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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Night Vision Vision. Following clues left by our ancestors, we
unbury the past to reveal a knowledge of unfathomable value,
putting us just a little closer to our own true birthrights.
From the secret history of a possible bloodline of Jesus Christ,
a secret history of America's founders, to the secret history
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of extraterrestrial interaction on our planet. Here to bring light
to the night. Your host for night Vision Radio Renee Barnett.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hey, guys, how are you welcome back to night Vision
or welcome to night Vision if you haven't been here before.
Happy to have everyone here. Before I bring on my guests,
I just want to share a little story. I'm the
I don't know if you guys know, but I'm the
editor in chief of the newsletter for KGRA, And in
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last month's issue, I covered a story of an American
hero who was killed in World War Two near a
small village in France. And he was killed on August seventeenth,
nineteen forty four, and his name was Lieutenant Paul Swank.
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He single handedly held off two thousand German soldiers until
the rest of the men, which were a ragtag little
team of some Spanish explosive experts. Just therefore, a little
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ragtag bunch of American soldiers that dropped out of the
sky earlier that day, and the French resistant spiders the Maquis,
and they rescued a truckload of hostages that the Germans
had taken, and then they managed to hold off with
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the help of Paul Swink. The Germans were trying to
get down the road to the little village of Queza,
where they had a big depository of munitions and food
and other supplies to replenish the German army. Well they
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didn't make it because of Paul Swink, and they ended
up turning around and they never ever came back to
that region again. So every August seventeenth to this day,
the villagers there celebrate took Paul Swink and oh, I've
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got a good part. He was killed there. They shipped
his body back home to Missouri, but then among his
papers they found his wishes to be buried where he fell.
So it was a big bunch of red tape involving
the American Embassy the French embassy. But they finally returned
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his body back to the village of Alet Leban and
he was entombed there in a monument erected there, And
I have to tell you, I spent a lot of
time in that area, and I've probably passed that monument
at least a hundred times, noticing it but not really
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noticing it. And then recently I found out what it
really was. And it wasn't long before the anniversary coming up,
and I wished so much that I could be there
to put some flowers or lay a little American flag
on his grave. On that day, the villagers have a
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ceremony where they honor the soldiers of France and the
Allied soldiers, and then they all walk to the tomb
of Lieutenant Paul Swag, which is not a short walk either.
So I got hold of an American friend of mine
living nearby in Carcasson and said, Hey, have you you
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know this story? And I told him and I said,
how would you feel about hopping in the car and
going over there and taking some photographs for me? And
maybe you could pick up a flower or at least
pay your respects on my behalf while you're there. That
would make me feel so good. So he did exactly that,
and so I have a follow up story coming out
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in September newsletter. Now, the newsletter is free. All you
have to do is go on grdb dot com up
for it, and we have stories coming in there. Now.
I'm going to have to get hold of our guests
tonight and maybe he'll offer up some stories for the
newsletter as well. But I tell you what, he's got
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a lot of stories that he's going to be covering.
I'm excited to introduce a brand new show to kg
R and a brand new host, and we couldn't be
more excited and pleased. So I'm going to bring him
on right now.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
He is babo, hey, bis good, I'm good, and Paul's
coming to us from south of the border. But he's
hopefully going to make his way right up here with
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me and Los Angeles pretty soon one of these days,
because I think there's a beautiful woman that's waiting for
him up here. It's not me, God knows, it's uh,
it's lovely, it's here, and so he's making his way
our way as soon as he can arrange it.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So we'll be happy to welcome him. Not only the
KGr right.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
She was born She was born in La but she
lives near me. Oh, I thought she looked.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
In LA and that's why you were moving here.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
You want to move here born in a Yes, that's
that's eventually the plan.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Correcting the record, But so Papa has a great YouTube
channel called sicco Activo. You can see the name there
on the screen so you can get the spelling. And
I think I'm pronouncing it right. I haven't been laughed
at you. And but he covers all kinds of things
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from UFOs to paranormal to consciousness, and I would think
many many other things I have. You know, he's brand
new to us, so I've just been getting acquainted with
him and with the show, and I'm so excited. It
looks so interesting. So can you tell us a little
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bit about Number one? How did you get into this
weird world of the paranormal? What drew you in? Because
you actually work a day job that includes the paranormal,
and most of us have to work a regular day job.
