Classified Classrooms: Recruiting Minds | Ryan Gable

Ryder Lee guests on Ryan Gables Radio Show The Secret Teachings discussing topics related to his new documentary Psychic Agent: Real Life Stranger Things.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Secret Teaching's tst radio dot Infoaratigable at
yahoo dot com. Thank you Russell Stewart for joining us.
Al G, thank you for joining us as well. Alrighty,
so tonight for the next ninety minutes, roughly, we have

(00:20):
Ryder Lee with us from Raised by Giants. You can
find him on YouTube. So if you're on YouTube right now,
you can just type in Raised by Giants and you
should be able to find Ryder Lee. He's been on
the show many times. He's a good friend of mine,
and he's made a handful of really good documentaries. The
Clockwork Shining documentary that was a really really good documentary.

(00:42):
Some stuff in that documentary at it's probably kind of
related to the show tonight. So anyway, let's bring Rider
on the broadcast. Ryder, thank you for joining us. Really
appreciate you being here.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
And I'm looking forward to talking about this because this
is basically the basis of my new documentary, Psychic Agent,
The Real Life Stranger Things, which should be out within
two to three months on Amazon Prime and Apple TV plus.
Kind Of what got me on this track was going

(01:16):
through all of the mk Ultra programs, so we know
that there were one hundred and forty nine sub projects
to mk Ultra, and there were several. Richard Helm of
the CIA, the director at the time, ordered that the
mk Ultra documents be destroyed and the only reason that
we have any of the documentation on mk Ultra was

(01:38):
because around eight thousand pages were found inside of some
financial documents that weren't destroyed by the CIA. But there
was reported that there was more subprojects of mk Ultra
than just the one hundred and forty nine that we
are privy to. Now, a few of the sub projects

(01:58):
I found very interesting because four of them focused solely
on psychic abilities and parapsychology, hypnosis and what would later
be called remote viewing. Now, there was another subproject that
involved children. There's a few of them, actually, but one

(02:20):
of them in particular was subproject one oh three in
nineteen fifty nine, which was called the Children's International Summer Village,
where all these kids were brought together to be at
a summer camp. The CIA was studying them to see
how they communicate with each other when they're in you know,
common groups, and it was also to study young children

(02:44):
who may be of interest to the agency. Now, if
you fast forward a little bit. There's this tape that's
been going around online that says something like you should
be here my voice and you're writ ear now. This
has been triggering a lot of people. They remember hearing

(03:06):
this in public school. They remember going through a lot
of these weird and strange.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Tests in public school.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
They would be taken out of class, taken to a
separate part of school that would be like a separate building.
Sometimes sometimes it was a different classroom, but a lot
of times it was just a completely separate building adjacent
from the school itself. They would be sat down, they

(03:37):
would have they would do hearing tests, they would do
vision tests, they would do tests of with like blocks,
they would do rorshack tests, they would do tests with cards,
like cards that would have a symbol on them. They
would be asking, oh, well, what's on what's going to
be the next thing on the card, which has a
lot of people to believe that this is like a
testing of you know, psychic abilities in the kids right

(04:01):
test with ropes. They would be told to drink some
sort of substance, like a very liquidity substance. Some people
believe that it was a pink pepto bismal type drink.
Other people remember it being a yellow, thick pepto bismol
like drink, but they were like, I don't know, Like

(04:22):
just In He's like, you know those little paper cups
that there's like look like shooters that they would be
that they would have to take. And this coincides with
like the drugging of kids, like nobody knows. And that's
the thing is within those tests, after they take the substance,

(04:44):
they don't really remember anything else after that, so it's
very difficult to figure out exactly what was going on.
But a lot of people remember the testing, going through
the testing, strange testing. Some of it was like reading,
and this will leads some people to believe that it
was like ADHD testing and stuff like that, which that's

(05:06):
not out of the realm of possibility. But a lot
of these programs were called gifted programs. They were called MGM,
which is really interesting because the entire MGM show with the.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
What was that, Oh, that's the network it's on right
MGM plus, the.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Institute Right MGM mentally Gifted Minds, the Institute on MGM plus,
which is.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Let me ask you a question writer, those substances whatever,
those substances were, and we could probably just sit here
and try to break down the various possibilities of what
those kinds of tests would be. We have a listener
in the chat named Joe Ryder who said that they
remember those tests and that he had those tests done.
I don't remember anything like that personally for me, but

(05:51):
maybe I'm too young. But my question is the way
that you describe those peptibysmal like substances based on what
people are saying they experienced. You know, there's a lot
of things because we're dealing with kids, that it could
be a misremembering of something that could be inflated as
a story because of all the pop culture and the

(06:13):
comics and movies and TV shows. But those things also
can be based on things like stranger things. Is so anyway,
the point is what those substances do You think that
maybe they could be some sort of ergot like substance, hallucinatory,
psychedelic like substances, because they use those for adults in
these kinds of programs, and humans have used these for

(06:34):
thousands of years to induce what we would probably call
psychic type abilities and to speak with spirits. If you
give that to children. That would absolutely enhance theoretically any
sort of those types of natural abilities already. That's my
first thought. What do you think of that? Or do
you know anything about that?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, so it seems like some sort of hallucinogenic substance.
And they would also be asked to put on goggles
like three D goggles. What would the three D goggles
be for? It would be to change your perception while
you're drugged, to get you to see things that you
normally wouldn't see. And I didn't give an example of

(07:12):
this when I was really young. When I was growing up,
I I would see things in my room every night,
like entities would like come out of the walls. Now
that might sound crazy, whatever people want to think, but
I told my parents about this. It was like, every
night I see these entities. They come out of the
walls and surround me in my bed.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Every night. My parents thought that something was wrong with me.
They took me to the doctor.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Okay, the doctor says that there wasn't anything wrong with me,
and he handed me this flash card.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
It was probably as big as this piece of notepod paper, okay,
and it had these bulls eyes on it and had
a big bullseye, then a small bulls eye, and then
it was like four different circles within circles, and he's like,
can you make this bulls eye become three D? Can

(08:08):
you make the bulls eye pop up off of the card?
I couldn't do it at that time, and he was like, well,
when you can do it, come back and see me.
And it was like any it was like really fuzzy,
like it was almost like it was three D on
the card already, Like if you were to take your
three D glasses off and watch a three D movie,

(08:31):
how it's like super blurry. That's what the card looked like.
And as the bulls eyes got bigger on the little
flash card, they got clearer. And so I'm like putting
two and two together here. And if these people were
forced to put on some three D goggles and then
they were, you know, given some sort of substance, would

(08:54):
that be to trigger some sort of abilities? I mean,
because we know that.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
There are three three you say they're three D goggles
because usually that kind of stuff works with you know,
a movie that's that's rendered to B three D. But
obviously if you put them on, they don't. They don't
work when you walk outside, things don't. They're already three dimensional.
So what does that? What does that? What does three
D goggles mean?

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Then for the people that can't see what they're supposed
to be.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Seeing, so maybe they're maybe they're not necessarily three D goggles,
but there's some sort of enhancing device to enhance the visions.
It almost sounds like you're giving someone a It sounds
like an acid trip, but then they're trying to enhance
or make the acid trip even more more real by

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putting some kind of device over over people's eyes.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Right, So if you couldn't, if you couldn't do something right,
it's just like with technology. You know, technology gives us
a leap to be able to talk to each other
while you're in Japan and I'm in the United States.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Right, Yes, we.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Wouldn't be able to do that with technology. Well, some
people wouldn't be able to possibly unlock these psychic abilities
that they have within them without a little nudge, without
a little help, without a little technology, right, I mean,
And that's just pure theory I have, just based on

(10:21):
what happened to me and me remembering those bulls eyes
on that flash card that were like super blurry. But
there's several instances of that with people being drugged and
then experimented on. And it's shown a lot in the
Institute on MGM plus with children. But there's like the
Ames leaf Room. Have you ever heard of the Ames

(10:42):
leaf Room. It was created by doctor Ames. He created
this which was funded and on contract by the Office
of Naval Intelligence, well Office of Naval Research, where he
would take college students into this room. I just had
leaves all over it. You can google it, you can
step in Ames Leaf Room. And he would give them LSD.

