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December 4, 2025 68 mins
The internet is buzzing — MrBeast and the Rockefeller Foundation just teamed up, and no one can stop talking about it. In this explosive deep dive, we reveal what sparked the collaboration, why it surprised so many people, and how it could reshape the future of philanthropy and creator power on a global scale. From behind-the-scenes motives to public controversy and online theories, this video breaks down everything you need to know about one of the most unexpected partnerships of the year.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ideological subversion is the slow process which we call either
ideological subversion or active measures, active limrocreatia in the language
of the KGB, or psychological warfare. What it basically means
is to change the perception of reality of every American

(00:21):
to such an extent that, despite of the abundance of information,
no one is able to come to sensible conclusions. In
the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community, and
their country.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
You just have to flood a country's public square with
enough law sewage. You just have to raise enough questions,
spread enough dirt, plant enough conspiracy theorizing that citizens no longer.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Know what to change. In my line of work, you
got to keep repeating things over and over and over
again for the truth to sink in it a catapult
the propaganda.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
This is the kind of thing that we see done
in media. This is the kind of thing we see
done in politics. This is the kind of thing we
see done in pretty much every sector in level of society.
We see the psychological tactics that the CIA has used,
the Rockefeller Foundation has used, the Beast has used, a
lot of it has to do with sex and sexual trauma.

(01:29):
We see those tactics being employed because they've been perfected.
I believe on and unsuspecting, for the most part, unsuspecting population,
not just in the United States but globally. So when
I see a story like mister Beast partners with Rockefeller Foundation,
I'm not the only one who thinks that's suspicious. I'm
not the only one who thinks also, to be objective.

(01:53):
You got a guy who's extremely famous, a guy who
has been known on the internet for a very very
long time. He is the world's number one creator. Why
wouldn't the Rockefeller Foundation partner with someone like this? And
considering that there are some people, a very small handful
of people that have looked into the background of mister
Beast and the people that and the groups that finance

(02:15):
and fund his I guess you could call it a
movement organization. I mean, we're talking hundreds of millions and
millions of billions of dollars. We're talking money that is
kind of hard to fathom, money that is kind of
hard to grasp to understand. Mister Beast makes about seven

(02:38):
hundred million dollars a year, and you might wonder where
all of that money comes from. A lot of people
think oh, he just made some money on YouTube. I
mean that means YouTube made three hundred million and he
made about a billion. Because they collect about thirty percent.
I believe it is. Mister Beast brings in about seven
hundred million dollars a year. He's been criticized for giving

(03:03):
very little to charity. He's also been propped up for
giving a lot of money to charity. It's all pr
and of course, anytime someone like this is very very
popular and very very well known and very wealthy, public
conspiracy theorists get suspicious. Understandably, so people get suspicious, especially

(03:25):
if they've made a YouTube channel and they can't get
anybody to watch their videos, and then they see mister
Beast making all this money, and he must work for
the FEDS. People have accused me of working for the FEDS.
People have accused me of working for the FBI or
the CIA, utterly absurd, baseless, ridiculous claims. But because someone
else does better than you, they must be working for

(03:46):
the FEDS. This is something that I think needs to
be said, because this is an accusation that gets leveled
against pretty much anybody on the Internet who's doing better
than you in regard to their popularity, and mister Beast
an example of this. He's probably the best example of this.
He's going to, naturally, because of his position, his fame,

(04:07):
and as well, he's naturally going to be an easy
target for those kinds of accusations. So I want to
be very clear that that's not why I am talking
about mister Beast tonight on the show. I'm not talking
about him because he's making billions of dollars or because
he's working with the Rockefeller Foundation and he's a philanthropist
and he's a good guy. I'm talking about him because

(04:27):
I could acknowledge and separate the fact that there are
people who are delusional who think that everybody on the
Internet is a fed, and then there is legitimate concern
for the background of the Rockefeller Foundation. Who mister Beast is,
what he is, what he promotes, the money that is
involved in the stuff that he does. And there's a

(04:52):
huge difference between someone working directly or indirectly with an
agency or an organization to sway public opinion and people
that are just idiots on the Internet and they don't
don't be fooled. You know, people talk about the dead
Internet theory. They say, well, in half the internet's dead
and most of its bots, and a lot of it's

(05:14):
you know, federal agencies, and yeah, there's a lot of that,
but there's equally a very large number of people who
are just idiots and have no idea what they're talking about.
And because they have, you know, a record button, they
have a microphone, they can say whatever they want. And
if you know how to manipulate search engines and you
know how to get your content out there, you can

(05:35):
have nothing to say, but you can become very famous
and popular because you know what buttons to push, or
you know how to game the system, or you know
how to pay a lot of money for advertising. There's
a lot of content out there like that. So that's
that's how I and that's my initial you know, analysis
and thought of a of a creator. Let's say, as

(05:58):
they call him, like mister Beast. He's into philanthropy. His
charitable organization is called Beast Philanthropy. And again his name
is Jimmy Donaldson. I think everybody knows this guy. Anytime
I've seen him, I've always thought that he had one
of those weird looks or one of those weird smiles

(06:20):
on his face, you know, not because again he's rich
or famous or something like that, just because I don't know,
he just has that look. And I'm not the only
one who says this or thinks this. A lot of
people think this. You look at this guy and you're thinking,
there's just something off about him. Maybe there's not. I

(06:40):
don't know, maybe there's not something off about him, but
you can usually tell when you look at somebody. You
look at a mister beast and this is purely subjective,
purely subjective. But you look at mister beast and you
look at that face, and you compare it to say,
I don't know, you compare it to a David Rockefeller,
you compare it to you compare it to a Henry Kissinger.

(07:05):
People that you look at and you're like, I don't
know if I can trust you. I don't know if
I can trust this person. Purely subjective. But maybe maybe
it's not so purely subjective. Maybe there is a hint
of objective pollutant in it, because it is kind of true,
you know, like when a woman is pregnant, she radiates,

(07:28):
when a woman is ovulating, she radiates kind of a light,
a glow. It could be hormones, it could think. I
mean hormones in the sense of like or pheromones that
you smell, and you see, this woman is more attractive
when she's ovulating or she's got new life inside of her,
so she's radiating outward. Its definitely a result of hormonal

(07:49):
changes and things like that. Then you look at people
that do really bad things and you look at like
David Rockefeller and you think, yeah, I don't know if
that's a good guy. And he was old. Rockefeller was
very very old, right, But that doesn't mean that he
doesn't look it doesn't look evil, even in his younger days.