And then you know, paranormal is our hobby and our wish,
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but you're actually doing it professionally. So what drew you in?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
My mother started telling me to read a lot of
weird books when I was younger, and when I was
in my early teens, I had a weird experience with
a Mexican shaman from the north of Mexico, and a
lot of other kids had similar experiences on that day.
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And since then I just like started questioning everything and
reading more books. And as I kept reading authors like
a little Frecheto or Carlos Casenea or more authors carl Young,
stuff like that, I just developed like a really keen
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and acute sense of wonder for everything. So since then,
I've always been keen on looking at weird stories, and
I've always been a sci fi nerd too, so it
always went hand in hand pretty well.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, it does. And you know, you were into the
UFOs and the paranormal and also into human consciousness, so
I'm thinking you might have imagined or detected that there
was a link there. Yeah, among all these sense including
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our human consciousness.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
It's all connected, really. But as I've gotten a little
bit more savvy in this space over the last year
or so, I've noticed that there's a group of people
who are controlling this narrative of the UFOs that try
to not talk about consciousness as much as other people
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that are not connected to this effort of government disclosure
you know, and I realize that the reason they're doing this,
This is my assessment, is not something that I think
other people should believe, or if they want to, that's fine,
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but this is what I gathered. What I think is
that you know, how they developed like stargate and remote
viewing and all this stuff that is not considered mainstream
or real per se, but they have spent millions of
dollars in it. So what I've gathered is that they
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are keeping it from the rest of the people because
we do have some potential to do things that are
not considered real, but they are. And yeah, I have
I do consider that. I am living proof of that
because I've had some weird experiences and that's why I
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think that consciousness is like at the very center of everything. Really.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You're talking about when the shaman came and the other
kids also had some strange experience, says, could you describe
any of that? What kind of things heard?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yes, So, back in the day my mother was she
used to take a lot of different courses and psychology
retreats and stuff like that, and she used to get
us involved in it quite a bit. And one of
these experiences she decided to have was going on a
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paotic trip with a native shaman from the north of
the country. So she did. She went with a bunch
of adults, and when she came back, she brought the
shaman with her so we could all meet him. And
it was a chaman from up in the border between
Texas and WUS. You know there's a major was he asked, No,
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he was. What's it called a mayo mayo a mile. Yeah,
they're from the north of Mexico and they're called Marakamis,
that's what they called them. And he is one of
the few people from the Native Americans from there who
has legal access to Payote plants. Because I don't know
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if you know this, but the Payote Reservoir, it's protected
by the government and only people who are born there
and who have Native American blood have access to those
lasts by law, both in Mexico and in the US.
And when he brought this, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I guess it's because it's considered a religious or cultural practice.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yep, that's it. And when he came to the house,
there were a bunch of kids who I grew up
with who were there at the time, and he came
into the dining room and he started like chanting and
doing like these healing ceremonies on different kids.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
And when it was my turn, he grabbed me by
the face and told me to keep my mouth shut
and just started chanting and just grabbed my face and
it felt really warm to the touch, and I just
kept my mouth shot like this, and when he started.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Chanting, I felt like a tooth broke out of my mouth,
and I was like, that's weird. I think I broke
a tooth. And then when I realized that I had
something in my mouth, the chaman just took his hands
out and he was like split it out, and I
was like, how does he know that something happened?
Speaker 6 (13:45):
What the help?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
So I spat it out and it was a little
red rock, like yay big. That seemed like I'm kind
of like one of those one of those sandstones that
you find out the sea by the beach, but it
was like, uh, like red, but like a dark red.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It was.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
It was really strange. That took me through. That took
me down my first rabbit hole ever, Like what is that?
And that's when I started reading up on a lot
of shamanistic traditions and stuff like that when I was in.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
My early teens, did you keep it?
Speaker 4 (14:28):
My mom kept it. I've asked her where she's keeping it.