(11:06):
Then he would put these goggles over their head and
then have them sit in this weird room that he created.
It's called the Ames leaf Room.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
So, and people would have like the worst trips of
their lives in this room that's made out of leaves,
tripping on LSD with weird goggles over their head. They
would end up in the emergency room.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
So I mean and that's.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
A real story of the Ames Leaf Room. So, and
that was happening on a college campus, right. So there
is evidence of some of the things that people are remembering,
is just difficult to track it into actually being inside

(11:56):
of public schools. But the weird part about it, Ryan,
is that voice that I was mentioning of the tape
when people will put the headphones on and they would
go through these hearing tests in public school, which is
the voice that comes over you should be hearing my
voice in your right ear. That is the Monroe Institute
gateway tapes. That voice is from. That's a real thing

(12:22):
that's triggering people. That's the monro Institute gateway tapes. They
me saying gateway tapes is to induce an out of
body experience, which Robert Monroe is connected to the Stargate
remote viewing unit that the DIA and Army Intelligence was doing.
Army Intelligence paid Robert Monroe thousands of dollars to thin

(12:44):
their Army assets to the Monroe Institute to study under
Robert Monroe. So there's a connection here. So how did
these how and why were these gateway tapes put into
public school Did SRI have something to do with this

(13:04):
because SRI was a part of this entire thing too.
They were the original scientists that were put down to
study remote viewing and was funded by the CIA and
by the government, by the Air Force, by the NSA,
and there's this document that I have here. I'm gonna
actually share the screen here really quickly. Window. This is

(13:25):
from the Sun Streak, the IA Army intelligence program which
was for remote viewing. They were using remote viewing to
collect intelligence date on foreign targets during the Cold War,
started in nineteen seventy eight and ended in nineteen ninety five.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Is Sunstreak the one that reportedly supposedly if that's if
this is the one I'm remembering where the Arc of
the Covenant was also reportedly found in the eighties, it's
that the same program, yes, but.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
It is the same program as one of the very
first programs that was Grill Flame that was started as well.
It was just renamed so several times since nineteen seventy eight,
orient Intelligence and DA had been split, and then they
had their separate programs, and then they would come back together,

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then they would split again, that would cause another name change,
and then they would come back together, and then that
would create another name change. So it was Sunstreak for
a really long time, and then in nineteen ninety two
it was changed to the Stargate Project by Dale Graff,
which was an operations manager. That's going to be in
my documentary talking about this and how and why he

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changed the name to Stargate, and then it was supposed
to be given back to the CIA, which was funding
it in nineteen ninety five, and then the CIA put
the program down and said no intelligence data had ever
been collected from the program, which was a lie. Once
you once you read through all these documents, you'll see
that the remote viewers were on target with all most everything.

(15:01):
I mean, there's there's wind speed, there's detailed drawings of
the location that they're remote viewing with their mind, their
psychic abilities. I mean, it's it definitely worked. And that's
what also piqued my interest. Why would they shut down
a program that was on all accounts successful.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Purpose program is usually what happens. They repurpose it, they
rename it, they reassign people, or they or it goes black.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
That's right, That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
The one they either already had a program, two they
reassigned the program. Three it went so dark that nobody
is ever going to find out anything about it. And
the evolving nature of what remote viewing can become. You
can do so much with remote viewing. It's not just

(16:00):
you know, an intelligence data collection or spine for the government,
or seeing what somebody else is doing. There's so many
other levels and layers to remote viewing that can be done.
I mean there's outbounder experiments. There's uh which is the
sr I called him outbounder, the DA called him what

(16:23):
was the name, they called them a different name, but
it was essentially the same thing that they would have
the remote viewers remote viewing a certain individual and then
the remote viewer would literally be able to see through
their eyes. Then if you were to take that a
step further, well, then there's like by location. There's a

(16:46):
very advanced form of remote viewing that Ingo Swann created.
It was called perfect site integration that was essentially grate
up by location. You could literally bilocate your physical body
to an another place on the Earth and you would
be there and you would be able to influence the environment.

(17:06):
So it gets way more advanced. And they want you
to stop at you know, the government, they want you
to stop at this this intelligence data collection that the
remote viewers were doing for de I A and army intelligence.
They want you to stop there.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
All over is the is a theoretical scientific concept. I
think that would be that would also apply to perhaps
understanding what a ghost is heard. I've heard this theory
for a very long time, and I think that it's
probably it's it's an adequate potential explanation for for ghosts
or something similar to ghosts.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, why why does unexplained the activity or paranormal activity
have to be of a dead spirit? Well, usually likely
probably from somebody that's living.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
That's usually it has to do with and is associated
with heightened emotional states stress, anxiety, fear, terror, even sexual
tension and energy, psychic abilities, telekinesis, moving objects with your mind, etc.
Those things, even pyroe what do they call it, pyro techniques,

(18:19):
even those kinds of things being able to manipulate fire,
the elements or whatever the cases, comes from those heightened
emotional states. So there's a connection between those two things.
Although I was wondering, I want to ask You're a
perfect person to ask this question, because I'm thinking of
the Pentagon's recent announcement that they fabricated many of the

(18:42):
UFO stories and narratives, and I don't trust the Pentagon.
But this has been a theory in eufology for a
long time. It's also documented back in the fifties that
that was one of the goals, not necessarily the Pentagon,
but that the media, the military, was intelligence was going
to do this. So when we learn that now, there's

(19:05):
like an open acknowledgment that yes, the military perpetrated these
myths or took real stories and turned them into myths
or things they didn't know what they were. And I'm
wondering if the same thing has come to your mind
in researching for your new documentary, has come to your
mind about things like remote viewing and things like people

(19:29):
remembering having gone to these gifted children test programs in
public schools that perhaps some of this stuff, you know,
people say, hey, I remember that, Well, we do know.
Psychologically speaking, people misremember a lot, and it can be

(19:49):
traced directly back to things that you're entertained by, or
it can be tracked back to states of emotional instability,
people that are missing certain things in their life so
they want to be part of something, or it's an
excuse for why their life isn't what it could be.
I mean, that's very real. So I get the point

(20:10):
is my question is, just like with UFOs, I think
it's possible. But my question to you is do you
think it's possible? Do you know anything about it? Or
you have a theory on it? Maybe that a lot
of that stuff that we're hearing today about those those
memories are are aren't just the same types of mythos
that were promoted by the military for UFOs. They're just

(20:33):
doing this now with with psychic abilities or you know,
with paranormal experiences that or it's not part of a
long line of similar disinformation that's been been around for decades.
Do you understand what I'm asking? Do you have a
thought on that?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Absolutely I understand that, and I could yea understand someone
coming at it from that angle that. That's why I'm
trying to get down to what factual information can I
glean from any of this stuff, Like do we have
any documentation? I mean, obviously there really were gifted programs. Now,

(21:15):
whether those gifted programs were for trying to find psychic
kids to shepherd them and herd them into a government facility,
we don't know, Okay, but there's one hundred percent gifted programs.
There's too many people that remember being in a gifted

(21:36):
program for them not to be a gifted program. When
I heard about this, as I was growing up as well,
there were.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Gifted programs in my school.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I was never a part of it, but I know
that there were. Almost every school in the nineties towards
the end of the eighties into the nineties had gifted programs.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Now, they.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
You never told what the gifted programs were. They told
the people told.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Their parents that they were a part of.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Like that they were super smart, and that they need
to be put into extra classes like extracurricular activity classes
because they.

Speaker 5 (22:12):
Were scoring above average.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Okay, now that could be mixed up and confused with
some sort of weird government testing as well. But as
far as documentation, we have this document from the sun
Streak remote viewing program that says right here, only one

(22:38):
scientific claim of detection of remote viewing is known. Chinese
scientists claim to have detected remote viewing during their experiments
with children. Do you have this at the bottom.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Of your screen?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
I do not see it on my screen. Let me
see if I can pull it up.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
I should have should be at the bottom of your
hit it on the share, should be able to just
bring it up down near the bottom.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yes, it's allowing me. Now, it wasn't allowing me at first,
it is now so you can see them on the screen.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Now, straight data on these experiments is insufficient to validate this. Now,
this part down here looks like it was that it
tried to be redacted, like someone tried to just mark
this out with like a pen. It looks like it's
been marked over like twice, and it says work to
replicate these experiments, however, is going on at SRI.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
So they shut the program down because it wasn't providing
anything of value. But then whatever value there was in
it was continued at SRI. They tried to replicate the experiments.
Is that what I'm to understand.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Right, But we don't know if that means replicating the
experiments with children that's just stated above here. With that,
the Chinese have detected remote viewing during their experiments with children,
which is one accurate. They were doing those experiments whenever
you turned around, I don't know. I think it was

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like thirteen or fourteen. You were then kicked out of
the program. They had no use for you anymore in China.
And currently there are programs in the UK that are
training kids with psychic abilities. They'll put blindfolds on them
and they'll have them doing all they would be naming
what color is there when they can't even see it.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
It's real program.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Now, that's not a nefarious program. That's just a program
for parents that think that their kids have some sort
of extrasensory perception that doesn't evolve school or anything. It's
just like a like a sports class that you would
take your kid to, or a gymnastics class or taekwondo.

