January 15, 2026 • 56 mins
Air Date - 14 January 2026
Christine Ruch is a Holistic Transformation Guide who helps people with unresolved health conditions reconnect to their body’s innate wisdom and healing potential. After spending 20 years healing her own MS naturally through whole food nutrition, nervous system restoration, spiritual practice, plant medicine, deep self-inquiry, and many other Eastern and Western modalities, Christine now guides others on their own transformative healing path. Her work guides people to move beyond symptom management into lasting, multidimensional healing.
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Christine Ruch is a Holistic Transformation Guide who helps people with unresolved health conditions reconnect to their body’s innate wisdom and healing potential. After spending 20 years healing her own MS naturally through whole food nutrition, nervous system restoration, spiritual practice, plant medicine, deep self-inquiry, and many other Eastern and Western modalities, Christine now guides others on their own transformative healing path. Her work guides people to move beyond symptom management into lasting, multidimensional healing.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the Perfect Life Awakening Show hosted by Royce Morales.
Royce has been a transformational facilitator, teaching groundbreaking spiritually based
courses for more than four decades. She is the author
of three books about her teachings. Join Royce as she
takes you on a journey into how to live your
best life and find your true purpose through discovering the
(00:31):
origins of subconscious, disempowering notions and releasing them. She talks
with experts and inspiring people just like you who learned
to trust their intuitive inner wisdom, which led to life
changing shifts. Today, her guests live in empowered existence and
are helping change the world to a higher consciousness place
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based on truth and love. You deserve to awaken, to
align with and embody your true self and live a
life filled with love. Transform yourself from triggered to empowered
and create your perfect life. Here is your host, Rice Morales.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Welcome. I'm so glad everybody is here today. What a
wonderful way to start January and calling this episode your
body's wisdom. But what is that? And do we all
have it? And how can we access it? I know
I've been in touch with a lot of body wisdom
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for as long as I've been doing spiritual work, but
it's still challenging sometimes it really is to really listen
to what your body's trying to tell you and get
those messages and heal yourself and all of that. But
my guest, Christine Rooke, was diagnosed with MS twenty years ago,
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which started an immersion every healing method she could find,
and she experienced many significant improvements in her health as
she worked through each layer of healing. And there are
a lot of layers for sure, but the most profound
and previously missing link has been her journey to connect
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with her body and build a relationship with her nervous system.
By immersing herself in the intricacies of nervous system restoration
and aligning all parts of her healing path, she learned
how the nervous system really works and that it naturally
wants to heal. That's what it wants to do. So
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what started as a search for physical recovery became a
sacred journey of meeting her truest real self, her body,
psyche and soul. She found, as I'm sure many of
you have, that many illnesses are not merely conditions to
manage the deep messages to hear from your body and
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from your soul, and what is it trying to say?
What are we supposed to learn? What are we supposed
to do? She's now a multi dimensional transformation holistic guide
who helps people with unresolved health conditions. She helps people
reconnect with the innate wisdom of her body, which is
why this whole episode is about body wisdom. She's studied
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all kinds of disciplines, Western Eastern, plant medicine, deep inquiry,
all of that stuff. Now she's bridging science and soul
together so that people can have the amazing results that
she had. So welcome, Christine Rook. I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Thank here for the invitation. I'm so honored.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I appreciate it well, of course, as I always do.
I love to hear what my guests have to say
about their personal story. How did this start for you?
Tell us everything that started this, the diagnosis with MMS,
all of that stuff. Tell us your story.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Thank you. Yeah, it was twenty years ago. My kids
were really little. My daughter was three and my son
was five, and yeah, it was just like a regular
Wednesday morning in January and the kids were crawling around
in my bed in the morning and felt like a
normal day, and our dog was prancing all over us,
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and just like a normal family morning. And the kids
ran off to go with their dad to start breakfast,
and I was getting out of bed, and I leaned
over to pick up my sweatpants that were on the floor,
and I had this huge electric shock from the base
of my neck, down my back and down my legs,
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and it's a classic first symptom of MS. And then
that began the path to the diagnosis, which gratefully, thankfully
it was only three months later, because a lot of
people struggled to get a diagnosis. And I don't know
if that's the case so much today, but for sure,
twenty years ago, you could struggle with a bunch of
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big symptoms for a long time before you actually were diagnosed.
And yeah, of course, the doctors wanted me to start
on some very strong pharmaceutical interventions, and I had always
had like a poor response to pharmaceutical drugs, and so
I was really nervous at that time. Twenty years ago,
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the primary treatment options were injections, like daily injections or
weekly injections, and I don't know. I was just like
kind of nervous about that. And I was nervous about
my body's ability to withstand like the toxicity of those drugs,
even if they purported to like cause you know, you
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to long, you know, increase your life span and all
of that type of stuff. So instead I decided to
I was pretty sick, you know. Obviously by the time
I was diagnosed itself that three months, my health had
deteriorated quite a bit. I had a lot of mobility issues.
I couldn't walk very well. I was a lot of
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a bed ridden. I could only be up for a
couple of hours a day that I would just kind
of time with my children's like school schedule and all
that stuff, and I would nap when my daughter napped
and that kind of stuff. And so I just thought, well,
I'm going to do this food elimination diet. Thankfully, I
had a nature path, so I was already in the
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world of natural wellness, and so I had a nature path.
And she's one who said you should really have a
food sensitivity test, and at that time I was, frankly,
I was kind of resistant. I had a really clean
organic diet. I grew my own vegetables. I composted, I
like fermented and sprouted my own grains, and I couldn't understand.
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I thought I had no digestive problems, and I couldn't
understand like why I needed a food kind of sensitivity panel,
you know. But in that process, I was diagnosed with
Celiac disease as well. And I went on like a
six week elimination diet and that was super profound and
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super powerful. And in the six weeks of that diet
and eliminating all of these things from my lifestyle, you know,
I had a complete turnaround in my health and my
symptoms abated, and that really opened my eyes to That
was the first thing that was my first sort of
like health awakening, and it really opened my eyes to
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the power of the healing process and how something like
just providing the right environment, such as the right nutrition
for your body can activate this deep healing. But yeah,
food isn't always enough, It's not everything. It's a huge
(08:03):
foundation that shouldn't be bypassed because we all desire like
clean nutrition, but especially if you would't have an illness
or a disease state. For sure, food is important. But yeah,
from there, it was just one one journey after another
and one help awakening after another. And I went on
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to get a degree in holistic nutrition because I was
so motivated by how powerful this was and culinary arts.
I'd always been in the food and beverage industry. And
after that then I went on to found my own
restaurant in business, and I had like three food brands
and I had a restaurant in Voulder, Colorado, super successful
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and kind of like a community icon for about ten years,
and then I just it's almost like the universe intervened
and said, no, you did it. You did it all,
and there's actually more to healing that you need to learn,
and you can't learn that while you have this restaurant open,
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Like you did what you needed to do here. And
my goal with that was to connect people with like
how beautiful and natural food can be and it doesn't
matter what your health condition is, in fact even better
if you can eat everything, and for you to connect
with how how delicious and nutritious and nourishing food can be.
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And so yeah, like that was the beginning of pretty
much my own personal spiritual awakening. Dark Knight of the Soul,
all these tragic things happened, which ended up being the
most empowering part of my journey and really led me
into this nervous system work. And I didn't realize that
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I was on verge of a nervous breakdown. I didn't
even know it, but I have no idea, and until yeah,
until the universe intervened, and then my path just unfolded
to really die deeply, deeply, like immerse myself entirely in
the work of the nervous system and the soul and
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the spirit and bringing all of these elements of healing together,
uniting everything. I feel like a lot of us have
like a way that we silo our healing process where
it's like you only do this one thing and you
don't look at these other things and recognize that, you know,
everything is so interrelated, it's so synergistic, it's so interrelated,
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Like you cannot just concentrate only on one aspect of
healing and expect that to be sufficient, you know. I
think it's powerful, and a lot of people feel like
it's enough, but I don't think ultimately it's how our
body is designed to at least in the most significant
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and long term and authentic deep healing anyway, I think
that it is really more about these uniting all these
other aspects of our humanness.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, so you went from the natural food aspect and
then into working with the new nervous system and the spirit.
How did that transition happen?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah? I had closed everything, and then I went through
a lot of difficult difficulty with that, Like, you know,
you don't do that. You don't just like out of
the blue close three businesses that have been open for
a decade. You don't do that. You don't close businesses
in four days. So there was a lot of a
lot of ramifications I had from that, and a lot
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of consequences for that decision, and then that placed a
huge undue burden on my marriage. And so through all
of that and I ended up really just descending into
this very very difficult and dark place. And then I
moved to Costa Rica by myself, and I was like
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I really wanted I just knew I had this calling
to just go on this deep, healing personal journey to
try to figure out like how I could be at
the pinnacle of my career path and build something that
was so iconic and treasured in the community and feel
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like I was living my best life. I had two
beautiful children and a great marriage, and I had all
the trappings that on the surface of like the perfect life,
and like, how could this happen to me? You know?
