NLS 572: Legendary Psychic REVEALS APRIL 2025 ENDS OLD SYSTEM; Mankind's NEW ERA BEGINS! with James Van Praagh

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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today on the show, we welcome back one of my
favorite psychic mediums ever, the legendary James Van Prague and
James came to the Next Level Soul Studios fresh off
the Ascension Conference, and the conversation we had was not
only epic, eye opening, but explosive in so so many ways.

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We talk about what's going to happen, what April twenty
twenty five means for humanity, where we're going, what we
need to do, what to look out for for the
rest of this year, in the next decade, and so
so much more.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
So let's dive in.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I like to welcome to the show returning champion James
Van pragu Hey do James.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Good Alex, thank you for having me here and I'm
really honored to be in your studio. I'm very impressed,
and thank you for those who are involved in watching
this or listening to this as well.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
He did a lot of work well. I appreciate pressed
very very much. Thank you so much. James. Well, you
have been an inspiration to me for all the work
that you've been doing in this space as a producer
and making amazing conscious content before it was in vogue.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I think so before it was in vogue.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
You produced the you created The Ghost Whisper with Jennifer Love,
Hewittt and many other shows as well. So you know,
I think the first time you and I sat down,
we h it was like pays and carrots, was like, yeah,
right away, we kind of got it. You know. I
try to be as authentic as I can. I know
you do as well, So I think we can smell

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our own. Yes, as we're recording this, this is the
day after Next Level Souls Ascension Conference, our first ever conference,
and uh man, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
It was wonderful?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Wasn't it a trip?

Speaker 2 (02:57):
It was a trip and everybody should go next time
the next year are going to push that. Yeah, it
was an incredible time for people, and people came from
all over the world, which I was amazed by me
all over the world.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
So and there was tears.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
There was tears last year after, and there was insights
from a lot of people and change and ascension and
ascension opening to ascend, and everybody had an experience. Every
single person there, I believe had an experience. So that's great.
It's it's in all different modalities you presented for people
to have experiences, right, yes, breathing and channeling and comedy,

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comedy and yeah, you presented some different ways in for people,
which is what we try to do and which you
try to do so many different ways in many depths
of people. Effect.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
It was wonderful and I appreciate you coming down. It
was and I had never seen you work.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Well that's interesting because I was thinking, Alex has never
seen work? Did you enjoy watching?

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah? So, I mean, I mean, obviously you're.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Probably thinking that's not the James that I know, because
they go into a whole, you.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Know, you go into another world. Well, I mean, we
have your show on a next level sol TV Beyond Beyond,
which is we have like one hundred and forty one
hundred and forty episodes or something like that and that,
and I saw it there. You know what you did there,
but I never see.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
So it's very different.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
It's a very different experience in person where you were
actually in you were on the stage and and you're like, okay,
hold on a second, all right, I see, Okay, there's
someone who just lost a business partner, who who did
this and that? And talking about there's checks. I'm thinking

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it's over on this side of the room, towards the back.
Does that make sense for anybody here? And you see
a hand, just one hand goes up. You're like, all right,
stand up. Yeah, it's a He says, don't worry about
the chain in the drawer. It's gonna be fine, you know,
like it was. And she's like, does that make sense
to you? Is there a Larry or a Lawrence or
something in your Yes. It was just so fascinating to watch.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, it's and it's what I liked a lot was
there's a man whose father came through in the back,
and I love that spirit comes through and affects that
because many times when you get men in your audience.
You had a lot of men in that audience, which
I've never seen that many men for an audience for
like at a conference, and I was so honored that,
you know, by themselves. It was great from all love

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the world. And then the one man. Whenever a spirit
comes through and gives a reading to a gentleman, this
sounds terrible, it's true because men typically don't come to
these things, and they're harder many times to get through
to And wow, it was an amazing experience to read
that man and his father came through and he was
I think he was kind of shocked, as a lot
of people. He was, But that could help all the
people in the audience, especially the men and relationships with fathers.

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So that was really interesting. One thing I remember I
talked to the beginning, which is really true now that
you've seen me work, that one message is for everybody.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yes, if you're in a group, that message can resonate
throughout the entire.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Because we're all having that human experience.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
And also I think it was that man. If it wasn't,
it was one of the other ones who you said
something like your mother she was. She a caregiver to children.
I see a lot of children around her.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, it might have been another one.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
There was a lot of children around you. And he's like, no, no,
there's nothing, all right, just think about it. And then
like we then later in the day we had a
panel discussion where everyone could do Q and A. He
walked up and goes, James, I just want to let
you know. I just remembered, before I was born, my
mother wasn't no payer. She also helped raise children. I

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never think of her that way because she's just my mom,
but it's right, she was before I was born. I
was like, that's funny, and that happens all the time.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Happens all the time. People forget their first names. I
was once an audience with New York and it was
a first row and this mother came through for her
son and she said, I want to give love to Michael,
my Michael, my Michael, and said, sir, does that mean
anything to you? And he goes, uh uh uh uh,
and his wife, who's sitting next from is poking him
and she goes, honey, that's your name. So you know,

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it's weird because it's a weird type of thing. You're
in this space where you just they're in awe. They're
not sure this is happening. Why is this real? And
I kind of they go to the state of unconsciousness.
I mean they forget where the names when they when
they were born, the type of work they do. Yet
it happens, and that's where you got to hold the space.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm responsible to say with that space and be wait
till the hits and if it does, I'll always say
then keep it, write it down, or keep it for
later like this gentleman, yesterday happens a lot. It's part
of the experience.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's There was one lady she was bawling. It was
about her mom. She was absolutely balling I heard later
she was literally in the bathroom just balling your eyes.
It just released something.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yes, you know, it happens a lot.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And that's the thing that's really interesting when you when
when people have these kind of experiences. I've seen it
now live, which is really really interesting to feel.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
That one thing to talk about it when you actually
experience it live.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
When you experience it live something really. I mean I
sat there watching this woman and she was just almost
inconsolable as you were talking because it just all resonated
so much. And I think we all have this yearning
for connection to our past loved ones, people who have
passed over, especially if we have unsolved unresolved issues and

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things like that.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
But that's just it so really to me, hell people
do there heaven and hell. Hell to me is regret.
Help to me is when we pass over, we look
back at our lives, we're oh, I should have could
have unfinished business, you know, I should have done this,
I should done that, And that to me is really hard.
We hold on to these things in the human life
and if we can, let you know, it's very interesting,

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we could have our life review while we're still in
the body. Right, we do things a little bit differently.
I think there are a couple of readings yesterday messages,
but forgiveness, which often comes through it's a subject. And
you know, they made it clear that you don't have
to call someone up or or just maybe can write
a card, or even if you had to just sit
and medica and send the healing, send forgiveness to that person.

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That's really important that we do that, you know, because
we never we should never judge another because we don't
know their background, we don't know where they've come from.
So who are we to judge?

Speaker 1 (09:13):
You know, right? Yeah, no, there's no, there's no question
it is. It's pretty powerful to see how important these
these souls that have passed are to us, depending on
where you who their mom, dad, and you know, son, daughter,
this or that. But it was pretty moving to see,
almost a shock because I'm assuming in your work over

(09:36):
the years, their skeptics obviously, Oh yeah, I started with
the skeptics right exactly.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
I didn't know what they were when they said you
do cold readings, but what's the cold reading? I know
what they're talking about? And then I thought, how can
they say that? They don't even know me, so can
they talk about me, and I didn't understand that. It
was just I was the one that took all the
bullets when it first came out.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I gotta ask you this, James, because you know, in
the space that I'm in right now with the show,
you know there there's obviously people who don't like what
we do. Like everybody, there's always critics of everything, always critics.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Well especially let me just throw the starry interrupt you.
But when you're shifting the paradigm, when you're changing that
paradigm that people are used to, that they're comfortable with,
and you're throwing in a whole new way of thinking
and being, you know you're coming up against them. Wow,
I got to change my way of thinking. So, but
that's real change. Roxster Foundation, Rockster Foundation. That's real change.

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You know you're doing you know you're doing your work.
When that happens, well.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Then girl, I guess I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
You are, and it's going more and more and more.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
So it's no, it's pretty remarkable. But when you were
doing this, I mean, you've been doing this now about
forty years.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I was thinking on the way over here, how long
it's been close to I was like, ninety five, so
close to it, close to.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Forty years you've been doing this. Yeah, we'll be right
back after a word from our sponsor. And now back
to the show. And when you started, it's not in
vogue or it was not around to be you know,
a psychic. You know, you were in that early crop

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of TV psyche, the only one.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh, I was the first one out there.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Actually, and Sylvia Brown was another one.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
She was after me. Yeah, exactly, I was. I was
there on the other side in the first show she did,
was the other side for show. I was on some Mistress,
then the other side NBC show. And it was very
for because not on my clients knew Sylvia. I'd never
met her, and it was funny, We're on stage with me,
her and all these other intuitive or psyche people and

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we're all there and during the commercial break I looked
down and said, Sylvia, nice to meet you, and you guys,
it's good to see men doing this job, and our
histories began, and yeah, so that was But I was
the first one out there before John Edward, really before
I mean George Anderson was the only one on Long
Island who had done one TV thing. It's just a

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guest shot of thing, but really was my appearance on
the other side. And then Larry King that really kind
of opened up everything for everybody and made it like, yeah,
made it open for for many others. And now you
look on television or online, it's like everybody is into it.
But when I did it, it was Yeah, I got

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the bullets and the skeptics. So and you know, I
was probably meant to do it obviously because it didn't
affect me, and it really made me. Wayne Dyer and
I are very good friends, and maybe Wayne Dyer myself
and Brian Weise and Deep Pok and we used to
go around the country do little conferences around there. And
I remember Wayne said something which I you know, we joke,

(12:40):
you know, I just joke them. I'm going to use
that and I still do. What are the other people
think of you? As none of your business?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah? He said, if I make if I can quote
him exactly, he was be free of the good opinion
of others.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh yeah, okay, Wayne, that was another one. And and
I've used that and I taught that, and it's true
because no one knows you better than you know yourself.
So I've always one thing about me, Alex. When I
did started doing this work, and since I was a kid,
I mean, right now, I'm right in my autobiography so
reliving a lot of this stuff. And I've always come
in I think I've come into this world like I

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think you probably have as well. That's where we get
along so well. As I believe I knew who I was.
I knew who I was from very beginning. I was
a survivor. I you know, I knew it, and I
always had a sense of who I was. That was
the only way to do. I just knew it. And
when i'd see spirit when I was a little boy,
and i'd see lights and colors around people, and in
those days, you know, I will children measure their environment
with the experience, and I thought, well, I see these colors,

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and you know, no one else did, and my friend's
gonna be crazy and you're nuts, and that's fine. But
it was like that wasn't my experience. My experience was
seeing these things, and to me, they were very real.
They were more real than many other things. So I
had to stay with that, even though people said you're
you're mentally, you're wrong, you're crazy, you're this, And when
My first experience happened when I first brought through spirit