(24:59):
It's like an ex your curricular activity class that's going
on in the UK that is training kids how to
be psychic.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Okay, I think it's a lot. It's a lot easier
today because of the Internet and because of widespread, cheap,
easily accessible communication. But if you go back a couple
of decades, if you go back into the nineties, I
don't see why, theoretically, why it would be even a
second thought that militaries, corporations, governments looking for, you know,

(25:32):
a new generation of or people they can train to
be a new generation of specialized whatever. And they go
to schools and they find people that test very high
and test in a certain way, and then they recruit
them or their families into those programs, whatever those programs are.
They don't have to be psychic. But I mean, they

(25:52):
just could be people that you think that are really smart,
that you want working at the CIA.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
That's right, that's exactly right. Like athletes rap.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's like athletes at schools, you go recruit athletes. You're
telling me the military or the intelligence community or the
government hasn't done that with really smart people. Of course
they have other some countries they force you to do it.
In the Soviet Union or in China, they would just
kidnap people and force you to participate scientists, et cetera,
force you to make things and perform experiments. So, yeah,

(26:23):
this is.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
And that's what's happening. The people that I have talked
to that are oudamant that they were a part of
these school gifted programs for long periods of time. One
of them including Walter Bosley. He's the one that was
one inside of one of these gifted programs that was

(26:48):
called MGM in California that he was forced to take
a yellow liquid and then do all of these tests.
He ended up in the intelligence community. He ended up
working for the working in the Air Force. He ended
up working being a spook for the CIA, an a

(27:09):
counterintelligence agent. Another one my friend, Trey Hudson, same thing.
He lived in Florida. He was a part of these programs.
Then he ended up working for the DoD and Walter
was told that by his mentor that he had been

(27:29):
watched for his entire life.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Okay, this is kind of the basis of one of
the sub stories of the TV show Fringe. It wasn't
necessarily the government, but you had these these two really
famous and intelligent scientists that were using drugs to find
children that had, you know, certain amplified abilities. And one

(27:54):
and the main character with's her name Olivia, he ends
up becoming an FB eye agent who is put in
charge of investigating those kinds of programs. I mean, that's
just a fictionalized version, but what you're explaining is something
that's very real, and I.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Do believe if these programs were real, that's what it
was for. It was to shepherd and herd these people
into a certain direction. The military were studying these kids,
looking at them to try and put them into leadership roles,
just like I was mentioning with that mk Ultra subproject
where they would take all these kids, put them in

(28:33):
a camp for an entire summer and then study them
and watch them see what kind of learning capabilities they had,
in order to figure out if any of those kids
would be later on put into positions of power within
the military or within the intelligence community.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
You know what's interesting to me, writer, is that technology,
you know, scientific concepts, philosophies, these things, things expand and
grow rapidly. Computer technology is a famous example of that.
It doubles and doubles and doubles, and it advances quickly.
But if you think about just the medical practice itself,

(29:14):
we are not more than one hundred years removed. If
that it could be less than one hundred years from
blood letting practices. We're less than one hundred years removed
from putting women into insane asylums because of emotional states.
We're less than we're less I'd say one hundred to

(29:36):
be really conservative, but we're less than one hundred years removed.
Maybe more like what we're still doing it using mercury
as a solve, as a lotion as a substance to
cure diseases, which is arguably one of the things that
caused leprosy. Exposure to mercury on the skin and it

(29:56):
would cause your skin to literally peel off some of
the stuff we're still doing today. In fact, when you
have a woman that goes to the hospital to give birth,
and I make that distinction now because they say men
can have babies, but when a woman goes to the
hospital give birth, it's still a very barbaric and they

(30:17):
say it's sanitary and it's clean, it's a really barbaric
and unsanitary mentally and physically conditioned, Like a woman should
not be laying down on her back unless she feels
it's necessary to give birth. People used to stand to
give birth or give birth in water, not lay down.
My point is in giving you these examples of blood
letting and things like this, is because or mercury. We

(30:40):
think that these are like barbaric practices that are confined
to some historical period that we've grown out of, that
we've learned from our mistakes. But what we're doing today publicly,
the stuff we like I explained at the beginning of
the show writer, the stuff we feed kids, the various

(31:01):
pharmaceutical drugs, the open public experiments with different types of injections,
all of that stuff is the equivalent of modern day
blood letting. It's the equivalent of modern day we still
use it mercury, old practices of mercury, mercury use blood letting.
The kinds of things that we think are like, oh,

(31:23):
that's barbaric, why would somebody do that, Well, we're doing
the exact same thing today publicly. And if we're doing
that kind of thing publicly, and we have no problem
experimenting on children and adults, or spraying DDT on kids
eating lunch or swimming in a pool, I mean, it
just makes me think I can't even conceive of what

(31:44):
goes on behind the scenes. And when you have power
and money and we know of all the programs we
know that did exist, and the stuff a little bit
that we know about them that's confirmed, I'm sure that
it's really beyond comprehension the kinds of things that have
been done to both children and adults in programs like

(32:06):
this without consent, without knowledge. I mean, I'm sure that
you've probably heard of those, the idea of like breeding
programs where a lot of people are you know, kids
are bred for these kinds of experiments. It's not even
that they are in school and they're taken out for
special classes, or that their kids go missing and end

(32:27):
up you know, kidnapped and end up in some some
horrible situations. Just like there's like breeding farms, which actually
kind of is partly what Epstein was doing in The
New Mexico. You could argue that that was part of
what he was doing there, with the with the wanting
and pregnate women and give birth to these children off
the grid. So that's maybe a whole different subject. But

(32:49):
I just wanted to mention things like these barbaric quote
barbaric practices, But we still do the exact same type
of thing today, and we do these things publicly and openly,
So it doesn't it doesn't take too far of a
stretch of the imagination to look at what you're showing
me and to think that it's probably a thousand times

(33:09):
worse than what these documents imply and show, especially if
the programs went black.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's it's way worse than what we could possibly even imagine.
I mean, it's a it's a tentacle that expands to
multiple different layers and levels that would be very difficult
for any one person to figure out every level of
it if they don't have the proper documentation or even

(33:39):
know where to look there. But my first thought is, well,
if you recruit all of the smartest people into your organization,
then like what does that do. Well, One, you're getting
rid of all the smart people. You've got all them,
so then you give them a certain boundaries that they

(34:02):
can't cross in the military, in these through that organizations.
So then that done's innovation that wrecks people creating new
things that could be beneficial to everyone.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
With innovation behind the scenes. That's twenty thirty forty fifty
years ahead of everything else.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
There you there, you, that's what it is. And speaking
of like kids and you know the you just mentioned
with the you know, the farms and all that, well,
check this out. China has now developed the world's first
pregnancy humanoids from the daily Now that's capable of giving

(34:50):
birth to a live baby.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Scientists in China are developing the world's first pregnancy robot
capable of carrying a baby be determined giving birth. The
humanoid will be equipped with an artificial womb that received
nutrients through a hose. Expert said. The prototype is expected
to be released next year with a selling price of

(35:15):
around one thousand year ten thousand dollars row.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Wait wait, one thousand yen. Is this a Japanese Oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:22):
One hundred thousand yan or yin or yan yan.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Looks like Chinese.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I thought you meant yin. It's Chinese currency, and said that.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
The artificial womb technology is already in a mature stage
and now needs to be implemented in the robots audomen
so that a real person robot can interact with the
active pregnancy.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Okay, so this is yes, this type of what who
it's going to look like?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, I'll bring that back up on the screen, but
I wanted to show listeners that yes, this was MIT
Technology review back in twenty twenty three. These artificial this
is what one of them looks like an artificial womb.
So they want to take that and this is in Japan.
This is a Japanese artificial womb. They want to take
that and put that into what you showed, which is

(36:13):
a robot, to make it more humanoid. So these things
are artificial wombs that exist separate, and then they want
to stick them into a humanoid like body from what
you're showing me.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
And people thought that it was just a conspiracy theory
that they had these artificial like babies being born outside
of the womb.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
You know what, this is a really this just made
me think of something really interesting. So that artificial wom
I just showed you is a Japanese artificial womb. And
I wrote a technology book many years ago where I
talked about the development of artificial wombs elsewhere in the world.
Have you ever noticed that when you read stuff from China,
I don't necessarily believe stories coming out of China, but

(36:59):
you can read stories from over here in Japan, where
I am a stuff about, and even environmental technologies that
just seem like they're so simple. There's no propaganda. It's
just like, hey, we designed a plastic that dissolves in
water and it's made of like seaweed. Solves the plastic problem.
You ever notice that, like anywhere else in the world

(37:20):
you read about stuff like that, the technology always seems
so far advanced. And we know as Americans that we
are the wealthiest and probably the most ruthless of any country,
and we're sitting here with technology that feels like it's
from the nineteen fifties. That's why people come to places
like South Korea, China, Japan and they're like, Wow, these

(37:43):
people are living in the future. It's like, no, that
technology is probably itself really old. In the US, it's
just all been gobbled up by corporations. It's been gobbled
up by defense contractors, by companies like Apple and Facebook.
And that's why we still live in like nineteen fifties technology.
But the rest of the world, see any developed country