And I really just was struggling to find meaning. And
it wasn't really about my nervous system at all, and
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it wasn't even about my health. I just was like
this deep inside, like why how did this happen to me?
And what does this mean? I wanted to make meaning
of it, and so but as luck would have it,
or maybe you would say something different, as like the
guidance from the universe would have it, they placed me
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in the path of these two amazing healers who recognized that.
One of the women said to me, you are in
the middle of a transformation, and you need support, because
transformation is very difficult, especially if you don't have the
right support, and I would be honored to provide you
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with the support that you need for this process. And
that was the first time that I really recognized I
had no idea. I was like, I'm in the middle
of a transformation, and it made perfect sense, though because
it was nothing I could muscle my way out of
it was definitely something that was happening to me for me,
and so the thought of having support for that and
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be held and guided in that process like really brought
me to my knees because no one had ever been
for me in my life like that. I had never
experienced that type of loving container of unconditional love, and like,
I'm going to get just checked out just saying that,
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And it was just like the most cathartic experience of
my life. And then part of their work, and they
had this mentorship program, and so I just really felt
called to participate in the mentorship program as part of
this support. And a lot of it is this nervous
system work and just like this whole undoing and trauma
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release and nervous system restoration and emotional regulation and all
of this stuff, and I didn't understand a lot of it,
but I immersed myself so deeply in the process and
the results were incredible, and through the mentorship process, but
of course I learned and was able to bring all
of that into my healing and align myself and be
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fully more embodied in my truth and authenticity and recognize
that these were some of the missing pieces of the
healing process for a lot of people, not just me,
and I feel like I was guided to go through
this process so that I could bring this wisdom on
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the other side now that I'm on the other side
of it, and feel so grateful for the process. Actually,
I can't believe I'm actually saying that, but feel so
grateful for the opportunity to heal this deeply, and hope
that my message and my ability to hold space for
other people in their healing journey will inspire others to
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think more deeply or more expansive about what healing really
means and what we're capable of.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, it's a long answer, but no, that's great. I
think what you just said, excuse me, is so important
we're capable of because we really doubt what we're capable of.
We're taught that got to take an aspen. If you
get a headache, you've got to go to the doctor,
if you know, We're given that message from day one, and.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We totally lost that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Ability, that innate ability to heal ourselves. And it's so
sad to me, you know, really.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It's heartbreaking. And I think what you just said is
so wise because it is this disempowerment process that happens
in the mainstream, in the mainstream medical world, and I
think it starts really young, and we are disempowered to
believe that our body to be in touch with the
innate wisdom of our body, like we are healing machines.
(16:46):
You know, it's just like we know how to heal.
I mean, God didn't make us this flawed vessel that
isn't capable of healing. It's just not It just didn't
happen like that. So it's just a matter of and
I don't even say God to be religious at all.
I mean, it's just straight up true. That doesn't matter
whether you believe in a greater being or not. The
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truth is we were created as this incredible, intelligent body
and capable of so much.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, I find that people are One of the things
that gets in the way of our self healing is
that we're kind of afraid to do that. It's like, oh,
what if I don't listen to the doctor, or what
if I can't do it, or what if I can
do it? That would be even really scary. So you know,
it's funny.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Well that's such another really wise thing to say, too,
is because I think that especially in our convenience culture
and the culture that is especially around like the nervous system,
where everybody's like also triggered and I don't feel safe
and all that stuff and everything being so convenient, we've
forgotten that actually life is full of challenges so that
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we can face our fears, and that we face our
fears so that we can build strength and resilience within
and that is part of the life process. It's like,
we can't go through life with everything being soft and
easy and without any struggles and without and right now
then we're bitter about the struggles as opposed to like
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thanking the struggles for the gifts and the lessons that
they provide us.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, we'll talk a little bit more about excuse me,
I'm losing my voice here at Yeah, I'm on the other.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Side of that too, So we're both gonna like offer
through this conversation.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Talk a little bit more about what you mean by
nervous system restoration, what what does that really entail, and
what is what is that really about?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Thank you. I am so passionate about this. I think
that this is kind of like you don't even have
to have a health condition. This is like the human
can be, especially as we look at the world today
and how disconnected we are, and we don't even know ourselves,
and we're so disconnected, and everybody's so triggered by everything
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and making decisions for themselves that are totally not in
integrity with who they authentically are, you know, And all
of that comes down to this disregulated nervous system. And
I think that by and large, as a society, we
all have a dysregulated nervous system. And it's a hard
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thing to see, actually because it's kind of like the
water we swim in, and so we don't fully recognize
that this is that we actually create a life in
service of keeping our own nervous system just regulated. All
of us do. And part of that, you know. And
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here's another thing about the nervous system is like I
think that because of some of the things that you
and I were sharing actually just a few moments ago,
people don't actually recognize that the nervous system is within
your control, you know. We think, like, you can't find
your nervous system like an organ that you can find.
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You can't see it. It's kind of ephemeral and mysterious.
And so then there's this idea that that there's no
real real connection to your nervous system and no real
opportunity for you to make a shift and a change
in it. And now certain, for certain there is like
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in some regards like you can get like somatic experiencing
and traumatic relief, and like veigest nerve resets and some
of these other things are even like meditation or breathwork.
Some of those modalities for sure will go to modulating
your nervous system, but they don't work on it takes
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a lot more work than we can actually do this
ourselves on a regular basis as an ongoing thing, as
a practice. Recognizing, I think at the highest level that
the disordered nervous system breeds illness and disease at all levels.
It doesn't even have to be at the body level.
That could be the dissatisfaction that you have in your relationships,
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in your community, in your job and your profession. It
can be your high blood pressure, it can be your weight,
your inflammation. It can impact all parts of your being.
And so you don't even have to have like a
chronic illness to be in touch with this truth. But
recognizing that a lot of it starts with this idea
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what I call emotional capacity, and we don't really teach
this in our culture at all. That we have. Our
nervous system is vast, and it senses our safety in
the world immediately, both the safety within like what's good
for you and what is and the safety outside of us,
like do I feel safe going into this party, or
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like you go into a party you're like, Wow, this
is intense, Or you go into a spa and you
get a treatment, you're like, oh, I feel so relaxed.
All that's your nervous system sensing and feeling the environment
on your behalf. And we don't necessarily recognize that. A
lot of this starts with how we process emotions and
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recognizing a number of different things within the realm of
emotional capacity and emotional regulation. And so I mean capacity
insofar as like we have the capacity to hold every
emotion that flows through us, because emotion just stands for
energy in motion, which means it comes and it goes.
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It doesn't need to get stuck inside of us. And
what happens traditionally conventionally is we feel an emotion, we
are uncomfortable with it, we're trigger by it. It bothers us,
and then we hold that within us. We ruminate on it,
we tell stories about it, and we make decisions from it.
And alongside of that, we also create an identity around
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these emotions like depression or anger or sadness or whatever
the case may be. And that's where I think a
lot of the problems begin. And we actually don't have
to do that, but there is another way of actually
processing your emotions and everything that happens to you. So
that's one aspect of it, and then another aspect of
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it is really this idea and this belief, and I
think more and more literature is coming to bear around this,
that we hold everything that ever happened to us in
our entire lives, within our body, within our body, within
our nervous system, within the cells already within our fashia
and all of that. All those are energetic disturbances because
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we don't know how to move the energy. We push
things down, We push experiences, we push down traumatic events
because we don't know how to process it and let
it go and release it. And so as a result
of that, we push everything down, and those create these
energetic disturbances in our in our bio field and those
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things also lead to illness and disease, like in like
deep anger, deeper sentment, deep feelings of fear and safety
and all of those type of things. So it's it
sounds complicated, but it starts really easy and really simply
once you connect the dots with all of these things.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yes, yeah, absolutely, So when you say that people push
all that stuff down, how do you recommend starting Because
I know the people that I work with, when I
start telling them this stuff, they're like to me and
I should be screaming and yelling at my husband. Should
I be, you know, jumping off balcony? I mean, what
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do I do with all of this stuff? Because it
is it's not just this life, it's previous thousands of
lives that we're holding.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Onto you Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Responsibly and.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
How do they release all of that?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
For sure? And that's such a powerful question because that
can scare people, right, Yes, And to be able to
feel all your emotions and allow yourself to actually like
emote is also something that's uncomfortable for us, right We're
not as a culture, we don't we don't have a
(25:39):
place that we encourage that. But I think it is
like whether you jump like, let's say you're experiencing some
anger or some rage. It's not it's okay to be
really mad and let it pass, you know, express all
of it. It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with you.