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for a girl. I was working with a coworker and
it was almost like the sixth sense with the grandmother's
behind her. You saw her, Yeah, she walked into her cubicle.
I was in my cubicle and as she worked a
cubicle after lunch, this woman was behind her. It was
a spirit and she's staring at me like and it
was very much of sixth sense really, to freak her out,

(14:20):
freak me out? I said, do you understand about the
lady here? She's from Idaho, white house, yellow shutters and
all these details. She was, oh, yeah, that's my grandmama.
She promised me she'd come back when.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
So she was cool with it.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
She was cool. She was cooler then you were what
she was called, and I was because then I thought,
what's going to happen to me? Because am I going crazy?
Because there was no reference again, so there really was
this before anything, And I said, wow, this is kind
of weird? Am I going crazy? And I ran out
of Paramount Studios I was working. I ran out of
my apartment and it was just strange because I couldn't

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call anyone ask them because you know, I think there.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Was no podcast, there's no thing focusing.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
So I called up the medium that I went to
many years before, and he said, James, the Spear people
made the prediction that you're going to be doing this work.
And it was two years to the day that that
prediction was made. And he took you under his wing
and taught me for seven years. And yeah, that's how
it all happened. And then I was just you know,
show basin was in my blood, so I started doing
I really wanted to be involved with the productions that

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would open up the mind. And you were early and
I was early. Well got things going. So now you
can just take it away, fly, my friend, Fly, And
that's what you're doing in your way. You know, I
opened it up the door to change the conscious and
you're just now going to do it. And you know
the way of these times, well.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
I'll tell you. I mean, we're all I think everybody
in the space is on your shoulders. And other you know,
other visionaries like you that came out in those early
days who had the bravery, you know, like Deryl Anka
with the show like I mean, and you know, Abraham
and these other kind.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Of Jack Purcell. I remember it was a chantler Jack Purcell.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
All these that came out when it wasn't cool, when
it was like I'm fringe. It was definitely fringe. You're
in the back of a new age bookstore on a
Sunday afternoon or something like that. I've done many of
those exactly because that's all you could do, could you know?
And I'm assuming like watching you, watching what's happening with
you know, the awakening of humanity and that you know,

(16:21):
a show like ours or even the conference is that
the conference we went to yesterday. You're seeing men in
there and all this kind of stuff. I cant of
imagine you're looking at like, my god.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, to see all the men in that room, I
was like so impressed, because I've done thousands of conferences
and most said, say, good seventy percent women maybe seventy five,
and the men were usually dragged their brother wives. But
to see all these guys there without their wives, Yeah,
and from all over the world. I was really impressed.
And that's thanks to you, because you've reached them. And

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one thing about me, which is interesting many things about you, man,
I just kind of keep up with myself. One thing
about being a teacher that I have you my online
school and so forth. I've always been and I'm going
to say it, integrity is big for me. I'm not
capricorn rising all about integrity and responsibility. And I'm just
very aware like when I put it something on television

(17:14):
that I'm teaching, I'm teaching them masses whoever. I have
to open up a mind in a positive way, and
it has to be done for the right intention. And
I see stuff on television, stuff out there which is
not which is not, which is just to get whatever money, money,
greed and no integrity, and to me, it's like it's

(17:35):
really teaching teaching. So when I had to go Swhisper,
the show goes Whisper, I remember on arguing with CBS
because it was Disney and CBS, but I was CBS
is on my side, and Disney, I think, wanted to
change it. They wanted to change the show, the format,
and they wanted to make it very fear based. And
the beginning was very fear based, and at the end
they wanted to keep it very fear based. And I said,
I won't do the show. You can't put my name

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on it if it doesn't end up in a positive
light because you're putting that out to the ethers people,
and I want to show to end in a very healing, positive,
loving light. That's who we are. You can bring them
into circumstance with the fear and say ooh, the interest,
but at the end, there's got to leave in love,
because that's want to leave the universe in love. And
I think that's responsibility, as you know, and that's the

(18:18):
reason why I'm here with you, and because you do
exactly that way. Your integrity, your integrity, and you do
things of the highest manner. You you know, as I'm
looking at your studio I'm visiting today, you do things
that were really in the in the highest of yeah, yeah,
the highest integrity.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I appreciate that very too much. Jams when you were
saying that like that, you know, your show led with
a little bit of fear to get them in and
then it ends healing. It's kind of like what I
talk about all the time is like I'm in the
business of selling chocolate cover broccoli, and you know, if
you sell it as broccoli, it's going to be a
tougher sell. But if you sell as as chocolate bite

(18:58):
of the it has to be dark chocolate. I'm not
a savage. And if they take a bite, they get
some of the broccoli in with the chocolate and then oh,
wait a minute, I kind of like the broccoli and
there you go. But you have to kind of, you know,
because I'm not and I think you weren't either. But
I'm not going after the converted correct because they're converted

(19:20):
already and they can enjoy the content that we create
and everything that we do. I'm looking for the construction
worker who just lost their mom and wants to know
if they're okay, and they'll watch an ND and then
they'll go, oh, who's this James Band Why I can't
even say his last name, Like, who's that guy? Oh?
He's oh and what's this over there? Was that quantum
physicism and there you go down different rabbit holes. And

(19:42):
that's who I'm going after. And I think that's one
of the reasons why so many men by themselves showed up.
It was It's pretty remarkable.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, all the different different types of backgrounds, which is
like great.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah. I have to ask you though, when you were
going through the beginnings of this and you were taking
the arrows like they say, the first went through the
doors always the bloodiest. Yeah, well the first one over
the hill gets the arrows in the back. Yeah, we'll
be right back after a word from our sponsor. And
now back to the show. How did you just deal

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with I mean, I know you said it didn't bother me,
but as a human being, it still has to be.
I mean, especially maybe it doesn't bother this version of James,
but I imagine forty year old, forty years ago James
was probably not nearly as armored and shrapneled as he
is now. That like it bounces off you now, but
back then, I have to imagine there was some sort

(20:39):
of emotional toll that even think, why am I doing this?
Why do I keep going?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well, I never had that why am I doing this?
I just felt I had to do it, and I
didn't really get involved with I just didn't. It wasn't
like they don't understand what I'm doing, so I didn't.
That's something that wasn't what I was doing it for.
I was doing for, you know, the healing of people
and for the work itself. The only time, if I
can think back, one of the only times that I

(21:04):
was upset about it was I did the View with
Barbara Walters and what happened was it was this probably
the fourth or fifth time I was doing the view,
and I, you know, love joy and then you know
what love will be. You know, they've changed over the
years after that, but I remember Barbara was on that
and I walked into the green room and I saw
her orc Field and was like, this looks bad. I said, Oh,

(21:25):
she has dementia. I see it. And I said, her
heart's bad too. Oh jeez, I said, And she's slowed down.
Her energetic body was slowed down. And I you know,
I first met Barbara years before and I went to
her office in ABC and I gave her a reading
for her father and he came through and talked about things,
and I read her assistant, the secretary, and her mother

(21:48):
did by a cancer came through, great, great stuff. And
I'd be the first say this isn't you know right
or whatever, But I'm not like that. So anyway, I
did the I did the view, and I did I
was doing and Elizabeth hassled that. I gotta tell you,
I liked her. She was so we might not have
the same politics, but she was so respectful of guests
and I was really impressed, and Whoop was as well.

(22:12):
And I'm doing some readings for the audience and they
were saying, myself, pretty good connections. I was kind of oppressed,
and I remember someone was one of the people were saying, oh,
it was Joy. Joy's in the back end, and Joy's
a friend of mine. Jo. She goes, well, what about it,
and he goes, be quiet, let him finish. And it
was great. So that was then that Barbara was there

(22:33):
and we sat down at the end and I said
to Barbaradur a commercial break, if you ever want a reading,
I'd be willn't happy to because I could tell she
was kind of diminishing. This is five six, seven years
before she passed. So I at the end of the
taping the show was over and you can get me
aut reading now, and I said okay. And I should
have said no, but I just thought, okay, I'll do

(22:55):
it now because I can see her state. And we
started doing. She were on the side of the stage
and I said, you have to take off your sound,
your microphone. It's the one's business, but your own. And
I read her and I said, your heart's not good.
I said something but your heart and your packtors. No,
I feel fine, I said, okay, just that's what I'm getting,
and that's and that's what I got very clearly.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Then the next day or two days later, I think
it was, I was at a friend's a mother's funeral,
and it was at their house to having a reception party,
and someone came up and said, Barbara is bad mouthing
you on the view and I turned it on and
she was that jam Time Prague, you know. He he said,
my heart was bad. And I went to my surgeon

(23:37):
out of surge, pulled him out of surgery, and he said,
you're fine, your heart's weining and that James don Prog
shouldn't be doing this and hurting people. Well, I had no.
They didn't invite me back to speak to her. It
was just like millions of people or didn't even hear
my point of view how it worked. And then years
later she dies of a heart issue, has shetut of
her heart issue. That leave years later and it's like wow,

(23:58):
and that the skeptic got ahold of that and they
put it all over the internet. And I didn't get
gigs on television because of that. Yeah. Real when you
put my name in there was this Barbara Walters and yeah,
and that was hurtful because, like, you know what, that
wasn't fair. You know, I don't mind people criticize them,
but give me a chance to counteract and talk about it.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Well, let me ask you, James, why do you think
that happened to you in that your of your of
your life journey, Because it doesn't. It's happened for a reason.
Anything that negative happens to us happens for a learning lesson.
But I'm just curious because that was a pretty that's
a problem. Yeah, that's a pretty big punch.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
It hurt me because it helped It held me back
from helping more people. It held me back from being
on other shows and reading, reaching more people, reaching more people,
And that was a Yeah, that was that was tough.
So that's tough. I mean, that was what it was.
And I'm just fine. But it could I could have
reached a lot more people, and unfortunately it was because
producers do these shows, they just look you up and

(24:52):
if they see, oh, Barbara Waltz is said he's a
phone or whatever, then they do't do it.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
So I've had a lot of it took you years
to come back from it.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
It was upsetting and I went, well, then if she
died of the hard issue in dementia, I was like,
I felt vindicated, you know. But yeah, that's that's something
which was hard because I'm such an honest person and
then to have that, I was like, wow, that's just wrong.
But it is what it is, part of this human experience,
and I forgive the lady. You know what it is. Yeah,

(25:21):
it is what it is, and that's all that it is.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
So you were saying that when you were in a
cubicle and you saw this basically her grandmother, a ghost
behind her. I talked to you, Yester, I think it's
yesterday or the day before yesterday, when we were like,
you know, do you see do you see dead people
walking around all the time? And then you told me no, no,
I'm closed right now. Yeah, And that's a very important

