Feeling Stuck and Burned Out? with Natalie Wynn

Air Date - 07 January 2026

Natalie Wynn helps high-achieving, ambitious women break free from scarcity, rewire subconscious limiting beliefs, and step into overflow. She is a mindset coach and mentor who helps activate powerful internal shifts that realign mindset, energy, and action, enabling more wealth, freedom, and fulfillment. She is the author of Manifest Your Limitless Life and the founder of Inspire Life365.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the Perfect Life Awakening Show, hosted by Royce Morales.
Royce has been a transformational facilitator, teaching groundbreaking spiritually based
courses for more than four decades. She is the author
of three books about her teachings. Join Royce as she
takes you on a journey into how to live your
best life and find your true purpose through discovering the

(00:31):
origins of subconscious, disempowering notions and releasing them. She talks
with experts and inspiring people just like you who learned
to trust their intuitive inner wisdom, which led to life
changing shifts. Today, her guests live in empowered existence and
are helping change the world to a higher consciousness place

(00:52):
based on truth and love. You deserve to awaken, to
align with and embody your true self and live a
life filled with love. Transform yourself from triggered to empowered
and create your perfect life. Here is your host, Rice Morales.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Welcome everyone. We have a special guest, my dog Gigi.
You might have heard her in previous episodes adding her contribution,
but again, welcome. I'm so glad you're here, and I
hope everybody had a wonderful, joyous, peaceful, perhaps new year

(01:35):
and Christmas and anything else you celebrate, And I just
want to share something before I even introduced my guest.
I want to share a wonderful thought that I read
on her website, and this is a quote. She said,
You're not here to play small. You were created for abundance,

(01:56):
purpose and peace. I just think that is so true,
and we're going to definitely get into that today.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
But most of us.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Find that we work harder if we struggle, If we
do all that stuff, do more, it doesn't get us more.
You know, I've been there a lot in my life,
so I get it. So why is that we're going
to talk about all of that? And of course, bottom line,
it goes down to our mindset, our beliefs, and all

(02:25):
the stuff that's running us in the background. So by
shifting all of that and getting rid of some of
those false beliefs and those stories that we're telling ourselves,
especially about abundance and money, and I guess Ggo's board
she's gone. So it's it's not only shift will it
shift our relationship with money and abundance, but it's going

(02:48):
to shift our life. So with that in mind, i'd
like to introduce my guest.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Today.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
She is amazing. She helps high achieving, ambitious women. And
I'm going to ask her why to swim in in
a minute, break free from scarcity, programming, rewire subconscious limiting beliefs,
and step into overflow.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I love that word. That's a perfect word.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
She's a mindset coach and mentor who helps people, helps
experience more wealth, freedom and fulfillment. And she has twenty
years a Fortune five hundred corporate leadership on entrepreneurship and
transformational coaching. She's the author of Manifest Your Limitless Life

(03:35):
and the founder of Inspire Life three sixty five. Welcome
Natalie Wynn. I'm so glad that you're here.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Thank you so much, Royce, I'm excited to be here.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yay. Yeah, we had a few little technological issues going on,
but you made it. I'm so glad. Yes, yes, tell
us your story. How did you get into this field?
Tell us your background, what inspired you from doing this,
et cetera.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, so interestingly enough, I got in this field I think, hmm,
maybe about twenty twenty something years ago. I didn't realize
I was in this field. I think that's key to understanding.
I was invited to what they called a dream retreat

(04:28):
at the time, and it was just for women, and
it was my first time being introduced to vision boards.
And it wasn't it wasn't like we did a vision
board there. Literally, someone just said it. That was it.
Everyone should do a vision board, put your things that
you desire, whatever, And so I was like, well, that's interesting,

(04:49):
and then the program just kept going. So I decided
to take that little tidbit of information back home with
me and I actually implemented and did it. I realized,
maybe not even a year later, how much had coming
to fruition in my life from just sitting down and
taking the time to think about what I wanted, why

(05:11):
I wanted it, and then place it on the board
excuse me. And so from there it just kind of
I just kind of started inviting friends and family, and
they started inviting friends and families, and before I knew it,
I was hosting these vision boards in my home. But
then I was also providing like a workshop. I would
read constantly about mindset, about spiritual principles, and I integrated

(05:37):
that into these what was supposed to be vision boards.
You know, I had never been to one, so this
was the only type that I knew, and I found
myself intrigued by how women specifically show up for themselves
and how much stress and burnout or exhaustion that they're