(08:12):
There's a look in his eyes too, there's a similar
kind of a look like they're trying to smile, but
they don't really know how to smile. Again, you know,
largely subjective, but there's a hint of objective pollutant in
there somewhere. So this is mister Beast and this is
what he does. He is a very famous quote content creator.

(08:34):
I think most of you know that. I think it
goes without saying. We can pull up on YouTube mister
Beast and you can see his hundreds of millions billions
of views at pretty much any video that he publishes
tens of millions of views, including doing some very risky
stunts like putting people in burning buildings and seeing if

(08:58):
they can escape, going into old nuclear bunkers, things like that.
So again, I know that most of you know that,
but we have to form kind of a base foundation
for for the show, especially for people who don't know
about this. This video that you see on your screen
right now, and if you can't see it because you're

(09:19):
listening in the audio archive, this is mister Beast alongside
of the man who runs the Rockefeller Foundation, and they
are speaking about the partnership that they have. Let's listen

(09:41):
to this video. Let's see what this partnership is all about.
With the head of the Rockefeller I'm.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Roshaw, President of the Rockefeller Foundation. I'm here today with
Jimmy Donaldson, better known.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
As and the video Chat, and we are together the
let Me go go back because the video spellar Foundation.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
I'm here today with Jimmy Donaldson, better known as it
Froze again, and we are together the Rockfeller Foundation and
mister Beast launching a great new partnership together.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
Yes, we're going to try to inspire the youth all
around the world. Change lots a lot, lots of big
projects coming up. We'll tell you more about it in
the future. But I'm honored to be working with the
Rock Piller Foundation and let's change the world. And we're
excited to work with Jimmy and his awesome team.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
They are already helping kids in Africa and around the planet.
We're going to take that to the next level together,
and we couldn't be more excited.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
Oh yeah, very very excited. The Rockefeller Foundation loves helping children.
I few, we're not aware of that. They really like
helping kids. They don't have any shady past whatsoever, not
at all. They're really, really good people at the Rockefeller Foundation.
Remember when the White House paid under the Bided administration

(10:54):
influencers for COVID propaganda White House unless fifty TikTok online
users or vaccine promotion. Remember when the Trump White House,
I'll pull this up had mega influencer bots that went
out there and defended everything, including Jeffrey Epstein. AI bought

(11:22):
network of the Trump administration. Okay, we can't trust the
Rolling Stone though or NBC News. Okay, well, then I
guess you can't trust business insider when they reported that
the Biden administration did pretty much the same thing. Very
little of what you see or hear is honest or
in good faith. Most of it, much of it is

(11:43):
pushed by these players. I am going to now remove
our screen share and I will bring up the next
selection of stories as we bring on our guest here
in just a moment. Our guest tonight is writer from
Raised by Giants. You can find him on YouTube. You

(12:04):
can also find Rider on a number of episodes of
TST Radio over the years. Rider and I have been
friends and colleagues for several years, and you can find
Rider Lee's various documentaries. I'll let him mention those. You
can find those various documentaries on Amazon Prime. If I
have that correct, he can correct me if I'm wrong,

(12:25):
including JFKX and Well, a really great documentary about psychological
operations in the Shining. I know he's also working on
another documentary about remote viewing. And a lot of this
ties in with our subject tonight, including what you see
on your screen right now. Back in twenty twenty two,
the US military Fort Bragg syop unit recruitment video Remember

(12:52):
that ghost in the machine, And then there was a
ghost in the machine recruitment video in twenty twenty four
A part two and now, which is what inspired Rider
and I to start talking and I prepared tonight's show.
Was the Fort Bragg's Psychological Warfare Group posting another video
this year, just a few days ago, another psychological operations

(13:16):
quote recruitment video. We'll look into that and the connections.
All of that has to the Central Intelligence Agency and
there behavioral sciences, which also includes the Kupbark Counterintelligence Interrogation
Report from nineteen sixty three. And if you read that,
you can find pretty much all the techniques and the

(13:38):
tactics that are now employed against the American public or
just I guess civilians anywhere you look in the world.
So let's bring Rider Lee onto the show. I know
he's been waiting patiently behind the scenes behind the stage. Ryder,
thank you for joining me on the show tonight, my friend, Hello, howdy,
welcome to the show. How are you.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
I am doing great, Ryan, Thanks so much for having
me on. Really appreciate her brother. Always an honor and
a privilege being on the Secret Teachings and having really
great conversations with you.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I love having you on too, especially because Over the years,
you've increased your knowledge and your understanding of the things
that we're talking about tonight, like I have, and you've
been working to quite literally document these things in documentaries.
You have JFKX. You have your Shining documentary, which I thought,
as I've told my audience before, I know Clyde Lewis

(14:34):
give you major props on this too. It's an amazing
documentary and it's a very unique look at the Shining
and it's probably something people have not watched it or
heard the ideas. It's something that is really kind of
mind blowing. The psychological intelligence apparatus behind that, especially when
we looked at Lookout Mountain and the connections the Laurel

(14:55):
Canyon and all of this. But you know your research,
your work connects to I think everything I've been discussing tonight,
from the Rockefeller Foundation, mister beast Alistair Crowley, to Wexner Foundation,
to the Tavistock Institute, it's all part of the same
psychological beast. I think your thoughts, your views, your opinions,
I'll give you the floor.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
Absolutely. I mean the Rockefeller Foundation, it was involved in
a lot of stuff. They've had their hands in a
lot of things public health, scientific, community, agriculture, the pushers
of the green initiative, global warming, the educational system. They
had their hand in creating vaccines John Hopkins, Harvard and

(15:39):
more specifically influenza vaccines, polio, measles, malaria, which we know
that none of those really cured anything. That just changed
the definitions of what those diseases and viruses were. You
can look into doctor Suzanne Humphreys for more information on that.

