processes.
There's some kind of intervention. We were tweaked two hundred
thousand years. We've only been here for ten thousand generations.

(10:33):
That's really not that long. Ten thousand generations. You figure
a generation is about statistically, it's about twenty years what
they consider a generation for reproduction. So we've only been
here at ten thousand generations, and we were given the
gift of this body through those mutations so that we
can access and refine our relationship to these divine what

(10:57):
we call divine principles give us our humanness.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
So Greg, let me ask you then, if if.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
We weren't, if we.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Did not evolve in the way that that science told
us originally, and that we were messed with in one way,
shape or form. This sounds very reminiscent of the Sumerian story,
one of the oldest stories and known through through humanity
at this point of the Onaki and this kind of
story of that kind of you know, going coming into us,

(11:31):
messing with us, playing with us. This concept of junk DNA,
which I find fascinating because if anybody who's ever been
just watched his nature, you know, there's nothing junk involved.
Everything is a beautifully, perfectly orchestrated dance. But yet we
have junk DNA in us. Can you explain if and
I've talked about the nauseum on the show, but can

(11:55):
you touch a little bit upon what that what that
story is and your point of you went on that
story and how it interreacts with us.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Yeah, I am happy to do that. I was blessed
in the nineties and two thousands, I toured with some
of the most brilliant researchers and scientists. Ed Mitchell, former
former astronaut six man to walk on the Moon. Michyokaku
physicist who I don't know if you've had him on

(12:27):
the program, but he's a brilliant protege of Einstein's theories
and works and string theory and taking it to the
next level. And Zacharai Sitchen. I had the opportunity to
to tour with him in Egypt and.

Speaker 6 (12:43):
The UK.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
He was a brilliant man. He was a brilliant scholar.
He was the first that really took the time to
translate the Cuneiform scripts at Cuneiform is a very unique
I'm going to call it a writing system. It's not
an alphabet. It's not like you take a bunch of

(13:05):
Cuneiform symbols and put them together to make a word.
Each symbol can mean its its own word or its
own concept. And he was the one largely responsible for
formulating the idea of bringing it to the mainstream of
the idea of the Ananaki of Neiburu, the planet thirty

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six hundred year. His theory was that there is another
planet in our solar system that we are I'm hesitating
and how deep we want to get into this that
we are publicly not aware of that some researchers are
aware of it. And the reason we're not aware of
it is because it has an orbit that is different
than the ecliptic of the orbits Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Urnest, Neptune, Pluto,

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They're all kind of when you look at them in
relationship to the Sun, they're along the same the same
line the equiptic, and this Nebrew orbit is an oblong
orbit that is offset and it takes about thirty six
hundred years to make one complete orbit, and every thirty
six hundred years, according to Decision, he felt like they'd

(14:17):
stopped by, check on us, see how things are going,
and then go away for another thirty six hundred years.
That and I think there's a lot of truth to
what he was saying. He and I I don't agree
necessarily with every facet of his theory. In this sense,

(14:38):
he believed that we were created for the purpose of
being a slave species. I think it's certainly possible, and
the evidence supports that we have been enslaved in the past.
I don't know that that is the only purpose, if
that's the reason for our origin. So it was in Anaki,

(14:59):
according to Sitien and others since then, that were responsible
for the genetic manipulations that we see that we see
today the archaeological evidence of the Aninochy among the mysteries.
And you and I have talked about this a little bit.
It's something called the King's.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
List of.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Rulers on the Earth from the periods of time that
Sitchin is talking about, it goes back about four hundred
and little four hundred and twenty eight thousand years. I
believe I don't have I wasn't sure we're going to
talk about this, and I don't have that with me.
I'm doing this off the top of my head, about
four hundred and twenty eight thousand years. What is very controversial,

(15:42):
the King's List is a it's a stella. It's a
Cubic stella that lists all of the rulers. What's interesting
is from from the time of the Great Flood, which
they accurately depict in the King's List, forward into into
what we call history as opposed to prehistory. This King's

(16:05):
List is right on. It identifies the rulers, their names,
the beginning date of their rule, the end date of
their rules, so we know how long they were ruling.
It's right on. The controversy is before the flood, it
gives the names of the kings, and the beginning and
the ends of the dates are astronomical numbers. They're in
thousands of years, tens of thousands of years for one ruler,

(16:30):
and so scientists are saying, well, they made this stuff up,
you know, because nobody can rule for thousands of years.
If people can't live for thousands of years, they're assuming
that these were humans, and I think that's a big
assumption to be made. There are theories that say those
lengths of time were not in Earth years, that they

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were in Neburu years, So that would help to explain
why those lengths time. Their year around the Sun is
much longer than our three hundred and sixty five day
journey around the Sun, which is what our year is
based on. So it could be that before the flood
they were basing those times on their planet's timeframe, and

(17:18):
after that the flood on Earth it was based on ours.
But the genetic manipulation, the way that this is where
it's called forensic DNA, you take what we have today
and you reverse engineering, you go backwards and say what
had to happen to get to the DNA that we
have today, And what had to happen is something that

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we could not do until the two thousands, when we
had what's called genetic engineering through editors like Crisper Crisper technology,
which is a gene editing. Our DNA appears to have
been gene edited. So the question is who had gene
editing technology when we appeared two hundred thousand years ago,

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and that the truth is, and scientists don't like this,
The truth is, we don't know. We don't have the answer.
But here's here's where I've worked with scientists all my life.
I was in the corporate in first in academia, then
in the corporations, and now as an author and a
researcher and Alex there's a huge difference. I'm going to
make a comparison here. There's a huge difference between taking

(18:22):
discoveries that are made revelations and forcing them to fit
into a pre existing story, and taking new discoveries and
following those discoveries to the story that they tell. It's
a huge difference. The tendency is for scientists to take

(18:45):
new discoveries, including genetic manipulations, including evolution, any things, and
force it into Darwin's theory of evolution. It's like a
square peg in a round hole.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
We've all heard that.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
Now, you can get the square peg into the round hole,
but it's never going to be a good fit. There's
going to be places, empty spaces where it doesn't fit well.
And that's exactly what's happening right now. The evidence doesn't
support Darwin's theory of evolution, and it implied now the
genetic evidence implies some kind of an intervention, some kind

(19:21):
of a genetic manipulation. This is where science is stuck
because most scientists say that science is not equipped to
go down that road because if you say there has
been an intervention that implies an intentionality, that implies a purpose,
that is a very very different story. So the good

(19:44):
news is that there's a new generation of academics, a
new generation of college professors that are a little bit
more open minded. The old guard is holding onto the
old story and they're dying off. And the new generation,
they are healthy skeptics, but they are open to new possibilities.

(20:06):
And I think I think This is the way science
works because the evidence until we could look at the DNA, Darwin's.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Idea, you know, that was it.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
And it doesn't discount Darwin's idea for all other forms
of life. We're not denying evolution. We're just saying it evolutions.
Something else happened when it comes to humans.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Well, you've spoken a lot about the nine dimensions and
the different dimensions of reality. As I've studied over the years,
in the Yoga traditions and the Hindu traditions, they also
talk about these levels of dimensions. Can you explain to
the audience what those levels of dimensions are? We'll be
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(20:49):
back to the show.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, of course there are infinite dimensions, yes, and it's
not only nine dimensions are the ones that we can
actually relate to in the aspects of creation. But then
you can have infinite dimensions like you could possibly imagine.