(05:58):
carrying every single or just not even feeling like they
have the ability to dream anymore. And so that led
me into the path or where I am now eventually,
you know, but life just kind of took its own
turn somewhere after I got married, I found myself going
through divorce.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
I found myself.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Essentially my job or our business, because we had a business,
but it was still my job working in that business,
being replaced. I was being uprooted from my home, and
I just thought to myself, I cannot live in depression forever,
Like I just cannot live like this, Like life has
to move forward. What can I do to reframe? What

(06:41):
can I do to lift myself up out of this
dark place? Because I know somewhere intuitively that abundance is
my birth right, and everything that I desire I can have,
whether it's being married or unmarried. Like all of the
things that we play in our head, letting go of guilt,

(07:04):
letting go of shame, all of these things that came
up after that moment in my life really transformed me
and pushed me to go deeper into how the brain works,
how to use subconscious techniques to really lift myself up

(07:26):
from a depressive state, how to remove myself from burnout
and really think about what is it that I truly
desire and who I am as a person, but also
who I am as a woman, because society puts all
these labels on us. So yeah, that's kind of how
I ended up getting into this space, and that led

(07:47):
my own personal development, led to me looking at certifications
and going, I need to know more so that I
can show up for more women who are likely learn
through the same thing or will go through something similar
that I've been through. And I want to be I
want to be that light that says, hey, it doesn't

(08:08):
have to be it doesn't have to be terrible, or
it doesn't have to feel this way all the time,
And this is how you can This is how you
can move past it, This is how you can release
a lot of the things that you're carrying.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
So before we get into how you do that with people,
I'm so curious, and I of course think about this
a lot all the time. Why is it that you
think that women suffer more from this than men. You know,
what is that about, either sociologically or psychology, What is
it about why?

Speaker 4 (08:45):
I think it's all of the things Royce that that
you just mentioned. I think it's societal. If you look
at the history of the place that women have held
in our society. I mean, honestly, we considered property and
that's all of us in one form or another. So

(09:05):
already who you are is being dictated by someone else,
how you show up, how you're supposed to think, what
you're supposed to like. It has been dictated for you know,
I guess millennium, you know, for you know, for us,
and I think you probably know this. But a lot
of times and not a lot of times scientifically, we

(09:27):
carry generational trauma, and I believe it goes as deep
as fourteen generations. That's a really long time. I mean
that's what they know for sure, so it could be
longer in that. So we're carrying all of these things
of who we are from other people and not ever

(09:48):
having taken the time to define that for ourselves. And
so I think when we have marriages or businesses, life circumstances,
and it doesn't come out to be perfect by society standards.
Women inherently take on the fault and the blame for

(10:10):
that as if it's a representation of who they are.
And so those are some of the things that I
think holds us, pushes us down mentally as women because
we just have we never been taught so between society,
between upbringing, parenting, because it just carries on, right, it
carries on from one generation to the next. So then

(10:32):
you're told this is how a good girl shows up,
this is what a good woman does. So you're you
got divorced or you're having issues in your marriage, what
did you do? You know what I mean? Like, it's
never usually them, even when it's them and we know it,
it's you could have done more. And I think we

(10:54):
actually buy into that reality and that's not that's not
our truth, but a lot of us don't know that.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
What about the fact that this might seem obvious, I
don't know, but the fact that women are the mothers,
you know, we give birth and we are responsible for
those little creatures and you can't hand it over to
a man if you're breastfeeding, I mean, all of does
that come into play also, and the guilt about not
being a mother.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Absolutely, I think all of that. So let's let's let's
really talk about that, because I know inherently as women
we are we are the I'm going to use this word,
I'm gonna say incubator. We're the ones that are incubating
that baby, bringing it into this world, and there is
a bond and an attachment. But I also think that

(11:48):
the way that we've set things up, meaning society and
ourselves even have decided that the burden and responsibility lies
solely on the woman. If we were in an environment
where we were taught that it's really shared responsibility, it

(12:09):
is not just on you, maybe we would see things
differently and we would do things differently. I can remember
my mother telling me she breastfed me, and what she
said to me was, she said, I breastfed you. And
she said, so, I can't understand why your cousin is
breastfeeding twenty four to seven. Nobody watch the baby because

(12:32):
she is constantly breastfeeding, right, And she said, when I
breastfed you, she said, I breastfed you at night and
I pumped during the day so someone else could take
you and they could just feed you with the bottle. Right.
So my mother had this idea that, yeah, she is