(25:45):
thing for you, really important. And I talked to other
psychics like that sometimes because when they first start, they
don't know how to put the clothes sign on.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
That's what I teach my school because you have to know.
And that's a couple recently from a lot of the students.
They need to know the mechanics of media and the
mechanics of mediumship and channeling, and mediumship is you need
to know when to turn on. That sends that part
of the mind to be receptive and to be the vessel.
And then when you're done, you have to turn it off,

(26:12):
whether it's closing a curtain, where it's switching a light off.
And it's really important because it affects the adrenal system
of the body, the undercrine system. And I often say
to my students just think of the analogy of like
a ceiling fan, and if a ceiling fan is always on,
you know, and it'll eventually burn out the motor and
that's why has to go off. Same with our adrenal
system because mediums and psychics and channels, just the adrenals

(26:34):
are being overtaxed, overused. This is our power pack and
when you're overusing it, it can start breaking down. And
that's why it's so important that people who do this
work realize you've got to turn on and turn off
if you can't be like running around again, here I
go again, not to put anyone down, but Tree Scoputo,
you know, lovely lady, I met ones lovely and met
her husband who's nice as well. But the and this

(26:56):
is ignorance of the producers. I got to say that
even with Tyler Henry, the ignorance producers don't know the
mechanics of medium ship. So Teresa, they portrayed it and
to the public that she just goes out and she's
open the spirits around her all the time. She goes
the bakery and then someone comes in and well, I
don't know if she's been not taught not to do that,

(27:19):
but for me, that such a stickler to demonstrate that
to the public. It sends misinformation to the public about
mediumship that you can always be on, you've got to
be turned off. So I prefer going to the butcher's
stop saying Okay, I'm going to open up right now
and now I feel as a woman here or them,
that would be the appropriate thing to do, because remember,
you're teaching the public. They're looking to you for the expertise,

(27:42):
and if they don't have the right way of doing
it and they're hurt, because they could hurt people. You know,
if people start doing that and don't realize how to
modulate things and integrate things and close down it could
hurt them physically. I've met many mediums who died of
internal stuff going on, whether it's a cancer with a
certain disease, leukemia, because their drenals were overtext. It's really important.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
So when you so, it's kind of like in Ghost
with WHOOPI Goldberg's like saying, I can't they've come out
of the woodwork. They're all over the place. Obviously, Whoopy
in that movie, that character didn't understand what was happening.
She was playing a fake psychic, that's right, and then
she all of a sudden like, oh no, oh crap,
I'm a real psychic now.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
So that does happen Alex. Where I go into a
space and I'm aware of all the spirits around me,
I'm very aware of them. Yesterday I was aware of
them before even started in the conference. I was aware
of them. I'll walk into a space and be aware
of them. I will not engage until I'm ready to work.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Now, you see them, but you don't engage.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, I see them, I feel them. I sense them, yeah,
very much.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
So.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Now recently my brother passed over and not too far away,
and he has come through me in ways where I'm
surrendered in that I'm getting massage. He comes to me.
I'm not thinking about driving off. He comes to me,
and I allow that only because he's your brother. He's
my brother, and he's not taxing me. And yeah, so
that's a little different. But I'm not every day going okay,

(29:05):
let's talk. I just you just can't do it. And
he's part of your development of the medium is you've
got no boundaries. You got no boundaries, want to turn on,
want to turn off? And you work with your guides,
and your guides you know when you're they're going to
work with the instrument. And to me, an instrument is
like a piano. It's going to be properly tuned and
work to its capacity. And if you're not correct in

(29:27):
your taking care of the instrument, it could break down.
So I want to get the most out of my
vessel as men too, and I've got to do my
responsibility as the human here. I've got to take care
of myself. And that means to say you can't treat
caffeine or wine or alcohols. Oh yes you can. But
everything has to be a moderation, even life. Everything is moderation.

(29:50):
It should be a moderation.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
So you know, I have to ask you, James, have
you ever been drunk? And I've been drunk quite so,
if you've ever been drunk, what happens to your abilities?
Right here? I mean that's an Irish coffee, uh, you know.
But if you've ever been like completely not like inebriating,
but just so like you're you've drank a bunch of
that night, you're tipsy, you're a little loopy or something

(30:14):
like that, what happens to your abilities? I've never asked
that question.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
It's interesting because a lot of a lot of mediums,
a lot of some of my students started asking me
these questions.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
And and really it's interesting because a lot of people
start doing readings when they're drinking, and they'll do this
with a friendly you know so and says, coming through
this because they're lowering that, they're lowering their selves down. Sure,
opening themselves up.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Of course, just flows right, that makes sense, Yeah, because
you now you're taking off the ego of the mind.
It's all starting to kind of weigh down. So now
you're open, much more open, much more open. A dangerous
dangerous way of doing the business.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Dangerous way in many respects because all so you know
you're just open, you're also when you drink, it slows
you down. So we're lowering that vibration and you're lowering
it down. And that's why I always saying that my
books that once you'd never be aware when you go
into bars, clubs, things, that you've really got to protect
yourself your energetic field because you're going to a vibration

(31:18):
which really slow and down. And listen. I think there
are those beings, spirit beings, if you will, who have
passed over, who still are at a lower level, and
that they miss the drink, that they miss those places,
and they do haunt them. I do believe that, and
they will haunt those places, those old hangouts, and they
want to have that last bit of the drink. And

(31:41):
spirits can actually if we have a drink, they can
get the essence of that drink. Plus they have the
memory of it, so get the memory and the essence.
They won't get drunk because they're not physical, but they
get the essence. So they might You've heard of hangers on,
so they could be hangers on, And I do believe
that I don't know anything until I pass. So everybody
I do believe that they can influence those of a

(32:03):
weaker nature, if that's saying very mediumistic. And that's why
a lot of mediums, also by the different mediums and
so forth, would be alcoholic many times because you couldn't
deal with that higher vibration and slow it down. And
that's very dangerous because I call them bill hanging on
hangers on, and not that it happens all the time,
but you got to be mindful of your space that

(32:24):
you go in. And I mean I can go in
the bars and clubs, but I would definitely prepare myself,
surround myself with an energy or meditate before I close
the seal off my field. I do it every day
before I go to the human world. I'll do a
shower and then cleanse the physical body. Then I cleanse
my mental body, and I will imagine beautiful gold and

(32:45):
loving light coming in and around me. And before I
got the shower, and I say, it's very interesting when
I do that and bringing that loving light, and then
I close my eyes and I imagine out of my
fingertips and my toes like a Hershey syrup, like a
heavy energy that's negative energy or someone else's energy in
my space. Because every day we meet people their energy
particles of their energy to stay in our space. So

(33:06):
I want to clear with that away and same and
every night before I go to sleep, I go through
my whole day and I see where I left my voice,
my connection, and I bring back my energy and I
also send the other person's energy back to them. So
before I go my day, I program it and they
say I'm after my energetic cleanse in the shower. Then
before I go out of that shower, I'll say, may

(33:28):
God go before me and show me the way. So
I set that vibrational tone surrounding me and it really
works so like attracts like and that magnetic sense you're
attracting one of that highest frequency. I used to do
it all the time. Would you hear this one? Before
I go on the universal lot, it's on the side
of the one one for you. I've been there, So

(33:49):
before I go any lot, i'd always sit and really
surround myself and protect myself.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
You definitely have to do that when you walk home.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, can you imagine I can of
imagine that when you were on like the universal backlodder,
Warner Brothers or Disney. I mean they're ghosts. Ghost I
mean literally like old actors.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Maybe who have you seen?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Like what did you ever see?

Speaker 2 (34:11):
It? In the well? I didn't want to open up completely.
I didn't at all because I was in the middle
of a studio and as worked with producers who were
just horrible and cutthroat and shocking. Well, I hired them
in the season, they should be really, really popular. Then
when they tried firing me and wait a minute, I'm
your boss, so what it left? So it was all

(34:32):
like that. It was like, think about it. You have
desperate actors, actresses trying to get a job. There's all
producers about money and trying to get the money. There's
so many dynamics going on.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Politics.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Politics are even on a set. Oh oh my gosh.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
If you're on a set and the director even shows
a slight, slight weakness, it's like blood in the water.
The cru will turn on them. The actors could turn
on them, the producer could turn on them. It's fast
to see. I've been challenged so many times on set
as I came up from first AD's.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Sure, I'm paying you exactly, and.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
You're giving me crap. That's right, it's fascinating.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
We had before the show goes Whisper. It was very
interesting because so many interesting dynamics there. But I predicted
the show was going to do this, and it happened,
and I said, if we can get these Disney and
in a room together and I'll do readings, we'll sell
the show. And to get them together was like, oh
my goodness, Oh no, no, no, forget crazy. And it

(35:32):
was development season. So literally, some guy comes in from
Disney at some prison's houses. How long is it going
to take? I gotta read some scripts and I said, well,
just see, we'll see what happens and change his life.
Someone came through. But really it was wild because it
was really really interesting. We had a lady by named
Mariann Wakowski and she's an earth bound ghostbuster. I guess

(35:54):
you say so. In her experience, she would tune into
those spirits that would not go over that they were
earth bound, and I deal with them once they're over there.
But she was very interesting because she said, well, there
are many souls that will not go into that light
for whatever reason. She goes, there are many who love
their work here, and they'll stay here. We were once
having we went went through the universe a lot, and

(36:16):
we did a tour and she would tell us who
was there and who's there, and there were these old
stage hands over there, there were actress and actresses.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Some well known stuntmen, excite men, and she.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Would mention it, and we looked it all up, and
sure enough it all made sense. And I remember another
time we were at a restaurant in West Hollywood and
we're sitting there and she goes, I said, so, just
like you're asking me, are they always there as well?
I'm aware of them many, but not all that. They're
not all over the place a certain place. They are
a lot of them. And I said, well, a couple
of great stories. I might have told you one of these,
but I have. So she said, they said that man

(36:49):
sitting She goes, it's a man sitting on the steps.
I said, this is a man. She goes, he's about
thirty years old, is it? And and she's he's gay.
I said okay, And she said he doesn't want to
go to other side, so he knows I can see him.
I say, okay, goes, he doesn't want to go over
to the other side because he was raised religiously and
his mother and fet related to him that he's you know,
if he goes, if he's gay, he's going to help,

(37:12):
he's right to Hell. So he was afraid to go
into the light because it's so going right to hell
to stay behind on Earth, and thought that was fascinating.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yeah, because the programming was so heavy here that it
literally transfers over. And to my understanding, Jim's when when
someone's transferring over or transitioning over to the other side,
there is a transition period where they're kind of like
decompressing from this experience, and many of them can do

(37:40):
it very quickly. Many of them go into the life
review and it's and they have help, but others are
I've had some near death experiencers who were so like
they were told to the hell and all that stuff.
They believe they needed to go to Hell, so when
they went to the other side, they actually had a
hellish near death experience until they go I'm done, I
need help, and then Jesus or an angel if someone
shows up, a light shows up, and all the negative

(38:03):
goes away and they're able to ascend. But a lot
of times that programming is so hard that they can't.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Leave exactly right, exactly what it is. It's in their mindset.
And that's why it's really important for people to have
an awareness of life after death, of what happens after death.
That what you carry in your mind will bring you
to the side. The love that you make here bring
you meat when you pass over, and it really helps
to realize that it's a natural occurrence. I'm doing a
podcast tonight. In my podcast about a man, a friend

(38:31):
of mine who's getting ready to pass and it's to
show about living to dine and how to prepare for
death and we every day can prepare to it by
doing the right thing, but realize it's much much more
just this physical body. I have one mostory I got
to say about that that earthbout things. So I talk
with Mary on Kowski for our show. She said, which
is really interesting. She goes, well, people got it all wrong.

