Weird News Wednesday, the Black Knight Satellite, and Oumuamua

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Have you ever wondered what was outthere in the night sky, stared up
at the stars in the hopes ofseeing something out of the ordinary. Have
you ever heard unexplainable noises coming froma vacant room, or watch a shadow
across the wall in front of you. Have you asked yourself if there's life
after this one, or if youhad life before? What about strange creatures

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that are mythical and elusive? Haveyou experienced deja vu or felt a prompting
to leave because you felt you werein danger? What if tomorrow you were
on the fringe? Welcome to anotherepisode of On the Fringe. I'm Philip,

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I'm Mark, and with this tonight, we've got Mark's daughter or
Sarah. Everybody's saying, Sarah,she's here to hang out with it.
Share some uh some weird news Wednesday. Hey, First of all, though
we got a holiday tomorrow, Imean, I mean, for those of
you that don't know, I mean, tomorrow is the two hundred forty seventh

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birthday of the United States Marine Corps. And obviously I'm partial because you know
that's where I grew up at anduh, you know, so I gotta
gotta share that man, I meannothing but love for Everybody's a happy birthday
all my brothers and sisters, patpast, present, in future. Uh
celebrate, celebrate right and make ita great one to remember, y'all.

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Um on with tonight, I mean, I mean we got a lot to
cover. I mean we've got we'regonna talk no move, We're gonna talk
to Black Night Satellite, We're gonnatalk weird news. And we found some
weird news. Um. It's kindof cool though. I mean, um,
sorry, we didn't get get anepisode out Monday of What If Tomorrow.

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I was just tired. I meanwe we drove I think right around
ten almost eleven hours Sunday coming backfrom hanging out with Ben and Joe down
in South Texas. I mean itwas like it was a great time,
a lot of fun. Uh,super cool guys, man. I mean
they're exactly what you think they are. I mean, they're there are they
are true to themselves, down toearth guys, and had had a blast

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with them. Um, We're we'regonna try to work some something in the
future to where we can be alittle bit closer, more people can hang
out and and something was brought upbecause if you guys, don't don't watch
we kind of crashed the apparent chopshop with uh uh. We kind of

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got talking a little bit that Kansasis kind of centrally located with everybody.
You know, Wheel's up in Michiganor will in Chatter up in Michigan,
Ben in Jordan in Texas, spookyand sunny here in California. So it'd
be cool to do something like thathere, you know, just come up,
hang out for a week, weekendwhatever. I mean, I've got

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the land to do it. InZo I think he's been on a couple
of times see Facebook user. Ithink that's probably my wife. Maybe I
don't know. And Chris, hey, guys, but yeah, I mean
it was just it was a greattime. I mean just we didn't do

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anything extremely exciting, you know,we just kind of hung out and Chad
and kind of really got to knoweach other better. I guess you could
say, I mean, because howmuch can you truly know somebody talking through
stream yard or zoom or have you. But yeah, these guys, man,
they are exactly what they present themselvesat. So go support their show.

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The UFO Garage podcast kind of thethe catalyst for all of us,
uh, you know, Big Willieum us Paranormal chop Shop. They're kind
of a catalyst. They were theywere, you know, and I didn't.
Admittedly, they were my inspiration ofgetting this rolling. And I invited
Mark to join me, Willie andbeing there Micah when they were doing their

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being the Bearer brothers, Willie's doingsome other stuff, you know. Then
you got Chad, you know,Chad Smith doing the Chad Smith podcast,
and you got you know, obviouslythe Paranormal chop Shop guys. So without
them, I don't know that wewould all for one know each other.
But too, I don't know thatwe'd all be there. So I think
I owe them a huge debt ofgratitude, um, just for giving us

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the inspiration to carry on, youknow. So um So if you guys
are listening, you know, wewould definitely we appreciate. I appreciate the
invite down there, really enjoyed it. Um. What the heck's going on
here? Trying to figure out toomany shows? Really good guys, man,
a lot of fun, a lotof cool stories, you know.

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And Ben, I mean Joe dude, that guy we were kind of doing
some skywatching or was it last Fridaynight. It was kind of cloud eo.
Clouds were moving in kind of lightning, thunder or whatever. It was
all look I think off to theeast of us. But that guy can
spot stuff moving in the in thesky like nobody's business. Wow, it

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was pretty cool. So anyway,on with the show. Just the favor.
Let's see. You know what Ididn't I pull it down, didn't
they? Um, I have topost a link in the uh in the
chat. But just a favor,you'll buy us some coffee. We signed
up for that here while buckets likefive bucks. It helps support the show,

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helps us, you know, payit. We've got to pay to
keep this thing rolling. So anysupport that you all could give us,
we would greatly appreciate it. Ontop of that, you know, we
have our affiliates. We have conflictedthe game. We have my patriots supply
emp shield um for getting one anno, I am but oh, Duke Cannon,
Duke Cannon. I was talking tothe wife a day because I ran

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out and haven't ordered any I boughtsome store bought. I'm like, man,
this ain't the same. It didn'tlast as long. I even bought
some doctors squatch and Doctor Squatch doesn'tlast near as long as Duke Cannon.
Granted it's like three bars of soap, but it's good stuff, dude Cannon.
It is absolutely uh and it's likeit's like for a bar, it's

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like two bucks that more expensive thanDoctors Squatch. Um. Anyway, on
with the news man. I heardabout this the week of Halloween, you
know, and I totally forgot aboutit. I would have shared it during
a Halloween show, which I wantto give a big shout out to Pam
for hand out with us and havinga good time. Um. Yeah.

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Then we then we hit Jess's houseHalloween night. We went and saw Pam
with the library, you know,went and hung out there for a minute,
went to Jess's house amazing like usual. You know. So if you
guys are in the area and comearound Halloween, you gotta go check out
the Nightmare on Bradley. It's theyget bigger and bigger every year, and
it's cool it absolutely every year.So you know, so what was cool

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this year is, I mean theyadded more stuff. They made it a
little more organized for some people thatjust wanted candy when and got candy,
and the other people you know yougot in line for your funnel cakes.
But what was cool was they hadHalloween buckets set out kind of throughout the
path and uh, if you didn'twant any candy, they left them there

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for people to put candy and thenthey would donate them to uh oh,
I forget the name of the dStar Blue Star mom? Is that what
it was? And that's awesome?Send all the stuff to the troops.
So really cool, really cool.Um But anyway, man for the but
an, I heard about this beforeHalloween, didn't think about it during our

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Halloween show, which was our lastshow, but I saw it again to
night and I gotta share it.You know, this was Halloween, so
we're like, you know, aweek and a half behind here. But
it was up in wind Dot,Michigan. I don't know if that's see.
I don't know if that's close toWillie or Chat or what. But
uh, I don't know if youcan hear that. But I got Kyot's

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healing outside. I got my windowopen. Spooky. Yeah, but the
article says, you know, it'sthe article says, that's scary roaches spoiled
Halloween on suburban street up wind Dot, Michigan. Trigger treating is off limits
in a suburban Detroit neighborhood. There'snothing sweet about bringing home a cockroach.