(38:05):
seems to be fifty to one hundred years ahead. We
have this stuff too, we just don't publicize it as much.
That's what I think. I don't know, do you have
a thought on that.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
It's really weird.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I've noticed that too, and I don't really understand it either,
other than that they just don't They want to see
the United States fall and fail, and while all these
other countries are just constantly developing new and breakthrough technology.
I mean, look at cloning, bro I mean, cloning was

(38:39):
heavily talked about in the nineties. Bill Clinton was talking
about cloning only the sheep, Dolly, the sheep. It was
a huge thing. They were talking about it when it's
like human trials going to start, just like how they
were talking about anti gravity and free energy all the
way back in the early nineteen hundreds. Hey, then all
of a sudden, boot nothing. Let's just shove that. Let's

(39:04):
just shove that thing.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, that's that's because it went black. I think, just
like the other programs we're talking about, it's a really
popular thing. People are interested in it. It's it's for
some people, it's science fiction. For other people, it's just science.
And then just disappears one day, and it almost feels
like we I mean, as an American, it almost feels
like we've gone back in time. It almost feels like

(39:28):
we've gone we've lost technology. It's not lost, it's there,
we just don't don't have access to it. I mean,
the things this isn't the point of tonight's show, but
the things that you find over here where I am writer.
You're just thinking, like, why why do we not have
this in the United States? Don't I don't understand. It
makes life so much easier. Why, Well, I think again,

(39:50):
because it's all under the control of defense contractors, the
aerospace industry, the Pentagon, the military, private corporations you've never
heard of before, or startups in Silicon Valley. Because they
have a stranglehold. They have I don't even know if
monopoly is the right word, but they have control of
all I think control of all of it.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Well, that's the same time. That's the thing too, is
that AI. No one's talking about this. You might have
talked about it, I'm not sure, but I've never heard
anybody else talk about this. They all talk about aisn't
like there's going to be an AI takeover, that the
AI is going to take everybody's jobs. No one's talking
about how AI is going to invent stuff. AI is

(40:32):
going to create things. AI is going to patent things,
and AI is going to be used as the scapegoat
for the reason why we haven't had all this stuff
for a really long time. Okay, So free energy, okay,
I'm calling it right now, is going to be created

(40:56):
by AI.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
AI will develop it quote.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Unquote exactly anti gravity craft, which I am very confident
we already have the military has had for freaking sixty years.
They've at least at least been developing it. AI is
going to create see, because that puts a middleman in between,

(41:20):
because they can't just come out and say, oh, well
we've had this stuff for a really long time. Here
it is here. It is that people will be like,
what do you mean, how long have you had this?
How long have you had this free energy. How long
have we been paying for power.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
And all this stuff?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
But now we don't have to worry about it because
AI cracked the code. AI cracked the code. They found
the cure for cancer, They found out how to work
free energy. They figured out anti gravity craft to protect
us from the freaking fault, fake alien invasion. Okay, that's
just an example. I don't really believe that that's going

(41:58):
to happen, but something similar to that is probably going
to happen, and people aren't talking about it because they can't.
They don't see it like that. The AI is going
to be the scapegoat for everything, even innovation.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah, I can see're going to be.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Like, oh, AI finally did it. We finally we figured
out how to do it. The missing link the researchers
and scientists had been looking for and studied for. The
people have been donating into this foundation for forty to
fifty years, giving all of their money to cancer research.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
A I just solved it.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
A C And contrarily, you'll find the opposite. You'll find
artificial intelligence has informed us that we can't do X.
We're not able to cure cancer. You need to take
the drugs we're not able to develop non fossil fuel technologies.
You need to keep you know, well, they tell you

(42:55):
not to use it, but you're going to have to
continue to drive your combustion engine vehicle because we just
even the AI can't figure out another option. So you
could find that it acts contrarily to that as well.
I mean we basically already like that with computers, Like well,
I read it online, so it must be true or
it must not be true. We rely on artificial intelligence
a super perceived as a super intelligence compared to the

(43:18):
average human. It's really right. I mean, it's really a
glorified search engine in a lot of ways, most of
the chatbots, but it'll be used for the opposite of
that as well. I want to go to the chat
really quick, writer, because there's a lot of people that
have commented in the chat room about their experiences or
things they've been through Jewels of Earthly Delights as I
was born in nineteen ninety and in one of those programs,

(43:40):
numerous classmates went straight into jobs at the New York Times.
Others went to DC to work in the federal government there, you,
which is just what we were talking about. Oh, I
like this who is this is your real name, Paggy
in the Chat because that is Peggy Bundy. That's one
of my favorite TV shows of all time. Peggy in
the says, I went to school in two different states,

(44:02):
but both called it the gifted program.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Yeah some people. Some people it's the gifted program, other
people it's called the mentally gifted minds. And see, there's
different reasons given in different states as to the decision
to put your child inside of one of these programs
within public school. They're given different reasons. Some people were

(44:29):
said that their kid was like super smart and that
they needed to be put in like a special class.
And then other states where your kid is really stupid,
he's not learning properly, he has learning disabilities, he's dyslexic,
he has ADHD, he needs to be put into a
special class.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yes, well, and that that we could also theorize too
that whatever is causing the increase in quote autism, people
say that that is a debilitating condition. Others say that
it's the next phase of human evolution. However, you interpret
that or perceive that those kinds of states are created

(45:13):
clearly by the conditions that we create through food and
drugs and medicine and all these other things. Then if
those kids really are able to access something that is
outside of the ordinary and they become extraordinary, then it's
almost like we're literally traumatizing, brainwashing, and damaging children to

(45:36):
produce those different qualities and states that allow them to
access those other realms. In other words, it's kind of
like the way that I perceive it. The way that
I see it, it's it's kind of like those stories
of satanic ritual abuse, where you have to traumatize and
abuse and sexually do things to the child in order

(45:59):
to get the personality to split. And it's not just
satanic ritual abuse. It's also done with drugs as well,
and you know the MK ulture programs and others. So
I think we're doing that collectively as a culture. We're
doing that. It's not like a secret program. It feels
like we're doing that. As a culture writer, it feels
like that's what we're doing that to children at every

(46:20):
level of grade school, from the moment they're literally from
the moment they're born until they become an adult. It's
not and it's not just about programming or making money.
I mean, what is it. One in two are autistic
by the end of this decade, according to the CDC
one in two. That's not evolution. That's a synthetic thing

(46:43):
that we've created, I think, and I think it ties
back perhaps into these programs, which also I want to
mention this to you too, because I think it is
in line with our idea here of why there's maybe
more advanced technology behind the scenes, because this very smart,
intelligent people, the high level Da Vinci type people are

(47:04):
found when they're young and brought into you know, programs
or the military or whatever some corporation. You think about
what we heard, what was it a couple of months ago,
back in May from the former Bush administration official Catherine
Fits and whatever you think of her, I mean, I

(47:26):
don't know what to think. But here's just a reminder
of the economic times. The US spent twenty one trillion
dollars to build a secret underground doomsday bunker for the elites.
And it's more than just a bunker. It's more like
a series of it's a network of cities and tunnels.
And this is the kind of thing that I had
heard rumors of, completely unrelated to anything that I was

(47:50):
interested in, because I was only nineteen years old. I
just started reading weird conspiracy books. I had read UFOs
and I was a kid, but weird conspiracy books. And
I had people in Tampa in Orlando tell me things
about mcdale Air Force Space, that there were underground facilities there,
tunneling systems that went under the Bay of Tampa all

(48:11):
the way down to Miami and all the way down
to Cuba, and that they use that to traffic drugs,
They use that to traffic people. There are stories. They're
not even stories, actually that's the wrong word. There are
videos and and and audio. You can watch them, and
they've been the They've been the subject of a lot

(48:32):
of theorizing for decades of cities all across the world.
We're talking to the United States. In fact, Saint Petersburg, Florida,
where right across the bay from where mcdal Air Force
Space is. This happened at a baseball game. You get
just this weird trumpet like sound that is blaring in
the in the air. That this has been seen and
heard in Texas, I think, I want to say Sweden,

(48:55):
Texas for sure, Florida for sure. It's been heard in
Russia for sure. I think it's been heard in China.
But what they classify that weird trumpet sound in the
air as they call it, like the the the venting
of exhaust from these underground facilities because when they're building them,
all this toxic gas builds up, so they have to
expel it. And when we're talking massive, massive pipes, massive facilities,

(49:19):
and when they expel all that gas, you get that
kind of wishing sound in the air. And that's like
official explanations for different different things that have happened around
the world. Is again, this is a global thing. And
so when you get someone like Catherine fitz who says, yeah,
we build a twenty one trillion dollar, you know, under
ground city, I don't think people understand the nature of