(38:52):
Cemeteries aren't haunted. There's no energy. They can't draw from
any energy. You know, earthbound spirit can draw from any energy.
So no, that makes it interesting. So where would they be?
Would be most haunted places dentist offices and airports huh
and doctors, but mostly she's the dentist, and an airports
by dentists. People are afraid, so it's the fear energy

(39:14):
that they hold onto, that fear energy to hold them
kind of down here to gravitation. It's the fear energy
that's what they hold on too.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
So they're also probably on war zones and things like
that as.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Well, yes, but it really well established them doctors as well,
doctors of hospitals for sure. So this is an interesting story.
So I remember that, and I was once in Nashville,
and I think there's a long time in Nashville, and
I'm taking a plane back and I'm an hour wait
in the airport and I'm walking around and notices this
man going back and forth and he's a ghost. He's

(39:47):
a spirit, Like huh no, I'm not really tuned in
because I don't want to be. But for some reason,
this impression he's making an impression in my mind, and
he's walking back and forth. There's big thick glasses walking
back and forth and back and forth, like, Okay, I
see the dude. I'm not going to let him know
that I see. I'm not gonna put my mind to him.

(40:07):
I'm aware of my peral vision of him, and it's
not that he's coming over to me, but around me perfectly.
I see him around.

Speaker 3 (40:15):

Speaker 2 (40:25):
So eventually got on the plane and I'm sitting there
in the first class and this beautiful blonde lady's next
to me, and all of a sudden, I see the
ghosts the guy coming to the plane. I'm like, oh
my gosh, the guy with the dark hair and the glass.
I'm like, oh, he's a plane. Oh jeez, what's gonna
happen now? So, as I'm talking to the plane takes off.

(40:46):
It and where he went. But the plane takes off,
and then I'm aware at one point that he's kind
of behind me, like okay, this guy is trying to
get to me. What the heck? And as I'm talking,
I'm talking to the lady next to me, this lovely lady.
We're talking about different things. She said, well, and she goes,
you know, my husband was in music. I said, I
was he She goes, yeah, he was Roy Orbison. I said, oh,

(41:07):
that's who it is. Roy Orbison is the man with
the glasses and book.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
For people and he wrote pretty Women.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
He's a pretty woman.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Not the movie.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, I mean he was in great, incredible man. But
you know, then was it up for me to say,
guess what, he's right here. I couldn't do it. I
couldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
And also you're trapped up in the air. So if
anything goes wrong and she starts freaking out or something.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
You can't go out.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
I wouldn't be appropriate, in appropriate, And there is something
to be said about that. Where mediums, I mean, mediums
have a responsibility, a big response, big, big responsibility, not
to just walk up to somebody and go listen, Grandma
just here and she wants to talk to you, Like
if you don't, it's solicited.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
It's more like the ego is speaking instead of you know,
they do it from an ego point of view. Yeah,
I think, or in ignorance.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
That I had I had at the conference yesterday. I
had a psychic show up like she's one of the
you know, one of the participant participants of the conference,
and she walks up to me. She's like, Alex, I
don't normally do this, but I have a really strong
message for you, and I'm like, I'm cool. Like if
there's anyone you could I'll find. I'm down, I'm very open.

(42:15):
It's solid. I'm not promised. She gave me this message.
I was like, I know, thank you so much. I
already knew what she was saying. It was a kind
of a message to kind of reiterate the urgency of
what I need to do. So I was like, I
appreciate that. It's just kind of like a little push.
And I was like, okay, so that happens.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
She came from a good place. What's the intention behind?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
She was very beautiful and she was just trying to help.
It wasn't anything crazy. It was just a one message,
very simple, very point. You're very straightened to the point.
And of course, when gentlemen like yourself come on the show,
I you know, Alex, I have something to tell you,
like see, I wouldn't tell you, look, I would tell

(43:00):
you privately correct exactly. Yeah, on public again unless we
ask them, Okay, I need a reading, James, can you
give me one like that? It's different, but you know,
off air, I just get so. I'm used to a
channels do it to me all the time, so I'm
kind of used to that stuff, but I get it.
For someone who's uninitiated or has is not open to that,
it could it could, it could really destroy their life.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
It could hurt them.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
It could hurt them very badly because it just could
rock their foundation. It could open up.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
It's very and it's more important for that medium with
that psychic than it is for the recipient.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Thing.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
That's not right. I always think any permission. I mean,
I teach this in my classes about integrity and responsibility,
and you really need to be Remember you're holding someone's
life like a thin piece of glass, and your job
is not to destroy them, but to build them up.
And that's really really important. But a lot of people
don't get that, and that's really important part of the work,

(43:53):
you know. And I don't know, Alex if that's starting
to fade away from people as.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Far as their responsibility.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, I don't know. Well, I think only because we
see TV shallows where they say, oh, I'm coming up
to you.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
It's I think that this awakening, the we're all going
through right now and the humanity is going through right now,
is opening up a lot of things. And certainly, and
just like perfect example, when I was editing back in
the days, you'll you'll understand this. I was an avid
editor for a long time, sure, and as an avid editor,

(44:27):
and bear with me, everyone, there's a point to this story.
As an avid editor, it was a half a million
dollar editing system, so that alone let only a handful
of people do the job. Then the technology got really
inexpensive where final cuts showed up, and when final cut
pro showed up, then for a couple thousand dollars you

(44:48):
can have an editing system. Then the technology kept going
and going and going to the point where now anyone
can edit on their iPhone on a non professional way,
or now or on a laptop you can do a
full movie, all that kind of stuff. And when you
opened the door, the beautiful thing is now people who
didn't have access to it before have access to it now.
The problem is people who have access to have access

(45:11):
to it that so they muddy the waters. People that
shouldn't have access to that kind of information or that
kind of power gets it now, and it's you know,
does it for the wrong reasons. So I believe that
that's happening in channeling, that's happening in psychond reads, that's
happening in the spiritual space now. So many people are channels.
So many people are trying to be psychic mediums. And

(45:31):
that's awesome, it really is. But there's you gotta take.
You gotta take the good with the bad when you
open up the things. Like when you were coming out,
you know, early forty years ago, there was a you
could count probably in one or two hands, how many
people were doing it on a public standpoint at least.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Oh yeah, right, it was George Anderson, myself, and then
after me was John Edward and Sylvia Brown and that
was really it.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
For a while for a while. Yeah, for a long while.
That was that was it.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I mean, God bless John. Everybody's still out there doing
it with his demonstrations and he doesn't slow down. I said, John,
really he said no, I love it and good for him,
and yeah, so it's really interesting. But that's changed over
the years. The mediumship has changed because as we've seen
now Tyler Henry and you know, that's fine and Teresa,
but more shows them with mediums that I don't know,

(46:17):
I'm such a I'm just really critical in that I
hold mediumship to a high standard because we are the
ambassadors of the higher form of you know. To me,
it's all about love and you have to show that
demonstrates that love. And it's not a sideshow, not a
circus act, and it should be treated with respect and

(46:38):
integrity and responsibility. And when I see that it isn't.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
It's just like this is not you're a medium's statesman
if you will, yeah, you are a statesman.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Well, otherwise, don't do the work. If you're not willing
to be responsible for what you put out of the
and build people up and do the work the right way,
then just throw it out there like you're in a circus.
And I I can do this be many of my
students when I when I do it, I when I
talk to my students first day, what is the reason
behind your mediumship? What is the reason why you want
to get involved in? Well, they want to help people.

(47:11):
I want to serve people. And I say, there are
many ways to help people. You could go into medical work,
you go into baking, you go into accounting, there are
many different services. What is the real reason behind it?
So they really got to know themselves. And you know,
mediumship takes on many different ways of mediumship, but you
know it's all just an energy that we all channel, right,

(47:31):
that that creative force if you will. But there are
many ways you're gonna do it. Even therapists can be
you know, our media. Wherever's a medium in their own
you know, in their own way, in their own for
their own work, or your medium or all mediums in
our own way. But when you do the work the
spirit communication, to me, it's it's a whole different you know,
uh game, because you're you're dealing with the higher vibration

(47:55):
in that the highest fibertion the is is love and
you have to bring that element of love if you're
going to work as a medium, especially before people and
in the public eye on television, there's got to be
that sense of at least from me. Again, I can't
say for everybody, but I'm a teacher in that I
have to demonstrate and teach it love. And perhaps it

(48:17):
might be had The father never was able to say
I love you to his daughter, and that's why he
could say I love you. But there's got to be
you know, I'm gonna say it this way. There are
a lot of great technicians out there, you know, as
far as many mediums. Not just because someone's the medium
doesn't mean they're spiritual they'd be great technicians, but doesn't
mean they're or.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
That they're good people.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
They're good people.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
There's there are a lot of people who have the
gift who are not like evolved and ascended. I mean,
that's the thing. And that's another thing I love to
talk about on the show because people automatically think like, well,
God gave you this gift, so you must be doing
everything for the right reasons. You're not doing it out
of ego, you know. No, it happens even with spiritual masters, yes,
who are They might have mastered a certain level of awakening,

(49:02):
but they didn't master the three dimensional world, and they
they sleep with their students or they're caught up in
the fame of it and all that stuff. Even though
they've reached a certain level, not the highest, but a
certain level.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
You'd be very shocked. And I'm not going to tell you,
but it is off air. Maybe a lot of them. Yeah,
you'll be shocked. I mean people would be just shocked
at what I had And I was. This is one
of the things in my career that shocked me. It's like, huh,
that person like that way then on what and it
was really shocking. That was one of the things that

(49:35):
in my career really set me back because I was like, Wow,
how can this person be this way in front of
people and then behave a whole different way, And it
makes me just lose so much respect because for me,
life is a medium. You have to live that. That's
it's a life of service. And it's almost like you
can't just put that, you know, put it on in
front of people then close off. I mean to me,

(49:56):
you have for me, I got to live my life
as medium. I had to live my life as a
spiritual ambassador in that and all the way I live
my principles. I've got to live my principles out. I've
got to bring loves everywhere I can any way I
can do it. And I got to be non judgmental.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Not easy.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I've had learned that one. But I had to Who
am I to teach something if I don't do it
myself right? So it's interesting, But there are people in
the phenomena of that of psychic or channeling or immediate
they think a phenomena, Yeah, they get caught up with
the side show of it all. Yeah, they want to
be well known. When I said it, I said, oh,
I want to be well known. I want a TV show. No,
that's not the right reason behind it. There are a

(50:35):
hundreds of thousands of mediums out there who no one
knows about, but the most the most talented ones around
that you don't hear about.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
and now back to the show. It's kind of like
filmmakers and actors and those kind of things I need
to be famous about. That's not the way. That's not No,
you can't make any friends for that. If you walk
into the movie going this is Oscar Bound, you're done.