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In fact, you're better than the average person who doesn't
allow themselves that opportunity. But having a safe place to
do it is I think really important, you know, because
like let's say your partner and you're in filled with rage,
they're not able necessarily to hold the space for you
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to be filled with rage for them, because then they're
going to take that and make it a personal thing
and create another level of drama. Right. And so having
a participation with another healer where everything is super safe
and sacred, and then you can become more more familiar
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with how you emote more, you feel like more actually
empowered to emote in a safe place. And actually, as
you do this over and over again, you realize that
it passes really quickly. Your angers over your sadness is passed.
It actually feels so much better on the other side
of it, right, and you feel cleansed of it. You
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feel like released from these in these emotional states of being,
And so I think like having a safe place or
a safe container or in order. And there's a lot
of witnessing that happens here too. I think that's a
really important aspect of it. Is like, witnessing is so powerful,
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you know, to be fully witnessed for everything that you
are bringing to the table and honored for that witnessed
and honored and loved without judgment. It sounds so hokey,
but it's actually the foundation of our humanity to be
able to witness each other. And how powerful is it
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to be witnessed without the other person having their own
sense of like fear, judgment anxieties, like they don't absorb
your energetic expression and take it on as their own
and have that means something about them, right and so,
and it doesn't have to if you have the right
if you have the right container. And that's what I do,
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is create this container for this whole thing to unfold
and uh, and the process itself is incredibly healing, and
it's the doorway to the healing.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I think, Yeah, it's interesting as you're talking. My husband
and I excuse me, both understand the importance of getting
stuff out. So we've made an agreement in our marriage
that if one of us has to express an emotion,
the other person, just as you say, witnesses it. But
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we've also taken it a little step further because we
understand that it has nothing to do with the other
person what you're going through. So we've committed to expressing
those emotions in a responsible way. So, in other words,
if he doesn't take the trash out, I'm not going
to say, oh, I can't stand it when you don't
take the trash out, You're such a you're lazy, or
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whatever I'll say. When you don't take the trash out.
It pushes a button in me about, you know, looking
at myself and how irresponsible I believe I am. So
you're just showing me a mirror of the issue I
have with myself. And sometimes, of course it's really difficult
to do that because we don't want to admit that
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we're irresponsible, you know, and that we'd rather sit around
watching TV than take the trash out. But that stating
it in that way allows him to not feel attacked
and it allows him to take a look at himself simultaneously.
So it's a really powerful little kind of you know,
hand in hand process that we do with each other.
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It's great.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I love that so much because that's entirely the truth.
And I think one of the other aspects of this
it's really important while we're talking about these nuances, it's
personal self responsibility. Yes, it's like we create everything. We
are the creator of everything. Everything in our reality is
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a result of what we have created. And we don't
have this idea in our culture of taking personal responsibility
for everything that you create. And it's really hard, but
it is a huge practice of like personal empowerment, you know,
because if you create everything and you are responsible for
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everything you create, it's it's powerful and it's really it's
really empowering to recognize that. But at the beginning, people
don't like to do that. They want to put the
responsibility on somebody else, and that's a whole nother it's
a whole other layer of the healing process, right, because
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how much healing do you have when you begin to
take personal responsibility for everything that you create? And just
like you said, you'd rather sit on the couch than
take out the trash, and then you have to own
that and say, I'm really sorry I didn't take out
the trash like I just wanted to finish watching the show,
and then I got tired and then I forgot and
I fell asleep on the couch and like, ah, you know,
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and like you take personal responsibility for that. And that's
another really powerful thing, Like we do this too much
in society, where we put the responsibility on somebody else
that you triggered me, instead of recognizing that we create
our own safety and nobody has to trigger us at all,
Like we are the ones that take that on ourselves.
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Nobody else can trigger you if you don't want that.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That is right, Yeah, And that's the core of what
I teach. And that's the hardest place for people to
get to. I've had some students be with me for
decades and they still struggle with that because it's so
hard to say, oh, you're showing me a mirror of myself.
Ooh yeah, yeah, I mean for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
That's like how amazing and powerful our mind is.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Really.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, Like I've been really humbled over for a long time,
and how powerful our brain is to keep us safe
from the things that it doesn't want to experience, whether
that's fear or shame or these uncomfortable emotional states that
cause us like you know, this internal sense of like,
(32:34):
I don't know, we're not used to holding that and
we don't recognize that we are not our emotions and
we have the capacity to hold the sensations without identifying
with them.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah. So before we take our break, which will happen
in a few minutes, I want to ask you a
question about what do you find when you work with people.
What do you find most often to be the root
issue that are going on for people? I mean, yes,
it's all about survival and all of that, but there
are there specific root things that you discover the origins
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of why this is going on when you work with people.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, I mean I really do think that this is
where a lot of like traumatic events from your past,
your childhood or even you and I would say ancestral
trauma that you bring into this life. And it's a
lot of shadow work. A lot of times people are
completely I mean, that's why we call it shadow work, right,
(33:37):
You're completely unaware of what this is. And yeah, I
think it's a lot of that because we build these
identity traits based upon these traumatic events that happened to
us as a coping mechanism, and we create a life
(33:57):
often in service of like a soul wound. You know,
sometimes we come here with a soul wound that we
are meant to heal in this lifetime, and this gets
into something you know, you and I could probably get
deep into the spiritual side of this, but I really
believe that that's that's part of it. Is like a
(34:20):
lot of us carry these disturbances in our energy field
that that then create illness synteses in our body.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, well, after the break, let let's get into that
spiritual science.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I think that's all important and I'd love that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Well we'll be right back, We'll be
right back.
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Speaker 3 (37:14):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I am talking with Christine Rooke and we're talking about
bodies wisdom and yes we can heal ourselves. And we
just started to talk about the spiritual aspect of all
of this. And I find that from what I've experienced
and what I teach, is that everything that goes on
with our body in some way is a spiritual lesson
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for us. It's either waking us up to something, or
reminding us of something we did in the past, or
trying to get us toward our purpose that we're in
denial of, or you know, all of that stuff. So
give me some thoughts about all of that with your work.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah, I think that this is like why the alignment
process is so important, right and and for people to recognize,
like so many times we don't live we live in
service of other people, and we wear these masks, and
we live by obligation and duty, and we put our
(38:19):
own needs and our own happiness and our own ambitions last,
or we discount them, or we don't believe them. There's
just I mean, every person is a little bit different,
but I think that at the core of it, it's
it's a very shades of that exact thing. For everybody
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this specific thing is different, but at the end of
the day, that's what it is. I mean, I saw
it for myself for sure, and it was it's a
bitter pill to swallow. But actually when you when you
actually see it, it's hard to not it's hard to
unsee it. And and then hopefully you start to take
a line to to become more embodied or more aligned
(39:03):
with what your true nature is, and what your soul's
purpose is, and what your guidance from your spirit, what
would like for you to have happened for you in
this lifetime. Yeah. Yeah, I find that.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
A lot of what I've gotten in touch with through
the years of doing a lot of inner work is
that it always seems to boil down to something that
I brought with me that I'm here to clean up. So,
you know, maybe I broke somebody's leg and some lifetime
and now I have leg problems, Or you know, maybe
(39:39):
I didn't fulfill my purpose in some lifetime and now
I'm forced to in some way by getting sick or whatever.
So do you find that happens also with people that
you work with?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, And I think one of the one of the
things that might be interesting is like to talk about
the actual process, because is what I think is important
is to create an environment that actually facilitates this awareness
coming up naturally within somebody. It's like, I don't need
(40:15):
to go in like I might be able to see
what these energetic disturbances are, or I may be able
to perceive like certain aspects of their being that is
facilitating their dysregulation of their nervous system, which is in
turn facilitating their illness or disease. But that doesn't matter.
(40:37):
It's a matter of whether or not they actually see
it and are in touch with it. And a lot
of times you can't go from this thinking part of
things into this knowing part of things because the knowing
is in your body and the thinking is in your mind.
And so a lot of times it's also this idea
(40:58):
that the nervous system wants to heal and it wants
to release everything, and your body wants to show you
your soul would love for you to like fully like
step into it, and the shadows want to be healed,
and all of these things want to be want to
be seen and healed, right, And so how do we
create the right container for that to actually happen? Organically
(41:21):
and naturally. And that's why I feel like this process
where you have this witnessing and the safety and this gentle,
gentle thing. A lot of times our healing work is
a lot of like I'm the coach, you're the participant.
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I have this goal for you, this is where you're going.
We have a linenear trajectory, this much time, and then
you create all of these like timelines and expectations that
actually isn't suited to the actual way that we heal
and the way that we almost like I liken it
to like a flower. I'm like budding in the spring.
