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Greetings, dear friends subscribers to my channel, to Alexei's channel.
It is the twenty sixth of January when we are
recording this stream live. Alexei is live joining our studio.
Good evening, Good evening, Alexander. There are a lot of
events happening and we want to discuss try to address
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all of them during the stream. And it's peculiar to
see how the Ukrainian authorities are really really trying to
take things under control and present themselves in a better light.
Will be discussing that. We'll be discussing their attempts to
control geopolitics the front. I'm following the whole week. There
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was tay of Us, then all these speeches in Ukraine.
Then Tekanowska, the leader of opposition in Belarus, is meeting
with Zelensky. So yeah, we will be talking about different
things and we'll touch upon that and the recent changes
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this stream. Okay, So today's Paul is in relation to
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the Ukrainian Ambassador to Canada statement Natalka Smoke that it
is better to live on these conditions under this Russian
or Ukraine than to leave under Russian occupation. And the
options to answer is one, we love you, we are
with you, Natalca. That's a great statement. Second, Lukashenka had
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a better speech with the allusion towards recent illness commentary.
Third is better without occupation, better without all these hardships.
And the fourth option it's better for her to see
and comment on our current situation and we have life
from Canada. So okay, le see what is your point
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of view on all that? And I'm preface that with
the fact that they keep bringing our people down reuters
sometimes air piece videos when people are making barbecues in
the yards in the cities. Then they show some power
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generators being used here and there, that Ukrainians are crafty
and they will survive. Meantime, we have hundreds of old
Granias freezing in their apartments to death. I like say,
what would you say about all that? Well, Alexander, this
is the question I think from the sort of whether
it's better to be rich and healthy or poor and sick.
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Of course, it's better to be rich and healthy. But
as we bringing Ukrainians down, I don't take all these
elements as an attempt to really bring some effect on Ukrainians. No,
I think it's people who are commenting, who are shooting
these videos, who are airing them. They do not fully
understand what's happening in Ukraine, and they cannot really partake
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in the chaotic life of Ukrainians. At this point, our
signals from Ukraine are also chaotic for a simple reason
that what is happening is not really tightly fitting into
the legend that is being promagay throughout the planet. What
the legend says that we are killing Russians and droves
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all the attackers, all the invaders. We are destroying them,
and they in return blow up and destroy our civil infrastructure, hospitals,
birthing words and the like. So where do you install
where do you insert those dying grainies in this narrative, right,
the media basically offers two options. Right, we either are
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fighting and we are successful and Russia is never going
to win, or we are actually suffering. And these are
two different positions where either fighting heroes or we are
the victims. And that's why the signal is rather chaotic,
and it comes sometimes from one side, sometimes from another,
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and it keeps confusing everybody on the West too, in
regards to what is happening in Ukraine. It is on us,
It is upon Ukraine to produce a quality signal about ourselves,
about our lives. Whether we don't care about Russian attacks
and we keep dancing on a small disco parties and
do barbecues and our relatives are out in the front
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line killing all those invaders, or we need to change
narrative and start acknowledging that. Listen, life is difficult in Ukraine.
People are dying, and then you're running a risk of
being asked by your allies why are we still fighting?
Then if you guys, if it's so horrible, let's find
ways to negotiate and to end this war. And until
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we change this narrative, the suggestion would be, well, yeah,
you guys are fighters. You seem to be okay with that,
then yeah, we'll support you to a degree again and
you continue go fighting. This is what I want to
pay attention of our audience to. How narrow is the
field of decisions we are confronted with. I want to
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say that on the first page of the Book of Strategy,
it says that strategy is the art of either increasing
your field of options, or at least not decreasing it,
keeping it stable. But if you really drive your country
in such a fashion that your strategic options are continuously
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narrowing down, something is wrong. In a current situation, we
can't even offer anything decent to our country propaganda. We
are in a situation that people with brains have anticipated
that two to three years ago, and in these three years,
our administration failed to prepare for that moment. So when
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I'm suggesting, just make a decision, what are you broadcasting?
Are you heroes or are you victims? Because if you
are a hybrid, then also define where are you heroes
and where are you victims? Alex say, what would you
support here one side of this myth or the other? Well, Alexander,
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the correct statement of this question, I would say, how
much are we a subject or an object of what's happening?
In my school of thought, we're having a module now
that talks about how to become a subject, how to
become a sovereign, how to become an author, and all
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these three terms they have their own definitions. I want
our people to make sure that the words we have
in our constitution that we are sovereign as people, that
they would be matching the reality. Because ninety nine point
nine nine nine percent of Ukrainians are completely disconnected from
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managing the destiny of the country, right, alex say, I
want to interject here that personally they are disconnected. They
have do not have options to even manage their own lives. Yeah, correct, Alexander.
They not only the country influenced. Yeah, that's even higher.
They literally their options are limited. They either have to
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pay some bribes to make sure they're not drafted, or
they continue running circles around the drafting commission making sure
that they don't get caught in a street that they
don't go out too much, and of course there is
another option to go and fight. But this is the
tragedy of a hero. When in Greek tragedies a hero
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was pre defined destiny, a hero was followed by rock.