(51:04):
You're done, right, That's what you're done. There's there's no
question With all that said. I see a woman behind you,
s Victorian. She's staring at me, and she wants she
has a.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Message I don't want to hear from my I've had
It's funny. I've had people come up to me and
say things like that, like I said to you, to you,
oh sure.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Oh yeah, I have a message for you.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Oh gosh, you must listen to this message. It's very
important that you hear this, Like huh oh yo, you
got to hear it. I said, I don't want to
you have to I said, no, no, now that happened.
Or I get you know book sent to me every week.
Oh yeah, it's your karma to get this book published.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Oh wow get Oh yeah, I get those two. Oh
god yeah. Spirit my spirit guides told me to reach
out to you to be on your show. I have
to be on your show.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
My favorites. My favorites are always the I have a message, there,
you go, only for you. I need five minutes. I'm like, guys,
I appreciate it, I really do. But if I took
five minutes for every five minute email, it would just
I we wouldn't be able to do a show.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
So I'd say, write it down and mail it to me.
But do you want me to what mail mail? I
don't know where I put the stamp on the envelope.
Oh there's an envelope you need what's the stamp?

Speaker 1 (52:22):
What's an envelope?

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Now?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
A friend of ours. His name is Bruce Joel Rubin.
I loved Bruce.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Okay, So Bruce Joe Rubin wrote Ghosts.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
He wrote Ghosts, He wrote Jacob's Latter. He directed This
Is Life Last mimz uh oh the ghost well, ghost
is He won the Oscar for Ghost.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
So what I did with Ghosts.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
So just because I was gonna go there's a scene
in there. I wanted to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Yes, yes, but I've never met the man. I tried
meeting him after Ghost, but I couldn't get to him.
I was working at Paramount Studios at the time and
they showed Ghosts and they had it in this on
the studio. We had a screening and and I was
just started my mediumship or studying it, and I knew
the techniques, I know the ways of doing things, and

(53:07):
I that's when the movie ended. I was the only
one of the room that's standing ovation really yeah, because
he got it all right and to get this out
there and to demonstrate it with fantastic.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, it was. It was one of the first real,
real kind of expressions of what mediumship is. Yes, and
obviously a Hollywood rapper, but he's snuck in Allo, but
for he snuck in.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
A lot that they let in, and he studied the
He studied medium ship before for this movie. He really
prepared and learned and read books.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
And you know his story, right, you know how he
became like kind of you know, he said, like a Tibetan.
I know, I so right now he teaches meditation. He's
more in the Tibetan side of Oh. You know he's
he's gone full full like that in his in his
years and in his retirement years. And he's a wonderful,
wonderful soul. I had him on the show years ago

(54:04):
and we had this conversation and I'll tell this story
because it's just brilliant. He's in Berkeley in the nineteen
sixties and his friend goes, hey, Tim, Tim has a
big file of LSD that just came in from Sweden
or Switzerland, and he wants can we keep it? He's

(54:26):
not he can't receive it. Can we keep We'll keep
it in and can we keep in the refrigerator overnight
and put it up in the morning. Tim was Timothy
Leary so and he had never tried to any drugs
before Bruce. So his friend's like, Hey, I mean, if
we're going to try some LSD, wow, I mean having
Tim lees and cut LSD from Switzerland, you know, from

(54:47):
Switzerland is the way to go.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
And he's like, you know what, let's do it. It's
the sixties. We're in Berkeley with the hell so they
take a dropper. There's like, you know, a gallon of it,
like they could drop liquid. It's just all liquid for me.
It's just not anything else. It hasn't gotten to the
tabs yet. So he takes it a dropper, so it's raw,
and he takes one drop and he sits there for
like an hour. He's like, man, I don't feel anything.
He goes, we should probably take a couple more. His

(55:13):
friend takes takes a dropper. Oh no, you want to
hear whoopsie the whole dropper. No. Eighty doses at once,
which you cannot undo. You cannot pump a stomach. You're done.
It's you're going on a ride. He well, he got
the eighty, the other one I got like one or two.

(55:33):
Sow go sit down and get ready for a ride.
And when he it finally hit, and it hit hard,
his entire body was deconstructed, ripped apart, like he was
in space, ripped apart.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
His essence was left.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
He flew to the center of the universe, spoke to God,
and then you have to watch the episode. There's a
lot more details I'm letting out. And then he came back,
flew back in his body reassembled and he came out
of it. Wow. And that of course changed his life
of course. And now when you watch Jacob's Ladder, you understand,

(56:09):
he goes, that's the closest we ever got to my
psychedelic experience. Well, I got to watch it over again
because Jacob's Ladder. When I watched it, I was like, cheat, man,
what the hell is this guy on? Like it was
the weirdest movies of the time. Adrian Lynn, a great director,
directed it yea, and Bruce was telling me, He's like,
you know, we we fought to get that in And
that was the script that got his career started. It

(56:31):
was one of those like top ten best scripts in
Hollywood that Ghost.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
It was before Ghost. Then after he won the Oscar
for Ghost. Then he did This is My Life with
Michael Keaton and the Last Minsay, and he did he
did a ton of He did a ton of ton
of different projects over the years. But that was just
so funny. Now there is a scene though in Ghost
that you said, Bruce, listen and it's okay. Bruce would
be the first to say, it's cool that he got

(56:59):
a lot right, and I used them a lot right,
the ninety six percent was right, And like I use
Whoopy as an example all the time with like people
coming into her and the ghost in the room.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
And the funny thing aside is that she's really into this.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Oh yeah, of course she loves it. And you know, say,
im kicking the can and all that, like the moving
of things that happens, right exactly, Yeah, we all see
that happens. And but now like putting like you have
to think everything in that whole thing, the shadow monsters
that that was interesting, So the shadow so the Shadow monster.

(57:35):
About that personally, I think it was, well, it's a
concept of going to hell to a hellish experience, right,
I can trip the night fandang go and kind of
explain it away if you like. But I think it
was part of what we needed in that movie because
people needed something to ground. You needed you needed a
dark Vader, you needed a Hannibal Lecter, you needed a consequence.

(57:58):
It can't be all love in a movie because in
the movie you need all of those contrasts to make
it work. If not, if you don't have a bad guy,
you have no conflict, you don't have a movie.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
I thought he did really an exceptional job with that,
because how can you have those so beautiful? It's dark souls.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
It was dark souls kind of pulling him down, and
you could explain it that that's him and that he's
gonna have to deal with that, and it's his point
of view because of what he's done, the bad guy's done.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
And I thought it was great, actually how we handled
that beautiful really great? Was Earthbound Spirit? The guy stuck
on the subway.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
I love that he was something to Stubb, but he
just all he would do is right around and he
got angry train and then and he kicked off Patrick
Swayzey out of the train and all that stuff. But
there's this scene, a very famous scene in the movie
where Whoopee allows Demi Moore to come in and connect

(58:51):
with it, allows Sam to come in or Patrick Swayzey
to come in through her so he could touch Demi
and they have this beautiful scene together. Yes, that was
the one part. You're like, well, tell me, how would that?
Tell me? Tell me how that scene does that even exist?

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Or if it did, how could I might be wrong, Yeah,
but I'm a purist when it comes to me.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
We've noticed that about.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Purists and that's physical mediumship. So in physical mediumship, and
I've been with many physical mediums, it's a rarity of
physical mediumship. I have been with Leslie Finn, the most
famous of the twentieth century, and voice box up here
in the air and spirit coming through and it sound
just like the spirit My mother came through, my guides
came through their way. And I know in physical mediumship,

(59:38):
even in trance mediumship, that that you go down to
such a level of consciousness that you're slipping down. You're
always aware of what's going on, but as you're slipping down,
you're going down to a lower, lower, lower, lower consciousness
conscious state, and that you're allowing that soul to come
in to you through you, which is fine. Happens you're
where of it, and they can speak through you. And

(59:59):
there are many times observe spiritual can walk and they
can stand up and walk around the room.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Now I have been taught. Now might be wrong, but
I don't think it is that when you're someone's entranced,
which in this case would be was supposedly in trance,
that they wouldn't be able to hold a physical person
who does know what it would hurt the vibration of
the soul that cause internal bleeding.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
They've ever heard, and yeah, I gotta imagine physical.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
That's a hard one. So that to me was it
works for the movie, and of course it works for
the movie. But I was like, yeah, well yeah, but
again that's teaching the public not the right way. And James, James,
I know, but I'm in it, so I can't help it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
I get it. But overall, the I think the positive
aspect of the of the film and the story overways
the one scene in my opinion. But you're right, But
also you have to have some creative license. You have
to have like that and that move that scene was
so beautiful, you know, on a creative standpoint or a
story standpoint, it worked beautifully.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
I thought it was kind of creepy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
It was beautiful until you realize, until you realize that
it will be birday with them in morning, Like, well,
it's kind of like when you watch Back to the
Future and you're like, which, I've never seen James, James,
when you get home this week, I've never seen it. James,
you have to watch Back to the Future. Well in

(01:01:35):
that movie, his mother falls in love with him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I've heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Yeah, so there's like that whole creepy like right, it's
just like what is happening? You know, so when you're real,
but in the story it makes perfect sense and it flows.
So now you were mentioning to me yesterday actually at
the conference, you mentioned this that April of this year
something that little coffee.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Drink, A little coffee drink, a little Bailey's with you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
That April of this year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
It's a rough time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
It's a rough time, like apparently, I don't know when
this is going to be. This will probably be aired
probably within the month of April.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Okay, okay, So I'm going to try to It hasn't
happened yet.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
It hasn't happened yet, but I'm going to try to
get it out before the month is over. So the
the the March, to my understanding, was the end of
an era of some sort, like in the cycle, there
was a cycle that ended. Astrologically, the Yugas, all things
like kind of combined.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
I've had seven planets and pisces.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Yeah, like I had Chinese astrologers, I had Vedic astrologers
I had Western they all said the same thing about
the Yugas and about the cycle. So March ended that.
So April is kind of the first month of the
new cycle. So can you explain what is happening now?