She's like, I don't know, It's somewhere in there. She
has a lot of like she's kind of a horder
a little bit, so she still has.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
It though she knows it somewhere she's got it. That's
I tell you. I I'm from Oklahoma, and you know,
until recently, I thought, you know, my family was Native
American or you know, like almost a quarter Native American.
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It didn't come out on the DNA test. But now
I'm hearing that sometimes it doesn't show up, and I'm
going to look into more because I mean, I grew
up in my poor little mom. She refused to believe that.
She goes, I know we're Indian. We're Indian. I mean,
my mom used to do all kinds of things, you know,
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with the you know, smudge cedar branches, only we didn't
call smoging. It was smoking smoking yourself with cedar branches.
She used to send me via FedEx cedar branches out
here from Oklahoma so I could use them in my house.
So funny, people say, what is that, Well, it's just
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some cedar branches your mom sending you. But I have
seen some amazing things sitting around the campfire with a
medicine man, and there's no way I could explain it,
you know, but I have seen some pretty wild things.
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And one of them actually had to do with my
little grand baby who was very sick at the time
and hadn't been able to eat for days. And I
told a medicine man and he took her picture and
held it and did a prayer and a ceremony. And
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as soon as we left there, I called my daughter
and he said, she said, she just came and said, Mama,
want milk, Want milk, and she hadn't eaten for a day,
so she was I said, that's two. But there were
many other things on that sad trip, just like that,
that were unexplainable and really interesting. And I was actually
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on that particular particular trip, sorry about that. On that
particular trip, I was working on a documentary on Bigfoot.
It was for a Discovery Channel and it was called Bigfootville.
It was on the air for about fifteen years. It
may still be floating around out there somewhere. But we
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went down to Oklahoma where around where I grew up
and investigated Bigfoot stories and you know, the particularly the
natives that lived you know, around there, especially in the
rural areas. They just said, oh yeah, you know, we
played with the little ones when we were kids, you know.
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And the medicine man said, it's just another tribe. We
don't bother them, they don't bother us. And they had
special names. I think my favorite was with Ehosa. And
this was a seminal medicine. And it means make you forget,
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he said, because you see them, but then you can't
remember it. He said. They sort of have a way
of hypnotizing you so that you don't remember. But yeah,
the natives had some you know, a leg up on
a lot of consciousness and paranormal you know, it's not paranormal,
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it's normal in Indian culture. So I totally get that
whole tribal thing and shamanistic thing. And you have a
shaman in your family, right.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yes, it's actually two of them, and one of them
is learning. My auntie. She started doing. She has a
reservoir and Nyeti, which is near Puerto Ayerta, and they
do Payote Ayahuasca mushroom trips there for tourists and they
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bring shamans from the country where the medicine is usually
given to people. For example, if they do ayahuasca trips,
they bring people from Brazil, from Peru, from different places
in South America. The mushroom trips are mostly Mexican native
from Mexico, so those they they take care of them
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really well. And Payote they have Payoti trips too, they
bring people from the north to do Payoti trips. So yeah,
she and she's always been very acute with managing energy
and all and all of that stuff. And her husband
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is very wise and very I think he has weird
powers if you ask me. And their daughter is the
one that is training right.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Now, right. Yeah. I on that same trip, I met
a guy who was in training. He was training under
this medicine man, and it's the medicine man said, you know,
it's it's it's sad because not many of the young
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people are as interested in the language and the native ways,
and you know, because they've been sort of made to
think that it wasn't all that cool. You know, they're assimilated,
unfortunately into the you know, white European society that doesn't
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really honors types of things and actually could demonize them
for talking about those sort of things because they would
be thought of as you know, demonic or satan or
something like that. You know, Mexico is a largely Catholic country, right, yes,
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So is there any pushback from the church on what
your aunt and uncle are doing there?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Or I think I think that the Church here in
Mexico has a lot of followers, You're right, but most
of them are terrible sinners. So I don't I don't
think there is like really too much power that the
Catholic Church really has in the country right now. If
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if I would were to attribute power to anybody in
my country, it would be the cartels, not a church
nor our religion. So we are we live in cartel land,
especially me who is I am Tijuana. So yeah, you
might imagine how how it is right now. But no,
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especially in the in the smaller towns and little magical
towns as they call them, they're very much embedded into
the shamanistic traditions there because they're closer to nature, and yeah,
that's that's that's basically it. So no, they don't, they
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don't get a lot of pushback, not really, you know,
that's good.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
That's good. Yeah, you know, I can imagine that there
are some places where they might so yeah, so how
do you navigate? Uh? You know, I mean, of course
here we are over here, we don't really know what's
going on. Uh. But you said you're in cartel land.