He's the one who fights against the rock, and the
rock always wins. Their hero's destiny is simple. You're being
praised first and then you're being carried dead. And I
want Ukrainians to be neither a victim nor hero. I
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want them to be subject, and I want them to
be capable of defining their own destiny and deciding where
in which world how they want to live there. This
is my preference, not pushing it upon anybody. All right, fellows,
please continue voting. I see you guys are suggesting your
answers in a chat under the stream. Yeah, some of
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the answers are with humor. I understand your commentary are
also funny at some point. But let's get back to
our topics today. So we are forgetting that all of these,
all of these people in the pictures, those who are fighting,
those who are dying, those who are celebrating their people, right, Alexander,
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those grannies who are dying in the apartments on the
seventh or tenth floor. They many of them can't even
go downstairs or go go back up if they go
down because the electricity is out. Elevators don't work right.
The tragedies sometimes seep into the picture on the TV,
like when the crumbled building is being cleaned up and
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there's a young mom with two year olds who are
trying to climb on the But it's a difficult picture.
It's a difficult situation in the country. It's difficult decision,
Alex say, I sometimes start to feel that Moscow spies
that Zelenski's government is talking about, they're sitting in the
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actually right next to whoever is talking about them, right right.
Zelenski today came out with a statement saying that I
had a selector meeting today with the regions and summing
it up, we now need to urgently create additional generating
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capabilities for our cities, especially for Kiev, and then he
makes a statement, I also sent an order to defend
Khrkav right before we started the stream today. Just a
couple hours ago, there were drones and other attacks on
Khdakov and electricity went out and people are reporting that
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they have no electricity, no school, of course, no, nothing
they can do in their home. Krivo also got some
energy stations hit and there are more blackouts there. So
it appears that Zelenski, with all his huffing and puffing
on the TV, failed to protect those townships that he
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aspired to. And it almost appears that somebody is actively
sabotaging that or he's really not doesn't have enough power. Well, Alexander,
do you think Hahrkov may be too small of a
target for him. Maybe he needs to send an order
about the spring that it needs to start happening soon. Right,
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that's about his caliber. Make a spring come sooner. It
all reminds me of an anecdote when a big cargo
ship is traversing an ocean and captain having his first
cup of coffee on the bridge and he's getting a
report from somebody saying, Captain, the sun is rising, rings
a sip of coffee and says, okay, let it rise.
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So yeah, Why, speaking of Lensky and Hrkov, why is
he not capable of actually defending cities, because all he
seems to be doing is just making statements. I will
make orders, oh, Alexi, we can make quarters here too. Right, right,
you can be stating which cities should be safe, and
I will be stating where do we need warm weather? Right,
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I'll support you. You want to send a warm spell
to Odessa and the spell that another cold front that's
coming there on the weekend. Exactly right. We don't have chancellery,
we don't have media to publish our orders, but it's
important to make a statement. I think we're approaching what
Zelenski is doing. Right. This is just horrible what happened today.
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So today he was gathering his military. He's drone operators,
headers and the most resultative there's like Achilles and English COO,
some other people are getting awards from the president. It
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was almost a presentation of that new system that is
being implemented. When you do. They also announced right in
the school they're going away from numbers one to three, four,
five to letters F, D, CBA, so. And while they
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are being awarded all that regalia and stuff. Meantime over Ki,
if we have Russian drones flying over the city without
any interruptions, without any anything attacking them as if they
were back at home in Moscow, people start asking questions,
whereas our air defense systems that air raid lasted in
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different impulses, but over five hours. So perhaps Alexander, everybody
were just being on that ceremony, nobody was available to
shoot them down. Alex say, that is horrible, right from
the military point, why didn't we shoot them down? Maybe
with something missile like? Well, No, from the military standpoint, Alexander,
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you need to use specific tools against drones. You don't
use missiles. You don't use your heavy armaments against them,
because he is there to reveal those spots. You need
to use the interceptor drones or some other machinery, some
other guns to shoot these downs. You don't use your
precious patriots and others. But what surprised me were the
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numbers that were published, and let me scroll them up
here on the phone. Two hundred and forty thousand killed
Russian troops, eight hundred and twenty destroyed targets. These are
the results of the drone forces of Ukraine just for
twenty twenty five. And the Minister already is setting a
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new threshold saying that they're aiming to destroy fifty thousand
invaders per month. So this is bothersome, right, alex Sai,
we can you use this numbers these numbers to jump from.
Let's comment on this story first about the numbers and
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how true they are, but I'm really curious about how
horrible on the backdrop of all this crash of the
system of management of the country, how Zelinski is trying
to portray himself and his propaganda is trying to prop
him up. Well, it'll be very specific conversation. But since
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we starting first of all that system of grading upgrading
the effectivity of Ukrainian troops he points and Ukrainian and
Russian that is being used. It's very close to fakari,
the word combination. So they profoundly using this in relation
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to the system where that needs to be used on
the battlefront. Most of the UAVs that today were getting
rewards were supposed to be out there on the front.