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Officials in the wind Dot said acockroach infestation has been confirmed at a vacant
home after a tip from a trashhauler. The pest have been moving to
other homes. Sidewalks will be closedMonday night on a portion of twenty the
street. City city engineer Greg Mayhewsaid a Halloween band will prevent further roach
migration. Officials don't want the bugshit you and ride on costumes, said

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the Detroit Free Press. Or TheDetroit Free Press reported the city is trying
to xterminate the roaches, but willit will take some time. Mayhew said
walking the street could help kill thecockroaches, but their eggs can still spread
and survive. City council member ToddHanna said, yeah, fire, that's

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tragic. Ll it? What's fired? Hey, Jess Chris Sales gross,
Hey Jess uh Sarah? You gotsomething? Can I say the one I
said? Yeah, which one earlierabout the chicken? Yeah, go for

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it? Okay, So this alsocomes from AP News and it really caught
my eye, and of course I'velost the link now but apparently where's it
at because I can't remember where itwas at. I've got it on weird

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news. Oh wait, hold on, Okay, So, according to AP
News and Fort Lauderdale Security Offers,officers at a South Florida airport reported finding
a handgun inside raw chicken inside atraveler's luggage. The Transportation Security Administration posted

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photos of the gun and poultry Mondayon its official Instagram account. So somebody
tried to smuggle a handgun into anairport via raw chicken, and I just
it's very creative. I'm kind ofimpressed. But good for TSA for fine,
I'm gonna say drugs were involved.I don't know, because that's pretty

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smart. Who's gonna look in araw chicken? Well, I mean,
I guess metal detectors are a thing. That's gross. It is, all
right, Well, did you seewhere the National Park Service is trying to
get humans to stop linking toads?Norn desert toads potent toxin that can make

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people sick. Despite the risk,some people have discovered that the toads toxic
secretions contain a powerful hallucinogenic There itis, there it is. I mean
that might have been involved in thechicken thing. I'm not sure. I'm
sure it could all be related.It is, though one really might be

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thought it was a good idea tosmuggle my head a raw chicken. Yeah,
that's ridiculous. We're doomed as asociety. Who hasn't the toad?
I haven't just said Mike's wolfhound wasaddicted to looking toad? Oh my god,

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Oh my goodness, looks like Isaw Chris. Chris said, uh
me, I think alicious. LikeI didn't. Haven't done it either.
They're all over the tarmac, allover. Yeah, you just got it

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was a joke. But they don't. Yeah, dud disregard all right,
somebody from his water bowl. Ohdear, that's funny name. Dog trying

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to get high? All right,Mark what you got man? Well,
let's see onia dot com. Whichit's frankly an amazing website. We just
discovered that tonight. Scientists claim thatUFO fuel source verified decades later. Um

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so bobbles are uh begins. Inthe nineteen eighties, Lazar was contracting contracting
as a physicist at Los Alamos UmBlazar decided to blow the whistle and we're

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is the We're gonna talk about hisprofessional Oh, element one fifteen has apparently
been h he claims fueled the UFOsis apparently a real thing. So and
how they decide that, Yeah,they discovered that when when all this was

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going on, there was eighty nineish, Yeah something about that. Um,
when those art came out and saidit was powered by element one fifteen.
At that time, element element onefifteen didn't exist on the periodic table,
so they were kind of poopo init. They were kind of you
know, he's full of crap andall that. Well here, I don't

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remember if it was last year,year before last. I think it was
CERN or some other collider actually producedelement one fifteen, remember right, right?
Um? So yeah, so wenow have you captured UFOs? Are

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you okay? Sorry, I'm justtrying to figure this out. That's all
right. I'm still trying to figurethings out. I'm five years old.
Bank Atton got another good one.Yep. I just saw this one come

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out the other day. This isMSN. I mean, take it for
what you will. According to theseveral USO or USO, According to several
US Department of Defense officials, manyof the recent UFO sightings were unidentified aerial
phenomena are probably simply sightings of foreignoperations, says its weather balloons or drones.
Now we're going back to that excuse. Several UFA or UAP incidents have

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beneficially identified as relatively common Chinese surveillancedrones, according to anonymous officials, says
China has reportedly previously stolen plans formodern US fighter jets and is interested in
how the United States trained as pilots. Defense Department officials added, as reported
by s writer dot Ru magazine,I'm not sure other UAP sightings recorded from

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military aircraft that theater to show aerialobjects moving apparently against lots of physics are
probably the result of optical illusions.This has a classified your UAP reports submitted
to Congress this week by the USDepartment of Defense Intelligence Services likely includes findings
reported by The Times. The newreport adds new details to cases described in

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a document that officials released in Junetwenty twenty one, describing one hundred and
forty four alleged UAP incidents reported bythe US government officials between two thousand and
four and twenty twenty one. Twentytwenty one report states that due to the
lack of high quality data, mostof the alleged you AP collisions cannot be
be definitively explained. However, thereport offers several general explanations for UAP in

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general, including technology is applied byChina, Russia, another country or a
non governmental organization, as well asairborne interference such as birds and weather balloons.
Aliens were not mentioned anywhere in thereport, However, this is not
prevented the rise of conspiracy through inpart due or due to a general lack
of transparency on the part of thegovernment recording UAP incidents. While the Department

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of Defense continues to investigate UAP esidings, NASA has also established an independent
USA or UAP investigation that will operatefrom two to mid twenty twenty three.
Oh good, Yeah, So,I mean here's my thoughts. I mean,

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could it be. Yeah, butI don't see even our drone technology
moving the way that the tic TACsdid. No, you know, they
were off those fighters. Yeah,they were beating the pants off those fighters,
both in maneuvers and speed as.I don't see a drone being that

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capable, right, I just,um, somebody's trying to cover them.
But I think so. Chris said, so the pilots just misidentified. That's
what they're trying to say. Now, Um, yeah, you can't go
back. No, no, theythey're trying to put the cat in the

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bag or put the cat back inthe bag. Uh, because they came
out and said, um, youknow, they came out and said,
well, these things are real,we don't know what they are. And
now they're they're backtracking because I,in my opinion, either it's ours and

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they're trying to keep it classified,or two it's otherworldly. Maybe this is
where their conspiracy theories come in.But everybody listened to the show knows how.
I think it's either ours or it'snot of this world, and I
I'm on the fence, yeah,you know, because I don't know.