(16:01):
And of course, at least we forget the Rockefeller Foundation
was also responsible for our schools and the indoctrination systems
and you know, standardized grade levels. You know, they would
do all kinds of stuff like compulsory schooling, centralized state
level control. You know, they would shift away from small,

(16:23):
more localized schooling and like one on one type of
schooling to more state wide schooling. Uh. They created the
state Department of Education, They did the certification requirements for schools,
they did they introduced the first uniform curriculum across states,

(16:44):
and they also introduced a very hea heavy indoctrination into
the obedience of law. You know, you're you know, don't
question your leaders, you know, don't question your superiors they
know best, you know. And that's just to name a
few things of how they created the school curriculum. And

(17:07):
the big one of that, which a lot of people
often cite, was from Frederick Taylor Gates, not Bill Gates,
Frederick Taylor Gates, which was involved with the Rockefeller Foundation,
and this is a quote from him, which was wanting
schools that would produce workers rather than independent psychological thinkers,

(17:34):
which is a heck of a quote there. But it
wasn't only just public schools. They also did this with
colleges as well, such as Columbia, Yelle, Harvard. So out
of all of the foundations and the companies that mister
Beast could have partnered with, he goes with the Rockefeller Foundation, right,

(17:56):
that's done so much to help everyone globally. Ryan, They've
they've done so much. They've helped people in South Africa,
like he mentioned in the video with mister Beast, you know,
they've they've really helped out a lot. And I believe
that they've they have our best interest, you know. But

(18:16):
it's just interesting how mister Beast kind of went from
this self made self, you know, pulling himself up by
his bootstraps and doing all this great investment stuff. Could
you just mention that the White House had paid a
bunch of people. I'm pretty sure that mister Beast was

(18:37):
one of those people that got paid by the Pentagon
or by the White House. I can't remember what it
was for, but I think it was for some kind
of content creation. I would have to go back and
look at the episode that I did on Mister Beasts
surrounding his TV show on Hulu, because there was this
period of time where people all over the Internet was

(18:58):
saying that mister Beast was the anti Christ. Do you
remember this?

Speaker 4 (19:02):
I do remember that yet, probably just because of the
name and maybe a hand gesture.

Speaker 7 (19:07):
And there was this really weird thing with a TV
show that he did on Hulu that was like a
series where he was going to give away a million dollars.
They had this like religious guy on there. There was
like heavily religious that would pray before he did everything.
There was this one point in the show where he
had to make a decision to let a bunch of

(19:30):
people go on to the next stage of the competition,
so he was basically the chooser, so he got on
his knees. He made it like this giant beard. They
referred to him like as like the Jesus figure of
the show because he kind of used heavily Christian and
he got on his knees and he prayed, he prayed
to God, and that was the cliffinger of that episode

(19:51):
of who he was going to pick as his disciples
to move on to the next phase of the competition.
And it was all around this time of when people
were like, yeah, mister Beast is the anti Christ. He's
which everyone has been called the anti Christ. I think
at one point in time, Peter Thiel is now the
anti Christ. Trump has been called the anti Christ. Everyone

(20:12):
that has had any kind of popularity has been called
the anti Christ. I mean, even Joe Rogan has been
called the reincarnation of Alistair Crowley. Have you heard that.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
One, of course, yeah, because he's bald, right, it looks
like him. I've heard that one, yes, yeah.

Speaker 7 (20:28):
So it's just interesting how mister Beast decided to partner
with the Rockefeller Foundation. I mean, there's hundreds of other
organizations and foundations that he could have partnered with, but
he chose this one that has the best interest in

(20:49):
everyone's heart. Ryan. So it's just and That's the thing
is like they want to make him out to be
like this guy like started from the bottom, you know,
and did all this stuff and would just give things away,
give money away. That's how we started out, was on
social media and like Facebook and stuff. That's how I
first ran into some of his content was on Facebook

(21:11):
reels where he would just walk into a McDonald's and
have someone do a challenge and then give them like
three to five thousand dollars, like off of the rit
you know, it's like.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
You know what reminds me of It reminds me of
Black Mirror. There's something Black Mirrory about him. I don't
know if that makes sense. I know, you watch that
show something that just seems like it's it's not real.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
I think you described it perfectly in this in the
beginning of the show when he's when you said that
he's looking like he's trying to smile. That's that's a
perfect analytical representation that you could give. That's the way
that he looks all the time. It looks like he's
trying to smile. And that's that eurie type of feeling

(21:54):
that a lot of people have, just like the Rockefellers,
you know, Alistair Crawley has got that type of look
about him as well, like like he's got a secret
or that he's hiding on back something, or that you know,
there's something more going on than what meets the eye,
like very mysterious type of oblique type of face that

(22:18):
he has on all the time, which is you know,
I don't know exactly what that is, which is probably
what leads people to think that he's the Antichrist.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well, maybe he's a a personification or possessed by the
spirit of the Antichrist. I mean, this is like what
I've said with Les Wexner. You look at Less Wexner
and he literally says that he's possessed by a demon.
It's not metaphoric, it's not figurative, it's not someone else's opinion.

(22:48):
He literally says he's possessed by a demon, and that
through this demon, that's how he's gotten wealthy, and through
that wealth, through the Wexner Foundation, that how he's funded
all of these movements that are just like what the
Tavistock Institute promotes, just like what the Rockefeller Foundation promotes,

(23:10):
just like what all of the other philanthropists and NGOs
and united groups and nations and we love people and
want to help you. It same thing everybody promotes. So
I mean, what are the connections to That is what
I started thinking. And then you look at the history
of Aleister Crowley, who was inspiration for Alfred Kinsey, who

(23:33):
worked for the Rockefeller Foundation in promoting what amounted to
sexual degeneracy and perversity, which then takes us to the
work of people like Magnus Hirschfield who did the exact
same thing in Germany, and it was connected to left
wing progressivism, which is precisely what you see today. As
I said earlier, the world's first trans clinic was in Germany.