(49:42):
what she's actually suggesting. Twenty one trillion dollars is more
than half the national debt, and to build something like that,
it's possible to do it without people knowing. I mean,
the Japanese built the g cans here in Tokyo without
anybody knowing, and it was all underground and it was
it's like a massive temple complex. It's pretty crazy. So

(50:02):
you can do it, but you need really smart people
to do it. You need the top best of the
best engineers and probably almost like city planners, you need
everybody who's at the top of their field to do this.
You need very advanced technology to be able to do
this kind of thing. And so it makes me think.
My point is, it makes me think, this is why

(50:25):
we don't have any on the surface advances in quote technology.
It's why I mean, I'll give you I think what
a great example would be is over here in Japan
they have the famous Shinkansin, and the Shinkansin has been
exported to India and other countries, but the US doesn't
want it. They've had the Shinkansin bullet train over here

(50:46):
since the nineteen sixties and it has like an impeccable
safety record, I mean, or not even a safety record,
it has that too, but it has like an impeccable
record of like never having an issue shoes. There have
been a few, you know, issues with like electrical things,
some fire here or there, but it like it has

(51:07):
no record of anything bad happening. They've ran this thing
for but since the sixties, that's over almost three quarters
of a century they've had this thing, and it just
keeps getting better and better, and we don't have that.
We have like Amtrak that is covered in graffiti and
smells like urine. You know why that is? We have
that because we've spent all of our money and we've

(51:30):
sent all of our brilliant people to build whatever the
fuck this is. And I think they.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Would say that the United States is too hilly and
there's too many mountains that they couldn't build this, uh
this Amtrak fast track bullet.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Train to do it.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Yeah, because Japan isn't a series of volcanoes and mountains.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
But oh, I know, but I'm just saying that would
be the excuse, like there's too much train here in
the United States, you can't do it. But which is
complete another horrible But we do know that the article
that you just brought up could very well be accurate

(52:10):
because they were doing this during the Cold War and
they had one in West Virginia. They at the Greenbrier Hotel.
There was an underground bunker that was built into the
side of the mountains.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Only you and me and a couple of friends that
we have we know that. But yeah, you're right, that's fascinating.
People should look at Greenbrier. It's a resort is it
a resort or it's like a hotel resort. I think
that's where the governor's bunker was.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
It was the governor's bunker and it was all of
the politicians and the president from Washington, d C. That's
where they would go in case of a nuclear explosion,
in case the Cold War escalated to to the point
where there are you know, nuclear bombs being dropped.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
I'm showing them showing it on the screen right now.
I also see my friend Teresa just join the chat. Hello, Teresa.
Here is the Greenbriar Resort. You can actually get a
tour of the bunker. Have you ever gotten a tour?
I never got one.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yes, I went in, Oh you got a tour.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Wow, that's really cool. Yeah, you can get a tour
of the bunker. Look at that.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
But they made this one all in one secret. They
just blasted out the side of the mountain and then
made it to where there was all this construction going
on and when they were building the hotel and then
they just yeah, it's huge, it's huge. They still have
the original bunk beds and like everything in there.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
And this we're talking about the Cold War, We're talking
about a time when I mean even in a decade,
technology advances rapidly, So we're talking how many decades ago
and the amount of time you need to be able
to develop the kind of technology to build something like
that in the first place. It's like you when people
look at go Beckley Tepe, they say, well, it's eleven

(54:00):
thousand so years old. I mean, that's fascinating enough that
takes you back to I mean that's the middle of
the Younger Drives, the end of the Ice Age. But
it also makes you ask the question, how many thousands
of years did you have to develop the technology to
be able to do something like that? So, I mean
we've had to have had the technology to do things

(54:23):
like this since I mean, at least it had to
have been World War Two, it had to have been
the forties and the fifties. There's no possible way you
just overnight design something and build something like this. It
takes decades to build up the technology to be able
to do it, let alone actually to build it. A writer,

(54:45):
I think you're muted.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
I think that makes you think you like, what about
all these other underground places, like what about the Paris cantasquorms? Yeah,
that's a whole bro like that is uh, that is
it been, And there's a whole entire underground city that
is just as big as Paris, all underground, like there's

(55:06):
some people. There's been rumored that some people have gone
in there and have never come out because they've gotten lost.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Have you.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Have you ever seen those Turkish tunnels? Yeah, the ones
in Yeah, darren Ku darren Q tunnels. It's like an
entire underground city that's built carved. I'm showing them them
on the screen right now just for audio only listeners.
You can if you want to type this in d
e r i n k u y u d e

(55:40):
r i n k u yu. Yeah, and a massive
underground complex. Uh they by the way, they Oh, I'm sorry, writer.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Go ahead. It seems like every single popular country has
a city underneath it. I mean, we know about the
cities underneath La that's a really big one. There's cities underneath.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Vegas, Like.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Who did this? Why did they do this? And now
we're still doing the same thing, We're still creating underground cities.
I mean, does this go back to the hopey ant
people like.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
I was just thinking that because that is yeah, that's right,
they came out of the ground the ant people.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yeah, and see some of the humans that were on
the surface from a huge cataclysm, took them underground and
then resurfaced them after it was safe to come back out.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
So this brings a few questions to the forefront of
my mind. Writer. On the screen, you can see that
it says in nineteen fifty eight, this is the Greenbriar website.
Nineteen vity eight, Congress instructed the Greenbrier to build our
West Virginia Wing to conceal you alluded to this to
conceal the construction of emergency or fallout shelter and relocation

(57:02):
facility for Congress. So a few things come to my
mind speaking of Fallout and speaking of the Greenbrier. I've
been playing Fallout seventy six a lot recently. My school,
my high school is in the game. Your hometown is
in the game, Point Pleasant, Mothman. It's a really fun game.

(57:23):
I don't like that it's all online, but it's a
really fun game. And I'm like a big Fallout fan,
So I'm really excited for season two that's coming out,
and I think it's December and the first season, I
don't know did you see the first season of Fallout?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yes, I loved it. I thought it was great. I'm
glad that they're fast tracking in the series.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yes, me too. And so if anybody doesn't know anything
about Fallout, that's okay. You don't have to be a
video game fan to know anything about it. But this
is what it makes me think. In the first season,
taking from the Cannon and the lore of the actual
video game stories, have a corporation called Vault Tech. And
I don't want to give too much away for people

(58:04):
that might want to go watch it, but this corporation
you find out it's implied in the show, and it's
been speculated on in the games that the Vault Tech Corporation,
which was building bunkers for the apocalypse, for nuclear war,
this big war between China, Russia, the US that when
Peace twks started to go very well and it looked

(58:27):
like there wouldn't be an apocalypse, the idea was that
Valt Tech decided to drop the bombs themselves and to
destroy the world and because they would be able to
manage the apocalypse, and that is like the main storyline
in the first first season of the TV show based
off the Games is that you have these managers that

(58:50):
want to be able to manage the end of the world,
and they say that time is the ultimate weapon, that
we can destroy all of our enemies and then we
can re populate the world and we can redesign the
world in our image, and they wanted to do. These
are like billion trillion dollar corporations, robotics companies, vault companies,

(59:11):
you name it. And I mean, truth is stranger than fiction,
but sometimes they're the same thing. And I'm not saying
it's predictive programming, but when you read stuff like the
twenty one trillion dollar underground city network that Catherine Fitz
talked about, and we know that there's a long history

(59:31):
of this. We just saw Greenbrier and that was back
in nineteen fifty eight. First of all, it's not really
that incomprehensible to think that what she's saying is true
or could even be an understatement. But it also is
not unfeasible to think that what you saw in the
first season of Stranger not Stranger Things of Fallout isn't

(59:52):
really off from whatever the hell this twenty one trillion
dollars is. Because if you have other countries like China,
countries like Japan just to go to the far far East,
the other side of the world, that are like seventy
five years advanced on the surface with just transportation, just
basic public transportation. The trains in China are arguably better

(01:00:13):
than even Japan, which I don't know if I believe
that because all the lies upont of China, but it nevertheless,
it's like seventy five years more advanced than the United States.
I don't believe the US isn't advanced. I just think
we've done it here with this twenty one trillion dollars underground.
So it's to me, it really sounds like vault Tech.
It sounds like we have a group of corporate managers

(01:00:35):
that have decided to literally go underground to build an
entirely different civilization and to let everything on the surface
crumble and to let time be the ultimate weapon to
destroy all of their enemies. I mean, people speculate it's
for an asteroid impact or there's going to be nuclear war.
I don't necessarily think any of that. I'm just saying

(01:00:56):
that it feels like we're dealing with the Vaultech corporation.
I mean, and the evidence is it's weird that something
like this would be said after the TV show comes out, too,
with having no relationship to the TV show. Those kinds
of weird synchronicities happen quite often. So these are just
things that I think about. I'd like to know what
you think, considering that you have seen the TV show,