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I don't see why it couldn't bea combination of both. You know,
I don't disagree. I absolutely thinkit could. Like some sightings could be
ours, some sightings could be extraterrestrialor whatever. Other Worldly is a really
good way to put it. Yeah. I do remember Gary Vorhey's talking about
it, but he said they werecoming out of eighty thousand feet, not

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d eighty thousand feet on radar.They were coming out of eighty thousand feet.
There's not much that can come outof eighty tho oh no, absolutely
not so either. I mean,you know, we have one of them
hypersonic technology, which makes sense,but to turn like these things were turning,

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if it was ours, it hadto be unmanned, yeah, because
it what it kills. I don'tknow that we have a Yeah, I
don't what do they call that umin inertia dampener or something like that.
I don't know that we have it. I mean we we may, I
don't know, but I don't thinkwe have that technology. No, we've
got inertial dampeners. There's nothing keepingus from going way faster, right,

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So take it with what you will. Could it be Chinese? Yeah?
I think it could because I thinkwe were talking about this earlier today,
Mark Um. But if I remember, I don't remember what years, but
I heard that Lockheed was being forcedto give China technology, right, So

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that begs the question of Chinese drones. Where did they get the technology to
do it? Which leads all theway back to it's ours again. So
I mean, it's just you know, and this just said that the Chinese
stole technology. Oh yeah, absolutely, they admitted it. Well, I

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don't think they stole it. Ithink they were given it on purpose for
political reasons. But that's neither herenor there. In better news, aren't
you glad you don't live in Skansen? Because they had a king cobra escape
from from a terrarium there, sono good news. Good news is as

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it came home because apparently it washungry. I was gonna say, it's
gotta eat. Aren't you glad youdon't live there? How long was that
out for? Did it? Say? Um? I don't know. It
probably didn't stay gone long in Swedenbecause it's too cold for king cobra.

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Yeah that's fair now, yeah,no, no, crap escaped on October
twenty second via the light fixture inthe ceiling of his glass um and he

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returned a week later. You cando a lot of damage in a week,
a lot, especially if you're aking cobra. Yeah exactly. I
mean how many people got hurt justtrying to get away from it, right,
like spraining their ankle? All right, that'd be me. I would
have needed new depends, gold Lord, are we already there already? I

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would be if there was a kingcover right, all right, it's time
to go to the nursing home.I just had a little accident. Oh

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dear, here's whole crazy stuff goingon. A Yeah, you got anything
else, Sarah? Uh No,I came wildly unprepared school. I mean
yeah, absolutely, she really doesfit in, because that's often the story

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of our lives, probably wilably unprepared. Um, all right, well,
I want to share this one.I don't know if you can hear it
or not. I think it's justmusic. Um, but I will read.
I guess. Um, let's seeone. Do do do not?

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Damn it? All right, chairscreen dummy, all right, this is
a time traveler from twenty nine ohsix makes bizarre claims a better in universe's
future. Says, I don't knowif you guys can hear or not.
It's just music, though It's timetraveler from twenty nine twenty nine h six

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makes bizarre claims is a better universe'sfuture. TikTok is a popular platform from
people's viewing ideas about a range ofsubjects like beauty, music, and now
time traveling. Yes, apparently,TikTok has also become a medium of choice
for time travel TikToker at tim BoyGame It's something or other says that they
are at a time or time travelerwho was here from me year twenty nine

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oh six, so basically from centuriesahead of our time. The video state's
attention. Yes, I am areal time traveler. Our universe is in
a very large jar, one whoseuniverse was also in a jar, and
we have created one as well.On March two, twenty twenty three,

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a universal jar will be found,which was created by a kid by the
name of Edward Thorne. Viewers didnot take the video contents too seriously when
some claiming gets copied from the seriesRacking. Morty so checks. Now we
have to research that that tracks.Yeah, I like once or twice.

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I'm like, ads enough for me. Man gen Z here, that's like
my bread and butter. Rick andMorty, well, you'll have to research
that for us, because I don'tthink I have enough mental fortitude. You
don't want to watch cartoons for research, Yeah, I mean they're about as

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true as real life. Yeah no, Joe, that's no kidding, But
I mean Rick and Morty. Isaw an episode one brother had on It
was dulous. I may have beentraumatized. You got anything else? Um,

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let me see Gia dot com.It has all kinds of weird stuff.
So, um oh, this iskind of promising. Subjects are able
to intentionally heat in lucid dream studyfinds, so apparently while you're lucid dreaming
and heal yourself. So I meanthat sounds like something that you can try,

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I think at home, physically oremotionally. Um. I took it
as being physically, I mean reducinglevels of stress. Um could fix your
circadian rhythm. Oh it's a differentarticle. Um oh said it would be

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really good for people with PTSD.So yeah, right on anyway it to
try. I mean I think it. I don't know. I think it'd
be plausible either way. Yeah,because your mind has so much more power
than we give it credit for.Absolutely, we could have a whole series

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on the power of the human mind. Oh my goodness. So um oh,
here's a good one. Professor saysets may hitch rides on rogue planets,
so they could be riding on someof these. Uh this leads into

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one of our subjects later. Theycould be hitching hitching a ride on interstellar
objects. So they're like hoboes liketrain hopping Knaus Like, that's okay,
that's efficient. I'll give them that. Yeah, saves gas of course,

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even if you've got really good mileagespace traveled. Oh be expensive. I
can't even imagine. Oh yeah,the price of gas is ridiculous. Right,
all right, I've got one here. This is actually from twenty twenty
one, so it's a little dated, but I found the article pretty interesting.

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Again, this is from Guy aswell, but it says is a
universe one big, interconnected neural network. And this has crossed my mind before.
Is the universe with one giant brainbasically, and that you know that
brain be the creator or God orwhatever you believe. It says is a

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universe and interconnected neural network. Anew way of thinking has emerged about how
different areas of physics and universe couldbe connected to create a model that types
together traditional scientific thought with new ideasand quantum physics. For years, physicists
have tried to unify classical and quantumphysics. Classical physics go back to the
time of Sir Isaac Newton, isbased on mechanical physical equations that everything operates

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like clockwork predictably, and knowably.Quantum physics, on the other hands,
looks at a microscopic sub atomic scalesand how they interact at the level of
particle waves and force fields. Butthe fundamental laws of physics at this quantum
level are the antithesis of their behaviorat the classic pole. Instead of certainty,
you have uncertainty. So how dowe connect these different views of so

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called theory of everything? A recentpaper by the University of Minnesota dulof physics
professor by Viddally Venturion argues that thisis seeming paradox can't exist if the universe
is connected in a neural network.I mean, it couldn't be. What
if What if we're just random ideasfloating around in the mind of God and

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God is the whole universe? Imean I could buy that. I mean
that makes usually exclusive of anything.And I'm really sorry to be that guy.
But can you put that into moresimplistic terms for my tiny brain to

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comprehend. Okay, Well, basically, the entire universe as a whole as
it exists, it is a neuralnet like a AI. Oh okay,
it's natural, and that everything floatingaround and it is like the neurons firing
in a brain. So the pointwas that it was random, Well,

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no, cold could it's random,but it's it's like like your brain working,
Okay, a neural network. Okay, So if By explained that,
yeah, no, that makes sense. Sorry, I think I got a
little lost in them big words.All right. Yeah, let Smith said,

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I think there's a lot about theuniverse that are underdeveloped brains cannot possibly
understand. I would absolutely agree withthat. Yeah, yeah, I mean
that there's no doubt in my mindwhat little there is of it. Yep.
And then she says, we're well, we're essentially electricity. Yeah,

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that's that's true. We're data um, especially at the quantum level. I
mean, I don't even consider myselfa layman on the whole quantum theory,
quantum, all this other stuff.I mean I don't even claim to have
a basic understanding of how it works, even expert a basic understanding. I

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mean, it's really anybody's guess um. I think that you know, the
the slit test. You know,it's all observation versus not observing. You
know, it all acts differently whenit's being observed, kind of like your
kids, you know, So thisis true. No, it's not.