(21:13):
The thing is that a dimension is basically a measurement
you go through. You know, it's like it's like you
have something and you have different points of view from
which you can perceive that something like if you have
a sphere, you have three hundred and sixty degrees, so

(21:34):
three hundred and sixty dimensions of that reality. If you
have tetrahedron, then you have six lines and four triangles
that will shape these six dimensions with other four dimensions
in the shape of trinities, so you can have infinite

(21:58):
amounts of the men of something. We tend to confuse
dimension with realms, and that's the Christian or Semitic tradition
of thinking. We are in the third world, and then
there are angels, and then you have archangels, and then
you have this. So usually we relate dimensions with realms,

(22:22):
but it's not the same thing, okay, And dimension is
actually different points of view of the same reality. So
I usually describe the nine that are the basis of
our existence because we all come from unity, and that unity,

(22:44):
in order to exist, needs to express into another one.
So it creates polarity, which is the second dimension. His
second dimension is the one that manifests a third point
because these two, when they move, they create a third aspect,

(23:06):
which is an axis between these two. So that's the
third dimension. So you have three points of view now,
and these three points of view are moving one around
the other, so that creates the fourth dimension, which is time.
The fourth dimension then starts to generate energy and light,

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which is the fifth dimension. Then this shape can change
or switch its position, which is the sixth dimension. Then
the sixth dimension can transcend and manifest itself into another
totally different reality, which is the seventh dimension. And then

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you have all the infinite possibilities of those changes, which
is the toroid for the eighth dimension. And it all
comes back to the divine, which is the essence or
the very idea of why everything exists, which is the
ninth dimension that takes you again to the one. So

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the ninth dimension actually shaped an exahedron, which is a CUE.
So when you have a CUE, you actually encoded to that.
You have the merkaba, which is two tetrahedrons. If you
expand the CUE, you have the dodecahedron, If you fabtilize
the dotacahedron, you have the extahedron, sorry the icosahedron, And

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if you go to the core of all the system,
you have the altahedron. So basically, the ninth dimentioned opened
the door for the creation of the five main solids,
the geometry that generates everything in our reality. So That's
why I used to describe the ninth point of view

(24:58):
of this real because everything that exists is spaced in
this five So then.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Let me ask you this. There's so much I've heard
and please correct me. That we are we living in
the three dimensional world? Then there is we're all evolving
too a fifth dimension? Is that true?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Or how about your perspective on that.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
We actually don't live in the third dimension going to
the fifth dimension? Yeah, we are. We perceived the third
dimension and we are starting to perceive the fifth dimension. Okay,
so actually it's not that we are moving from one
to another. Is that we are amplifying our point of view?

(25:40):
That would be actually the reality. It's not that you
are going to leave the third mension. So if the
third dimension you have to die.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
So then the so this other side that our souls
go to when you were making your blueprint, and where
souls are and where your guides are in all of.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
This, I mean, that's the same place.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
What what dimension is that?

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Or is that a realm My guys usually are in
the fifth dimension, like most of the guides.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Because archangels send masters.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Masters. Yeah, masters. Usually the fifth dimension is related to information,
so it's all the pure energy. But that pure energy
doesn't have time neither space. So because it doesn't have that,
that's why sometimes when we connect with them, they send

(26:36):
us information and data that we cannot handle. Now, it's
like we are giving this to you, and you say,
but why how I have no idea how to do this?
And we tend to to get desperate because for them,
there's no time or space. So maybe they can tell

(26:56):
you when you are eight years old that you have
to solve something when you are sixty eight and so,
because for them it's just that is information, and for
us it's an emotional that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
So it's kind of like our hardware is just not
capable of handling the software or the information coming in,
like the computers like, yeah, it's like the operating system
is just not can't handle it.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Yeah, totally. It's basically that it's like trying to to
download all the information that we have today in the
Internet in a computer from the eighties.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Right, it just couldn't even process a basic web page.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Back then.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
So then the.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Realms of the angels and archangels are that at a
hot and again higher it's not, but in our perception higher,
meaning a six dimension or higher than that.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
The angels, demons, and all these creatures usually can be
moved from the fourth to the fifth dimension. Then you
have the archangels in sixth dimension, serophins in the seventh dimension.
So we can kind of relate spiritual beings to the dimensions,

(28:11):
but they are not usually like that. The way we
can perceive this, for example, is you yourself in this third dimension,
you're a disperson, but like me Mathias here, but in
the fourth dimension, my expression of myself could be an angel.

(28:37):
So the being that I call an angel when I
see an angel might be just myself projected. It's not
that it's another one that leads in the fourth dimension
besides me.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
It could just be a projected because our souls can future,
our souls can project in multiple places at the same time.
It's kind of like you see in your higher self.
I've heard that often that you like meet your higher
self or connect to your higher self. It's just you,
but it's a higher self.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
It's like a mirror reality. It's like a mirror reality.
So you are in the center of a mirror, and
you're not even the center. You believe you're in the center.
But actually you are a reflection of someone else. So
you are a reflection in the third dimension of someone
that is in the ninth dimension that has so many
reflections that they look different. So you think there are

(29:28):
different people, but actually is yourself in different dimensions. So
so so.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
We usually call our guides to people that we think
they're outside ourselves, but actually it's our own mind in
the fifth dimension talking to us in the third dimension.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Would it be a mind, Would it be a mind
or a consciousness, because it wouldn't be like technically our mind,
it would be our consciousness or awareness.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
It would be an awareness. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
So, but your guides aren't just you. You actually have
other spirit guides around.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
You as well.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
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Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, it could be, but sometimes maybe it's a higher
versus spirit, like a master in the fifth dimension that
in this reality is your cat.

Speaker 8 (30:22):
So that's terrified. I have cats that's terrified that they're
the higher dimension. If they're my masters, which many to
be argued they probably are. I'm the one that cleans
up after them. I can feed them they are my master.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Well, yeah, the thing is that you will know if
you're higher master from the fifth dimension in the third
dimension is the cat if you are if you're very
like you know, like for sure, my masters are cats
in this life because because they are very like tough
and for some other people they are so such a

(30:58):
loving thingess. So must be goal than retrievers or something.
So I don't know, but but it could be. It
could be anything in the third dimension, because there is
nothing in the fifth dimension that is not also projected
in the third dimension in a version.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
It's a version of it here.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
In the constant version of everything. So everything that exists
in the third dimension has this aspect in the fifth
dimension or the sixth or the seventh, and everything that
exists in the fifth dimension has something to be anchored
in the third dimension. That's why sometimes when you want
to speak with an archangel, for example, you might go

(31:41):
to a mountain, So you go to a mountain which
is an apple, which is a very huge spirit. So
you go to the anders, for example, and you speak
to the Anders, and you communicate with the Anders that
in the fifth dimension or the sixth dimension. It could
be maybe I don't know, Mikhail or some archangels. So