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
And I'm limited with my astrology, so forgive me for that,
But what I've heard and what it feels like to
me is there definitely is an end of a cycle
in beginning of a new one, and it's going to
be a cycle that people have to go within themselves.
And so there might be a lot of chaos going
on around us the outside world, which politic is already
happening the United States, so it's like wow, around the world,
around the world. Yeah, I just came from Europe and yes,

(01:03:12):
people looking like you crazy Americans, And you know, it's
just it's gonna be some conflicts going on, and there's
gonna be some severe stuff happening, not only weatherwise, which
actually I predicted these weather changes about a year ago
and my podcast and there's April is a month of assassinations.
You know when I say that, what I mean by

(01:03:33):
that is I'm my good friend Kelly White, who I
work with, really was the one who mentioned this astrologically,
because you have these seven plants and pisces, you have
the moon eclipses. It's really too from going from a
water into fire time. There's a lot of stuff going
on there. So the exact astrological aspects that happened in

(01:03:55):
June of nineteen sixty eight, which I remember very well
when RFK was assassinated and then Martin MLKA Martin Luther King,
we have the exact same down to the zero degree,
exact degree of that assassination time. We have those planets
exactly in April, so for two or three weeks in April,
so it should be a rough time. There could be assassinations.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Really, I don't know whom, but I'm not saying I'm
not saying we'll talk off there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Ah No, but it could happen. It's it's it's will
it happen. I don't know, but it is, it's there.
It's the possible.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
The key thing that you said, though, is that it's
going to these times that are coming are going to
force us to go in and uh. I did a
talk at the conference yesterday where I was talking like
when you start to look inward, it's either happening in
a moment of chaos, a moment of great pain or

(01:04:50):
loss of love or life, or something like something close
to you, or in great beauty. Those are three things
that focus that force you to go inward. It's a trigger.
It's interesting because like I was, like, you know, when
you're in the Amalfi Coast on a on a yacht,
drinking champagne, eating lobster, you're not looking for Jesus. You're

(01:05:14):
not looking for Jesus when you know, you're not really looking.
He's not lost, but you're not really looking for salvation.
You're not looking for Buddha. You're not looking for and
you're not looking inward because you're enjoying the outwards so much.
Only when you lose everything, or you take a punch
or you do that's when you go, I gotta look

(01:05:35):
into the pandemic was that, Yes, pandemic shocked the world
to like start to look and that started this awakening
really like hard. It really like jump started.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
It's not over. Oh, I know we were far from
and now we're gonna have another one as well. And
I was like, we're gonna have another pandemic, And sure
enough I read the other day about this fungus that
they cannot control and so all the world and that's
kind of a fungus that's growing, and I think, yeah, lovely,
I think, what another one of these pandemics. And I
think that the world's going to go through some wars.
I think it's been a rough, rough time and I

(01:06:05):
think the world that we knew is bye bye. I
think it's a new world coming, and I think it's
going to take a lot of changes and people's belief systems,
and you know, it's already happening.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
I mean, systems are falling. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
I predicted that two years ago that the institutions. It's
on My Prediction show. The institution is going to be
falling apart, and they're already started. You know. You know,
Musk has changed things around and move things around.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
So politics, religion, so all of the religions won't Hollywood Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
I also think, though that Alex said, I really believe
that there's gonna be so much negativity that people don't
want to watch television. They don't want to watch a
lot of people don't watch news. I don't watch news.
It's happening, and they're going to turn televisions off and
go back to the internet. And so I think studios
it's going to be a hard time for people in
the industry because people are going.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
To want to watch that, They're going to want to
be I mean, our show gets more ratings than a
lot of the news shows.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Yeah, it's insane, it's insane, but this is real. People.
People want positivity and something that speaks to their soul,
not negative negative. They don't want negativity anymore. They won't
be able to take it anymore, especially when they're living it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
They can't have yeah, exactly, And that's why Hollywood's having
such a tough time as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be changed in the industries.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
It's gonna change medical industry, healthcare, banking, financial, all of them.
You see the crocks happening around us everywhere, and it's
it's and then land changes too, So the land changes
meaning just land changes, a lot of water, hurricanes, a
lot of water, you know, flooding, lots of flooding happening,

(01:07:45):
especially the pisces and planets of prices, which is water.
And yeah, you're gonna have a lot of volcanic You're
gonna have a lot of changes coming up next year.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Yeah, very true.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
This is April. What's what do you foresee happening as
far as a timeline, because it's God, it's moving.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
So fast, James, It's so fast.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I mean, from twenty twenty every year seems like a decade. Yeah,
I mean in the amount of stuff. I mean, you've
been on the on the earth for quite some time.
You know. I was born in the seventies. From what
I've seen in the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Sun, I was going to discos in the seventies, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Thank you. I appreciate that I was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I lived Saturday Night Live.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
I live that exactly exactly. But even from the moment
when I was born, the seventies, the eighties, the nineties,
I saw things speeding up, like and I always use
this example, like VHS shows up, and it takes a
decade or so before it really starts to hit. It's like,
you know, it peaks, you know, probably midway through, but

(01:08:44):
it was about a decade, fifteen years. And then DVD
shows up, and the DVD it picks up much quicker.
And then what cable was in there somewhere as well,
and then streaming kicks in.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
And then get you on my DVDs.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Remember, yes exactly, And all of a sudden, everything's just
started changing. Streaming showed up, then music changed, and publishing
change and it's just like and everything now is so
fat Ai is speeding things up like crazy. So I
can't I just in these last five years, twenty twenty

(01:09:17):
has been this decade has been started off literally with
a bang. This year has been no different. I mean
we started off, oh my god, crazy around the world
and things are happening. So what do you foresee like
for the rest of this year and just the next
five years? Where do you see us in twenty thirty?
You know, as like with all the stuff we're talking about,

(01:09:39):
how much of this the system is going to be
really brought down and a new one come up in
its space.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Well that's what's going to happen right now. Is just
commenting on what you said. I feel like when it's centrifuge,
maybe he's thrown around, thrown around. And there are times
I call them some friends of mine that say, do
you feel this energy happening? Yes, it's so fair, so quick,
and it feels as if it's you know, a tidal wave,
you know, waiting to happen or win it. It's a

(01:10:06):
whirlpool and it goes faster and faster, and it's it's
gotten to a point now and I know them older,
but I gave up more day. It is what the
time is. And I look at my phone to know,
you know, it wasn't really a Monday. It was because
I just can't hold on to it anymore. It's like
I can't retain. And people that are young, when I say,
but yeah, I can't, thirty year old's like, I don't

(01:10:28):
know what day it is. It's just so quick and
so fast. So all you got to is back, keep
on grounding yourself, get back to your own heart, you know,
don't get caught up in the speed of it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I think it's gonna be breakdown, so I think no
doubt about it. I think there's gonna be a breakdown.
I think our government is gonna change in a way
which is already starting to but it's gonna be very made.
It's gonna be brought down and then it's gonna I
think it's gonna happen little, maybe more like little communities
will start up because things gonna be broken and people
aren't gonna be heard, but they will come back to

(01:11:12):
kind of like attracts, like the own little communities of
what they're into, what their interests are, and that's how
it's gonna go back up. I just think everything's gonna
be questioned. I think there's gonna be upheaval. I think
it's gonna be I'm sorry to paint the negative picture,
but I do believe it's time for us to break
down and start up again. So it's gonna be rough.

(01:11:33):
I think it's gonna be a depression.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I do. I think it's a depression, like depression economically.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
And economically economically. Yeah, I'm already loading up my garage
with extra things. I had a vision two years ago,
like a CVS or Walters, and the shells were empty.
And then he went two months ago and looking, and
some shelves will start to be empty. So it's gonna
be you know. I feel like medical supplies will be limited.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Well, we went through this pandemic.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Yeah, it's got even worth, so it's yours and it's
just starting. Sorry to be the bearer of but everybody
knows it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
But the thing is, and the reason I talk about
this as much as I do on the show is
because I want people to be aware of it, and
because as it happens around them, they're going to be confused.
They're going to think about the world's coming to and
I'm like, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
But then what do they do?

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
They go in, They go within. They have to go
they have to they have to go within. And it's
like when in life, and I think you would agree
with me. The universe, spirit guides whoever you want to call,
are guiding you throughout your life. And if you walk
off the path a bit, they whisper in your ear,
tap you on the shoulder, give you a little nudge

(01:12:42):
and you're like, no, no, I can't no, not a
get Then this sledgehammer comes out and knocks you across
the face. I think that's what we're going and it's
going through where humanity is going through. I agree, And
the only way.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
And what happens the values are shift going to shift.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Exactly, And what happens when you have those dark knights
of the soul When you've lost on one, you've lost
your job, you've you've lost everything. When you have that
kind of outside pressure. That's when you are forced to
go in exactly. So that is what unfortunately has to
happen because we have not listened to the whispers, we
have not listened to the taps, we have not listened

(01:13:16):
to the nudges. And now the sledgehammers are coming out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
Sledgehammers are coming out, and then we got to got
to go to our next level soul.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Just saying I had no idea that that name.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
I'm just saying we do what it does because it's
really because I was your higher self giving you that
literally meditation.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Do you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
No, I don't know that I missed out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
I was when I was doing the show, when I
was creating the show in three weeks, because my spirit
guide told me my living he.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Built the studio in like three days. I did that.
The studio was like a little bit and it's quality.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
So I appreciate you. But my spirit guyed Connie, she
told me to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Way to slow down. Your spirit guy's name was.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Con Her name is Connie. She's alive. She's been with
me since I was twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
My adopted mother's name was Connie, and she was the
one who will help me believe in myself. And I
wouldn't be here without her. And my first book is
dedicated to her.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
And now you know, now we have another thing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
So Connie, Connie, who's been on the show. She was
actually released last week as of this recording her sixth
interview on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Wow, she's a star now, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Impossible to deal goods eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Oh God bless her.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
And she's still cooking deal, still doing one on ones,
all that kind of stuff. And she told me, hey,
you have to do a show, a spiritual show. And
I said, you're insane, what's wrong with you? She's like, yeah,
doing it. You got to do in three weeks because
three weeks it's Easter and that's a good time to
launch the show. So I was so dismissive of this
whole story. I'm like me spiritual podcast, Like it made

(01:14:50):
no sense to right. So I kind of challenged the
universe before I went into a meditation. I go, okay, Universe, Okay, God,
you want me to do a show about spirituality. I
need a name. I need a name that's trademarkable. I
need a name that I have. I could get all
the u r LS and the social I need that.
I need a name that no one's used in the
spiritual world or the New Age movement, good luck, because

(01:15:13):
everything's been abused a thousand times. I went into my
meditation at three words popped into my head. Wow, next
level Soul. I was like, that's a pretty cool name.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
That's pretty great.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
And I was like, holy crap. And now it's like
you can start seeing people using like next level Soul.
You have to go to become a next level Soul.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
And I was like, holy, you started the movement.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
I'm like, holy, yeah, that's pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
It's I understand that I have no I'm nothing about you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
It's I'm just like you. I'm a vessel, the instrument.
I'm the instrument of it all. You know. I do
the heavy lifting, but they push.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
And now you're all over the world.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Hello international. Your Spanish episodes, your Spanish episodes are fantastic.
They oh they do great. Yeah, we translated you and
you've been translated into six languages. Wow. Uh and it's
with AI and it's people just love it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
So yeah, and we're going to continue to go into
the Spanish markets. In German markets are very big.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Yeah, those are the two markets that we're really going
to start focusing on more and more, probably late this year.
We have a bunch of it, but we're going to
go back.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
I go there, I'll go there with you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
I appreciate it. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
I really believe that your mission is to help evolve
souls and go to that next level.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
And it's going to happen when people are when the
other side is trying to talk to us. What are
some of the things that we should look out for,
because there's so many people listening right now, Janes who
want to connect with their mom, their dad, their friend,
their dog, whatever it is. What are the kind of
things that we should keep an eye out for. Synchronicities,

(01:16:47):
if you will to do it. I told you a
story yesterday on stage. You remember my aunt?