(23:56):
In fact, there was just a story that came out
the other day about Les Wexner being in the the
Epstein estate documents. I can show you that on the screen,
which brings the Epstein's story into the equation because Epstein,
it wasn't just Epstein, it was a network of intelligence agencies,
the same ones that when the CIA got caught back

(24:16):
in what was it the sixties, funding coups and funding
the undermining like jury. Besmanov said, the demoralization to stabilization
of countries and other things around the world. They got
caught doing that, so then they started dumping money into
organizations and foundations, which included DOT the Rockefeller Foundation. And

(24:41):
I can actually show you. I don't know if you've
seen this document. I'm assume that you have or it's
not surprising to you. Here's a document from the Central
Intelligence Agency. You can see this on your screen. Foundations
support for research or foundation support for research in the
field of the behavioral science? What is behavioral science? Psychology?

(25:05):
And if you scroll down through this list, what do
you find other than the Ford Foundation? You find the
Rockefeller Foundation. So the CIA was financing the Rockefeller Foundation
to carry out their work. And then we can add
one more thing to that equation. Here is an article

(25:26):
from the New York Times back in the eighties. And
if you scroll down in this article, the article is
called Missionaries for Democracy, US AID for Global Pluralism. If
you scroll down in this article, you can find a
really interesting little piece here. So they scroll down the

(25:47):
article and find it. Here's the section here. I'm going
to read this to you. It says, from covert to
overt evolution of policy, we should not have to do
this kind of work covertly said Carl Kershman, president of
the Endowment, who was an aide to Jean J. Kirkpatrick
when she was the Chief United States Delegate to the UN.

(26:09):
It would be terrible for democratic groups around the world
to see or to be seen as subsidized by the CIA.
We saw that in the sixties and that's why it
has been discontinued. We have not had the capability of
doing this, and that's why the Endowment was created. So
the CIA was prevented from doing their work, and so

(26:31):
they started financing This is their own records. They started
financing the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, et cetera.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
Private government contractors. I mean, that's how it's always when
that's all went with MK Ultra, That's exactly what they did.
Once they kind of wist, kind of got blown on
that in nineteen seventy five, they were like, Okay, well,
how do we, you know, continue this research. I know,
we'll just contract this out to government contractors and private

(27:01):
organizations and different companies that they can do the research
for us. And then that's whenever it gets shipped in
the Canada.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (27:10):
Called Ravens Craig and he created the Psychic Driving So
the deep patterning, the psychic driving, and then like it's
pretty much like to erase your normal thinking patterns, which
is the depatterning, and then bad you drugs and then
psychically drive you to make you believe something happened or

(27:34):
make you not believe something happening. Can go either way, right,
and that's done through repeated visual stimulus or repeated audio messages.
It works in both of those ways. So you can
think about that and just take you know, VR goggles.
We know that the military has been using VR to

(27:57):
train their people, you seeing video games and VR for
a really really long time. They've been doing that forever,
like video simulations of blowing up tanks, killing people. They
will literally have a gun that is just as heavy
as a real gun and have a simulation of targets

(28:22):
and have you shoot those targets. They've been doing that
for a really long time along with video games and VR.
So now you think of that in the context of
an MK ultra style program. If you depattern the person,
which is normally done through torture, so you would torture
them to a degree to where they lose all of

(28:44):
their cognitive abilities and critical thinking. Then you drug them
and then you could put a freaking VR goggles over
them and make them believe that any scenario is essentially real,
programmed their mind to make them believe that extraterrestrials are real,

(29:07):
whatever alien abductions are real, which it comes into another thing.
I don't want to get on the alien We've done
UFOs and aliens into the ground here. But there was
this book that was written by this gentleman name Walter
Boward Walter H. Baward in nineteen seventy eight called Operation

(29:32):
Mind Control that basically exposes the entire alien and abduction phenomenon,
where he wrote that the military would get these kids
dressed up in gray alien outfits and the military would
abduct whatever individual, said individual whoever they wanted to make

(29:57):
them believe that aliens had abducted them, and the kids
would act as aliens. They would have the set all
made up, you know, make it seem very realistic, and
then they would use these drugs in this weapon that
they refer to as like a stun gun, which has
been used in a lot of MK ultra programs, that

(30:21):
they can just hit you with a gun and knock
you out and makes you go into this like psychotic delusions,
like you've been drugged and then whenever you wake up,
it's like it was all like a big, huge blur.
And then he talks about how that these people will
later on, these memories will come back up in their

(30:43):
life later on, and they'll remember them as alien production experiments,
like that they were abducted by aliens. You know. So
if you can go that far, just like with the
NSA breaking into Paul Benowitz house and replacing his computer
with a they modified computer to make him believe that
he's in communication with aliens, if they will go that
far to pull off some sort of deception operation, you know,

(31:09):
then there's no extent to how far they'll go with
anything else.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Well look at this for example, so you know our
audience I think knows. But just for the record, the
definition of parapsychology is the study of alleged psychic phenomena.
That's a Wikipedia article. I don't trust them, so we
could go to like Psychology Today or Psyclopedia Britannica. But
basically parapsychology is defined as it's defined as the paranormal

(31:35):
or psychic phenomena. And here is CIA and behavioral Sciences,
their mind controlled drug experiments named Kultra. This is their
records that they released twenty twenty four. You could look
at that in a little bit and then look at
this back to the document we were looking at a
few minutes ago. Foundation support for Research CIA, and here's

(31:59):
the rock of Foundation, which included money into the work
of parapsychology. Assuming so you can see that parapsychology work
at the Rockefeller Foundation right there on the bottom of
your screen. And there's the Rockefeller Group getting money for
that grants to study parapsychology, which tells me that that

(32:26):
involves along with the you know, the study of gifted individuals.
You can see that at the Rockefeller Foundation. That tells
me that what you're saying is certainly backed up by
CIA records. That they're not saying fake alien abductions or
UFOs or something like this, but they're investing tremendous amounts
of money officially, just in this one document into studying

(32:47):
quote gifted individuals, and in the studying parapsychology, which is
the real true root basis of the TV show Stranger Things.
It's really based on these programs. Whether or not they
were successful, they still researched them and to what extent
or level they actually went to, Like with the Paul

(33:08):
Benowitz story, I'm not saying that's connected to the Rockefeller Foundation,
but like with Paul Benowitz, we don't know, but we
know that this stuff was for sure absolutely done.