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But but uh oh sorry, I'lltalk to you afterwards. Um, something
just hit me I forgot to tellyou about. But yeah, I don't
get I don't understand. I don'tclaim to have an understanding of the quantum

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physics and all that good stuff whatI like to Absolutely, I'm sure a
lot of scientists would too as well. They're just theorizing just like everybody is.
Um you know, so that really, as long as they've been studying
the quantum theory and quantum physics andall that stuff, it's still unknown.

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It's a mystery. Absolutely, Itis absolutely a mystery, which is what
makes it so fun to play with, right right? Absolutely? Is uh
you got anything? You got anythingelse morek uh No? I mean it's
hard to find a lot of weirdnews. Hey got one, Hey,

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couz, Sorry, my cousin poppedup. Nothing wrong with it, what
you get, sarah? Um,this is from October seventeenth, so I
mean it's kind of far back.I don't know if you guys talked about
it or not, but in California, Um, somebody made a six foot

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tall bread sculpture of hand solo Hansolo and um they named him Pan Solo
solo okay, life size Han soloout of bread. Yeah? Was it
like a hand solo and carbonite thing? Yeah? Yeah, pretty pretty neat.

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It's kind of a crummy joke.I know, m you can't make
puns. When I'm half way throughdrinking, I almost lost my life.
I'm sorry. I don't have anymore strange news. Yes, people are

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weird, absolutely, they are people. Everybody. Everybody's got a little bit
in them. If you guys,if you guys are moving on, I'm
gonna gracefully bow out so I canjust watch. And Um, I appreciate
you guys having me on time,but I'm gonna I'm gonna about out and

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I'll be in the comments. Okay, all right, that's good. All
right. Well, thank hanging outwith us for a little bit. Yeah,
thanks for having me. It wasawesome. I don't no problem.
All right, see you guys,are you still hey before you go?
Are you still doing your podcast?Um? I'm taking a break right now,
but I will resume eventually after everythingkind of dives down a little bit.

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Okay, we'll give us a shot, we'll well, we'll push it.
So all right, sounds good?Thank you bye, Dad, love
you all right. Anyway, onwith the show, you know, I
mean this is like kind of whatwe're getting into, the meeting Taters and

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all that stuff. Meeting Taters.Did you watch that video with the peranormal
chop shop that we crashed? NotYeah, I was gonna watch that with
my wife. She'd probably watch it. Oh my god, you gotta watch
it. It's hilarious. Um.At the end of it, and I
was sitting there watching, I kindof felt bad, but it was hilarious,
especially the whole meat and Tater's partand stuff like that was great.

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Um. But anyway, we're gonnatouch on the Black Night. You know,
we haven't really I think we mayhave mentioned it in passing. I
don't know. I mean, we'vedone so many shows. I don't know
what we've done and what we haven'tdone anymore. Um, but it's something
that has always kind of intrigued me, and in doing researching again it was

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guy. I mean, most ofmy search tonight came comes from Guya.
I don't know how much credibility thathave, you know, but they are
kind of more of the Um didyou lose me for a second? I
did, Um, I having problemswith Mike Internet again. Okay, okay,

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all right, we'll keep going in. Um. Yeah, but one
of the articles I found was talkingabout the Black Night, the Black Knight
and satellite. You know, theysay it's supposed to be like thirteenth year
old or years old. What's weirdif you think about that? If this
is true, if it still existsor what have you, if it's still
around, if it's legit. Imean, I'm not saying it is.
I'm not saying it isn't. Butif you kind of subscribe to what Graham

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Hancock is saying, you know aboutthe whole world shaking event, you know,
the whole cataclysmic cataclysmic event thirteen thousandyears ago, could this be a
leftover, you know, something leftover from that civilization? Yeah? I
mean, because we don't know howadvanced that civilization was, right, you

(38:47):
know, just just going off theheadline, you know, I haven't even
delved into the article yet, butjust looking at the headline, That's what
I'm kind of going off of here, is if it's thirteen thousand years old,
could it be part of a previouscivilization? Um? If it was

(39:07):
advanced as as Graham Hancock thinks Ithink it could be. Yeah, because
you know the whole after a cataclysm, how long would our technology last?
Not very long. In just afew centuries. Everybody almost nothing left,

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their metal would rest. You wouldn'tyou have any trace? Yeah, maybe
some stone, but in space itwould be perfect, yeah, for almost
stared up a little bit. Yeah, but how many I mean other than
you know, just what's in spacenow, you know, space dust and

(39:49):
all that. As far as weknow, there wasn't an There wasn't anything
there right up until what the fifties, early six He's right, as far
as we know. But this wassupposedly, you know, let's see,
we'll just roll down the article.It says space debris or a thirteen thousand

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year old satellite, a mysterious objectm dubbed the Black Knight, orbits the
Earth puzzling scientist of the past andpresent. Some liking veterans and scientist Nicola
Tesla, claimed to have received radiosignals from orbiting from the orbiting figure.
After not. Gordon Cooper was adamantthat in nineteen sixty three he sought from

(40:30):
his own spacecraft the documented history ofthe existence of the Black Knight continues to
mystify scientists m and said there'd beenmultiple mast mass exteenctions. Most people have
no idea. Yo. I absolutelyagree with it's true. Absolutely agree with
that. Yeah. Um yeah.If you read what was the Fingerprints of

(40:52):
the Gods? Is that what itis? Or I can't remember the Graham
Hancock book. Um see Nicola Teslaand the Black Knight. Although Nicola Tesla's
inventions changed the way people lived today, back in eighteen ninety nine, his
peers viewed him as eccentric and somewhatof a mad scientist. I don't,
I mean no, I think itcan be argued if they would be the

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same way. Yeah. But whenhe built a laboratory in a two hundred
ten foot tower in Colorado Spring inorder to experiment with electricity and record and
record electromagnetic disturbances, his colleagues didnot take him seriously. When he reported
that he had had receiver received signalsfrom extraterrestrials, the newspapers of the day

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mocked him. Despite this ridicule ofhis peers, Tesla was excited about the
signals he received, and he cameand he came to fervently believe that he
had been the first to hear thegreeting of one planet to another. A
purpose was behind these electrical signals.Researchers now believe these the signals Tesla received
likely came from the Black Knight.Could be most people think that starts the

(42:02):
day they were born. People areso ignorant. It's scary. Oh yeah,
absolutely absolutely. I see it everyday on the internet, in person,
in the stores. I stopped watchingall those uh shows where people go

(42:22):
around and ask random individuals on thestreet. Oh, don't that piss you
off? What are they teaching inthese schools? They're not there. No,
that's no child left behind. Yeah, kick somebody's butt over that.