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
What's your name?

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Take another shop? Yes? No, we were talking on the
stage before you went. When you did your talk, I
walked you up and I like, oh, I gotta tell
you a story about my aunt who died.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Yes, keep on going.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
So my aunt died, My favorite aunt died. And then
you said, she's very proud of you, she's here. I
was like okay, and then and then I said, two
days after she died, I was doing a project where
I was looking at old VHS's and like recording them
for something I was doing, and all of a sudden,
a video of two minute test video I did because

(01:17:27):
I had I was like in college, and I had
a new Steady Cam Junior that we had and I
was testing it out on a high eight camera and
I recorded Thanksgiving dinner and she was there with my grandma,
my other aunt, and my father. My father's still love
but my father was there. Uh. He was a little
bit young, a little bit older than I am, not now,

(01:17:49):
and all that was happening, and I was like two
days after she died, and I asked you, I asked you.
I mean, the coincidence is so remarkable. There's no reason
I would have I didn't remember shooting it. Only after
it's like, oh god, yeah, oh wow, I remember that now,
but I didn't. I didn't recollect it that it was
so specific. And you said on stage yesterday, you said

(01:18:13):
that's what they do. They can influence things. So can
you explain that? Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I mean, it's hard for a lot of us to understand.
It's three dimensional world. But I will say that coincidences
God's way of remanding anonymous. And the spirit world can
pull strings if you want, and they can make things happen,
and they can influence the animal kingdom, birds and insects.
And my brother just recently passed over. As he said

(01:18:39):
the other day, he said, listen, come, you came to me,
and he came to me when I was taking a shower.
So they'll tend to come to you when you open
up your mind. So when people want to talk to
loved ones, you got to surrender. You got to soften
the mind so they come to you. So like when
you're reading a book, all of a sudden you'll get
some information. You're driving the car because you're not thinking,
so you're not in the headspace. So as I said yesterday,

(01:19:01):
and I always say, head to heart, you got to
go from your heart. So when you surrender into that space,
I'm just opening up and just letting it be. Don't
force it. It's easier for them to come through. So
my brother came through with them the other day and
he said to me, the flag, the flag, the flag.
Now I was shaving. I think it was after me,
and he said, like, don't forget the flag, Like, okay,

(01:19:22):
I don't forget the flag, and so throughout the day
I'm like, look at the flag. I don't know about
the flag. Three days before, I was in my backyard
and there, oh, there's a little part of the building
here that does termite damage. Him got a fun and
it's an insect person, a specialist. So I was like, okay,
that was on my mind. And then I'm looking that
day for the flag. I pull into a parking lot

(01:19:43):
and right next to me is a van which has
a big red, white blue flag all around it and
it's the insect Finder. Now, what are the odds of
that happening? I'm sure that was the flag. So because
they're outside of time, they can and do things with
time because they remember things happen over there first than

(01:20:04):
they do here. Here's the last place that things materialize,
So they can create things over there in a way,
and they will materialize here. And the number one way
they come through to us is a dream state. That's
because we're not thinking, so the dream state, but there
are other ways they can influence, Like I said, birds
and insects and so forth. They'm driving my car and
all of a sudden it's stopping at a red light

(01:20:24):
and a bee just went. It's like cleaning itself. And
I'm saying, oh hi, my brother I Mike, and I
was like, sh a fool of Now, could that have
just happened? Yes, But of all places to get my attention,
they try to get our attention, and they will influence
our mind to a point where we look at something
when there's a signed with their name on it or
something else. So they can influence our mind in that

(01:20:46):
respct if we're open minded.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor.
And now back to the show. You see. Have you
ever had things manifest in front of you? Yes, like
bugs or something that manifest and there's no natural reason

(01:21:10):
for it to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Yes, but yes. I was talking to a good friend
of mine on the phone and we're talking about a
friend of hers who lost a partner and that I
think he found a ring on the table or something.
And as I'm speaking with her, her partner had passed over.
And as she's telling me this story, I heard ding huh,
And I said hold on, And I walked to my

(01:21:34):
washerman dryer in the other room, and there was a
little ring that was a female's ring didn't belong to me,
didn't blog my roommate and I told her about it.
I said, this is a ring. I said, this looks
like kind of you're kind of a ring.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
I sent it to her and it fit her perfectly,
and I knew it was from her husband. So that happened.
A couple of those types of things happened. Yeah, weird thing,
a lot of coins. My sister passed over. She loved
dimes and she's to work with the dimes coming through.
She wrote a book about dimes. Well, if tree passed,
I'm making my bed. In the middle of bed, there's
a dime. I go to my truck in the middle seat,

(01:22:08):
there's a dime. My sister's going putting our boots on.
There's a dime in the boots. So they can manifest.
These things happens like that. Another experience I had which
is really pretty amazing and it's rare. I've had a
lot of incredible mediumistic experiences. When I was in Brazil,
I used to go to Brazil quite a bit. I
used to bring spiritual well groups down to go to
spiritual centers throughout Brazil, and one of the times I

(01:22:30):
was there. There's a place called the Frey Luise Center.
It's outside of Rio, and there's I guess, I guess
it was an age sery of adoption for kids. But
it's run by two hundred mediums and once a month.
This is years ago to know they still do this.
But fifteen years ago, twenty years ago, when I was there,
they called me and said, we would like you to
attend a seance, a healing with everybody here. There's going

(01:22:55):
to be what's called the materialization. I said, okay, so
I didn't really know, but there's a substance called ectoplasm
that everybody has. This substence ectoplasm the cellular I guess
you could say these way to look at it. But
mediums have more of it than most people, and physical
mediums have most a lot, a lot of it. So

(01:23:15):
I was invited to go to this very special once
in a month house in the hill, in the space
called Frey Louise Center, and my group was in another
part of Brazil, and I had a fly to Rio
and I'd be there five thirty in the morning and
we're just white cotton garments, no drinking, sex or red meat.
In forty eight hours, so I was good, So forty

(01:23:35):
hours and you go there to five thirty morning. You
just sit and meditate in it's a darkened space and
there's chairs, and then there's like a little bit of
a stage. And what happens is they bring the sickest
children every month, like the cots, five at a time,
and they bring them in. They put in the cots,
and then what happens is, I'm sitting there and I'm
watching the vapor. This is vapor starts up from all

(01:23:59):
everyone and I had to wear a vapor in your man.
I didn't feel anything this vapor and it forms into
these feet and the legs and it's building up like huh,
and it literally forms the materialization of a doctor. A
doctor yeah yeah, with a white coat and holding some
kind of a crystal that is a rainbow color. And

(01:24:22):
you can see it's moving. This light's moving's on the rainbow.
And his doctor appears wearing a mask. And it wasn't
someone who dressed up. Because we were watching it, I'm
very cynical, nuts at all, very skeptical, and I'm like
looking saying, oh my gosh. And they bring up the
kids and this being goes to you know, each kid
and that holds this crystal rod and goes to different

(01:24:42):
areas of the body, and then the other kids go
on and did the second time, thinking, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
I'd love to get this done.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
I'd love to go up there and you swear to you.
Within seconds, one of the mediums that we're helping out
this personal stage had a red flash and they go, come,
you come, So who knows mister heard me. I went
up to the stage, laid down on the cot and
I'm waiting and most people probably go up there and
they're like closing their eyes to receive it. Not me. No,

(01:25:09):
I had to feel up the spirit. So because for me,
I had to know this was real. Sure it was solid.
I felt it's like and it took this crystal thing.
Oh yeah, and it took this crystal rod and went
right to my stiller plexus and then it just happened
but four seconds, maybe four to five seconds, and it

(01:25:29):
moved on and then after that to take you down.
And afterwards we all went and had some cake, some
tea and some cakes, and you felt like you had surgery.
And that's exactly what it felt like. And they're just
bringing it back. Well two weeks later I went back
to Los Angeles where I lived, and I went to
my doctor and she looked at me and she said,
what happened to your ulcer? You had an ulcer before

(01:25:50):
I left Brazil. You don't have an ulcer anymore. What happened?

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
I said, you know, Brazilian nuts, Brazilian nuts, lots of
Brazilian And that was my experience with the materialization of
a spirit. And I FELTSI had a materialization with a
physical spirit with Leslie Flint, who is a very people
go online and he was the greatest medium, physical medium
in last twenty century, where you know, there are artificial

(01:26:14):
voice box would appear based upon the ectoplasm and people
would speak through the voice box and we're a to Valentino,
Queen Victoria, all the very famous people. And my mother
came through and I had the son Cassetti and she said,
I want to speak to James and met James.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Here's my nickname. Then a frenchman came through and he says,
I need to talk to Jams James, can you hear me?
And I'm like freaking out. This is before I got
into my media. I was just in a development circle.
And he said we are missed, James, James, who are
many here? It's back in nineteen ninety maybe, but many
here who are leaving? You love your psyche sensitive And

(01:26:50):
I have this on it. Hey, he said, you are
going to do many works, my friend. We are here
to help you. You will write a book. One day,
you will travel over water. What we say now you
will not know. But from now you'll understand this. And
I have this on tape and should have happened exactly
as that spirit said. So I mean it really Yeah.
So when you have those experiences and all the readings

(01:27:11):
I've done, and how far along on your on your development.
I was just starting to begin my development. I wasn't
even doing readings yet. I was still seeing the development.
I've never heard of this voice box, Oh, Leslie Flint.
You should look him up. I've never heard of that
artificial voice.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
Has that ever been filmed?

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Yes, you should look him up. He's online Leslie Flint Foundation,
and you can hear all the voices. There was a scientists,
a couple Betty Woods and something Green, mister Green, and
they tape from nineteen forty, probably in nineteen sixty five.
A lot of the sessions so it's all on cassette tape.
You can hear them. And then there was some he

(01:27:49):
was a guy's most tested medium in the world. They
would tape his mouth up like seven times and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Yeah, to try to prove him wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
But he was wrong, but he wasn't And it was
just he used to go as a eleven year old
boy into the movie theaters, into the cinema in London
and people say s sh because their voices appeared in
the dark all around him. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
So has anyone else Have you heard of anyone else?