Speaker 7 (33:18):
What year was this. They were studying parapsychology and the kids,
well not the kids, but the gifted individuals.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
This particular report was a proof for release in nineteen
ninety nine. So let's see the parapsychology work Rockefeller nineteen
fifty one. Gifted Children Rockefeller through Stanford University nineteen fifty one.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
This is really early on.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, this was very early on, and parapsychology was done
at Duke University. And again this is just one of
many many documents. But yes, this was too major.

Speaker 7 (33:54):
This is one hundred percent of legit. This is I
actually have this section in my latest documentary, Psycho Agent,
where this funding was going on from the It went
to Duke University, and went to Stanford, and went to Yale,
went to Boston and a few other places to study
parapsychology and psychic abilities and gifted individuals, which then later

(34:19):
on became known as remote viewing, and then the CIA
funded Stanford Research Institute in nineteen seventy two, which that
first program was called SCAN eight SCAN eight, which was
to determine if the parapsychology, if you know, this psychic ability,
actually is real, and if it is real, how can

(34:41):
it be used as a military effort? Can we use
this ability to spy on foreign countries and gather information?
And then it turned out that it well, I mean
what they found with people like Ingo Swan and Pat
Price in nineteen seventy two at Stanford Research Institute. And
then that's when Pat Price essentially broke into that Cold

(35:04):
War surveillance military based top secret military base in West
Virginia with his mind and got all that top secret information.
And that's the CIA funded SRI from that period of time,
and then they cut money in nineteen seventy five when
after Pat Price died and then Russell targ and how

(35:30):
put off them went to the Foreign Technology Division in
Ry Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio to get funding
from the Air Force to pick up where the CIA
had left off in two thousand and I mean not
two thousand and nineteen seventy five, and then they funded
it all the way up until nineteen eighty. Then in
nineteen seventy nine, the Air Force, well the Army Inscom

(35:55):
and DiiA had an interest in it, and then that's
whenever they funded their first program, which then began operations
in nineteen eighty, right after they had shut down that
small remote viewing unit at RYE. Patterson Air Force Base
in nineteen eighty, whenever they found the missing downed Russian
airplane in Africa. A lot of this is spelled out

(36:19):
in my new documentary that I'm working on, Psychic Agent.
The Real Life Stranger Things have dell Graph in it,
which was responsible. He was ahead of that remote viewing
unit at Ry Patterson Air Force Base. It was an
unofficial unit, but Rosemary Smith, which was a part of
that unit, was the person that found that down Russian

(36:43):
airplane that went missing in Africa. She gave them the
exact spot on the map where she saw where the
airplane was, and then they converted that into a coordinate
and then a team went to retrieve the airplane and
they found it. That's just a little bit of history

(37:03):
and a little bit of background of the remote viewing unit,
but also though mk Ultra is involved, because there is
not all. They were also studying parapsychology as well, because
they found out that trauma within people also activate these
dechicabilities within people. So it's kind of repressed in a

(37:27):
lot of people's mind, but whenever they go through that trauma,
then there all of a sudden, those abilities start to
come to the forefront of their mind. And that's where
you know, our documentary comes in about the Shining and
how a clockwork shining. That's where it kind of activates,
you know, through Danny's trauma of Jack abusing him and

(37:49):
breaking his arm. That's whenever he starts having these episodes,
is what they call it. In the beginning of the
movie The Shining, whenever the doctor comes to visit Windy
and Danny at their apartment in Boulder, Colorado, the doctor
asked Wendy and I was like, hey, when did he
first start having these types of episodes? And she said
it was right after Jack had come home really late

(38:10):
one night and Danny had spewed his papers and everything
all over the floor, and then Jack came in and
janked him up by the arm and injured Danny's arm.
Then he started having these episodes where displaying these psychic
abilities essentially, So that's telling you that drama is what

(38:31):
activates these abilities within people, and we're actually probably getting
ready to see I'm only a couple of episodes in
on the new It Welcomed to Dairy series on HBO,
but that has a tie into The Shining as well.
Dick Hollerin is actually in the It Welcomed to Dairy series,

(38:54):
which is a psychic guy in the Shining the communicates
to Danny in his mind and finds out Danny is
having a really bad time and then comes and then
Jack kills him with an axe. For anybody that's seen
The Shining, but there's a connection there too, and I'm
willing to bet that it somehow revolves around the traumatization

(39:17):
of people. And almost all of these remote viewers, like
Ingo Swan, one of the more famous remote viewers, said
that he would have out of body experiences all the
time whenever he was growing up, and that was due

(39:38):
to the trauma that he was enduring from other people
bullying him because he was gay. Okay, so he would
be out of his body all the time because of
the trauma that he was enduring, like, who cares if
you're gay. I don't give a shit. I don't care
if you're gay, whatever, it doesn't matter. But what is
important is that he had a lot of trauma growing up,

(40:01):
so that was that out of body experience that he
was having. And then that also gets into the Monroe
Institute and how they were trying to induce an out
of body experience through the HEMI sync mind tapes.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Well that's probably I'm sorry to cut you off.