(42:05):
It takes its own time and its own pace and
doesn't but at the same time as the other flowers,
and sometimes it's shy, and sometimes it has set backs
because of the weather and these other external environmental reasons.
And I think that when we hold our nervous system
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like this and it starts to feel entirely safe, then
your body will actually tell you and the healing opportunity
will arise and you can't not see it because it's there,
and then it's about meeting that experience and meeting that
(42:49):
healing opportunity. And then it's almost like I believe I've
seen this relationship get created with the with whom I'm
working with in their body as they start to trust
what comes up and then they meet it, and then
they learn to become empowered by that and not afraid
of that process. Then it's almost like a positive feedback
(43:12):
loop where the body then starts to emote more and
release more. Like your nervous system wants to release all
of these energetic disturbances. It doesn't want to carry this,
and so things will naturally full unfold as you create
space and safety within and you start to trust your
body and trust the process, and trust me and the
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container of love and safety and compassion and acceptance, and
just trust that your body is going to do all
of the work that you want it to do. And
it doesn't have my timeline or my expectation. It doesn't
have to be me seeing these things. You will see
them in your own time, because that's just how the
(43:57):
healing process works, and that's just that's just part of
the the beauty of the process. So, yeah, so I
don't have to force anything. Actually, no forcing is allowed,
only only allowing's goad.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, I find that a lot of times people you know,
when I teach my courses, I do give out a
lot of information and when people try to get it intellectually,
it's like, okay, now you can recite it back to me,
but that's not what it's about. What does it feel
like in here? And when you meditate and when you
process this, what comes up? And what is that natural
(44:33):
organic thing that's happening inside of you? Because otherwise it's
all just mental and it does nothing. So yeah, it's
all just mental, and it's almost like this place beyond words, right,
and like recognizing that your system, your your nervous system
in all of it that it's holding isn't necessarily like
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oh heure is when you know, my felt like my
mother abandoned me and now here is this other thing?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
It doesn't it doesn't categorize it. That's us mentally categorizing
these things. And we believe that that's what's stored in
our body, is like these destinations of these challenges or whatever,
and that's not that's not it at all. And so
so just like recognizing that you don't have to name it,
you don't have to remember it, you don't have to
(45:21):
go looking for it, and you don't have to categorize it.
You don't have to analyze it, You don't have to
do any of that, but rather just hold space for
your own unfolding and learn, hold space for your own
nervous system to process whatever it's going to release, and
it may not be. You don't have to remember. You
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don't have to go looking for any of these things
or try to remember or figure it out. Your nervous
system is far more intelligent than your mind.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Actually interesting, Yeah, Yeah, I read on something that you
sent the you suggest asking some kind of self reflection questions.
We only have a few more minutes, so why don't
you give our audience some pondering or some reflective questions
(46:14):
that they can look at in their life to maybe
help kind of support all of this.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah. I think that there's a couple of things you
can reflect on, and then there's some practice that you
can actually begin to do and that might be helpful
as well. But one is I loved it, just like
from the highest level, from the meta level, is to
try to get people to reflect on whether or not
they feel empowered and what their own belief structure is
(46:42):
around their own ability to heal from whatever it is
that is like plaguing them and whether they believe that
they are disempowered and they want to learn to take
their power back and they believe that it is within
their capacity. And then my secondary question along those lines
is like, in what way has your life been co
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opted by this illness or this disease? And what did
you dream for yourself before? What was the vitality that
you wanted to bring forth in the world. What did
you hope for that you are not able to achieve
now because of these things, And that's still alive within you,
and that's still fully something that you could step into,
(47:26):
and you have to want it for yourself and you
have to believe that it's available. It's the first Those
are the first couple questions. And then also maybe to
start looking at like what are the things that trigger
you and what are the ways in which you feel
like you what is your relationship with your own emotional
landscape and how triggered are you by things? How like
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start to just kind of pay attention to the things
that your emotional landscape and start to recognize that it
is in your power to begin to craft a new
relationship with your nervous system and trust me and you,
but trust actually your body that this is how we're
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supposed to heal. And it starts with regulating your nervous system.
And then I guess the last thing is like what
do you do? What is a practice? And I like
to just invite people to when they experience something that
causes them discomfort, any emotional state that causes them to
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feel triggered, let's just use that word. I call it
like a trigger trap. And when that happens to you,
just begin really slowly, really gently, with full of love
and compassion for yourself to just sit with that emotional
state for a really short amount of time, for like
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thirty seconds, without trying to fix it, tell a story
about it, ruminate about it, make a decision about it,
judge it, fall into despair about that. That's a secondary
sub emotion that we create on top of an initial emotion,
and we actually don't need to do that at all, Like,
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just practice sitting with this emotional state that causes you
discomfort and trust that it will pass. It does not
need to be something that identifies you. You do not
create an identity around these emotional states that you can
actually practice letting the emotion come in and letting the
emotion go out and during that time, like thirty seconds,
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you just have a mantra, there's nothing to fix, and
say that over and over and start small like that
and just trust the process.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah. I think that's so important because in our world nowadays,
you know, people are immediately told, oh, you have that sadness,
you're depressed, here's some drugs.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, instead of yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Feeling sad and I'm going to feel sad until i
don't feel sad and I'm.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Going to let it down, you know, and then yeah, yeah,
you are not a sad person. You're just feeling sad
in that moment, and that's okay, you're supposed to feel
at all.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
And then I find that when people start taking the drugs,
they think this is the only way, and then the
drug doesn't work, so they try a different drug and
it's like it's just an endless loop. It really is, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
And I also wonder too, you know, with what you said,
it's like, yes, that's true, and also how much does
it dampen your the range of emotions that you actually feel, right,
because like, are we supposed to feel happy and optimistic
all the time? Is that truly reality in this world.
You know, it's like, what about our relationship with things
(50:50):
that bring us these challenges and using those challenges as
an opportunity to recognize whether or not we're in truth
and alignment rather than taking a pill to mask that.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
You know, yeah, definitely. And I think back to what
I was saying before, Getting the spiritual lesson from it
is so important, you know what important? What is this
disease trying to teach me? And what am I supposed
to be expressing from it? Who am I supposed to
be assisting with it? What am I supposed to be
(51:23):
cleaning up from it? All of those things are such
important questions to ask, they really are.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yeah, and then people should feel excited and empowered actually
that they can see this, they can take action, they
can fix it, and just the very act of doing that,
taking personal responsibility for these things, brings you so much
strength and so much resilience and so much personal power.
And that is healing. Yeah, you know, that is healing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yeah, even if the disease doesn't go away, you know,
even if you can't get past that disease, it's still
healing something. I think that's important.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
For sure, and it's also changing your relationship with what
you feel like how many people feel like disempowered by
their disease state, and then that creates these other sub
emotional states that reinforce your initial feeling of despair and
injustice and all of that stuff. But what if that's
not true? You know, what if that can be shifted.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
To Well, one thing that you said a few minutes
ago that I wanted to grab hold of is use
the word believing, And I just want to say that
your story and what you experienced and what you accomplished,
I think is going to allow people to really believe
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that healing is possible. So you know, I'm so glad
that you shared them and I'm so glad that you
experienced all that to really be an example of, hey,
I healed ms. You can do all kinds of things.
And I think that's just a wonderful, wonderful gift that
you've given the world.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Oh, thank you so much for seeing that. I really
appreciate it. And yeah, I hope in some way that
my story inspires and not like I think one of
the things that's really important is this isn't just my
story like that, it's unique to me. I mean, this
is available to everybody, and that's one part of the
reason why I do this work is to distill a
(53:32):
lot of these a lot of these features down to everybody.
It's not like I have a secret sauce. I just
I just believe in myself and I believe in the
bodies and they capacity to heal. And but my body
isn't any different from anybody else's body. We all have this,
you know, we all have this ability.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yes, we do, we do.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
We didn't we didn't tell.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
People what you offer and how they can reach you,
and we have like a minute or so give us
your yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Go onto my website christinerook dot com. You can explore
my work with people. I provide mentorships and for nine months,
six months or three months. So I provide mentorships and
I would love to talk. You can also schedule a
call with me. I don't charge for that or anything.
(54:25):
I love to just explore people's opportunities with them. And
then if you want to read a little bit more
about me and about my philosophy around the healing path,
I have a substack and that's linked on my website.
You can also listen to a bunch of my other podcasts,
which are also on my website, but you can go
to my substack and you can view my writing, and
(54:47):
I write all about all the ways that we heal,
whether it's plant medicine, nervous system restoration, spiritual alignment, or
really great recipes because I'm still a chef at heart,
and I so include recipes for our optimal nutrition and healing. Great.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Thank you so much. And in case you're just listening
to this, the way her name is spelled is r
u c H even though it's pronounced rook, so if
you're looking for her website, it's Christine Rook rucch dot com.