(32:08):
everything in the third dimension. It's an anchor for something
that exists in another dimension.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
And based on your research, what is a more accurate timeline,
based on the stories that you've heard from the indigenous
and your research in general.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
That's a long question. Let's see. Well, it's funny because now,
and you're right, academia takes forever to reach the point
where they're comfortable and changing the story. You go back
one hundred years ago, they're still trashing each other when
they come to an accepted conclusion that this is how
the world was. And then someone comes along and says,

(32:44):
actually this new evidence to show that actually that's not
the way it was. They'll kill the guy and then
fifty years later they'll say, actually he was right, but
we're going to take credit for it. And we're getting
the same problem today as independent researcher. So there's nothing new.
But the thing is the technology is now catching up
with the myth. So if you look at the Hopi

(33:04):
traditions of the last three Ice sages, which are actually
pretty well recorded with the Hope myth. You look at
the building text which are written all across the walls
of the Temple of Edfu in Egypt. You look at
the Tamil culture and all the vaders, which basically go
back fifteen thousand years if you just pay attention to
the text and read the four thousand year cycles that

(33:28):
it took for each academy to write down that information.
So once you start compiling these things, you begin to
realize that the ancestors, they survived three cataclysms, and we
know that there are three ice ages, so we got
the young driers, the younger dryers, and the older dryers.
So basically, when you start looking at the description of

(33:48):
how every single world fell, and we're pretty good. We're
pretty sure now that the beginning of the younger dryers
was definitely caused by meteoric strikes. Because we found nanode
diamonds spread all around the world, which is the only
way to get nanodiamonds is to have a very high heat,
very high impact meteoric structure hit the earth. We found

(34:10):
the craters, We found the impact sites all across from
North Carolina all the way to South Carolina. Some there's
over a thousand craters, and you actually got the direction
from where the actual meteorites came from. It's still there
to this very day. On a sunny day, flying over
North Carolina, you can practically see what they call the

(34:30):
Carolina Bays. So we know these events happened. So once
you start looking at the fact that these stories were
written by people whose ancestors survived these cataclysms, and you
look at the information that we're getting now from archaeology, history, climatology, oceanography,
and overlay them, now you begin to realize that, yes,

(34:50):
there were three periods through which the world changed very,
very differently to what it looks like now. And you
add to that the fact that also when the Egyptians
were telling Solon, who basically was a Greek historian who
happened to be over in vacation in Sais, and one
of the priests said, you know, you Greeks are too young,

(35:12):
wake could you have been a round as long as
we have? And we've seen the sun changed position in
the sky four times. We've seen it rise where it
now sets and set where it now rises. And at
one point we experienced the Earth be upside down, and
I don't mean a pole shift. Something big hit the
earth and the Earth actually flipped over. So and of
course he takes that story back to Greece, and within

(35:33):
two generations some guy called Plato says, hey, that I'll
make a great idea for a story. The thing is,
the Egyptians gave him a specific date for nine six
hundred BC as the date of the end of the
last Ice Age and the big cataclysm. You move over
to the Yucatan, which is full of Egyptian language, by
the way, and in fact, there's a several pictures at Ushmahl,

(35:57):
and I believe it's Oshkintok, an Egyptian priest who's visiting
over from Egypt. He's got the headdress and everything, and
they've got the story in their particular history that says
in nine six hundred BC, and this at a very
specific dates, we get the arrival of these gods from

(36:17):
a sinking islands in the middle of the Atlantic called Atol.
So you get the atol ants popping up and these
sort of people called the It's who are the magician priests.
They were very big on names back then. It's all
it was very concise language. But they're the ones who
basically gave us quite so quite Cuckocan and Yitzamna, who's

(36:37):
the one that gets left out. He's the most interesting
of all of them. But they're escaping what was essentially
a drowning continent. So the point of the matter is,
you got the same date given by the Maya, and
on the other side of the world you got the
Egyptians giving you exactly the same date. So you can't
have made this up because basically the two countries weren't
technically supposed to be sharing information. So that yeah, I

(37:00):
do believe that the story is much much more transparent
now with the overlaying of hard evidence as on top
of mythical evidence. The two who begin to coincide. How
further back it goes, no one really knows, because if
you go to the Indian vaders, they start talking about
things which go on for four hundred thousand years. Now

(37:23):
you've got a problem here because there is absolutely nothing
left evidence to back that up, and you have to say,
perhaps it happened, because if we're talking four hundred thousand BC,
and we're talking cave people, they didn't have language. As
far as we know, they would never have been able
to write such extraordinary things about vimnocraft flying through the

(37:43):
sky to obliterate an entire city and come back fatigued
in the same day. It's just not feasible. These people
would not have had the imagination. And the only thing
that makes sense is the people that were around form
a parallel civilization, and just as the Ice Age comes
to an end eleven thousand years ago, their civilization is

(38:04):
now on the way and hunt the gatherers are under
up now. So this is what was happening from my research,
is that you know, this story of this missing civilization
is missing because it was already on its last legs.
By the time the story gets picked up by our ancestors,
they're already on the way out and we're now the
next civilization of the way up, and they taught us

(38:25):
all the accouterments of civilization. So that's about as far
as I've got in terms of twenty five years of research,
just digging around in strange languages and strange people and
looking at what the archaeologists have to say about this
and linking the two, and it's beginning to make some sense.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
From my understanding.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
The it sounds very similar to what the Yogi Yuktashwa
said in the Holy Science, which is about the Yuga cycles,
which is this twenty I think it's twenty four thousand
year cycles or twenty six thousand. It's twenty six if
I'm not mistaken, right, And you start off basically enlightened,

(39:05):
as as as humanity's consciousness is enlightened, then we start
to go downward, downward, downward till we hit the lowest point,
which he argued was the dark ages, and then from
there we start to come back up. So we are
currently in an upward swing. Hence the technology growing as
fast as I mean, isn't it amazing when the last

(39:27):
hundred years, how much we have more technology in the
last hundred years than we did in the last one
hundred thousand years according to.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Exactly the timeline.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
That's pretty insane.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
I mean yeah, And Terrence McKenna picked up on that
back in the eighties about the sudden jump to a
new level of order happening almost by the month, and
he predicted that forty years ago, so he's not far off.
I mean, we are getting new evidence of new information
and new ideas coming up almost instantaneously. You can't keep
up with this stuff.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
No, you can't.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
And like with a I alone, what AI is doing
is just like every day, every other day, something new
is coming. I mean, it's just moving so fast from
when the Internet showed up in a mass way to where.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
We are now.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
I mean that was the late nineties, so we're looking
at twenty five thirty years maybe of like SEYI it
because I remember when the Internet showed up and I
started using it with the AOL discs and you know
all that stuff back in the day.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
So you get your free way to get on the internet.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
That it's been thirty years, that's nothing. We'll be right
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Speaker 3 (40:47):
And I'm actually an AI representation of the real friendly
Silver by the way, he's actually gone shopping. It's so real.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Actually, I'm actually in the Fresh Riviera as we speak
right now. We laugh, but we laugh.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
That will happen. That is happening.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
We're getting to that, we'll get to that place probably
within the next ten to fifteen years, that the technology
will get that good. But it's really remarkable how quickly
things have changed. And I also think i'd love to
hear your thoughts is that historians always look at the
past through the lens of the technology we have today.