(42:45):
That was Yeah, that was badnews. Yep. Anyway, Modern history
of the Black Night and says althoughthere were some reports in the nineteen thirties
of astronomers around the world receiving strangeradio signals, in nineteen fifty four,
the Saint Louis Dispatch ran an articletitled Artificial satellites are circling Earth. Writer

(43:07):
on Saucers says the reference writer wasDonald E. Kehoe, who wrote about
unidentified satellites ordering the Earth. Heclaimed the government knew about them and was
trying to discover their source. Kiolater wrote a book Aliens in Space,
The Real Story of Unidentified Flying Objects, where he documented his knowledge of UFOs,

(43:29):
including what he saw about the BlackKnight Guy. His Deep Space series
discusses some of them work. Okay, that's a plug. Scientists and astronomer's
reported seeing the satellite as an orbitof the Earth in nineteen fifty three.
A professor of the University of NewMexico saw a blip of unknown origin.
In nineteen fifty seven, doctor LewisCorrales, with Communications Ministry in Venezuela was

(43:53):
taking pictures of Russian satellites butt NICKtwo. As it passed over Caracas,
the Black Knight showed up his photographs. This was a first known actual picture
of the object. In nineteen sixty, Time magazine as well as other publications,
reported on the Black Night and referredto it as possibly having any extratt
extra terrestrial organ origin u Some NorthAmerican HAM operators had detected signals coming from

(44:20):
the object. Some even reported receivingcoded messages. On September third, nineteen
sixty, the Black Knight showed upon radar for the first time. People
on the ground viewing it with thenaked eye can see it for about two
weeks. The government reportedly established acommittee to investigate the object, but no
report was ever made public. Howmany committees actually accomplish anything that the committees

(44:42):
never accomplished anything to obscure things?Right, Yeah. In nineteen sixty three,
astronaut Gordon Cooper was orbiting the Earthwhen he saw he saw glowing green
light ahead of a space capsule.At the same time, a tracking station

(45:04):
in Australia, over which the spacecraftwas orbiting at the time, report and
seeing the object on radar. TheEvening News reported on Cooper's sighting, and
for the first time, the objectwas referred to as the Black Knight's satellite.
The name stuck, but Cooper's reportdid not. NASA assumed to bunk
Cooper's Cooper's UFO sighting, claiming therehad been a malfunction in the space capital

(45:24):
which caused gases to admit what appearedglowing light. Well, swamp gases coming
out of capsule. Swamp gas tocome out in a spacecraft, he would
have been able to all right,I know. The results, said NASA,

(45:47):
was that Cooper had a hallucination,did not see UFO. Cooper later
confirmed it had definitely seen a UFOon his nineteen sixty three space orbit,
and NASA that had prohibited from discussingit until his death In two thousand and
four. Cooper claimed that he didnot have an hallucination on the aircraft,
but saw UFO. He was veryvocal during his lifetime about his belief in

(46:07):
the existence of extra treatural life andit's frustration that the US government continued to
cover up evidence of alien contacts.In nineteen ninety eight, astronauts on the
Space Shuttle Endeavor, on their wayto the International Space Station, took photographs
of the object, and I saidagain disagreed with the astronauts and claimed what
they saw and photograph was not aUFO but instead just space degree, most

(46:29):
likely a thermal blanket. I lovehow the government tries to explain everything away.
Oh well, yeah, you know, let's see he studied this and
find out what it is. Yeah, let's see. Deanna my cousin said,

(46:52):
it's crazy that the weather men talkabout the greatest norms in history happened
in blank in the blank, whenthey have no idea what happened one hundred
and fifty years ago. Yep,Yeah, Alicia Smith, she said,
I think that people way back thousandsof years ago, we're so much smarter
than the smartest of people today.If that's true, who's to say they
didn't build some type of satellites backthen? Oh? Absolutely didn't. Absolutely,

(47:16):
Una, you know, absolutely orexactly. People are egomaniacs and nothing
happened before they were born. Yeah. Uh, we need to those of
our family who are listening and takingnotes. We need to research, and
somebody's already done it. We justneed to track it down. How long

(47:40):
the traces of our civilization would last, you know, after humans are gone?
If something happened and civilization just disappeared, what would happen? I think
there was a TV series like AfterPeople or something like that. Yeah,
after Humans or yeah, I knowwhat you're talking about. Yeah, how

(48:05):
long would the crap that we takefor granted every day take to just disappear?
Even plastic? And a reasonably shortamount of time would you know,
disappear? Oh yeah, for sure. Hang on just a second, I

(48:27):
got to switch speakers. You're comingacross as a lot of static. But
I think it's on my end forsome reason. It happens every now and
again. Hmm, well it mightbe mine. I'm having some intery webb
problems. Let's see, let's seeif that works. All righty m,

(48:50):
I think I selected the wrong oneaudio? All right, let's try that.
All right? How am I saying? Yeah? You sound good here?
I think it's on my end allright. I'm still strobing on here.

(49:16):
I'm pretty sure that I either needa new HDMI cable or a new
video card. Yeah. Uh,I think it's because we're touching a touchy
subject. Because every time we havetouchy subpects, we started having technology issues.
Well you know, yeah, everytime we talk conspiracy, technology starts

(49:37):
acting up. Getting to see acycle here, I think it's true.
I mean, what does that convincedme? Wrong? Yeah? Change my
mind? Right, change my mind? That's it, changed my mind.
A cup of coffee and my littlesign on my table. Yeah, so

(50:06):
what about right? Oh maamor whateverthe heck it is, I will Oh
yeah, there you go. Yeah, all right, thanks for watching out.
Thanks, guzz have a good one, all right, Chris said,

(50:32):
we both look good and sound goodon her end all right, Obviously she
needs new glasses, all right,let's see a muama. This was from
December twelfth, twenty seventeen, sowhat five years ago? Some almost Yeah,

(50:54):
everybody remembers it. It was inthe news. Yeah, uh yeah,
let's see the alien asteroid. OnOctober nineteenth of twenty nineteen, UM
Robert Ware exploded an asteroid. Iwas exipping through the solar system at a

(51:15):
rate of one hundred ninety six thousandmiles per hour. That's fast. My
cousin said, Oh man, nexttime I'm on here, remind me of
my FBI contact in my computer crashingwhen I was researching Area fifty one.
I want to hear that story,because yeah, that sounds pretty fascinating.