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How does that change your life? Does it make you
have to act in certain ways or do certain things
at certain hours or what's it like?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Yeah, it depends really, because it depends on how complicated
the situation is at the moment right now here in Tijuana. Yeah,
I live near one of the main and most violent
neighborhoods in the whole city. So we hear gunshots almost daily.
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There's a lot of news almost daily of people getting shot.
But I'm going to be completely honest with you. I
grew up here, and yes there's news of death every
day and a lot of different crimes being committed. But
I've never seen anything in twenty something years that I've
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lived here because I grew up here. But I was
born in Walladajaa in the South. I guess it depends
on the croad you're hanging out with, That's what it depends,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, So there's not like a lot of random crime.
It's it's more you know, gangster against gangster stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, a lot of that. There is a lot of
when when they get like really at war with each other.
There are some instances when they burn vehicles in the
middle of the street, and you do get to see
that sometimes. Uh, like last week there was a shooting
and I guess the people around there, Yeah, they were
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prone to potentially being shot. But it's very rare. Really,
if you're if you're not hanging around those crowds, you're
you're generally safe. Uh, to be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, I mean we always hear you know, all you
go to Mexico and you get kidnapped by the cartels,
and I guess.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
If they see you, if they see you as a
as a as a as a tourist and you visit
the city without knowing dangers that you could get yourself into,
then yes, you are prone to get kidnapped or stuff
like that. If you come to Tijuana, you better come
with a local. They will take you to the spot
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and you'll be safe. That's the advice.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
That's kind of true. A lot of places, you know,
you've got to know where the safe part of town
is and all that kind of stuff, or just you know,
sometimes there's an area where you just might want to
avoid because something's been going on, so always best to
hook up with the locals.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
It is.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You. I can see how your interest in this developed.
I mean it was almost a natural thing, you know,
through your family connections and and and your interest that
you developed. But can you think of can you just share?
I'm so sorry that is so stupid. Can you share,
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you know, maybe a case or two that you know
really caught your eye. I know you cover a lot
of Latin American cases, but also international cases, so take
your pick, you Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
So one of the cases that I'm most interested in
is the search for human potential, which is kind of
tied to my leading case, but not not directly. I
developed a good relationship with a Spanish theoretical physicist called
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Alex Comez Marin, and he's studying how we can develop
human potential through psychic abilities or siah abilities, And this
is something that I've been very interesting interested in for
a while. But I've gotten to study the people who
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have like PhD level knowledge on this, people like doctor
Jeffrey Misch Love or doctor Jeffrey Kripel. These are people
that I really look up to and that I think
are thinking outside the box when it comes to human potential.
When I spoke to Danny Sheehan, the lawyer. Everybody knows Danny,
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he spoke to me about this specifically that he believes
that we are on the brink of some sort of
evolution as a species, and there's there's a lot of
people that are waking up to the reality that is
around us. And I do believe that is real, that
is true. I still think that there's a lot of
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people that are asleep. I'm sorry, yeah, I said. I
keep hearing it from everywhere. You know, many many people
are saying that We've got a show for the news
show on kg RA called Human Ascension with Ellie, and
that's what she talks about. And I think when you
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and I were having a chat off the air, I
told you I just heard this guy talking about, you know,
our human potential and how that's been sort of hidden
from us. And I really think that more than UFOs
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and aliens, I think that's.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
The big secret. I think that's much more dangerous to
them than anything because they lose control. And I think,
you know, there are you know, powers that be, whether
they're in governments or just other kind of elite groups.