(41:25):
So they say, well, if they didn't have cell phones,
and they didn't have the internet. They must have been primitive,
but they'd never taken into account. And I'd love to
hear what you've come across the technologies that they in
the past, our ancestors might have had that were far
beyond what we have, but in a different way. An
under better understanding of magnetism, a better understanding of gravitation,

(41:47):
the force of gravity, the understanding of how to really
hone the Earth in a way that is working with
the earth and not raping the earth as we do today.
You know, I had a conversation the other day with
I forgot his name. He's the the archaeologist or researcher
who came up with the concept of the Geza pyramid

(42:10):
as a power station, and Christopher done, yes, thank you.
So I had Christopher on the show and I'm speaking
to him, and in that episode, in that conversation we're talking,
I'm like, isn't an amazing that we are technology seems
to be growing, but we are still literally burning coal
for the electricity that is needed to run the technology.

(42:33):
So all the technology is moving at the speed of light,
but the energy creation is barbaric. I mean we're still
talking about late eighth.

Speaker 6 (42:42):
We're burning.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
We're burning wood essentially, just a higher level of wood.
So it's pretty miraculous what's going on.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
But I'd love to hear your thoughts about that.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
It's all relative, though, isn't it. I mean, yeah, he's
the old day is. The thing I kept hearing again
and again was that the gods were different from humans
and so far as they had complete control and understanding
of the laws of nature, and that's what made them
a god. It's not some invisible force sitting on a
throne somewhere. A god is a real person who says, hey,
I want to understand everything there is to know about water.

(43:13):
Water is very interesting. I want to know what happens
when it freezes, when it boils, the difference between the two,
and how we can actually we can do with that
element at both ends of the scale. The moment you
understand how water works in all its ways and forms,
you become a god. Because a god is nothing more
than the spiritual sort of element that surrounds any objects.

(43:34):
It's the soul of any object. So a plant has
a god, a tree has a god, and so forth.
We call it a soul. So that's what the difference was.
They had complete understanding of the laws of nature. So
for them from you when you hear three different people
on the opposite side of the world saying, yeah, that
building over there with the big stones, yeah, that was
built overnight, and they use sounds or vocal commands to

(43:57):
move the stones through the air, and that literally the
stones were pushed by a little kid up to the
top of the hill. And once you think that's a
funny story, twice you think that's a coincidence. The third
time you hear it from someone else, you think, Okay,
now we're talking about an actual event that was witnessed,
and it was written down because it was so incredible

(44:18):
to people who probably were hunter gatherers, and they'd think, wow,
look at that. I was just sitting here eating a
rabbit the other day, and today there's an entire pyramid there.
That's incredible. I'm going to remember this, make sure that
everybody knows how it was built. Now you fast forward
this in the nineteen eighties, Princeton Engineering nominallyse research departments
who did some incredible experiments, peer reviewed experiments looking at

(44:43):
that lovely fine line between science and mysticism, and they
said they asked the same question that I did, was, well,
why do they choose those enormous rocks to begin with?
Why not use manageable sizes of rock like the Romans did. No,
we're going to do a two thousand pounds block of
stone which no crane on Earth can lift. Why because
they could? So what is the big thing about this rock?

(45:07):
And I said, well, the thing about the rocks is
they used to get moved sometimes from four hundred miles away.
There's rock where they could have built a pyramid, but
they didn't. They went four hundred miles away to get
another kind of rock. So what is it about this
rock and all the other rocks to used to build
a megalists around the world that are different that they

(45:29):
had to go through this laborious process in which to
do well. It turns out it's the type of quartz.
It's the same type of quartz that was used for
early radio receivers. So there's something about the pato electric
quality of this type of quartz in these stones. And
then you got the iron and the magnetites. That's the

(45:52):
three elements that are very common to all the stones
in all the megalypts around the world. So Princeton basically said, well,
let's find a bunk of this particular type of crystal,
we'll put it in the tube and let's do like
the ancestors did, let's throw sound at it. And they
experimented week after week. They will change the amplitude and

(46:14):
the frequency of sound, because you've got to get the
two absolutely right. And there was there's one moment and
they used to be on their website back in the
nineties where they had a video back in the days
when they had filmed. We talked about this before we
went on there, and it shows quite clearly that they're
hitting this thing, this little lump of crystal, with sound

(46:35):
and it gets levitated. So now we know that the
stories were true. We just now discovered that technology. And conversely, yeah,
we may have lots of technology around today, but I
also noticed there's a huge rising stupidity. We have become
morons because we've given all our power. And I'm looking
at this little thing next to me, this little black rectangle,

(46:58):
about this big which I have to carry around with me,
despite the fact that I had a perfectly useful landline.
But people are insisting that I'm have my cell phone
with me all times of the day. I don't know why,
because I won't pick it up anyway if it brings
I can't be a reach I can't be reached, and
I refuse to be dominated by it. So the thing is,

(47:21):
I was watching with sort of well, I don't want
to make fun of this, because when you're in a hurricane,
it's not funny. But when the hurricane was going for
New Jersey a few years ago, I was watching with
a bit of slight sort of detachments how the local
people could not figure out where to go get fresh water, milk,
and some bread because they were so relived in that

(47:44):
little box. To tell them that the seven eleven is
two blocks away, their memory has been completely rased. Whereas
you know me, which I don't use myself, and for
that reason, I know that when the lights go out
here in Portland, Maine, which is quite regularly when we
have bigger winter storm, holms and people the whole town
disappears to their second homes in the countryside, which is

(48:05):
kind of ironic because they haven't got power there. I'm
the only person here that has candles burning in their
living room. I have matches. I have fresh water, I
have things that I can eat in a can. We
don't need to be heated up. And I can survive
for a whole week without trying that hard. And I
know where to get milk, and I know where to
get bread from because I memorized it. So yeah, we

(48:27):
might have all this brand new technology, but I find
so many people have become dominated by it and they've
given their power away. So in a sense, and I
think I can't remember who. I also came up with
this observation, we're having a problem with names today, aren't we. Anyway,
it was a very interesting character and he said, you know,
it's funny because next time we get a meteorite hitting

(48:48):
the Earth or all the power goes out, which is
not really that difficult. All you need is the sun
spot cycle to hit the right portion of the planet,
like I happened in the Eastern Seaboard in Canada back
in eighteen seventy eight. The Carrington event knocked out telegraph
wires for a whole two weeks. People suddenly didn't know
how to survive because there's no electricity to keep their

(49:13):
homes light, and you can't light the stoves and I said,
you know, it's funny because at that moment, the people
that we call savagers living in the middle of the
Amazon would be the only survivors on this planet because
then there were to fish, Then they had to set traps,
then they had to collect rainwater, and that's the point.
Suddenly they're at the highest level of civilization. But they

(49:33):
don't have the technology, no, but they have their local technology.
So it's all relative, you see, in terms of age
and position.