(51:38):
Actually yeah, uh, let's seethe object was zippering. That sounds good,
sounds good. Ah see, Yeah, I'm just exipping through the solar

(52:00):
system at a rate of one hundredninety six thousand miles per hour. Where
it was using the pan Star's telescopeat the haliak Kala. I don't know
it's It's Hawaiian Helia Observatory in Hawaii, hence the vale heavy Polynesian name a
muamua. A muamua means scout toreach out, first or reach out into

(52:22):
advance, where it says he seesthe asteroid as a messenger from the past
that is reaching out to us.At first, it was it was thought
that a muumu was a comet thatit was quickly reclassified due to its lack
of a commentary tail, but wassoon reclassified again to its odd shaped in
providence, possibly coming from the starof Vega in the Lyric constellation, this

(52:45):
interstellar object became the being the firstof its kind ever observed, was given
a unique classification with the name oneL Slash twenty seventeen You won aka a
muamua a mua movie several hundred metersin length, with its height and width
about a tenth of that. Theodd structure is feeding for interstellar travel and

(53:07):
is a shape that scientists believe wouldbe ideal for interstellar spacecraft. The cigar
shape minimizes for friction and damage frominterstellar gas and dust, preventing collisions that
large round asteroids would be more successiblewould be more susceptible to though most astronomers
assume that simply an icy asteroid greeningthrough space on a six hundred thousand year

(53:29):
journey from Vega others believe it's worthlooking at a little more closely for evidence
of extraterrestrial life. This is wheretheir Breakthrough Listening project got involved. When
they got when they pointed the GreenBank telescope at it for a ten hour
or period to pick up any radiofrequencies were nomalies. The program, funded

(53:50):
by the Russian billionaire Urie Millner,in coordination with Stephen Hawking and the SETI
program at UC Berkeley, devote satellitepower to listening for a stratrestrial life in
the universe. Are they're not gettingtheir hopes up with a muamu, they
believe it to be worthwhile in whetheror not it turns out to be a
spaceshipt artifact or a psychic monolith likethe one Arthur's c. Clark Space Odyssey.

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Breakthrough Listens or Breakthrough Listen believes itcan at least glean some useful information
on this cosmic phenomena. After pointingout or after pointing the Green Bake telescope
at a muamua a, scientists don'tbelieve they have discovered any signals, though
some believe it could have triggered anawakening of the extratestial entity from which it

(54:36):
originated. This is according to NickPope, the former head of the Ministry
of Defense for the UK. Scientistsare still intrigued by the composition of the
asteroid, as it appears to havea strange organic coating around it, possibly
protecting its intercomposition. Normally, asteroidalobjects like these are composed of ice and
rock, leaving a trail in theirwake, especially when it comes within close

(54:58):
proximity of a star. A mumuacame particularly particularly close to the Sun get
An admitted no tail and continued hisjourney at at a mercurial speed out towards
the edge of the Solar system.According to scientists who are able to catch
a quick glimpse, a muamua consistedof minerals and alloys not found in our
solar system, adding to as mystique. Oh that's interesting. I want to

(55:22):
know about these alloys. How doyou too, How do you too?
I mean, obviously they got agood look at it with a spectroscope,
so they've got to be some wayof identifying these alloys. Yeah, it

(55:44):
says a mumu is shape and speedaren't the only characteristics that have puzzled scientists.
Is dark red color reflecting only fourpercent of sunlight, seems to vary
in color as scientists observe it.Looking at under infrared light, scientists noticed
it was gray in color, typicalfor an icy body that we have seen
more locally, though it did notadmit the tale normally scene with icy asteroids,
and comments, I mean, ifyou're traveling through interstellar space, it's

(56:07):
cold, It's going to be coldsoaked. Yeah, absolutely it is.
Yeah, it's gonna be so cold. Even passing close to the Sun isn't
really gonna warm it up, right, Um. Then another article that came
up on it, the government admitsa Muamua wasn't the first interstellar object.

(56:31):
Now this is interesting. Yeah,uh, let's see Sam is right right?
Absolutely, Uh, the US militaryconfirmed and the first this was from

(56:54):
April of this year, so they'restill talking about it. Yeah, obviously
some questions. It says the USmilitary can from the first stellar object to
hit Earth was years before a momentand Correbrate's research done by a famous astronomer.

(57:15):
We reported before the Omumua, thefirst interstellar object to enter our solar
system in twenty seventeen in Harvard,professor Avi leb or Avi Leb's book arguing
Amomu might be extraterrestrial whether whatever itwas, its existence was remarkable as the
first interstellar object in our solar system, but now we are learning to omo

(57:35):
Amomu was a second interstellar object inour solar system, and this discovery was
made by none other than Ivi Leb. In twenty nineteen, Leb, working
with his student A mere Saraje,come through the database of media is looking
for other interstellar objects. When theyfound evidence of a fast moving media that
hit or Earth, they wrote apaper arguing was interstellar too, and proceeded

(58:00):
to Moo moo by almost four years. The referees of the paper that we
wrote rejected the paper and argued thatit should not be published. Leb said,
because they don't trust the government andperhaps the uncertainties that are often quantified
in the scientific literature as air bars, which they are just the level of
uncertainty and the measurements that are unknown. So the paper cannot go through period

(58:22):
view or be published. Because theyused a public government database, the level
uncertainty or air bars were kept classified. The US military does not reveal that
information as it could give away thesensitivity of their equipment. The paper was
stuck in academic limbo until now.US based Command just released a memo sent
to Nashist science chief confirming the Leband Sarage's work, sharing in a tweet

(58:44):
that they confirmed that they previously detectedinterstellar object was indeed in an interstellar object
the size, proving the lab rightthat the media in twenty fourteen was an
interstellar What is the significance of thisevent quote? First of all, the
government helps the progress of science,which is quite a watershed moment in a
way. Because this was classified information. They're willing to release part of it.

(59:07):
They're not giving us the full measurements, but they're saying at a ninety
nine point that excuse me that wewere right in our twenty nineteen paper with
my student. Lab said the secondpoint is actually the first interstellar object that
have been that have to have beendetected because it predates a mumu by almost
four years. Finally, a mumuwas about one hundred meters in size,

(59:30):
and we discovered with telescopes because ofthe reflection of sunlight. In a case
of a meteor, you will seea fireball generated as it rubs against the
atmosphere and burns up and so youcan see the smaller objects because you're not
relying on the reflection of light fromthe sun. Right. So, I
mean, there's a lot more toit, but it's basically talking about looking

(59:51):
for this object to suppose the camin the atmosphere, all that stuff.
So let's see. Alicia, shesaid, it reminds me of the will
Probe and Star Trek, the VoyaJohn Yeah, kind of, Yeah,
what is it? I mean I'veheard rumors you know that uh, that

(01:00:15):
this guy, that Abby leb orwhatever, he's about the only one that
really believes that it's not what thereeverybody else is claiming it to be.
In his argument, I guess wouldwould make sense to that because obviously the
government don't want to come out andsay it, right, you know,
and I know we've talked about thisbefore, but what what changes would it