(01:01:18):
it feels very eerily similar to vaultech.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Well, I mean, is it that whenever we get to
a certain population and things aren't manageable at all anymore
than they just drop the nukes and do a reset
and start everything over again. I mean, it could be
a possibility. I mean, I wouldn't put it past them
to do that, but I think the things would have

(01:01:43):
to get way worse. But in the way of like
innovation too, I think that looking at it from their
perspective and their angle, maybe it's they don't want to
be the number one of like innovation and have all
this stuff makes things way easier here in the United
States because people already want to come here. Everyone already

(01:02:09):
in the everywhere in the world wants to come to
the United States. They want to live in the United States.
Even though in some instances, like in Japan, a lot
of things are better, which I'm we've talked about several times.
There's also disadvantages. No place is one, right, But if
we were also the number one inventor of all this stuff,

(01:02:32):
and we had all this technology that made the way
of life one hundred times better than it already is,
then there would be nothing but people coming here. Then
there would be a huge, really bad, overcrowning problem that
would be unmanageable. So imagine if we've created the United

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States as this the best in the world, blah blah blah,
even though it might not be compared to some other countries.
We have the perception that it is people want to
come here.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
It doesn't matter where you're from. They want to come here.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
They want to live here, regardless of how great or
not great that it may be in some areas. Now
imagine that same perception.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Mixed with.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
The way of life being seventy five years in the
future and us being the only places like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Letting time destroy everything.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Well, I mean not only that, dude, Like we've talked
about this several times too, I mean look at like Chernobyl, Dude,
like in a hundred thousand years, like even in a
couple of thousand years, where like, if everything was just
left the way that it is, there's going to be
very little remnants of that we even existed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
So it's already pretty close to that. At Chernobyl now,
I mean, it's already pretty close to that. And in
any I mean look at Detroit. Look at some of
the neighborhoods in Detroit. They're just grown over with trees
and it looks like something from the last of us
and that's only been a few decades.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Left if everybody were to be wiped off from the
face of the planet right now, let's say no nuclear one,
but we just all disappeared, We're just all gone. What
do you think that things are going to look like
in two hundred years?

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Well, see, this is what you're.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Going to look like in a thousand years, and then
quadruple that, what is it going to look like in
one hundred thousand years.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Here's those pictures of the Turkish underground carved kind of
I guess you could call it a city. I think
many people do classified as a city, Darren Couu, And
it makes me think of I think I have pictures
of the g can here in Tokyo. I'm sure you've
seen this too, writer. Look at this. They call this

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the temple, and they built this under the city of
Tokyo without anybody really knowing it. And it's not like
a conspiracy. It's a water flood prevention system. It transports
massive quantities of water. But they call that the temple.
And so if you I don't know what to think
of the situation in Turkey at the tunnels, but if

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you were to compare the two, I look at these
images and I think, okay, So just just for as
it just a thought experiment. So the world's destroyed, things
get buried, things get covered up, whatever happens, and we
go back and we find something in the future. Today
we find Darren Koyu and we look at it and

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we don't really know what it is. It's what we
call it a city. I mean, how much different does
that look than the temple the g cans in Tokyo.
It kind of has a similar feel to it to me.
For all we know, that could have been what it
I mean, I don't think that's what it was. It
has rooms. I'm just saying it could have been something
like that. We have no idea. So in the future,

(01:06:14):
when someone discovers this, they're going to think it's probably
a religious center, when it's really just a water transport
system to prevent flooding.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
We have that would probably that would probably be the
only thing that would survive in a cataclus.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
It probably would here in Japan if there was a
cataclysmic global event like that. This is probably one of
the few things that would survive. It's already underground, it's
already protected, and it would just be filled up and
maybe it would be discovered at some point one hundred thousand,
two thousand years ago or two hund thousand years in
the future. Rather so, I don't know those those kinds

(01:06:51):
of things as thought experiments make me question even some
of the alternative narratives about stuff like this. We just
we really don't I really don't know it. And maybe
in some ways it feels like we've taken a different
approach to the second half of tonight's show. But I
think that we can connect these things together because, like
I said, we were taught. I think we started talking

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about this writer because we were saying that all the
brilliant people in these programs were taken out and put
into the military or put into the even into the press,
like some of the listeners in the chat were saying,
but put into corporations, recruited into these businesses. And that's
why it feels like we're so behind in technology because

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everything is done underground, literally and figuratively and behind the scenes,
and in other parts of the world that's not necessarily
the case. And so we have we have a vast
amount of technological development that's probably quite literally under our feet,
well if you're in America, under your feet. And whatever

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the reason, whatever the purpose is, it might just a theory.
It might be a result of those special programs for
kids of recruiting those people generationally to be able to
construct and to build this stuff. And I don't again,
whatever the reason is, I don't know if it's war,
if it's natural disaster. It's possible that it's a natural disaster.

(01:08:18):
I mean, they keep estimating. There's another study that came
out I think it was back in twenty twenty three
where they estimate that there have been massive impacts on
planet Earth less than every hundred thousand years. I mean
they estimate now it's like it could be one or
two per one hundred thousand years, like we're probably overdue

(01:08:40):
for an impact, or we're close to being due for
an impact of like an earth changing, earth shattering, civilization
ending strike of something. And perhaps these people know that
and that's what for decades they've known it, so they've
built constructed this. I don't know if that is the case.
I'm just saying that's I guess that's a poser. It

(01:09:01):
also could just be people that think that they're far
superior to everybody else, like Voltech, that they want to
manage the end of the world, and so they've prepared
for it, whatever it is. I don't know. It's a speculation,
but I think it does connect to the Gifted Children
programs because I think those are the people probably involved
in constructing a lot of this stuff to some extent.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Well, that's what we got the Space Force, Ryan, That's
what we got the Space Force for. It's gonna take
out that asteroid, bro and knock that asteroid right off course.
I think that if any life altering, life changing catastrophe
ever happens, is going to be done on purpose. I
think they'll they'll do it on purpose. It'll be altered

(01:09:45):
to happen. I mean, have you read that Adam and
eve Bia document.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
No, I didn't. I know what it is, but I
don't know what to think of that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Yeah, that's a document by the CIA. They basically talks
about this huge cataclysm that's going to happen sometime in
the future and the only people that are going to
survive are going to be on the surface, will be
We'll have to be in Colorado around the Rocky Mountains.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
I'm sure people would would like me to say Denver Airport,
Denver Airport, Denver Airport, Denver Airport, Denver report. That gets
people excited. Well, that is that because of the height
the light of Denver.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
They believe that it's going to be a huge flood, tide,
a wave, tsunami, some kind of giant flood, sort of
like in the Day After Tomorrow, which is one of
my favorite Catastrophe Into the World movies, where a giant
flood comes through, wipes everything out and then there's a

(01:10:55):
huge freeze.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
We are reportedly, since twenty fifteen, were supposed to be
as a planet heading toward a miniature ice age. And
we're also report I mean, we're supposed to get a
close close call from apafas in the next ten years too,

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the early twenty thirties. I think it's like twenty twenty
thirty two. I should double check that. And I think
we're also supposed to see Apofus. Actually it's twenty twenty
nine roughly, and I think it's twenty thirty two. We're
supposed to go through a very dangerous part of the

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of the Solar System that has been associated with previous
cataclysmic events impacts from large objects. I can't imagine anything
else being able to create those kinds of tidal waves.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Will be a second electro Magnetti field where the Earth
is going to be in like in alignment with other
planets and is going to create another a secondary electro
magnete field.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
No, I'm not speaking of that. I'm talking about I
don't remember the name of the actual I think it's
an asteroid belt, but that in twenty thirty two there's
a relatively high chance, and that might also have to
do with Apophas. I think Apophas is supposed to come
by twice that there's a very high possibility that there's
an impact. I think it's like one in forty that

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there's a massive impact on Earth in the next forty.
I think it's four years, but then if it doesn't happen,
then it would happen in twenty thirty two, twenty thirty
three to thirty four, somewhere around there. I'm not an
expert on this, so these are just things that I've read,
but one in forty is a really really high chance
or really high possibility of something like that happening. In fact,

(01:12:57):
there was just a meteor that came down over Japan
two days ago. I think it wasn't a big fireball,
and that kind of stuff just happens, and I don't frankly,
I don't think that if something like this was going
to impact the Earth. I don't think that anybody would
ever be I don't think we'd be informed. I think
that they would have a knowledge of this, and I

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think that it would probably just be just be preserved
for a very select few. And I mean by the
time it hits, there's nothing that you can do about it.
It annihilates the planet in a matter of hours really,
so there's there's no reason to even inform people. I
don't know, it's just speculation, it's not something that really
it's not intended to scare people it's just I mean,

(01:13:40):
I don't know what other explanation they would have for
building such things twenty one trillion dollars of underground facilities.
Is that the Greenbrier didn't cost a trillion dollars. So
we're talking about US cities, We're talking about building an
entirely different country underground. What that could be used for
and what they have down there? I mean to help

(01:14:01):
I do. You're a good person to talk with this about.
Maybe a writer. Maybe those stories about Dulce and Area
fifty one and S two and S four and Nightmember,
Nightmare Hall, maybe all that stuff's true. Maybe maybe maybe
they are aliens. I don't know. That's what. What was
that movie A Captive State with John Goodman? Did you
see that?