Speaker 9 (49:40):
So the arc of the Covenant was this box. It
had certain dimensions. It was made of acacia wood. Acacia
wood is the tree that is pretty prominent down there.
I was just in Aswan with my Tst. Stefano and
we were looking, you know, at these islands that were
on there, and all the trees there were acacia wood.
The acacia wood tree has DMT. We start talking about
the burning bush. Burning bush was a kasha okay, So

(50:06):
were there psychedelics involved for Moses that he had this
you know, godlike experience.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
That's interesting.

Speaker 9 (50:13):
The burning bush was DMT okay and it's a well
known DMT. In fact, I have this new geometry set
coming out that's made of akasha wood boxes please don't
burn the boxes. They're really hard to make, Okay, But
I wanted to be something really special like that. So
but Akasha wood has this unique property. It's like kind
of like an ayahuasca and there are ceremonies that you

(50:33):
can have with a kaisha.

Speaker 6 (50:36):
It's a full on ayahuasca type ceremony in yeah, and
I know lots of people have done it.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
So it's made out of this wood, yep.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
And then what's inside of it, So what's.

Speaker 9 (50:45):
Inside of it is subject to a lot of speculation. Yes, right,
it's supposed to house the power of God.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Okay, we'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now to the show.

Speaker 9 (51:02):
Okay, now this box, Yeah, let's go back to the
story of Moses for a moment and then we'll edge
into this part of the story. So the box has
these perfect dimensions, the perfect dimensions with the polls that
fit it.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
So they had to.

Speaker 9 (51:15):
Carry it a certain way, and only priests that were
of what they call the you know, the Cohen family, right,
which these would be the sons of Levi, right, So
the sons of Aaron and Levi. This whole story where
you've got aarin who was the mouthpiece for Moses because
he was a better order, he was a better public speaker.
And so Aaron's line was blessed, right, and this was

(51:38):
the levitical tribe was blessed to be the the not
only the rabbis, but the high priests that would actually
be allowed to work in the temple, right, and the
ark and the ark of the Covenant was and until
they built the temple, which didn't happen until around one
thousand BC, which would have been with Solomon, right though,
So you know you've got Solomon and you've got Saul,

(51:59):
David and Solomon, right, And until the temple.

Speaker 6 (52:03):
Was built, they had this tabernacle. Right.

Speaker 9 (52:05):
So when Moses escaped from Egypt and they followed him
to the Red Sea, and then you know, the pharaoh
Ramses was like his army was sort of destroyed because
they got stuck in the Red Sea, just like in
the Ceesibild de Mill movie.

Speaker 6 (52:18):
Right.

Speaker 9 (52:20):
What happened was no one really knew why all of
a sudden, because Ramses had said, you can go get
out of here.

Speaker 6 (52:28):
We're tired of you.

Speaker 9 (52:29):
Remember, they already sent the pestilence and the plagues, and
they already sent the locusts and the frogs, and they
already and the firstborn son, right, and the loss of
the firstborn son of Ramses as well, so he's like,
just go, just go. Well, something happened that made those
you know, dynastic Egyptians run after Moses say no, come back,

(52:49):
We're not letting you go.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
What was it?

Speaker 9 (52:52):
Well, interestingly, the Ark of the Covenant proportions and dimensions
perfectly fit inside the sarcophagus of the Great Pyramid.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
It's a perfect match.

Speaker 9 (53:03):
Okay, So there are many that pause it, and I'm
including you know, I'm in that list that the Arc
of the Covenant was actually in the sarcophagus and it
was the conductor for the Great Pyramid made of gold.
So the box even though in the book right, it
tells the story in the Bible about how they have

(53:23):
to they're told how to make the Arc of the Covenant.
And there is more than one arc, by the way,
more than one arc. There were probably in several different
pyramids around the world.

Speaker 6 (53:31):
The Arc of the.

Speaker 9 (53:31):
Covenant was supposed to be made of these proportions. There's
two and a half cubits by one and a half cubits,
and it had these polls that had to go on it.
You couldn't touch the arc, and the outer surface of
it was gold.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
Well, gold is one of the best conductorss right, and
it had the.

Speaker 9 (53:47):
Unique attribute as well that at the top of it
there were two angels, and these these cherubim angels had
wings that basically stretched out to each other, just like
in the movie. And there are four faces. If you
could reach in there and look at it, there are
four fits on each of the angels faces. And the
four faces were the face of a man, the face
of a bull, the face of an eagle, in the

(54:08):
face of a lion. Now, if you know your zodiac,
you would know the face of a man is Aquarius.
You would know that the face of the bull is Taurus.
Face of the lion, of course is Leo. You might
not know that the face of eagle is Scorpio. These
are what we call the fixed signs right in the zodiac.

(54:28):
They're the ones that sort of mark the positions of
the zodiac the most right, they're the.

Speaker 6 (54:33):
Center of them.

Speaker 9 (54:34):
They're the center thesis also of each of their element relationships.
So basically the great pyramid is also built with that orientation.

Speaker 6 (54:46):
A great Pyramid.

Speaker 9 (54:47):
If you haven't seen this film, there's a great film
called The Revelations of the Pyramid. It's a French film
that's translated into English. You can find it on Gaya.

Speaker 6 (54:54):
Now. I think they take it off YouTube now.

Speaker 9 (54:57):
It's probably the best show that there is that explains
a thesis of what the pyramid actually was, and they
present it the entire Geze plateau as a giant clock
that's based on the zodiac, and they show the orientation
of each of the sides where they have the orientation
of the entrance of the Great Pyramid because it's Bull Mountain,
is the bull the north side and that's where you

(55:17):
enter the pyramid from, So the.

Speaker 6 (55:19):
North side's the Bull.

Speaker 9 (55:21):
The south side would be the Eagle, but actually it
starts off with a scorpion. Then the scorpion transforms and
gets redeemed into a snake, and the snake transforms and
redeems into an eagle, and then that redemption process continues
to turn the eagle into a phoenix, and then the
phoenix becomes Eventually the phoenix becomes the Ophiucus, which is

(55:44):
the thirteen zodiac sign, and it's the serpent bearer, so
it becomes the story of Asclepias. Right, Sclepias is the
one who saved the life of a riot when he
was stung by a scorpion, which was really just scorpion
venom is the most expensive drug in the world right now,
thirty nine million dollars per gallon. And it's an ego death.
It's like eboga or like bufo or any of these

(56:06):
things that people are all doing right now to experience
ego death. This is just a more intense way of
experiencing ego death. And that's what I believe is the
actual metaphor story of the story of Orion Oriyan and
Ofhuchus are just opposite each other in the night sky, right,
They're exactly opposite each other. So the orientation of the
Great Pyramid being according to the zodiac is matching the

(56:27):
description in the Bible in the Book of Ezekiel of
the Ark of the Covenant, also having all four of
those faces on it, because they represent the four sides
of the walls in the Great Pyramids King's chamber. That also,
you asked, what we discovered in there shows the zodiac
of all of those but not just the twelve zodiac signs.