(01:00:38):
cause, you know, to personalbeliefs, to the old ways, you
know, so to speak, allthat stuff. What would you know?
They would lose control And that's whatit's all about. The government does not
want to lose control of anything,right, So they're not gonna tell us

(01:01:01):
what And I'm sure they already knowoh yeah, oh yeah, they know
one way or the other. AndI'm sure since they're not telling us anything,
it's probably something that we would findshocking, right that they've been here
for ages or were descended from themor I mean the arguments are or they're

(01:01:24):
descended from us, right or theyare us? Yeah, time travel,
Yeah, which I would almost contendthat a lot of a lot of cases
of seeing things like this is that'swhat it is. It could very well

(01:01:44):
at least dimensional, you know,like you say, a lot um.
I think it's plausible. I do, um. I know I've got some
unpopular opinions, but it's just whatI think. If you could call what

(01:02:07):
goes on in my well, itwould make sense. You've known me long
enough to know that that's probably true. So what do you mean, what
are your thoughts on me? Yeah? Yeah, I mean because it came
off the the ecliptic, you know, it came down. It looked like

(01:02:29):
from the map that showed anybody cango look it up, and that's what
drew attention. Yeah, it's movingagain of like what old Billy Bob Thornton
says. Yeah, but you know, like like what Billy Bob Thornton says,
and armageddon. You know, heSai's a big damn sky. Yeah.
How many others have they missed?That's the question I want to or

(01:02:50):
how many others have they caught andhave it said? Yeah, that's what
I want to know me about.You know, And the way the article
read, you know, obviously youknow the first media or whatever being Interstellar,
they were like trying to shut himdown to keep saying from saying anything.

(01:03:13):
My mind the way it works,and everybody knows again, you know,
if you listen to this show atleast a couple of times, you
know how my mind works. Thattells me to try to hide something.
Yeah, well that's the first thingcomes to my mind. Right. Um,
so I don't know, I mean, what what what do you all
think? You know? I mean, um, there's so much that we're

(01:03:38):
not being told. I mean that'sa given that that's in all aspects of
everything. Um, you know,we cover a lot of the stuff on
the What If Tomorrow show? Um, you know, governmental wise and and
all that, but it's just it'sso acinine. They try to cover things

(01:04:01):
up up, you know, likewith the Black Night satellite. You know,
it's it's space gas or swamp gasor whatever. You know, So
somebody so much crap that's implausible.It doesn't make sense, you know what,
what are you all thoughts? Imean, I would love to hear
from you guys. Um. Yeah, Chris, I don't either. I

(01:04:26):
don't trust a word they say asany of it. Yeah, um,
you know. So that's my biggestthing is you can't believe, you know.
And again I don't know how credibleguy it is. I think there's
some I don't want to say shadycharacters, but there's some characters on there
that I don't really put a lotof stock in. Um. But there's

(01:04:55):
some interesting articles on there, andI think they're touching on it, just
from the research I've done on likeI'm Ama and the Black Knight's Satellite.
What intrigues me though, is aboutthe Black Knight's satellite. If it is
thirteen thousand years old, that fitsGraham Hancock's theory to a t absolutely.

(01:05:15):
Could it have been, you know, going back to the Black Knight.
Could it have been like an escapecapsule? You know? And they keep
just at I mean, huh yeahevery once in a while and puts out
a signal, and right, youknow, because there was there's a lot

(01:05:40):
of there's a lot of speculation becauseit was in a polar orbit. And
they say that, well, thatis because they can get a better picture
of the world and being in apolar orbit than you can and you know,
elliptical orbit, you know, anequatorial orbit, whatever you want to
call it, because apparently they're ableto take better pictures because going on a

(01:06:04):
polar So I don't know a lotabout that. I'm not a physicist or
anything like that, don't claim tobe, but I can see it.
It makes sense to me. Soright, well, thirteen thousand years ago,
we were in the middle of anice age, right hard in it.

(01:06:26):
We're still in that ice age.It hasn't ended yet, but it
was hard. I was watching thething last night, and I don't want
to get say a direct quote becauseI don't remember it exactly, but Biden
even came out and said he wasone of his speeches here, you know,
rally speeches or whatever, and he'slike, well, you know,

(01:06:48):
climate change isn't happening, you know, one of his gaffs. I don't
know if you heard that or not, but I did not hear that.
Apparently he didn't need there so well, I mean he is too too old
to cut the mustard anymore. Oh, absolutely he is. He he needs

(01:07:12):
to go. Um you know,I mean trying to avoid getting political here
on this show, but he needsto go. He he's not there.
He could make a fortune selling dependspick him an endorsement deal. Yeah,

(01:07:33):
yeah, I mean he could,uh, he could find the country on
that endorsement deal, the presidential sealon some depends. Yeah, um um
dum dundum. I don't care whoyou are. That's not absolutely that is

(01:08:01):
funny. And that's about as faras you know. I trust the government
is a pair of depends. Yeah, oh yeah, they're they're full of
it for sure. Name the liddlename, you're in trouble. Oh my

(01:08:27):
goodness, that escalated quickly. Well, but you noticed she didn't say you're
a lying No, she did notsay it was wrong like Nike. Could

(01:08:54):
he could he get him a asuit with you know, it depends loco
and so what kind of lobbyist itdepends as I don't know, I don't
know, or maybe the flesh right, Yeah, let's just said, I

(01:09:15):
trust depends more than the government Ohmy god, yes, absolutely, yeah.
Oh man, yeah, man,I don't really have a lot more.
I mean, I think we coveredhim really well. Um. I

(01:09:36):
mean, I mean, I thinkit's hard to say, like a moo
move, it's hard to say whatit is. There's some compelling evidence that
it could be extraterrestrial. That obviousleb or whatever says something about it it
possibly being a solar sale and theway it moves, you know, it
rotates end over end wish wouldn't makesense for a space during vehicle because it

(01:10:00):
would create gravity. So I don'tknow, I don't know. I mean,
but like you said earlier, Iwould be curious as to see as
a what kind of metal this thingwas made out of? That they said
that doesn't exist in our shoulder systems, right, So it's kind right,

(01:10:30):
but you know they can't and setit came from, you know, possibly
came from Lyra or whatever. Well, the Vega system. They're supposed to
be Lerian aliens. They're more ofa i'll see what I'll see if I
can find one. Uh. Andactually we're kind of talking about this over

(01:10:51):
the weekend, but it was kindof kind of cool. Yeah, Been
and Joe want to talk about someof the stuff that they've talked about with
some people. We really do thoseguys? Are they know their stuff?
Yeah? Uh, as far asI know, Alicia, they're not.

(01:11:15):
I would imagine they're studying their data, but it's already gone. Yeah,
the window to study it probably cameand went in a matter of weeks.
Yeah, they said it was quick. They said it was quick and even
as fast as it was moving andtook how many thousands of years to get
here? Right? Unless there's spacenineteen ninety nine style space warps out there

(01:11:44):
that we don't know about, andwhat's to say? That's not impossible?
I mean, you know, whatcould have been a gag for a TV
show could be real, real deal. I mean, look at Star Trek.
You could argue the things in StarTrek actually drove the inventions later.