They're supposed to be helping the infantry to hold at
the front line. The operators of drones and fpvs who
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are in the infantry, nobody is recording any videos about them,
nobody is calling them to reward them anything. In the
presidential quarters, while the average time of their life is
usually calculated in hours, maybe in a day if they're lucky.
Because our enemies are really seeking them out because drones
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are the most effective tools that are stopping them from advancing,
and of course they are a supportive function to the infantry.
But this is a super important link chain. In Konstantinovka.
There was an interesting situation recently. The enemy created a
false tank attack and while everybody, including the drone operators
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and infantry and artillery were trying to repel them, smaller
groups of Russian infantry covertly proceeded to infiltrate Konstantinovka. And
what it means is that very likely it'll be a
big hurdle to kick them out now, and they were
not stopped because all the uvs were heroically fighting the tanks.
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And that metric system with eight hundred and twenty thousand
defeated targets destroyed targets. They shoot a lot of videos
how one tank get hit by several drones and each
of them actually is measured as one successful attack, even
though it's the same tank that is being destroyed. And
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one of the Americans who has had some good experience
fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, he recently was commenting one
of the volunteers who is fighting on the front. He's
saying that you guys are idiots. You are now focused
on earning the points and you're losing the depth of
control of the front. What did Russians do? They figured
it out. They're not too smart. They figured it on
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the fourth year. But actually, if you paid attention to
your studying materials in the first year of military school,
one of the main targets is to isolate the battlefield.
So on the third year roughly of this war, they
figured out that they need to start isolating the front segments.
And now they're getting more advanced with this. Now they're
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successful in isolating up to twenty twenty five kilometers depth
of the front that they're isolating, they certain threat sometimes
up to forty kilometers. That means that a lot of
supply routes, a lot of support options are paralyzed in
Ukraine side because forty kilometers and that's the figure is
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actually a core depth. That's a significant blockade. And our attacks,
our numbers and metrics that we're reporting, they do not
produce an effective result because the vector that we're exercising
here is wrong. We need to be addressing the enemy
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disrupting our logistics and isolating the front as they like.
Instead we're busy counting the attacks and similar situation. I'll
bring a Bachmut again here, because when we started losing
people there, we were building the third core that we
could use in depth in different parts of the front.
We decided instead to throw it to defend Bachmut when
we declared that Bachmut is fourth and we eventually were
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losing one for one there against Russians. Obviously the third
core would not be enough to retake Crimea, but they
would have gotten pretty far, someplace near Militoppel perhaps, and
that would have created a very different logic on the front,
and it would create a different political basis for negotiations. However,
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our politics from Kiev did not allow that to happen.
They chose political target to defend Bachmut. Completely political decision,
not a military decision. It's worthless militarily at this point.
At a certain point it becomes worthless. So all these
points and effectivity that are now being tracked is because
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there is a lot of stealing happening around the drone industry.
People are making millions in dollars in euros for every
government trench to purchase another whole bulk of drones. Somebody
is getting his million and people on the front already,
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the commanders on the front, that the American fellow and
the others, they are already saying that the vector of
effort with the drone systems UAV systems is strategically wrong
and will pay a dear price for that, because yeah,
you can report that you destroyed thousands of targets and
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shake residential hand, and in reality they are destroying a
lot of targets. That's true, don't get me wrong. But
you need to pick the right targets. What does Russian
side do? They first of all target our pilots of
the drones, that's their prime target, and then they destroy
the logistics in battle. For those who don't know, there
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are targets that are important and dangerous. On the first
class of fire are and effectivity. You're being taught that
there are two types of targets important, mission important and dangerous,
and you primarily attack the important targets. You can attack
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the dangerous targets when they truly become dangerous to you,
when their attack is imminent or they're already engaging. And
this is the basic strategy for professional for a military
professional who remembers how the school was taught and not
what is happening now with all the presidential influence. It
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sounds similar as if we would be explaining to the
doctors that you need to wash your hands before the surgery.
This is basic knowledge, but even that basic knowledge is
being violated. The most effective type of troops that we have,
the most effective unmandarial vehicle detachments are being used and
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specialists are being used wrongly with an emphasis on the
wrong targets. And to illustrate your words here, Alexi, today
there were publications about the girl who she's the operator
of the drone. She's somewhere pretty far from the front.
She's sitting in front of computer with the joysticks, and
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she's telling stories how she enjoys doing her work, and
she likes destroying those Russian invaders right right when they
run away from her and she gets the drone to
blow him apart. And yeah, so for these videos that
they are trying to catch, trying to record in order
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to get those scores, therefore faiting more important targets, and
these videos are also doing something negative to our society.
That's a different topic, but another thing. And meantime, Russians
are trying to be more proper about how they fight
this war. They are slowly taking the skies over the front,
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they are slowly taking the logistics routes, and you end
up maybe having all infantry still alive in your military.