(12:52):
the caretaker for me, she's the nurturer, but someone else
can help me as well. And I think as women,
we have to learn how to let go and allow
other people to help us and that they are just
as good. It may not be exactly how we want it,
but we don't have to carry the burden and the
responsibility all on our own. So even that is a

(13:14):
belief to me, It is a belief setup that because
I'm the mother, I'm the soul nurturer, or I am
the soul nurturer, which that's not true. It doesn't have
to be that way, because there are plenty of women
who can't breastfeed, There are plenty of women who can't
do a lot of the things that some women do.
But until we break that belief that we have to

(13:37):
be the all to everyone and that if it doesn't
work out, it's my fault, you know, I'm the one
that's shamed. Until we're able to recognize, hey, why am
I doing it this way? Where did this belief come from?
Is there something that I could do differently? Then we're
gonna constantly be in that cycle. Even the idea of

(13:58):
a woman not being able to maybe have children who
the the the the what is the word I'm looking for?
The hm hm. The The way society views her is
even interesting, you know. The I'm gonna use the bear
and woman right is as if she's less than a woman.

(14:20):
And that's interesting because where did that belief come from?

Speaker 5 (14:24):
You know?

Speaker 4 (14:24):
I mean, it's more than one way to have a family.
There's more than one way to provide and nurture. But
I don't think we ever, not not all of us,
but a lot of people don't ever think past the
current training and beliefs, which just because you believe it
doesn't make it truth.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, you know, so what about the the as you're
talking and thinking, there's a part of us that is
still very connected to our primitive nature. And even though
we have all kinds of opportunities to, you know, give
a kid a bottle instead of a breast, and somebody
daycare and do all that stuff, I think there's the

(15:04):
primitive part of us that says, no, you're supposed to
be taking care. This is your child. You know, we've
got that energetic primitive connection to it.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (15:15):
I do, I do know what you mean. I think naturally.
I mean, at the root of it all, I mean,
we're mammals, right, So we are animal, we're animal, we're humans,
but we have those animal instincts, and even when we
go into that fight in flight mode, we tend to
go to our survival primitive you know ways. So I'm

(15:39):
not saying that there's a natural, innate instinct for women
to have that this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
I think that's why as women, we feel so much
guilt when we do have to leave the baby at
the daycare, you know, and go to work. Some of us,

(16:00):
not all of us, some of us, many of us,
And so that instinct is there for a lot of women.
And what I would say is is that you know,
you can have all of that love and know that
you are instinctively a nurturer and want to be there

(16:24):
and be there in the best way possible. At the
same time, you can also learn how to not guilt
and shame yourself for having to live life, you.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Know, And how do you do that thinking? You know,
I've done a lot of spiritual work. I've been doing
this for over forty years, and I know on a
logical level that I was a really good mom. You know,
I was really committed to being the best mom ever

(16:59):
because my mom was, shall we say, not the best.
And yet I look back and I think, oh, should
I have done this other thing?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
And maybe I shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Have done this.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
You know, there's still that little little voice of guilt
once in a while, not all the time, but once
in a while. So how do you help people to
get past that? I think that's so important if they're
going to you know, be successful and flourish and all
of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yeah, that's such an awesome question. So one of my
frameworks is called the ATM method, And essentially, the A
stands for awareness, the T is transformation, and the M
is from movement, right, And so I like to use
this framework for just about anything that we are, anything

(17:50):
that we're struggling with. And so with the mom, let's say,
in this particular example, I would sit down and we
would just kind of talk about having some awareness around
why you feel that guilt. Now, I want you asterisk
I'll be astik this. We're all human. So no matter
how much work we do, there is it's like an onion, right,

(18:15):
there's layers we peel back, peel back one layer and
then something else comes up. So perfection isn't you know,
isn't the goal? Okay, perfection isn't the goal. We're always
a work in progress. So I just want to say
that that even when we've done a lot of work,
things creep up. But it's how we deal with it

(18:35):
when it creeps up, right, But going back to the
ATM method, So the first thing is just getting awareness
when you're starting to feel that shame and if you're
finding that the shame is pulling you down, if you're
revisiting it over and over and over in your mind
about how you're not enough, how you didn't do enough,
and I'm an awful person and I'm a bad person. Well,

(18:58):
let's get some awareness around that and start to think
about what else is coming up for you when you
are triggered and start to feel this way, Because from
that point then we can work through the transformation, which
is getting to the root cause of where that belief
came from. What makes you think that you didn't do