Speaker 7 (40:16):
Go ahead, Well that's probably just a way to open
up your mind. Probably funded and I'm going to get
into it in my more recent documentary, but there's a
I think we talked about it on one of the
last shows that we did. People are remembering hearing these
gateway tapes in like public school as well, so it's

(40:37):
like it's a way to infiltrate into your mind without
actually having to really do any work. I think that
it's a a disharmonic frequency that these tapes actually are,
and it's like a it's a gateway, but not a
good gateway. It's a bad gateway. It's opening up a

(41:00):
backdoor in order for you to be more susceptible to
mind control.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
See that makes me think that what you're saying is
is definitely connected to Alfred Kinsey, because Alfred Kinsey, I think,
and I mean, he was probably a pretty smart guy
in some ways, but he was also himself homosexual, and
he probably went through, especially for the time period, he
went through a lot of if anybody knew he was homosexual,

(41:30):
he went through a lot of probably trauma. And then
he was inspired by none other than who inspires a
lot of people who have been traumatized or abused or whatever,
that is Aleister Crowley. And so here's a guy who
is attracted to Alistair Crowley, the drugs, the sex, the rituals,
the perception of power. We know Aleister Crowley was British intelligence,

(41:53):
among other things, and Alfred Kinsey's attracted to that. And
so the Rockefeller Foundation, very official suits, very official statements,
very you can trust. The Rockefellers went to a guy
who was an outcast, essentially sexually from society, a guy
who was attracted to very niche things like weird Alistair Crowley,

(42:16):
sex rituals, and said, we'll give you millions of dollars.
There's like tens of millions in the forties in today's money.
We'll give you tens of millions of dollars to study
the effects of sexuality on people, which I'm sure filtered
into the CIA's project Midnight Climax, where they watched they
just picked up people, put them on drugs, watch them

(42:37):
have sex with prostitutes. That's all part. That's the CIA,
that's all part of this too. And then they're able
to weaponize the research and what they get out of
that as part of the demoralization and destabilization processes. Plus
what Alfred Kinseye was involved in, and with Aleister Crowley
and the CIA and the Rockefeller the Nation were involved in,
is as I said, the exact same thing I mean,

(42:59):
quite literally, the same exact thing that we saw in
the twenties in Germany under Magnus Hirschfield's Institute of Sexual Science.
And now we find that present in the Tavistock Institute today,
where the Tavistock Institute, as I showed earlier, the Tavistock
Institute has for several years been I think, relatively publicly known,

(43:20):
but for people like us, we've known about it longer.
But a handful of years ago, back in twenty nineteen,
the Tavistock Institute. One of the governors working there quit
because they said, and along with a lot of parents,
they said that the kids that were there were being
essentially psychologically abused and quote fast tracked to gender transitions.

(43:41):
So it's the same exact thing no matter where you look,
whether it's in Germany or it's in the UK, or
it's in the US, it's the Rockefeller Foundation, the CIA,
it is these individual institutes or groups like with Magnus
Hirschfeld's Institute of Sexual Science, or now we have the
Tavistock Institute. And I'm wondering back to you, writer, I'm

(44:04):
wondering because I honestly have a little bit of a
difficult time figuring out how I feel about this. How
does this unfold historically? Like when the CIA or when
the Rockefeller Foundation, or when both when they discover something,
you know, like the power of trauma and inducing psychic
experiences or what we classify as parapsychology, or when you

(44:25):
find out that, you know, inducing trauma on a population
has this kind of effect, what do they do they
sell that information? Do they go directly to the media
and you know, and and through their agents and inject
certain things into the population. Is it done through Netflix nowadays? Like?
How does all of that unfold? I think you've got

(44:46):
a pretty good viewpoint on that. If you could maybe
help me, help me Iron the South.

Speaker 7 (44:51):
Do you remember Barack Obama talking about the conspiracy theory stuff?

Speaker 4 (44:59):
Oh? Yeah, for sure. Remember that. Remember that quote from
George Bush though, the statement he said, you got to
you gotta repeat things in my line of work to
kind of catapult the propaganda. You gotta repeat things over
and over again to catapult that propaganda.

Speaker 7 (45:13):
No, but I want to hear that. I definitely want
I done. It's for sure something that he would say.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Here's the video clip of it for audio listeners.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Here it is, if you've retired, you don't have anything
to worry about. The third time I've said that, I'd
probably say it three more times. See, in my line
of work, you got to keep repeating things over and
over and over again for the truth to sync in
the kind of catapult the propaganda.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
Weah, let's plat. That's great, it's great. One of the
minute George Bush clips that are similar to that.

Speaker 7 (45:48):
That's essentially exactly what psychic driving is. It's repeating the
same thing over and over and over and over again,
regardless if it's true, regardless if it's factual or not,
regardless if it's false. It doesn't matter what. Everything that
you want out there imprinted upon the psyche of everyone globally.

(46:13):
You just continue to say it, you continue to put
it up on the screen, you continue to talk about it,
and you drive that narrative home and until people believe it.
I mean, the best example of that is what happened
in the last five years. That's exactly what that was.
That was a giant long preparation time for us. And

(46:37):
they wouldn't have done it Ryan if they didn't think
that they could get away with it. Well, if they
thought that they were going to fail.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
And here's an example of what you're talking about. I'm
glad that you said that we can seamlessly. Seamlessly transition
into this article that I pulled up from the British
Medical Journal. This piece says opinion, but note that what
they're referencing are from actual people, psychologists and government officials
in the UK who work directly on COVID policy in

(47:08):
the UK and what they said. So the headline of
this British Medical Journal is the UK government's attempt to
frighten people into COVID protective behaviors was at odds with
its scientific advice. Oh, it's just an opinion piece, right.

Speaker 8 (47:20):
Well.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
Among the many revelations from recent leaked to UK government
WhatsApp messages published by The Daily Telegraph is the fact
that Matt Hancock, former Health Secretary, not an opinion, proposed
using fear in order to get the public to comply
with COVID restrictions. That's not an opinion, that's what he
actually said. In December twenty twenty, he wrote that quote,

(47:44):
we must frighten the pants off of everyone with the
new strain. That's a quote. And January twenty twenty one,
Hancock discussed how to increase levels of mass wearing and
worry that minor interventions would have little impact. The Secretary
of Simon Case replied, I think that is exactly right.
Small stuff looks ridiculous ramping up messaging. The fear and

(48:08):
guilt factor, or the fear guilt factor is vital. By
the way. On top of that, you might say, that's
just the UK, Well, how about the United States? How
about Yale University? Here's Yale University teaming up with I
believe it was a number of medical schools from what
was it university? I think that there was a University

(48:32):
of I thought it was New York, but maybe I'm
wrong about that. But this is the Yale University report.
Look at this. This is a great report persuasive messaging
to increase COVID vaccine uptake intentions. Here's the various different
groups involved. School of Nursing, Study of American Politics, Department

(48:53):
of Political Science, Yale University. And if you scroll down
you can find this wonderful list of ways in which
they intended to get you to take your medicine. They
included self interest messages, community messages, community interest in guilt messaging,

(49:13):
interest and embarrassment, community anger, like people are gonna be
mad at you if you don't do what everyone else
is doing. That was the messaging. You got to do
what's best for the community. What would you How would
you feel if your neighbor died or your grandma died
because you didn't get your shot. One of their messages
was you can read that writer trust in science quite literally.