Thank you so much, Christine, keep up the good you
and with an honor to be here. I really appreciated it.
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Thank you, and let's let's heal the world.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Were those nervous systems and get those emotions out and
take responsibility. And thank you so.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Much, thank you, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
I will see everybody next Wednesday and have an amazing
guest next week who you will just go nuts over.
She's awesome. She's going to be talking about distressing near
death experiences, which i've talked about before on my show,
but this is going to be really special, so thank
you all.
Welcome to the Perfect Life Awakening Show hosted by Royce Morales.
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Speaker 2 (01:13):
Welcome. I'm so glad everybody is here today. What a
wonderful way to start January and calling this episode your
body's wisdom. But what is that? And do we all
have it? And how can we access it? I know
I've been in touch with a lot of body wisdom
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for as long as I've been doing spiritual work, but
it's still challenging sometimes it really is to really listen
to what your body's trying to tell you and get
those messages and heal yourself and all of that. But
my guest, Christine Rooke, was diagnosed with MS twenty years ago,
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which started an immersion every healing method she could find,
and she experienced many significant improvements in her health as
she worked through each layer of healing. And there are
a lot of layers for sure, but the most profound
and previously missing link has been her journey to connect
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with her body and build a relationship with her nervous system.
By immersing herself in the intricacies of nervous system restoration
and aligning all parts of her healing path, she learned
how the nervous system really works and that it naturally
wants to heal. That's what it wants to do. So
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what started as a search for physical recovery became a
sacred journey of meeting her truest real self, her body,
psyche and soul. She found, as I'm sure many of
you have, that many illnesses are not merely conditions to
manage the deep messages to hear from your body and
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from your soul, and what is it trying to say?
What are we supposed to learn? What are we supposed
to do? She's now a multi dimensional transformation holistic guide
who helps people with unresolved health conditions. She helps people
reconnect with the innate wisdom of her body, which is
why this whole episode is about body wisdom. She's studied
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all kinds of disciplines, Western Eastern, plant medicine, deep inquiry,
all of that stuff. Now she's bridging science and soul
together so that people can have the amazing results that
she had. So welcome, Christine Rook. I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Thank here for the invitation. I'm so honored.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I appreciate it well, of course, as I always do.
I love to hear what my guests have to say
about their personal story. How did this start for you?
Tell us everything that started this, the diagnosis with MMS,
all of that stuff. Tell us your story.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Thank you. Yeah, it was twenty years ago. My kids
were really little. My daughter was three and my son
was five, and yeah, it was just like a regular
Wednesday morning in January and the kids were crawling around
in my bed in the morning and felt like a
normal day, and our dog was prancing all over us,
(04:28):
and just like a normal family morning. And the kids
ran off to go with their dad to start breakfast,
and I was getting out of bed, and I leaned
over to pick up my sweatpants that were on the floor,
and I had this huge electric shock from the base
of my neck, down my back and down my legs,
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and it's a classic first symptom of MS. And then
that began the path to the diagnosis, which gratefully, thankfully
it was only three months later, because a lot of
people struggled to get a diagnosis. And I don't know
if that's the case so much today, but for sure,
twenty years ago, you could struggle with a bunch of
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big symptoms for a long time before you actually were diagnosed.
And yeah, of course, the doctors wanted me to start
on some very strong pharmaceutical interventions, and I had always
had like a poor response to pharmaceutical drugs, and so
I was really nervous at that time. Twenty years ago,
(05:33):
the primary treatment options were injections, like daily injections or
weekly injections, and I don't know. I was just like
kind of nervous about that. And I was nervous about
my body's ability to withstand like the toxicity of those drugs,
even if they purported to like cause you know, you
(05:53):
to long, you know, increase your life span and all
of that type of stuff. So instead I decided to
I was pretty sick, you know. Obviously by the time
I was diagnosed itself that three months, my health had
deteriorated quite a bit. I had a lot of mobility issues.
I couldn't walk very well. I was a lot of
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a bed ridden. I could only be up for a
couple of hours a day that I would just kind
of time with my children's like school schedule and all
that stuff, and I would nap when my daughter napped
and that kind of stuff. And so I just thought, well,
I'm going to do this food elimination diet. Thankfully, I
had a nature path, so I was already in the
(06:36):
world of natural wellness, and so I had a nature path.
And she's one who said you should really have a
food sensitivity test, and at that time I was, frankly,
I was kind of resistant. I had a really clean
organic diet. I grew my own vegetables. I composted, I
like fermented and sprouted my own grains, and I couldn't understand.
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I thought I had no digestive problems, and I couldn't
understand like why I needed a food kind of sensitivity panel,
you know. But in that process, I was diagnosed with
Celiac disease as well. And I went on like a
six week elimination diet and that was super profound and
(07:22):
super powerful. And in the six weeks of that diet
and eliminating all of these things from my lifestyle, you know,
I had a complete turnaround in my health and my
symptoms abated, and that really opened my eyes to That
was the first thing that was my first sort of
like health awakening, and it really opened my eyes to
(07:42):
the power of the healing process and how something like
just providing the right environment, such as the right nutrition
for your body can activate this deep healing. But yeah,
food isn't always enough, It's not everything. It's a huge
(08:03):
foundation that shouldn't be bypassed because we all desire like
clean nutrition, but especially if you would't have an illness
or a disease state. For sure, food is important. But yeah,
from there, it was just one one journey after another
and one help awakening after another. And I went on
(08:28):
to get a degree in holistic nutrition because I was
so motivated by how powerful this was and culinary arts.
I'd always been in the food and beverage industry. And
after that then I went on to found my own
restaurant in business, and I had like three food brands
and I had a restaurant in Voulder, Colorado, super successful
(08:50):
and kind of like a community icon for about ten years,
and then I just it's almost like the universe intervened
and said, no, you did it. You did it all,
and there's actually more to healing that you need to learn,
and you can't learn that while you have this restaurant open,
(09:14):
Like you did what you needed to do here. And
my goal with that was to connect people with like
how beautiful and natural food can be and it doesn't
matter what your health condition is, in fact even better
if you can eat everything, and for you to connect
with how how delicious and nutritious and nourishing food can be.
(09:37):
And so yeah, like that was the beginning of pretty
much my own personal spiritual awakening. Dark Knight of the Soul,
all these tragic things happened, which ended up being the
most empowering part of my journey and really led me
into this nervous system work. And I didn't realize that
(09:59):
I was on verge of a nervous breakdown. I didn't
even know it, but I have no idea, and until yeah,
until the universe intervened, and then my path just unfolded
to really die deeply, deeply, like immerse myself entirely in
the work of the nervous system and the soul and
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the spirit and bringing all of these elements of healing together,
uniting everything. I feel like a lot of us have
like a way that we silo our healing process where
it's like you only do this one thing and you
don't look at these other things and recognize that, you know,
everything is so interrelated, it's so synergistic, it's so interrelated,
(10:43):
Like you cannot just concentrate only on one aspect of
healing and expect that to be sufficient, you know. I
think it's powerful, and a lot of people feel like
it's enough, but I don't think ultimately it's how our
body is designed to at least in the most significant
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and long term and authentic deep healing anyway, I think
that it is really more about these uniting all these
other aspects of our humanness.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, so you went from the natural food aspect and
then into working with the new nervous system and the spirit.
How did that transition happen?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah? I had closed everything, and then I went through
a lot of difficult difficulty with that, Like, you know,
you don't do that. You don't just like out of
the blue close three businesses that have been open for
a decade. You don't do that. You don't close businesses
in four days. So there was a lot of a
lot of ramifications I had from that, and a lot
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of consequences for that decision, and then that placed a
huge undue burden on my marriage. And so through all
of that and I ended up really just descending into
this very very difficult and dark place. And then I
moved to Costa Rica by myself, and I was like
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I really wanted I just knew I had this calling
to just go on this deep, healing personal journey to
try to figure out like how I could be at
the pinnacle of my career path and build something that
was so iconic and treasured in the community and feel
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like I was living my best life. I had two
beautiful children and a great marriage, and I had all
the trappings that on the surface of like the perfect life,
and like, how could this happen to me? You know?
And I really just was struggling to find meaning. And
it wasn't really about my nervous system at all, and
(12:49):
it wasn't even about my health. I just was like
this deep inside, like why how did this happen to me?
And what does this mean? I wanted to make meaning
of it, and so but as luck would have it,
or maybe you would say something different, as like the
guidance from the universe would have it, they placed me
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in the path of these two amazing healers who recognized that.