But if they did not have food, if they have
no AMMO, if there is nothing to fight with, at best,
they will surrender or run away by food. And all
these scary generals and presidential vice commanders, they failed so
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far together and to determine the difference of which targets
are priority, and they've failed to fight against the inertia
of their own propaganda. That's why I keep hearing stories
that they're all scary heroes. I don't think so. The
scary hero would be in Ukraine is the one who
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has balls to come out and say we are losing
because we're making wrong decisions strictly, and he can resign
after this statement. But all the others, yeah, you can
have operative heroic heroism there, but strategically they are not heroes.
And the problem is that we're losing this war, yes,
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by millimeters, by centimeters, but we're slowly on that vector
and it will continue unless we figure out how to
change it. We also have a ton of trash happening
on the front. For example, you have a brigade that's
holding above fifteen kilometers. They have their own UAV detachments
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working within their own forces. Then some other forces come
and intersect and pay visit to that territory, to that
part of the front for different reasons, sent by President,
special reinforcements, whatever neighbors. In the proper military, you have
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one thing. So regardless of what he's doing, he may
be cleaning potatoes for food, he may be fighting in
the trench, he may be taking a dump in the toilet,
he always has one but one commander. In our situation here,
we have a ton of people, very often visiting the front.
They're using very often the same frequencies that already fighting
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troops are using, creating additional mess and very often using
these UAVs against the same targets that are already being
tracked or already being worked or not important, and there
are more important targets. And the battalion commander in this
group cannot do anything about these visitors. At best, they
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are somewhat friendly. Very often they're not even communicating. And
then we get these rewards and presidential ceremonies. But if
you do the real audit, if you really analyze the
coefficient of utility of usefulness how we're using these drones,
you will discover very interesting numbers that we're nowhere near
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as it is being propped up Alex say, remember he
did talk about destroying the Soviet system and maybe switching
to some Western style KPIs. Okay, that's an old conversational exender,
but look at what Russians are doing. They're taking the
better things from Soviet system and they're incorporating them in
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the new style. Unlike Russia Ukraine in this regard, seems
to be taking the worse from the Soviet and using
it somehow, and we are losing the classic military foundational knowledge.
Our commanders somehow we're learning seems like they're learning how
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to communicate, how to relate with your neighbors from the movies,
like seriously, let me sell some of the machine guns
because we're out of m o Who's where can we
do it right? It's interesting how we keep saying that
we are running between two lights of being either a
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victim or a hero. I'd rather ask being in the
field of just being professional, that instead of this KPIs
and scores, we would focus on the real classical knowledge
and important targets and don't go around hunting for things
that just give you a KPI score but do nothing
to change the way this war is fought. And there
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are a lot of problems that apparently all these heroes
are failing to address. However heroic they are, they don't
have enough brass to come up and address that out
in the public or in front of the president. And
if they do say something like that, they probably won't
survive on their post. With all my due respect to
Michael the speaker for President Alexei, speaking of that today,
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I think I got enlightenment. You know that threads community
some sort of Twitter alternative. Sterniumka, a new advisor to
Fiodorff throws out the post what can you advise me?
Because he is an advisor, right, so he's asking his subscribers,
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fellows who are talking to him. He's asking people what
to advise so he can send this advice to Filodov.
To me, that appears like circus. Where's professionalism? Listen? Some
appointments are controversial, right. The fact that Flash was appointed
to lead the UEV the ue defense u E troops.
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That's great, he is a great at specialist we have.
But Sterniumka appointment, that's probably another stone in the direction
of we need people or whatever. The presidential group needs
people who will allow them to steal money over the
uivs and who will be talking about heroism and heroic fight.
I talked about it before. Minister should not be making statements,
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especially when the negotiations are happening, that we, for example,
how he stated, need to be targeting fifty thousand kas
Russians on the front every month. This does not help
the negotiation process. You just do it differently, don't do
it like this. Oh yeah, I say, this is like
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our president coming out saying that people are important, cultures
are important, and then says, now Russia is Orcs and
we won't give Dunbas or anything else to Russia. Meantime,
Russia says done Bass as the key element for negotiations,
saying that, okay, make sure you withdraw from Dunbas and
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then it's a good start for us to negotiate. All right, Alexander,
let's talk about the politics now. Politics is a tool
that is capable to in the ideal world, should be
capable to define what the problem is and show the
ways this problem can be solved. The way is presented
here in Ukraine is that Russia wants to capture the
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whole Ukraine, which is false. It works as a propaganda, right,
but the main thing about propaganda is not to fall
for your own propaganda. Second, what is the solution that
is being offered by a president? And according to Costenka,
the Secretary of Committee of National Security National Safety, the
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only way to resolve this problem is for everybody to
mobilize and to go to the front. This is one
of those cases when they believed in their own propaganda
and sadly politicians of that caliber falling for their own props.
So perhaps they should be picking different people for these
positions because it's difficult to expect smart decisions from those
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who we have. Now there, what is the real problem?
The problem, if you want to formulate it right now,
would probably sound like this. Are Ukrainians ready to make
their main cities, the million plus size cities unlivable in
exchange for continuous fight for Danyansk District and the main
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push in that presidential administration is saying, let's just a
little more and they'll be spring. Okay, that will be spring.