(56:48):
It shows the in total forty eight zodiac science because
the Egyptian year was split into thirty six segments, so
ten days for each segment. You know, they would look
at Okay, yes you're in Taurus, but there's a subset
of tourists, and the subset of tourists is Orion, Ariga
and Eridonus right, and so these different aspects give you

(57:10):
more specificity.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
So if you look at the.

Speaker 9 (57:12):
Degree of where you're born right on your birth chart
or your natal chart, you could actually find out that
there's way more complexity. It's like the next dimension of
the zodiac. And this was the Atlantean calendar also, so
you could find out, like I was born in the
week of Orion, right, May sixteenth is the week of
Orion in the Vedic calendar, right, so that means I

(57:38):
would take on certain Orian characteristics, right, And that's always
had some resonance for me. So it was, you know,
I never knew that that was a thing, right until
I started studying all this stuff. Well, this Deacon of
Astrology has been around a long time, and all the
walls are etched with all thirty six of the symbols

(57:58):
of each of those constellations and so on the west
wall that's behind the sarcophagus, there's a big lion's face.

Speaker 6 (58:04):
You've seen it.

Speaker 9 (58:05):
I saw it, right, You've seen it, and you actually
saw it on Apple Vision Pro on my new you know,
sort of virtual reality game thing that I created.

Speaker 6 (58:13):
What do you think of that?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
By the way, it's pretty bad ass. I had to say.
I was, I was, I was, I was. I was like, wow,
this is kind of ridiculous. It was pretty amazing. I
was there. It was pretty amazing.

Speaker 9 (58:22):
It's it's it's like you're there and you come out
of it, You're like, whoa, we live in a simulation.
As soon as you take that off, you're like, we
live in a simulation.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
There's no question.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
Think about where this technology go in five or ten years.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
It's like one hundred, just one hundred years from now.
Where do you think that's going to go?

Speaker 6 (58:36):
I mean, smell everything, it's all gonna be there.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
It's gonna we're gonna go. We're going to the Holidack.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
You know. Google just came out of this whole new
thing called Google. Nos. Have you seen this?

Speaker 9 (58:45):
Oh no, it can smell. It's like Shazam for like smelling.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Of course, can you believe that? Of course, no, no,
I have no doubt, no doubt.

Speaker 9 (58:55):
There's a possibility it was an April fool's joke when
I saw it, but I looked it up all over
the so they really took the April fool's joke really far.
And then I ran out of time to find out
if it was legit or not. But here's the thing.
The room is basically giving us a map of time,
and it's oriented backwards, so it's not just giving us
the map the way that it should go clockwise and counterclockwise.

(59:19):
It shows us the two directional nature of time. See,
we go forward in procession of equinox. So if we
just think of the twelve zodiac signs, we go from
Capricorn into Aquarius, and then Aquarius into Pisces, then Pisces
and Arias and areas into Taurus, and tourists into Gemini,
and Gemini into Cancer and Cancer into Leo. Right, and

(59:39):
then you go into Virgo and Libra right, and you're
going through this whole cycle. But by the same time
that we're doing that, we're also going backwards. If you
look at the sky, don't look at your clock. Look
at the sky instead, because what happens is as we
move from Aquarius into Pisces on a month to month basis.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
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And now back to the show.

Speaker 9 (01:00:15):
We're slowly, but by the same degree of proportion, moving backwards.
And this is why we just went on an aon basis,
which is two thousand years. Sure you Teshua, twenty four
thousand year cycle, right, So each of the AONs is
two thousand years, right, and within that there's fractals that

(01:00:36):
then have these trends, like sometimes people like gold and
sometimes they like silver, and sometimes they like you know,
metals and stuff like that. It's matching all the collective
consciousness as well. It's all part of the simulation game
that we live in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Is that why gold is a little bit higher price
now than I said.

Speaker 9 (01:00:51):
Before, because it's more popular again because you know why,
because we're an Aquarius now and what is our opposite
sign from Aquarius Leo?

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
And what does Leo represent? Gold?

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Does he?

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
Yeah? The sun?

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
So where's gold going ten thousand?

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
Gold's gonna go up.

Speaker 9 (01:01:09):
It's gonna go way up, right, because the dollar is God,
I believe dollars is gonna go way down.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Well yeah, that's I mean, anyone can see that coming.

Speaker 9 (01:01:16):
Well yeah, I mean, this is why bitcoin speculation has
been so big this year. And I mean we could
spend a whole different podcast just on that. But but
the point is that we go backwards in time by
the same degree.

Speaker 6 (01:01:29):
Like a Mobia strip or a cliinb bottle. You know
what a climb bottle is.

Speaker 9 (01:01:32):
I don't climb bottle would be like a bottle like this, right,
but it has a spout that comes out of it
and that it wraps around itself and then comes back
into itself.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:01:42):
A Mobia strip would be if I had like a
piece of paper, a strip of paper, and I was
gonna make a little bracelet like we did in elementary school.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
If I twist.

Speaker 9 (01:01:50):
It five hundred and forty degrees right, and I put
her on my wrist with that twist in it, it
looks kind of like DNA. DNA's ambia strip is a
Mobia strip. So you twist this strip. And then if
I have a little matel car right, the little ones
that the kids play with, and I twisted a thing

(01:02:11):
like that and I could defy gravity, I could let
the car go, it would end up going on both
sides of the paper, okay, because of the twist. This
is the nature of the Mobia strip. So what this
basically shows is that time can loop back on itself.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
So I'm gonna stop you there for a second because
this is something I've wanted to talk to you about.
I was talking to some channels the other day, some
scientists the other day, and this concept of there is
no past life, there's no future life, that all lives
are happening at the same time. That concept, which just
been explained to me, and I've spoken about it on

(01:02:49):
the show, how you can kind of wrap your head
around that, But there was a scientist or researcher who
told me that, well, imagine that we're looking at it.
Linear time is actually stacked on top of each other,
so it's all happening at the same time, and quantum
jumping is being able to jump between between with ease

(01:03:12):
because we're not going back or forward. It's all at
the same level, but just at different times. And then
we get into the spiritual aspect of it is that well,
that's the over soul living all of its lives at
the same time. And when you were talking about what
we were talking about earlier, of it looks like someone
in the Great Pyramids someone came in and did it afterwards,

(01:03:35):
or we were talking about our future selves, our future
selves coming back to talk to us in a way.
That's a form of quantum jumping. I talked to someone
yesterday who was transported, not a vision, not felt felt

(01:03:55):
like physically her essence or conscious of transport back to
Atlantis where she was in the room and started to
explaining everything to me. And I was like, I mean,
it was pretty mind blowing. So what are your thoughts
on what I'm just talking about this idea of I've
experienced it, so tell me.

Speaker 9 (01:04:14):
Tell me I experienced it once. I've always been able
to see the future.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:04:21):
When I was nineteen years old, I was a Mormon
missionary in Korea, and I'm not Mormon anymore, but I
left when I was thirty years old. But I had
a dream in the middle of the night. I woke
up my missionary companion and in my dream, my girlfriend,
who was going to BYU at the time, was driving
a car. It was a base to Yoda, and she

(01:04:43):
was driving. It was around Christmas time, So she was
driving home to Nebraska from Utah, and which is like
a long straight drive through cornfields. She fell asleep at
the wheel. One of my friends was in the front
seat with her, and she rolled the car into a ditch.
In the dream, I saw the license plate number. I'd
never seen the car before. I saw the license plate number.