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
And they had to build these massive underground cities for
the aliens because they couldn't live in our atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Yeah. And they had to go underneath the ocean to
communicate with the aliens.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Yep, yep, that's right. John Goodman took that. It was
like an elevator thing or I don't know what it was,
but he had to take that elevator down through the
and had to have like an atmospheric suit on a
breathing system because they couldn't breathe in the alien atmosphere.
And they worked behind the scenes. You never saw them,
they never made an appearance, but they controlled all the

(01:14:55):
governments because they had extremely advanced technology. You could fight them.
They were building all those underground cities. Tell you what
truth is stranger than fiction. It's very very interesting to
think about. Well, being an expective guy, but this stuff
is really interesting to me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Go ahead, sorry, I think that the cover story for
anything is aliens, right, Like, if there's any kind of
truth to underground bases and all that stuff, it's underground
military bases used for some kind of fall shorter experimentation,
doing these freaking AI human embryos and creating AI wombs

(01:15:42):
and making children and all that, which is really interesting
because that's kind of like what the Son of Sam.
I know, you're familiar with The Son of Sam. I
watched the new documentary on Netflix the other day, and well,
before I get into that, you know about the world's fars, right,

(01:16:05):
and the orphan trains, Like where did all these freaking
orphans come from? Why were there so many orphans running around?
Why were there so many babies in these freaking incubators,
and that you could buy a baby. You could literally
go to the World's Fair and buy a baby.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
I don't see. We've never talked about this, and I
would need to know additional context. But I don't think
that it's necessarily as strange as it might appear, because
you can already, if you have enough money today, you
can already do this. It's not maybe as public because
it's more for the wealthy, but you can go to

(01:16:45):
I think there are companies in China for sure. I'm
sure they're in the US too. You can pay to
have a baby designed. I mean they actually call them.
I can pull up the article they call them designer babies,
so you can essentially buy test Tube designer babies already today.
I mean these are stories from like ten years ago
too that I was reading about this, So I mean,

(01:17:08):
if we're talking about maybe lost technology, I mean, I
don't believe that everything we've learned about history is accurate.
It's very possible that something equivalent to this was happening
in those days as well. I mean, there's all sorts
of different stories about this. In fact, some people have
been jailed for doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Oh yeah, absolutely, but it's like, where did all these
babies come from? Why are there so many orphans, what
are they doing? Why are they all in these incubators.
And there was this whole network surrounding this kind of
stuff where people were told that their parents had died.
They were told their entire life that their real parents were,

(01:17:48):
that their real parents died, but they really didn't die.
And so it seems like a program that's like running,
like just.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Like parents that sometimes are told their kids died, but
the kids didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Die exactly, it's exactly right. But it seems like this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Program where okay, well we'll artificially create all of these kids,
will genetically engineer them, will crisper them up. You can
purchase these babies, but you have to tell them a
certain thing. You're obviously not their real parents, and if
you ever want to tell them that you're not their
real parents, you got to tell.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Them that their parents, their real parents, died.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
And it sounds like a program, like something that is
something very nefarious behind that. And that's what happened to
the son of Sam Killer now, regardless if you believe
that he's actually the one that did it, because there's
a lot of theories and conspiracies around it, but that's
what happened to him. He was told that his parents
had died. He got involved with this network in New

(01:18:54):
York of all these people, and he was like, I
want to find out about my mom. And he said.
The people asked them, oh, well, what happened to your mom,
and he said, well, she died. And then the people
that were doing the interview or whatever to figure out
about his parents just laughed and he said, why are

(01:19:15):
you laughing, And they said, we've all been told.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
That same story. I want you to look at this
actually took you off the screen. Here we go. I
want you to look at this writer. So this was
the like a year ago where they the Department of
Homeland Security estimated three hundred thousand immigrant children were missing.

(01:19:41):
That's just immigrant children, three hundred thousand. This is world
population review. This is a really small underestimate. But this
is for all fifty states. So just so far this year,
there have been twenty five thousand, five hundred and forty
four missing kids. Now, like with UFOs, this is just
my assessment. So if you have a different opinion, let

(01:20:02):
me hear it. But if you have, like the UFO subject,
if you sit there and try to explain away what's
actually happening here, you have Most of the time, when
kids go missing or when kids are kidnapped, they're usually
with people that they know. They're with parents, they're with
an uncle, they're with a cousin, there was somebody that
they know a lot of. I mean, because you consider

(01:20:23):
kidnapping cases to also be when you know, maybe the
father or the mother takes the child when they're not
legally supposed to, that's considered kidnapping. Know that the kid
doesn't disappear, they're with a parent, but it's just it's
still called kidnapping. You take them across state lines. So
when you sit there and you go through all of
the Okay, that's an airplane, that's swamp gas, that kind

(01:20:45):
of stuff, which I think that's a joke. But when
you go through all that stuff, you do get a
handful of cases, and in this case, probably tens of
thousands of cases that are not explainable. Same thing with
people missing in the woods. Yet, it's very easy to
go missing in the woods, but it's usually not the
case where you go missing in one place and within
a short period of time, they find you three hundred

(01:21:06):
miles away, or they find a kid. There's a case
in the Carolina's a couple of years ago where this
kid went missing from the backyard around other people. It
just vanished, and then they found him. They looked for
his remember the story. They looked for him for three days,
freezing rain. There was even I think minor flooding, freezing rain,

(01:21:27):
freezing temperatures, and the kid not only survived, but it
was like nothing had even happened to him. He was
tangled up in a bush in outside the fence of
where the property was in the woods. But they had police,
they had family, They looked for this kid. They looked
throughout the whole area and could not find him. I mean,

(01:21:49):
that might that's a whole other subject. But I guess
the point of what I'm getting at here, other than
that there's a lot of different reasons for why these
things might happen, is that when if you're talking about
orphan trains, the context of that is kind of like
you know, World War Two and the stories of gulags
or concentration camps. Most of the time we're talking about

(01:22:12):
estimated numbers, and we're also talking about a lot of
times we just see pictures and if you see a
picture of a bunch of kids, or you see a
picture what we call the orphan trains or whatever the
case might be, once you verify the pictures real, you know.
I think the difference between a few cases of that
and then the hundreds of thousands of people that go
missing for other reasons, I think that there's probably a

(01:22:35):
logical This is just my assessment. I think there's probably
a logical reasoning, a logical explanation for those things that
are not necessarily part of some larger conspiracy. And again,
I think that because today in the modern world where
we track everything, everything is tracked. I mean, there are
close to half a million just in the US immigrant

(01:22:57):
and people that are citizens kids that go miss and
that's today, and you don't see them on orphan trains,
you don't see them in these programs. Things go underground.
I think we're just so in my opinion, I think
we're just so used to seeing things like we have
access to so much information that if we don't see
it directly, it must be part of some larger conspiracy,

(01:23:18):
or if we don't, we don't know the context of
something from the past. Because we just learned it, it
must be part of some larger conspiracy. I'm not saying
it's not. I just think that when you compare it
to the number of people that go missing today, which
is far more than what missing in the past, or
people that were orphaned or whatever the case was, there's
I think there's probably a rational, logical, bizarre reason for that.