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And the church, I think they know about it. I
think they're keeping it from us.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yes, I think the same thing.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That would blow everyone's minds. And it's funny because just
before you mentioned it, I had just watched a YouTube
video and there's a I call him a little guy
because he's so cute. He's really a sweet little man
and his dog, Alfie. He's on YouTube. It's called Tell
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Tell Tero, I think. And anyhow, he was talking about that,
about how it had been hidden. Now let me say
this to you to see if it rings any kind
of a bell with you. He said that we were
on the verge of some event, some revelation that will
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be undeniable. It won't be anything that people can say, Oh,
maybe it happened, Maybe it didn't. Maybe that's not. Maybe
that's the way it is, Maybe it's not. Is it.
It will be undeniable, And it has something to do
with our potential and who we really are. And he
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said he keeps thinking it has something to do with
something that's going on under the ocean. Is that bringing you.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Well, I can tell you the dots that I've connected
related to that because I have heard stuff like that.
But there are many avenues that we need to look at, right.
So one avenue is Chris Bledsoe, the experiencer from North Carolina.
You know absolutely so Yep, he talks about this in
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his book You're Full of God, that there's going to
be an event where instead of because people keep dumers
especially keep saying that, uh, it's going to be the
end of times and stuff like that. But no, Chris
ledso and also Danny Chian, they say that it's going
to be a paradigm shift in US. It's not like
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a like a like an event uh that hurts hurts
the planet or something like that. That's what they're saying.
And another avenue is that I don't know if you've noticed,
but lately in the news cycle UFO related there's a
lot of talk about usos. Yeah, these and uh we
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had because I collaborate with a YouTuber called Christian Harlowe
who's also a movie critic, and he had Tim Gallo
did on a show for an interview, and there's a
lot of uptick in that and the supposed hearings that
are common. I don't know if it's going to be
busier or after the election. They're saying that they want
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to talk about USOS. That's going to be the main
topic they want to talk about. So and I keep
hearing that if there's going to be an event, it's
going to be early twenty twenty six. That's what I like. March, Yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So I think that is it? Or am I hearing
March or am I hearing July?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
I heard March as well, though March.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I think it's March that I keep You know that
Chris Bledsoe's story on if you're if you know the
listeners or are you or interested in delving into it anymore?
Ellie has covered that extensively on Human Ascension along with
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another gentleman that is some sort of experiencer. And I
wish I could remember his name. I know his middle
name is Vienne, but I I can't remember his full name,
but I'll get it for you. And you might want
to check him out too. But yeah, and it sounds
like you have been working with some people that I'm
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not that familiar with their story, So I would love
to get that information from you as well.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
But of course it's got to.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I think I feel like, you know, we're so there's
so much chaos and so much division, or there has been,
and I kind of been feeling like it's just the
sort of last gasp of the old way of doing
things here, and it's like it's struggling, it's in its
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death spiral, and so we're getting pushed back from that
side because there's a lot of fear around, you know,
people stepping into their own power and because they would
lose out what they're most interested in, which is power
material things. So they're trying to, you know, keep that
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info away from us so that we don't figure it
out on our own. But how do you see that?
Do you see it as some sort of a celestial event,
like it seems to be related to some when some
star aligns with the Great Pyramid of Gizah and things
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like that. Do you think we're going to see something
in the sky. Do you think something is going to
come out of the ocean or do you think it's
going to be more like I've also heard this, like
there's going to be a burst of light brighter than
the sun, and you know, if you're ready for it,
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and if you're you know, uh, ready for the change
and ready to a sand and ready to for your development,
your spiritual development, you'll be fine, you know, but it
might really freak out a lot of other people. But
how do you see it? Do you have any opinions
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on what kind of an event?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
I am not sure really, I've heard so many things.
I've heard so many things that I even even though
I do believe that there's something going on, I haven't
had any experiences with any nhie or I did see
an ord like last year about a year ago, and
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I filmed it and everything, but it was really far away.