One of the women said to me, you are in
the middle of a transformation, and you need support, because
transformation is very difficult, especially if you don't have the
right support, and I would be honored to provide you
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with the support that you need for this process. And
that was the first time that I really recognized I
had no idea. I was like, I'm in the middle
of a transformation, and it made perfect sense, though because
it was nothing I could muscle my way out of
it was definitely something that was happening to me for me,
and so the thought of having support for that and
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be held and guided in that process like really brought
me to my knees because no one had ever been
for me in my life like that. I had never
experienced that type of loving container of unconditional love, and like,
I'm going to get just checked out just saying that,
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And it was just like the most cathartic experience of
my life. And then part of their work, and they
had this mentorship program, and so I just really felt
called to participate in the mentorship program as part of
this support. And a lot of it is this nervous
system work and just like this whole undoing and trauma
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release and nervous system restoration and emotional regulation and all
of this stuff, and I didn't understand a lot of it,
but I immersed myself so deeply in the process and
the results were incredible, and through the mentorship process, but
of course I learned and was able to bring all
of that into my healing and align myself and be
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fully more embodied in my truth and authenticity and recognize
that these were some of the missing pieces of the
healing process for a lot of people, not just me,
and I feel like I was guided to go through
this process so that I could bring this wisdom on
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the other side now that I'm on the other side
of it, and feel so grateful for the process. Actually,
I can't believe I'm actually saying that, but feel so
grateful for the opportunity to heal this deeply, and hope
that my message and my ability to hold space for
other people in their healing journey will inspire others to
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think more deeply or more expansive about what healing really
means and what we're capable of.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, it's a long answer, but no, that's great. I
think what you just said, excuse me, is so important
we're capable of because we really doubt what we're capable of.
We're taught that got to take an aspen. If you
get a headache, you've got to go to the doctor,
if you know, We're given that message from day one, and.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We totally lost that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Ability, that innate ability to heal ourselves. And it's so
sad to me, you know, really.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It's heartbreaking. And I think what you just said is
so wise because it is this disempowerment process that happens
in the mainstream, in the mainstream medical world, and I
think it starts really young, and we are disempowered to
believe that our body to be in touch with the
innate wisdom of our body, like we are healing machines.
(16:46):
You know, it's just like we know how to heal.
I mean, God didn't make us this flawed vessel that
isn't capable of healing. It's just not It just didn't
happen like that. So it's just a matter of and
I don't even say God to be religious at all.
I mean, it's just straight up true. That doesn't matter
whether you believe in a greater being or not. The
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truth is we were created as this incredible, intelligent body
and capable of so much.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, I find that people are One of the things
that gets in the way of our self healing is
that we're kind of afraid to do that. It's like, oh,
what if I don't listen to the doctor, or what
if I can't do it, or what if I can
do it? That would be even really scary. So you know,
it's funny.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Well that's such another really wise thing to say, too,
is because I think that especially in our convenience culture
and the culture that is especially around like the nervous system,
where everybody's like also triggered and I don't feel safe
and all that stuff and everything being so convenient, we've
forgotten that actually life is full of challenges so that
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we can face our fears, and that we face our
fears so that we can build strength and resilience within
and that is part of the life process. It's like,
we can't go through life with everything being soft and
easy and without any struggles and without and right now
then we're bitter about the struggles as opposed to like
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thanking the struggles for the gifts and the lessons that
they provide us.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, we'll talk a little bit more about excuse me,
I'm losing my voice here at Yeah, I'm on the other.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Side of that too, So we're both gonna like offer
through this conversation.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Talk a little bit more about what you mean by
nervous system restoration, what what does that really entail, and
what is what is that really about?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Thank you. I am so passionate about this. I think
that this is kind of like you don't even have
to have a health condition. This is like the human
can be, especially as we look at the world today
and how disconnected we are, and we don't even know ourselves,
and we're so disconnected, and everybody's so triggered by everything
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and making decisions for themselves that are totally not in
integrity with who they authentically are, you know, And all
of that comes down to this disregulated nervous system. And
I think that by and large, as a society, we
all have a dysregulated nervous system. And it's a hard
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thing to see, actually because it's kind of like the
water we swim in, and so we don't fully recognize
that this is that we actually create a life in
service of keeping our own nervous system just regulated. All
of us do. And part of that, you know. And
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here's another thing about the nervous system is like I
think that because of some of the things that you
and I were sharing actually just a few moments ago,
people don't actually recognize that the nervous system is within
your control, you know. We think, like, you can't find
your nervous system like an organ that you can find.
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You can't see it. It's kind of ephemeral and mysterious.
And so then there's this idea that that there's no
real real connection to your nervous system and no real
opportunity for you to make a shift and a change
in it. And now certain, for certain there is like
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in some regards like you can get like somatic experiencing
and traumatic relief, and like veigest nerve resets and some
of these other things are even like meditation or breathwork.
Some of those modalities for sure will go to modulating
your nervous system, but they don't work on it takes
(20:57):
a lot more work than we can actually do this
ourselves on a regular basis as an ongoing thing, as
a practice. Recognizing, I think at the highest level that
the disordered nervous system breeds illness and disease at all levels.
It doesn't even have to be at the body level.
That could be the dissatisfaction that you have in your relationships,
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in your community, in your job and your profession. It
can be your high blood pressure, it can be your weight,
your inflammation. It can impact all parts of your being.
And so you don't even have to have like a
chronic illness to be in touch with this truth. But
recognizing that a lot of it starts with this idea
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what I call emotional capacity, and we don't really teach
this in our culture at all. That we have. Our
nervous system is vast, and it senses our safety in
the world immediately, both the safety within like what's good
for you and what is and the safety outside of us,
like do I feel safe going into this party, or
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like you go into a party you're like, Wow, this
is intense, Or you go into a spa and you
get a treatment, you're like, oh, I feel so relaxed.
All that's your nervous system sensing and feeling the environment
on your behalf. And we don't necessarily recognize that. A
lot of this starts with how we process emotions and
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recognizing a number of different things within the realm of
emotional capacity and emotional regulation. And so I mean capacity
insofar as like we have the capacity to hold every
emotion that flows through us, because emotion just stands for
energy in motion, which means it comes and it goes.
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It doesn't need to get stuck inside of us. And
what happens traditionally conventionally is we feel an emotion, we
are uncomfortable with it, we're trigger by it. It bothers us,
and then we hold that within us. We ruminate on it,
we tell stories about it, and we make decisions from it.
And alongside of that, we also create an identity around
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these emotions like depression or anger or sadness or whatever
the case may be. And that's where I think a
lot of the problems begin. And we actually don't have
to do that, but there is another way of actually
processing your emotions and everything that happens to you. So
that's one aspect of it, and then another aspect of
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it is really this idea and this belief, and I
think more and more literature is coming to bear around this,
that we hold everything that ever happened to us in
our entire lives, within our body, within our body, within
our nervous system, within the cells already within our fashia
and all of that. All those are energetic disturbances because
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we don't know how to move the energy. We push
things down, We push experiences, we push down traumatic events
because we don't know how to process it and let
it go and release it. And so as a result
of that, we push everything down, and those create these
energetic disturbances in our in our bio field and those
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things also lead to illness and disease, like in like
deep anger, deeper sentment, deep feelings of fear and safety
and all of those type of things. So it's it
sounds complicated, but it starts really easy and really simply
once you connect the dots with all of these things.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yes, yeah, absolutely, So when you say that people push
all that stuff down, how do you recommend starting Because
I know the people that I work with, when I
start telling them this stuff, they're like to me and
I should be screaming and yelling at my husband. Should
I be, you know, jumping off balcony? I mean, what
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do I do with all of this stuff? Because it
is it's not just this life, it's previous thousands of
lives that we're holding.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Onto you Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Responsibly and.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
How do they release all of that?
Speaker 3 (25:19):
For sure? And that's such a powerful question because that
can scare people, right, Yes, And to be able to
feel all your emotions and allow yourself to actually like
emote is also something that's uncomfortable for us, right We're
not as a culture, we don't we don't have a
(25:39):
place that we encourage that. But I think it is
like whether you jump like, let's say you're experiencing some
anger or some rage. It's not it's okay to be
really mad and let it pass, you know, express all
of it. It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with you.
(26:00):
In fact, you're better than the average person who doesn't
allow themselves that opportunity. But having a safe place to
do it is I think really important, you know, because
like let's say your partner and you're in filled with rage,
they're not able necessarily to hold the space for you
(26:21):
to be filled with rage for them, because then they're
going to take that and make it a personal thing
and create another level of drama. Right. And so having
a participation with another healer where everything is super safe
and sacred, and then you can become more more familiar
(26:42):
with how you emote more, you feel like more actually
empowered to emote in a safe place. And actually, as
you do this over and over again, you realize that
it passes really quickly. Your angers over your sadness is passed.