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
No, I have not heard of anybody else doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
So that was something very so unique.

Speaker 2 (01:28:18):
That was something so unique, and it was very interesting.
I was sitting with Leslie before the Sands started and
was sitting there and I was just I was working,
you know, doing paralegal work and starting seeing the development
circle and there was a television over in the corner
of the room. He goes, James very deep, was James. Yes,
because you see that box over there. I said, yes,
he goes, one day, you're going to be on that.

(01:28:40):
He goes, you need to use it responsibly. Yeah, wow,
that wild.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
So that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
Yesterday you spoke about the life review. Yes, and anyone
who's ever seen a near death experience on the show
knows that life reviews are not always part of a
near death experience. There are not always going over the
other side, but a near death experience, not always.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
And every life review is different, correct.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Correct, Yeah, like once you go over, it's different than
a life review that it's in and out right, Can
you explain to people from your point of view what
that life review is, because yes, it keeps you on
the straight and narrow.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Well, it's funny you asked me because I was going
to do a ted talk about this and I still might,
but it's really important to the life review and I
think it's just yeah, I said yesterday to the group.
So when we first pass out of this physical vibration,
it's three dimensional. Where we go to, we're free. The
sense of weight is gone, you feel your memory comes

(01:29:40):
back to who you really are. There's a sense of
just complete peace and love and harmony and people that
will come greet you. Everybody is met by somebody. There's
a reception. Before my brother passed over, they would show
me like a village of people coming to meet him
in this reception hall, and it was pretty incredible, and
so from his point of view too, I can tell you.

(01:30:02):
But when you first pass over, everybody goes to their
own memorial service, right, So usually I'm not seeing happens
at this exact time because everyone's experienced different. They'll go
to their funerals, if the memorial service or or wake.
So let's say my sister went to her wake. I'm
sitting there, raised Catholic. She wanted a wake. We're sitting
there and I heard her say, what's going on? I said, well,
this is your wake. What do you mean this is

(01:30:23):
such a waste of people's time. I can't said, well,
this is what you want. He goes, oh, I can't
believe I wanted this. So it's very interesting. She getting
right back and said that, but there's a life for you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
We will go to there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
So after our funerals the momorial stairs, we go to
other side. We met our loved ones, and we go
through it. It can happen in different ways. They say
they can go to a kind of hall where it's
kind of like a hospital, but not kind of like
our hospitals. It's a place of relaxation and within that space. Remember,
there's no time, So you become aware of every situation
you've just lived in the physical life, and you see it,

(01:30:57):
feel it, and experience it from not only your point
of view, but the other person's point of view. So
and you see it, feel it, and experience from their
point of view. So let's say you went and you robbed.
Someone went in and they robbed, And this actually was
a true story of what my readings this ment Chris.
He went in and he robbed a convenience store where
he attempted to and he said, when he came through

(01:31:19):
to his mother, you know one of the things that happens.
I remember this convenience store, and she gave me the money,
and the money fell through the bag and I left
and he goes. But then over here I had to
relive that I really did so strongly ten times twenty times,
thirty times stronger from when it really happened, and I
became the cash registered person. I stole money. I felt
all of her fear, all of her upsetment, and it

(01:31:42):
was so strong, and I was like, and then I
felt the coworker who also felt that feeling of oh
my gosh, this fear and the upsetment and then home
with the family. When she went home, I had to
feel all their feelings of oh goodness, gracious is terrible.
And he said it was so strong that it weighed
him down for a long time. It weighed him down,

(01:32:03):
and that he was a response for all this bad
energy and he to relive it. And he realized he
created that, and I said wow, and it held him
back and said I was in a living hell that
I created and I couldn't get out of it until
I just kind of understood things. I just couldn't get
out of that. And I said, well, how did you
eventually get out of it? He said, well, James, I

(01:32:24):
did some good in my life and when I was
and it's almost like what you could talk on nearest
experience with someone said, get out of the darkness. I've
lived it. Let me guess where else. He had an
awareness that or a guide came said, also, look at
other parts of your life and the other parts he
did some good things and this had concentrate on that,
and it pulled him out of that mindset and he

(01:32:45):
was able to forgive himself right. So one of the
hardest things we passed over is hard to forgive ourselves
for things we did and things we didn't do. So
my sister recently, my father came through and said to
me my sister, I said, is my sister Lynn? He goes, well,
she's kind of you're still having a life review. And
just look at all the opportunities that she didn't take
for loving herself and for loving others.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
So if we can have a life review where we're
still in the physical body, wow, wouldn't we be different?

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
That's what endears are when they come back, they change.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
They change, but they just think of everybody in the
public could have a life review now, not dying for it.
You could it while you're instill in the body and
just could reflect on your life and realize the things
that you did or didn't do, and ways you'd like
to forgive and maybe just have it now. Boy, you
could change things up and you wouldn't carry that over
with you and you really would start living a different
type of life. You'd be living a more responsible life

(01:33:40):
with your thoughts, words and deeds. And like I said
yesterday in the conference, if the world leaders could realize that,
oh my god, wouldn't we change? Wouldn't they change if
they could just realize the responsibility. You know, they have
to go to a certain level to be open to this. Obviously,
which will happen evente really not in my lifetime, but
I just think that, Boy, wouldn't it be a different

(01:34:02):
world if people were aware of the responsibility of their thoughts?
Words it needs. Thoughts are powerful thoughts. I see thought.
I see thought as a color. I see the design,
the symbol, the density. I see them when you know,
when I walk into a room and I see people,
You know, when you say, oh, they're always around you.
I'm closed, but not fully No one's liver fully closed.

(01:34:23):
But I'm much more aware now because I'm getting older
or whatever it might be. I live in nature that
I see people's thoughts. I see people with energy, to
see their org fields or the energy fields I see
when they shift from word of unconditional love. How it
changes the colors around them, the fields around them, right,
and it changed their whole dynamic. And that love again,

(01:34:46):
if we'd send that to someone, Wow, imagine how you
can influence someone with that loving energy and that opens
the other person up and that loving energy so it's
pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
Let me ask you one last question before we finish up.

Speaker 2 (01:34:59):
You finished, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
You fall back down here.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
I got to go back to sane.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Yeah, this whole thing that we're going through, the awakening,
and there's difficult times that we're going to be going through.
I call it a rough waters roller coaster. You know,
there's going to be some ups and downs all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
I just like, hold on, kids, Kid's going to be
all a run.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
How long do you see this happening? And when do
we start seeing the light on the end of the tunnel?

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Hard to say because we're talking about it, you know,
not a linear thing. I think we started seeing in April.
I think we've already started seeing starts on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
The on the we know the negative stuff. But when
when is this the positive? And you think is it
five years? Is a ten years? Is it twenty years? Well,
I know it's gonna be subtle, it's not gonna be overnight,
but I think within five years, within five years, we'll
start start We'll turned the corner. Yeah, okay, so this again,
this decade, this is a pivotal decade.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
It's pivotal decade and it'll be a lot of souls
that leave. It'll be an exit point for a lot
of souls. Yeah, it's almost say that. You know, minds
if you have a shoe and somebody's gonna they had
a lot of mud in the shoe, and you get
to shake it off in order to write, in order
to walk clear easier.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Right, And a lot of the a lot of the
generations that are not as open as you, older generations
that are stuck in the old ways, they have to
essentially tie off, so the things change, companies and governments
and all that. But because I have hope, because I
have kids, and the younger generation is not like my

(01:36:25):
generation or your generation. They look at things so differently.
There's so much more tapped in.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
But remember Alex said, those souls chose to come back
at this period of time. They chose this time because
they're very different than we are, very different because they
are a different vibrations, they're different different understanding, different soul groups.
And then the world will change because and they'll be
adaptable to that world change. Me being older looking down, say, wow,
I can't even figure this out. I couldn't build the studio,

(01:36:53):
build the desk, And you know, it's just it's amazing
to see as you can old things, change things faster,
and there's also a part of well maybe because of work.
It is it's like, Okay, I'm ready to go when
its time is right because I've been and I've done it.
The world is so different. I mean, not that I
want to be here, but I'm like, yeah, I get it.
I get it, and I get the changes. And I think,

(01:37:15):
but you're part of that change. Yeah, and so are
you next level soul because you're going to do more
work your your Your work's gonna be you know, much
more accessible. I can say it that way. I think
there's going to be a whole new I don't know,
a whole new way I'm going to say. I said,
you canna have a studio, you want to be bigger, movies, more,
another way of doing things. Maybe it's the internet. I

(01:37:37):
don't know. I think it's gonna be another some kind
of other media thing going on.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
We've got a lot of plans and I'm going to
ask you a few questions. Ask on my guests, what
is your definition of living a.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
Fulfilled life, living with an awareness of doing the right
thing all the time and influencing others with finding the
best in everybody, And maybe letting them know about if
they don't know for themselves, and I would soullustrated that
that love, that energy of love making someone else's Wow.

(01:38:09):
I feel like my life was filled if I can
look back on the slide and say, wow, I've left
the world a better place than I found it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
If you had a chance to go back in time
and speak to little James, what advice would you give him?

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Don't come back. I would just say don't be as judgmental, critical,
and that everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Has a story. How do you define God or source?

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
One? One is oh, any omnipresent, nurturing energy, beautiful, thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
What is love?

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
God?

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Love us? You? Me?

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Everyone? Everyone is love? Everything is love.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
If you could ask God one question, what would it be?

Speaker 2 (01:38:53):
Believe in God? Even whichever, What would it be?

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
If you if you had a chance to ask the
source of all of this a question, what would it be?

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
Why? Why?

Speaker 1 (01:39:06):
Why? Is a great question? Yeah, And finally, what is
the ultimate purpose of life? Love?

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
Self?

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Love? Love?

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
I think really love of self and love of others.
I think that's really what it's about.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
Beautiful answer and.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Seeing yourself and someone else.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
Yeah, Yeah, it's good stuff that Jesus talked.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
About Jesus has been around, you know, among other masters,
probably walking with them in those.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
And it was just simple. It's your simple core.

Speaker 2 (01:39:33):
The truths are very simple. It's it's the human being
that wants to get caught up with the complexity of
the simplicity. That's really what humans do. That's really really simple.
It's love or fear, but they wouldn't get caught up
in complexity.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
That's really Where can people find out more about you
and the amazing work you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
I have a school online called the JVP School of
Mystical Arts the forty one courses, and then I have
a website Vanprague dot com v A N P r
A g H dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
And do you have any party messages for the audience, James.

Speaker 2 (01:39:59):
Be yourself. Everybody else has taken.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
James, it is such a pleasure, my friend for coming
on the show. I absolutely adore you. I adore everything
that you've not only done in the past, but what
you're continuing to do in this life and helping a
waken the planet.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
So thank you, thank you, Alex appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
I'd like to thank James so much for coming on
the show and sharing his knowledge and wisdom with all
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