(19:20):
enough as a mom, Because you know, you know this,
When we go and play back things in our mind
from memory, it's usually not quite exactly what it was.
We typically add on and we don't usually add on
great stuff. We're usually adding on the worst things. So

(19:41):
so you know, we get to the root cause as
far as the transformation of what makes you believe that
you were not a good mother, that you didn't do enough.
And then once we can get to the root cause
of that, it's going to come up. We can then
release it. We can release it through different subconscious model
to these techniques or provide you with or I would

(20:03):
provide you with tools to help you calm your nervous
system down when you're in you know, in that mode
when that comes up, so that you can better process
and then bring yourself back faster from this spiral of
I'm not enough or I didn't do enough. And then

(20:23):
of course the movement is actually implementing and you know,
taking the action that you need to make sure that
you start to train the brain and train your body
and your nervous system with a new a new thought pattern.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
So when you say you help people get to the
root cause, who's that like all the way back to childhood, birth,
passage or where does it go?

Speaker 4 (20:53):
It can go back, it can go back to to
pass live. So I am certified in NLP, which for
your audience, if you don't know this New Linguistic programming
and other you know, techniques and modalities, excuse me. And
so one of the techniques is the past lives or

(21:13):
past present timeline and going back and seeing if it
was generations, it was before the womb inside the womb,
you know, that type of thing, and working through that.
That's one of them. Depending on the person, you know,
different modalities work differently for different people, especially based on
their beliefs you know at the time. But yeah, I
definitely do all of that. We look at somatic techniques,

(21:38):
of course, because I'd like to know not just what
it is that you're saying, but what it is that
you're feeling. What is your body telling you what's coming
up for you, because that, you know, signals whether or
not maybe you're there's some stuck energy in your body.
If we need to figure out how to calm that

(22:00):
nervous system, if you're operating from a fight or flight mode,
what's triggering that? You know? I like to ask questions
when you spiral in such a way that it brings
you down, Like I say, well, what were you doing
before right before that? Can you remember what it was
you were doing right before that? And this is good
for your listeners, is to ask yourself what was I
doing right before that? Because again, that gives you a

(22:22):
sense of awareness to see if that's a pattern, if
there's something going on in your life or in your
area or in your environment that triggers you to start,
you know, beating yourself up.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Yeah, so do.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
You find I've got a couple of questions, one at
a time. Do you find because I know that in
your on your website you said that you work with
successful high achieving women. Are they open to as a
general rule, are they open to doing this kind of work?

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah? They really are. So, you know, successful high achieving
women we can all agree I think on this is
that they are smart, they're driven, They have this natural
drive and they know they are capable. And it's not
just capable in their careers. That inherent capability I think

(23:20):
extends to other areas as well. So when they find
themselves stuck or realize that they've hit that wall and
burned out, in their mind, somewhere it clicks and says,
I'm capable of getting through this. You know, I just
need to find the help because I can't live like
this anymore. So I find that they are more open.

(23:42):
They it may take a while for them to realize
that they are feeling stuck and burnt out, because on
paper everything looks great. They look successful. They have the degrees,
they or they have the certifications, or they have the
great jobs. They have the house, they have the car.
So if someone looks at them from the outside, they're like, oh,

(24:02):
she has it together right, while they're feeling actually inside,
why do I feel like I don't have enough? Why
am I so stressed? Why I'm just not supported? This
is not the life that I imagine for myself. I'm
making the money, but where is the money? You know?

(24:24):
It is? So I do think that those high achieving women,
they just have a sense of about them of wanting
more once visualize things aren't really going the way that
they want or hope.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
In all the years that I've been doing the work
that I do, I find that, first of all, women
are much more open to doing inner work as a
general rule. But I find that sometimes women that are
highly successful or brilliant in whatever it is that they're doing,
they have a hard time getting past that mind versus

(25:06):
emotion and body. You know, it's very hard for them
to connect in that way. Do you find that to
be true?