What if Russia will start destroying sewage systems then, and
then you don't have these big cities again, they're not
functioning without sewer systems, right, And I'm not suggesting the
right answer here. Maybe it is worth it, right, but
one needs to put the real question. But what are
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we hearing from Abu Dhabi? Anything but the don bus
don bus is not even a discussion. And the funny
way how it comes out. They already come out and
say that, yeah, we had dinner, we agreed how we
will cooperate after the war. But they're still failing to
put the question maybe a referendum in front of people
and saying, hey, it does it make sense for us
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to lose the livability of these cities that we still
have versus the remnants of Dunbas District? Right, why should
we even ask people, Alexei, They are only on paper
the source of power, right the whole country. Alexander doesn't
know the opinion of people. People are there, they are
the source of power technically, and somebody needs to formulate
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the question correctly in front of them, which in my view,
would be in order for us to maintain ownership of
some part of Dunbas. The following things are becoming a
risk for the rest of Ukraine. And that's how you
gather the opinion. Why do you think nobody is doing
it well? Because the answer is obvious, Well, the answer
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can be different, right, I would not even say it
is obvious, because you know, even if the president is
somewhat popular, we don't have official data. Don't you think
that the group of presidential advisors are keeping to a
six million hostage? No, I don't think so, Alexeay, you
know why because today's Zlensky published this photo and some
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other pictures from the meeting of the delegation that came
back from Abu Dhabi. And I'm not pretending to have
some extra sensory abilities. We can talk about yu Letta,
Moshenka and recent things there later. But look at this picture.
They all had enough food, right, They look well stuffed.
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They had good meetings. Apparently they're ready to meet more.
And Zelensky is telling them something so dire that they're
all sitting with very sad faces. What, Alexander, I cannot
see the picture. They're not happy yeah, No, they're completely sad. Kislitsa,
which is Ukrainian for sour, completely matches. The face matches
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the meeting. Buddanav turned on his intel face or you
cannot see through anything. Just Stonewold bes is looking with
horrified eyes at Zelenski, and you can read somewhere behind
the eyes the thought of, holy crap, what am I
doing here? I wanted to live a life. What's going on?
Arahaim is not happy and the others, and Zelenski is
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supposedly telling them something that likely goes completely against this visit,
against their results. So I don't know if they are
holding hostages. I think Zelenski is holding them hostages. Well, Alexander,
why do they allow him to hold themselves hostage? He's
just one, and they're on this picture. There are way
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more of them than him. I'll go back again to
that wonderful Soviet Times movie Seventeen Moments of Spring, where
a furor is making a speech in a bunker in
the last year of war, and the speech is basically
that it is completely unthinkable that the union between the
Bolsheviks and the capitalists in Britain and United States. And
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I think our main advantage is being capable to destroy
this unity, this union, and we will destroy them, will
rip them apart, and then we'll find new allies and
will destroy those Bolsheviks separately. And the camera shows the
faces of generals listening to him, who understand that depth
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of thought is completely incongruente to reality. They already know
where it goes, and they're solving on their faces the
delta between the statement or the order from the leader
to the real situation on the negotiations, and you can
see the same in the faces of our delegation apparently too.
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And day by day this task becomes more and more
difficult because in the dreams of our president, we are
already taking Vladivostak, while reality is very very different. Therefore,
the situation itself, when political vector has to be formulated
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without the participation of the main source of power, which
is mentioned in constitution that it is our people, one
would need to bring up the questions. Doesn't mean that
people would have to make this decision without a president,
but it would make total sense to communicate with people
to explain, to bring these questions up, to explain what
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are we fighting for, what we likely will pay for
that and instead we have some governmental hill upon approaching
which you will be targeted and likely either executed, jailed
or thrown out. And it appears that the main task
of the leading group in power in Ukraine is to
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make sure that the opinion of people of their of
power would remain unknown. If you think that you can
operate without considering the people's opinion, then it should be
put on the banners. Our people are dumb. We are
making decisions for them, and it can be done in
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different ways. You can sing songs about the victims and
heroes right, or you can present the data and say listen,
we understand that this is your opinion, but this is
the metrics. This is the actual data. And trust us.
We know how bad things are or how they are.
In some cases, we cannot tell you everything but ballpark.
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These other questions, these are the risks, and this is
possible solutions that we can take. What do you think?
And this is how you address this. This is how
you find the buying from your people. This is how
you can get more creative input from people who might
suggest more interesting solutions. For example, Americans could have and
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that's a theorical situation. Given us the data that Russia
will be economically collapsing on the first of me and
we can then in report to that an adequate government
would say, okay, in this regard this as our plan.
If it fails as predicted, then we just need to
hold to this time and then this is our plan after.