(01:05:04):
I saw blood covering her and the other guy, and
I saw that he broke his neck, and I was
so worried about it. And as a missionary, we were
not allowed to call home. You couldn't call home. That
was sort of the whole thing, Like you're there for
it's like being you're in a monastery. You know, unless
you're gonna leave, they're not gonna do anything. And I
wasn't gonna leave. So I called the mission president and
I said I'd like to call home, and kind of like,

(01:05:28):
I don't know if this has happened or not, and
he's thinking, Okay, this kid might just be crazy. Well,
I didn't call home, and I found out about a
week later because they didn't want to tell me. On
Christmas Day, they sent me a letter that the same
exact thing happened nine hours after the dream.

Speaker 7 (01:05:45):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (01:05:47):
So it was a like exactly down to the license
plate on the car, and the car I had never
seen before, and the guy died.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
And so what is that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Is that because I was a dream though, that was
a dream.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
That was a dream. So dreaming a form of quantum jumping.

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
Yes, it can be.

Speaker 9 (01:06:02):
It can be, right because once you dreams can be
connecting your subconscious. Right, it's from your subconscious, and your
subconscious is where you're closest.

Speaker 6 (01:06:14):
To your oversoul, right, that's where.

Speaker 9 (01:06:17):
And so the way that the oversoul can communicate with
us is through synchronicities and through dreams. That's one of
the most common ways until we learn how to master
the balance. That's necessary because we have to be able
to achieve a high degree of hemisynchronization of our two
left and right brains, which is really the alpha and omega.
And once that happens, then the KI comes in.

Speaker 6 (01:06:38):
And what is the kai.

Speaker 9 (01:06:39):
The ki is the optic nerve that connects the right
eye to the left brain and the left eye to
the right brain.

Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
It crosses over at the.

Speaker 9 (01:06:47):
Pituitary gland puitary gland. This is called the optic chiasm,
and then it connects back to the occipital lobe. So
what we're seeing inside of our brain, there's no photons
in there. We're just doing an interpretation from what's coming
into our retinal receptors of what photons it would be
picking up then flipping the image upside down, because for us,

(01:07:10):
if we actually could see what we're truly seeing, it's
an upside down image, just like a camera right would be,
and then it's getting interpolated.

Speaker 6 (01:07:18):
There's no photons in my.

Speaker 9 (01:07:19):
Head right that you would think there are that are
just from the ambient molecules and the and the electrons
that are inside my brain right, or the elements that
are inside my brain that make it up. But basically
we are doing an interpolation of a matrix simulation already
inside of our brains. It's just happening at the back

(01:07:39):
of our brains. So when we finally find this balance,
then we get into this what's called heart brain coherence.

Speaker 6 (01:07:47):
The heart brain coherence is.

Speaker 9 (01:07:48):
What mystics, what teshua, what all the Babajee, all of
these guys became masters at They learned how to balance
their feminine energy with their masculine energy and bring them
so that they're no longer in conflict one with another,
and even comes down to the point where you have
to finally realize, you know what, Maybe my rational mind

(01:08:10):
will never fully grasp my irrational mind, but it can
value it, right, Like I may never fully understand the
reason for irrationality. But look, I do love the curve.
The curve is something I've been eternally fascinated by.

Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
It's like, oh, it's so beautiful.

Speaker 9 (01:08:29):
It's like life would be boring with only straight lines.
So I've learned to value that. And so therefore, the
feminine aspect that might seem totally emotional to the left
brain has an incredible value and intuition. It allows people
that have the balance to think and feel at the
same time. And when the heart thinks and the mind feels,

(01:08:49):
that's when the river of wisdom flows, and that river
of wisdom is your Kundalini life force. So this is
when it starts to light up your chakras. Right, And
this is all the stuff I know you've studied because
all the books you've read, right, But this is just
maybe a different way of looking at I came at
it more from the Western esoterica than from the Eastern,
and then I went back and studied Eastern, but it's

(01:09:11):
still the same thing. Hermetic wisdom is the same as Eastern.
You have hermetic alchemists that were in China as well.
They're all doing the same thing. It's learning how to
transmute the metaphor of lead into gold, and that metaphor
is taking the negative experience of our suffering. And once
we finally have the context of the meaning behind the suffering,
and it makes us more divine. And it also makes

(01:09:34):
the one even more aware of itself because it's dividing
itself into all of our eyes of perception so that
it can perceive itself through our unique eyes of perception.
Nobody with my eyes has ever seen the world before,
and no one will ever see it again. Because I
have a unique parentage, I have a unique conditioning bia set,
I have a unique you know, environmental factors.

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
I have unique world.

Speaker 9 (01:09:53):
This play stage that we have, this background of we
all have like one big oversoul I believe is represented
by Orian constellation and it's the story of the hero's journey.
Orian is the hero. We're all in our own hero's journey.
That over soul has many names. We could say it's
Yahweh for some the lesser yahweh for others, Metatron.

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
For some foth.

Speaker 9 (01:10:18):
I mean, you can go to a whole list of
different names that this could be something. There's one hundred
and eight names, something, there's seventy two names.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

Speaker 9 (01:10:35):
They're all the same because there's only one thing. There's
you and your experience and your u inverse around you.
It's just divided light so they can perceive itself and
then we finally learn our oneness and we come back
together as one, and that's also joy for source creat
What do you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Know about the origins of arguably one of the oldest
known cultures in the world, because the Vedic texts are
some of the oldest texts that we and they say
all six thousand years of course four or five thousand years,
but the Indians and the Hindus and the priests state, no,

(01:11:17):
this goes back ten thousand years, fifteen thousand years. This information.
So what information do you have about that culture, how
they built the pyramids that they built. I mean, that's
a whole world.

Speaker 6 (01:11:32):
Listen.

Speaker 10 (01:11:33):
What's interesting about that culture and all these cultures is
that they are so ancient. Right, So I'm getting ready
to do some research on different temples, and one of
them is in India, the Kailash temples, right where they
took a mountain and carved a mountain from the outside
going in to create those temples. Insane, yeah, but I'm
comparing it to the Lali Bela temples at Ethiopia done

(01:11:56):
the same exact way. They carved an entire mountain to
a temple from the outside going in and then apple symbol,
same exact technique. Jordan, same exact technique. So I'm going
to document these temples and show the tool marks and
the techniques all identical. Again one master architect, just different
belief designs, and you begin to see that these people

(01:12:17):
were under the same too, digital had the same knowledge
as the master architect that came and helped, you know,
kickstart civilization. In other words, that one person didn't build
all this stuff, but taught this knowledge to other people.
When you look at the Indian text, you discover in
some cases, in some areas that I've read, it could
be one hundred thousand years old, two hundred thousand years old.