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Absolutely? I think if we think about again, it's going
to go back to that societal training. The way that
a lot of women have become successful is that they've
had to block there. I'm gonna use the word femininity.
They've had to block that femininity, that sense of I'm
a woman who you know, I'm just a poor, you know,

(25:36):
little woman, emotional, you know words that especially I hear
in the corporate space, You're so emotional. So they block
and shut off those things, Yeah, so that they can
fit in and so that they can climb and logically
they you know, they hit those goals, but they also
have that barrier, that wallop, that hardness that's there. Well,

(25:59):
what I find the most interesting about high achieving women
is that it can take them longer to recognize the
internal struggle that's within them. You know, I think with
some other women, you know you kind of just know,

(26:21):
you're just like, something's just not right. But because they
have cut themselves off emotionally to fit in a place
or in a world that really doesn't necessarily want to
accept them as women. Being in that space because they've
cut that off, cut that off, they have lost disconnection
with that into intuitive side, because in this society, that's

(26:46):
you're you're told you're weak if you're operating from that space,
and so it takes them a little bit longer to
come around to recognize. Okay, my burnout is not because
of these external facts. My burnout is that there are
some things internally that I need to to tweak. Yeah,

(27:08):
I need to get back to, you know, get back
to the core of who I am and knowing that
I can still operate in my career, in my role,
still be driven while also being intuitively aware of what's going.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
On and emotional.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, exactly, and that all of that stuff is real.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
As you're talking, I'm flashing back to something that happened
about maybe twenty years ago. My closest friend called me
up and she was absolutely beside herself, and I said,
what happened? She said, Oh, it was a horrible day
at work.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
And I cried, so so.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
You don't understand. I've never had a corporate job. I
don't understand. You just can't do that at work. She
was just mortified. Yeah, wow, I'm so sorry. Gosh, I
guess I'll never work in a corporate corporate job then,
because I'd be crying.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
All the time. I can remember for myself being in
my corporate space, and again it's a Fortune five hundred company,
so it's a pretty large space. My manager, she's a female,
and I was having just I was just having just
a breakdown. And I remember coming in I did not

(28:29):
I left my laptop at home. So I left my laptop,
my work laptop at home. But already before I got
to work, I was just struggling mentally, just overwhelmed in
so many areas. I was in this really awful kind
of situation of a relationship. So I get to work,
I sit at my desk and I'm going to just

(28:50):
go in and I look for my laptop and it's
not there, and I just have a breakdown. I just
have all on meltdown. Royce, and she could see some
kind of way she came, she came near me and
she could see it just come across and she was like,

(29:10):
let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, and rushes
me out to go, like to the restroom far away
from where the office is, just so no one would
be able to see that I was crying or that
I had tears welled up in my eyes. And at
the time, you know, I didn't really it didn't really click,

(29:35):
you know, I didn't. I wasn't understanding because I was
in the mist. But later I thought about it because
for me, I came into the corporate space very late
in life, so I've lived a full life of bus ownership, entrepreneurship,
being free, so I don't have the same type of
mindset in this space. I don't care if you see

(29:56):
that I've cried. I don't. I don't care if you
see that I'm in a mood to not talk to you.
I'm okay with that. It's great. But there is a
corporate etiquette that's there. And in the case of my manager,
she's been my manager at the time, she's been in
corporate all her life. So this is the training, so

(30:19):
your friend, and that is the training. And it does
cut you off emotionally because what it says is that
if you're crying, then you're weak. If you're crying, you're
not good enough. If you're crying, it's your fault. If
you're crying, you're emotional. All of these things that we
start to take on as beliefs and fact when actually

(30:43):
it's not. We know, you and I know that crying
is a way to release, it's actually a way to
heal your body.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yes, yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
And there's happy tears and there's sad tears, and if
you looked under a microscope, you would see that they
are not even the same. You know, they're mate, it's
full just so you know, it's just just those things
that they I feel, like high achieving women, they they
end up I don't want to say it gets lost,

(31:12):
because you can always get it back, but it just
goes so far back away from them that they lose
the tools that can help them cope in environments for
them to to even to sustain, but then even to
go to the next level, because we're too busy living
what everyone else says, you know, or says how we're

(31:33):
supposed to live and how we're supposed to be, because
that's how it's been forever.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, and I think it's starting to change a little bit.
I mean, just the fact that we almost elected Kamala Harris.
You know, maybe you know, because it used to be that, oh,
we don't want women in politics because they're too emotional,
and you know, and they would have access to the
nuclear codes and they would bomb the world because they're

(31:59):
having a bad day.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
You know, Yeah, definitely. But it's it's you know, we
have made such strides when you see Kamala, even when
you see when Hillary you know, ran, or even Comma
being a vice president, that was you know, really that
was a that was really a progress for it, you know,
and in our country especially, I think we still have

(32:23):
a long way to go. Women still make seventy eight
cents for every dollar for the same job that a
man a man makes, and so it just makes you,
you know, wonder.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Like what is going on?