I didn't feel like it was like could have been
anything really, So I haven't felt like I've had an
anomalous experience per se related to UFOs. But the other
experiences that I've had have to do with mind and
telepathy and stuff like that. So if something were to happen,
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based on the experiences I've had, I guess it would
be something mental and some kind of switch that goes
on and people and now that would be like they
start realizing like what the hell am I doing? Why
am I fighting with my neighbor? Why am I uh
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hating on people. Why am I sending this negative information
to you?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Suddenly, like pick up that your neighbor is is upset
or going through something. You know, they don't have to say,
you just know it.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Or they might say something and you go help them.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Think could happen. That's what I think that could happen.
As far as it's like an event that we see,
I hope, so I would like to see something. Really,
to be honest with you, it would be nice.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
To see something. But you know, when I think about it,
it's like having the switch flipped is the best possible thing.
You know, that you wake up and you're suddenly aware
of who you really are, what the meaning of life is,
why you're here, and you are in total communication sympathy
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and empathy with the rest of the human race and
hopefully the rest of the cosmos.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
You know what helped me get there? Psychedelics?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Oh my gosh, Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, well, of
course at my age, I think I would have been like,
really a weirdo if I didn't have some experience in
that area, because everybody did. But I shouldn't say that
(38:13):
because I know my sisters didn't, you know, I was
the weirdo of the family. But anyhow, yeah, I really
wasn't experienced in it. I did try try LSD once
and it was really interesting. It was really interesting, and
(38:35):
I was married at the time to an abusive guy,
and it was really amazing because he started telling me
he suddenly realized how horrible that he acted and how
(38:55):
and he just kept apologizing and apologizing, and the law longer.
You know, the time went and I knew, you know,
we were going to be coming to the end of
the trip that we were on. I I got really
upset and I started crying and I said, you know,
because you're going to go back to the way you were.
(39:16):
He goes, no, I promise, I promise, I won't. I'll remember,
I'll remember. He didn't. He went right back. But for
that period of time, he was aware. He had a
moment of awareness of what what he had been doing
that wasn't too cool. I saw some kind of interesting
(39:38):
things on the wall and things like that, but it
was mostly my experience with him. But I was always
scared to do to do it again. You know. I
guess I was a big sissy.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
I think that there's a lot of judgment against psychedelics.
I see. I've been studying this. That's the reason my
podcast is called Sequac People, because the initial psychoactic thing
was to talk about psychedelics. Because I went through a
(40:14):
very profound experience a decade ago where I nearly died
because of a drug overdose. And this near death experience
changed something in me that I couldn't explain, and I
started like getting information in a different way and processing
(40:39):
it in a different way. And since then I stayed
away from from that world. I started working out. I
stopped drinking for a while, because I do like to
drink occasionally.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
But then I.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Just realized that I kind of think that when you're
like on this negative spiral, if you can't get out
of it by yourself, you do eventually need some type
of assistance, and it could come through yoga, it could
come through meditation. In my case, it came through psychedelics.
(41:18):
That's the way that I realized that I was like,
I was a little ass hat when I was younger,
so and that changed me fundamentally in many ways, and
I felt more empathetic towards people.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
What was the drug that you overdosed on?
Speaker 4 (41:36):
If you don't mind me asking method fetaments?
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Oh, I was going to say, I didn't think it
was going to be psychedelics.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
No, no, you don't hear.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
You might hear something that can fly into a McCain
at the window if they're not.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
No, it was it was metha fetaments and my heart
was I felt like it was going to explode. Oh
it was horrible drug. My mom saved my life, really
she I owe everything to her, thank God. So yeah, yeah,
I was lucky that she was there.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yes, very very Yeah. Those hard drugs are just not
good at all, too dangerous, not worth it, not worth
the risk. But yeah, I didn't think you were talking
about you know, iosco or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
No, No, really overdose on that, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
So, will you hear a lot of I'm really into
near death experiences. I haven't really had one myself, but
I was into a lot of research into that area.
It was weird because just before my my own daughter died,
I had been to a big meeting of near death experiencers.
(42:58):
They're about thirty here in LA at the It was IRONS,
the International Association of Near Death Experiences, and we were
all in this big circle, and everybody went around and
told stories about what had happened, what they saw, how
wonderful it was, and how beautiful it was, how they
(43:19):
were not afraid of anything anymore, especially not death. And
then the very next week, you know, unexpectedly lost my daughter.