It actually feels so much better on the other side
of it, right, and you feel cleansed of it. You
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feel like released from these in these emotional states of being,
And so I think like having a safe place or
a safe container or in order. And there's a lot
of witnessing that happens here too. I think that's a
really important aspect of it. Is like, witnessing is so powerful,
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you know, to be fully witnessed for everything that you
are bringing to the table and honored for that witnessed
and honored and loved without judgment. It sounds so hokey,
but it's actually the foundation of our humanity to be
able to witness each other. And how powerful is it
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to be witnessed without the other person having their own
sense of like fear, judgment anxieties, like they don't absorb
your energetic expression and take it on as their own
and have that means something about them, right and so,
and it doesn't have to if you have the right
if you have the right container. And that's what I do,
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is create this container for this whole thing to unfold
and uh, and the process itself is incredibly healing, and
it's the doorway to the healing.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I think, Yeah, it's interesting as you're talking. My husband
and I excuse me, both understand the importance of getting
stuff out. So we've made an agreement in our marriage
that if one of us has to express an emotion,
the other person, just as you say, witnesses it. But
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we've also taken it a little step further because we
understand that it has nothing to do with the other
person what you're going through. So we've committed to expressing
those emotions in a responsible way. So, in other words,
if he doesn't take the trash out, I'm not going
to say, oh, I can't stand it when you don't
take the trash out, You're such a you're lazy, or
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whatever I'll say. When you don't take the trash out.
It pushes a button in me about, you know, looking
at myself and how irresponsible I believe I am. So
you're just showing me a mirror of the issue I
have with myself. And sometimes, of course it's really difficult
to do that because we don't want to admit that
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we're irresponsible, you know, and that we'd rather sit around
watching TV than take the trash out. But that stating
it in that way allows him to not feel attacked
and it allows him to take a look at himself simultaneously.
So it's a really powerful little kind of you know,
hand in hand process that we do with each other.
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It's great.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I love that so much because that's entirely the truth.
And I think one of the other aspects of this
it's really important while we're talking about these nuances, it's
personal self responsibility. Yes, it's like we create everything. We
are the creator of everything. Everything in our reality is
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a result of what we have created. And we don't
have this idea in our culture of taking personal responsibility
for everything that you create. And it's really hard, but
it is a huge practice of like personal empowerment, you know,
because if you create everything and you are responsible for
(30:34):
everything you create, it's it's powerful and it's really it's
really empowering to recognize that. But at the beginning, people
don't like to do that. They want to put the
responsibility on somebody else, and that's a whole nother it's
a whole other layer of the healing process, right, because
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how much healing do you have when you begin to
take personal responsibility for everything that you create? And just
like you said, you'd rather sit on the couch than
take out the trash, and then you have to own
that and say, I'm really sorry I didn't take out
the trash like I just wanted to finish watching the show,
and then I got tired and then I forgot and
I fell asleep on the couch and like, ah, you know,
(31:16):
and like you take personal responsibility for that. And that's
another really powerful thing, Like we do this too much
in society, where we put the responsibility on somebody else
that you triggered me, instead of recognizing that we create
our own safety and nobody has to trigger us at all,
Like we are the ones that take that on ourselves.
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Nobody else can trigger you if you don't want that.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
That is right, Yeah, And that's the core of what
I teach. And that's the hardest place for people to
get to. I've had some students be with me for
decades and they still struggle with that because it's so
hard to say, oh, you're showing me a mirror of myself.
Ooh yeah, yeah, I mean for sure.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
That's like how amazing and powerful our mind is.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Really.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah, Like I've been really humbled over for a long time,
and how powerful our brain is to keep us safe
from the things that it doesn't want to experience, whether
that's fear or shame or these uncomfortable emotional states that
cause us like you know, this internal sense of like,
(32:34):
I don't know, we're not used to holding that and
we don't recognize that we are not our emotions and
we have the capacity to hold the sensations without identifying
with them.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah. So before we take our break, which will happen
in a few minutes, I want to ask you a
question about what do you find when you work with people.
What do you find most often to be the root
issue that are going on for people? I mean, yes,
it's all about survival and all of that, but there
are there specific root things that you discover the origins
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of why this is going on when you work with people.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, I mean I really do think that this is
where a lot of like traumatic events from your past,
your childhood or even you and I would say ancestral
trauma that you bring into this life. And it's a
lot of shadow work. A lot of times people are
completely I mean, that's why we call it shadow work, right,
(33:37):
You're completely unaware of what this is. And yeah, I
think it's a lot of that because we build these
identity traits based upon these traumatic events that happened to
us as a coping mechanism, and we create a life
(33:57):
often in service of like a soul wound. You know,
sometimes we come here with a soul wound that we
are meant to heal in this lifetime, and this gets
into something you know, you and I could probably get
deep into the spiritual side of this, but I really
believe that that's that's part of it. Is like a
(34:20):
lot of us carry these disturbances in our energy field
that that then create illness synteses in our body.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, well, after the break, let let's get into that
spiritual science.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I think that's all important and I'd love that.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Well we'll be right back, We'll be
right back.
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Speaker 3 (37:14):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I am talking with Christine Rooke and we're talking about
bodies wisdom and yes we can heal ourselves. And we
just started to talk about the spiritual aspect of all
of this. And I find that from what I've experienced
and what I teach, is that everything that goes on
with our body in some way is a spiritual lesson
(37:38):
for us. It's either waking us up to something, or
reminding us of something we did in the past, or
trying to get us toward our purpose that we're in
denial of, or you know, all of that stuff. So
give me some thoughts about all of that with your work.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah, I think that this is like why the alignment
process is so important, right and and for people to recognize,
like so many times we don't live we live in
service of other people, and we wear these masks, and
we live by obligation and duty, and we put our
(38:19):
own needs and our own happiness and our own ambitions last,
or we discount them, or we don't believe them. There's
just I mean, every person is a little bit different,
but I think that at the core of it, it's
it's a very shades of that exact thing. For everybody
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this specific thing is different, but at the end of
the day, that's what it is. I mean, I saw
it for myself for sure, and it was it's a
bitter pill to swallow. But actually when you when you
actually see it, it's hard to not it's hard to
unsee it. And and then hopefully you start to take
a line to to become more embodied or more aligned
(39:03):
with what your true nature is, and what your soul's
purpose is, and what your guidance from your spirit, what
would like for you to have happened for you in
this lifetime. Yeah. Yeah, I find that.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
A lot of what I've gotten in touch with through
the years of doing a lot of inner work is
that it always seems to boil down to something that
I brought with me that I'm here to clean up. So,
you know, maybe I broke somebody's leg and some lifetime
and now I have leg problems, Or you know, maybe
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I didn't fulfill my purpose in some lifetime and now
I'm forced to in some way by getting sick or whatever.
So do you find that happens also with people that
you work with?
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, And I think one of the one of the
things that might be interesting is like to talk about
the actual process, because is what I think is important
is to create an environment that actually facilitates this awareness
coming up naturally within somebody. It's like, I don't need
(40:15):
to go in like I might be able to see
what these energetic disturbances are, or I may be able
to perceive like certain aspects of their being that is
facilitating their dysregulation of their nervous system, which is in
turn facilitating their illness or disease. But that doesn't matter.
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It's a matter of whether or not they actually see
it and are in touch with it. And a lot
of times you can't go from this thinking part of
things into this knowing part of things because the knowing
is in your body and the thinking is in your mind.
And so a lot of times it's also this idea
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that the nervous system wants to heal and it wants
to release everything, and your body wants to show you
your soul would love for you to like fully like
step into it, and the shadows want to be healed,
and all of these things want to be want to
be seen and healed, right, And so how do we
create the right container for that to actually happen? Organically
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and naturally. And that's why I feel like this process
where you have this witnessing and the safety and this gentle,
gentle thing. A lot of times our healing work is
a lot of like I'm the coach, you're the participant.
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I have this goal for you, this is where you're going.
We have a linenear trajectory, this much time, and then
you create all of these like timelines and expectations that
actually isn't suited to the actual way that we heal
and the way that we almost like I liken it
to like a flower. I'm like budding in the spring.
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It takes its own time and its own pace and
doesn't but at the same time as the other flowers,
and sometimes it's shy, and sometimes it has set backs
because of the weather and these other external environmental reasons.