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Is that is that you know, we talk about the
men holding this idea, but I find as I look around,
as I talk to a lot of women, that there's
a lot of women holding the idea.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah, And so you know that's why I think like
it starts with us, you know, it starts with us.
And once we make that change ourselves and understand what
our worth is, then there's no stopping us. And that's
in every way, that's in every way possible. The same
way that we give that grace, that freedom for men

(33:22):
when can we start giving that freedom to ourselves and
to each other, women women on women, women to women.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
So yeah, well, on that note, let's take a little
break and we will be right back on talking to
Natalie when and we're going to talk about some of
those old money stories that we're telling ourselves, and we'll be.

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Right back home.

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Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I am talking with Natalie Wynn and we're talking about
burnout and abundance and overflow as you call it, and
why we're so stuck as women and others as well.
But I wanted you to talk a little bit about
some of the stories that we tell ourselves about money.

(36:36):
I was raised by somebody that was really very organized
about everything, especially money, and here I was, you know,
an artist, hippy. I was like whatever about money, And
I've always kind of been whatever about money. But I'm
sure that most women, most anybody, I would think, have

(37:00):
some kind of a money story that they keep telling themselves,
like I'm bad with money, or like I just I'm
just organized with money. What are some of the common ones,
and what do you talk about with that?

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Yeah, so I think you hit the nail on the head.
I'm bad with money. It's a big one. And you
know with that, hm, I find that when a lot
of women say they're bad with money, there's some shame
and confusion around money. Another one I hear is I

(37:33):
have to work. And this goes to some money mindset,
but I have to work hard for every dollar. That
one is is very common and and for me, when
I'm looking at their their thought process when they're making
a statement like that, I find that a lot of
times they're locked into overworking, overgiving and burning you know,

(37:56):
and burning out. You know, they keep almost like rest
feels unsafe for them, you know what I mean? Because
money is tied to effort instead of value, like it
just causes them to stay in a loop. Another one
is if I slow down, everything will fall apart. That's

(38:20):
really big for women, especially especially the women who are
carrying the household and or are single moms. They struggle
a lot. Here. What this does is it creates kind
of like a calendar poverty. You know. People think, you know,

(38:42):
when women are successful, like they money wise or what
they see, they think they don't have any issues. But
a lot of times they still feel anxious taking time off,
you know, because they believe money and safety seemed to
disappear without having to do more, without constant action, without

(39:03):
them being in the grind day to day. So I
find that that's that's a big one. I don't deserve
more than this, I think.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Core there you go.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
No, it's like I should be so grateful for what
I have. Why would I ask for more? That's that's
really interesting. And you can when I'm talking to some
of my clients, I can I can see this one
showing up when when they're undercharging for their services, you know,

(39:38):
undercharging over delivering, over delivering exponentially, you know what I mean.
It's like they just have to do the most. And
I also find that they may stay in financial situations
that no longer fit. And that's because you know, a
lot of this is rooted, you know, in their worth,

(40:01):
how they're they're tied to their own self worth and
not their skill set. So yeah, so those are some
of the common the common ones that I hear from
my clients. There's a few more, but those are those
are the most common.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, In in the work that I do, every single
issue always goes down to that core about deserving this.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
It is enough. I am not enough, you know. So
of course if you if we believe that we're not
enough there you know, money is just a mirror, right,
so that means we're not enough to have more more money,
We're not enough to take rest. Who am I to
take rest and not be on the hamster wheel? Yeah,

(40:49):
working constantly, so so yeah, it's it goes back to,
you know, money problems aren't really money problems. Every listeners,
I know that sounds crazy, it's like, what are you
talking about? I need more money? Tell my bilds that
that's what that tell you know, Tell my kids that

(41:11):
who were wanting things left and right, but they're really
it's really an identity, a safety and worthy story that
we're playing out through money. And once you really understand that,
then you can shift the story. And by shifting the story,

(41:31):
then you'll find that money shows up more or easier
opportunities come your way.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
So yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
What about.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I have found I'll just use myself as an example.
I have found that from the time I was like
ten years old, I knew that I was an artist,
and I was going to be an artist when I
grew up, and I was going to create these amazing paintings,
et cetera. Went to art school, majored in art, and college.

(42:08):
It never worked out, and a lot of things happened
from that point to what I'm doing now that literally
took me by the ears and said no, you're not
supposed to be an artist, You're supposed to do this,
and had people land in my lap.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
You know, I had no.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Idea what I was doing, but it all started to
flow and it all came together and I opened a
center and blah blah blah. So what about people that
are just not on the right path. They're not doing
what they're meant to do, they're not doing their purpose,
or they're you know their reason for being, what do
you say to them or what do you do with

(42:46):
them to help them awaken to that?