(49:36):
Trust the science was a Yale University corporate medical talking point,
not based on science, but based on psychology. This included
personal freedom, economic freedom, and community economic benefits. We heard
all those arguments like, don't you want to go to
the movies again, Don't you want to go to the
games again, the sporting events, Don't you want to go

(49:59):
back to work and make money and pay your bills.
That was all part of a psychological operation ran through
Yale University to convince you to do something for a corporation.

Speaker 7 (50:10):
And that's you know, what's interest Ryan, What's interesting about
that is it seems like nobody actually wanted to do
any of that because all of those industries are failing.
The movie industry is failing, the restaurant business is failing.
There's been thousands of restaurants, big chain restaurants that I've
closed in the past year.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
That's the normalization process, though I think probably what you're saying,
that's like what Besmanov said. You normalize these you destabilize
to moralize, you create crisis. This was the crisis, and
then you normalize the results which were during COVID what
we what were we told over and over again? And
then the new normal. That's the new normal, the new

(50:51):
normalization process. And you're right, all those things are they're
changing dramatically because of what happened during the pandemic. And
it was all psychology, not based on medical science, but
based on brain science, based on the psychology of the mind.

Speaker 7 (51:10):
Well, we know what it was really based on, Ryan,
We can call it for what it is. It was
based on computer models, just like how everything is based
on computer models, global warming, computer models? How many times?
How can we know how many people are going to
die from this virus in the next five months? Of

(51:33):
all this stuff is yet, how do we figure that out?
Computer model? You guessed it, bro Like, completely ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Here's the Pfizer website confirming that Pfizer's novel prediction model
derived from machine learning. That's just one of many. You
can actually find the original response back to the accusations
of gain of function research, where they here's the Pfizer
response to gain function research claims, and if you scroll down,
it says that, hey, we don't do that. We don't

(52:02):
do that kind of research because most of this work
is conducted using computer simulations. It says that on their website.
It's unbelievable, right, it's Fizer dot com. You made that up,
No fives dot com. It says that it's computer models,
but you see all that stuff brighter. And then here's
another document. This is the Coup Arc Counterintelligence Interrogation document

(52:25):
from the CIA nineteen sixty three. It is released in
the nineteen nineties. And if you scroll down and you
look at the coercive of counterintelligence interrogation techniques, this is
the same kind of a thing that we saw during COVID.
It's the same type of techniques and for example, utilizing

(52:46):
threats and fear quite literally like they're using CIA interrogation
torture tactics on the general public, heightened suggestibility and hypnosis
as your nightly news, there's your social media. Yeah, just
a couple of examples, but that's all from the that's
from the CIA's the federal government's kup Bark counter intelligency
interrogation program, which of course we learned later that we

(53:10):
were quite literally torturing people to get information that led
to absolutely nothing. But that's a that's a whole nother show.
I wanted to before we're out of time, writer, talk
about these recruitment videos from this is from Fort Bragg.
The first article this is Army Times. This is back
in twenty twenty two the Ghost in the Machine Who's

(53:31):
pulling the Strings video, Then you have Ghosts in the
Machine two that was twenty twenty four, and then recently
this last week they've released a third video. It's another
fourth Psychological Operations group. This video says, we are everywhere

(53:52):
we can actually play these videos, but do you have
a comment on those fast before we play the videos?

Speaker 7 (53:57):
What is think that this new one is really interesting
because you can't find really the full video anywhere that's
the original Ghost in the Machine, But if you scroll
down a little bit, you would see that there's screenshots
from other videos, which leads me to believe that this
isn't a publicly a public thing because deception operations normally

(54:24):
go to people that are already in the military. They're
not going to take somebody off the street that just
signed up to be in the army and immediately put
them into a deception operation where they're deceiving and running
siops on people. They're just not going to do this.
Too much risk involved. So this one seems more like

(54:44):
something because it's not the entire video. The Ghost in
the Machine videos are like two to three minutes long videos.
This one with the new one is I think that
it has it's like twenty three seconds and it cuts
off a thirty even second. Sorry, and it cuts off
like as he's getting ready to say there's very little

(55:07):
things that the people think about when they think of
operations or whatever. And he was like, it's in its words.

Speaker 4 (55:18):
You're right. The third one is very short. I think
we can play about seven minutes total, roughly over all
all three of them. So play these comment and wrap
up the show tonight. Here's ghosts in the machine. Even
if you can't see this, you can hear it. If
your opponent is a choleric temper, seek to irritate him,

(55:39):
pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant sun suit.
His video is really creepy.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
Writer. Yeah, as the world watchers and listens and.

Speaker 9 (55:55):
Democracy demonstration in China comes to a violent and bloody
mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
The question is asked, who's pulling the strings wool branches
by whispering do or die? Born from the ashes of

(56:26):
the world at war, You'll find us in the shadows.

Speaker 7 (56:36):
Mhm.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
You say, the threat rises in the East waw warfare
is evolving and all the world's stage. Hey, what are

(57:07):
the most sought safety deception? We wage for.

Speaker 9 (57:09):
Another very important. It has as its target not the body,
but the mind of the enemy targets.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Psychological warfare, the elements mind.

Speaker 9 (57:23):
It is words and idea ammunition used by five war.
It's missioned as to influence the thoughts of the enemy
soldiers and at the same time is.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
Expected and encouraged to see the suade and the.

Speaker 9 (57:42):
Social sciences that just economics and sociology. You must have
a broad and sympathetic understanding of all faces of human experience.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Gripping at my skin, the walls of night closes.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
We come in many worms as an integral part of
combat has now taken on new for we are everywhere.

Speaker 10 (58:09):
H kah same a, a feeling in the dark, a

(58:29):
message in the stars, revolution.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
Brand, chess board, ghosts and the machine. Yeah, what are we?