If it doesn't, we have a plan B. Right, meantime,
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try to hold on. Let's figure out how can we
make sure that we lose less people, that you guys
survive and live somewhat acceptable till that date. Right, you
can include at the beginning of war, like people did,
they were visiting your helping your neighbors, checking on them,
doing welfare checks on the old grannies. This dialogue doesn't
even exist in the media sphere. We have evening propaganda
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coming about us being heroes, heroes, We're destroying Russians, destroying Moscovites,
destroying Putin's troops, and then oops, all of a sudden,
Russia artillery is already attacking Zaparogia. Are they that close already?
How come? And we completely fail in a strategic communication
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with people as a country. We completely do not do that.
We fail repeatedly to do that. As presidential communications. They
should be simple. You need to basically set the right point,
saying we are in point A, we are moving to
that point B, and this is the cost, this is
how we're gonna get there. And when you send some
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group Tabu Dhabi and then you hypnotize them and create
your own opinions and then make things of a secret
and do not even release what was discussed about. Yeah,
strategic disinformation may be important. Sometimes Putin was doing that regularly,
but it cannot be the only continuous information policy in
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the country. You need real comms too, because right now
people are being held for idiots and then not letting
them even to explain their opinion. You're talking about strategic
communication here, Alexi. So today I looked at that strategic
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communicator who was removed from because of scandal, Kittilti Mashenka
during COVID times. He was moved out and now he's
coming back, and yeah, this is apparently what he is
doing in Ministry of Defense. I'm shocked. We continue suffer
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strikes from Russia. We're already building the tense cities near
the places where people are losing electricity, where they cannot
live in multi story buildings and meantime, Kittiltimoshenka is making
posts that they're looking for portable energy stations, portable water
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heating stations if you have options sent to my inbox.
This is a weird post, Alexi. Is it a very
smart plan? No, Alexander, it's worse. It's the real way
how they run the government through Twitter reposts and all that. Yeah, exactly,
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this is their effective instruments. That's all they know. So
then what can we say about that system that is
looking for five hundred kilo heating systems in the social media?
Oh yeah, that's the system I was talking about for
the last couple of years and getting so much flak
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because I'm underlining exactly these things. We're failing to solve
the fundamental task of why are we gathering into one country?
We I think need to be gathering into one country,
not to be sent somewhere to poll und or Siberia
for slabor, or Austro Hungary should not take our territory.
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I think people need to define the goal why they
are gathering together as a country and formulated what is
a problem, what is a solution, how we'll get from
a point A to point B. This is what power
should be doing. We have a corrupt logic of why
we are a country. I think our basic justice is disrupted.
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In this country. People are continuously called upon to mobilize,
to fight hunger, to fight cold, to fight the enemies,
while elites are not partaking. In Israel, the kids of
ministers are fighting together with some pizza delivery family child.
That could be in Montenkia. You can find the son
of some millionaire and a shoemaker, and everybody understands that
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elites are partaking in the destiny of people. This is
the best motivation in our case. We have a system
of bribery and a system of non participation, a privileged system.
And the best illustration is the communication in the office
of the President when Zrensky is supposedly taking pictures himself
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with the lights out, while the members of his administration
are sitting normally with pictures. So they build this model
in a simple thing that we do have a group
of people who are exploiting this territory. Ideological gear is
to pronounce very emotional speeches to continue creating this instagram
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metaphysical stuff and propaganda. How heroic, how tribal, how united
we are and how one people we are. And then
there is, like the Wizard of Oz, some portable wall
with croplets of blood on it, and if you look
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behind it, there is a presidential group that is milking
this territory in these people, like if we are some
African country. Wait, why we are like this Alexi? Because
the whole thing was created for pumping money. The modern
Ukraine has never overcome that feature. Wait a second. In
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twenty nineteen, the in Service of People party, they are
the majority in the congress. Right. They recently, by the way,
were somewhat dying. One of them just died in the
motorcycle crash or motorcycle crash, and we didn't even hear
much about him. But Leivov now has issues because they
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have and this party has issues. They have exactly two
hundred and twenty six for majority. If one other of
them dies, they will need to start coalitions, they'll need
to start changing things. They will lose the majority in
the converse, but that's a political nuance. So we have
selected them all. We have elected the photographers, salespeople, some
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girls who are selling something online or training people. How
do you kiss your partner? Right? The guys who are
playing some comedy club. So we gather the whole hodgepodge
congress of these people, and they cannot exploit the people.
I think, oh, Alexander, they can. The system is being
defined by the fact that there is a system of
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rules present and a system of shadowy institutions or shadow
processes that exist in it that don't care about personalities
and personalities that get there. They are forced to play
by the rules of that system, and if they don't,
they're getting expelled by force. And I brought this example before.
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Ukraine is a very poor cow that is about to
die soon, and yet there's a huge vampire on its side,
just sucking all the juices. The temperature is falling down.
UAVs are taking this poor cow will It is on
the brink of death, but the vampire is not releasing.
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And we recently saw that in the media. There were
some investigative journalists coming out saying that while Ziganski was
trying to figure out what was violated in the energy systems,
those fellows who are under fire managed to steal two
more million, So that system is live and well, and
they're converting the money they get into gold and other assets.