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Yeah, So I think there's two types of people. I
think there's the person that knows they're not living their
purpose and then there's the person that I'm going to
use you as the example, Royce. It's like, well, I'm
an artist, you know, I'm good at this, I'm great
at this, I love it. This is what I'm supposed

(43:10):
to be doing, and not recognizing that there's a lot
of other things that you can do as well that
you're gifted with. And so one of the questions that
I normally ask someone is if you knew the answer
would be yes, what would you ask for? Or what
would you be doing? What would you be doing right now?
And so I start there just to uncover and get

(43:32):
clarity around what it is that they're saying. Because once
we take away all of these these other external things
around us, take away money, because you got all the
money in the world, you have the life that you
want to live, what would you be doing? That really
uncovers a lot of things for the for our ladies

(43:52):
that are like, I don't know what it is I
want to do. What it forces them to do is
to actually take a moment to sit and think what
would I be doing? What would I ask for? Because
they haven't even they haven't done it. No one's asked
them the question. They haven't asked themselves that, And so
we start from there, and then of course I start

(44:13):
to continue to coach and ask questions around that, like
tell me what does that look like, what does it
feel like? You know what, what do you hear around you?
Those type of things. Now, for the woman who is
doing things that aren't I'm going to use the word
fruitful in the sense monetarily fruitful per se. But they

(44:36):
they love it, they're they're gifted in it, I would
ask the question, you know, tell me what else you
love to do? You know what else? What else? What
are the things that spark joy for you? What are
the things that And so then we'll go through that,
because just because we have one gift, like you're an artist,
doesn't mean you don't have ten more. You've just kind

(44:58):
of honed in on this one gift. I would say
that what you're doing now is still in the realm
of creativity and artistry. It looks different than what you thought.
But there's a million ways that you can be doing
what it is you love that your call to do,

(45:19):
just in a different medium. And that's to me, that's
what it sounds like. I'm just using you, of course
as the example. That's what it sounds like to me.
But a lot of people don't realize that because our
brains sometimes can only process so many us us, ourselves
meaning the human the conscious mind can only process you know,
sevent ten different types of things. But if we really

(45:42):
sit still and get centered, and this is why I
love meditation and prayer, you know, all of those things,
but I love it because those downloads that come they
are infinite things that we haven't thought about. If we
would just let go of the how and open ourselves up,
things will fall in your lap and you will realize

(46:04):
that I didn't have to struggle at all.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Yeah, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Think a lot of times struggle is really kind of
a sign post saying maybe you're not supposed to be
doing this.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Absolutely, I am a I am a big believer. I'm
a big believer in that. Like I don't necessarily think
that everything has to be roses per se, but there
are certain things where I'm like, if this, if it's
if I'm struggling, like if I'm pulling, and it's a
it's just a hardship. That literally is my sign that

(46:39):
you know what this isn't I don't need to go
to this direction like it should not. I just know
if it's what's meant for me is meant for me,
all things work for my good. These are all just
beliefs that I have now all things work for my good.
It wouldn't be like this, and I move on from
it and everything time something else has appeared that wasn't

(47:04):
that way. I mean, it happened with my house, it
happened with I mean it just just learning how to
let go of that control of the how is one
of the biggest skills that any one of us, all
of us should want to have because it frees you.

(47:29):
It allows you to be open to the wondrous, you know,
just to be in awe on a daily basis of
things that just flow into your life because you weren't
so stuck on the idea that it has to be
this way.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
You would be so much happier if you could just
let go of the how and just know that you
are a co creator. You're truly a co creator. And
so I have a saying that I heard it from
someone and I kind of take it on. But it
was if if what you what is see was desired

(48:14):
for you, that was desired by you is destined for you,
what's desired by you is destined for you. And that
may look different because let's say, you know, I desire
to be an artist. Okay, I would say, well, that's
destined for you. Now the type of artist, how that looks,

(48:35):
that's something totally different. But if you're open to it
coming to you in just this supernatural way, like man,
the floodgates will open.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, it's pretty Some of my students, when I tell
them that I was an art major it was actually
a three dimensional art major.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
Scold, yes, well how.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Did you come from that to this?