(01:12:37):
But that for me matches also against some of the
ancient Samerian tablets referencing a time frame of around four
hundred So this is really super super duper ancient information.
And when you begin to analyze some of the tablets
the Samerian, you begin to realize that these people that
they were calling the they call them the savants, the

(01:12:57):
heroes of all the Savants, they were different looking people.
In other words, they look like different races of people.
And I was like, man, this is pretty incredible. Not
only did they look like different races based on the
descriptions of them, but then they all went around the
planet and duplicated civilizations or built civilizations. And that's when

(01:13:18):
I started getting an idea. Let me research the genetics
of the human being and find out why are we
different races, because we should all be the same race.
And then I found that there was a two percent
variance in genetic material between races of people and even
modern day genetsis say, for that to happen in only
two hundred thousand years is impossible. It should have taken

(01:13:39):
millions of years to get black, white, Hispanic, blah blah
blah blah blah, all these different races, you know, And
so Asian and so what they realized was that this
is an artificial mutation. I go back to the tablets again,
my reference point, and I realized that the reason why
we have different races of people is because these beings

(01:14:02):
were different races, even one married one from a different planet.
So what they did was they ruled over the say
in India, particular region of the planet, and they would
genetically brand us to mark us. This shows up again
in the Bible. So we're genetically branded. Black people are

(01:14:23):
not black. I'm not dark brown because my ancestors worked
in the sun. That's stupid. Just the dumbest thing I've
heard of.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Their son in America, their son in China, I mean,
their son everywhere.

Speaker 6 (01:14:36):
I hate to say, it's crazy. It's crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:14:40):
The first time I read that, I laughed, but I
found out it's not because of that. It's because it's
a genetic brand. Caucasian genetic brand. We found the genetic brand.
According to the text, the first Caucasians came out of
the Caucasus mountains right that's over there by Russia. So
we're talking about this genetic branding that occurred and the
Indians they had a genetic branding. Will that's why those

(01:15:02):
people look at a particular way, the Asians the same thing.
It's pretty interesting. So this genetic branding occurred. But these
beings also had some blue people, and they also had
recorded blue people in Egypt. So all of a sudden
you see these different colored people and Osiris it was
green raw, not Amorah, but Ra was blue. And then

(01:15:25):
you have the Indian beings or the Indian gods that
were also blue, right, And so it's this crazy thing.
And the deeper you look, you realize, man, these were
a multi racial group of beings that came to this planet.
They were all harmon and so that in some way
had made a pact to do a breakaway civilization on Earth,

(01:15:45):
and they worked and colluded together for some time before
all these crazy wars broke out, probably the second or
third generation reed you know, quest for power and all
that kind of crept in because initially it was peace
and tranquility, and then all of a sudden everything went
to pop. So at some point that's what happened. But
these ancient cultures out of India have sort of the

(01:16:07):
most deepest spiritual knowledge, the most esoteric wisdom, the deepest
understanding of the higher levels of meditation and how to
get into those levels of meditation, mystic capabilities, mystic powers.
All this comes out of there. They had the records
of the Vermonas and the flying UFOs that they had,
the flight plans, the designs on how to make them,

(01:16:27):
the information on what they were made out of, and
all this stuff that has already been discovered. It's not
even a mystery anymore. And of course, some of the
most vast amount of text and records that we can
actually get our hands on be found coming out of India.
So these people are super ancient. It goes back into
this ancient culture of advanced beings that arrived here on
this planet. And I do believe that the reason why

(01:16:48):
we have mixed races because each race of people were
genetically modified or genetically tinkered with to be branded. In
the Bible, you find out that Kine is kicked out
of the Garden of Eden. He's asking God, He's going God,
who's actually really in lil In the Bible, he's saying,
the people out there are gonna kill me. Well, it
shouldn't even be people out what people there shouldn't be

(01:17:09):
people out there? Who's out there there's millions of people
that already underplanet. But why would they kill you because
they well, he says, don't worry, I'm gonna put a
mark on you. So then God puts a mark on
Caine so that the people out there will records, Oh
this is his voice and Lil's boy, yahweh, this is Yahways, well, we
ain't gonna mess with him. So he genetically put a
mark on him too, so people would know. And he

(01:17:31):
said when you find you, when you get out there,
don't worry. You're gonna find your wife and you'll build
this whole civilization called the Canaanites. But so again evidence
of someone stepping in and genetically tinkering with us, who
give us this particular look so that people would know, Oh,
that's his group, or that's his group, or that's her group.

Speaker 6 (01:17:49):
Don't touch them. And that's how it happened. We talked a.

Speaker 11 (01:17:54):
Little bit about the mystery school in Egypt. Can you
discuss what I mean that sounds school as hell? What
is inside of the mystery school? What did they teach
in the mystery schools of Egypt that Jesus.

Speaker 10 (01:18:06):
The mystery schools of that deep deep stuff. I did
a thirty six hour mystery school class. Thirty six hours.
It's all on my forbidden off TV channel. It's you know,
broken out into hour segments of forty five minute segments,
and I still barely touched the surface of the information.
I could have gone on for two three hundred hours.

(01:18:27):
But these mystery schools were put in place, and the
very first ones, according to the Emeral Tablets, were started
by thoth Right. He's known as the Houdi or Jihudi
in Africa, and he would use this system of teaching
where he would get only adept initiates, in other words,
hand picked people that, for whatever reason he felt they
had the privilege they deserved the privilege of hearing this

(01:18:48):
sacred knowledge and information that he had carried, that had
been passed on to him for eons and eons, he says.
And so in these classes in schools, it would be philosophy,
esoteric wisdom, you know, scientific knowledge, everything from sacred geomety
to quantum physics, to understanding the philosophy of the world,

(01:19:09):
understanding higher dimensions, how to travel to dimensions. I mean,
we're talking about the most incredible set of information or
knowledge that you can get anywhere within these mystery schools,
and you had to be hand picked to be able
to get in, which you're sure we talked about earlier
from the Bible. Akay Jesus was one of these handpicked
adept initiates at the age of twelve, which is incredible.

(01:19:32):
And then their job was to keep this information and
knowledge sacred so it would pass on through time. The
problem that we have is once these quote unquote gods
disappeared or left the planet, or maybe even some died,
the people who were in control of the information and
the secrets of these mystery schools began to form, fractalize,

(01:19:55):
and form out these secret societies. And these secret societies sculling,
prost bones and Illuminati and so on and so on.
You know, there's a million of them. They all realize
that wow, hmm, there is a force that exists, but
the force is neutral. It can be good or it
could be evil. It's up to the wielder of the knowledge.

(01:20:17):
And they began and realized that if they can wield
the knowledge in one direction, they can have an enormous
amount of power and control over masses and extreme wealth.
And so these secret societies all came out of ancient
Egyptian mystery schools, and then they began to utilize the
knowledge and the power and the light for darkness because
it works both ways, and they still have a heavy

(01:20:38):
grasp on the majority of civilization till this very day.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
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on and sharing their knowledge and wisdom with all of us.
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(01:21:27):
and as I always say, trust a journey.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
It's there to teach you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
I'll see you next time.

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