(58:56):
We are sigh war. You get out of the at
a lot of color, revolutions and destabilizations of governments and
overthrowing of those same governments. If you have any thoughts
on that, real quick and we'll play the second video.
It's about three minutes, so we have to be quick
on time. But go ahead if you do but if.

Speaker 7 (59:13):
You realize that during that video, none of that was
us events. They were all events, international events, national events, right,
Because if we're it's okay, if we're doing it to
all these other people, Yeah, but to our own people.
We would never do this to our own country.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Never. I'm a little man and this is a little town.
There must be a spark little men that can burst
into flame. John Steinbeck. There are many people in the
world who really don't understand. Yeah, the most powerful weapon, hm.

(01:00:04):
But we have never had to put a wall up
to keep up in the hand of the oppressor.

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
Freedom is indivisible, is enslaved.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
All are not free.

Speaker 10 (01:00:19):
Yah yah h.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Not.

Speaker 9 (01:00:26):
It was become a struggle for men's minds as well
as for their body. They we face an enemy sends
enormous sums of money, and man.

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
Are all over the gold and.

Speaker 9 (01:00:39):
Thinking of the people of the free work conclus di
vibe and ultimately the subject. It is a contest unlike
any we have ever faced in our history as a nation,
contest for the minds and.

Speaker 10 (01:00:51):
The thoughts of people around the world.

Speaker 8 (01:00:56):
When power corrupts, poetry tends. We must never forget that
art is not a form of propaganda. It is a
form of.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Truth behind every idea.

Speaker 11 (01:01:14):
The control of emotions be gained by understanding the stimulus,
believe become associated with the private stimilized, partly by a process.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Conditional behind every choice.

Speaker 9 (01:01:35):
The doctor's photographed in this quotation sinuation of the.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
Lot invisible hands behind every emotion? Fire? Do you believe

(01:02:04):
in the power of words and ideas?

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Were a lot of and all serve.

Speaker 7 (01:02:26):
And the role from that fire?

Speaker 11 (01:02:30):
It's truly like the.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
World we believe.

Speaker 9 (01:02:38):
Yes, our military leaders are finding that words and ideas
are highly effective weapons.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Words and ideas are highly effective weapons. Will play a
very short clip of the last one here and then
finalize our comments. If this one will uh yeah, here
we go. This one will play.

Speaker 11 (01:03:00):
H yeah, okay, God dam army.

Speaker 10 (01:03:12):
H m hmmm.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Loudspeakers and pamphlets being dumped from planes or torn countries,
occupied counts.

Speaker 9 (01:03:30):
There's another force applied in combat, but we generally don't
think of as a weapon of war. Bad weapons.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Words words are anything we touch as a weapon way
and which to influence people.

Speaker 9 (01:03:46):
This is psychological warfare.

Speaker 7 (01:03:52):
M h.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
This is psychological warfare. All right. We have a very
short time left on the show right or your final
closing comments please.

Speaker 7 (01:04:05):
Well, did they just basically say that all of those
events for psychological operations?

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
That's the impression you get from all three videos. Yes,
the demoralization, the stabilization, the crisis is the normalization, the
overthrowing of governments, the undermining of regimes, the destabilization of
the global society. To move the chessboard and move the
pieces around into a position that you want them in,
it's all a psychological operation. That's the impression that you get.

Speaker 7 (01:04:35):
So I guess my question would be, if we are
doing that to all these other countries, who's doing that
to us?

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
That's a great question that's kind of explored in that
movie Leave the World Behind You. All these pamphlets reigning
down on the cities, and some are in Arabic, some
are in Korean, some are in different languages. We don't
know who our enemy is. We have no idea who
the enemy is. Could be in our own government.

Speaker 7 (01:05:04):
That's what it seems like, because with these videos, it
seems like that the military has taken responsibility for all
of these foreign events everywhere, Like they showed events from
everything in there, all over the place. Okay, so if
we if the military is taking responsibility for all of

(01:05:27):
those events being psychological operations, who is responsible for the
psychological operations that are happening inside of the United States?
And if it is our own government and it is
our military, which would be the correct way to look

(01:05:47):
at it. If we are responsible for it happening everywhere else,
why would we not be responsible for it happening on
our own turf? Then something is very clearly wrong. If
people watch this, If people watch this and say, oh, well,
it's okay that we did all this stuff to all
these other different countries, okay, and not look at it like,

(01:06:08):
did we do this to ourselves? Are we currently doing
this to ourselves inside of our own country? If you
watch that and you look at it as all, well,
it's okay that we did it everywhere else, it's fine.
It's justifiable that we took over We overthrew this other government,
We did all these other psychological operations, we took out
foreign leaders, we installed a new political government over there

(01:06:31):
and overseas in a completely different country. But whenever it
happens here, who's the blame when it happens here?

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
And it's very clearly happening and has been happening here
for a long time. It's probably a mixture foreign governments,
but it's also mostly our own, our own intelligence agencies,
that our own corporations. It's a blend of those operations
that are psychological mixed with political ideology, subversive ideologies. And
I guess it's the old adage when you play with fire,

(01:06:59):
you and to get burned. I think at the very least,
it's that we've played with fire and we're getting burned.
So who is like under the beast? There's a lot
of beasts. You make that decision the final conclusion for yourself.
Rider Lee, thank you for coming on the show tonight.
Rider Lee is the host of Race by Giants. He
has a number of documentaries very quickly. Where can listeners

(01:07:21):
find you?

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
You can find me on YouTube out Raised by Giants
on Facebook, Raised by a Giants, Instagram, Raised by a
Giants pod and X Raised by a Giant's eight and
watch my documentary as jfk X on Amazon Prime, Apple
TV Plus and to be and as well as a
Clockwork Shining on those exact same platforms, and be looking

(01:07:44):
forward to my latest documentary I'm currently working on that
should be submitted at the first of the year. Thanks
so much for having me on, Brother, really appreciate it.
Always an honor and a privilege being on here and
talking with you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Brother, you as well, right, and I appreciate the work
that you do. Thank you so much for coming on
the show tonight.
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