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Now? I'm just sculpting souls and three dimensional and for
and fu. Yeah, it looks a little different, but you
know there's no play involved. But you know exactly exactly.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
So you on your website, I saw that you have
ten unseen patterns keeping people stuck in survival mode. Sure,
one that maybe we haven't chatted about. We've kind of
gone all over a lot of them, but sure one
that could help people right now to get unstuck.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
M let me think of one that we have not
that we have not talked about. I'm trying to think.
Give me just a second, was ask me another question
and I'm gonna I'm gonna come through with some good stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
I'll tell you the one that hit me because this
is and the kind of the core of what I teach,
and that is fear of overflow. You know, we have
too much. What's going to happen? I mean, really, our
biggest fear is fear of having fear of having love.
It's not fear of losing love. It's fear of having love.
So that in terms of money and success.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Fear of overflow, well, I think it goes. It kind
of goes to them you're not afraid to You're not
so fear of overflow. Most peop would say there's fear
of failure. I would say, no, it's not fear of failure.
Fear of overflow is very similar to fear of success. Yes,

(50:42):
And it goes back to safety, you know, feeling safe, receiving,
feeling safe, having, feeling safe being seen because for many people,
it's like you're living in this state of what happens
if it goes away? If I lose it, you know,

(51:05):
if I'm not enough to have it, if I'm not
deserving of it, then what happens? Because once I step
into it, how do I keep it? How do I
keep it? Now? And the fear of overflow is it's
just those patterns of where are those patterns of where

(51:29):
we're just we haven't We're afraid one to trust ourselves.
We haven't necessarily tapped into our intuitive side completely, because
if we tap into our intuitive side, that means that
we would be trusting ourselves excuse me, and then being

(51:50):
afraid of well, what would happen next? I think that's
really what it comes down to. You Once I have it,
then how do I, you know, how do I keep
from losing it? So we're so stuff on the how
do I keep from losing it that we can't really
step into the overflow. So that's that's one piece of
the fear of overflow, and then also the how the

(52:14):
how will keep us there every single time? Like, well,
how am I supposed to be an overflow? Well, how
how do I how do I sustain the overflow? Well, abundance,
overflow and abundance I kind of used them interchangeable, interchangeably
abundance is your birthright. And if you really knew that,
then you would know that you're always in a state

(52:35):
of overflow. Yeah, and you wouldn't have a reason to
fear it.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
But go ahead, Yes, what about impostures? Soonder, we only
have a few minutes left. What does that kind of
fit in there?

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Absolutely, that's it. Yeah, impostles I have you know, there's
so much around imposters.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
You know, I'm a fake.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Yeah, I'm a fake. I'm not enough, I'm not who
I say I am or I'm not. They're going to
I'm not good enough, you know, I'm not good enough
to be here. Then they're gonna they're gonna find out.
And imposture syndrome is bigger than that because it will
actually keep us from showing up period. We just will
not do anything when we are a lot of us

(53:22):
when we're experiencing imposture syndrome and the the idea of
being visible, and that's being visible, whether it's to the
world or visible to your own self.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Yeah, you know, so, Yeah, in the remaining two minutes
we have show us your book.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
And tell us, yes something about that.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Find you all that good stuff.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
Yeah, so here is my book. It's Manifestural Womenless Life.
I hope you all can see it. Yes, excuse me.
It's the proven, step by step manifestation guide to attract money,
success and abundance even if you've struggled before. I'm not
a big believer in struggling. I don't think we have
to struggle. So this is a great book. It is
my own personal experience, what I've gone through, what has

(54:09):
worked for me, and it's really more like a workbook.
So if you're interested in doing something where you can
actually see the results, grab the book. It is on Amazon.
You can also go to our website and Inspire Life
three sixty five dot com. That's three sixty five dot com,
excuse me, and you can grab the book there as
well and check out some of the other resources that

(54:31):
we have available.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah, you have also into things. You've got mind Shift
through sixty five Academy and a vision Sore and all
kinds of stuff. So definitely check out her website. And
I made them stick when I tried to find it.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I put Inspired.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
Life, that it's life if inspire your life.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Very powerful statement. Inspire life.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Yes, I want to inspire life three hundred and sixty
five days of the year, and then I'm also inspired
by other people three hundred and sixty five days of
the year. So just know that you know everyone you
are inspirers. Every single day you can choose. You are
changing someone's life and you're inspiring them to be their

(55:16):
best version every single day.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Well, you have inspired a lot of people this morning.
Thank you so much, Natalie, and keep doing what you're doing.
It's important work and I will see everybody on Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Thank you so much again.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Thank you Royce.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Welcome