I mean, she was ill, but I wasn't expecting her
to die. And I was so grateful that I had
been to that meeting and heard all those people saying,
(43:42):
I can't wait to go back. You know, it really
helped me along. You know, it was still horrible, but
that was the one thing at the moment that kind
of like kept me anchored a little bit. And you know,
I have friends that have had near death experiences and
I know they're not making up stories, and the experiences
(44:04):
are profound, and they come back and you are a
different person in some way.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
And it was really weird because a lot of things
happened afterwards, especially with my family, that I managed to
mend relationships with most of them, and it was really
a really healing experience. It was terrifying when it happened.
(44:35):
Everybody was terrified, especially with my mom and my brothers.
But after it all happened and I realized that I
no longer had like this addiction or addictive personality. I
was like, I have to seize the moment and just
(44:56):
like try to mend my mistakes from the past. And
I've tried. I've tried to do better in general for
me and my loved ones, and I think I think
it's working. They would tell you that it is. I
still make a lot of mistakes though, but I think
(45:17):
generally I'm on a positive upward road.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
If I asked your mom, you know, was there a
difference Impovel before his near death experience and after, what
would she say?
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Definitely she would.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
He would He would say anything at the time like Wow,
you're really doing good or you know, I own to
change in you. Was it that profound that people actually
talking about it.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
It was kind of immediate, like the change because at
the beginning they didn't they didn't think I was being
true because I was like, no, I'm done doing that.
I'm done, and I started working out and I started
doing other things, started went back to my career in journalism.
And then a few months went by and my mom
(46:18):
was like, you really are done with that. So because
they tried to give me psychiatrists a psychiatrist tried to
give me medicine to try to mitigate the addiction, and
I couldn't sleep, and I was like, Mom, I promise you,
I'm not going to do anything. I just can't take
(46:38):
this medicine. I don't need it. I'm just I just
got to work out and just do my thing. And
luckily she trusted me. There was a moment when we
went to Wine Country right after it happened, where I
guess we needed to like let it all out and
just say whatever we wanted to each other, and she
(46:59):
let it out. She told me some really nasty things
that I had coming to be honest with you. But
I think that was very healing for both of us
and for everybody, because she was the one that was
hurt the most from that experience because not only she
did she think that she was going to lose her son,
(47:19):
she also thought that I was lost to addiction for good. Yeah,
and when when that changed and she noticed that it
was real, a lot of things changed from her to
towards me. So yeah, it was pretty It was pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
She could trust you, She could trust you, That's what
it was.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
She still she still doesn't trust me in some things,
but they're not related to drugs.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, well that's going to always be true.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
To tell you.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Now we are down to gosh, the last eight and
a half minutes of the show, and I didn't want
to let you go without asking you if you contain,
if you can share anything for you, what is the
most compelling case you've ever looked into, ever worked on,
(48:20):
ever heard about.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
I can tell you quite a bit of things because
it's pretty public. What's happening. The case has to do
with a compatriot of mine. It's a Mexican doctor called
Kakovo Greenberg. He founded the Mexican Institute of Consciousness in
the late seventies and he worked in many different experiments
(48:49):
that had to do with consciousness. He studied Mexican shamans
for two decades. He wrote about fifty books. He was
approached by many three letter agencies in the US and
other groups within the US to work with them, and
he always tried to reject them. And when he was
(49:10):
doing the most important experiment of his life, he disappeared
right in the middle of the experiment when he was
about to travel to India to complete the second part.
He never boarded the plane. Then there was some investigation
ran by the government from a commander called Kemente Padilla
(49:35):
who was assigned to his case right after the disappearance,
and he found evidence that he was tied to the CIA,
and that's what I've been investigating. But the most important
aspect of this case to me is that his life's
work hasn't been acknowledged or recognized by the scientific community.
(49:58):
Every time I approach any of these big shot scientists
were dealing with the phenomenon or with consciousness and I
asked him about the doctor, they go like, no, who's that?
And that enrages me because I do believe that the
work he did throughout his life was paradigm shifting, and
(50:21):
I guess that I'm compelled to keep telling the story
and keep talking about his work, and along the way,
I am conducting an investigation to see what happened to him.