(01:12:09):
But still Yeah, but Lerians aresupposedly a type of feline humanoids. Oh
that would be fun. Um,there's supposedly that. Yeah, you have

(01:12:34):
Larrians, you have Nordics, youhave the Grays, the manted beings,
yeah, all that stuff. Socould it be? I don't know.
Yeah, I'll share this real quickkind of a general idea Um, what's

(01:12:56):
cool. I need to email thedude. He's an author. I need
to email he dream writes science fiction, but just his ideas. I want
to see where they came from becausesome of his characters are like, you
know, I mean that that's whatthey say. A Lerians supposedly looks like
uh, Larrians are very experienced.I mean just talk like characteristics and things

(01:13:18):
like that. I need to Ineed to get hold of Ben and Joe
and see if because I know therewas, um, they had a guest
on that was really versed in inthe different races supposed Um, I know

(01:13:44):
the Lyrians, like I said,the Lyrians, the Mantids, the uh
you know, Gray's Nordics, allthat stuff. Um, they're supposed to
know Draconian and they say a lotof you know, the Dacronians are supposed
to the earth born. But theGalactic what they called the Galactic Federation said

(01:14:08):
they cannot mess with the humans orsomething like that. I don't know,
it gets pretty deep. Uh yeah, Chris said, they probably tells the
truth. Anyway, when they weretalking about taking a closer look at it,
you know, you're absolutely right.I don't know, it's it's pretty
deep. And I need to talkto Ben and Joe because Ben, there's

(01:14:28):
a they went to, uh,the UFO Congress out in Vegas has been
a couple of years ago, andthey had somebody that was there. U
kind of gave him a reading andhe said, you know that he was
like a dwarf And maybe Pam wouldn'tknow more about this because of the Faye
and all that stuff, um,but said he was more of a Dwarf

(01:14:54):
lineage, you know, because hewas part of the ground and all that,
because he was a landscaper, youknow. And this came about after
the fact after she told him thisand all that, you know, and
he was kind of I guess Lerian, whereas Ben was kind of protected by
mantids or something like that. Idon't, I don't know. It's kind

(01:15:16):
of weird, but but that's whatwe talk about here. Hey, if
they're real, we can probably meetthem at at like an anime festival because
they can probably walk around and nobodythinks that anything about it, right or
or UFOL Congress or whatever, youknow, Vegas or um. You know,
because I was talking to him thisthis past weekend and they were talking

(01:15:38):
about being out there, he said. Men, the people out there that
come out and cosplay and all thatfor these UFO Congress and things. You
know, it's it's crazy. Itsays worse than any comic con, is
it, Chris. It's kind ofweird but kind of cool. Yeah?
Or are they just pretending to cosplayso they don't have to wear their question

(01:15:59):
human dis guys? Right, that'sa good question, Uh, lady alien?
Yeah, have you watched it?I tried watching an episode. It
wasn't bad. I'm gonna have toget into that. It's great, man,

(01:16:21):
Yeah, it's great. The secondseason leads you hanging, of course,
but it's great. I love itthe show. It's it's it's funny.
But again, is it one ofthose uh is it one of those
you know, fiction and imitating realityor something like that? You know it

(01:16:44):
could I mean you could go bothways. Oh yeah, absolutely good.
You know they always say art.But yeah, I want to find somebody
way around to right, Yeah,yep, it is. I want to
find somebody. I don't know ifit's Melinda, Leslie or what, but

(01:17:12):
I'll get with Ben and Joe andsee what if they can points in that
direct action. Okay, Yeah,so I think i'd be interested. Uh,
that'd be an interesting show. Um. We got some people that were

(01:17:32):
working on we need to get on. UM. I don't know if you'll
remember if you were at the paracon. I know you do, Mark.
I think you have his contact information. Brian or whatever his name is.
I don't remember Brian right over hereactually about the UFOs yeah, or

(01:17:56):
about the big foot guy. Uh, I got that here too. Yeah,
to you. We need to talkto that guy too, even if
it is just to talk to himbecause he was pretty scared. He was
scared to death. I don't wantto go into it just because confidentiality reasons,
um. But he seemed like hewanted to talk to us. UM.

(01:18:20):
And those are the same things inthat same area. We need to
go out there. I was gonnabring that up to you back, going
out there maybe a Saturday night orsomething like that and hanging out. I'm
all in um. But you know, the bigfoot guy from the para Cohn
was Brian something, wasn't it.Yeah, hold on, I don't remember

(01:18:44):
his name anyway. He was talkingabout going down to Osage Hills right and
camping out because there's been a lotof sightings. Well, well a week
and a half ago or whatever,where my wife and I and my little
ones we're driving down to Bahuska towatch my oldest son perform, and it

(01:19:04):
explained everything because of all the constructionand the blasting and stuff they're doing.
I was like, that's why there'sbeen so many sightings down there, because
they've got them stirred up. They'rechanging their environment, and they're they're built
putting new roads through. So ifyou're if you're near, if you're near
the area, say Chills Area,Oklahoma, and you're listening, we would

(01:19:27):
love to hear the stories if youhave experiences out there. Yeah, there's
a literently a lot of stuff goingon out there. Yeah, and especially
if they're doing what's that Mark,I want to go? Yeah, it'd
be cool. Um, especially ifif they've got it stirred up like they
do during doing all the road constructionand stuff like that. Definitely. Um.

(01:19:48):
I don't know, I don't reallyhave a lot more to share.
I don't know if you do,Mark or or whatever. I really don't
have a lot right now. Now. I mean, okay, my brain
is starting to wind down from uhcoffee let down and I want you to

(01:20:10):
know. I want you to knowPhil must really love me because he brought
me like a pound of chocolate coveredcoffee beans, which is one of my
favorites. We talked about the Halloweenshow and uh, I got into them
yesterday and I'm not sure anybody atworked liked me after that. Yeah,

(01:20:35):
you're welcome. I like it,Chris. I don't have any problem with
you. I've been staying out ofthem before I come home. Uh yeah,

(01:21:02):
uh, but no, anyway,folks, I don't have a lot
more to add to it. Um. I hope you enjoyed the show tonight.
I hope you have more questions.And again, if you're from down
around the z H Hills area,you know, by all means reach out
to us. We'd love to hearany experiences. Now, I gotta play

(01:21:23):
this, um because it's the birthdayof the Saint so much loved all my
brother and the sisters up there.You know, I had a great time

(01:21:43):
with with everybody that I served,with some lifelong friends that I would do
anything for right now. Uh,you can't explain it, you have to
live it. But they made mewho I end the day, the good
and the bad. So simplified,all you guys, and with that being
said, we'll catch you next episode. Good Night, folks, m m

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