(01:23:41):
That's just my assessment, but go ahead, please.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Yeah, I think that even the stranger ones is the
people that go missing and disappear in the forest and
the people are looking for them for a really long time,
and then their remains are found where they had been
searched for for Yes, that that's really really weird. And
some of the survivors from the missing for one one,

(01:24:08):
and some of the most interesting ones, like some of
the kids that has survived it, how really interesting stories.
There's one of this kid that went missing for a
while and said that his dead grandma took him into

(01:24:30):
an underground facility. We had like all these weapons and
all this stuff, and like there was like robots and
stuff down there and she stayed with them. Yeah, that
one's wild. Then there's a h another one of a
kid that his grandma heard him like in the distance,

(01:24:52):
and he was missing for like a really long time,
and then he was just he was found in like
a cave that was like laying down on like a
bunch of leaves. He said that there was like a
like a big hairy man that helped him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
That I remember that, and there's a story similar to
that back in the eighteen hundreds. I forget the girl's name,
maybe Mary or something, but she said that something. I
mean that was one hundred, one hundred years plus ago,
and she said something very similar. You know, some large
hairy type, maybe a bigfoot type creature looked after I
think the kid in Carolina said something similar to that too.
In fact, let me if I can find that. Yeah, yeah,

(01:25:29):
here it is. I just found it. This is I'll
bring this up on the screen. Let's see if I
can find the Actually that article is not loading. Yeah,
So the kid's name was it was Casey Hathaway. And
he said something maybe that's maybe that's what you're referring to,
or it's a separate story. Casey Hathaway claims friendly bear,

(01:25:53):
A friendly bear looked after him. Yes, this is the
kid that was found tangled in like a bush, but
he said that the bear took care of him. It's
almost like a bigfoot type thing I found also. So
this is from the National Council for Adoption, just to
provide some context to the orphan trains, which they say
was like it was like a welfare program, right, the

(01:26:15):
orphan trains to transport kids from crowded cities to foster homes.
That's what they claim that it is. But I'm just
trying to be logical about this. So this is today,
This is modern data. The historical data, I'm sure it's
a lot more difficult to come by, but the National
Council for Adoption estimates there are three hundred and forty

(01:26:36):
three thousand, seventy seven children in care and that's just
legal foster care trying to get kids adopted. That's over
a quarter of a million kids. So I mean, just
think about that. If you were to take a port
just a tiny percentage of those kids and you were
to move them by train, which we wouldn't do today

(01:26:58):
because we have would fly them probably or bust them.
But if you would have put them on a train
and take some pictures of that, you could come up
with the same type of imagery as these as these
orphan trains, you could come up with the same idea
that without contacts, like, oh, there's some larger conspiracy here.
But today we have over quarter million kids that are

(01:27:18):
an orphan, that are orphans. I'm just again, I'm trying
to bring some some reasoning to this, but I'm also right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
But the thing is is orphan means that you don't
have a mother or a father. That's what an orphan means. Yes,
these people that are in foster care doesn't mean that
their orphans. It means that they were either taken away
they were unruly kids and unruly childs. They were taken away.

Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
From their parents.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Doesn't mean that their parents, that they don't have parents,
or their parents are as orphans. Something completely different. And
that brings up another thing. The teen behavioral modification camps
that started in Utah, Okay. That's a very real thing.
Kidnapping kids in the middle of the night. Their parents

(01:28:11):
paid these companies large sums of money to come and
kidnap their kid out of their bed in the middle
of the night, throw handcuffs on them, throw them into
the to the back of a black as suv and
take them to one of these teen behavioral modification schools.
And that started in Utah. It was a camp, but

(01:28:32):
there's a documentary about it on Netflix. It's called Hell Camp.
That's kind of where it started. And then it evolved
out of that and then became like boarding schools and
like these schools in like Upstate New York and Ivy
Ridge and Provo Canyon, which Paris Hilton went to in
Utah as well. It's it's a teen behavioral modification and

(01:28:53):
it seems like that it's also m k Ultra as well.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Like you would probably go, I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Now, I'm just saying that they would traumatize them and
make them do things they would like conform them to
like well, and they were locked down. They weren't able
to leave there. And a lot of them were there
until they were eighteen years old, until they and they
got a fake diploma. Their diplomas weren't even real, they
were fake diplomas. So they were there. They would learn

(01:29:25):
from a computer seven days a week. There were no teachers.
They would do everything. They would learn everything from a computer.
Then whenever they were getting ready to graduate, then they
could leave once they turned eighteen, they were you know,
officially an adult, and they wouldn't be able to be
held there against their will anymore because they're an adult.
Then they would be given a diploma that wasn't even

(01:29:46):
a real diploma. It's so sickening.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
That is so bizarre. I've heard about that. Maybe you
told me about that one time. I was also, so
I looked up. You're right, there's a obviously there's a
diference between orphans and people in the foster care system.
But there's an estimate in the US. We just have
an estimate. We don't know for sure, but it's like
two point I think it's two point one million according

(01:30:11):
to Nature Medicine and twenty twenty one two point let
me double check this. Two point nine million orphans in
the US. So there's actually more orphans than there are
kids in the foster care system. There are a lot
of orphans today too. Plus, I mean, I don't know.
You got to think about the time period in which
that orphan trained thing was happening. If we're talking about
the mid eighteen hundreds to the early nineteen hundreds, you're

(01:30:32):
talking about a time when we still had not perfected
we haven't even done it today, but perfected hygiene and
you know, sanitation. So and people worked ridiculous hours. Kids
worked in factories, and parents didn't always come home from factories,
and so a lot of kids might have been orphaned
because their parents died at Ork or died in terrible conditions.

(01:30:55):
I mean, you look at like New My god, if
you look at New York, London was worse. But if
you look New York in the eighteen hundreds and the
early nineteen hundreds, I mean it was a shanty town.
People literally lived in like sewage ridden basements. There's like
sewage on the floor, it's disgusting. Like a family of
fifteen twenty people extended family would share one toilet that

(01:31:17):
didn't even flush half the time. So that could also
contribute to why there were so many orphans. There's so
many people that I'm just trying to look at it
from a different point of view, is all that I'm saying.
But the other stuff that you're adding, I agree with you.
And that's the reason we had, you know, the show
set up for tonight, because a lot of people do
get drawn into those types of experiments and programs, and

(01:31:38):
I think it just makes logical sense that those kinds
of things exist because of what we do publicly to kids,
what we do publicly to adults. Why wouldn't this stuff
be done behind the scenes. Anyway, I just I don't personally,
I don't buy the orphan train conspiracy, whatever that might be.

(01:31:59):
But I just I wanted to add that we could
talk about the world's fair stuff because I have some
perspectives on that, But anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
No, It's just interesting that no one ever has figured
out where the kids came from, Like where did the
babies come from? Why were there so many babies, why
were they all in incubators? And why could you buy
a baby? And why did people act like they had
never seen a baby before in their lives. A very
strange amount of things that are going on there. And
I'm not saying that there is any conspiracies about it,

(01:32:27):
but if you're talking about a repopulation of the world
after a global cataclysm, that's what you would do. You
would put babies out for sale because you needed to
repopulate the world and give babies, And there would be
all these orphans right that came from wherever, And if

(01:32:50):
you look at like the whole thing of the you know,
the Sumerian kings list and how it was all you know,
after a big cataclysm, they would you know, ordaining a
person and they would bring back down the knowledge, you know.
I mean, maybe that's not something that's like literal. Maybe
that's meaning like a receding of the population. Maybe that's

(01:33:12):
not like like knowledge like we think that it means.
Maybe it's like an actual receding of people because they've
all died, whether that be a cataclysm, a sickness or whatever,
they were just all wiped out and then the population
needed to be reseated again. It's interesting. I'm not saying
that it's fact or even that I believe it. I

(01:33:34):
just think that it's an interesting theory in an interesting
proposition to have but one percent the kidnapping the children
has happened. It's you know, that was a part of
the team behavioral modification camps and the schools that is real,
which is a part of the Institute TV series in

(01:33:55):
on MGM plus. Like that's how it opens up. Is
a kid being kidnapped out of his bed at his
parents' house. That's verifiable. We have the document that I
just showed you that. You know, it's kind of speculation
whether the sun Street document, whether that has to do
with you know, SRI actually testing kids. We have what

(01:34:19):
people are being triggered with, which is the voice of
the Monroe Institute Gatewight Gateway tapes, the Hemi sync tapes.
That is verifiable. How people are remembering the Gateway Hemi
sync tapes in public school Who knows how did that happen?
Did the SRI have a contract with the Monroe Institute,
The Monroe Institute have a contract with the government, which

(01:34:42):
then in turn would be a contract with the public
schools and the education system. I mean, that would be
the way to do it. You would test these kids
in a public setting. You would tell their parents that
they were part of some sort of that they're very
special or they're very stupid. Depending on what state that
you're in, and depending on the conditions and the way
that they were raised, the type of trauma that they

(01:35:03):
would have, you would give a different explanation depending on
where in the country you're raised and born and where
you live. Then it would bring that. Then that way
you can get all the smart kids and the people
that could make any great, large impact out of the
out from keeping any kind of innovation, So then you

(01:35:25):
would have them working for you, and you would be
able to stifle any kind of real change that could
possibly be made in the future. And that's just one
level to it. That's just one layer to the whole thing.
There's many other layers to it that I haven't quite
nailed down yet, but that's my first one. Because several
people like I mentioned that I've talked to a Chris

(01:35:50):
christn what's up? Why does writer look like he's in
the basement, always always in the basement routs because I
have I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Have any lights on bunkers.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
I mean, I've been in the seven trillion dollar made
underground bunkers that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
They cost twenty one dollars, not twenty one trillion, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Twenty one abouteen hunder bucks, about fifty.

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Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
You can find me on Reason by Joans on YouTube
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my latest documentary, Clockwork Shining also on those same platforms,
and my new documentary Psychic Agent, The Real Life Stranger

(01:38:22):
Things I am currently working on. I'm in filming production,
so hopefully that will be released before the end of
the year.