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Somewhere outside Ukraine. One can even say that the government
system that we've been talking about, it doesn't exist, grain
doesn't exist as a country. It is a mirror, a
see through mirror that is called Ukraine. But behind it,
hiding behind the anthem and the flags and symbolism, there
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is a small group of elites that is actively exploiting
the population and territory while selling all this patriotic slob
to people. This is the real Ukraine if we're talking
about the contour of management, because there is another Ukraine,
of course, if you talk about people, there is Ukraine
of kind hearted, amazing people who support each other, who
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help each other in difficult times. So there is that
other amazing Ukraine. But on the level, on the contrare
of management, you find a small group of colonizers who
are riding their expensive vehicles among the usual people, and
they're exploiting everybody around and calling upon them to die
for that system. On the human level, Ukrainian is one
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of the best countries I know. I love our people.
They're amazing, But these wonderful people are being exploited by
the management class and they're being ignored continuously. Their opinion
is not being asked. Ever, one of the main things
the opinion of people is never almost asked. I'd like
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to say, you know, one more thing, I think I'll
agree with you about dumbification or idiocracy. Here I have
an example from some more media. Mister Klemienka, the had
of Antique corruption Prosecutor's office, made a statement that before
Russian invasion there were situations when the shadowy payments to
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congressmen were up to twenty thousand. In the first half
of the invasion, these payments disappeared, but then they revived
again and the congressmen were getting one to two thousand
for voices. And now the payments grew up to five
thousand per vote, and sometimes they could be penalized for
wrong vote, and then this shadowy salary would go down
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to three thousand. So these are solid statements made by
anti corruption lead. So speaking of that congress, we're used
to calling them congressmen and system congressman in this fashion
stops being a representative of his people or her people. Right. Yes,
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under Zelensky the system collapsed down to personal circle, those
five or six effective managers. That was not a fairy tale.
That's exactly how the country was run. Yes, the war
requires some separation into black and white. More harsher decisions
one can do these decisions, can make these decisions smarter
without breaking the system. And by the way, Timoshenka recently
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explained to us how it works. Yes, in her well
known statement, it is a very simple story. And all
these faces of Zelensky and people in front of him
at this meeting, they just indicators. You have to refresh
some basic knowledge to the people who are watching us
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that hey, this is not how this country is supposed
to work, but our country also works like this. Without
this element, it's very easy to misunderstand how we have
eight hundred and twenty destroyed targets on the Russian front
and we lost our townships or Russian army on the
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front is about seven hundred thousand. If they're saying that
they destroyed eight hundred and twenty, they destroyed everybody in
Russian army once and then additionally one hundred and twenty
thousand somewhere. So you would want to think, if you
know some math, if you're fighting an enemy worth of
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seven hundred and one thousand troops and yet you're declaring
that he destroyed eight hundred and twenty thousand. You killed
all of them and one hundred and twenty thousand were
killed twice. Right, How that's the KPI. That's very effective. Okay, fantastic.
Why are we retreating? Why are we losing territories if
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you are destroying the enemy so effectively? And I know, Michael,
tomorrow you will see that piece of stream. But and
I do feel for you on a human level, despite
all the new ones of that system. I hope you
win and you I do hope Ukraine to win in
this war. And I don't want your remainder on term,
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on this position to be unsuccessful. I want you all success.
Just reach out to me. I'll help you formulate so
we don't look at eight hundred and twenty destroy targets
when you're fighting seven hundred thousand targets. How can you
report that? Just on this level? All right, another important
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moment here. I think Alexei as illustration and we can
talk about Timoshenka and they're inner works of our parliament.
I want to pay attention to the key element of
what you said, and then we move to the next one.
The key point is that we have something to compare
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with in the head of our somewhat educated population, the
ones who are watching us, those who still remember seventeen
moments of Spring movies and some art and books and history. Right,
two revolutions, we had a colossal change. What you're describing
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now is a revolutionary situation. It's a classic, a classic,
Oh yeah, the one where the tops cannot and the
bottoms do not want to. Yeah. So we're missing certain things,
and I think, Alexi in your statement, you're missing a
specific haircut and a little armored vehicle historically speaking with
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a reference to but Ukrainians are being told that revolution
is what was on my done. Situations were very different
and the way practice shows us, we were very opposed
to each other, and one does not meet the other easily.
And the word revolution has been so attacked by many ways.
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At first it was attacked after decommunization, and then it
was perverted more through my done and the change of
attitudes to those events. So, when you are making a
very clear diagnosis to our society in a revolutionary situation,
can people create a revolution without understanding that it is
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a revolution? No, Alexander, the experience maybe one hundred years ago,
they didn't know about that but revolutions always happen on
the same condition that part of elites did not agree
with the current social structure. Not until the elites are
uprising the revolution can be successful. It's a fairy tale
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saying that it's only people who are doing it if
you talk about if you compare the Bolsheviks and their
October Revolution or how they called it Great Socialist Revolution.