But that's gonna be a little bit more tricky because
if it was so mysterious the way he disappeared, I'm
(50:41):
guessing there's someone who doesn't want him found or doesn't
want to know people to know what happened. And when
I hit that ball, I'm just going to stop and
I'm just going to continue shedding light into his work
because it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
It's interesting. Now. Now, do you get the idea that
he voluntarily himself out of the picture, disappeared because he
knew something was happening, or do you think they disappeared him?
(51:21):
You know, they guess somebody shut him up because he
has a daughter and she was his life.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
You know, he was like completely devoted to her and
obviously the wife that he had at the time. And
if they did convince him to go willingly, I guess
it could have been by threatening or saying something about
his daughter, so that that's the only way that I
(51:52):
see him going willingly. Otherwise I don't see any other way,
to be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Did his wife and his daughter have any theories? What
did they think happened.
Speaker 4 (52:04):
To So his daughter's mother was his first wife. And
in a documentary that I saw about his disappearance from
Spanish director Ida Quaya, who is not my friend, I
have close contact with him. We're working on a second
project together, there's evidence that his second wife was involved
(52:30):
in his disappearance. The La Times covered the story in
the early in nineteen ninety four, and they come up.
They came up with the conclusion that she probably killed him,
but the evidence that Clemente Padilla found found that she
(52:51):
was potentially an agent that was keeping taps on him.
Maybe today who she is or where she.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Is, where she is ya and who she is?
Speaker 7 (53:04):
Yeah, she disappeared at around the same time, and there
are some phone calls that she made to her mother
who lives near.
Speaker 4 (53:15):
Here, actually in ros Rito, and she said when they
went to her mother's house to ask her, the mother
was like, no, I haven't seen her in years. But
the phone records do have extensive phone calls that lasted
twenty thirty minutes daily between her and her mother.
Speaker 6 (53:37):
And that's as far as the investigation went because when
the president at the time in Mexico found out that
Clemente Padilla was investigating.
Speaker 4 (53:48):
The case, he fired him and they freezed him. A
Messo Savillo. Oh okay, yeah, huhm.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Why do you think he did that?
Speaker 6 (54:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
I guess the cover up.
Speaker 4 (54:11):
I guess you know, I guess he had he had
a directive from someone stop investigating.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (54:19):
That was my conclusion.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
Yeah, so they just try to scare the crap out
of all of us, you know, and then keep the
real secret that you know, it's nothing but our own
ascension and our own you know, human potential that's being hidden,
(54:47):
not some big.
Speaker 4 (54:48):
So one of the main reasons why I think that
they potentially made him disappear is because of some of
the work that he was doing at the time had
to do with quantum entanglement but between human minds. He
was attempting to prove that it was real and if
(55:10):
he proved that, because you know, before before that there's
a lot of talk of consciousness and of all this
etheric kind of talk about quantum physics, nothing really concrete,
you know, but this guy was conducting experiments at UNAM
that were proving that a lot of this stuff was real.
(55:33):
And I guess that's the reason that it probably spooked
someone that made them go like, you got to stop
that guy, because we can't have that right now. And
I think I think that's potentially what could have happened.
Speaker 2 (55:50):
Yeah, oh goodness, questions. I could talk about this forever,
but we're down to the final minute of the show.
You know what. I so sorry I didn't check, But
do you already know what day and time slight?
Speaker 3 (56:04):
You have.
Speaker 4 (56:07):
Tuesday in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
Tuesday afternoons on g RA in Monday September. Do you
have a start date?
Speaker 4 (56:17):
Not yet next week?
Speaker 2 (56:20):
Okay, cool? All right, Well, I can't wait till till
you're joining us uh on the station because we're really
looking forward to it. And I want to thank you
for also jumping in at the last minute and being
gracious enough to save me tonight from my canceled guests.
So thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (56:42):
And looks.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
I'm going to be checking out Sea Go Actival already,
so but I'll definitely check it out when you're on
the station as well, So thank you so much. Take
care and take care everyone be nice to each other.
Speaker 4 (57:00):
Good night, bye everybody.