And I think that when we hold our nervous system
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like this and it starts to feel entirely safe, then
your body will actually tell you and the healing opportunity
will arise and you can't not see it because it's there,
and then it's about meeting that experience and meeting that
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healing opportunity. And then it's almost like I believe I've
seen this relationship get created with the with whom I'm
working with in their body as they start to trust
what comes up and then they meet it, and then
they learn to become empowered by that and not afraid
of that process. Then it's almost like a positive feedback
(43:12):
loop where the body then starts to emote more and
release more. Like your nervous system wants to release all
of these energetic disturbances. It doesn't want to carry this,
and so things will naturally full unfold as you create
space and safety within and you start to trust your
body and trust the process, and trust me and the
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container of love and safety and compassion and acceptance, and
just trust that your body is going to do all
of the work that you want it to do. And
it doesn't have my timeline or my expectation. It doesn't
have to be me seeing these things. You will see
them in your own time, because that's just how the
(43:57):
healing process works, and that's just that's just part of
the the beauty of the process. So, yeah, so I
don't have to force anything. Actually, no forcing is allowed,
only only allowing's goad.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, I find that a lot of times people you know,
when I teach my courses, I do give out a
lot of information and when people try to get it intellectually,
it's like, okay, now you can recite it back to me,
but that's not what it's about. What does it feel
like in here? And when you meditate and when you
process this, what comes up? And what is that natural
(44:33):
organic thing that's happening inside of you? Because otherwise it's
all just mental and it does nothing. So yeah, it's
all just mental, and it's almost like this place beyond words, right,
and like recognizing that your system, your your nervous system
in all of it that it's holding isn't necessarily like
(44:53):
oh heure is when you know, my felt like my
mother abandoned me and now here is this other thing?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
It doesn't it doesn't categorize it. That's us mentally categorizing
these things. And we believe that that's what's stored in
our body, is like these destinations of these challenges or whatever,
and that's not that's not it at all. And so
so just like recognizing that you don't have to name it,
you don't have to remember it, you don't have to
(45:21):
go looking for it, and you don't have to categorize it.
You don't have to analyze it, You don't have to
do any of that, but rather just hold space for
your own unfolding and learn, hold space for your own
nervous system to process whatever it's going to release, and
it may not be. You don't have to remember. You
(45:44):
don't have to go looking for any of these things
or try to remember or figure it out. Your nervous
system is far more intelligent than your mind.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Actually interesting, Yeah, Yeah, I read on something that you
sent the you suggest asking some kind of self reflection questions.
We only have a few more minutes, so why don't
you give our audience some pondering or some reflective questions
(46:14):
that they can look at in their life to maybe
help kind of support all of this.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah. I think that there's a couple of things you
can reflect on, and then there's some practice that you
can actually begin to do and that might be helpful
as well. But one is I loved it, just like
from the highest level, from the meta level, is to
try to get people to reflect on whether or not
they feel empowered and what their own belief structure is
(46:42):
around their own ability to heal from whatever it is
that is like plaguing them and whether they believe that
they are disempowered and they want to learn to take
their power back and they believe that it is within
their capacity. And then my secondary question along those lines
is like, in what way has your life been co
(47:04):
opted by this illness or this disease? And what did
you dream for yourself before? What was the vitality that
you wanted to bring forth in the world. What did
you hope for that you are not able to achieve
now because of these things, And that's still alive within you,
and that's still fully something that you could step into,
(47:26):
and you have to want it for yourself and you
have to believe that it's available. It's the first Those
are the first couple questions. And then also maybe to
start looking at like what are the things that trigger
you and what are the ways in which you feel
like you what is your relationship with your own emotional
landscape and how triggered are you by things? How like
(47:51):
start to just kind of pay attention to the things
that your emotional landscape and start to recognize that it
is in your power to begin to craft a new
relationship with your nervous system and trust me and you,
but trust actually your body that this is how we're
(48:11):
supposed to heal. And it starts with regulating your nervous system.
And then I guess the last thing is like what
do you do? What is a practice? And I like
to just invite people to when they experience something that
causes them discomfort, any emotional state that causes them to
(48:32):
feel triggered, let's just use that word. I call it
like a trigger trap. And when that happens to you,
just begin really slowly, really gently, with full of love
and compassion for yourself to just sit with that emotional
state for a really short amount of time, for like
(48:53):
thirty seconds, without trying to fix it, tell a story
about it, ruminate about it, make a decision about it,
judge it, fall into despair about that. That's a secondary
sub emotion that we create on top of an initial emotion,
and we actually don't need to do that at all, Like,
(49:14):
just practice sitting with this emotional state that causes you
discomfort and trust that it will pass. It does not
need to be something that identifies you. You do not
create an identity around these emotional states that you can
actually practice letting the emotion come in and letting the
emotion go out and during that time, like thirty seconds,
(49:37):
you just have a mantra, there's nothing to fix, and
say that over and over and start small like that
and just trust the process.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah. I think that's so important because in our world nowadays,
you know, people are immediately told, oh, you have that sadness,
you're depressed, here's some drugs.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, instead of yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Feeling sad and I'm going to feel sad until i
don't feel sad and I'm.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Going to let it down, you know, and then yeah, yeah,
you are not a sad person. You're just feeling sad
in that moment, and that's okay, you're supposed to feel
at all.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
And then I find that when people start taking the drugs,
they think this is the only way, and then the
drug doesn't work, so they try a different drug and
it's like it's just an endless loop. It really is, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
And I also wonder too, you know, with what you said,
it's like, yes, that's true, and also how much does
it dampen your the range of emotions that you actually feel, right,
because like, are we supposed to feel happy and optimistic
all the time? Is that truly reality in this world.
You know, it's like, what about our relationship with things
(50:50):
that bring us these challenges and using those challenges as
an opportunity to recognize whether or not we're in truth
and alignment rather than taking a pill to mask that.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
You know, yeah, definitely. And I think back to what
I was saying before, Getting the spiritual lesson from it
is so important, you know what important? What is this
disease trying to teach me? And what am I supposed
to be expressing from it? Who am I supposed to
be assisting with it? What am I supposed to be
(51:23):
cleaning up from it? All of those things are such
important questions to ask, they really are.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
Yeah, and then people should feel excited and empowered actually
that they can see this, they can take action, they
can fix it, and just the very act of doing that,
taking personal responsibility for these things, brings you so much
strength and so much resilience and so much personal power.
And that is healing. Yeah, you know, that is healing. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yeah, even if the disease doesn't go away, you know,
even if you can't get past that disease, it's still
healing something. I think that's important.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
For sure, and it's also changing your relationship with what
you feel like how many people feel like disempowered by
their disease state, and then that creates these other sub
emotional states that reinforce your initial feeling of despair and
injustice and all of that stuff. But what if that's
not true? You know, what if that can be shifted.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
To Well, one thing that you said a few minutes
ago that I wanted to grab hold of is use
the word believing, And I just want to say that
your story and what you experienced and what you accomplished,
I think is going to allow people to really believe
(52:50):
that healing is possible. So you know, I'm so glad
that you shared them and I'm so glad that you
experienced all that to really be an example of, hey,
I healed ms. You can do all kinds of things.
And I think that's just a wonderful, wonderful gift that
you've given the world.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Oh, thank you so much for seeing that. I really
appreciate it. And yeah, I hope in some way that
my story inspires and not like I think one of
the things that's really important is this isn't just my
story like that, it's unique to me. I mean, this
is available to everybody, and that's one part of the
reason why I do this work is to distill a
(53:32):
lot of these a lot of these features down to everybody.
It's not like I have a secret sauce. I just
I just believe in myself and I believe in the
bodies and they capacity to heal. And but my body
isn't any different from anybody else's body. We all have this,
you know, we all have this ability.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yes, we do, we do.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
We didn't we didn't tell.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
People what you offer and how they can reach you,
and we have like a minute or so give us
your yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Go onto my website christinerook dot com. You can explore
my work with people. I provide mentorships and for nine months,
six months or three months. So I provide mentorships and
I would love to talk. You can also schedule a
call with me. I don't charge for that or anything.
(54:25):
I love to just explore people's opportunities with them. And
then if you want to read a little bit more
about me and about my philosophy around the healing path,
I have a substack and that's linked on my website.
You can also listen to a bunch of my other podcasts,
which are also on my website, but you can go
to my substack and you can view my writing, and
(54:47):
I write all about all the ways that we heal,
whether it's plant medicine, nervous system restoration, spiritual alignment, or
really great recipes because I'm still a chef at heart,
and I so include recipes for our optimal nutrition and healing. Great.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Thank you so much. And in case you're just listening
to this, the way her name is spelled is r
u c H even though it's pronounced rook, so if
you're looking for her website, it's Christine Rook rucch dot com.
Thank you so much, Christine, keep up the good you
and with an honor to be here. I really appreciated it.
(55:27):
Thank you, and let's let's heal the world.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Were those nervous systems and get those emotions out and
take responsibility. And thank you so.
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Much, thank you, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (55:42):
I will see everybody next Wednesday and have an amazing
guest next week who you will just go nuts over.
She's awesome. She's going to be talking about distressing near
death experiences, which i've talked about before on my show,
but this is going to be really special, so thank
you all.
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