They created the system that managed to win the Civil
War and Antanta intervention against fourteen countries. Then they conduct
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industrialization in the USSR. Then they somehow managed to win
the Second World War. They conduct another industrialization. They managed
to take a win in a space race. They build
nuclear weapons, they build new technologies. What's happening with Ukraine?
Ukrainian population increases, the wealth of people is increasing. Yes,
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there are stories about many people who were assassinated by
the Bolsheviks during the revolutionary years. Yes, but as a result,
several decades later, more people are living much wealthier. We're
leaving much wealthier in Ukraine at the end of the YEARSSR. Now,
what are we doing after the recent two revolutions. Our
population is decreasing, we are losing territory, We're losing people
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we're losing economy. If it is a revolution, okay, then
maybe we need a different revolution. Using the words of
the famous movie character, we need a different revolution. This
one is not for us, and I only appeal here
to our citizens to understand what is happening. My concern
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is with people's clear understanding of what's happening. This is
what I'm fighting for the communication courses that I teach
at school, because in order to understand what's happening, you
need to see the bigger picture. You need to see
strategic points of that picture. I think that's important, all right,
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that important moment I want to address today. The Telegraph
make publication rather interesting in my view, the plans to
turn Europe into a new superpower. Here we see France
supposedly coming out and saying that they are absolutely against
Ukraine purchasing British storm shadows, because EU together giving Ukraine
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those ninety billion, they should be buying them from France, right, Alexander, Oh, yes,
that is the point. And this is the conflict supposedly
described in different publications between France, Germany and Britain, and
Britain is not even a member of EU today. Eruta
made a statement in this regard saying, no let Ukraine
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purchase at least something they have issues on the front.
Stop martering here. I think Europeans finally figured out how
to make money and how to play that game with Ukraine.
The money should be going in certain places where they
want them to go, and nowhere else. And today Uta
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made another statement. He said that those who think that
EU will manage without United States, they are dreamers. So
where does everything go to in relations between EU and Ukraine?
Will have no arms? Okay? In orderly fashion Alexander, It
was indeed an interesting event. The Lanski did not go
to Davas. He saw that at the beginning. He came
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to the third day because the main topic of Davas
was the United States and Europe or Trump in Greenland.
Trump did not manage to acquire Greenland, and today there
are notes that being published that Trump cannot use force
to take it and Europeans did not bend. And his
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peace council, the one he declared for Gaza, was also interesting.
Right there are specific members who want who are interested
in United States as partner those parties looking to participate.
Melanie made a statement that if you change the way
it has formulated, then we might otherwise it goes against
our constitution. So Europe largely ignored that board. Then Zensky
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visits it on the third day and makes a rather
anti EU speech, which many people do compare to Vance's
speech in Munich, and he's accusing Europe and all the
deathly sins is that after his communication with Trump, or
because of his communication with Trump. It's an old Roman principle, right,
because after it doesn't always mean because of but it
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does seem like it was because of that communication. Because
if we follow the statements, I'm not even talking about
Urban I'm talking about let's say Chancellor of Australia, who's
had no benefits for EU for Ukraine in the EU.
And basically it means that Znansky got an answer that
there will be no EU. On the high level of
EU leadership, they discussed some special format, something like associate
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membership without the right to veto, without the right to vote.
So yeah, an inflatable seat in the parliament. Right, they
could be some rights. Ultimately, they could be some integration
with armed forces maybe and definitely economic relations et cetera.
But Ukraine will never be granted. I wouldn't say in
one hundred years, but not in the near future a
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full membership in EU. Zelensky was very pissed and if
you look at his speech, he is accusing Europe to
be impotent and weak, and at the same time he's
still throwing an anchor saying, hey, we do have a
million worth army and we can help you defend your territories,
your sees, et cetera, if you know how to use
this right and Chris Bandeerenka wrote that Zelenski, according to
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his information, had two speeches. I cannot verify that, but
I understand that Zelenski is in a very interesting position.
When Trump's aspiration to solve the Greenland matter during Davis,
he invited Zelensky to switch it, to switch the limelight
to a different topic, and probably something was promised to
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the Landskai and he was also pissed at EU for
their recent indecisions. That's why Ukrainian relations with the you
are problematized again. They're not interrupted, they're not destroyed. We
will still be getting some support, but they stopped being
completely cloudless and fully one percent supportive. The weights are
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wavering and not everything is good with the you. But
since our leadership, I think I'm quite sure they'll succeed
in selling everybody five times over and purchasing them back
and will change their dresses and songs several times. At
the moment, yes, we have some issues with the you
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and if AU is facing being solely responsible for Ukrainian security,
they I'll tell you how European authorities treat that. They
are almost as if when you're treating cancer, right, you
don't want to, but you kind of have to do
this chemo and you have to pay for that, so begrudgedly.
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They are somewhat somehow supporting Ukraine, and yes they will
continue providing some support, but they obviously want to at
least have some bonuses on their territories. And when they
see that the money that being given to Ukraine end
up going somewhere else, that's when they raise these voices
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and saying, no, we are the ones supporting you, that
we're telling you where to purchase the armaments. So this
was why EU is barking back at Zelenski and of
the first hour